WEBVTT - Episode 8: The Political Shitstorm

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<v Speaker 1>Pushkin, previously on deep cover. FBI agent Ned Timmins finally

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<v Speaker 1>had his victorious moment. The kingpin of the drug smuggling operation,

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<v Speaker 1>Lee Rich aka Mister Beach Club, was nabbed at the

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<v Speaker 1>airport in Jamaica, and then the authorities arrested Mike Vogel,

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<v Speaker 1>the grocery guy in Michigan. We had the whole swat

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<v Speaker 1>team out there lands place all night long waiting for

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<v Speaker 1>word that they had Lee and custody. And once we

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<v Speaker 1>got word, then we had Vogel's house, and Stephen Kaylish,

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<v Speaker 1>the smooth talking gentleman smuggler who'd gotten cozy with General

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<v Speaker 1>Noriega down in Panama, was also behind bars. If you recall,

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen had an escape plan in place. He had a

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<v Speaker 1>group of mercenaries forces guys that he kept on retainer

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<v Speaker 1>for this very purpose. I had a serious escape plan, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I had one before I ever got arrested. A friend

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<v Speaker 1>of mine's brother ran a special Forces team. I put

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<v Speaker 1>him on one hundred thousand dollars retainer to come and

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<v Speaker 1>rescue me no matter where I was. But the Special

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<v Speaker 1>Forces guys told him there was a catch. They could

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<v Speaker 1>break him out, but in the process someone might get killed.

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<v Speaker 1>This was a problem because the gentleman's smuggler was a

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<v Speaker 1>declared pacifist. So what to do? Lee Rich and his partner,

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen Kaylish decided to fight the charges against them, so

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<v Speaker 1>they were prosecuted together down in Tampa. The trial began

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<v Speaker 1>in February of nineteen eighty seven. In his opening arguments,

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<v Speaker 1>the assistant US attorney at the time, Robert Kennedy, described

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<v Speaker 1>Lee Rich as the classic kingpin, living in a fancy

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<v Speaker 1>house in the Caymans, throwing lavish parties, flying around in

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<v Speaker 1>his lear jet, and raking in millions. And he depicted

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen Kaylish as the field general quote, a leader who

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<v Speaker 1>inspired other people to work for him and work for

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<v Speaker 1>him very efficiently. Quote. As the prosecution started making its case,

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen wasn't hopeful. We've been in tramper about six weeks

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<v Speaker 1>and they've been about fifty or sixty witnesses, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was a joke because we were cooked. The prosecutors had

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<v Speaker 1>an army of witnesses, truck drivers, pilots, boat captains, radio operators,

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<v Speaker 1>and even the bail throwers who had unloaded the drugs.

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<v Speaker 1>Mountains of incriminating evidence started piling up. Stephen claims that

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<v Speaker 1>at some point he began encouraging people to testify against

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<v Speaker 1>him to save themselves, and turns out Stephen was making

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<v Speaker 1>plans of his own. One day, a few weeks into

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<v Speaker 1>the trial, Lee says that his partner in crime, the

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<v Speaker 1>gentleman smuggler, kind of vanished. They had moved him out

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<v Speaker 1>of the cell the night before, afraid, you know, somebody's

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<v Speaker 1>going to stick him. So my lawyer says, yeah, he

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<v Speaker 1>rolled Lee. He's become an informant. When your lawyer says

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<v Speaker 1>that you, what's your reaction. Well, I wasn't happy. I

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<v Speaker 1>can tell you that I was thinking that that's a

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<v Speaker 1>real dirt bag. I know he's saving his ass, but

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<v Speaker 1>I was looking at life in prison, no parole, and

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<v Speaker 1>so was he. Lee claims he would never have done this.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd never testified in a courtroom against anybody ever, never will.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not in my blood to turn in people and

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<v Speaker 1>never will be. Stephen remembers this all differently in his

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<v Speaker 1>telling of events. He doesn't just disappear one day during

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<v Speaker 1>the trial. Instead, he was candid with Lee and told

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<v Speaker 1>him exactly what he intended to do. I said, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>the only one that holds any cards here, and those

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<v Speaker 1>cards in Noriega. In my relationship with Noriega, I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to sit through this trial any longer.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, Stephen had been talking with prosecutors for months

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<v Speaker 1>sussing out the possibility of a deal because Stephen thought

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<v Speaker 1>he might have a get out of jail free card.

