WEBVTT - My Body is Made of Glass

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind from how Stuff

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<v Speaker 1>Works dot com. Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Robert Lamb and I'm Joe McCormick. And

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<v Speaker 1>we're a little late getting into the recording studio today

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<v Speaker 1>because we just had in an office wide meeting with

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<v Speaker 1>cheap How Stuff Work legal consultant Richard W. Glazer. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Great guy, excellent lawyer. But anytime we have these in

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<v Speaker 1>person meetings with him, it's always a little bit te. Well. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>part of the problem is that you can't approach him physically,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you do, he will immediately start wheeling away

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<v Speaker 1>because he cannot be touched, right, and he's not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>find a wheelchair or anything. He is. He just remains

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<v Speaker 1>on a wheeled platform that's covered with throw pillows and

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<v Speaker 1>stuff with with hay. Yeah, it's basically a wooden palette

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<v Speaker 1>with with little roll the office chair wheels on the bottom.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, And I mean you need that when you

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<v Speaker 1>suffer from the glass delusion. That's right, because there's nothing

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<v Speaker 1>actually wrong with him that he doesn't suffer from brittle

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<v Speaker 1>bone disorder anything of that matter. He's the guy from Unbreakable.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not the villain from Unbreakable. He's just he just

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<v Speaker 1>has this psychiatric delusion that his body is made out

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<v Speaker 1>of glass, which makes it all the more horrifying when

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<v Speaker 1>you roll through a pont city market here because everything's

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<v Speaker 1>under construction, Right, He's constantly afraid that the construction workers

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<v Speaker 1>on site are going to grab him and turn him

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<v Speaker 1>into a glass window. Yeah, but the meeting is over,

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<v Speaker 1>the meeting is done with glass or has rolled off

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<v Speaker 1>back to his the padded chamber of his offices, And

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<v Speaker 1>we're here to talk about glass delusion itself, the real

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<v Speaker 1>glass delusion that is largely a product of the past,

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<v Speaker 1>but as we'll discuss, has popped up with some contemporary

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<v Speaker 1>cases as well. Right, so you're not likely to meet

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<v Speaker 1>or have met somebody suffering from the glass delusion, but

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<v Speaker 1>there are times and places in history where this was

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<v Speaker 1>an extremely common psychological ailment. Yes, they're certainly common enough

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<v Speaker 1>that it pops up in the literature and well, as

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<v Speaker 1>we discussed that, uh, that raises some questions at times.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's let's start by just looking to the literature

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<v Speaker 1>and looking at some of the key cases that pop

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<v Speaker 1>up in history, and then we'll start teasing us a

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<v Speaker 1>part of it, sure well. One early case that we

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<v Speaker 1>have in the literature is the story of King Charles

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<v Speaker 1>the sixth of France. So Charles the sixth had a

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<v Speaker 1>sort of troubled reign. He inherited the throne of France

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<v Speaker 1>when he was eleven years old. He didn't immediately get

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<v Speaker 1>to wield power because some of his older relatives were

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<v Speaker 1>sort of ruling as regions for him. Eventually he came

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<v Speaker 1>of age and sort of took the throne in actual practice.

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<v Speaker 1>But Charles suffered from mental illness throughout his life, and

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<v Speaker 1>some of his episodes are described as basically paranoid in nature.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the earliest in our histories is that Charles

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<v Speaker 1>was out on a minor military campaign with a group

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<v Speaker 1>of knights and soldiers going out to I think fight

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<v Speaker 1>some near do well duke and a stranger approached the

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<v Speaker 1>procession that Charles was in and warned him that he

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<v Speaker 1>was going to suffer a great betrayal. And after this warning,

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<v Speaker 1>one of Charles's soldiers happened to make the mistake of

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<v Speaker 1>making a metal clanking noise with his helmet or armor,

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<v Speaker 1>and Charles freaked out. He started attacking his own men,

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<v Speaker 1>and he allegedly killed one of his own nights in

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<v Speaker 1>the ensuing confusion. But this is not the most topically

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<v Speaker 1>relevant of Charles's delusions because, according to accounts recorded by

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<v Speaker 1>Pope Pious, the second, one of the other common delusions

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<v Speaker 1>that Charles would suffer from was the belief that his

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<v Speaker 1>body was made of glass, and so he during these

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<v Speaker 1>times he allegedly refused to let people touch him, and

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<v Speaker 1>he would sort of like sit still and try to

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<v Speaker 1>cushion and protect himself from being shattered. He even demanded

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<v Speaker 1>some form of reinforce clothing is a sort of like

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<v Speaker 1>armor to protect his fragile body. Huh. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's fascinating to to think of this in connection

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<v Speaker 1>with his his place in life, you know, ascending to

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<v Speaker 1>the throne so early. Um, you know, even if he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have even if his power was more symbolic early on. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>because it will we'll discuss the two things that keep

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<v Speaker 1>coming up with with the glass delusion is that of

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<v Speaker 1>the body is a vessel, breakable vessel and uh and

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<v Speaker 1>and fragility and uh and the impermanence of life. Because

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<v Speaker 1>here's a guy who you know, he's he's essentially a

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<v Speaker 1>vessel for blood, right he has. It's his blood that

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<v Speaker 1>has the claim to the throne, and he is just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of the the fragile container for that blood and

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<v Speaker 1>for that that right to rule. And uh and he

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<v Speaker 1>and he's probably throughout his life he has you know,

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<v Speaker 1>has a very clear view of just how um, how

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<v Speaker 1>slight that grasp of power and that position really is. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's got to be, especially the case when you are

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<v Speaker 1>a child king, Like if you inherit the throne at

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<v Speaker 1>a very early age, it's quite clear that you are

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<v Speaker 1>not capable of ruling yet, and that is made clear

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<v Speaker 1>to you by the fact that there are some older

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<v Speaker 1>regions actually pulling all the strings. Um. So it's not

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<v Speaker 1>really your merit that you can believe makes you king.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, not that merit makes any king king. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're definitely just waiting your turn because of who your

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<v Speaker 1>parents were. Yeah. And it seems like the common tropes

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<v Speaker 1>that you see in in historical accounts and reenactments and

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<v Speaker 1>of course in our fiction, is you either you're going

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<v Speaker 1>at fragile direction. I'm who I'm this glass thing. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just this child at the center of this huge wheel

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<v Speaker 1>that's turning or you go in the megalomaniac direction of like,

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<v Speaker 1>of course I'm in charge. I know on eleven, but

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<v Speaker 1>I know everything and I'm fully, fully capable of ruling

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<v Speaker 1>this kingdom right now. That's not the not the only

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<v Speaker 1>case we see in history, but that again, that was

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<v Speaker 1>that's the earliest glass delusion case on record that we

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<v Speaker 1>could find. Also, there's a sixteen fourteen case, So this

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<v Speaker 1>is some of the centuries later recorded by the physician

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<v Speaker 1>to fill up the second of Spain Alfonso Ponce descenta

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<v Speaker 1>cruz Uh. The patient is actually unknown. We don't know

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<v Speaker 1>who this individual was, but it was possibly a French

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<v Speaker 1>prince as he was also described by French King Henry

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth Chief Physician. So this is another case where

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<v Speaker 1>you have an individual who's just languishing on straw beds,

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<v Speaker 1>avoiding being broken by any kind of physical contact. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a there's a large sense of melancholy in all

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<v Speaker 1>these cases as well. You know, it's like I can't

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<v Speaker 1>move because if I move, I might I'm I'm gonna die.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna shatter. Sure, And we don't just mean melancholy

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<v Speaker 1>in in the modern sense. We would use it like

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<v Speaker 1>melancholy in the infinite sadness, but the actual sort of

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<v Speaker 1>medieval bodily humors based theory of melancholy, which was a

