WEBVTT - "Pride and Prejudice" with Jennie Garth

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to Earsay, the Audible and iHeart Audio

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<v Speaker 1>book Club. It's the book club for audiobook lovers. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>ed Helms and I am cal Penn.

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<v Speaker 2>Each episode, Ed or I will tackle a different Audible

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<v Speaker 2>title with your favorite hosts and special guests from across

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<v Speaker 2>the iHeart Podcast world and beyond. They'll share what they heard,

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<v Speaker 2>what they loved, and what they can't stop thinking about.

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<v Speaker 2>You've heard the books, Now hear the ear.

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<v Speaker 1>Say earsay that title? Are we all getting it? Cal

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<v Speaker 1>break it down? Sure?

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<v Speaker 2>If I need to get specific well pronounced earsay. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a play on hearsay, but unlike hearsay, you shouldn't ignore it.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to listen to the ear say it's the

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<v Speaker 2>lively chatter that follows a great audiobook.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure I get it. Can you use it

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<v Speaker 1>in a sentence? Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, let's see. I finished the book. Now I'm catching

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<v Speaker 2>up on the ear say see what I'm saying?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Okay, that's far.

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<v Speaker 2>This season, we're going to be getting into some really

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<v Speaker 2>fun titles that push the limits of the audiobook format.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll dive into an oral history of one of

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<v Speaker 2>the funniest movies in the eighties. We'll do a supernatural

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<v Speaker 2>thriller co authored by m Night Shamalan.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll also dive into the full cast audio edition of

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<v Speaker 1>Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone. It stars Riz Ahmed,

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<v Speaker 1>Hugh Laurie, and Matthew mcfaddian.

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<v Speaker 2>This is our audiobook club, and you're invited.

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<v Speaker 1>Cow. Do you have a formative audiobook memory?

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<v Speaker 2>I guess formative audio book memory. I really like listening

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<v Speaker 2>to audiobooks from authors who whose voices are kind of iconic.

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<v Speaker 2>There's something about getting that firsthand that I like. But

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<v Speaker 2>really the like, the more universal side of that. I

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<v Speaker 2>remember listening to somebody like a Mindy kayale Right is

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<v Speaker 2>so sweet and bubbly, and her whole persona is that

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<v Speaker 2>of like I'm everybody's friend. So when you listen to

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<v Speaker 2>a fun memoir that she's written, and it's vulnerable and

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<v Speaker 2>it's funny and.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely how about you?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I totally agree you have a formative audiobook memory.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure thinking back when I really started to

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<v Speaker 1>get into audiobooks, but but I've been into them for

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<v Speaker 1>a long time and there's one experience that I had

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<v Speaker 1>that I that I just love. I still think back

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<v Speaker 1>on fondly. I was on a road trip by myself

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<v Speaker 1>on the open road in the Western United States for

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen hours straight and I had to get from A

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<v Speaker 1>to B, so I just was kind of like barreling

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<v Speaker 1>through as efficiently as I could, and I put in

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<v Speaker 1>this audio book The Overstory. The Overstory is this incredibly

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<v Speaker 1>rich and deep and beautiful novel, and it's also one

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<v Speaker 1>that is quite overwhelming with the just amount of it's dense.

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<v Speaker 1>There's so much narrative, there's so much sort of color

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<v Speaker 1>and experience to this story. But because I was able

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<v Speaker 1>to just dial in on the open road, I just

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<v Speaker 1>was riveted and it made this the entire day of

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<v Speaker 1>driving just like disappear. I was so immersed in this

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<v Speaker 1>book and I and to this day, I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's such an incredibly powerful and beautiful, beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>Book that's so cool, like a TimewARP for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, audiobooks are timewarps because they're so immersive.

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<v Speaker 2>I assume you narrated the audiobook commercial of your book, right, correct, Yes, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I did the same. I wrote this memoir called You

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<v Speaker 2>Can't Be Serious, and the subtext is about systemic change

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<v Speaker 2>in Hollywood and Washington. But really it's like a collection

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<v Speaker 2>of short stories that I just want people to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to laugh at, whether they're reading it by the

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<v Speaker 2>pool or kind of listening to it on the subway

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<v Speaker 2>around on a drive. And I remember when my editor

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<v Speaker 2>called after I turned in the manuscript and she said, so,

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<v Speaker 2>do you want to record and narrate your audiobook or

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<v Speaker 2>do you want to give it to somebody else? And

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<v Speaker 2>I was so confused by that, like why would the

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<v Speaker 2>amount of self deprecating jokes alone and the weird voices

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<v Speaker 2>that I do in my head that could so easily

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<v Speaker 2>like with the wrong voice, could just like a problematic situation.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I wrote a book that's more sort of my

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<v Speaker 1>comedic take on some straight history stories. It's called SNAPO,

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<v Speaker 1>The Definitive Guide to Histories Greatest screw Ups, available wherever

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<v Speaker 1>you get your books, and the same thing. I was

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<v Speaker 1>so proud of it. I was like, I'm not I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want I don't want some other jerk just like

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<v Speaker 1>rattling this thing off.

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<v Speaker 2>In your book, by the way, came from your podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>which is also called Snaffo.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, thank you for mentioning that. My my podcast Snaffoo

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<v Speaker 1>also about history's greatest grew ups. Season four is coming out,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm having guests come on and I tell them

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<v Speaker 1>about a snafoo and we reflect on what these snaffoos

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<v Speaker 1>say about humanity, and spoiler alert, it's usually not good

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<v Speaker 1>things about humanity.