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<v Speaker 1>I just knew that the information that I could divulge

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<v Speaker 1>about Noriega and his activities were a bombshell. There's no

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<v Speaker 1>doubt in my mind that there's ramifications. They go all

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<v Speaker 1>the way to the top. I mean literally from Reagan

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<v Speaker 1>on down. I'm Jake Halbern and this is Deep Cover,

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<v Speaker 1>Episode eight, the Political shit Storm. Stephen Kaylish was a

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<v Speaker 1>man who always had a backup plan. Long before he

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<v Speaker 1>was ever arrested. He had hired those Special Forces guys

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<v Speaker 1>to break him out if need be, But in the end,

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<v Speaker 1>he couldn't stomach the possibility that someone might die. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>well that's a deal breaker. I said, I've never harmed

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<v Speaker 1>anybody in my life. I'm not going to do it now.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, if they can't get me out of here

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<v Speaker 1>without somebody being hurt, then I'll figure out another way.

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<v Speaker 1>And it turns out he did another way, or so

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<v Speaker 1>he thought, and it involved his friend, General Noriega. General

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<v Speaker 1>Noriega had always been Steven's ace in the hole. When

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen was a fugitive living in Panama, Noriega gave him

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<v Speaker 1>a safe haven, a way to launder his money, a

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<v Speaker 1>way to keep smuggling drugs. And now once again, Stephen's

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<v Speaker 1>relationship with Noriega might come in handy. I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>how it was going to work out. I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>if they would drop charges. I had no idea how

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<v Speaker 1>everything was going to play out. By going public with

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<v Speaker 1>his story, Stephen understood he might make some enemies. He

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<v Speaker 1>knew that Noriega had allies in Washington, DC, people who

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<v Speaker 1>might not want this getting out. I mean a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of trepidation, you know, I have to be really careful

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<v Speaker 1>about you know, who I disclosed, as to how it's disclosed,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's going to become public. So it's very very

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<v Speaker 1>secret and very concerning. Stephen wouldn't be the first person

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<v Speaker 1>to offer up dirt on Noriega. The famous investigative journalist

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<v Speaker 1>Seymour Hirsch had written a front page article in the

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<v Speaker 1>New York Times about Noriega about eight months before the trial.

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<v Speaker 1>It was damning. Hirsh wrote that Noriega was involved in

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<v Speaker 1>money laundering and that he was quote a secret partner

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<v Speaker 1>end quote in a drug smuggling business. The article seemed

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<v Speaker 1>to be describing Noriega's arrangement with Stephen Kaylish exactly, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was all pretty vague. Hirsch relied entirely on anonymous

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<v Speaker 1>sources in theory Stephen could change all of that. He

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<v Speaker 1>could give these allegations a name and a face and

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<v Speaker 1>a storyline. So at least six months before he went

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<v Speaker 1>on trial down in Tampa with Lee Rich, Stephen had

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<v Speaker 1>already been gone to talk with prosecutors, hinting at what

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<v Speaker 1>he knew that one of America's top allies was actually

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<v Speaker 1>a drug trafficker. One prosecutor in particular took a keen interest.

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<v Speaker 1>Doug McCullough. McCullough was the first US attorney for the

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<v Speaker 1>Eastern District of North Carolina. He had his own case

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<v Speaker 1>against Stephen. Remember that ghost ship from episode four, the

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<v Speaker 1>one that gets abandoned in the harbor with all the

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<v Speaker 1>marijuana in it. Doug was working on that case. He'd

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<v Speaker 1>been in touch with Stephen's lawyers and had gotten word

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<v Speaker 1>that Stephen had secrets to tell that went far beyond

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<v Speaker 1>the ghost Ship. Well, I knew Kaylish had this evidence

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<v Speaker 1>that would implicate Noriega and money laundron. His lawyers had

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<v Speaker 1>told us that in what's called a proffer, But I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to hear it from Kaylish's own mouth and see

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<v Speaker 1>what kind of person he was. So Doug arranges for

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen to travel up to North Carolina. Well, they put

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<v Speaker 1>me in some shitty gel I mean it just typical

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<v Speaker 1>red and at shit home. And then Doug takes me

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<v Speaker 1>back to his officers, right, and he goes, well, we

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<v Speaker 1>want to take you to secure location and sit down

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<v Speaker 1>with the INDEP review. Stephen knew what Doug wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about. The question was what did Doug want to

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<v Speaker 1>do with it? This information was currency, and one way

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<v Speaker 1>or another, Stephen wanted to profit from it. Either way.

