1 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King. 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:10,239 Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey 4 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and 5 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from the 6 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: Real Housewives franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in 7 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or 8 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: scripted as well. 9 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 2: Hey Rain dropped on today's episode of Reality with the King. Listen, 10 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 2: I am here with a new person because her last 11 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 2: name has avisually changed, So give it up for me. 12 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 3: Alexis Ballino, Jason. I'm not gonna say, are you keeping 13 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 3: ball What are we doing here? 14 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 4: Well, Hi, everybody, So, I'm I'm wearing a little this 15 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 4: is this is the party. Favorite's funny that they did 16 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 4: custom hats on that on this this this episode, because 17 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 4: this is what all of my guests got to leave 18 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 4: the wedding a custom cowboy hat. 19 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 5: Look at that from the Rancher Hat company. 20 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 4: In that cute Yeah, because we were doing a whimsical 21 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 4: rustic wedding, so whimsical rustic cowboy is perfect for that 22 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 4: but so with the name we are. 23 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 5: I am legally Alexis Jansen, but for work. 24 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,559 Speaker 4: For right now, we're trying to like, Yeah, it's gonna 25 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 4: be hard because it's like people won't know Alexis Janson. 26 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 4: You know, I'm known for Blino. So we'll it will 27 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 4: we'll face it in kind of like tamer did. I 28 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 4: think Tamara took a year or. 29 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 5: So to do it, So we'll see how We'll see 30 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:44,279 Speaker 5: how fully. 31 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: Because because obviously Tamra's professional name, I think for the 32 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 2: rest of our career will be Tamar Judge. 33 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 3: But legally it's it's one an Eddie last name. 34 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 4: No, it's je No, Tamar when she married Eddie was 35 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 4: Tamarra Barney and had been that for ten or twelve 36 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 4: years however long she'd been married to Simon and then 37 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 4: and then she you know, married Eddie Judge and it 38 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 4: took it took her time. She didn't do it right away. 39 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 4: I think she's told me a year or more a 40 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 4: little more. So we're just we're gonna slow roll it 41 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 4: in eventually. 42 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 3: Well look, but it works. Yeah, but. 43 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 5: Alexis Jansen sounds good together. 44 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 2: No, I think so too, And I would say I 45 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 2: really thought Tama just has been her name since she 46 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 2: got on the on the freaking show. 47 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 3: So there you go, honey. 48 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:36,519 Speaker 2: It does work when you change it, and you when. 49 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 4: I first started filming with her, she was Tama Barney 50 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 4: for the first three years or yeah, because then on 51 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 4: your four she married Eddie. 52 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 5: I went to the wedding or no, it was a year. 53 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 4: I don't remember, but anyways, I went to the wedding 54 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 4: and then she was still Tama Barney for a little 55 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 4: bit longer. And I've asked her before. I think she 56 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 4: said a year, so we'll see. 57 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, and I know how was the. 58 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 5: Wed the birthday weekend? 59 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 3: Real quick? 60 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 2: Oh? The birthday was amazing. I was in Cabo. We 61 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 2: had a great time. I had so much fun. It 62 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 2: was great, like absolutely zero complaints, like whatsoever, Right, this 63 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 2: is my tradition, is what I do. So we had 64 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 2: a really, really good time. It was nice just to 65 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 2: be off the grid. So brain drops, thanks for hanging 66 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 2: in there, because they're like, where's. 67 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 3: Your episode of oh see? 68 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 2: And I recorded it later I'm like, there's no Alexis 69 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 2: and I'm bored. But you know, listen, I could keep 70 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 2: my own some company. But it's better when I have 71 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 2: you with me. So I'm happy that we are back 72 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 2: in your wedding. Oh my gosh, the pictures from People magazine, 73 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 2: your Instagram page as well, it looks so beautiful and 74 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 2: the best part about it to me, just to be 75 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 2: honest with you, it looked very intimate, like it like 76 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 2: it was only for the people that you guys wanted there. 77 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 4: You know, we started at eighty but that was barely 78 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 4: like family and first group of friends, and then we 79 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 4: got up to one hundred and fifty and that was 80 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 4: way more than we actually wanted, but it was still intimate, 81 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 4: and we did we did want something rustic. My last 82 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 4: wedding was black tie every you know, tuxedos, everything black. 83 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 4: So this wedding I asked for no black. I wanted 84 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 4: things that matched the canyon and the drop. 85 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 5: Setting that we had. 86 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 4: We had done the wedding end and then we had 87 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 4: instead of rows of seating, we did a circle of love, 88 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 4: so everybody was in a circle around all the guests 89 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 4: were in a circle. 90 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 5: Around John and I. 91 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 4: So that was a whole new concept and my wedding 92 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 4: planner was not nervous about it at all, although we 93 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 4: were because we were like, is this even possible? 94 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 5: Is it going to work out? Okay? 95 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 4: Can everybody still see us? And it won all it was. 96 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 4: It was beautiful, It is amazing, so. 97 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 3: Good, good, good, So listen. 98 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 2: I want to ask you this before we get into 99 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 2: recapping the latest episode of The Real House Wash of 100 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 2: Orange County. I'm not sure if you've seen this or not, 101 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 2: but heaf of the bro was on Wash What Happens 102 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 2: Live last night and a fan did ask her if 103 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 2: she attended your wedding. She said that she was invited, 104 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 2: but that it was parents weekend and that although she's 105 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 2: close to you, she is close to Shannon, and that 106 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 2: she did a little bit weird, but she said, you know, 107 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 2: she wished to do the best. 108 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 3: Yeah. 109 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 4: I saw it, and I'm a little perplexed by it. 110 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 4: I haven't I haven't texted her or reached out yet. 111 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 5: But it's funny. 112 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 3: Because I. 113 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 4: Don't understand it because we've gone to dinner with them 114 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 4: several times, and I guess maybe it's a work friendship 115 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 4: that I didn't think it. 116 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 5: I thought we had a deeper friendship than that. 117 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 4: But it's it's a kind of an awkward answer that 118 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 4: she gave, and it sounded like, you know, like a 119 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 4: couple of watch what happened live ago when she was 120 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 4: trying to get me on the show. She said, well, 121 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 4: I talked to Alexis more than I talked to Shannon, 122 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 4: and now all of a sudden, yeah, she's filming with 123 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 4: Shannon and I'm not filming. But we still just texted 124 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 4: a couple of days ago and even a couple of 125 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 4: days before that, and then she wished me well on 126 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 4: my wedding day or after right after. I mean, it's like, so, 127 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 4: I don't I know, we're both really busy. I was 128 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 4: very perplexed by it, Carlos, to be honest, and I'm 129 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 4: still I'm still kind of thrown off because I just 130 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 4: heard it, you know what, ten hours ago last night 131 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 4: after hed So yeah, I don't know. I have to 132 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 4: get to the bottom of that. But yeah, it's awkward 133 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 4: and weird. And she was very excited when she was 134 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 4: knowing that she was, you know, when she found out 135 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 4: we were get engaged. I even have to ask her 136 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 4: to sing. I was like, do you want to sing 137 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 4: at my wedding too? And she was like, oh my gosh, 138 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 4: I was too stressful at Tamra's wedding. I don't want 139 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 4: to do it again, and so you know, I don't know. 140 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:20,239 Speaker 4: I'm thrown off a little. 