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<v Speaker 2>You also have a podcast I do, or I guess

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<v Speaker 2>technically I will. It is still a very big secret

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<v Speaker 2>for right now, but we will announce it on the

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<v Speaker 2>fourteenth of October. But yes, we do podcasts, we do

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<v Speaker 2>audio books, and we're maybe the perfect guys to host

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<v Speaker 2>a podcast about audiobooks.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yes, And so for our first episode today, we

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<v Speaker 1>have the pleasure of stepping into the carriages and drawing

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<v Speaker 1>rooms of Regency England. Our guest and I listened to

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<v Speaker 1>the audible reimagining of a piece of the English literature canon,

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<v Speaker 1>Jane Austen's eighteen thirteen masterpiece, Pride and Prejudice. It came

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<v Speaker 1>out during the peak of the Romantic era, when people

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<v Speaker 1>like John Keats and Lord Byron were writing about passion

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<v Speaker 1>and mortality and the nature of beauty. But Pride and

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<v Speaker 1>Prejudice offered witty, sharp social commentary at a time when

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<v Speaker 1>the novel itself was seen as kind of frivolous. Austin

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<v Speaker 1>published it anonymously, which was common for women authors at

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<v Speaker 1>the time. Writing novels was seen as an improper way

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<v Speaker 1>for women to spend their time. Pride and Prejudice was

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<v Speaker 1>a smash hit and went on to be instrumental in

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<v Speaker 1>shaping what the English novel would become. Austin's narrative style

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<v Speaker 1>is called free indirect speech. That's when the thoughts and

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<v Speaker 1>speech of any character can be written out in the

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<v Speaker 1>voice of the narrator, which is totally familiar to a

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<v Speaker 1>modern reader, but was groundbreaking when the book came out.

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<v Speaker 1>Cal Have you ever read Pride and Prejudice? I read

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<v Speaker 1>enough of it, but yes, I remember reading it a

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<v Speaker 1>quick refresher. Pride and Prejudice is the story of the

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<v Speaker 1>quick witted Elizabeth Bennett, who finds herself navigating complicated social

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<v Speaker 1>dynamics in a romantic back and forth with a man

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<v Speaker 1>she calls the quote proudest and most disagreeable man in

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<v Speaker 1>the world, the handsome and delusive and of course fabulously rich,

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<v Speaker 1>mister Dawesy. The themes in Pride and Prejudice are timeless.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking self discovery class. Of course, both Pride and

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<v Speaker 1>Prejudice question, cal in your relationship, are you more than

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<v Speaker 1>mister Darcy or more the Lizzie Bennett?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, I mean digging?

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<v Speaker 1>Am I digging too deep?

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<v Speaker 2>And no, you're not digging deep at all. It's one

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<v Speaker 2>of those things where I'm probably more of like the

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<v Speaker 2>Lizzie Bennett, but like aspirationally, I would love to be

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<v Speaker 2>a mister Darcy. I would love to have the the handsome,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'd love to be fabulously rich. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not trying to script the question, but maybe an amalgam

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<v Speaker 2>of both. Leaning towards the miss Bennett.

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<v Speaker 1>Well good, I mean it's a win win. They're both

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<v Speaker 1>remarkable characters. Lizzie just has this like irrepressible verb and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of sass and deep intelligence, and mister Darcy, we learn,

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<v Speaker 1>has like great integrity and of course a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're a combination of those two, you're you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing You're doing good. So this new Audible adaptation of

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<v Speaker 1>Pride and Prejudice is less of an audio book and

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<v Speaker 1>more like a mini series for your ears, with immersive

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<v Speaker 1>sound design and original music. It stars Marisa Abella as

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<v Speaker 1>Elizabeth and Harris Dickinson as mister Darcy. It's faithful to

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<v Speaker 1>the original, but it's told from Elizabeth's perspective in a

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<v Speaker 1>highly suggestive way that kind of sizzles in the intimate

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<v Speaker 1>audio format. Let's take a listen.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not concerned at all. I'm really trying to illustrate your.

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<v Speaker 1>Character and do you succeed?

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<v Speaker 2>Not at all.

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<v Speaker 4>I hear such different accounts of you. I can't make

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<v Speaker 4>any sense of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Ooh, Steamy, Marissa, Abella, Marisa, Marisa, excuse me, Marisa, Yeah, amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>I just did a little arc on Industry. We did

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<v Speaker 2>not have scenes together, but even her voice is so

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<v Speaker 2>if you're a fan of that show, she is so

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<v Speaker 2>so good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is giving some pretty saucy vibes. Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna lie.

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<v Speaker 2>Did they make you watch the like nineteen sixties version

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<v Speaker 2>of Romeo and Juliet in high school?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I have a vague memory of that.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember that they we watched that and it was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, it did. I don't think it helped me

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<v Speaker 2>understand and the material any better. But then when I

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<v Speaker 2>was in college, the Leo DiCaprio, Claar Danes, Baz Luhrmann

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<v Speaker 2>version came out and that was like whoa. Yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>The to illustrate the timelessness of literature, especially Shakespeare obviously

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<v Speaker 2>was like bonkers. Anyway, just listening to that clip, have

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<v Speaker 2>something like that brought to life by a voice you recognized,

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<v Speaker 2>was yeah, very riveting.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's uh yeah, it's very compelling. Yeah, there's there's

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<v Speaker 1>more star power in this production too. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>the legendary British thespian Bill Nye plays Elizabeth's father, mister Bennett,

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<v Speaker 1>and Glenn Close plays the domineering and downright kind of

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<v Speaker 1>scary lady Catherine de Bourg. Let's listen to another clip.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell me once and for all are you engaged to him?

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<v Speaker 3>I am not, And will you promise me never to

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<v Speaker 3>enter into such an engagement?

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<v Speaker 4>Can I promises of the kind?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? That Lizzie just the backbone, she's so tough.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, she will not make any promises.

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<v Speaker 1>I've worked with Glenn Close. She is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most lovely human beings you'll ever know, But man, she

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<v Speaker 1>can play tough.

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<v Speaker 2>I would This goes back to the earlier question you

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<v Speaker 2>asked me about, like who I'm more like I would

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<v Speaker 2>love in modern times like today, if somebody on a

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<v Speaker 2>work call asks me to promise them something, I just

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<v Speaker 2>want to say that I will make no promises.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the kind.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to use that line.

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<v Speaker 1>I will make no promises of the kind. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>you're right, that's a stinger.

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<v Speaker 2>Why don't you ask me if I'll be part of

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<v Speaker 2>this interview and I will say that I will make

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<v Speaker 2>no promises of the kind.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna get this party started with our first guest.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks so much for helping me kick off this podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna have a ton of fun and here we go.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, man, I am. I'm very excited. Enjoy, enjoy the convo.

