1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: My guess is Coronalty. I mean, y'all, Tay can currently 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: be seen on the as a powerful attorney. I've seen 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,159 Speaker 1: this serious. I'm I'm in love with I can't wait 4 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: to start talking to him because the character is really edgy, 5 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: smart and little Street in her too. Um Attorney Steward 6 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: On who Lose Reasonable Doubt. She's in their star with 7 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: my board Michael Eally, we're talking about that relationship when 8 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: the interview starts to produced by and directed the pilot 9 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: episode by Cary Washington and also my man Larry mill Wilmore. 10 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: So she got a lot of names in this series 11 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: I'm very familiar with. She plays the character Jack's prosecutor, 12 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 1: who was also a wife and mother who is balancing marriage, 13 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: kids and a murder trial. I want to ask about 14 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: that marriage because I don't know if, but I don't 15 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: know what she's balancing there. Please welcome to Money Making 16 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: Conversation and master class the Incredible Star of Reasonable Doubt. 17 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: Now Aaron on Hulu. Emma Cornalty, how you doing Hello, 18 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: I'm doing great. Well. First of all, you know when 19 00:00:58,080 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: I when I see a face like it, because I'm 20 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: a t V person, the TV person and uh, and 21 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: as we go through this business, you know, you know, 22 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: you have scenes here and there. And so I started watching. 23 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 1: I got an early preview of the series they sentil 24 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: link and I'm watching it going she looks so familiar, 25 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: she looks so familiar, And so so I go back 26 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: to the bio and it says ballers, you know at 27 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 1: starring opposite Dwayne Johnson. So you were that representative for 28 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:28,559 Speaker 1: the NFL, like Players Association and Ballers Correct? Correct? Now, 29 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: when you when you get a role like that, because 30 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 1: that's you know, because you've worked with Miles Davis, my 31 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: Man David or Yellow you know, so you work with 32 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: a lot of individuals who command, you know, screen attention, 33 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: but you have to make your place on the screen 34 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 1: as well. Not someone not using the word being intimidated. 35 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: How do you prepare for these relationships, these own screen 36 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: relationships with actors of that magnitude. Um, well, I think 37 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: the best way that I've learned to prepare is just 38 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: by being prepared, doing my best work. Um, doing all 39 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: the work that I can leading up to, you know, 40 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: the first day of filming, because that gives you a 41 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: sense of freedom, you know, being able to relax and 42 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: being confident knowing that I've done my my partner to 43 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: this point. And then once you get on set, you 44 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: know it's time to play. You know, I'm I'm you know, 45 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: at my best, my co stars at their best, and 46 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: then it's just that's where all the fun happens, you know. 47 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: And so I think it's the preparation is what allows 48 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: you to have the confidence to just be. The preparations 49 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: just key, I'll be honest. I cannot act. You know. 50 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,679 Speaker 1: I started out my career my degrees in mathematics. I 51 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: I left IBM to pursue a career as a stand 52 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: up comedian. Um so I thought I was gonna be 53 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: the next day Murphree. Definitely was gonna be the next 54 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: Richard Pryor. And so you know, I found my niche 55 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: behind the screen, you know. And so so you know, 56 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: I produced talent Steve Harvery one of my clients, you know, 57 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: Steve and one of my clients, and so a lot 58 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: of you know, a lot of other clients that I 59 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 1: have on the roster. But that's that's where I was at. 60 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: And then you see a talent like a Washington who's 61 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: directing the pallet and we know what she can do 62 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: in front of the camera. Absolutely, What when you see 63 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: that is it? Is it preparing you for the next move, 64 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 1: maybe for you to be a producer or a director, 65 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: or what do you do when you see what Karrie 66 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: Washington is doing? Well, it's definitely inspirational, you know, to 67 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: see what Carry has done with her career and how 68 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: she navigates her career, you know, and to see her now, um, 69 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 1: fledgling out into different things like producing and and directing. Um, 70 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 1: it's very inspiring and encouraging and and surely it is 71 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: something that I would be interested in doing at some point, 72 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: because it's great to see someone like Carrie who is 73 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: taking charge of her career and who wants to just 74 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: do things. I'm in a different space outside of just acting. 75 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: She wants to, you know, put her hands in other things. 