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<v Speaker 1>somewhat different thing. Yeah, and also far more debilitating and

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<v Speaker 1>and seen as is rooted in these these key these

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<v Speaker 1>four key biological principles, right, the four key humors. So

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<v Speaker 1>the treatment, of course was interesting for this and it

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<v Speaker 1>seems a bit tongue in cheak. I don't know to

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<v Speaker 1>what extent we can we actually believe it, uh, But

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<v Speaker 1>supposedly that the treatment for this individuals class solution was

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<v Speaker 1>to set fire to the straw in the bed, which

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<v Speaker 1>immediately cured him because he jumps out of the bed

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<v Speaker 1>for fear of the fire. And well, he doesn't shatter,

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't break. And you see this kind of sink

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<v Speaker 1>or swim treatment in a in a number of the accounts. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there was another account I was reading about in one

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<v Speaker 1>of the main sources we used for this episode, where

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<v Speaker 1>and I believe it was suspected that this is an

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<v Speaker 1>embellished or made up account, but the story goes that

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<v Speaker 1>there was a man who believed his buttocks were made

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<v Speaker 1>of glass, and the doctor cured him by beating him ye,

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<v Speaker 1>beating him like basically spanking him with a cane and saying, look,

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<v Speaker 1>your buttocks are not shattering, and the pain you're feeling

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<v Speaker 1>is purely organic in nature. And I think in that

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<v Speaker 1>in that account or story, the the individual with glass

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<v Speaker 1>delusion was himself a glass artisan, so you had that

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<v Speaker 1>level of complexity to it. Another example from history would

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<v Speaker 1>be the Flemish poet philosopher Guests bar van borel From

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<v Speaker 1>who lived from four to sixteen forty eight, also known

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<v Speaker 1>as bar Lais. Yeah, this is another individual who reportedly

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<v Speaker 1>suffered melancholy throughout his life and may have suffered a

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<v Speaker 1>mirror delusion, or it's possible he was just waxing poetic

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<v Speaker 1>and philosophic when he said the following. But how often

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<v Speaker 1>the fantasy wants to act absurdly and ridiculously in melancholics

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<v Speaker 1>of how much does it convince the unhappy fellows? This

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<v Speaker 1>one thinks he's made of glass and terrified, is fearful

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<v Speaker 1>of people standing close to him. And and and in this

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<v Speaker 1>we kind of get into one of the problems that

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<v Speaker 1>it emerges when you look back on the glass delusion

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<v Speaker 1>literature is that how many of these cases are actual

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<v Speaker 1>cases where someone was suffering from, you know, psychiatric delusion

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<v Speaker 1>about the nature of their body, and to what extented

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<v Speaker 1>they the embellish stories, are they just outright uh, you

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<v Speaker 1>know literary devices uses of the metaphor of the body

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<v Speaker 1>is glass. Yeah. One of the things about the glass

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<v Speaker 1>delusion is that it's so it's so imagistic, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>so evocative, and it makes a great story. And whenever

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<v Speaker 1>there is a condition that makes a great story, you've

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<v Speaker 1>got to be suspicious of some of these historical accounts

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<v Speaker 1>because they make such great stories. Yeah, it reminds me

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<v Speaker 1>of the you know, the old not even that old,

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<v Speaker 1>but the the the sort of urban legends about the

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<v Speaker 1>you know, somebody took so much LSD that they thought

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<v Speaker 1>they were a bug and climbed inside a keyhole, or

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<v Speaker 1>I thought they were a key and climbed inside a keyhole,

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<v Speaker 1>something like of that nature. Um, which it sounds wonderful

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<v Speaker 1>because it's so ridiculous and so ridiculous that it's actually

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<v Speaker 1>kind of horrifying. But then when you start teasing an

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<v Speaker 1>apart and saying, well did this really happen? Was that

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<v Speaker 1>actually a delusion or is it just make for some

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<v Speaker 1>compelling bit of fiction. Yes, So one of our main

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<v Speaker 1>sources for this episode was an essay by someone going

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<v Speaker 1>by the name gil Speak published in the History of

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<v Speaker 1>Psychiatry in nine and it was called an Odd Kind

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<v Speaker 1>of Melancholy Reflections on the Glass Delusion in Europe fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>forty to sixteen eighty. And the author of this essay

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<v Speaker 1>makes some really interesting general observations about when you see

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<v Speaker 1>this delusion popping up, and one of the most interesting

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<v Speaker 1>to me was that the author says it is an

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<v Speaker 1>affliction of the man of letters in Europe. Yeah, this

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<v Speaker 1>is interesting because because again we already touched on the

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<v Speaker 1>literary history of glass delusion that we see it in

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<v Speaker 1>medical accounts, published studies essentially of the day, as well

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<v Speaker 1>as as fiction outright fiction as well, and and that

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<v Speaker 1>sort of space between where you don't know of if

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<v Speaker 1>a have a poet or philosopher is talking about something

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<v Speaker 1>that actually happened or just you know, trying to make

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<v Speaker 1>a prove a point about the human condition. But any rate,

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<v Speaker 1>you have certain individuals who are perhaps saying already a

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<v Speaker 1>little um more inclined toward bouts of melancholy, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>reading all this stuff there of a class where they

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<v Speaker 1>have both the time and the ability to consume all

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<v Speaker 1>of these materials and uh, and so they're they're feeding

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<v Speaker 1>their mind with the idea of glass delusion and perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>allowing then their mind to to generate the delusion. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So the prevalence of glass delusions could be kind of

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<v Speaker 1>self reinforcing. The people who are the most in temperament

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<v Speaker 1>susceptible to it are also the people who are being

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<v Speaker 1>fed stories about it, right. Yeah, It's kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>if if today somebody was watching a bunch of zombie

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<v Speaker 1>uh TV and reading zombie fiction and zombie comics and

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<v Speaker 1>then suddenly started believing that they themselves were undead or

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<v Speaker 1>but we're getting to have a very real fear of

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<v Speaker 1>of the undead. And likewise, if individual centuries from now

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<v Speaker 1>looked back on media from today and said, oh, there

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<v Speaker 1>were a lot of these zombie stories going on, where

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<v Speaker 1>any of these accounts actual happenings, where they were just

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<v Speaker 1>a fiction people were obsessed with in the day. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>is it life imitating art or the undead imitating life? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Like one of the big examples that comes up comes

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<v Speaker 1>from Servants the Lawyer of Glass, which of course we

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<v Speaker 1>reference in our introduction here, which which tells the story

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<v Speaker 1>of of a lawyer who is essentially poisoned. Um did

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<v Speaker 1>you want to you want to break into into his story? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>of course yeah. So the the young lawyer is a prodigy.

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<v Speaker 1>He is very gifted and witty and skillful, and he

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<v Speaker 1>graduates from law school. And there is a young lady

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<v Speaker 1>who falls in love with him and wants him to

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<v Speaker 1>fall in love with her. So she comes up with

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<v Speaker 1>a love potion that is supposed to get the job done,

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<v Speaker 1>but instead it goes haywire. She slips the love potion

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<v Speaker 1>into a fruit that he eats, and instead of falling

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<v Speaker 1>in love with her, he falls into a coma. And

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<v Speaker 1>then when he wakes from his coma, he suffers from

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<v Speaker 1>the delusion that his body is made of glass. He

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<v Speaker 1>has contracted the glass delusion. Nevertheless, he goes on to

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<v Speaker 1>have a pretty famous and interesting career. So he becomes

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<v Speaker 1>known all over the place for being the glass lawyer,

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<v Speaker 1>the lawyer who has to travel around and a coach

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<v Speaker 1>filled with straw to you know, blunt all the corners

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<v Speaker 1>and make sure he doesn't get chattered. They say. He

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<v Speaker 1>walks in the center of the street to avoid roof

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<v Speaker 1>tiles falling down on him and shattering him. And then

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<v Speaker 1>eventually he wakes up from his delusion. He says, oh, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I'm not made of glass, but now

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<v Speaker 1>this is what he's famous for. So I have to

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<v Speaker 1>keep that. I have to keep it going. I have

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<v Speaker 1>to keep images of that, right. Um. So yeah, this

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<v Speaker 1>becomes a you know, a fertile meme for literate Europeans.