141 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 3: So no, I could tell. 142 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 2: I could tell no, Lessen, You're always honest, and I 143 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 2: could tell and Listen, I will. 144 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 3: Say this because we've been doing this. Oh my gosh, Pa, 145 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 3: how many. 146 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 2: Months now, and even last year when I was talking 147 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 2: to you about the show, and again, based on our 148 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 2: conversations a year ago, up until right now, it always 149 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 2: appeared that listen, you, her and Tamra seemed to be 150 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 2: the closest of the cast, and even even after the reunion, 151 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 2: you were honest about my listen, me having Tamra had 152 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 2: a conversation. I don't like things that I saw, but 153 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 2: we were able to work through it. And I've seen 154 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 2: pictures of you guys together since then. I've seen double 155 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 2: dates since then. When she described your relationship that appeared 156 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 2: to be a working friendship, I'll say this much. I 157 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 2: had no idea and I watched the show colored me 158 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 2: surprised that Heather's close to Shannon. 159 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 3: I as a viewer, I was like. 160 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't know that you and Shannon were close. 161 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 2: I know that heathern and Tamar are close, and they've 162 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 2: they've had their issues in the last episode, but I 163 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 2: was surprised. 164 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 3: I wanted to make sure to ask you because I 165 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 3: don't know. 166 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 2: I felt icky about it when I when I saw 167 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 2: the response to me, felt very cold and very dry 168 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 2: and listen, I'm not saying that, you know, you forego 169 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 2: your parents weekend for your kids' kids come first, But 170 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 2: I did feel that the response after that was weird. 171 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 2: The parents think, okay, fine, the response after that when 172 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 2: she said she was closer to Shannon, I was like, 173 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 2: I found that out today and I was. 174 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 4: I had the exact same knee jerk reaction you just said. 175 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 4: I mean, when I was watching it, I was like, huh, 176 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 4: Like it was like the I mean, it was so 177 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 4: it was just it did feel icky, but it also 178 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 4: felt like calculated and weird, Like I don't know, there 179 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 4: was something weird about it, Like the whole thing is 180 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 4: like it's like that's it didn't even sound like how 181 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 4: they're really like, like, that's not how howther and I 182 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 4: talk on the phone. 183 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 5: So, so did something happen that I don't know about. 184 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 4: I mean, we do have a couple episodes left to 185 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 4: see on the show still I mean like, I'm like, 186 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 4: you know, and that's probably when I'm in a text her, 187 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 4: I'm gonna be like. 188 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 5: Weird, ears up, like what what was that about? Like 189 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 5: what that doesn't sound like you? 190 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 4: And it doesn't sound like how we've talked on the 191 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 4: phone and the friendship that we have. I mean, yeah, 192 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 4: I haven't seen you in quite a few months, but 193 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 4: I'm planning a wedding and you're off traveling to four 194 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 4: different schools for your kids and filming a TV show. 195 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 4: I get it, but it's like the whole thing was 196 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 4: just bizarre. So I'll stay tuned. I'll try to get 197 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 4: to the bottom of it. But yeah, change and reality 198 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 4: TV does do weird things to you. 199 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 5: And so if the alliance has to shift and she 200 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 5: has to. 201 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 4: Go all the way that way, then you know whatever 202 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 4: I mean then that we really weren't friends to begin with. 203 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 4: And I'm trust you me, I've got plenty of people 204 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 4: that are real and true and those are the people 205 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 4: I want around. So at the end of the day, 206 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 4: whatever happens was meant to be. So that's how I 207 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 4: look at it. 208 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 3: That's it. 209 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 2: And listen, at the end of the day, you married 210 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 2: the love of your life and that is the concentration 211 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 2: that you should be feeling anyway. And I just want 212 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 2: to say this as your friend, I'm so happy for you. 213 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 2: You know, I always tell people love does come around 214 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 2: a second time for people who really had to just 215 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 2: remind themselves that, look, this may not have worked out, 216 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 2: but it doesn't means the end of me finding love. 217 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 3: So I'm happy for you. 218 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 2: You are such a good girl, and I in the 219 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 2: smiles that I saw in the pictures and not only 220 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 2: from you, and job with the kids, and that's all 221 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 2: that matter, that's. 222 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 3: All that mat earth And congratulations. 223 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 5: Thank you, Thank you so much. 224 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 4: No, I think the number one key to finding love 225 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 4: a second time around is number one. You can't stay 226 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 4: bitter about the past and about what has happened. They're 227 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 4: transpired in other relationships and you can't bring your baggage 228 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 4: to the next relationship. 229 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 5: But you have to be open minded. And you know, 230 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 5: I'm shocked. 231 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 4: And it came when John and I were both broken 232 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 4: and not thinking we were going to ever find love 233 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 4: like that, and there it was. It's like God has 234 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 4: his own plan. So hang in there, everybody looking for 235 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 4: that second time around or. 236 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 3: Third Yeah, there you go. There you got to go, 237 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 3: so listen. Speaking up. 238 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 2: This second time around, we have Gretchen and Emily meeting 239 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 2: up again after last week's episode where we saw that 240 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 2: Emily told Tamera, look, I'm gonna be honest with you. 241 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 2: We had a conversation about the person we trust the 242 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 2: least and me and Heather said it was you. And 243 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 2: we didn't recap last week's episode obviously, but I will 244 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 2: say this, I and I get in so much trouble 245 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 2: for just being honest, but I just have to do 246 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 2: my job. I was even shocked when Heather told Tamra, 247 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 2: I do trust you the least, and I do feel 248 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,719 Speaker 2: like you know, you may say things about me. We're 249 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 2: now on the same page, and I just thought like Tamra, 250 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 2: in my opinion, has only defended herself for people that 251 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 2: she has beep with, and it as a way to 252 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:42,319 Speaker 2: defend herself. So anyways, in this episode, Gretchen meets with. 253 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. 