76 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: And I think it's fantastic. I heard the word taking charge, 77 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: you know. You know, I've always that was one of 78 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: the reasons why I stopped acting, where I stopped doing 79 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: stand up. I always felt I was auditioning and you know, 80 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: go in and I thought I killed the audition, and 81 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: then they come back well with somebody else, which is 82 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: really depressing. It's really depressing, but I always felt that 83 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: when I went behind the camera, I felt I had 84 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: a little bit more control. I felt, I know what 85 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: you're saying, but but let me say this though, because 86 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: I think that even as an actor you still have control. 87 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: There is still a sense of being in charge. It's 88 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: all about the power of no. That's what I've learned 89 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: in my career. You know, actors can sometimes think that 90 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: you just have to take every role, you have to 91 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: take every audition, but you don't. You do not. You 92 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: can navigate and create the kind of career that you 93 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: want to have and know that you do have the power. 94 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: You are in charge, and it doesn't necessarily mean that 95 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 1: you have to, you know, go and be a producer 96 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: or a writer to to be in charge of your 97 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: career as an actor. It's knowing that you have your 98 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: own agency to make your own choices. And I find 99 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 1: that that's the one thing that I realized. UM a 100 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,039 Speaker 1: lot of actors starting out, they think that, well, I 101 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: have to do this audition, I have to do what 102 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 1: my agent says. But you're paying them. You're paying them 103 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: to get to the kind of roles that you want. 104 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: These everyone is working on your team, so that you 105 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 1: can be the best that you can be. And so 106 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: I think once we as actors really realize that, that's 107 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: where the power comes and that's where the agency comes 108 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: in for you to create the kind of career that 109 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: you want, rather than sitting around and just waiting for 110 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 1: things to fall in your lap and then the next 111 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: thing you know, you looked up and you've got this 112 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: career that's not really what you wanted. Um, And so 113 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: there's there's a way to navigate, and it's by having control. Well, 114 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: let's go back a little bit before we really get 115 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: into Reasonable Doubt. Because of the fact that I see 116 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 1: a polished actress, I see a confident actress on Reasonable Doubt, 117 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: and I see an age actress. What did you're coming 118 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 1: out of high school? Was it? Did you college? Talk 119 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: about some of the steps that encourage you to realize 120 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: that this not only was a dream but possibly can 121 00:05:55,880 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: become a career. Well, you know, it's it's funny. There's 122 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: a reason why this is full circle for me in 123 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: terms of playing the character of Jack's on Reasonable Doubt, 124 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: was because she's this powerful defense attorney and I always 125 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,359 Speaker 1: thought I wanted to be an attorney when I first 126 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: you know, when I was as a kid and what 127 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: do I want to do? I think I want to 128 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: be a lawyer. Um. And so that was my dream, 129 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: you know, all the way up through high school and 130 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: you know now praying for college. And thankfully I realized early, 131 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: oh no, you don't want to be a lawyer, you 132 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 1: just want to play the lawyer. I realized I liked 133 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: the power of the strength in the core room. I 134 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 1: like the bad suits. I liked all of that, but 135 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: I liked nothing about the study of law, you know, 136 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: so before wasting all my money doing that, but it 137 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: was it was a real dream. It was my girlfriend 138 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: and I and we had already decided our firm was 139 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: gonna be core Naldi and Sweeney Incorporated. And um, I realized, okay, 140 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: you know what her name was, Tony, Tony, I think 141 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: I just want to be an actress. And she went 142 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: on to become an attorney. So we both found our space. Um. 143 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: But that was a pivot old moment for me because 144 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: I really realized, oh, you like the drama of being 145 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: an attorney, of being in that courtroom, you know. And 146 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: by that time I had already always, um done a 147 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: lot of you know, theater and summer theater and was 148 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: plays all that kind of stuff. But I didn't know 149 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: at that moment that I wanted to be an actor, um, 150 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: just yet. So it all kind of came together once 151 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: I made that realization in high school. And then from 152 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: there it was just full throttle throttle, just figuring it 153 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: out from there, you know, hitting the payment, all kinds 154 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: of you know, classes and auditions and everything and and 155 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: and that was there. We'll be right back with more 156 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. Now, let's return 157 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: to Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. Originally from Houston, Texas. 