1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: He was training for Drake his whole career. 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 2: So even now with those slick shots, if you're asking me, 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 2: I still believe those slick shots that he's throwing to 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 2: literally be at Drake, because you can tell it ain't 5 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 2: at Kendrick. And he always says the Big Three process 6 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 2: of elimination says what they have to be going at Drake. 7 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 2: He's like one of those guys that they put in 8 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 2: the ring that's like, hey, we're making you for Tyson. 9 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 2: In his mind, I believe Drake to be the intimate 10 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 2: threat when he was on his way up and all 11 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 2: his skill set start to gear more towards being able 12 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 2: to compete with that kind of style, not this kind 13 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 2: of style that Kendrick's. 14 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: Able to exhibit. 15 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 2: I want people at the him, at the cutting edge 16 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 2: of this culture to always remember that your moves not 17 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 2: only win games, it changes the game. Lewayne came out 18 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 2: in a time where he was undervalue than the market 19 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 2: and said that I'm the best rapper alive while jay 20 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: Z was over there going platinum. Because it's still for 21 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 2: more than just Wayne. It's still for the South. And 22 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 2: so I'm looking for j Cole to give us that 23 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 2: spirit because that's the only way the South get to 24 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 2: come up in the conversation. If you ask me, put 25 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 2: it all on the line for hip hop, go all 26 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 2: the way for hip hop, ruin your sanity for hipop, 27 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 2: disturb your peace for hipop. These niggas that tell you 28 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 2: do all that and they'll leave you like they did 29 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 2: g Depp while they took a picture with someone and 30 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 2: meet Mill clearly has an issue with I think his 31 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 2: name is Dean. He's been on academic show exposing Meet Mill. 32 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 2: He was one of his guys and a lot of times. 33 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 2: How you get verified, you can sneak by if a 34 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 2: lot of around you verified. That's how they sneak by. 35 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 2: They sneak in with a bunch of real names. They 36 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 2: sneak by. Can you turn your homeboys into haters? Money 37 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 2: brings attention, the attention that comes with money. Some people 38 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 2: have good intentions, some people have bad intention Right, it 39 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 2: brings attention. You better take notice to intention. So the 40 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 2: attention that it brings, it brings a lot of people 41 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 2: around you. What will happen is you'll have your homeboard 42 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,519 Speaker 2: next to you and you don't leave them nothing else 43 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 2: to do butt hate on you. See you got a 44 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 2: bunch of people around you for no reason. 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A member 77 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 2: on YouTube, I appreciate you. I'm not sure how any 78 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 2: other way you will get this piece of content, but 79 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 2: whatever way you stumbled up on it, I appreciate you 80 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 2: because you found interest in the kid. 81 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 1: J cole apology. 82 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 2: A lot of people around the coach is having mixed 83 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 2: feelings about it. I've seen a couple reactions, so I 84 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 2: want to add too those my reaction to the reactions. Right, 85 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 2: So you have styles. Peter says battle doesn't live that way. 86 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,799 Speaker 2: You got Joe Budden saying something. Charlemagne applaud J Cole 87 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 2: because it's basically like YO with that disc we kind 88 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 2: of felt like you didn't really want to dance anyway. 89 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 1: It was evident it was a parent, right. 90 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 2: So you deal with that, You deal with Charleston White 91 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 2: saying that you know he has a good hard You 92 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 2: frame these things in hip hop, right, and so now 93 00:04:54,440 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 2: my conversation running alongside all of those reactions today will 94 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,239 Speaker 2: be a different I'll try to take a different angle. 95 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 2: Number one, J Cole, me and Simba argued about this 96 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 2: shut out the symbol. I went tote to told with symbol, 97 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 2: trying to put J Cole in a position to. 98 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: Say they got Ja Cole messed up. 99 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 2: And I'm not sure why they looking at Ja Cole 100 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 2: as if he can't get out there and dance with 101 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 2: them boys, he gonna be the one to surprise them. 102 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 2: This is my argument, right, J Cole is someone that 103 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 2: comes from the South. Today, I'm gonna try to help 104 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 2: J Cole with understanding that nothing big is done alone. 