254 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 2: Emily meets with Gretchen to talk to her about what 255 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 2: happened at Tamar's house and to also stay back look. 256 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,839 Speaker 2: Tamar wants to meet with Katie to get down to 257 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 2: the bottom of it, and Emily was not happy about it, 258 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 2: and Gretchen seemed to be pissed. 259 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 3: I meet really knew this, and I said this. 260 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 2: Last week Alexis, Katie knows information that Gretchen does not 261 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 2: want to come out. 262 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 3: And now now rain drops, I will say this. 263 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 2: I now am on Katie's side because it's obvious that 264 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 2: Slade and Gretchen purposefully I stout Katie. 265 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 3: Because she knew the truth. 266 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 2: She knew the truth, and that's why Gretchen and Jen, 267 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 2: who I think is still innocent in all of this, 268 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 2: worked together to foot of Like I saw, Katie, what 269 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 2: do you think? 270 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 4: Well, the funny thing is is that you know, you 271 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 4: think that the truth would always be what the girls 272 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 4: want to hear. But in season eighteen, which I was 273 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 4: the friend of, they had all the truth right laid 274 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 4: out right in front of them. I had the evidence, 275 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 4: I had the proof, the attorneys had the proof. We 276 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 4: had the paperwork showing that John Pays were more than 277 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 4: the other girl, the the other person. But it's like, 278 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 4: it's like the girls don't really care about the truth, 279 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 4: is what I'm finding out now watching season nineteen two. 280 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 4: What they care about is doing what either the storyline 281 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 4: is supposed to be doing. Or they they want to 282 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 4: ice someone out for whatever personal reason they have on 283 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 4: that person, they don't want to really listen to the truth. 284 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 5: So that's another ick factor. 285 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 4: Carlos, maybe we need to say this episode is called 286 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 4: the Ick, But like, you know, I don't know, it 287 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 4: just feels it feels off to me. It feels like, 288 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 4: how can people not see the truth? 289 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 5: I don't. 290 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 4: I mean, I can see it watching it as a second, 291 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 4: you know, sitting back being objective to the show, not 292 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 4: being like I used to be on a TV show, 293 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 4: but like just being. 294 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 5: Objective about it. It's like wow. 295 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 4: But I feel they don't care about the truth and 296 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 4: they just they do want to ice Katie out. And 297 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 4: I think that, Yeah, maybe the girls are rallying around 298 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 4: Gretchen for whatever reason, but I think deep down the 299 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 4: girls know that that what was said that night at 300 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 4: Mastros or whatever restaurant they were at with Katie, that 301 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:01,959 Speaker 4: it Katie is telling the truth. I do believe deep 302 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 4: down the women think that Katie's telling the truth on 303 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 4: this one. 304 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 2: Oh, I think so too. And I think so too. 305 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 2: And look, I think what I've always said for years 306 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 2: from this podcast that always sort of like made social 307 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 2: media upset, I don't only give a shit. Was the 308 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 2: fact that these shows are built on alliances, and we 309 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 2: just talked about that earlier. It is so obvious that 310 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 2: what feels icky and disjointed election that you're feeling. And 311 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 2: that's the reason why I'm so happy to be having 312 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 2: this conversation with you, because you were a part of 313 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 2: that show. You know these women, and you know that 314 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 2: world of being a reality star. Even you can can 315 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 2: tell that things feel icky, and the ickness is the 316 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 2: fact that it's selective. Outrage is not a situation of look, 317 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 2: this is black or white, this is this is obviously 318 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 2: an attempt to take someone down despite my life for them. 319 00:14:58,560 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 3: It is what it is. 320 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 2: And I think when it comes to Katie, the reason 321 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 2: why Emily has a heart on for her is because 322 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 2: and listen, I said this from day one. 323 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,359 Speaker 3: I one thousand and ten percent. 324 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 2: Believe that Emily was talking shit about Heather around her 325 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 2: kids and the nanny. Like I believe it because guess 326 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 2: what it happens sometimes I think parents sometimes forget that 327 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 2: the kids already their earshot. 328 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 3: And you say shit over the phone. I don't think she. 329 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 2: Said it to the kids, Like guess what that woman 330 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 2: Heather's is of whatever. I think she was having a 331 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 2: free conversation and the kids overheard it, and that's okay. 332 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 2: And I think they iced out Katie because they just 333 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 2: don't want the truth to be revealed, which is why 334 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 2: I thought it was so funny that Gretchen called Emily 335 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 2: a popstorer and she got offended and she left, And 336 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 2: it's sort of. 337 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 3: Like Emily your potstorer. 338 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 4: Like you actually watched Are seven seasons over again a 339 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 4: few seasons ago and keep seeing how much of the. 340 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 3: Stirring is going on exactly. You have a pot line 341 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 3: at Williams Sonoma. You are a podstarer. 342 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 6: You know what. 343 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 4: I respect people who just go, yeah, I am like 344 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 4: when people say you're kind of dizzy. 345 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, I graduated with like. 346 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 4: A four something from Bachelors of Marketing, But yeah I 347 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 4: am dizzy sometimes. Okay, so I got a brain. But 348 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 4: I'll own it and I'll laugh about it. It's like 349 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 4: you could own it and not like get offended. If 350 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 4: you get offended, you know what it means. It's true 351 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 4: if you don't get offended and you go, I am 352 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 4: not a potst or whatever. If you think that woul are, 353 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 4: then you're not it's not true, you know what I mean, 354 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 4: it's like your reaction. So the reactions tell it all 355 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 4: for me. Like you know, people call me ditzy. I 356 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 4: don't go I am not diffyt and walk off, you know, 357 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, I say funny things sometimes and I'm. 358 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 5: Like, wait, did I say that really? And I didn't 359 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 5: mean that. 360 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 4: You know, my brain was going faster than my I mean, 361 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 4: my mouth is going faster than my brain, And I like. 362 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 2: No, But I think that's that's what's so charming about you, 363 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 2: sort of like just all who you are. I like 364 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 2: the fact that you know camera's sort of like, look, 365 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 2: I was I was a big a bit in that moment. 366 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 2: I was angry or or yes, in this moment, that's 367 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 2: who I am. 368 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 3: I like it when the women are able to say 369 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 3: just that. 370 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 2: And I think Emily has the only fact that listen, 371 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 2: you are poster but you're also as reality star doing 372 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 2: your job, and I'm I'm not upset with it. I'm 373 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:37,360 Speaker 2: only upset with Alexis and I can both see that 374 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 2: you ladies aren't being normal because you're trying to ice 375 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 2: out somebody and you're trying to build upon an alliance 376 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 2: based on your likeness of somebody, not even a friendship, 377 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 2: it's the likeness. 