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Speaker 2: Jasmine is on the phone today for a first date

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Speaker 2: follow up and she's getting ghosted by a dude named Ryan.

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Speaker 2: So in a few minutes, we're gonna call him see

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Speaker 2: if he'll tell us why he's ghosting her and maybe

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Speaker 2: get her another date if she still wants one. But first, Jasmine,

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Speaker 2: how long has it been since you heard from Ryan?

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Speaker 2: It's been a week, okay, so have you reached out

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Speaker 2: to him? And that week about how many times do

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Speaker 2: you think I've.

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Speaker 3: Reached out to him? Uh? Embarrassingly, probably over twenty times.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that's a lot. Don't be embarrassed. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I mean I think that.

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Speaker 4: We can all say that that ghosting is definitely happening here.

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Speaker 4: Then yeah, unless he lost his phone?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, both, Like who can survive without a phone nowadays?

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Speaker 2: Totally true. What were the twenty texts or calls? Like,

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Speaker 2: what did you say?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I basically it was it was like more

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Speaker 3: than twenty calls and then just a text had just

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Speaker 3: been kind of like I kind of just kind of

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Speaker 3: writing paragraphs only because him and I basically met we

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Speaker 3: spoke on this app and then before a meeting, we

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Speaker 3: were just he was like hyping me up and just

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Speaker 3: it was almost like love bombing, to be honest, now

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Speaker 3: that I think about it, and now that I've spoken

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Speaker 3: to my friends on it, but he kind of promised

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Speaker 3: me a lot of things, and I guess I was

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Speaker 3: just being really vulnerable. But before we met, he was

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Speaker 3: telling me how pretty I was, and we were going

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Speaker 3: to that place. And then when I met him, he

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Speaker 3: was so incredible, so like everything I had even ask

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Speaker 3: for I checked off, Like I don't ever, I don't

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Speaker 3: even know if people have a check box list. I don't,

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Speaker 3: but if I were to have one, he's definitely that person.

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Speaker 3: And he was witty, which is what I love so much. Time. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: when we met at this top bug bar, and I

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Speaker 3: check of course, you know, like any gentleman would, and yeah,

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Speaker 3: I asked him if he was okay after that and

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Speaker 3: absolutely nothing. But before then, before we were the day,

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Speaker 3: everything we're just like so many checks. It was like

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Speaker 3: a lot. Like I said, it was like love bombing.

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Speaker 3: And then we go on this date and it's the

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Speaker 3: greatest time of my life. And then I was like okay,

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Speaker 3: because that's like what you do. But he took too long.

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Speaker 3: I was like hey, like are you okay? And then

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Speaker 3: I was just like thanks for the night. And then

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Speaker 3: after that, I've just been like, what's going on?

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Speaker 4: So while you're on the date at the restaurant, it

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Speaker 4: was so perfect, like can you tell us about that?

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Speaker 4: What were the conversations, like, like what did you guys do?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So it was it was like NonStop like talks

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Speaker 3: out our future together. He was talking about like he

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Speaker 3: was talking about going to like Papo, going to like

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Speaker 2: Supera. Yeah, that intent.

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Speaker 4: I would wonder what was going on, but also it'd

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Speaker 4: way so soon. Yeah, did you do or say anything

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Speaker 4: on the date that may have I don't know, altered

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Speaker 3: I mean, I mean maybe I like appeared too eager

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Speaker 3: I can't wait to show you like my grandparents too,

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Speaker 3: and I was just like, maybe, like I said, like, yes,

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Speaker 2: That is a lot to go that far, right, Yeah, And.

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Speaker 3: Then now I just think maybe he's like he wasn't

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Speaker 3: I was like, I feel like I picked the perfect dress,

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Speaker 2: Well, it might not be anything about you at all.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I understand turning to yourself like what's wrong

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Speaker 3: But like, first date impressions are everything too, you know,

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Speaker 2: As a guy who's been on dates before, I don't

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Speaker 2: think I would care black or red as long as

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Speaker 2: the color of it, but hey, who knows. Everybody's different. Okay, Okay,

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Speaker 2: plaus I'll come back. Get your first day follow up,

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Speaker 1: Date follow Up powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys online

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Speaker 2: If you're just joining us for today's first date follow up.

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Speaker 2: Jasmine is on the phone and she's getting ghosted by Ryan.