105 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 2: I got a unique perspective because as soon as the 106 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 2: Kendrick Lamar disk dropped, I was out on the West coast, 107 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 2: so I had interaction with some of the guys on 108 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 2: the West coast that matter. They got a voice sitting 109 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 2: the coach, and so they strong about Kendrick like we 110 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 2: was going at it because for me, I'm always saying 111 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 2: they better neutralized Pluto because he the boy that seemed 112 00:05:57,839 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 2: to be bulletproof. When it comes to all of this, 113 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 2: it's corny talk. All of this broke talk like I 114 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 2: don't know what you're gonna be able to do. And 115 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 2: he locked in with Metro that's gonna be the neutralizer 116 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 2: while they all think everything gonna be rapid it, rapid it, right. 117 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: So that's my position. 118 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 2: Cold I put him out there, and I try to 119 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 2: tell people to be careful when you balk up some 120 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 2: of these trees. You know, people in the coach, you 121 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 2: always say, don't balk up that tree. 122 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 1: That tree might. 123 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 3: Fall on you. Right. 124 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 2: Jay Z is known for having that quote in one 125 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,799 Speaker 2: of his lyrics. Sometimes the tree is rooted so deep 126 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 2: and it's such a big tree. It's such a big deal, nigga, 127 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 2: the branch is shaking. 128 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: Off this tree. Are killed you? 129 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 2: I bury you niggas with the branches of this tree. 130 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 2: I don't work so hard on this tree. It's rooted, man. 131 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 2: So you come shaking this tree before the tree come down. 132 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 2: Some of these branches gonna come falling off, and so 133 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 2: many branches, so many business is attached to it, so 134 00:06:56,160 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 2: many people love it, so many people engaged with it. 135 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: So many people live die bad. 136 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 2: Right, So it's like attacking this these branches all falling 137 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 2: on you and bury you. J Cole got in a 138 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 2: position to where he instantly bagged out of the competition. Today, 139 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:18,239 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be as harsh on j Cole doing 140 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 2: what was best for him, because I understand protecting your 141 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 2: mental health. But I am gonna bring some things to 142 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 2: the forefront that may be uncomfortable if he ever runs 143 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 2: across this video. Earlier you heard me tell you guys 144 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 2: that he was training for He was training for Drake 145 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 2: his whole career. So even now with those slick shots, 146 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 2: if you're asking me, I still believe those slick shots 147 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 2: that he's throwing to literally be at Drake, because you 148 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 2: can tell it ain't at Kendrick. And he always says 149 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 2: the Big Three process of elimination says what they have 150 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 2: to be going at Drake. 151 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: This is my narrative. 152 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 2: On top of that, all of those this is an 153 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 2: interesting when you back on them, because I know half 154 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 2: of the culture, not even just in rep I'm talking 155 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 2: about in the hood, everywhere in this culture. Half of 156 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 2: this shit they beat you on bravado. So they try 157 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 2: to beat you with bravado. That's why you're him. They 158 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 2: don't want to test me dogging, you know, it's like 159 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 2: swatten or flying out right. 160 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: Because it's a bravado match. 161 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 2: I remember being in a position one time and an 162 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 2: old head in jail told me said, man, these dudes 163 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 2: don't really want to hurt each other. It's just be 164 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 2: people looking. It's just a lot going on to kind 165 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 2: of force they hand. But if you go in the 166 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 2: room and lock the door and say let's do it, 167 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 2: me and you right here, nobody gonna see it. Best 168 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 2: man come out. A lot of these guys gonna find 169 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 2: a way to talk their way out of those scenarios. 170 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 2: And so I took that, and I've always looked at it, 171 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 2: and I remember the first time I put that to test, 172 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 2: and I was always willing if I go there, because 173 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 2: they had me food, thinking they're going now everybody's willing 174 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 2: to go thereto. I went there and figured out ain't 175 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 2: nobody else. I went out the way and figured out 176 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 2: I'm known the one out here. So Now this is 177 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 2: a game. This is a trick. They played right, and 178 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 2: so with rep you see that same kind of thing. 