378 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 4: I think what they're doing right now is they know 379 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 4: that season twenty is a big season, and there's been 380 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 4: rumors that there's going to be a huge recast. 381 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 5: Okay, I think what the. 382 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 4: Women are doing is figuring out exactly who they want 383 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 4: to work with next year, and they're trying to build 384 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 4: that cast on their own by saying, Okay, I'm gonna 385 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 4: ice this person out because we don't want her. I'm 386 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 4: going to ice this person out because we don't want her, 387 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 4: and we're all going to act like we're friends. By 388 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 4: the way, none of. 389 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 5: Them are really friends. 390 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 3: Can you see it? 391 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 4: It's like every last episode we didn't get to recap 392 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 4: on college that would have been thirteen, it's fourteen now 393 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 4: last episode. In this episode, it is so clear as 394 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 4: day that there is so much strife and just like 395 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 4: none of them really really have a friendship. They're just 396 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 4: really there to do a job. And the problem with 397 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 4: that is you can't just have a TV cast only. 398 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 4: There has to be some genuine true friendships in the 399 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,199 Speaker 4: cast to also then bring in some of just the 400 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 4: TV friendships you don't have to be good friends with 401 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 4: all of them. But the best time the TV show 402 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 4: looks and works good, in my opinion, is when there 403 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 4: are a couple that are you know, are true die 404 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 4: hard friends. 405 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 5: And they still get in the tips and do that. 406 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 4: But I meant, watching the last two episodes, I'm like, 407 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 4: there is I just know. It's like it's so much fighting, 408 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 4: it's so much combative and so much Oh, let's act 409 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 4: like we're friends now, even though I'm mad at you 410 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 4: about this and I don't know. It just seems like 411 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 4: there's no real glue or gel to any of it. 412 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 4: But that's why I think the women are trying to 413 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 4: behind the scenes, yeah, and behind production kind of like, go, 414 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 4: this is who we want to film with next season. 415 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 4: So here's here's what we're laying it out for you. 416 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 4: Here's what we're gonna do, and we're gonna fake everything else. 417 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 4: I saw people that don't even need to be iced 418 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 4: out and do have some truth being told because this 419 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 4: is what we want our cast to look like. 420 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 5: That's what I feel. 421 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 3: I have AHA moment, and you don't have to say anything. 422 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 3: This is my opinion. Based on what you just said, 423 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 3: I now understand why Heather said what she said and 424 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 3: watch What Happens Live about her and Shanna being closed. 425 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:53,919 Speaker 2: I actually agree with everything you said about these women 426 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 2: are trying to make it appear that I'm friends with 427 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 2: this per so that we all can go together for 428 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 2: season twenty, because season twenty is such an important season 429 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 2: that news flash, rain drops. 430 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 3: I'm gonna save this to you now. 431 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 2: This is not me having insider information, it's just me 432 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 2: being a producer. 433 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 3: You will not see the same cast next season. 434 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 4: Oh just what, Carlos, There's no way I could do 435 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 4: this cast next season because, like I just told you 436 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 4: watching last episode that we didn't get to talk about, 437 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 4: there's no glue. 438 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 5: There's no like true friendships. 439 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 4: There's no And also it's gotten so dark and nasty 440 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 4: between so many of them that it's like there's gotta 441 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 4: be some kind of you know, like just two or 442 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 4: three episodes ago that we were podcasting about together or 443 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 4: recapping on, I felt like there was some fun and 444 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 4: some some light. You saw some light and not such 445 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 4: a dark thing. But I feel like the last two 446 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 4: episodes are just like it's just fighting. Even though they 447 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 4: sold some charity work and they showed, you know, the 448 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 4: girls getting ready at their houses and the dog's psychic 449 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 4: was funny and fun and cute, but it's like there's 450 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 4: just too much not getting a long list, too much 451 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,199 Speaker 4: batting and not seeing eye to eye or even like 452 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 4: trying to. Like, let's talk about Tamara and Heather. They're 453 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 4: not seeing eye to eye at all. And this is 454 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 4: what makes me the maddest about the whole thing is 455 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 4: Tamar was that last year nineteen when Teddy first got diagnosed, 456 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 4: Tamar was so broken. I'm talking like, like, can nobody 457 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 4: understand how hurt she was and how hard that is 458 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 4: to know that your best friend they didn't have. You know, 459 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 4: Teddy's got a better you know, look it's looking better 460 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 4: now or whatever. 461 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 5: But it's like it's like you don't know what Tamer 462 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 5: was going through. 463 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 4: I think they would if you think you're one of 464 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 4: your best friends is really really really really really really 465 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 4: sick and possibly fighting for their life. And it's like 466 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 4: none of the women gave two shits. Pardon my French, 467 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 4: I'm not cussing. I you know, I say that every time, 468 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 4: But nobody gave a care about that, And all they 469 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 4: did was just to want to still tell tear Tammar down. 470 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 4: And it's like Tamara has not been that awful to 471 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 4: these women, more awful than they've been to everyone else 472 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 4: on the show. 473 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:54,360 Speaker 5: Every single one of these women. 474 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 4: If we go back and we recap any of the 475 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 4: other up, we could go back Carlowshu and I and 476 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 4: we could go, oh remember this scene, would you know 477 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 4: when she called Shannon a bad parent and said that 478 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 4: the government was going to or was that Shannon Degina whatever. 479 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 4: But I'm saying, each person, what my point to this was, 480 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 4: each cast member, we could go around and say you 481 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 4: were not a good person at that point. 482 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 5: You have been bad, You have been naughty, you have 483 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 5: been mean, and you have been dirty. And now it's 484 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 5: all going on Tamor's shoulders. 485 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 4: When Tamara was having the hardest year of her life 486 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 4: and nobody gave a crap about it, That's the part 487 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 4: that bothers me. 488 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 5: And it's not because I'm buddy buddy with Tamara. 489 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 4: I'm saying, as I'm being an objective viewer, if somebody 490 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 4: else had gotten in a car accident, Oh my god, 491 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 4: like they wrapped around talk about a car accident. 492 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 5: Shannon got a dui, They wrap around her. They sure 493 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 5: care about her. But then and that's her. 494 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 4: Own, you know, on her own, she decided to do 495 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 4: that and made that choice. 