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<v Speaker 1>If they want me to talk, I want something for it.

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<v Speaker 1>If they want me to shut up, I want something

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<v Speaker 1>for it. I don't give a shit. They it's their call,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not my call. Well, I'm just going to tell

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<v Speaker 1>the story and then let the cards fall the way

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<v Speaker 1>however they fall. So they all get out to Camp Lejeerne,

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<v Speaker 1>the big Marine Corps base in North Carolina. Doug McCullough,

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<v Speaker 1>the prosecutor, his team, along with Stephen and his defense lawyers.

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<v Speaker 1>Doug has arranged for two trailers, one for the prosecution

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<v Speaker 1>and one for the defense team. Stephen remembers the Marine

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<v Speaker 1>Guards were stationed all over with their M sixteens. Everyone

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<v Speaker 1>piles into one of the trailers and Stephen starts telling

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<v Speaker 1>his story high detail, my smuckling operations, obviously in North Carolina,

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<v Speaker 1>which is one of the things that concerned him. But

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<v Speaker 1>it leaked all up to me getting to Panamall, and

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<v Speaker 1>then about me going to Panamall and me paying off Noriega,

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<v Speaker 1>and then me buying helicopters and jets for Noriega. Doug's

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<v Speaker 1>basically almost shell shocked. I mean, he's visibly shaken by

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<v Speaker 1>it all. Doug wasn't naive he understood that a guy

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<v Speaker 1>like Noriega might be corrupt. What blew him away was Stephen.

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<v Speaker 1>Here was a runaway kid from Texas who become a

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<v Speaker 1>drug tycoon and was apparently Noriega's business partner. And he

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<v Speaker 1>had evidence. He had airplane logs that showed on his

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<v Speaker 1>private jet him flying Noriega around. These logs show that

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<v Speaker 1>Noriega used Stephen's plane during a trip to the United States,

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<v Speaker 1>and this trip it was a big deal. Noriega went

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<v Speaker 1>to d C. I met with the Secretary of Defense

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<v Speaker 1>and then the director of the CIA. There's a celebratory

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<v Speaker 1>lunch for him at the Pentagon. It's pretty much a

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<v Speaker 1>hero's welcome. So yeah, Stephen's evidence would make a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people look very bad. The debriefing session goes on

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<v Speaker 1>and on until finally Stephen says, okay, guys, I've talked

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<v Speaker 1>for five or six hours. I said, now it's my turn.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to see my wife. Are you all satisfied?

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen's wife was actually waiting to meet with him. That

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<v Speaker 1>was part of the deal that Stephen says he worked

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<v Speaker 1>out with Doug ahead of time. Ever, the gentleman smuggler,

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen had asked for some very gentlemanly terms. He wanted dinner,

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<v Speaker 1>and he wanted a trailer overlooking the Atlantic. And I said, okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're satisfied, I want my wife and I have

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<v Speaker 1>several hours together. And Duck goes more than satisfied. They

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<v Speaker 1>brought me a nice steak dinner and beautiful meal. I

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<v Speaker 1>think a bottle of champagne, and my wife made love

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of times. After I finished with my wife,

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<v Speaker 1>Duck comes in and he goes, We're going to Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>d C. Because I've been ordered by my boss that

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<v Speaker 1>they won't you at Main Justice in Marshington, d C.

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<v Speaker 1>For deep briefing. A few days later, they all fly

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<v Speaker 1>up to DC together to the headquarters of the Department

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<v Speaker 1>of Justice. According to Stephen, they go to a big

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<v Speaker 1>conference room and meet with a whole host of officials,

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<v Speaker 1>and once again Stephen tells his story. When it's all over,

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<v Speaker 1>they basically just thank him for his time. Seemed like

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<v Speaker 1>a dead end, but toward the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>Doug McCullough remembers an assistant Attorney General pulling him aside

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<v Speaker 1>and saying, all of this information has been passed up

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<v Speaker 1>to the National Security Council, so apparently people were taking notice.