158 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: So I moved to New York pursuing my stand up, 159 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: coming to grind and I moved to l A pursuing 160 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: my career, and I did get levels of success and 161 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: I'm very proud to put on my resume today. But 162 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: again it's still it is that community that you have 163 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: to get with and people the hustle, you know, people 164 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: telling me about this audition, taking these classes, your chops, 165 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: When did you you know this is what we want 166 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: to do, But when you realize I could actually do it? Uh, 167 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: that's a good question. Um, I'm trying to think of 168 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: when with that moment I have hit me when I realized, okay, 169 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: you know what you can you can do this. Um. 170 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: I don't know nothing sticking out of my head, but 171 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: I do think there was a project that came and 172 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: there was a moment where I had a disagreement with 173 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 1: the director, and UM, I brought up my point of 174 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: view to the director and you know, he listened to 175 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: what have you, um, but he didn't think that it 176 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 1: was quite the right the right choice. But then later 177 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: on he realized it was the right choice. And I 178 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: mean later on you know that day we finished finished 179 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: filming and he came to me, he said, you were 180 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: absolutely correct, and I think you for coming to me. 181 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: And I even told him that gave me so much 182 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: confidence because it lets me know that I can trust 183 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: my instincts, UM, that I do have the courage to, 184 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,479 Speaker 1: you know, stand up for what I think is right, 185 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: you know, opposite someone who has all of this, this 186 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: experience and everything. UM. So it gave me a lot 187 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: of courage. And I think that would would be a 188 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: moment where I realized, you know, when you can't do this, 189 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: you can't. And I'm glad you answered that honestly, because 190 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: I tell people all the time, especially on this show, 191 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: whether it's listening on podcasts or watching the video on 192 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: YouTube or extreaming somewhere, is that that's the moment that 193 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: we all have in life, you know, when we have 194 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: a fear, you know, whether it changing jobs or you know, 195 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 1: because you can say that and other people on the 196 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: say the actress or actors will look at you, going, 197 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: she dripping, okay, she needed she needed chill, she would 198 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: need a cheer, She's not gonna be working no more. 199 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: Because that's the fear of what can happen in any job. Really, 200 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: you know, when you when you share your opinion, especially 201 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: when they said that this is how you want to go. 202 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: I remember I was working at IBM when I realized that, 203 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: and IBM, I said, when I realized that this is 204 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 1: how they wanted to do IBM, they didn't want any 205 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: extra new ideas. That went, that's not my job. I 206 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: gotta go. And so you live in a space where 207 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 1: you can't be creative. And I talked about your journey 208 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: because you know, now being the star or a serious 209 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: reasonable doubt, there is another level of responsibility to come 210 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: to that. So let's go to the part when they 211 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: said you are the one to screens. Oh my god. 212 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: I talk about the audition process and how many times 213 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 1: you went in. Did you put it on tape when 214 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:44,839 Speaker 1: you sit in? How did the guy? Did you get 215 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: this opportunity to be the start Reasonable Doubt, which is 216 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:53,079 Speaker 1: now on Hulu. Um, well, you know it's that. It's 217 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 1: just another story because um when it came to me, 218 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: I was already ready to do another project. It was 219 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 1: signed and delivered. In my opinion, you know, I was 220 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: this was it, this is what I was doing. I 221 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: had already had a yes, I was ready to sign 222 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: and that was that. And then my team brought this 223 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: and said you should take a look at this, and 224 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: I told them, no, I don't need to take a 225 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: look at this. This is what I'm doing. I'm fine 226 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: with this and that is it. But they were persistent, 227 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: and I think maybe about two weeks or so went 228 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: by and they said, you need to read this. We 229 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: liked this too, but we think that this is really 230 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: the one. Um. But I was gonna have to fight 231 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: for this one, and I just didn't know if I 232 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: wanted to fight for it. I had this one that 233 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,839 Speaker 1: was great. I'm gonna do that. UM. But once I've 234 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: read it that, I just changed everything. I saw what 235 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: they saw, UM, and I said, well, in me, you're 236 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: gonna have to just pull it out of you right 237 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: now and do it. Because I didn't feel like I 238 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: had it in that moment. I was in a space where, 239 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: you know, the other opportunity I had was great, and 240 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 1: you know, there was no need to have to go 241 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:02,079 Speaker 1: and fight for something else. And but once it became 242 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 1: clear that that's what I was gonna have to do, 243 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: that was it. That was it, you know. So I 244 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 1: went in. This is obviously during pandemic still, so everything 245 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: is zoom UM. And so I had an initial meeting 246 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: with UM, with with the team, with carry and everyone UM. 247 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: And then I did the first audition on tape and 248 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: UM in the middle of the audition and my camera 249 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: went out, bump went out, and I just said, you 250 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: know what, that's it. You just rest up the whole thing. 