179 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 2: It's just morphed until they try to whoop you with 180 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:20,839 Speaker 2: the bravado. Hopefully I wrap over here good enough to 181 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:22,839 Speaker 2: see that. Man, I don't really want it with cold 182 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 2: in regards to Cole's mental health, right, because I understand 183 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 2: that you do have to be considerate. Everybody can't everybody 184 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 2: can't navigate because it is chaos and conflict and you 185 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 2: got to be considerate of everyone's mental health. But it'll 186 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 2: lead you to believe that someone has been doing something 187 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,599 Speaker 2: that doesn't contribute to a part of the game that 188 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 2: should be developed, at least in this facet. Again, I'll 189 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 2: double down. I believe he's been in the gym waiting 190 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,199 Speaker 2: on Drake. He's like one of those guys that they 191 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 2: put in the ring that's like, hey, we're making you 192 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 2: for Tyson. 193 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 1: In his mind. 194 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 2: I believe Drake to be the intimate threat when he 195 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 2: was on his way up and all his skill sets 196 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 2: start to gear more towards being able to compete with 197 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 2: that kind of style, not this kind of style that 198 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 2: Kendrick's able to exhibit. But when Cole lays down in 199 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 2: this instance. He don't understand that not only do we 200 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 2: lay down for his career or whatever he has going 201 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 2: on and protect his mental health, he laid out for 202 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 2: the entire South. I want to be clear, because I'm 203 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 2: not someone that's just talking. Let's do some history when 204 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 2: we deal with the entertainment business as a whole as 205 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 2: it pertains the media and people who tend to be 206 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 2: at the forefront of creating the narratives about who what 207 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 2: win and weigh in his culture. Sometimes we have these 208 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 2: just bleaps of history that you don't know. It just 209 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 2: popped up with jay Z on the boat with Big pimping, right. 210 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 2: There's stories to go along with some of these things 211 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 2: that I think are not told in a way that 212 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 2: represents the same impact in this whole game as a whole. 213 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 2: Let's set that to the side for a second and 214 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 2: just deal with Cole, think about media, think about the South. 215 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 2: I remember that was a time when I was young, 216 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 2: Lil Wayne was rapping better than everybody in the world. 217 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 1: It wasn't even up for debate. 218 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 2: It was a clear landslide that anyone that grabs a 219 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 2: mic Wayne is out rapping them, and that go for 220 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 2: the big three, that go for that time, They go 221 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 2: for your Jay's your nauss. Whoever grabbed a mic at 222 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 2: that time when Lil Wayne was running around smoking shit, 223 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 2: they knew what it was. 224 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: Now. 225 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 2: The interesting thing is, as I view it from the South, 226 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 2: is Yo, they didn't want to give Wayne his bread. 227 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 2: They didn't want to give Wayne's credit. And so what 228 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 2: do you see Wayne doing in a time when he 229 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 2: could have win and signed with jay Z at a 230 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 2: time when he was trying to respect j but he 231 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 2: would let it be I'm the best, the last name Carter, 232 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,199 Speaker 2: the best rapper alive that. 233 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 1: Don't dispute or exclude nobody. 234 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 2: Lewayne came out in a time where he was undervalued 235 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 2: in the market and said that I'm the best rapper alive. 236 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: While jay Z was over there going platinum. 237 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 2: Jay Z was on his way really out the game 238 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 2: or doing what he kind of do, you know, trying 239 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 2: to still dictate culture, doing his thing. But Wayne wanted 240 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 2: laying down for that because it's still for more than 241 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 2: just Wayne, It's still for the South. So what he 242 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 2: had to do, Oh, they ain't gonna give it to 243 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 2: me just because I'm rapping more. 244 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: I'm rapping better. I'm using his beats. 245 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 2: I remember when he went and jumped on that Carolina 246 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 2: Blue Beers and smoked that, and everybody in rap know 247 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 2: that that particular beat and flowing style that Jay did 248 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 2: on that was like classic. So Wayne started to grab 249 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 2: them classic beats, jacking for beats and start smoking the 250 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 2: classic beats in the middle of them, trying to dispute 251 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 2: the fact that he wanted the best rappers alive. And 252 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 2: so I'm looking for j Cole to give us that 253 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 2: spirit because that's the only way the South get to 254 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 2: come up in the conversation. If you ask me right, 255 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 2: when we talk about pure talent, it couldn't even be 256 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 2: disputed what Wayne was at that time. I think it's 257 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 2: absurd to think that Kendrick doesn't know that. If he 258 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 2: lays down, that's an l for the West Coast, that's 259 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 2: an al for Comton. You speak for the dudes under you, right, 260 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 2: the dudes that come from Fairville. 