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<v Speaker 1>For all of his efforts, Stephen gets pretty much zilch.

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<v Speaker 1>No one gives him a get out of jail free

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<v Speaker 1>card or really anything close to it. So in February

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<v Speaker 1>of nineteen eighty seven, Stephen goes on trial in Tampa

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<v Speaker 1>alongside his old partner Lee Rich. For a few weeks

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<v Speaker 1>they're fighting it out together, but by mid March, Stephen

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<v Speaker 1>says he sees the writing on the wall. There's no

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<v Speaker 1>winning this case. So he reaches a deal with prosecutors.

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<v Speaker 1>As they say in the business, he joins Team USA

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<v Speaker 1>and agrees to testify for the government. In return, he

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<v Speaker 1>gets well less than he hoped for. He's promised a

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<v Speaker 1>jail sentence of no more than twenty years. Meanwhile, Lee

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<v Speaker 1>Rich keeps defending himself at trial, but in the end

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<v Speaker 1>he loses. He's found guilty of running a continuing criminal enterprise.

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<v Speaker 1>His sentencing hearing was brutal. The prosecutor said, good old

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<v Speaker 1>mister Beach Club had quote no redeeming social value end quote.

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<v Speaker 1>He was sentenced to thirty years. So it seemed like

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<v Speaker 1>Steven's big move and the whole story of the General

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<v Speaker 1>went pretty much nowhere, a big dud. But that wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>the case. By peddling his story around in DC and elsewhere,

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<v Speaker 1>he'd gotten people talking and started something much much bigger

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<v Speaker 1>than he ever imagined. More on that after the break,

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<v Speaker 1>so Stephen's story was slowly making its way through the

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<v Speaker 1>grape vine in Washington, d C. And it turns out

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<v Speaker 1>totally independent of this, another investigator named Jack Blum was

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<v Speaker 1>also taking a closer look at Noriega. Jack was special

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<v Speaker 1>counsel for the Senate Form Relations Committee under John Carey,

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<v Speaker 1>and Jack, like everybody else, had heard the rumors and

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<v Speaker 1>read the article in the New York Times about Noriega

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<v Speaker 1>and his alleged drug trafficking. To Jack, it was intriguing,

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<v Speaker 1>but not an open and shut case. I didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>a smoking gun the time, certainly didn't have a smoking gun,

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<v Speaker 1>but there was enough there. So glad anybody who really

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to know could find out a lot more. Jack

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<v Speaker 1>was interested not just in Noriega, but in all the

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<v Speaker 1>particulars of how drugs were being smuggled and how money

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<v Speaker 1>was being laundered, and so in the mid eighties this

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<v Speaker 1>became Jack Blum's mission. But he was not just some

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<v Speaker 1>policy walk sitting in some room with his whiteboard. Jack

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<v Speaker 1>was more like, well, a detective. I went to visit

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<v Speaker 1>these people in jail, spending time talking to them. So

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<v Speaker 1>I actually became quite a visitor to the federal prison system.

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<v Speaker 1>And of all the people that he interviewed. One in

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<v Speaker 1>particular still stands out to this day. I remember, particularly

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<v Speaker 1>Lee Rich. The words that come to mind are clean cut,

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<v Speaker 1>nice guy. I could go out drinking with them, I

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<v Speaker 1>could have him as a business partner. One of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that came clear was how normal and routine and

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<v Speaker 1>pleasant some of these five star criminals turned out to be.

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<v Speaker 1>And Lee starts to tell his story all about how

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<v Speaker 1>he smuggled his drugs and how he laundered his money

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<v Speaker 1>with the help of the General Manuel Noriega. It was

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<v Speaker 1>quite a revelation. People were talking about Noriego was in

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<v Speaker 1>charge of everything in Panama and he was our guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Well you heard this, and it was like, wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not our guy. It was one thing to have

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<v Speaker 1>a newspaper article with a bunch of unnamed sources, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was another thing entirely to have a guy like

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<v Speaker 1>mister Beach Club who could verify it all and say basically, yeah, General,

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<v Speaker 1>Mammo Noriega, he was our business partner, and here exactly

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<v Speaker 1>is how he helped us launder our money. The further