251 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 1: You should have just been up, you know, UM. And 252 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 1: you know, by the time it did come back going eventually, 253 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: and you know, I finished finish it, and after I finished, 254 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: I felt, you know what I mean, I think you 255 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: I think you got that. I don't know. I mean, 256 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: I know the camera went out. You know, I'm having 257 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: this whole internal monologue, but I felt like that like 258 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: I had, you know, and I went to my to 259 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: my prayer closet, as I tend to do, you know, 260 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 1: and just kind of left it there. And then I 261 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: find out that I remember maybe a few days after that, 262 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 1: and um, carry and everyone called me. And I didn't 263 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 1: know that's why they were calling me. I thought they 264 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: were just calling me, you know, and and uh, they 265 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: did the face some video and that's when they told 266 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: me I got the parts. And then not to mention. 267 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: I find out later from Ramla, you know when your 268 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: video went out, we already knew you had the part 269 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: by that time. You know, we had another lesson, you 270 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: know what I mean, just just trust the process, trust 271 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: what you what you're doing. Because she said, yeah, we 272 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: were all commenced. I was it. You didn't even need 273 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 1: to come back on the screen. Um. So that was 274 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 1: that was it. That was the process. The next thing 275 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: I know, we're gearing up to start filming. Okay, Loud, 276 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: did you know a little history about it? You know, 277 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: she didn't want to be a lawyers. She always wanted 278 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: to be a lawyer on TV. Okay had a law 279 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 1: firm all picked up. But guess what law firms picked 280 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: out on TV? Um this character you said, you said 281 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: you saw it. I gotta be This is a character 282 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta push myself. Talk tell us about 283 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: this character, ye that you play as the attorneys Atorney 284 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: Jack's as short, there's a nickname that it's called j 285 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: X on this show. And why you went, I gotta 286 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: be Attorney steward Man for the same reasons that all 287 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: of you have seen the show. When you watched the pilot, 288 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: That's what I felt when I when I read it, 289 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: it was just so exciting. Um it was. It had 290 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: a kinetic energy to it that I hadn't felt in 291 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: a long time. And this lead character, Jack's hadn't seen 292 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: a woman like her in this way on TV. You know, 293 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: we've thankfully, we've had a lot of strong black women 294 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: on TV, you know, especially the number one being you know, 295 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: um Carry with Olivia Pope or what happened. We've had 296 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: quite a few, um, but Jack's is very different. Jack 297 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: stands in a league of her own, and she's very 298 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: different from the others that we've had, and that attributed 299 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: to Ramla and the way that she's crafty, this this story, 300 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: in this world around Jack. You know, we get to 301 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: see her interpersonal life in a way that we don't 302 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: often get to see with black women, especially professional black women, 303 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: who are supposed to be just polished and put together 304 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: and you know, you don't have time for any of 305 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: the any of the mess, any rough ends. And we 306 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: get to see all of her you know, rough edges 307 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: and all of the mess and coming up part of 308 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: the seams. And that is what I love the most 309 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: about Jack's because that's that's life. You know. Those are 310 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: the women that I know who are trying to juggle 311 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: a marriage, a career, a family, you know, dynamics with 312 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: with your parents, you know, girlfriends, all of the things, 313 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: and maybe not holding all the balls up in the 314 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: air at the same time, you know, because that's part 315 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: of the burden of being a woman, and part of 316 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: the burden of being a black woman for sure, is 317 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: that we have to keep all the balls up in 318 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: the air. Um, So we get to see Jack trying 319 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: to figure out what happens when a few of them 320 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: start to fall. We'll be right back with more money 321 00:15:56,400 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: making conversations. Master Class with Rushan McDonald. Now let's return 322 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: to money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. There's three 323 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: friends of mine that you remind me of because of 324 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: their life. You know, high profile attorneys. I know that, 325 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: I know that culture surrounded by white men, you know, 326 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: want to be partners or our partners at these law firms. 