261 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: If you even know right how this works. That's why 262 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:34,319 Speaker 1: I be so. 263 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 2: Loud, and it looked like I'm rattled up right, because 264 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 2: I'm in the industry where I gotta protect my interest 265 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 2: and also do business. But be loud about what I'm 266 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 2: witness because I'm lighting the room. Even if I can't 267 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 2: figure it out, it's a nigga behind me picking up 268 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 2: some of these driplets. That's gonna say. Loan taught me that. 269 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 2: Loan helped me figure that out just by as he 270 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 2: was going through it. Here's the thing. If you're in 271 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 2: this business, you know how this works. If you're in 272 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 2: this culture, you know how this works. I remember a 273 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 2: time where Hurricane Katrina had happened, and everybody that came 274 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 2: from New Orleans, Louisiana, no matter where they went, if 275 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 2: you wasn't in the streets for real, you just kind 276 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 2: of gave them the rep of what New Orleans had 277 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 2: at that time, like murder capital of the world. Oh man, 278 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 2: you're crazy. Oh man, you come from New Man Them 279 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 2: here that are crazy, boy. And but I got people 280 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 2: that I love from New Orleans, So I know, you 281 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. I know certain things and certain 282 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 2: individuals and highest rocking and who is what and what 283 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 2: areas and certain things. But there will be squabs that 284 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 2: will cloak themselves behind the New Orleans thing, the New 285 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 2: York thing. The same thing with Chicago. You can be 286 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 2: a chance the rapper coming out of Chicago. But if 287 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 2: it ain't clearsed, it can be somewhere in a boardroom 288 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 2: or in an executive meeting, somebody can say that them 289 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 2: Chicago guys are kind of crazy. They might go to jail, 290 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 2: they might die because of the resume, the reputation, right 291 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 2: ty that back to j Cole with you bowing out 292 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 2: like that, If hip hop ever gets truly competitive, whoever 293 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 2: comes from that area now has that chinking their armor, 294 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 2: that people from that area. And that's why zoom I 295 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 2: didn't say even for the South. Again, in contrast to 296 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 2: Lil Wayne Lewayne went and got on them kind of beats. 297 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 2: They tempos. Oh so y'all want to say, it's the 298 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 2: beast that's carrying me. Hey, yo, y'all shoot me some beats. 299 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 2: They start getting on pure New York style beats. Smoking 300 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 2: it had came undeniable in my opinion. You saw t 301 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 2: I have to grab and snatch his position. I'm king 302 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 2: of the South. Now his doesn't threaten the rest of 303 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 2: the market in the same way that Wayne did. But 304 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 2: from the South, we gotta fight for position every single time, 305 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 2: even though we're the most influential the industry. Still it 306 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 2: still lives in certain places. We haven't built certain things 307 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 2: in a way what we reflective in some of these conversations. 308 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 2: And that's what we're trying to help with. But check 309 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 2: this out. I'm from the South. When j Cole gets 310 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 2: into it, he apologizes, I say to myself, man, damn man. 311 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 2: And so when Ja Cole see this, if he happens 312 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 2: to see this, it's imperative that you know how effective 313 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 2: that was that you've just done. And I know you 314 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 2: protecting your mental health because it's chaos and conflict. It 315 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 2: gets extremely hard and difficult. But those shots and this 316 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 2: competitive sport that we're in it calls for you to 317 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 2: represent not only yourself, your legacy and your brand, but 318 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 2: even the guys that come from the region you come from, 319 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 2: let alone the state and city. Because whoever come out 320 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 2: of that city now got it. Deal with that. If 321 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 2: it gets competitive, if it's love it, dove it, then 322 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 2: they never have to deal with it. I want people 323 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 2: at the helm, at the cutting edge of this culture 324 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:16,360 Speaker 2: to always remember that your moves not only win games, 325 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 2: it changes the game. 326 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 1: And see, this is. 327 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 2: The thing about people like a Jake Cole or some 328 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 2: of these guys that really, in my opinion, go from 329 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 2: chasing the spotlight to controlling the spotlight, and because their 330 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 2: behavior don't change, it kind of still seems why they 331 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 2: have the spotlight, they're still chasing the spotlight. There was 332 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 2: no reason for you to be throwing shots like that 333 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 2: unless they was at the boy that only can be three. 