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<v Speaker 2>I will hop off and leave you to the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of this one.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, our first guest on the Earsay podcast. You know

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<v Speaker 1>her as Kelly Taylor from the legendary Beverly Hills nine

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<v Speaker 1>oh two one zero. She starred in What I Like

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<v Speaker 1>About You. She also starred in the reality shows Jenny Garth,

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<v Speaker 1>A Little Bit Country and The Jenny Garth Project. Now

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<v Speaker 1>she is host of the iHeart podcast I Choose Me

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<v Speaker 1>with Jenny Garth and just in case you haven't done

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<v Speaker 1>the math and figured it out already, I am of course,

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the legendary Jenny Garth. Jenny, welcome to Earsay.

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<v Speaker 4>What's that you say?

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<v Speaker 1>Ere Earsay ear say, uh, yeah, it's just we think

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<v Speaker 1>it's a neat name. We're very proud of our cute name.

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<v Speaker 4>But uh, it is good, it's catchy.

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<v Speaker 5>Ear.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're you're our first guest.

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<v Speaker 2>What.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's just such a thrill to have you on

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<v Speaker 1>board right out of the gate.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm so happy to be here. And you know what,

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<v Speaker 4>we're talking about one of my favorite books slash movies

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<v Speaker 4>of all time. How did that happen? I don't even know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's no accident because your podcast and as sort of

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<v Speaker 1>career has touched on so many of these themes, and

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like it just felt like such a good

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<v Speaker 1>fit out of the gate. But the fact that you

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<v Speaker 1>love it makes it even better.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep, yep, true.

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<v Speaker 1>Well right out of the gate. What have you been

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<v Speaker 1>reading lately? Any books caught your fancy?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my gosh, you know, I do a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>reading just in prep for my podcast when I have

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<v Speaker 4>guests on that have new books coming out, So that

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<v Speaker 4>has really taken over all of my reading opportunities lately.

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<v Speaker 4>I just read a book that's about to come out

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<v Speaker 4>by Jen Hatmaker called a Wake. It is so good.

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<v Speaker 4>I enjoyed Tina Knowle's really great book come out now

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<v Speaker 4>that long ago. So I like a memoir laced with lessons.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that. I like that a lot. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>I'm much more of like a just a straight history nerd.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been reading Dead Wake, which is the story of

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<v Speaker 1>the last crossing of the Lusitania ship.

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<v Speaker 4>I trying to tell you that sounds interesting. I love history.

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<v Speaker 1>It is cool. Yeah, I mean, this is a this

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<v Speaker 1>is like a cruise ship that got shot by German

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<v Speaker 1>U boats, and it's a wild story. It's totally true.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just straight history, but it's a it's a very

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<v Speaker 1>very cool account. Are you an audio book person?

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<v Speaker 4>I read audio books like when it first started happening,

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<v Speaker 4>and then I read audio books. That doesn't make sense.

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<v Speaker 4>I listened to audio books.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm making can say. I think you can say you

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<v Speaker 1>read an audio book.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I can get credit for it. Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>good good. So I hadn't really like gotten more into them,

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<v Speaker 4>and I was busy, been busy, But then I listened

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<v Speaker 4>to this one and I was really blown away at

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<v Speaker 4>how far they've come. Yeah, this is like a whole

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<v Speaker 4>new experience one that I like.

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<v Speaker 1>This is almost more like a dramatic interpretation than just

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<v Speaker 1>like a straight audio book. It really is.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like you're watching the movie, but you're not stuck

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<v Speaker 4>to watching the screen, and then you get to have

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<v Speaker 4>your imagination as would if you're reading it, but it

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<v Speaker 4>kind of fills in all the little details and all

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<v Speaker 4>the things that you would see when you're watching the movie,

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<v Speaker 4>which is so cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's arguably more immersive because it's giving you all

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<v Speaker 1>of the audio sort of spatial and environmental cues, but

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<v Speaker 1>it relies entirely on your imagination to conjure these images

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<v Speaker 1>and characters. The dawn of audio books dramatically increased my

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<v Speaker 1>intake of books, really, yeah, because I have ADHD and

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<v Speaker 1>I struggle to kind of stay engaged. I have sort

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<v Speaker 1>of like my working memory is very scattered and sort

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<v Speaker 1>of broken, and so that's what reading requires, is to

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<v Speaker 1>sort of hold information and context in your head. Weirdly,

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<v Speaker 1>when I'm listening to text, my working memory fires. It

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<v Speaker 1>just is like dialed in and I can listen at

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<v Speaker 1>extremely high speeds. Weirdly, I don't know why, But I

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<v Speaker 1>really enjoy just taking in the information almost just like

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<v Speaker 1>a funnel, like ah, just taking it as much as

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<v Speaker 1>I can. So yeah, it makes reading faster and more

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<v Speaker 1>immersive for me. I just love audio books. Jenny, you

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<v Speaker 1>host the iHeart podcast I Choose Me First. Can you

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<v Speaker 1>explain the significance of that title?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I am probably best known for Beverly Hills Onoto Ando,

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<v Speaker 4>which was a show that lasted the entire span of

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<v Speaker 4>the nineties decade, and at one point, my character Kelly

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<v Speaker 4>Taylor had this moment where she was in this love

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<v Speaker 4>triangle and she had to choose between two guys, the

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<v Speaker 4>two you know, like Brandon and Dylan. It was big,

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<v Speaker 4>everybody was watching it. It's kind of like what's happening

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<v Speaker 4>right now with the young people. There's a show called

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<v Speaker 4>The Summary Turn Pretty where it's people are watching it

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<v Speaker 4>and we everybody has something to say about who she

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<v Speaker 4>should pick. Sure, so it's exactly the same beat as

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<v Speaker 4>we played in the nineties on nine Totoentoo. It's so

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<v Speaker 4>fun to watch it come back, but it's a really

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<v Speaker 4>interesting message. She chose herself instead of choosing one of

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<v Speaker 4>the guys, So she said, I choose me, and I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't really understand the significance of that at that age.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, in my life, I was probably nineteen twenty,

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<v Speaker 4>and I feel like now, looking back at things, you

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<v Speaker 4>kind of reach that age where you take stock of