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Speaker 2: So we're about to call him and see if he'll

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Speaker 2: tell us why he's ghostinger and see if she still

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Speaker 2: wants another date after she hears the reason. But things

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Speaker 2: moved pretty quickly. Jasmine, give a real quick recap for

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Speaker 2: everybody who's just joining us on your situation with Ryan.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so I feel like this isn't your regular like

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Speaker 3: ghost story. I mean, like this guy sent me flowers

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Speaker 3: his parents, he paid for the bill. Everything was good,

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Speaker 3: good conversation, and now I absolutely haven't heard from him.

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Speaker 3: And it went from so many messages of flowers to

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Speaker 2: I would want to know. Yeah, I would definitely want

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Speaker 2: to know what's going on. All right? Well you ready

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Here we go. Hello, how I speak to Ryan? Please?

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Speaker 3: This is Ryan?

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Speaker 2: Ryan? How are you man? My name is Jubil from

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Speaker 2: a radio show called The Jebel Show. Hi, Ryan, whole

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Speaker 2: show's here. I'm Nina. Hi, I'm Victoria.

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Speaker 5: Well, okay, what's up?

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Speaker 2: Have you ever listened to the show before?

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Speaker 3: I have? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Cool? No, Ryan, we're calling you because you went on

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Speaker 2: a date with somebody and you haven't called them back. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So I'm not sure if you've ever heard a first

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Speaker 2: got an email about you from Jasmine. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: do you mind telling us about why you're ghosting Jasmine?

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Speaker 6: Well, Jasmine's great, we have a really cool date. She

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Speaker 6: is attractive, lovely. But you know what I have come

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Speaker 6: decided for myself, no matter how good it's going. You know,

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Speaker 6: many times hoping that would come because everything else seems

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Speaker 3: Okay, wait, I don't like okay, okay, sorry, but it's

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Speaker 3: That's really disrespectful. I honestly want to like curse your

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Speaker 3: just because I'm actually polite. I don't understand why you

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Speaker 2: Right, And that's Jasmine's been. She's on the phone and

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Speaker 6: I got that.

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Speaker 3: You're so much of a romantic, Like, what do you mean?

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Speaker 3: How are you such a romantic? I hope everybody knows

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Speaker 3: upfront if you're a romantic, have common turtesty.

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Speaker 4: My biggest question for you, Ryan, though, is what made

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Speaker 3: Well, that is just a coward move tonnot even respond

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Speaker 6: So I thought it was better than me explaining all

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Speaker 3: and all of that. So I don't even think that's

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Speaker 3: like this is like, honestly just unbelievable. You shouldn't love

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Speaker 3: I wish you lucky find and somebody.

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Speaker 6: I hear it. I was embarrassed that I went so

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Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, well I really hope you learned your lesson

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Speaker 3: and don't pull such a coward and move on the

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Speaker 3: Like it's a little ridiculous. You should like don't. You

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Speaker 3: that's what they're trying to do, and you're going over

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Speaker 3: Like what are you doing with your life as a man?

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Speaker 4: Okay, I'm sorry. I have to jump in again really quick, Jasmine.

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Speaker 4: You're right, you shouldn't be ghosting you and all that stuff.

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Speaker 3: I don't think you understand.

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Speaker 4: No, actually I do. I completely understand. I have been

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Speaker 4: in your position. It's more about the relationship.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure. I'm just kind of hurt right now in

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Speaker 3: the situation, and it's just like I didn't expect him

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Speaker 3: to even answer.

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Speaker 2: I get that. We'll just leave it there, Desmin.

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Speaker 6: I want to be really clear. I think you're amazing.

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Speaker 6: I had a great time with you. It was it

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Speaker 6: was me after our date processing this and realizing, you

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Speaker 6: know what, I had gone too far and I didn't

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Speaker 6: feel something that I wanted to feel before I proceeded,

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Speaker 6: and you deserved better communication about that. But that that

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Speaker 6: those are the facts, and I didn't want.

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Speaker 3: To lead you on or any further whatever.

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Speaker 2: Ryan, would you like to go on another date with Jasmine?

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Speaker 2: We'll pay for it.

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Speaker 3: I would like to go on another date with you, Ryan.

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Speaker 2: Oh wait, what you would? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I would, absolutely you would. Okay, yes, yeah, what we what?

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Speaker 5: I'm busy tonight, But I do have a friend who

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Speaker 5: I swear I just I say, he came to mind,

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Speaker 5: but we went out.

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Speaker 3: I think you guys, actually I can.

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Speaker 6: Put you in cash, I swear.

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Speaker 3: No, really, okay, cool?

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, hey you guys, seems like it worked out.

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Speaker 5: Thank you?

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Speaker 2: All right cool.

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