496 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,880 Speaker 5: Tama's going through something she has no control over. 497 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 4: But then they don't want to give her any kind 498 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 4: of love or support like organic or true because you know, 499 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 4: Heather tried to act like she was, but you could 500 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 4: tell that she wasn't really hearing Tamora, and Tamara wasn't 501 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 4: really hearing Heather. I mean, I understand where Heather was, 502 00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 4: like I was trying to explain to you and open up 503 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 4: to you about my dad. But Tama is not in 504 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 4: a place to go deep with someone right now. Tamora 505 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 4: was in a play at that moment. I think Tamor 506 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 4: is in a place she needs a hug. Tamar needs 507 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 4: somebody just to cry on someone's shoulder, and none of 508 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 4: the women gave her that. 509 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 5: They just keep coming at her. I don't know. 510 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 3: I agree with you. 511 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:15,439 Speaker 5: I don't know how she did it. 512 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 4: This is why I know why she quit, because I 513 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 4: would be on the other end of the line with 514 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 4: her crying or when she's crying about it. I can 515 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 4: see why she would want to quit, like there's no 516 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 4: support in her darkest hour you know it's horrible. 517 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 2: No, I agree with you, and listen, I was fucking 518 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 2: to Tamar while she was going through the things with 519 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 2: Teddy because you know me, me, Tamara and Teddy we 520 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 2: are friends and even like I think two years ago, 521 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 2: this is right, but this is really like maybe months 522 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 2: before Teddy was diagnosed with having the cancerous tumors, we 523 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 2: were going to go on tour, not not not not 524 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 2: a tour, but we got a tour stop in the 525 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 2: o C. And around that time we were talking. And 526 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 2: then after that, you know, you know we don't have 527 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 2: with Teddy. But Tama was very emotional, and look, I 528 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 2: also think this. 529 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 3: I agree with you that. 530 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 2: Look, each of those women have had moments where they 531 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 2: weren't the best of friends with each other. I told 532 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 2: Tama to her ears, okay, you were not nice to Shannon, 533 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 2: and when she was going through it, sorry, and she's like, 534 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 2: but Carlos. 535 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:23,719 Speaker 3: Then you know she gave her reasons. 536 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 2: I said, I understand it, but you also have to 537 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 2: understand this. 538 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 3: She is going through something so. 539 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 2: Horrific that it doesn't matter what you may know and experience. 540 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 3: In this moment. 541 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 2: What happened was horrific, and I understand why the audience 542 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 2: had a reaction. They all jumped on Tama's throw for 543 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 2: that at the reunion. I find it quite funny that 544 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 2: now Tamra, like you said, she didn't do anything self inflicted. 545 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 2: Her best friend, co host of their hit podcast, has 546 00:24:54,119 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 2: cancer bring to marks in the hospital, and she's she 547 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 2: obviously seems a bit off emotionally. 548 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 3: Tamra does on the show. 549 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 2: Give her some grace for this moment, whether or not 550 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 2: the audience thing she deserves it. Whatever, because the audience 551 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 2: has selective outrage based on their favorites. 552 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 3: It is what it is. 553 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 2: But I just think, at the end of the day, 554 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,199 Speaker 2: this is my opinion. I don't think Heather is friends 555 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 2: with anybody on that show. I think Heather's friends are 556 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 2: a Beverly Hills and that's that's. That's she The logitective 557 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 2: tests confirmed that she wants to be there. She she 558 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 2: It is what it is, and that's why I said 559 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 2: last week, Tamra and these girls are not your friends. 560 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 2: I think the only friends on that show this season, honestly, 561 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 2: by being real, will always be Emily and Gina. I 562 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 2: think they're like each other. 563 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 3: That's it. That's that. 564 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 2: The rest of them. I see, we're here to work. 565 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 2: It's an alliance and that's that. So I actually agree 566 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 2: with you on that one. I want to move on though, 567 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 2: because Katie came back in this episode. 568 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 3: And Tamara said, look this, we're gonna sit. 569 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 2: Down and have a Ponderosa and Alexis we have to 570 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 2: get into the revelation that Katie revealed. Katie pretty much 571 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:22,439 Speaker 2: told Tamra that Slade pretty much orchestrated all of this. 572 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 2: That Slade told Matt that Katie needs to stick to 573 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 2: the story because it's. 574 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 3: A legal issue. 575 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,679 Speaker 2: Is that Katie no, And we'll get to what happened 576 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 2: later because everything sort of and rain drops. I want 577 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 2: you guys to be able to always watch this show 578 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 2: and kind of see like how everything comes together full circle. 579 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 2: I believe Katie. I believe that Slade said that to Matt. 580 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 2: It all makes sense to me. And that's the one 581 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 2: thing they did not want to come out, is the 582 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 2: fact that I do believe that Gretchen allegedly did tell 583 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:06,679 Speaker 2: Haiti and Jin that Tama drugged her. 584 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,239 Speaker 3: I believe it. I believe I believe it too. 585 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 4: I believe I did too, and it's I I think, 586 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 4: I mean, give it time. Maybe we'll find out more 587 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 4: than you know. Maybe there'll be more about this on 588 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 4: the next couple episodes. I'm not sure, but like it's 589 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 4: interesting to me how once again there's evidence like that 590 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 4: that text that Katie showed does show that, Okay, I 591 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 4: was saying, I'll cover up for you. I promise I'll 592 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 4: cover up for you. But it's like, there's the evidence. 593 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 4: The proof is in the pudding. It's right there, and 594 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 4: and people are deciding to turn the other way. 595 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 5: So I I it's so baffling. 596 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 4: And and you know, that's why I do think it 597 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 4: does need a recast. I think it's going to be 598 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 4: good to have a recast and and keep some and 599 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 4: get rid of some or whatever they want to do 600 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 4: or start all rush again. 601 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 5: I don't know, but but I. 602 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 4: Just feel like because of the fact that no one's 603 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 4: really looking at the true or believing what's really out 604 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 4: like that what's right in front of her eyes, I 605 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 4: feel like it's just it's it's hard to watch it, Carlos, 606 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 4: you know, because you're sitting there going but wait, but wait, 607 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:11,919 Speaker 4: you want to like come through the screen and be like, 608 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 4: but look look at what's right here, Like you know, 609 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 4: and the poor Katie. 610 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,919 Speaker 5: Because not poor Katie. She kind of caused herself, but 611 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 5: she lied. 612 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 4: At the beginning a couple of times that that that 613 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 4: really have hurt her. 614 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 5: The feeling that the women can ever trust her again, 615 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 5: it has her. 616 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, the boy who cried Wall you know what I mean, 617 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 2: It is my best story. 