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<v Speaker 4>your life, where you've been, what felt good and in alignment,

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<v Speaker 4>and where you felt like you had accomplishments. It kind

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<v Speaker 4>of revisiting those places and I thought, you know what

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<v Speaker 4>that is something that message, I know, really helped a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of young women who were watching the show in

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<v Speaker 4>real time to identify the fact that they could choose

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<v Speaker 4>themselves in any given moment. Of course, so many women

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<v Speaker 4>said I didn't really know that I could choose myself

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<v Speaker 4>until I saw Kelly Taylor do it, and so I've

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<v Speaker 4>I kind of thought, wow, that's really meaningful, and I

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<v Speaker 4>think that's a message that needs to continue forward. So

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<v Speaker 4>I was kind of lost. I didn't know what I

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to do with my career, and you know, things

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<v Speaker 4>are weird now in the business. So I just said,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to focus on spreading something that's important to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that it's like put on your oxygen mask first,

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<v Speaker 1>right when the plane's going down. What's really interesting about

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<v Speaker 1>it is as an idea I choose me. It might

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<v Speaker 1>ring at first like self absorbed or narcissistic even, but

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<v Speaker 1>it truly is the way I hear you talk about it,

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<v Speaker 1>and as I've listened to your podcast, it's truly a

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<v Speaker 1>generous disposition. It's a way of presenting to the world

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<v Speaker 1>in a way where you know your own value, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and when you do that, you are elevating the people

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<v Speaker 1>around you as well. Definitely, all right, let's get into

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<v Speaker 1>Pride and Prejudice a little bit here, Yes, but let's

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<v Speaker 1>sort of segue from nine o two one zero into

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<v Speaker 1>Pride and Prejudice. So Kelly had that famous moment of

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<v Speaker 1>choosing between Dylan and Brandon. Do you think Kelly would

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<v Speaker 1>have fallen for someone like mister Darcy or would she

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<v Speaker 1>have gone for a Wickham first?

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<v Speaker 4>Without a doubt in my mind, she would have fallen

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<v Speaker 4>in love with mister Darcy.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's great, all right.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean I did, and you know we're pretty similar, so.

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<v Speaker 1>Good, good, Yeah, for sure, I think that says the

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<v Speaker 1>right thing about Kelly and Jenny. So Bride and Prejudice

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<v Speaker 1>it's considered an important novel, right, but what makes it

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<v Speaker 1>a fun novel. What is it about the story that's

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<v Speaker 1>fun to you?

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<v Speaker 4>It's the romance it's always going to come back to

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<v Speaker 4>that really draws people in. And you get so invested

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<v Speaker 4>in the characters and you see them making mistakes, and

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<v Speaker 4>you see them learning from those mistakes and figuring things

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<v Speaker 4>out along the way.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure.

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<v Speaker 4>And I just love period pieces, the costumes and the

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<v Speaker 4>horses and the carriages, and the just the beautiful way

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<v Speaker 4>everyone carries themselves. It's so different than it is now

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<v Speaker 4>that I just find it really refreshing to look back

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<v Speaker 4>and remember what things used to be like.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think you're right on the money. It's such

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<v Speaker 1>a classic romantic tale, which is always riveting. I also

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<v Speaker 1>think there's something just for us as Americans. There's something

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<v Speaker 1>so alluring about that subtle British wit. Yeah, that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like dry sarcasm, but there's a sweetness underneath it.

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<v Speaker 1>You can tell these characters have affection with each other,

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<v Speaker 1>even though they kind of bite at each other.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's fun to listen to their banter for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think Austin's writing is it's fun and accessible,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's also sort of making commentary. And she has

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<v Speaker 1>a wonderful warmth towards all of these characters. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>special novel.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you read it in high school?

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<v Speaker 1>I think I pretended to read it in high school

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<v Speaker 1>and probably just read cliff notes.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So this new Audible production is a full cast audio adaptation,

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<v Speaker 1>complete with star performances, sound design, and original music. What

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<v Speaker 1>stood out to you in this production while listening?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I went into it not knowing what I was

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<v Speaker 4>going to be hearing, like this new way of listening

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<v Speaker 4>to a book. But I was drawn in immediately by

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<v Speaker 4>the sound design. I felt as if I was in

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<v Speaker 4>the room room with these characters and I was in

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<v Speaker 4>their conversation, and there is something so inclusive about that.

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<v Speaker 4>So for me, it was really about the sound design,

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<v Speaker 4>just the footsteps and the doors opening and closing. It's

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<v Speaker 4>like it's real. It's like it's really happening.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, it's totally immersive. There's a beautiful score woven

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<v Speaker 1>in by Morgan Kibbie. There's a subtle bit of sound

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<v Speaker 1>design that I thought was so effective where Lizzie's voice

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<v Speaker 1>is given a kind of this like reaver some effect

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<v Speaker 1>anyway that makes it clear that you're in her head,

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<v Speaker 1>in her inner monologue. You're going in and out of

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<v Speaker 1>Lizzie's head in a way that for the listener this

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<v Speaker 1>might sound crazy, but it's actually totally intuitive. When you

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<v Speaker 1>listen to it, it makes perfect sense. What role would

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<v Speaker 1>you want to play?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean in this story? Are you really going to

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<v Speaker 4>ask me that? Lizzie Luy, Yeah, I mean great, She's

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<v Speaker 4>just so smart and so independent and strong. I just

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<v Speaker 4>love HER's she says it like it is.

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<v Speaker 1>You would be an incredible Lizzie.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh god, thanks, such a coment.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not a trick question, no wrong answer. What

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<v Speaker 1>role would I play?

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<v Speaker 4>You know what? I can see you as mister Darcy.

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<v Speaker 4>You got a little Colin first.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's really sweet. I appreciate that. But are you

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<v Speaker 1>sure I'm not I'm not the dad. I mean I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not mister Bennett here.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean with the right you know, wardrobe, hair and makeup.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's you.

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<v Speaker 1>Pride and Prejudice, as you mentioned before, has been made

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<v Speaker 1>into multiple TV series, movies, reimaginings and so on. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you have a favorite version?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, BBC original, Yeah, Colin.