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<v Speaker 1>into this mess that I got more apparent, it became

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<v Speaker 1>that it was a very tangled mess. You start looking

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<v Speaker 1>at the awards that were given to Noriego. There are

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<v Speaker 1>photographs of the top man in the giving plaques to

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<v Speaker 1>Noriega in Panama, congratulating him for sustain various busts. Jack

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<v Speaker 1>began to piece it all together what exactly Noriega had

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<v Speaker 1>been doing. He'd been cooperating with the US War on

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<v Speaker 1>Drugs kind of Basically, Noriego would apprehend some drug smugglers,

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<v Speaker 1>but he was being very selective about which bad guys

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<v Speaker 1>he went after, namely the guys who didn't use his

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<v Speaker 1>money laundering services. Those guys they got busted. All the while,

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<v Speaker 1>Noriego is providing valuable info to the CIA, because well,

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<v Speaker 1>he did know all kinds of things. Noriego's talking to

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<v Speaker 1>Fidel Castro, Noriego's relating to all of the heads of

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<v Speaker 1>state and the characters who were all over Central America

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<v Speaker 1>one way or another. He's got his hands in every pie. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, the stupidity of it is he's really working

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<v Speaker 1>for himself. The more that Jack looked into who Noriega

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<v Speaker 1>was and how he operated, the more troubling it became.

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<v Speaker 1>At one point, Jack interviewed one of Noriega's pilots, who

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<v Speaker 1>detailed the murder of Hugo Spataphora. Spataphora was a prominent

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<v Speaker 1>doctor and revolutionary who'd criticized Noriega for his involvement in

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<v Speaker 1>the drug trade, and he paid for it. In nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>eighty five, some Panamanian soldiers abducted him, and his decapitated

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<v Speaker 1>body was later found in a ravine. The notion of

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<v Speaker 1>torturing and beheading his opponent and doing it the way

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<v Speaker 1>he did it, this man is really evil from top

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<v Speaker 1>to bottom. Up until now, Jack says, Noriega's bad behavior

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<v Speaker 1>had been tolerated because he was so helpful to agencies

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<v Speaker 1>like the CIA. I actually found an internal CIA document

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<v Speaker 1>from the time marked secret that's since been declassified. It said, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>we have no smoking gun on Noriega, but he is

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<v Speaker 1>closely associated with some connected to the drug trade. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they had an inkling. So the CIA had its agenda

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<v Speaker 1>for Panama. They were interested in their mission and nothing else.

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<v Speaker 1>And their response, if you ask why are you doing

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<v Speaker 1>business with all these terrible characters was pretty simple. Terrible

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<v Speaker 1>characters or are stock and trade. It's the criminals who

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<v Speaker 1>know how to get around the law and get around

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<v Speaker 1>all of the systems and who can help us do

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<v Speaker 1>our job. It was kind of like what Ned Timmins

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<v Speaker 1>had told me from the very beginning. If you wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to get intel on the bad guys, well, then you

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<v Speaker 1>also had to play with the bad guys. For Jack Blum,

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<v Speaker 1>the only way to blow all of this open was

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<v Speaker 1>to hold congressional hearings and use guys like mister Beach

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<v Speaker 1>Club to go public and make some headlines. More on that.

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<v Speaker 1>After the break In early nineteen eighty eight, about a

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<v Speaker 1>year after they'd gone on trial down in Tampa, Lee

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<v Speaker 1>Rich and Stephen Kaylish went public with their story about Noriega,

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<v Speaker 1>and they did so in the biggest possible way. In Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>d C. Before the Senate in front of live TV cameras.

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<v Speaker 1>The US Congress today heard about a strange partnership between

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<v Speaker 1>Panama's military rule, Manuel Noriega, and a convicted American drug dealer.

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<v Speaker 1>At this point, many senators were interested in the subject

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<v Speaker 1>of narco trafficking in general. There were multiple sets of hearings.

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<v Speaker 1>Jack Blum organized one of them. Altogether. They created a specticle.

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<v Speaker 1>A parade of former criminals showed up to tell their stories.

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen and Lee hope that by talking publicly, they'd get

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<v Speaker 1>their jail sentences reduced. On TV, Stephen is super clean cut,

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<v Speaker 1>perfectly combed hair, huge black grim classes a dark suit.