618 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 619 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 4: You and I both said before just because you've lied 620 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 4: once or twice doesn't mean you lie all the time. 621 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 5: It doesn't. 622 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 4: Maybe she has learned, maybe I feel like for me, 623 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 4: for Katie, when she first got on the show, she 624 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 4: was like a deer in headlights. I've said this on 625 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 4: another podcasts with you, and I think that she's learning 626 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 4: now and she's kind of getting her getting her footing, 627 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 4: you know a little bit more, because she even even 628 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 4: though she's broken right now, that conversation she had with 629 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 4: Tamra at the at the restaurant or the bar or whatever, 630 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 4: I feel like she even seemed like she was more poised, 631 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 4: broken but poised, but like like she's getting it a 632 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 4: little bit more now, Like now she's like, look, I 633 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 4: am so sick of covering up for people, and you know, 634 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 4: YadA YadA. But so I think that that's what has 635 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 4: to happen. I think that the recast, but I think 636 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 4: that the women are never going to believe Katie now. 637 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 4: I think she's unfortunately, but I'm with you. I agree 638 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 4: that Katie's telling the truth on this one, one hundred percent. 639 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 3: Yes. 640 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 2: No, It's crazy to me because I love Gretchen. I've 641 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 2: been watching OC since season two. When Gretchen came on, 642 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 2: I was like, who is this bat chick? 643 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 3: I love her. I don't care if her man is 644 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 3: this age. I'm like, I'm like Gretchen, Gretchen is so 645 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 3: likable and what's funny? Gorgeous? And I was like, yay, 646 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 3: this is some fresh energy that this show. I don't 647 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 3: know I needed it. 648 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 2: So when we learned she was coming back, I'm like, yes, 649 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 2: because I expected that same level of freshness. 650 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 3: And and and. 651 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 2: Like you said, like you know, she's fun, you know, 652 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 2: like like let's inject some fun into this show. You know, 653 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 2: she's a fun girl. I am worried about Gretchen. And 654 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 2: I'm worried about her because who she was in this episode. 655 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 2: When she's around Slade, I don't recognize her. I'm concerned 656 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 2: about what influence Slade has on her. And and and 657 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 2: The reason why I'm sounding so serious is because. 658 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 3: It I'm just gonna. 659 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:44,479 Speaker 2: Say, she seems to be influenced by Slade, because I 660 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 2: don't know any woman, especially the Gretchen that I saw 661 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 2: years ago, that would gleefully want their male partner to 662 00:30:58,440 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 2: confront a woman. 663 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 3: I was. 664 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 2: I was so disturbed by it. It's one thing, Listen, 665 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 2: I've worked on a lot of housewives, right, Niini Leaks 666 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 2: and Greg were married at the time, and so was 667 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 2: Cynthia Bailey and Peter Thomas. The difference is those two 668 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 2: couples were the best of friends, vacation together, off camera. 669 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 3: Hung out. 670 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 2: When Nini and Peter had their issue, it was never 671 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:34,959 Speaker 2: a situation where both of their partners weren't around. And again, 672 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 2: they were really friends, so they also knew, like, look, 673 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 2: there's love here in the midst of. 674 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 3: Our disagreement, like brother and sister. 675 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 2: Slave's attention and confronting camera who he does not and 676 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 2: never did have a friendship with was weird, and it 677 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 2: was weird that Gretchen was put up to do it. 678 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 2: And now I've connecting the dots and what Katie said 679 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 2: about what was laid told Matt, and now I'm seeing 680 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 2: Gretchen lead the charge to have this man upfront camera 681 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 2: is I was. I was extremely disappointed in that and 682 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 2: I thought it was gross. 683 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 4: Well yeah, and I don't feel like like the men 684 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 4: really on this show shouldn't get involved like it really. 685 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 4: I mean, if you if you haven't learned by you know, 686 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 4: she was on it for for seasons before, and it's 687 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 4: like it never, it never pans out well for the man. 688 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 4: If it's it's called Housewives of Orange County, yes, the 689 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 4: men are a nice little you know, you know, sidekick, 690 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 4: but it's never the men should be getting involved in 691 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 4: the fight unless it's an argument between two of the men. 692 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 4: What if two of the husbands have an issue, no problem, right, 693 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 4: it's it's that's respectable and okay, you guys have an 694 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 4: issue and deal with it. But they're probably not going 695 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 4: to air out of that because it's Housewives, not house 696 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 4: Husbands of OC. 697 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 5: So yeah, I don't agree. 698 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 4: With it, But I the part that concerns me most 699 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 4: is just why would they even try to go up 700 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 4: to Tamar at that point, You're at a charity event, 701 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 4: it's the end of the night. Why are you even 702 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 4: going to confront anyone? It's just it's all about timing too, 703 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 4: you know. And and what if Gretchen and Slaye had said, 704 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 4: you know, Tamar and Eddie, can we sit down and 705 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 4: have a talk, like let's talk, let's let's meet up 706 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 4: next week for coffee or whatever, and let's have it. 707 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 4: Let's sit it out and just hash it all out. 708 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 4: Totally different, totally respectable. At the end of the night, 709 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 4: when a couple of people have had cocktails, it's you're 710 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 4: you're you're raising money forty something thousand dollars. Good job, 711 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 4: It's like or maybe that was Heather's charity. I forget 712 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 4: what that one raised, but anyways, you're you're doing you're 713 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 4: there for a charitable cause. You don't want to start 714 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 4: drama at that and and then to bring your you know, 715 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 4: boyfriend into it with it, It's like, no, not okay, 716 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 4: I'm with you. 717 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know it was it was. It was really 718 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 3: weird to me. 719 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 2: And that's why, look, Emily ride the fence, but whatever, 720 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 2: that's just who she is. 721 00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 3: But I did appreciate her telling Gretchen and like, look, that. 722 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 2: Was pretty you know aggressive what you guys were trying 723 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 2: to do to Tamra, Like, I'm not here for it, 724 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 2: and I'm like, yeah, it's not. And the fact that 725 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 2: Gretchen didn't understand that she and she yells at her 726 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 2: then yelling at each other, then they leave, and Gretcha's 727 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,240 Speaker 2: saying like, well, it's the fact that you know, Tamra 728 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 2: is say things about Slay, and Slay has the issue. 729 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 3: As a man, I would have done what Alexi just outline. 730 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:37,399 Speaker 3: As two couples. Let's all sit down. 731 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 2: Let let Eddie, Tamra, Slay and Gretchen have a conversation. 732 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 5: Then no one's no one's ganged up on. 733 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 3: It's equal. 734 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 5: It's like there's two men and there's two women. It's 735 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 5: they're both, you. 736 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,240 Speaker 4: Know, couples, and you can hash it all out because 737 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:56,320 Speaker 4: otherwise it's it's slave and Gretchen on Tamera. It's not okay. 738 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,399 Speaker 4: Then no one likes the gang up. And it's also 739 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 4: not okay for some man to be yelled in a 740 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 4: woman's face. Like you said, it's not okay. But you 741 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 4: can see that the anger seething from Slay, like he 742 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 4: just is never going to be happy until he gets 743 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 4: to scream at her or something. 