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<v Speaker 1>First, Jennifer e Lee. Yep, there's something about that version

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<v Speaker 1>that just captured Jane Austen's tone acting too.

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<v Speaker 4>I think Colin just the way you hated him and

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<v Speaker 4>loved him at the same time, and his stature like

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<v Speaker 4>does everything about it. I was head over heels for him. Delicious,

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<v Speaker 4>It's delicious.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, of course, yes. So what is it about those

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<v Speaker 1>Brits they're so beguiling? What do you think it is

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<v Speaker 1>about pride and prejudice that has given it such incredible

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<v Speaker 1>staying power for more than two hundred years.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I don't think it hurts that they keep reimagining it. Sure,

0:24:39.920 --> 0:24:42.600
<v Speaker 4>you know, I think they've done you know, like you

0:24:42.640 --> 0:24:47.040
<v Speaker 4>said before, it goes from BBC to Hallmark to Disney Channel,

0:24:47.160 --> 0:24:49.960
<v Speaker 4>like there's always going to be their interpretation for a

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<v Speaker 4>different age group audience.

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<v Speaker 1>Amen.

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<v Speaker 4>I think what's made it last it's just it's a timeless.

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<v Speaker 2>Story, Yeah, exactly, Like.

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<v Speaker 4>That's at its heart, it's a timeless story.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like humans were just suckers for a great

0:25:05.359 --> 0:25:09.640
<v Speaker 1>love story. But this one has this really wonderful trope

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<v Speaker 1>of the people that are destined to be together but

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<v Speaker 1>hate each other at first, Right, they start off with

0:25:17.480 --> 0:25:22.640
<v Speaker 1>all the friction. Yeah, that's satisfying. They when they realize.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that moonlighting energy, like.

0:25:24.240 --> 0:25:26.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, moonlighting, Oh perfect.

0:25:26.359 --> 0:25:29.000
<v Speaker 4>They hate each other, but you know they love each

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<v Speaker 4>other and you're just waiting on the edge of your

0:25:30.840 --> 0:25:32.520
<v Speaker 4>seat for them to finally get together.

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<v Speaker 1>Marriage is obviously a major theme in Pride and Prejudice.

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<v Speaker 1>Norms around marriage have changed profoundly in the last two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and twenty five years.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank God.

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<v Speaker 1>What are some things that this book says about marriage

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<v Speaker 1>that might still be true today?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I think in Lizzie's case, she wanted to find

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<v Speaker 4>somebody that could keep up with her intellectually, and that

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<v Speaker 4>the spice that she you know, finding someone that can

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<v Speaker 4>sort of spar with you when you want to spar

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<v Speaker 4>and roll with you when you want to roll, like

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<v Speaker 4>she wanted that then, and I think, I know I

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<v Speaker 4>still want that as a woman in this day and age.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to be bored. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 4>be a comfortable kept woman. I think, you know, there

0:26:22.080 --> 0:26:25.280
<v Speaker 4>are all different kinds of women and they all have

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<v Speaker 4>different needs. Back then, it was about finding a husband

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<v Speaker 4>because that's how you survived.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think to what you're speaking to about,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, being able to spar with somebody without it

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<v Speaker 1>threatening the integrity of the relationship is really about having

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<v Speaker 1>an underlying respect for one another, and a deep sort

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<v Speaker 1>of abiding respect that transcends the petty moments or the

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<v Speaker 1>hard moments of conflict. What I love about pride and

0:26:52.040 --> 0:26:56.040
<v Speaker 1>prejudice is that really their love story. In my view,

0:26:56.200 --> 0:26:58.960
<v Speaker 1>they realize they love each other when they built respect

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<v Speaker 1>for one another, and that's what's ultimately gratifying. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit in defiance of some of the norms

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<v Speaker 1>of the day. All Right, I asked my co host

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<v Speaker 1>cal this question before. Who in your marriage is more

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<v Speaker 1>of the Darcy and who is more of the Elizabeth

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<v Speaker 1>or are you another character altogether?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I feel like hmmm, honestly, it's kind of weird.

0:27:30.240 --> 0:27:31.800
<v Speaker 4>I never really thought about it, but I think my

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<v Speaker 4>husband's morally mister Darcy. He's got that like dry quick

0:27:37.880 --> 0:27:44.119
<v Speaker 4>wit and walks to his own drum. It has that

0:27:44.200 --> 0:27:48.160
<v Speaker 4>air of independence and almost like a little bit of

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<v Speaker 4>arrogance sometimes, which must be appealing to me because I'm

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<v Speaker 4>liking it here again with him.

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<v Speaker 1>Pride. Yeah, the pride, pride and prejudice exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>So I like that in a man, and that confidence

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<v Speaker 4>that's great, And yeah, i'd probably be more like Lizzie

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<v Speaker 4>just because she doesn't just go with the way she's

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<v Speaker 4>told to go. She wants to have her own path.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say my wife is definitely Lizzie. I'm maybe

0:28:15.240 --> 0:28:19.760
<v Speaker 1>more of a Bingley in what way. I just like

0:28:19.800 --> 0:28:25.080
<v Speaker 1>the I'm the fun guy. That's my main contribution is

0:28:25.160 --> 0:28:28.600
<v Speaker 1>just being like, agreeable and fun and hopefully stable.

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<v Speaker 4>Those are all great qualities, so I.

0:28:31.040 --> 0:28:32.880
<v Speaker 1>Like to think. So I like to think I bring

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<v Speaker 1>something to the table.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, at the end of the story, despite all

0:28:38.360 --> 0:28:43.000
<v Speaker 1>odds being against it, Elizabeth and Darcy end up engaged.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't say Darcy just like I have to say

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<v Speaker 1>Darcy Saws. They surprise each other and they surprise themselves,

0:28:50.480 --> 0:28:55.360
<v Speaker 1>and through that new knowledge, their love becomes possible. We

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<v Speaker 1>have a clip.