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<v Speaker 1>And you see glass buttocks showing up in a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of these accounts. They are all kinds of glass body parts, arms, legs, heads, hearts, chests,

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<v Speaker 1>but it seems like the most common one is buttocks. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's also the most humorous. And I think, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess that's the That's the thing is that if if

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to tell a story about somebody with a

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<v Speaker 1>body part made out of glass, that the buttocks are

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<v Speaker 1>perfect well to mention. Another literary example in the English

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<v Speaker 1>play Lingua from sixteen o seven by the playwright Thomas

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<v Speaker 1>thom Kiss. There is a glass man in this play

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<v Speaker 1>named Tactus, who says to a character named ol fact Us, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>I am a urinal I dare not stir for fear

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<v Speaker 1>of cracking in the bottom and so in this we

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<v Speaker 1>get into the subset of glass man, in which the

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<v Speaker 1>glass man is not only a glass vessel, he is

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<v Speaker 1>a glass vessel full of urine in the delusion. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So the author of that essay I mentioned tells us

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<v Speaker 1>that actually, at the time urinal was a synonym. It

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<v Speaker 1>just meant like a glass flask, a small flask, but

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<v Speaker 1>that it certainly had the connotation of something you would

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<v Speaker 1>fill up with urine. But sitting around the study and

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<v Speaker 1>you need, you need to go, you just grab whatever

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<v Speaker 1>kind of glass apparatus is the handy, right. Yeah. And

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<v Speaker 1>as just one of the uh, the connections here when

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<v Speaker 1>you start looking at the what glass delusion meant to

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<v Speaker 1>contemporary UH readers and anyone hearing any of these stories. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>so the glass delusion isn't just about the physical fragility

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<v Speaker 1>of the body that the breakable nous. It takes on

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<v Speaker 1>other significant dimensions as well. Indeed, I mean at the

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<v Speaker 1>time we see fortune is often described as a goddess,

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<v Speaker 1>a fickle goddess that's made of glass. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's fragile, it's it's fickle. Um. Likewise, chastity sometimes explained

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<v Speaker 1>UH with the metaphor of glass. Uh, the particularly the

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<v Speaker 1>French bishop Saint Francis to sales who compared to the

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<v Speaker 1>human body to glass. And and then you have these

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<v Speaker 1>different human bodies going around uh, and they should not

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<v Speaker 1>be carried together without danger of collision and break it um.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there's this rich tradition in the Bible describing

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<v Speaker 1>the human condition as that of a vessel. And now

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<v Speaker 1>there's not a number of these these descriptions that that

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<v Speaker 1>appear in the Biblical tradition are conflicting and there's not

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<v Speaker 1>a definite thread throughout them, but one of the basic

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<v Speaker 1>ones is the human body as a vessel in which,

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<v Speaker 1>like the Holy Spirit is invested right right, if you

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<v Speaker 1>cracked this vessel, the pure element that's being poured in

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<v Speaker 1>can spill out. It's a bad thing. So sort of

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<v Speaker 1>the body is a temple type thing, right, Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's this idea that one wants to preserve his purity

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<v Speaker 1>and goodness, and but you do that by remaining intact

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<v Speaker 1>to not let it spill out onto the ground and

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<v Speaker 1>be wasted. Which makes me instantly think of the kool

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<v Speaker 1>aid man. Really is our our our generation's glass man.

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<v Speaker 1>He is he is a vessel of glass and uh

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<v Speaker 1>God or you know, the Kulai corporation, whoever has invested

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<v Speaker 1>him with this red power. You know. One of the

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<v Speaker 1>things I immediately think of then, is that if the

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<v Speaker 1>kool Aid Man were to lose his kool aid, to

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<v Speaker 1>be cracked and leak all of his red power out

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<v Speaker 1>onto the ground, he would not only be fragile and breakable,

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<v Speaker 1>but he would be transparent. You could see straight through

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<v Speaker 1>the kool Aid Man. And that seems significant also in

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<v Speaker 1>the history of the glass delusion. That's right. Uh, photophobia

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<v Speaker 1>factors into a number of these So not only are

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<v Speaker 1>you afraid that you're going to to shatter on impact

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<v Speaker 1>with any other kind of physical object. Not only are you,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, keeping yourself confined, you're you're super soft, bad,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're also closing the shutters because you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>light to shine through you. Yeah, because that would be

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<v Speaker 1>kind of horrifying, right, because they're the light is shining

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<v Speaker 1>through your glass body, revealing the emptiness of your form

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<v Speaker 1>in addition to the ephemeral nature of your form. Yeah,

0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:46.359
<v Speaker 1>it's like the ultimate privacy. Weird out. You're not only exposed,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're actually transparent. People can not only see your nakedness,

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<v Speaker 1>but see beyond you. Yeah. At the time when as

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<v Speaker 1>as optics, uh, you know, makes its way into everyday life,

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<v Speaker 1>especially for you know, learned individuals. Yeah, you know, you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're putting a looking glasses, spectacles on your nose, on

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<v Speaker 1>your nose so you can read, etcetera. By the early

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<v Speaker 1>seventeenth century, you actually see numerous books with titles that

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<v Speaker 1>refer to the looking glass to imply a means of

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<v Speaker 1>self discovery. So, as gil speak argues in his work,

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<v Speaker 1>you see a melancholic photophobia representing the fear of self discovery,

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<v Speaker 1>a kind of techno metaphor for the old adage the

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<v Speaker 1>light that sets me free, you can also blind me. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not just the fear of being seen through

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<v Speaker 1>by others, but the fear of seeing through oneself. Another

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<v Speaker 1>thing about the kool aid Man, he's made out of glass.

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<v Speaker 1>He seems like the perfect candidate for glass delusion. And

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<v Speaker 1>yet what is the other thing that coolant kulaid man

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<v Speaker 1>does all the time. He busts through cinder block. So

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<v Speaker 1>how does that? How does that work? How I've never

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<v Speaker 1>really really questioned it. I was just, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>just completely trusted the media that I was presented with.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, kool Aid Man can bust through a wall,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's a glass vessel. What's what's going on here? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he could be some of that special reinforced glass that

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<v Speaker 1>you know they use in the in the army vehicles

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<v Speaker 1>for windshields and stuff. It doesn't break so easily. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not quite sure why they would invest that technology in

0:19:14.840 --> 0:19:16.920
<v Speaker 1>the kool Aid Man. Or maybe it's all about the

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<v Speaker 1>Koolaid itself, Like he should break like without the kool

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<v Speaker 1>Aid in him, he would have no power. He would

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<v Speaker 1>be just that fragile vessel. But Koolaid is so good

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<v Speaker 1>and so potent that it can make even the kool

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<v Speaker 1>Aid Man of a creature of glass breakthrough that wall. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Or it's just that the cinder blocks in the wall

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<v Speaker 1>have been made with sand and thus are very very soft.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's true. That's true. So another aspect of the

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<v Speaker 1>glass delusion that might be interesting to talk about would

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<v Speaker 1>be the significance of glass as a technology, because the

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<v Speaker 1>bodily fragility delusion is not It did not begin with

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<v Speaker 1>the glass delusion. In fact, gil Speak tells us that

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<v Speaker 1>there are classical and medieval accounts of earthen where men.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is sort of older glass style. The ceramics,

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<v Speaker 1>the glazed ceramics that are not quite the type of

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<v Speaker 1>clear glass we think about emerging is the windows stuff

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<v Speaker 1>of more recent history. But back in the olden days,

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<v Speaker 1>you might think you were a clay pot and you

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<v Speaker 1>could crack just as easily as a clay pot. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and the techno metaphor here, uh, you know it just

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<v Speaker 1>it makes perfect sense. You can imagine some you know,

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<v Speaker 1>member of an ancient culture and they have this ceramic

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<v Speaker 1>pot that they've created, a lot of work has gone

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<v Speaker 1>into it, a lot of artistry, and it's a it's

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<v Speaker 1>a useful item, but it's also so easily easily shattered,

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<v Speaker 1>so that that seems an irresistible metaphor for the human experience.