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<v Speaker 1>He looks like he could be a stockbroker on his

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<v Speaker 1>lunch break, and he's telling a story, but he's reading it,

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<v Speaker 1>checking his script constantly, not nervously, just like he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to get a single detail wrong. In his testimony,

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen explains how exactly he'd become friends with the General.

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<v Speaker 1>I was taken to General Noriega's private home. I had

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<v Speaker 1>been instructed bring a gift for the General large enough

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<v Speaker 1>to show how serious I was about doing business in Panama.

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<v Speaker 1>I placed three hundred thousand dollars cares in my briefcase.

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<v Speaker 1>The briefcase stuff with cash would become an icon for

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<v Speaker 1>this scandal that unfolded, kind of like Monica Lewinsky's dress

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<v Speaker 1>or Richard Nixon's White House tapes. It was a singular

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<v Speaker 1>image that people could picture and that told the whole story.

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<v Speaker 1>Here was the head of state hosting a drug dealer

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<v Speaker 1>in his house and accepting a briefcase stuffed with bills.

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<v Speaker 1>A few months later, at a separate set of hearings.

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<v Speaker 1>Lee Rich, mister Beach Club, also testified. He backed up

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen Kaylish's account, corroborating the now famous story of the

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred thousand dollars in the briefcase Mike Vogel, the

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<v Speaker 1>Detroit grocery guy. He testified two. In the time between

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen Kaylish and Lee Rich's testimonies, there was big news.

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<v Speaker 1>The US Justice Department was going after Noriega, the military

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<v Speaker 1>leader of Panama, General Manuel Noriega, was indited today on

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<v Speaker 1>charges of drug smuggling and racketeering. In all of US history,

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<v Speaker 1>this was only the time that the Justice Department had

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<v Speaker 1>indicted the head of a foreign nation. Only problem was,

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<v Speaker 1>Noriega was still safely situated in Panama, very much in control.

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<v Speaker 1>The indictment only created more controversy. The legendary Congressman Charles

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<v Speaker 1>Wrangel accused the Reagan administration of quote, a full blown

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<v Speaker 1>cover up of the facts end quote. At last, the

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<v Speaker 1>political shit storm had arrived. Noriega didn't just stand by

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<v Speaker 1>and watch all of this silently. In the press, he

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<v Speaker 1>defended himself. He said that the US was really just

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<v Speaker 1>interested in getting rid of him so it could keep

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<v Speaker 1>control over the Panama Canal beyond nineteen ninety nine when

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<v Speaker 1>the US was supposed to be out of there. Noriega

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<v Speaker 1>actually did an interview with Mike Wallace of CBS to

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<v Speaker 1>make his case. As you know, general, the American people

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<v Speaker 1>are being told at this moment, but Monde Noriega is

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<v Speaker 1>a criminal, a drug dealer, He is an arms dealer,

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<v Speaker 1>He is a money launderer. Question why Noriega and why now?

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<v Speaker 1>But precisely in the interview, Noriega said, essentially, look, all

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<v Speaker 1>of this is political conspiracy. This is retribution because I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't do the US's dirty work in Nicaragua and help

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<v Speaker 1>the contrast. During the sixty minutes interview, Wallace asked about

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen Kaylish. You know Stephen Michael Kaylish a kive Banama here, Banama.

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<v Speaker 1>Many people come by when you work in my profession,

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<v Speaker 1>and also as a politician, you see a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 1>not that you know them. I would know Kaylish if

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<v Speaker 1>he gave me three hundred thousand dollars. And he said

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<v Speaker 1>that the first time he met you, he left a

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<v Speaker 1>bag behind the three hundred thousand dollars inside. And he

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<v Speaker 1>also said that you were a full scale co conspirator

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<v Speaker 1>in his drug operation that he paid you eventually millions.

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<v Speaker 1>You were talking about two gunvicts. That's say they both

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<v Speaker 1>gave money. If that doesn't invalidate it, the money for

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<v Speaker 1>what does? This was a big part of Noriega's defense.

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen Kalish is a convict. You can't believe a word

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<v Speaker 1>he says. Look, some of Noriega's critiques were legit, like

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that the US messed around in small countries

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<v Speaker 1>in order to advance its own sketchy interests. Yeah, fair enough.