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<v Speaker 5>You showed me how insufficient all of my pretensions were

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<v Speaker 5>to please woman worthy of being pleased.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it's the birds for me right that listener. That

0:29:09.480 --> 0:29:12.080
<v Speaker 1>is a little taste of the sound design just all

0:29:12.120 --> 0:29:16.480
<v Speaker 1>through this thing that is so so wonderful. Do you

0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:20.239
<v Speaker 1>think there's an element of wish fulfillment here, Like a

0:29:20.280 --> 0:29:24.320
<v Speaker 1>really smart young woman meets a really smart, handsome, wealthy man.

0:29:25.000 --> 0:29:29.000
<v Speaker 1>Austin Jane Austen started writing this at age twenty, so

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps there's something aspirational in this story. What do you

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<v Speaker 1>think for sure?

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<v Speaker 4>I think, I mean, speaking for myself, Yeah, you want

0:29:39.200 --> 0:29:47.960
<v Speaker 4>that romance and you want that challenge and intrigue. If

0:29:47.960 --> 0:29:52.880
<v Speaker 4>anything's too easy, it feels like it's not worth it somehow.

0:29:53.600 --> 0:29:56.600
<v Speaker 4>And I feel like both of the characters in this

0:29:57.440 --> 0:30:01.120
<v Speaker 4>book really have their own personal jarnies to go through

0:30:01.480 --> 0:30:08.520
<v Speaker 4>until they find that mutual respect. Looking past the stereotypes

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<v Speaker 4>and past what all the other women that he had

0:30:12.520 --> 0:30:16.520
<v Speaker 4>to choose from were, and then learning that she, like

0:30:16.600 --> 0:30:22.560
<v Speaker 4>he said, she's worthy of his love. That's saying a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and knowing that that Jane Austen started writing this

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<v Speaker 1>at age twenty, I'm eager to kind of do more

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<v Speaker 1>research on Austin and what kind of person was she

0:30:34.080 --> 0:30:38.400
<v Speaker 1>who was such a keen observer of human behavior and

0:30:38.440 --> 0:30:42.560
<v Speaker 1>the human condition and obviously an incredible wit. And I

0:30:42.600 --> 0:30:46.960
<v Speaker 1>would think she built Lizzie on herself in some way.

0:30:47.000 --> 0:30:50.440
<v Speaker 1>But I'm now very curious about our author here, meager

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of read up on that.

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<v Speaker 4>I know very interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Are all stories that we consume in culture and media,

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<v Speaker 1>are they some kind of wish fulfillment. Would you say,

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<v Speaker 1>Beverly Hills nine oh two one oh?

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<v Speaker 5>Was that?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh? Yeah? I mean, if you think about it, that

0:31:07.480 --> 0:31:10.160
<v Speaker 4>was the nineties. There was no Internet. Nobody knew what

0:31:10.760 --> 0:31:14.480
<v Speaker 4>life in Beverly Hills was like. But man, did it

0:31:14.680 --> 0:31:15.400
<v Speaker 4>sound good?

0:31:15.720 --> 0:31:15.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:31:16.040 --> 0:31:18.280
<v Speaker 4>And then when they got to see it on their

0:31:18.320 --> 0:31:20.720
<v Speaker 4>TV screens every week it looked good.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah.

0:31:21.360 --> 0:31:24.040
<v Speaker 4>I know people that have moved from I hear this

0:31:24.120 --> 0:31:27.040
<v Speaker 4>all the time. I moved from Germany to Beverly Hills

0:31:27.320 --> 0:31:29.040
<v Speaker 4>so that I could have this life that I saw

0:31:29.080 --> 0:31:33.120
<v Speaker 4>on my TV. And I'm kind of like, oh, how'd

0:31:33.120 --> 0:31:35.200
<v Speaker 4>that work out for you? Like, I get a little nervous,

0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:39.400
<v Speaker 4>but because it's you know, it's it's manufactured, it's not real.

0:31:39.560 --> 0:31:44.239
<v Speaker 4>Everybody's lives are challenging, but I feel like anything that

0:31:44.320 --> 0:31:48.520
<v Speaker 4>you really get lost in there is that sense of

0:31:49.320 --> 0:31:52.040
<v Speaker 4>either it's inspirational or it's aspirational.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I was watching Beverly Hills nine oh two and

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<v Speaker 1>oh from my living room and Atlanta, Georgia and just

0:31:59.480 --> 0:32:03.640
<v Speaker 1>being like, what is this world? Who are these people?

0:32:03.840 --> 0:32:05.000
<v Speaker 1>They really live like that?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was a wild, eye opening experience for the

0:32:09.200 --> 0:32:09.880
<v Speaker 4>rest of the world.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're gonna take a short break, but we'll

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<v Speaker 1>be right back with more ear Say, okay, Jenny, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do some rapid fire questions here and in a

0:32:30.240 --> 0:32:33.800
<v Speaker 1>little segment we're calling plot twist. Are you ready?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm ready?

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<v Speaker 1>All right. At one point in the original novel, mister

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<v Speaker 1>Collins reads from Fordyce's sermons two young women. They gave

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<v Speaker 1>advice like be seen and not heard, don't be vain

0:32:50.040 --> 0:32:54.280
<v Speaker 1>but be very beautiful, don't make men feel bad or insecure.

0:32:54.440 --> 0:32:58.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, really good reasonable stuff. So he reads the

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<v Speaker 1>sermons to missus Bennet and her daughters with nottonous solemnity.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're at a party and you're asked to share

0:33:07.520 --> 0:33:09.680
<v Speaker 1>a reading, what are you going to reach for? It

0:33:09.720 --> 0:33:12.160
<v Speaker 1>could be print, audio, video, whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like. My first instinct is like a roomy poem.

0:33:15.920 --> 0:33:21.360
<v Speaker 4>I would probably pull out something poetic but meaningful and insightful. Yep,

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<v Speaker 4>I like it, but certainly none of the same message

0:33:24.440 --> 0:33:26.120
<v Speaker 4>as that quote you just read.

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<v Speaker 1>There's nothing like a great poem. My grandfather used to

0:33:29.200 --> 0:33:35.080
<v Speaker 1>recite these poems at big gatherings. Robert Servis was the poet.

0:33:35.240 --> 0:33:38.640
<v Speaker 1>There are these funny, sort of long shaggy dog stories.