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<v Speaker 1>And as we discussed in our recent episodes on techno religion,

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<v Speaker 1>that we can't help but look to our technology and

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<v Speaker 1>our man made devices and systems and try to use

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<v Speaker 1>those to define ourselves, whether you're talking about you know,

0:20:55.440 --> 0:21:01.240
<v Speaker 1>metaphors for you know, agricultural technology or or construction technology

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<v Speaker 1>and ancient texts or modern interpretations where we we think

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<v Speaker 1>of our mind as a computer or we, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>illogically think of our memories as videotapes. Yeah, and very much.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there is the same kind of thing we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about in techno religion, where ancient metaphors, ancient technological

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<v Speaker 1>metaphors are very acceptable to us. Talking about the turning

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<v Speaker 1>of a wheel that feels sufficiently ancient and and deep

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<v Speaker 1>enough in the human experience to be a metaphor for

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<v Speaker 1>something magical and and related to God. But talking about

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<v Speaker 1>computers and cell phones that feels crass in the context

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<v Speaker 1>of religion. And I think the same thing could could

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<v Speaker 1>possibly apply when talking about what delusions are likely to

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<v Speaker 1>take hold. Things that are I don't know, have more

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<v Speaker 1>of an ancient pedigree seem to be more plausible to us.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, then again, you do hear people saying they

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<v Speaker 1>put microchips in my brain. I mean that is modern

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<v Speaker 1>delusion some people suffer from. Uh do you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, totally. I mean we when we

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<v Speaker 1>take that that understanding of it and when and we

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<v Speaker 1>can easily apply it to uh uh you know, to

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<v Speaker 1>the fourteenth century, because this is a time when we

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<v Speaker 1>saw an existing technology glass really really developed, really evolved

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<v Speaker 1>because because we've had glass for a while, we we

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<v Speaker 1>have earliest some of the earliest man made glass objects.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, generally beads date back to around UHT b

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<v Speaker 1>c E. But around twenty we see the crown glass

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<v Speaker 1>blowing technique really kick off. Broadsheet glass emerges earlier in

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<v Speaker 1>twelve twenty six, and these really um change what's possible

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<v Speaker 1>with glass and the and the sort of applications that

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<v Speaker 1>we can we can use. And of course, uh, you

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<v Speaker 1>know we're seeing stained glass so up in in churches, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>which which has an interesting connection to to mystical thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>on glass. Uh. There is a certainly a mysticism of

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<v Speaker 1>light at the time, a key factor in the Abbott

0:23:06.920 --> 0:23:11.399
<v Speaker 1>Shuger of Saint denis his a twelfth century push for

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<v Speaker 1>larger windows and colored glasses in churches. And of course this,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that the mysticism light of light here is

0:23:17.480 --> 0:23:19.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, pretty obvious. You get into ideas of of

0:23:19.960 --> 0:23:24.040
<v Speaker 1>light as this, uh, you know, this metaphor for God's presence,

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<v Speaker 1>for God's love, the light of God shining in uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course optics have always been an area of

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<v Speaker 1>scientific inquiry, even in times when when science was you know,

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<v Speaker 1>lobbed in there with the philosophical and even magical pursuits.

0:23:37.840 --> 0:23:41.200
<v Speaker 1>You have glass, balls, mirror, other optical creations often used

0:23:41.240 --> 0:23:46.200
<v Speaker 1>as wards against evil spirits, are used in divination. So, uh,

0:23:46.280 --> 0:23:49.280
<v Speaker 1>there's fertile ground there for you. Even as glass begins

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<v Speaker 1>to show up everywhere, um, at least in the ritzier

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<v Speaker 1>parts of your your your local population centers, there's still

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of mysticism, uh, in if not the substance itself,

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<v Speaker 1>at least in the fact that it is used as

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<v Speaker 1>a convance for light, Yeah, and the fact that it

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<v Speaker 1>can be used to manipulate light. And I'm sure once

0:24:08.040 --> 0:24:10.960
<v Speaker 1>that happened, that must have been strange to people, for

0:24:10.960 --> 0:24:13.359
<v Speaker 1>for whom that was new. Yeah. I mean, look what

0:24:13.440 --> 0:24:16.600
<v Speaker 1>a stained glass does to the interior of a cathedral, right,

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<v Speaker 1>It transforms the light of day into this, uh, this

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<v Speaker 1>phantasmagorical mix of colors. Yeah, and light is something we

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<v Speaker 1>don't normally think about being able to manipulate, at least

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<v Speaker 1>not in the you know, at your caveman level of technology,

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<v Speaker 1>or even at your you know, early Middle ages level

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<v Speaker 1>of technology. What are you gonna do with light? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just coming from the sun. And you can make

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<v Speaker 1>it with fire, and you can I guess you can

0:24:41.680 --> 0:24:44.600
<v Speaker 1>put a shade up. I mean, what's so pervasive now

0:24:44.680 --> 0:24:47.439
<v Speaker 1>our optical technology and our manipulation of light that we

0:24:47.440 --> 0:24:50.119
<v Speaker 1>don't even think about it, but we are just today

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<v Speaker 1>we're just wizards of light. Like just in this room,

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<v Speaker 1>look at all the sources of artificial light coming at

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<v Speaker 1>us in the way that we're we're manipulating even the

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<v Speaker 1>the artificiality of it through various you know, various lenses,

0:25:02.960 --> 0:25:06.920
<v Speaker 1>through screens, through different types of bulbs. I mean, it's

0:25:06.960 --> 0:25:09.119
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of crazy. So today we live in an

0:25:09.160 --> 0:25:11.119
<v Speaker 1>age where we don't even question the magic. But if

0:25:11.160 --> 0:25:12.840
<v Speaker 1>we look back to this time where the mat a

0:25:12.840 --> 0:25:16.040
<v Speaker 1>lot of the magic is really beginning to come online, Um,

0:25:16.119 --> 0:25:18.119
<v Speaker 1>you can see where that would really get into people's

0:25:18.160 --> 0:25:23.520
<v Speaker 1>heads and help feed existing tendencies towards delusion. Yeah. Okay,

0:25:23.520 --> 0:25:28.080
<v Speaker 1>so we've talked about the images and the ideas that

0:25:28.200 --> 0:25:31.359
<v Speaker 1>fed into the glass delusion, but I think we haven't

0:25:31.400 --> 0:25:34.959
<v Speaker 1>really talked about the explanation for the glass delusion. And

0:25:35.160 --> 0:25:38.719
<v Speaker 1>this is always sort of difficult territory and psychology, where

0:25:38.560 --> 0:25:43.520
<v Speaker 1>you're trying to explain what need a psychological delusion answers.

0:25:43.560 --> 0:25:47.360
<v Speaker 1>But that is something that people have speculated upon. So

0:25:47.480 --> 0:25:50.720
<v Speaker 1>why does the glass lawyer think he is made of glass?