334 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: It was only three of y'all. 335 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 2: You mentioned it twenty five times that clearly your shots 336 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 2: clearly haven't been going at Kendrick. They had to be 337 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 2: going at Drake. It just so happened Drake neutralized you. 338 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 2: I think that J cole On hit it in the 339 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 2: morning with Drake figured out that I might be closer 340 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 2: to to this dude than I think. I may be 341 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 2: closer to being able to do what he does in 342 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 2: the booth than I think. If I can just work 343 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 2: on it, I can kind of I can live over 344 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 2: here where he's living that he's about to change the 345 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:14,719 Speaker 2: game over here and try to beat us with this. 346 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 2: But I'm gonna get us. I'm gonna be able to 347 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 2: do this. The Kendrick thing is different. I think it 348 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 2: just tamples with the integrity of your brand at this point. 349 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 2: Right when you someone like j. Cole because, in my opinion, 350 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 2: talented individual, and again, protect your mental health. That's your 351 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 2: business to jump out there like that and then have 352 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 2: to pull it back, and the way you pulled it back, 353 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 2: it just damages the integrity of the brand a little bit. 354 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 2: But preserve your soul, right, because I also hit aside 355 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 2: of media that I'm not gonna agree with. You know, 356 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 2: I was just disappointed. I was disappointed in Cole Man. 357 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 2: Trust me, I know the fight. I know how sucker 358 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 2: is this game is when you get into some of 359 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 2: these things that they try to frame his combat. If 360 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 2: you understan right, if you just play close attention, you'll 361 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 2: notice how they framed me. And because I'm in media, 362 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 2: I have a green light to speak about everything. 363 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 1: See. You gotta remember Cole. 364 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 2: I know how many verses Bunbee had to do when 365 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 2: he was repping out the gym for fifteen years before 366 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 2: he started even getting recognized because of the slang and 367 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 2: the twain right, And this ain't about division. This is 368 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 2: about helping Cole understand that it meant more than just 369 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 2: your career and you bowing out. It meant something as 370 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 2: it pertains the hip hop. There's a deeper conversation to 371 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 2: be had about not only do your home runs win 372 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 2: the games, your strikeouts lose the games. And who do 373 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 2: I think understood that when he sat on his own, 374 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 2: when he was by hisself, all the labelmates had left, 375 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 2: the business had got shaky. He stood up on the 376 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,479 Speaker 2: heel and said, Nigga, they left me by myself and 377 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 2: I went the gym and I got better than everybody. 378 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 2: I'm the best rapper in the world. And when they 379 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 2: pushed back and they said, no, jay Z still doing 380 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 2: his thing, Lil Wayne, you don't remember. Jay Z is 381 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 2: still out there. And he started throwing more shots in 382 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 2: his lyrics. Man, listen, when you talk about Carter who 383 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 2: you're dealing with hell And in the midst of it all, 384 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 2: I feel in the midst of it all, he come 385 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 2: out to smoke. 386 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 3: Say wait, nothing like that like Closs. 387 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 2: Like when they say yo, jay Z shout out to Jake. 388 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 2: Jay was doing his thing. But when he comes from 389 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 2: the South. Who were talking about that. 390 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 4: Out you never. 391 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 3: I never up. 392 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 2: I'm talking about in the midst of it, you got 393 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 2: Wayne jump out the He. 394 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: Jumped right out the plane. Old niggas talk. 395 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 4: To me, not see you forever From me to you 396 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 4: about to say, Chuck, I'm gonna need a solp. I'm 397 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,360 Speaker 4: gonna need a coop. I don't need a roof. Try 398 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 4: it and be the juice being the juice, being the juice. 399 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 4: I got the float trunk and see the roof. Didn't 400 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 4: wearp for the proof, so I got shot and you 401 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 4: could see the proof blind ice to look at me 402 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 4: and see the truth. One dear steevie dude, But I'm 403 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 4: gonna leave it to God. 404 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: Not be beneath of you again. 