0:33:39.000 --> 0:33:41.920
<v Speaker 1>There's one called the Cremation of Sam McGhee. There's just

0:33:41.960 --> 0:33:45.280
<v Speaker 1>sort of these old Yukon trail stories but they rhyme

0:33:45.440 --> 0:33:48.080
<v Speaker 1>like a Johnny Cash song, and I just loved it.

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<v Speaker 1>There was no there was no message. It was just entertaining.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's like my grandfather could just hold the room

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<v Speaker 1>in these awesome stories.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh sure, it's great.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, We're going to play a clip from the

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<v Speaker 1>new Audible original Pride and Prejudice, and then I have

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<v Speaker 1>a question for you.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, how can you account about having fallen in love

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<v Speaker 4>with me? How could you begin?

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<v Speaker 5>I can't fix on the hour, or the spot or

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<v Speaker 5>the look I was in the middle before I knew

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<v Speaker 5>i'd begun. Oo.

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<v Speaker 1>They're so relaxed. I see something. So it's such a

0:34:25.600 --> 0:34:28.520
<v Speaker 1>deep confidence in their delivery. I love it.

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<v Speaker 4>They're saying, is so like meaningful.

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<v Speaker 1>Very profound. Yeah, it's very very profound. Okay, So was

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<v Speaker 1>there a moment that you knew you were in love

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<v Speaker 1>with your husband?

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<v Speaker 4>For me, it's humor. It's someone that doesn't take things

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<v Speaker 4>too seriously because I can be quite serious sometimes, so

0:34:50.960 --> 0:34:54.520
<v Speaker 4>I need that counterbalance of someone who can de escalate

0:34:54.560 --> 0:34:58.640
<v Speaker 4>a situation, add in that self deprecation and just makes

0:34:58.680 --> 0:35:00.600
<v Speaker 4>me laugh every time, and then I kind of get

0:35:00.640 --> 0:35:04.600
<v Speaker 4>out of my like, you know, this is so serious mindset.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, amen, I mean everybody is. Everybody's so wonderful and

0:35:09.960 --> 0:35:12.800
<v Speaker 1>charming out of the gate. But once he realized, like, oh,

0:35:13.200 --> 0:35:15.560
<v Speaker 1>this is a permanent part of this person.

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<v Speaker 4>Like he said, I didn't know it until I was

0:35:18.760 --> 0:35:22.800
<v Speaker 4>in the middle of it. That's so yeah true. Because

0:35:22.920 --> 0:35:25.680
<v Speaker 4>when you're with somebody, you think you love them, but

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<v Speaker 4>then you learn more and more and more about them

0:35:27.640 --> 0:35:29.640
<v Speaker 4>and you can either grow to not love them so

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<v Speaker 4>much and realize this is not a good match, or

0:35:32.200 --> 0:35:36.080
<v Speaker 4>you can find all the little ways that connect you guys.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I know, watching my husband, who's nine years younger

0:35:40.000 --> 0:35:42.920
<v Speaker 4>than me, step into this big world that I lived

0:35:43.080 --> 0:35:48.440
<v Speaker 4>and having three young step daughters to take on when

0:35:48.480 --> 0:35:52.239
<v Speaker 4>he had no children, no experience whatsoever. I saw him

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<v Speaker 4>like really trying to struggle through that and be the

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<v Speaker 4>best he could, but he didn't have any of the tools.

0:35:57.200 --> 0:35:59.439
<v Speaker 4>But now as we sort of settled into like ten

0:35:59.520 --> 0:36:03.680
<v Speaker 4>years now, seeing how that has evolved for him, his

0:36:03.719 --> 0:36:06.919
<v Speaker 4>ability to love in such a deeper, more meaningful way,

0:36:07.000 --> 0:36:10.880
<v Speaker 4>not just me, but in our daughters. I fall more

0:36:10.920 --> 0:36:13.880
<v Speaker 4>in love with him just seeing how important he is

0:36:14.040 --> 0:36:14.840
<v Speaker 4>to them.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just like you said before, having a partner willing

0:36:18.800 --> 0:36:21.640
<v Speaker 1>to grow with you, and what a growth he's gone

0:36:21.719 --> 0:36:26.320
<v Speaker 1>through to become a just instant dad. I have two girls,

0:36:26.320 --> 0:36:30.040
<v Speaker 1>but I've had the benefit of like watching watching them

0:36:30.400 --> 0:36:35.120
<v Speaker 1>become humans from the very beginning. That's a serious journey,

0:36:35.640 --> 0:36:38.200
<v Speaker 1>it really is. And it's a testament to you too,

0:36:38.600 --> 0:36:42.040
<v Speaker 1>to be a partner that can cultivate that. There's another

0:36:42.080 --> 0:36:47.759
<v Speaker 1>reimagining of Pride and Prejudice called Pride and Prejudice and Zombies,

0:36:48.360 --> 0:36:51.440
<v Speaker 1>a two thousand and nine book and a twenty sixteen movie.

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<v Speaker 1>What character from Pride and Prejudice would you want with

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<v Speaker 1>you most and least during a zombie apocalypse?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm so boring. I keep coming back to mister Darcy

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<v Speaker 4>obviously thinks it's a good answer.

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<v Speaker 1>Answer.

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<v Speaker 4>I just feel like he's gonna be able to handle things.

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<v Speaker 4>He's smart.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I give you a controversial answer?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Wickham, you think you know because he's wiy Yeah, And

0:37:21.560 --> 0:37:26.479
<v Speaker 1>I feel like he's a little dangerous, like he'll he'll

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<v Speaker 1>take care of business.

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<v Speaker 2>He know.

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<v Speaker 4>It's how to survive something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Darcy's going to help you stay like. He's going to

0:37:33.120 --> 0:37:35.400
<v Speaker 1>keep you grounded. He's going to keep you focused on

0:37:35.480 --> 0:37:37.840
<v Speaker 1>survival and the courage, and he's going to say all

0:37:37.880 --> 0:37:40.440
<v Speaker 1>the right things. I think he's a tough guy, but

0:37:40.480 --> 0:37:44.200
<v Speaker 1>I do feel like Wickham in The Zombie Apocalypse might

0:37:44.320 --> 0:37:45.920
<v Speaker 1>just be a better utility player.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I see it.