0:25:50.880 --> 0:25:55.040
<v Speaker 1>What causes that? Yeah? In this it really ties well

0:25:55.080 --> 0:25:58.880
<v Speaker 1>into what's known as terror management theory or t MT,

0:25:59.240 --> 0:26:02.480
<v Speaker 1>which is a direct from a cultural anthropologist, Ernest Becker's

0:26:02.480 --> 0:26:07.200
<v Speaker 1>efforts to explain the motivational underpinnings of human behavior, which

0:26:07.440 --> 0:26:12.360
<v Speaker 1>you know everything. Yeah, I mean that's the key argument

0:26:12.440 --> 0:26:15.119
<v Speaker 1>is that like the biggest thing in life is the

0:26:16.040 --> 0:26:19.159
<v Speaker 1>is the eventuality of death, and that every knowledge of

0:26:19.200 --> 0:26:22.160
<v Speaker 1>it knowledge you have to realize it's coming. It's gonna happen,

0:26:22.200 --> 0:26:24.080
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna happen to me, it's gonna happen to everyone

0:26:24.119 --> 0:26:27.199
<v Speaker 1>I know and love, UM, and there's nothing I can

0:26:27.240 --> 0:26:29.360
<v Speaker 1>do about it. And there's there's very little I can

0:26:29.400 --> 0:26:32.560
<v Speaker 1>do to predict when it's going to happen. And so this,

0:26:32.560 --> 0:26:35.280
<v Speaker 1>this knowledge of death, this knowledge of impermanence, is so

0:26:35.520 --> 0:26:39.200
<v Speaker 1>pervasive that it factors into everything we do, both the

0:26:39.359 --> 0:26:42.080
<v Speaker 1>fear of it, the wish to avoid it, and the

0:26:42.160 --> 0:26:47.720
<v Speaker 1>desire for immortality, either some sort of literal immortality through

0:26:48.119 --> 0:26:53.600
<v Speaker 1>today science, um, religiously through ideas of resurrection, or reincarnation,

0:26:54.119 --> 0:26:57.800
<v Speaker 1>or you know, you know less less literal ideas of immortality,

0:26:57.920 --> 0:27:00.239
<v Speaker 1>such as I'm gonna I'm gonna be faint, so I'm

0:27:00.280 --> 0:27:02.840
<v Speaker 1>gonna really make a name for myself, or have lots

0:27:02.840 --> 0:27:05.600
<v Speaker 1>of kids. That's lots of children, or I'm just gonna

0:27:05.720 --> 0:27:08.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna make sure that my grave marker is made

0:27:08.600 --> 0:27:11.520
<v Speaker 1>out of stone. I'm not made out of stone, but

0:27:11.800 --> 0:27:13.800
<v Speaker 1>at least something with my name on it will be

0:27:13.840 --> 0:27:16.280
<v Speaker 1>made out of stone, and I will have a curse

0:27:16.359 --> 0:27:18.960
<v Speaker 1>carved into it than anyone walking through the graveyard will

0:27:18.960 --> 0:27:21.680
<v Speaker 1>tremble to look upon. And so you can really see

0:27:21.680 --> 0:27:25.199
<v Speaker 1>where if you look at life through the lens of

0:27:25.520 --> 0:27:29.360
<v Speaker 1>terror management theory, you can see how how glass delusion

0:27:29.440 --> 0:27:32.920
<v Speaker 1>fits fits neatly into that. You can see. Sure, Yeah,

0:27:32.920 --> 0:27:36.520
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of a perfect physical metaphor for realizing the

0:27:36.560 --> 0:27:41.239
<v Speaker 1>fragility of one's existence, sort of the metaphorical fragility that

0:27:41.280 --> 0:27:45.200
<v Speaker 1>you're always just a moment away, potentially from the end

0:27:45.840 --> 0:27:48.679
<v Speaker 1>from being shattered. Yeah, and you know, in this it

0:27:48.760 --> 0:27:52.040
<v Speaker 1>reminds me a little bit of a scene from David

0:27:52.040 --> 0:27:55.000
<v Speaker 1>Cronenberg's Crash. Did you ever see this one? No, that's

0:27:55.040 --> 0:27:57.120
<v Speaker 1>one of the few Cronenberg's I've not seen it. Yeah,

0:27:57.119 --> 0:27:59.520
<v Speaker 1>it's I've heard. It's messed up. It's messed up. It's

0:27:59.520 --> 0:28:04.920
<v Speaker 1>a weird lick about individuals who fetish eye uh, like

0:28:05.400 --> 0:28:10.080
<v Speaker 1>famous lethal car crashes and just car crashes in general. Um.

0:28:10.119 --> 0:28:12.960
<v Speaker 1>But there's a scene early on where, if I remember,

0:28:13.480 --> 0:28:16.640
<v Speaker 1>a character has been in a pretty pretty catastrophic car

0:28:16.720 --> 0:28:19.879
<v Speaker 1>wreck and they have just recovered from their injury. Uh,

0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:21.879
<v Speaker 1>and there there's a scene of them riding in the

0:28:21.920 --> 0:28:23.680
<v Speaker 1>car and it's kind of a split shot with half

0:28:23.720 --> 0:28:26.479
<v Speaker 1>of the half of the scene is uh, is inside

0:28:26.520 --> 0:28:29.240
<v Speaker 1>the vehicle, and then half of it is the busy

0:28:29.320 --> 0:28:31.600
<v Speaker 1>highway on the other side. And it really does a

0:28:31.600 --> 0:28:33.919
<v Speaker 1>great job of, you know, driving home this uh, this

0:28:34.040 --> 0:28:37.920
<v Speaker 1>character's realization about the fragility of the human body. Yeah.

0:28:38.000 --> 0:28:41.240
<v Speaker 1>There's that quote from the novel Sutree by cormck McCarthy,

0:28:41.360 --> 0:28:46.000
<v Speaker 1>which is is great if you wonderful. Yeah, it's very funny,

0:28:46.840 --> 0:28:50.680
<v Speaker 1>which is unusual for McCarthy. Uh. That says, what could

0:28:50.720 --> 0:28:54.200
<v Speaker 1>a child know of the darkness of God's plan? Or

0:28:54.240 --> 0:28:56.880
<v Speaker 1>how flesh is so frail? It is hardly more than

0:28:56.920 --> 0:28:59.840
<v Speaker 1>a dream. It's a great line. No, not one of

0:28:59.840 --> 0:29:03.440
<v Speaker 1>the funnier moments in the in the book, but no, no,

0:29:03.440 --> 0:29:06.080
<v Speaker 1>no contact with watermelons in that one. But no. That

0:29:06.160 --> 0:29:09.200
<v Speaker 1>Centre is a wonderful, wonderful book, full of plenty of

0:29:09.480 --> 0:29:12.959
<v Speaker 1>Corey McCarthy darkness in places, but also again it's it's

0:29:13.000 --> 0:29:16.760
<v Speaker 1>also core McCarthy. It is is most humorous. So one

0:29:16.760 --> 0:29:19.320
<v Speaker 1>of the things you might have noticed about pretty much

0:29:19.360 --> 0:29:21.560
<v Speaker 1>all of the cases we've mentioned so far is that

0:29:21.640 --> 0:29:24.760
<v Speaker 1>they come from a particular time and place. We're talking

0:29:24.760 --> 0:29:28.760
<v Speaker 1>about early modern Europe, and that was a particular time

0:29:28.800 --> 0:29:31.320
<v Speaker 1>and place in which this delusion seemed to take hold.

0:29:31.360 --> 0:29:35.400
<v Speaker 1>It suddenly became popular, and you had glass buddocks everywhere.