327 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: But the part that really separates is that this is 328 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: a very sexually aware of character. So who she is, 329 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: and I think that's that's what really separates it from 330 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: a lot of other characters that you've seen white are 331 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: Black on TV, is that this character is willing to 332 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: go there and when that was part of the script, 333 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: what ran through your mind? And I'm not saying anything 334 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: selations anybody, but she knows what I'm talking about. This 335 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: is a character that understands she's beautiful, understand what she wants. 336 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: Sometimes she made demand what she wants and she will 337 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: be frustrated and she doesn't get what she wants and 338 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: later be known. But more importantly, that's what successful people do. 339 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: But usually there's a man that's doing it. In your case, 340 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: your woman, did that play on in your mind like that? Well? Yes, 341 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: you know because just being a woman, especially again a 342 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 1: black woman on TV. We don't get to live in 343 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: that kind of space, you know, generally is you know, 344 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: the the white actresses who get to have all of 345 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 1: the mess and everything going on and you know, sexually 346 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 1: free and what happened without any judgment and at times, um, 347 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: there there's judgment that can be attached, you know, And 348 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: so with this they're just there's such a relatability to 349 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: to Jack's you know, um that a lot of women 350 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: have said that they that they feel you know about 351 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 1: her in her um, in her freedom of being, you know, 352 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: very aware of her sexuality or what have you, you know, 353 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: and that's what is most exciting to me because women 354 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 1: are connected to that very thing, and that is the 355 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: very thing. When I read the script, I said, oh 356 00:17:56,359 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: my god, you know, because I'm not necessarily as you know, 357 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: free as that, um I look forward to to to 358 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: play with you know, because that is life, you know 359 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: what I mean. And we find ourselves in these situations 360 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: and what are you going to do it? So it's 361 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: fun to see how Jack's navigates the world. I love. 362 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: She said, say, look, I'm free, but ain't that it's free? 363 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: I'm not just freaking but I'll be stopping the streets. 364 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: This is a character I play with TV. Now, don't 365 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 1: be messing with me. Now, let's be clear. Let's be clear. 366 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: This is a character. Jack Stewart is a character I got, 367 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 1: I got, I got. I play a different car, different cars. 368 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 1: And that's what I love about the character. I love 369 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 1: about the fact that you know there there's a lot 370 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: of mystery with the men in your life too. Okay, 371 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 1: you know your husband there, I really don't understand him. 372 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 1: I really don't get him. And then Michael Eally, I 373 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 1: really don't understand him either. When you're in and then 374 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: when you're in the boardroom with the white men, they 375 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: ain't be nervous. There's a little edge to you, you know. So, 376 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 1: so if you can and you can kind of wrap 377 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 1: me up. First of all, the start with your not 378 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: trying to give away much of us the plot line 379 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: at all, but there is an interesting relationship with there. 380 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: We used the word marriage in here, but it's not 381 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: really a marriage in the story. And then Elie, who's 382 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: introduced basically in a lot of half of the pilot, 383 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 1: there's something dynamic there and he's he wants to leave jail. 384 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: And then the men that you work with. And then, uh, 385 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: you know, it's really I I would just tell you something. 386 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 1: Your skill level, it's fantastic. You do with a natural 387 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: confidence and sexuality that is not offensive. But we know 388 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: it's there. We know you, BEAUTI we know you. You 389 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: know you you struct your stuff while you have the 390 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 1: ability to do it. But it has nothing to do it. 391 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: I can be me. But it does impact your your husband, 392 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: it does impact this job, and also Michael Eally and 393 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 1: his decision making. Le's start with your husband. Well, you know, 394 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 1: I have to disagree with you when you say you 395 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 1: know that it's it's not a marriage. It is a marriage, 396 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,360 Speaker 1: and I think it represents a lot of the marriages 397 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: right now, you know where you just don't even know 398 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 1: anymore what's wrong. But something is wrong. You can't quite 399 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: put your finger on it. It's been so many things 400 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,719 Speaker 1: building up and it's just you you don't even know anymore. Um. 401 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: And that's kind of what what Jackson Lewis are going 402 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: through right now, you know. And and when the show starts, 403 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: they are separated, um, and they're trying to figure out 404 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: do they have something to get back too. But in 405 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: the midst of that they don't even know. They don't know, 406 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 1: you know. And that's what I love about the representation 407 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: of their marriage is because I think it's very realistic, 408 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 1: you know, because you just don't you you're you aren't 409 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 1: quite always able to put your finger on the thing. 