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<v Speaker 1>But when it came to the drug and money laundering charges,

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<v Speaker 1>the evidence against Noriega was pretty damning. The real question

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<v Speaker 1>on a lot of people's minds was how could the

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<v Speaker 1>US allow this? How could it buddy up with a

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<v Speaker 1>drug trafficker like Noriega because our intelligence services knew what

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<v Speaker 1>he was up to. Two years before the congressional hearings,

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<v Speaker 1>John Poindexter, the National Security Advisor at the time, went

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<v Speaker 1>to Panama. According to The New York Times, he told

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<v Speaker 1>Noriega to quote cut it out. So, Yeah, people knew.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, as far back as the early nineteen seventies,

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<v Speaker 1>US officials were in the know. They'd heard the allegations

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<v Speaker 1>of Noriega's involvement in the drug trade, and this evidence

0:27:20.836 --> 0:27:23.516
<v Speaker 1>was actually passed along to the US Senate at the

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<v Speaker 1>time when it was negotiating a new treaty with Panama.

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<v Speaker 1>But for years and years, the US had opted to

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<v Speaker 1>do very little about this, not anymore, not after the

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<v Speaker 1>story of the Gentleman's Smuggler and his briefcase. That was it.

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<v Speaker 1>While all of this is going on, the congressional hearings,

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<v Speaker 1>the indictment against Noriega, the growing scandal, Ned Timmins was

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<v Speaker 1>back in Detroit. No one had asked him to testify

0:27:57.596 --> 0:28:00.836
<v Speaker 1>before Congress. Apparently he was just another cog in the

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<v Speaker 1>machine that had helped bring all of this to light.

0:28:04.316 --> 0:28:07.196
<v Speaker 1>But Ned was still plenty busy at work thanks to

0:28:07.236 --> 0:28:09.636
<v Speaker 1>his time on the Lee Rich case. Ned had all

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of contacts in the drug world. One of them

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<v Speaker 1>was a beautiful young woman from Columbia who knew things.

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<v Speaker 1>She was connected with the biggest people in the cartels

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<v Speaker 1>and talked a good game. She knew what she was

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<v Speaker 1>talking about, She knew the right names. These are the

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<v Speaker 1>people that would have supplied the drugs to Likely Rich.

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<v Speaker 1>They are the people that controlled everything on the Earth

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<v Speaker 1>coast to Columbia. It seemed like this could be the

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<v Speaker 1>final piece in the puzzle. After all, Ned and the

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<v Speaker 1>FBI had busted the distributor with the big warehouse in Detroit,

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<v Speaker 1>They'd gotten the master smuggler with his armada of ships.

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<v Speaker 1>They'd gotten the kingpin from his safe haven, and the Caymans,

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<v Speaker 1>even the money launderer Noriega had been indicted, and now

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<v Speaker 1>Ned had a shot at the source. Next time on

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<v Speaker 1>deep Cover, our final episode in the series, A real

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<v Speaker 1>reckoning for Ned with his marriage Anne with the FBI.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, she was a strikingly beautiful woman and now

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<v Speaker 1>she's sitting here with no husband. She's got no other

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<v Speaker 1>connections besides Ned. Not a good situation to have your

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<v Speaker 1>husband involved in. I mean, you can almost predict trouble.

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<v Speaker 1>Deep Cover is produced by Jacob Smith and edited by

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<v Speaker 1>Karen Schakerjee. Our story editor is Jack hit Original music

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<v Speaker 1>and our theme was composed by Luis Gara and Flawn

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<v Speaker 1>Williams is our engine year fact checking by Amy Gaines.

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<v Speaker 1>Mia Lobell is Pushkin's executive producer. Ned's novel is read

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<v Speaker 1>by Walton Goggins. Special thanks to Julia Barton, Heather Fame,

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<v Speaker 1>Carly mcgliori, Lee to Mullad, Maya Kanig, Eric Sandler, Maggie Taylor,

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<v Speaker 1>Special thanks also to Jeff Singer at Stowaway Entertainment. Additional

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<v Speaker 1>thanks to John Dingis, who wrote Our Man in Panama,

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<v Speaker 1>A meticulously researched, an excellent book. I'm Amuel Noriega. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Jake Halbern