0:29:36.240 --> 0:29:39.320
<v Speaker 1>But there are some more recent and even some modern

0:29:39.440 --> 0:29:42.040
<v Speaker 1>cases of the glass delusion, and I think it would

0:29:42.040 --> 0:29:45.640
<v Speaker 1>be really interesting to transition to look at those, yeah,

0:29:45.680 --> 0:29:49.920
<v Speaker 1>because because these definitely occur outside of that era of

0:29:49.920 --> 0:29:53.080
<v Speaker 1>of glass is an exciting technology, outside of an era

0:29:53.120 --> 0:29:57.160
<v Speaker 1>in which you had these clear cultural influences, you know,

0:29:57.200 --> 0:29:59.960
<v Speaker 1>regarding the humors and you know, the idea of the

0:30:00.040 --> 0:30:02.920
<v Speaker 1>body as some sort of a biblical vessel, etcetera. And

0:30:02.920 --> 0:30:05.640
<v Speaker 1>then as we come to the work of psychiatrist Andy

0:30:05.720 --> 0:30:10.400
<v Speaker 1>Lemaine Um from Leaden in the Netherlands, and he has

0:30:10.640 --> 0:30:15.080
<v Speaker 1>in recent years claim to have uncovered contemporary cases of

0:30:15.160 --> 0:30:19.760
<v Speaker 1>glass delusion. Interesting. Yeah, he was apparently lecturing on the topic,

0:30:19.960 --> 0:30:22.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, just historically, you know kind of you know,

0:30:22.440 --> 0:30:24.720
<v Speaker 1>how how we've been discussing it. Uh, And then he

0:30:24.760 --> 0:30:27.800
<v Speaker 1>was approached by a Dutch physician who claimed to have

0:30:27.880 --> 0:30:30.800
<v Speaker 1>run across a nineteen thirties case of a woman who

0:30:30.800 --> 0:30:34.920
<v Speaker 1>believed her legs and back were made of glass, suspected

0:30:35.880 --> 0:30:38.600
<v Speaker 1>by the Dutch physician in question to have have been

0:30:38.680 --> 0:30:43.520
<v Speaker 1>part of her particular extreme fear of personal contact. Which

0:30:43.560 --> 0:30:46.680
<v Speaker 1>is which is an angle on it that that hadn't

0:30:46.680 --> 0:30:49.760
<v Speaker 1>really but we haven't really discussed and maybe as ultimately

0:30:49.760 --> 0:30:52.560
<v Speaker 1>a more modern angle to take on it, this gorea

0:30:52.600 --> 0:30:57.040
<v Speaker 1>phobia as the root of glass delusion in an individual. Yeah,

0:30:57.040 --> 0:30:59.840
<v Speaker 1>it shows up in some of these earlier descriptions about

0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:03.120
<v Speaker 1>people who who feared being approached by others less to

0:31:03.160 --> 0:31:06.760
<v Speaker 1>those people shatter them. But those older cases really do

0:31:06.840 --> 0:31:09.920
<v Speaker 1>seem to have more to do with death. It seems

0:31:09.960 --> 0:31:13.520
<v Speaker 1>to me like they fear all kinds of mechanical and

0:31:13.520 --> 0:31:17.320
<v Speaker 1>physical trauma, you know, being afraid of roof tiles falling

0:31:17.360 --> 0:31:19.760
<v Speaker 1>on you, or of being jostled too much in the

0:31:19.840 --> 0:31:22.920
<v Speaker 1>carriage or something which you're both kind of fears of technology.

0:31:22.960 --> 0:31:26.440
<v Speaker 1>That's interesting, Yeah, but but this is strictly talking about

0:31:26.440 --> 0:31:29.960
<v Speaker 1>personal contact. And typically when you're thinking about what would

0:31:29.960 --> 0:31:33.360
<v Speaker 1>break glass, you don't think about somebody's hands. You think about,

0:31:33.400 --> 0:31:35.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, dropping it on the floor or something like that.

0:31:36.800 --> 0:31:40.320
<v Speaker 1>But I can definitely see how this type of glass

0:31:40.360 --> 0:31:44.080
<v Speaker 1>delusion could come into play as well. Yeah, and then

0:31:44.400 --> 0:31:48.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, following this, another doctor brought him an additional

0:31:48.560 --> 0:31:53.080
<v Speaker 1>case from a different hospital from around nineteen but it

0:31:53.440 --> 0:31:56.880
<v Speaker 1>but but the really key moment in uh Leman's research

0:31:56.960 --> 0:31:59.080
<v Speaker 1>came when a young patient showed up at his own

0:31:59.120 --> 0:32:02.560
<v Speaker 1>hospital claiming to be made out of glass. So, of

0:32:02.600 --> 0:32:05.200
<v Speaker 1>course he did what you know that you would expect.

0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:06.840
<v Speaker 1>He said, well, we'll come on in, I will get

0:32:06.840 --> 0:32:09.480
<v Speaker 1>you a nice cushion to set on, and we will

0:32:09.520 --> 0:32:11.960
<v Speaker 1>talk about your glass delusion because I really want to

0:32:11.960 --> 0:32:13.760
<v Speaker 1>find out what's at the root of it. And and

0:32:13.800 --> 0:32:17.720
<v Speaker 1>he made sure uh not to lead the questions too much,

0:32:17.840 --> 0:32:20.640
<v Speaker 1>not not to immediately presume that it had to do

0:32:20.720 --> 0:32:23.600
<v Speaker 1>with with with terror management theory and a fear of

0:32:23.640 --> 0:32:26.640
<v Speaker 1>death and impermanence, etcetera. Say, here are the symptoms you

0:32:26.680 --> 0:32:29.560
<v Speaker 1>should be experiencing if you have glass delusion. Yeah, I

0:32:29.600 --> 0:32:31.120
<v Speaker 1>mean this guy's this guy's a pro. He knows what

0:32:31.160 --> 0:32:35.760
<v Speaker 1>he's doing, so um it. In questioning this patient, it

0:32:35.840 --> 0:32:40.680
<v Speaker 1>emerged that the patient's feelings were similar to the way

0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:45.800
<v Speaker 1>we see through the glass in a window, observing everything beyond,

0:32:45.840 --> 0:32:49.280
<v Speaker 1>has been not seeing the glass itself. So it was

0:32:50.480 --> 0:32:54.760
<v Speaker 1>it's it's tied in this almost a fear of invisibility. Yeah,

0:32:54.760 --> 0:32:59.600
<v Speaker 1>so not just being exposed, but but of being inconsequential. Yeah,

0:32:59.680 --> 0:33:02.600
<v Speaker 1>like I'm just not not only am I just another person,

0:33:02.720 --> 0:33:05.480
<v Speaker 1>but I'm a person that everyone just sees through, Like

0:33:05.600 --> 0:33:09.240
<v Speaker 1>I only take up space, but not in people's minds,

0:33:09.280 --> 0:33:13.760
<v Speaker 1>not in their actual perceptions of reality. That's fascinating. Yeah,

0:33:13.760 --> 0:33:16.560
<v Speaker 1>I think that the quote from from from the individual

0:33:16.640 --> 0:33:19.800
<v Speaker 1>as they were as they're looking out a window at

0:33:19.800 --> 0:33:23.160
<v Speaker 1>the vista beyond, they say, that's me. I'm there and

0:33:23.200 --> 0:33:26.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm not there, like the glass in a window. Yeah.

0:33:26.400 --> 0:33:28.680
<v Speaker 1>So in the right up we read of this incident,

0:33:28.720 --> 0:33:33.680
<v Speaker 1>they described how Lemayne found out from this patient that

0:33:33.800 --> 0:33:37.560
<v Speaker 1>the patient had been in an accident, and following the accident,

0:33:37.720 --> 0:33:42.120
<v Speaker 1>his family had been very overprotective of him, and that

0:33:42.520 --> 0:33:46.680
<v Speaker 1>this glass delusion served as what they called a distance regulator.