410 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: It's not just you know, you didn't squeeze the toothpaste up, 411 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: you didn't put the toilet down. You know, it's a 412 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: it's a series of things that have now gotten you 413 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: to this point where you know, you're say it about 414 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 1: throwing it all the way. UM. And I do think 415 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 1: that Jackson's um her confidence, you know, Um, the very 416 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: things that make her the woman that she is in 417 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: her career can kind of cause a bit of friction 418 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,199 Speaker 1: in her marriage, you know, because she's she can just 419 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: steamroll and go, you know, straight ahead and not realize 420 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: that she may be hurting people in the process. UM. 421 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: And I think as it pertains to to to damon 422 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 1: you know, that's a relationship where you know, professionally, UM, 423 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 1: they have this this history, you know, and you start 424 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: to see over the course of the show, UM, a 425 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: lot of different things come out that are informing um 426 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 1: who they are where they are now. UM. So I'm 427 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: stillna leave the damon one right there. I'll tell you something, 428 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 1: my fans. I'm telling fans, listen to me now when 429 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 1: you watch reasonable Doubts starting Emmy, I'll take car nowity 430 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: it's oh Lou, you're gonna see the pile of problem. 431 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: The second episode would probably have air um for four 432 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 1: episodes apologize right, that's correct, and uh, I just I 433 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: just saw that they just sent them all to me, 434 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: and so I'm just watching them. So I don't know 435 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: when they're aired or not, but just don't currently on 436 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: Hulu right now streaming. Now the marriage, I want you 437 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: to tell me what y'all think of that marriage? Okay, 438 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 1: I want y'all tell I want y'all tell tell em 439 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: on on social media what y'all think of that? Man, 440 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: It's just isn't a traditional marriage. Isn't a typical marriage 441 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: like you just exposed to us on our show, Rishan said, maybe. 442 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: But more importantly, you, my friend, are a star. Let 443 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:44,959 Speaker 1: me go. Let me gonna get your flowers. Okay, get 444 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: your flowers. I can't take my eyes off on your screen. 445 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: That's a positive. I don't know who you are, and 446 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: that's a mystery to the character when I say that's 447 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 1: a good thing, because I don't know where you're going sometimes, 448 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: you know, I feel that your character exudes confidence and 449 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 1: Kennon inmidate, which is support the character is supposed to 450 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: do when you're certain environments and they don't want to 451 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: talk to you while you're there, and you and feel 452 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 1: compromised because women have been talking in a certain way 453 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 1: in the boys club, not they have a powerful female 454 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 1: in the room and they don't want to always talk 455 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,439 Speaker 1: like they want to talk in the boys club. But 456 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: what you're doing is changing television in a good way. 457 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: And uh, I can all I can say is being 458 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 1: the star of reasonable doubt working to a good friend 459 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 1: of mine Michael Eally, directed and produced by Kara Washington 460 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: Larry Willmore. You're surrounded by talent that people who have 461 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: a history of creative success, and you just shining light 462 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 1: for the next level of stars. Uh, not only with 463 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: your skin tone, I don't know what your your talent, 464 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: but not only with the ability to be able to communicate. 465 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: Do not stop and keep growing your brand. Thank you 466 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 1: so much. I appreciate that. Well, I appreciate more that 467 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: I can get to watch you and streaming Hulu. She 468 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: said my name correctly. I said her name colors the 469 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 1: way I think I think we want on this show. Right, listen, 470 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 1: we've really did so again Hulu. Reasonable doubts started. Mean, 471 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: y'all say Carnaldi and my boy Michael ellis coming in. 472 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: He's coming in strong. He's coming in strong. And I 473 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: worked with him and he did my two of my 474 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: movies Thinking like a Man, Thinking like a Man too. 475 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: That's our history. So y'all, you keep winning. We're talking 476 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: to it, okay, keep being the start. Thank you and 477 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 1: thank you for coming on. Money making a conversation masterclass