744 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 5: I don't know if he'll even be happy then, but. 745 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's pretty deep. 746 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 4: You can see it, and you can see Tamara not 747 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,919 Speaker 4: wanting anything to do with the issues they've had twelve 748 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 4: years ago in this and that you can you could 749 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,839 Speaker 4: literally see her like I'm over it, Like when are 750 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 4: they going to get over it? And then it's just 751 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 4: I just can see Slade and Gretchen just hanging on 752 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 4: to it, all of it, just hanging holding it, you know, 753 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 4: like we're not going to move past this. When will they? 754 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 4: That's what I'm going to ask Carlos. When will they 755 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 4: get over it? They've already made their point. They've already 756 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 4: made several accusations that have panned out to not be true. 757 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 4: They've already yelled at each other like when is it 758 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 4: going to be? 759 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 5: Enough? Is enough? 760 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:44,359 Speaker 2: Like? 761 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 5: What is it going to have to do? 762 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,319 Speaker 4: Like like that one season when Heather said, do you 763 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 4: want me to give you my first born child? Like, 764 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 4: like what do they want Tamar to do to move 765 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 4: past this? Because it's obvious Tamar's ready to let's let's 766 00:35:58,520 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 4: all do it. 767 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:00,720 Speaker 3: I can't believe. 768 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 4: I can't believe yourers aren't sick of hearing about this. Also, 769 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 4: I'm like so over it. 770 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 2: Well, no, there's on a few things I've seen on 771 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 2: social media. A lot of people are over it because 772 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 2: it's sort of like the thing is this, there's no resolve, 773 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 2: and it's sort of like there's there's there's no resolve 774 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 2: because the difference is. 775 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 3: Slave and Gretchen. They don't want to resolve this. 776 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,280 Speaker 2: They just they don't have any intention of saying, look, 777 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 2: we've had this issu in the past, let's move forward, 778 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 2: and I. 779 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 3: Will say this bad move. I listen. 780 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 2: What they should have done, alexis that would have been 781 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 2: smart and iconic and would have guaranteed another season. I 782 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,280 Speaker 2: would have definitely made the beginning like, let's have this conversation. 783 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 2: We could like argue whatever. 784 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,720 Speaker 6: But I would have shocked the world by by having 785 00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 6: Gretchen and camera be friends. I would have shocked the 786 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 6: world by having all of them hang out and then 787 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 6: being like, oh shit. 788 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 3: This is this. 789 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,400 Speaker 2: This is the duol we didn't know we needed it was. 790 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,839 Speaker 2: It was named bad bluve of their part that they 791 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 2: kept the beef on. We're talking about episode fourteen, and 792 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:16,839 Speaker 2: I'm over it. 793 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 3: I'm over it. I'm over it. 794 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,320 Speaker 5: We got over the Katie stuff, now we're over this stuff. 795 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 4: It's like it's like you do want, you want the 796 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 4: story to move, so unfortunately it's not. It was we 797 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 4: were hung up on the Katie thing for so overly long, 798 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,319 Speaker 4: and now we're hung up on this overly long. 799 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 5: It's like, Okay, how many more episodes do we have? 800 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 4: Because do you know, I don't know how many there are, 801 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 4: but we've got that was fourteen. 802 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,240 Speaker 5: I know there's at least sixteen or seventeen. 803 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think of like seventeen eighteen. Yeah. 804 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're going on the trip we saw next week, 805 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 2: and I think we have two more. They just take 806 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 2: their reunion. 807 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 3: Yesterday. 808 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,479 Speaker 2: Before I let you go, I do want to ask 809 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:57,840 Speaker 2: you this. They did release the seating chart. First chair 810 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 2: went to Tamra. Surprised there, and the other first chair 811 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 2: went to Gin. 812 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was. I was surprised by that. 813 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:10,919 Speaker 5: Why you're just the biggest fan. 814 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 3: No, no, no, I loved it. 815 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 2: But see, unlike look, unlike the cast, I out the Lions. 816 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,319 Speaker 3: So I can call shit out the way I see it. 817 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,399 Speaker 3: I was, I listen, I love Jen. 818 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 2: I didn't think jin this this season last season, Jen, 819 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:27,760 Speaker 2: first chair, Yes. 820 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 5: I who did you think should have had it? 821 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 2: Okay, Carlos King my prediction was first chair camera obviously, honestly, 822 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,319 Speaker 2: you're about to gag I would have given it based on. 823 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 3: Performance this season. Who kept the story? 824 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 2: It would have been between Emily and Gina. If I'm 825 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:55,280 Speaker 2: basic in on story, first chair should have been either 826 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 2: Emily or Gina, and I'm gonna gag you some more. 827 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 2: I probably would have leaned more towards m if I'm 828 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,799 Speaker 2: basicing it off of just story. Emily was a was 829 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 2: a podstar tepe shit going. 830 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:12,799 Speaker 3: Gina was great this season. Base on story, it'd been 831 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,279 Speaker 3: Emily and Gina. What about you? 832 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 5: I don't agree with you at all. 833 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 4: I think you know because because Gina and Emily, to me, 834 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 4: their story was about their kids at work. 835 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 5: And like that's it. 836 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 4: It's like there was not or like the charities and 837 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,279 Speaker 4: this that I don't remember one thing a story like. 838 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 5: I think it would be Jen. I mean, I was shocked. 839 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:33,319 Speaker 3: When I saw it. 840 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie, but I think it would go 841 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,800 Speaker 4: to Gen because I feel like Jen has enough beef 842 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 4: with Tamera and and held her own and has you know, 843 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,239 Speaker 4: like it is like is like trying is like trying 844 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,799 Speaker 4: to become bff with Gretchen or whatever and bringing that 845 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 4: into it. So I feel like Jen was such a 846 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 4: catalyst and so many of the stories that it's like, 847 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 4: you know, and she gets along with Shannon now really 848 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 4: well when last season they weren't so close or you know. 849 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 5: So I don't I don't know. 850 00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,760 Speaker 4: I just feel like out of all of it, because honestly, 851 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 4: the rest of them all kind of are in the 852 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 4: same boat. 853 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 3: Like there. 854 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,240 Speaker 5: I feel like, I feel like Shannon, we know, has. 855 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,919 Speaker 4: No storyline like zero, and then Heather is just kind 856 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,400 Speaker 4: of Switzerland and does her thing and wants to be 857 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 4: in Beverly Hills. And then we've got and then we've 858 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 4: got Gina and Emily, who I don't feel like, there 859 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:20,880 Speaker 4: was no like drama other than the family and the charities, 860 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,880 Speaker 4: and then there would be Katie. So I mean, honestly, 861 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:25,879 Speaker 4: Katie carried it up at the beginning of the show. 862 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 5: Maybe she did a first chair you know. 863 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 3: Oh, let's be clear. 