0:33:47.600 --> 0:33:50.680
<v Speaker 1>It was an attempt to have a sort of self

0:33:50.720 --> 0:33:54.880
<v Speaker 1>controlled level of distance and privacy from all of the

0:33:54.920 --> 0:33:57.480
<v Speaker 1>people leaning in on his life. So it might not

0:33:57.560 --> 0:34:00.520
<v Speaker 1>be that a person necessarily fears being in con sequential.

0:34:00.680 --> 0:34:03.400
<v Speaker 1>It might be that they desire to be less the

0:34:03.480 --> 0:34:07.000
<v Speaker 1>focus of other people's attention, which which serves to bring

0:34:07.040 --> 0:34:10.799
<v Speaker 1>us back around, interestingly enough to the young eleven year

0:34:10.800 --> 0:34:14.000
<v Speaker 1>old King Charles, right, because here's this individual who's at

0:34:14.040 --> 0:34:16.960
<v Speaker 1>the center of all these machinations and concerns about the

0:34:16.960 --> 0:34:20.640
<v Speaker 1>future of a kingdom. Uh, it's it's you know, we're

0:34:20.680 --> 0:34:24.239
<v Speaker 1>speculating here, but it seems like he would be very

0:34:24.280 --> 0:34:29.000
<v Speaker 1>easy for him to feel in consequential and overmanaged and overtouched. Yeah.

0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:30.719
<v Speaker 1>I think that's a good thought. And then, of course

0:34:30.760 --> 0:34:34.480
<v Speaker 1>there's also the possibility that the glass delusion has something

0:34:34.520 --> 0:34:38.640
<v Speaker 1>to do with fears of effacement and social humiliation. Yeah,

0:34:38.680 --> 0:34:40.279
<v Speaker 1>and this ties into the into the idea that we

0:34:40.320 --> 0:34:43.200
<v Speaker 1>live in this modern age where it's so easy to

0:34:43.280 --> 0:34:49.520
<v Speaker 1>have anxieties about our personal fragility, but also transparency, especially

0:34:49.560 --> 0:34:52.600
<v Speaker 1>of our personal space. Um So this again ties back

0:34:52.600 --> 0:34:54.920
<v Speaker 1>into that idea that that I am I'm not only

0:34:54.960 --> 0:34:57.799
<v Speaker 1>am a made of glass, but I am transparent and

0:34:58.000 --> 0:35:00.799
<v Speaker 1>I don't matter. I'm just a transparent vessel in this

0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:04.239
<v Speaker 1>world of transparent vessels. You can almost think of that

0:35:04.280 --> 0:35:07.440
<v Speaker 1>as being a physical metaphor for how some of us

0:35:07.560 --> 0:35:11.440
<v Speaker 1>exist in the online era, right in the era of retweets,

0:35:12.000 --> 0:35:16.240
<v Speaker 1>where where ideas and content often just kind of flow

0:35:16.520 --> 0:35:19.319
<v Speaker 1>through you and back out. That's where it's so easy

0:35:19.360 --> 0:35:21.959
<v Speaker 1>to be more connected than ever before to the people

0:35:21.960 --> 0:35:27.160
<v Speaker 1>in your life, but also more isolated. Yeah, I'm sharing

0:35:27.200 --> 0:35:30.759
<v Speaker 1>what I have seen. I do not produce my own light.

0:35:31.200 --> 0:35:33.759
<v Speaker 1>So I wonder if that means that we could see

0:35:34.560 --> 0:35:37.719
<v Speaker 1>more cases of glass delusion. Yeah. I wondered about what

0:35:37.840 --> 0:35:40.760
<v Speaker 1>the future of glass delusion might be since we've we've

0:35:40.920 --> 0:35:44.279
<v Speaker 1>sort of seen that it might have some relationship to

0:35:44.320 --> 0:35:48.600
<v Speaker 1>the development of glass technology throughout history. Like in the

0:35:48.640 --> 0:35:51.600
<v Speaker 1>earthenware age you have the earthenware delusion, in the clear

0:35:51.680 --> 0:35:54.759
<v Speaker 1>glass age, you have the glass delusion. What could the

0:35:54.800 --> 0:35:57.880
<v Speaker 1>future material based delusion be? Like will we ever have

0:35:57.960 --> 0:36:01.640
<v Speaker 1>the carbon nanotubes delusion? I don't know exactly what that

0:36:01.680 --> 0:36:03.279
<v Speaker 1>would be. I was just trying to think are there

0:36:03.280 --> 0:36:06.879
<v Speaker 1>any future materials people could feel like they were. Well,

0:36:07.040 --> 0:36:09.840
<v Speaker 1>one of the things I thought of was translucent concrete.

0:36:09.880 --> 0:36:11.839
<v Speaker 1>Have you read about this, No, I have none. Yeah,

0:36:11.840 --> 0:36:16.400
<v Speaker 1>it's concrete building material that has embedded elements like that.

0:36:17.480 --> 0:36:19.719
<v Speaker 1>It might be things like optical fibers that allow the

0:36:19.760 --> 0:36:22.560
<v Speaker 1>transmission of light. So the kool Aid Man could be

0:36:22.880 --> 0:36:26.239
<v Speaker 1>translucent concrete. That's why he's so strong, but you can

0:36:26.239 --> 0:36:28.800
<v Speaker 1>still see through him. Ah see he was. He's a

0:36:28.880 --> 0:36:33.160
<v Speaker 1>visitor from the future, bringing to us the joys, the wonders,

0:36:33.239 --> 0:36:37.440
<v Speaker 1>the holy miracle. Yes, uh, this this meta material. I

0:36:37.760 --> 0:36:41.000
<v Speaker 1>think that's something that's actually interesting. If you wanted to

0:36:41.040 --> 0:36:43.239
<v Speaker 1>think about a future in which we do not have

0:36:43.280 --> 0:36:46.280
<v Speaker 1>such fears about fragility, but we still have the fears

0:36:46.640 --> 0:36:51.400
<v Speaker 1>about transparency, maybe there will be the translucent concrete delusion

0:36:51.640 --> 0:36:54.320
<v Speaker 1>where we we still have all of these ideas about

0:36:54.400 --> 0:36:57.480
<v Speaker 1>who sees me, who sees into me, who sees through me?

0:36:57.920 --> 0:36:59.799
<v Speaker 1>Do I exist? Do I take up space? Do I

0:37:00.040 --> 0:37:04.200
<v Speaker 1>flect light? But people aren't so concerned about their own death.

0:37:05.320 --> 0:37:07.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, this could be if we get the kind

0:37:07.080 --> 0:37:10.640
<v Speaker 1>of Aubrey de Gray future where where the ultimate bad

0:37:10.760 --> 0:37:13.640
<v Speaker 1>ending is not a physical death but just a bad

0:37:13.719 --> 0:37:17.960
<v Speaker 1>social outcome. You know this since this brings to mind

0:37:18.000 --> 0:37:22.280
<v Speaker 1>the fact that we do see quantum mechanics and also

0:37:22.840 --> 0:37:26.880
<v Speaker 1>theories regarding the multiverse um factor into a lot of

0:37:26.880 --> 0:37:31.480
<v Speaker 1>our considerations about self and where we are in our life. Uh.

0:37:31.560 --> 0:37:33.239
<v Speaker 1>And a lot of this, I feel is is you know,

0:37:33.280 --> 0:37:36.520
<v Speaker 1>comes from our consumption of media that employs those concepts.