405 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,679 Speaker 2: Sometimes, man, you know you're looking forward to that, not 406 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 2: even if he gotta be, because nobody, nobody really stepped 407 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 2: in front of the dude. 408 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: When he was out there like that. 409 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 2: It was just so painfully obvious that whatever style, whatever, be, whatever. 410 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 1: You want to do. 411 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 2: And Cole was given resemblance of that, and I was 412 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 2: applaud from the South, like, yeah, show them that we 413 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 2: ain't just gotta get on trap beats. And he kind 414 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 2: of birthed the genre. He kind of helped birth a 415 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 2: genre off of Kanye and off of Drake. He kind 416 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 2: of lived in this space that they said, oh but 417 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,919 Speaker 2: he from the South, He from FeH, he from oh 418 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 2: from the South, getting on like that exactly and so 419 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 2: oh it was a good representation. But again you've seen 420 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 2: what way ain't done. But I also want to be 421 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 2: clear too though, right because everything ain't peaches and cream 422 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 2: with hip hop. You know, everything don't pay like it wig, 423 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 2: Everything ain't good as it looks. It's to show business, 424 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And so at the same time, 425 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 2: with all those things on the line, and you choose yourself, 426 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 2: I can't never blame you for that. 427 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: And all these. 428 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 2: Media guys that's saying leave it all on the line 429 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 2: for hip hop. See these guys here grew up in 430 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 2: hip hop. I'm talking about a lot of these individuals 431 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 2: are privileged souls. They had deals at seventeen and sixteen. 432 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 2: They don't even know what it's like to have saved 433 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 2: your life by way of this. And now you've become 434 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:48,199 Speaker 2: a better man. So you gotta ignored the rhetoric. You 435 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,479 Speaker 2: gotta be calculated and ignore the rhetoric. And I think 436 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 2: it's unfortunate that you hear these dudes from the stands, 437 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 2: from the same hip hop that'd done them wrong. Put 438 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 2: it all on the line for hipop, go all the 439 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 2: way for hip hop. Ruin your sanity for hipop. Disturb 440 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 2: your peace for hipop. These niggas that tell you do 441 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 2: all that and they'll leave you like they did. G 442 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 2: depth hip hop, don't help pay no bills out here. 443 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 2: Fat Joe and them holling from the stands Jo, we 444 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 2: gotta figure something out about this thing. We gotta put 445 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 2: some money to the side about this hip hoop thing. 446 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 2: Ain't nobody paying attention. With all due respect, I love hipop, 447 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 2: I grew up in hipop. I am hipop. This ain't 448 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 2: one of them stories from the outside critique. And I'm 449 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 2: telling you from the inside of the house. The roof 450 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 2: is leaking, right. So when you say leave it all 451 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,719 Speaker 2: on the field, call disturb your peace, disturb your mental, 452 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 2: disturb everything for hipop. One has the question what was 453 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 2: hip hop for rock? Saying chante, what about Craig Mack 454 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 2: some people that made significant contributions. 455 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: To hip hop? What was it that for Lord Infamous? 456 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 2: It's unfortunately because there's a few select voices in media 457 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 2: that now that they're on the bench, they forgot what 458 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 2: it was like to leave it all on the court, 459 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 2: so much so that you some people leave injured. When 460 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 2: you're left injured on the court. Sometimes they'll call it 461 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 2: from the injury. His career is done. From the court. 462 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 2: You still on the court. A doctor ain't even looked 463 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 2: at it. They don't give a damn about none believing 464 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,239 Speaker 2: it on the court. But it's easy to say that 465 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 2: from the bench. It's unfortunate that you say that, especially 466 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 2: under the guys that yo. I'm one of the guys 467 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 2: that left it all on the court. So if you 468 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 2: left it all on the court, you know one thing. 469 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 2: I want to do everything but get injured. You're asking 470 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 2: me to damage my mental you want me to have 471 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 2: a brain injury because clearly I'm not down for the fight. Now, 472 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 2: I agree, you don't take those shots unless they were 473 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 2: for Aubrey. That's in my opinion. That's in my opinion, 474 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 2: wasn't prepared for Kendrick. On the competitive side of hip hop, 475 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 2: there's always a notion that the South isn't war ready. 