864 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, if Katie, Oh, let's be clear, honey, if Katie 865 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:34,800 Speaker 2: was on the show for the rest of the season, 866 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:39,400 Speaker 2: Katie should for sure have been first chair, one one 867 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 2: hundred and forty five percent for freaking sure. But I knew, 868 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:49,239 Speaker 2: based on being producer, I knew that they were going 869 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:53,799 Speaker 2: to bring Katie out towards the middle of. 870 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 3: Filming the reunion, which I get although I listen. 871 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 2: If I was producing it, I would have done this, Alexis, 872 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 2: I would have started the the reunion without Katie. 873 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,919 Speaker 6: And by maybe. 874 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:17,240 Speaker 2: Twenty thirty minutes in I would have brought Katie out. 875 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 2: I would have told Gina or Emily's school down. Katie 876 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:21,880 Speaker 2: sits next. 877 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 3: To Andy. 878 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,400 Speaker 5: For that portion of when she was the most part. 879 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:26,959 Speaker 3: Of the biggest market. 880 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, and then eventually, you know what would have been 881 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 4: cool about that? 882 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:30,920 Speaker 6: Oh? 883 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:32,840 Speaker 4: So did she I didn't ask him or this, But 884 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 4: did she leave Hart way through the reunion? 885 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 3: I believe. I believe. 886 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 6: I believe based on her getting the last seat. 887 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 2: I believe that they brought her back out towards like 888 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 2: the middle of filming the reunion, and that she may 889 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 2: have either either she stayed towards the end and toasted 890 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 2: to them, or she left before the toast. 891 00:41:59,000 --> 00:41:59,439 Speaker 5: Got it. 892 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 4: And you know what would have been great about your 893 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,400 Speaker 4: idea about scooting everybody down and putting her there is 894 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,799 Speaker 4: it's never happened before, number one, so that's always you know, 895 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,439 Speaker 4: audience loves that, the viewers love the new thing that's 896 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,680 Speaker 4: never happened. And also it would have given Katie what 897 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 4: Katie was doing, like she carried the first what ten 898 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:19,879 Speaker 4: episodes of the show, So yeah, that would have yeah, 899 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 4: that would have been yeah, yeah, good idea of Carlos 900 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,960 Speaker 4: iadline at RHOC. They don't know who they're missing here. 901 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 4: I mean, Dateline needs me, r h C needs you. 902 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 4: We got we gotta put this in the universe. 903 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:38,440 Speaker 2: You know, I love you so much, Alexas Jansen, honey 904 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,399 Speaker 2: once again congratulates my love. 905 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:46,960 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, look at my shirt. Girlfriend, no fiance, no wife. 906 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, happy for you. 907 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:52,600 Speaker 3: Give my life to John. 908 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 4: You can only wear this cheesy stuff for like the 909 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 4: first week and today it works my one week anniversary. 910 00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 5: By the way, everyone's questioning why we got married on 911 00:42:58,640 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 5: a Friday. Let me clear the air car. 912 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, let's talk about that. 913 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,440 Speaker 5: Everybody is like, why they get married on a Friday. 914 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 4: My friends got married on a Tuesday because they wanted 915 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,319 Speaker 4: the date to twenty two twenty two. 916 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 3: That was back in. 917 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,399 Speaker 5: Twenty twenty two. It doesn't matter what day you get 918 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:11,759 Speaker 5: married on. 919 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,880 Speaker 4: But our resort that we wanted to be at didn't 920 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,239 Speaker 4: have a Saturday for two and a half years from 921 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,560 Speaker 4: when we back a year ago and we booked the resort, 922 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,120 Speaker 4: we had no choice but a Friday or a Sunday 923 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,359 Speaker 4: or a different date. So we chose Friday the third 924 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,360 Speaker 4: because the three is one of our numbers, and so 925 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:27,320 Speaker 4: we're like, Friday. 926 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,239 Speaker 5: The Third's perfect. It doesn't who cares what day. 927 00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:31,440 Speaker 4: I don't know why it's such a big hook, Like 928 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,000 Speaker 4: what they think we saved money, honey bunny. Our wedding 929 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,319 Speaker 4: was way over six figures and more. So just no, okay, no, 930 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 4: it was we did not save any money or need 931 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:41,799 Speaker 4: to do it for any other reason we wanted to. 932 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 3: I that was so funny. I felt that getting married 933 00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 3: a Friday was a big is not a rule a day. 934 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:51,080 Speaker 5: I think that people think. 935 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,239 Speaker 4: I do know that certain resorts give discounts on different days, 936 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:55,520 Speaker 4: like if you do it on a Sunday because they 937 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,799 Speaker 4: don't have as many weddings. But when Saturday's book out 938 00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,799 Speaker 4: for two and a half years, you get an establishment. 939 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,600 Speaker 4: You can guarantee you ain't saving any money on a 940 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,520 Speaker 4: Friday or a Sunday because then they know everyone's coming 941 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,200 Speaker 4: on a Friday or Sunday because all the Saturdays are 942 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,400 Speaker 4: booked so I mean, it's like, I don't know, but 943 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,680 Speaker 4: I think people just like to talk. But there you go, 944 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,359 Speaker 4: so everyone can now put their mind to rest and 945 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,040 Speaker 4: just know that we had to take a Friday people, 946 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:18,719 Speaker 4: and it worked out beautifully and or you know what 947 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,000 Speaker 4: we liked about it as our guests had to take 948 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,200 Speaker 4: off Thursday off work, but then the ones that needed 949 00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,000 Speaker 4: to leave town and get back to work on Monday 950 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 4: had Saturday to come to our chef brunch over here 951 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 4: and then they could, you know, fly out on Sunday 952 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 4: and make it to work on Monday. 953 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 5: So they actually, some of them actually really liked. 954 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,200 Speaker 4: It because if you get married on a Saturday, if 955 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:36,880 Speaker 4: you get married on a Saturday, then they do the brunch. 956 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,719 Speaker 5: They have to miss work on Friday too, So. 957 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:40,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I did. 958 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,719 Speaker 2: At the end of the day, there's no day when 959 00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:46,120 Speaker 2: it comes to celebrating your matrimony with the person you love. 960 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,400 Speaker 3: I think I don't care if it was a Wednesday, Like, 961 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 3: at the end of. 962 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:53,000 Speaker 2: The day, this is for the two of you, and 963 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,040 Speaker 2: if anybody wanted to be there, whether it was a 964 00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,040 Speaker 2: Wednesday or Friday, Like, I don't think the day of 965 00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:01,680 Speaker 2: the week matters. Was exactly appropriate or not, but whatever. 966 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,960 Speaker 2: Congratulations missus Janson. 967 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:10,080 Speaker 4: We will see we will see everybody next week and 968 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:11,800 Speaker 4: or what's next Next Friday? 969 00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:15,240 Speaker 3: TJ. Yeah, next Friday. All right, So tell John. 970 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,760 Speaker 5: I'll be in Missouri's a littill be a weird podcast. 971 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:20,319 Speaker 4: It will be at my Auntie's house and I don't 972 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,399 Speaker 4: know what that set up will be like, just warning you, 973 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,240 Speaker 4: but it's gonna be fun in Missouri. 974 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:26,919 Speaker 3: Okay, good wait? 975 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:28,960 Speaker 2: I love you, dolph Aides and I'll see you in 976 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:33,759 Speaker 2: the next one. Bye bye, bye, bye bye baby. 977 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:39,520 Speaker 1: Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King, 978 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,840 Speaker 1: produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership. 979 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,400 Speaker 3: With the Lack Effect Network. 980 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,480 Speaker 1: You can also find us on my YouTube channel at 981 00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,360 Speaker 1: the Carlos King Underscore