0:37:37.320 --> 0:37:39.400
<v Speaker 1>Is there is there like a comic book or a

0:37:39.480 --> 0:37:43.440
<v Speaker 1>sci fi usage of meta materials that it could have

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<v Speaker 1>this impact on everyone? I don't know. I'm sure there is,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just can't think of it right now. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm trying to think if there's a if there's

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<v Speaker 1>a comic book character who really makes use of some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of meta material or special material, um, clay Face maybe, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, that's sort of like the fear of being Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's always a metaphor and whatever the material is, it's

0:38:06.800 --> 0:38:09.600
<v Speaker 1>always a metaphor for your personal hangouts. Because clay Face

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<v Speaker 1>is what he's an actor, who's uh you know, is

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<v Speaker 1>he really anybody inside? Right? He can assume all these forms,

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<v Speaker 1>but he himself is formless. Um. You know. It also

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<v Speaker 1>brings the crypt kryptonite, which isn't a material, but it

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<v Speaker 1>is at an element. But we do see that used

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of Someone will say, oh, well, that is

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<v Speaker 1>my kryptonite. That is the thing that in and of

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<v Speaker 1>itself can bring about my downfall. So you know, here's

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<v Speaker 1>a thought that might be interesting or might be kind

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<v Speaker 1>of dumb. I'll let you be the judge. One thing

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking about was that beings with partially glass

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<v Speaker 1>of biology might not be unthinkable in the universe. Because

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<v Speaker 1>here was my reasoning, and and this isn't original to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard people express this idea before. Earth Animals like

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<v Speaker 1>humans are carbon based life forms, So we inhale oxygen,

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<v Speaker 1>which is O two, and then we exhale the waste product,

0:39:03.040 --> 0:39:06.280
<v Speaker 1>carbon dioxide, which is c O two, because we're carbon based,

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<v Speaker 1>if it were possible to have a silicon based organism,

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<v Speaker 1>and I have no idea if that's possible or not,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's an idea that comes up in debates about astrobiology.

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<v Speaker 1>And it breathed oxygen like us, would it inhale O

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<v Speaker 1>two and then exhale silicon dioxide the same way we

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<v Speaker 1>exhale carbon dioxide, because silicon dioxide is the main constituent

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<v Speaker 1>of glass. And if that's possible that is a legitimately

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<v Speaker 1>horrific space dragon that instead of flame breath has glass breath,

0:39:39.680 --> 0:39:43.320
<v Speaker 1>breath of glass. I like it though, it uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>brings to mind just last week we were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen King's Beach World in nineteen seventy short story about uh,

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<v Speaker 1>about individual's landing. I think it's like two humans and

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<v Speaker 1>an android, or a crew of humans and androids that

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<v Speaker 1>crash on a desert world. And at first it seems lifeless,

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<v Speaker 1>but of course you wouldn't have a short story if

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<v Speaker 1>there wasn't something out there. So the silicon sand dunes

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<v Speaker 1>sort of become sentient and then hypnotize one of the guys. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so it was pretty creepy. It's pretty creepy. Uh, it's

0:40:14.680 --> 0:40:17.959
<v Speaker 1>it's one of the great early King stories. And uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you have silicon based life in the form of these

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<v Speaker 1>this you know, collective sand entity. But if that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of life form existed on beach World, then perhaps there's

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<v Speaker 1>on the other side of Beach World there is a

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<v Speaker 1>city where you have glass beings walking around, or a

0:40:33.760 --> 0:40:37.520
<v Speaker 1>glass breathing dragon, glass breathing dragons. Now they are all

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of examples in fiction of people shattering. This is,

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<v Speaker 1>in fact, I think, a very popular trope for some reason.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, one of the big ones. I feel that

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<v Speaker 1>really that really kicked off a lot of it. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>as in Terminator to where you have the scene where

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<v Speaker 1>the liquid metal TEA one thousand is frozen solid with

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<v Speaker 1>the liquid nitrogen and then shattered. Yeah he's made brittle. Yeah.

0:41:00.880 --> 0:41:03.919
<v Speaker 1>So you see continuations of that trope, and we're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to think of a number of these. Time cop has

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of kills, it's great. My mind immediately went

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<v Speaker 1>to Jason X because there is a scene in Jason

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<v Speaker 1>X where Jason murders an unfortunate young lady by putting

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<v Speaker 1>her face in some liquid nitrogen that freezes it and

0:41:21.160 --> 0:41:25.000
<v Speaker 1>then shattering her face on a countertop. And then and

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<v Speaker 1>then Horizon there's a frozen corpse that breaks apart. Mortal Kombat.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, Zero does that to you, Donne. He freezes

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<v Speaker 1>you and then punches you to shatter you. Yeah, yeah,

0:41:33.920 --> 0:41:36.480
<v Speaker 1>sure does. And then uh and then of course, like

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<v Speaker 1>Mirror Creatures, there's the the Young Sherlock Holmes movie which

0:41:40.719 --> 0:41:45.120
<v Speaker 1>involved a stained glass night, or at least the the

0:41:45.160 --> 0:41:50.160
<v Speaker 1>hallucination of a stone of a stained glass night killing somebody. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I seem to recall that both Krull and Barbarella had

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<v Speaker 1>minions that shatter into into shards when they're killed. You

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<v Speaker 1>linked in the notes for this episode a wonderful scene

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<v Speaker 1>from the movie Warlock three that I watched late at

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<v Speaker 1>night last night, right before I went to bed. Julian

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<v Speaker 1>sands right, and he was he's he's wonderful, And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he turns a woman into glass and then shatters her,

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<v Speaker 1>not with the most pristine of special effects. Everybody still doesn't,

0:42:17.680 --> 0:42:22.520
<v Speaker 1>so God bless him. Um. Likewise, Uh, there's a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a scene in Labyrinth that involves a reality shattering

0:42:25.840 --> 0:42:29.080
<v Speaker 1>into glass. Pretty much anything that you could run across

0:42:29.080 --> 0:42:32.040
<v Speaker 1>that involves Medusa or a gorgon, there's no if you're

0:42:32.040 --> 0:42:34.279
<v Speaker 1>gonna turn an individual into stone, you also need to

0:42:34.320 --> 0:42:37.640
<v Speaker 1>shatter somebody that has been turned into stone. Yeah, even

0:42:37.680 --> 0:42:40.200
<v Speaker 1>in an age where the glass delusion might not be

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<v Speaker 1>a common delusion for people to actually suffer from, it

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<v Speaker 1>is still a very common image in our imagination for

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<v Speaker 1>some reason. Yeah, because you have things in our life

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<v Speaker 1>that are beautiful, well crafted, in pristine and we attach

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of value to them, and they are so

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<v Speaker 1>easily trashed, they're so easily bro can it don nothing

0:43:00.880 --> 0:43:05.399
<v Speaker 1>and made made completely useless, made May you know their

0:43:05.440 --> 0:43:09.800
<v Speaker 1>their beauty transformed into just ugliness. And we can't help

0:43:10.000 --> 0:43:12.440
<v Speaker 1>but see our own reflection and see our own doom.

0:43:12.960 --> 0:43:16.360
<v Speaker 1>Uh in those examples. All right, So there you have it,

0:43:16.680 --> 0:43:19.680
<v Speaker 1>mirror delusion. You know, a brief journey through the history

0:43:19.719 --> 0:43:22.720
<v Speaker 1>of mirror delusion, where it came from and how it

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<v Speaker 1>it really hasn't gone away? Uh, you know out certainly

0:43:26.200 --> 0:43:29.839
<v Speaker 1>the delusion itself is a psychiatric manifestation. You do see

0:43:29.920 --> 0:43:32.880
<v Speaker 1>very few cases off today, but the the the the idea,

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<v Speaker 1>the concept, the tying of of of impermanence to shattered

0:43:37.160 --> 0:43:40.400
<v Speaker 1>objects continues to reson it. Yeah, we'll always have Mortal Kombat.

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