0:37:47.520 --> 0:37:53.799
<v Speaker 1>Uh okay. Miss Bingley says that to call a woman accomplished,

0:37:54.080 --> 0:37:58.120
<v Speaker 1>she needs to be skilled in singing, drawing, dancing, and languages,

0:37:58.160 --> 0:38:02.720
<v Speaker 1>plus a certain say qua. Darcy adds that she also

0:38:02.800 --> 0:38:06.680
<v Speaker 1>needs to be very well read. Kind of a long list.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I have to sing, I have to dance.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is a this is a very I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to you know, I'm going.

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<v Speaker 4>To just go with the Genessee qua because I think

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<v Speaker 4>that's where it's at.

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<v Speaker 1>That's your must have in a partner. Yeah, that's the

0:38:19.600 --> 0:38:22.880
<v Speaker 1>right they just need. So you don't need a partner

0:38:22.920 --> 0:38:27.200
<v Speaker 1>to be a good singer, drawer, dancer or no multiple languages,

0:38:27.960 --> 0:38:30.080
<v Speaker 1>uh just qua.

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<v Speaker 4>I kind of would be into somebody. Well, my husband's

0:38:33.880 --> 0:38:37.640
<v Speaker 4>not the best dancer, so it be really fun to

0:38:37.640 --> 0:38:40.400
<v Speaker 4>have a guy that could dance, but more importantly is

0:38:40.400 --> 0:38:41.200
<v Speaker 4>the Genessee Qua.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're right because that is that's the most

0:38:45.680 --> 0:38:49.560
<v Speaker 1>open ended dancer. Yeah, right, like Jenna qua is just

0:38:49.840 --> 0:38:53.480
<v Speaker 1>is like something you like and it's gonna be different

0:38:53.480 --> 0:38:57.000
<v Speaker 1>for everybody. So yeah, they got to have that. Is

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<v Speaker 1>there anything that you would have? Are there any must

0:38:59.760 --> 0:39:03.560
<v Speaker 1>have a partner for you that you know apart from

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<v Speaker 1>this list? Are there any must haves in a partner?

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<v Speaker 4>Honesty? It's just it's hard. It's hard to be honest

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<v Speaker 4>all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 4>I also humor right at the top of my list, accountability.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm I there's a book that I read that has

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<v Speaker 4>made such a difference in my Life's called the Four Agreements.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, sure, the ancient Toll Tech Wisdom.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the one. That's the one, and one of the

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<v Speaker 4>four agreements is be impeccable with your word. Yes, I

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<v Speaker 4>think there's something so important there. Whether you're the one

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<v Speaker 4>giving your word or you're the one receiving someone else's word,

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<v Speaker 4>it's important that you do what you say you're going

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<v Speaker 4>to do. You are who you say you are, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree. I read that book like thirty years ago.

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<v Speaker 4>It's always a good reread.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Yeah, and that one in particular, I think was

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<v Speaker 1>a kind of an eye opener because it's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>of course you want to be honest when you navigate

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<v Speaker 1>the world, but the way it's explained and laid out,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really much more of an ethos, a way to

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<v Speaker 1>move through the world with a sense of truth and integrity.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good one. That's a juicy one.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a juicy one.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that you nailed plot twist.

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<v Speaker 4>I did.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I think you got all the answers.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, I feel like I did pretty good. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. So, Jinny, what is a recommendation that you have

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<v Speaker 1>a book or an audiobook for our listeners?

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<v Speaker 4>Gosh, I go back to those books that Jonathan Livingston Siegel.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if you ever read that book. That's

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<v Speaker 4>an old bit a goodie painted such a visual in

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<v Speaker 4>my mind, and there was some lasting lesson in that

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<v Speaker 4>about being who you are unapologetically and owning that.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds right up your alley, really, and that is

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely a classic and a great recommendation. Jonathan Livingston Seagull

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<v Speaker 1>by Richard Bach. Yes, great, Jenny Garth, it was so wonderful.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you here on earsay as our very first guest.

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<v Speaker 1>What a blast. Thanks being a member of our club.

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<v Speaker 1>You're in the club, remember you got in.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel so special.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll send you your little card. You can carry it

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<v Speaker 1>around with you. Okay, thank you, and don't forget listeners.

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<v Speaker 1>You can hear Jenny Garth on the iHeart podcast I

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<v Speaker 1>choose Me check it out now. I gotta tell you

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<v Speaker 1>deconstructing Pride and Prejudice with Jenny Garth a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, she seems like the absolute best and I mean

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<v Speaker 2>very cool for us to have her on our very

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<v Speaker 2>first episode of the show. I think we grew up

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<v Speaker 2>around the original Beverly nine two one zero era, so

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<v Speaker 2>big sort of nerding out over that for.

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<v Speaker 1>Us, absolutely, and it's very cool how she's sort of

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<v Speaker 1>taken an iconic line from her character and really made

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<v Speaker 1>it a message for living a better life. So to

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<v Speaker 1>our audience, thank you for tuning in to this first

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<v Speaker 1>episode of Earsay. The Audible and iHeart Audiobook Club will

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<v Speaker 1>be recording these episodes right as these audiobooks are coming out.

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<v Speaker 1>The next will be a conversation about season two of

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<v Speaker 1>the Audible original The Prophecy with series creator Randy McKinnon.

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<v Speaker 1>Cal you get to do that one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I do so. The Prophecy is an audio drama

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<v Speaker 2>starring Kerrie Washington, Laurence Fishburne, Daniel Daykim. The premise is

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<v Speaker 2>basically a question, what if the Bible wasn't made up

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<v Speaker 2>of stories that happened in the past, but prophecies that

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<v Speaker 2>were going to happen in the future. Yeah, it's pretty wild.

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<v Speaker 2>I've listened to it and it is incredible. The way

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<v Speaker 2>the sound design works too. You really feel like, for example,

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<v Speaker 2>you're on a moving train with these folks, you're you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the stresses that you have are the ones that they have.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the whole question of reality versus what people

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<v Speaker 2>are experiencing was impactful. The whole thing was a wild listen,

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<v Speaker 2>so I can't wait.

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