476 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 2: So I think the South took a hit as it 477 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 2: pertains to that, you know, with j Cole's antics and 478 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 2: the pulling of the song, the coming out with the song, 479 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,679 Speaker 2: the coming out with the apology. But again we stand Fermone. 480 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 2: You need to always do what's best for you. I mean, 481 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 2: I don't think he has the ability to exist in 482 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 2: the chaos that come along with a real rap beef 483 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 2: with another powerful entity. I think if he's punching down 484 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,199 Speaker 2: and it's clear that he's the winner, it looks different. 485 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 2: But this is how it stakes. This is royal rumble. 486 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 2: I explained to y'all earlier. Everyone in the ring at 487 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 2: this point is turned to Drake. We're gonna get him 488 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 2: out of the ring, and then we'll squabble Ford after that. 489 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 2: But this now becomes the kind of match that Cole 490 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 2: has now been thrown out of the ring. He ain't 491 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 2: thrown out of the league, but this particular match, this 492 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 2: royal rumble, this thing here, well, King is either gonna 493 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:04,959 Speaker 2: be crowned or Undertaker gonna win another WrestleMania, right, And 494 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 2: so that's that's, in my opinion, what we're looking at. 495 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 2: But it's always a narrative that the South isn't war ready, 496 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 2: and so again, hip hop is competitive, you know, and 497 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,880 Speaker 2: sometimes you have to deal with that. I don't think 498 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 2: he kills J Cole's career. I think it damaged the 499 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 2: integrity of the brand. And yeah, and that's that. But 500 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 2: that's that's my take on the j Cole apology, A 501 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 2: couple of reactions to some reactions. 502 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: Let's go on. 503 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 2: I want to speak about the Meek milling Wila and 504 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 2: then we'll get out of here. So Meek milling Willa 505 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 2: is having an issue. For those unaware WrestleMania was in Philadelphia, 506 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 2: Meek milling Wille are both former artists of Rick Ross's 507 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 2: label MMG and supposed friends in the industry. This industry 508 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,199 Speaker 2: is a weird place anyway, man. I think when you're 509 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 2: running a real one in this industry, you gotta lock 510 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 2: those in and appreciate those relationships because everything is so 511 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 2: fickle and it's so based around power dynamics that it 512 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 2: is starting to be nasty out there now for those 513 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 2: guys being label mates. While took a picture with someone 514 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 2: and meet Mill clearly has an issue with I think 515 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 2: his name is Dean. He's been on Academics Show exposing 516 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,919 Speaker 2: Meek Mill. He was one of his guys. I'm not 517 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,120 Speaker 2: sure what he really said on Academic show. 518 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: I know him. 519 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 2: Even going on the show is it just puts everything 520 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 2: in a very weird place, right, Being someone that grew 521 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 2: up with him going to someone who's clearly exploring you guys. 522 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 2: He's exploring the street dudes. I think that's nasty. It's 523 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 2: kind of nasty work. But it's self interest. It's ringing. 524 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 2: It's like, yo, it's a platform. I got something for sale. 525 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 2: I'm hustling, dude, don't write It's like, man, you gotta 526 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 2: wait this shit. We'll get to that a little later. 527 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 2: But I'm a deal with Meek Mill and Willet. Some 528 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 2: people say that Meek is overreact because it's WrestleMania's in Philly. 529 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 2: What you expect, like dudes can pull up on dudes. 530 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 2: And I kind of understand that. But then I say, Yo, 531 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 2: the picture isn't innocent. This isn't an innocent picture. This 532 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 2: says something, even if it's from the other guy's position. 533 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 534 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 2: You're helping them say something when they're saying these things 535 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 2: about me, man, and I think that they know that. 536 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 2: I don't think that their thoughts is absent of that. 537 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 2: I think that people can say, yo, I'm gonna stay 538 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 2: out of it, like while they say it, while they 539 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 2: like yo, y'all brothers, y'all got a little beef, I'm 540 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 2: staying out of that. I don't know if he needs 541 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 2: to choose sides. But I'm not sure if he needs 542 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 2: to pose for a picture this early in the conflict, right. 543 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 2: I think the posing of the picture this early in 544 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 2: the conflict, it comes off as some kind of signal, 545 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 2: some kind of symbol to meet meal that Yo, I'm 546 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 2: loud and clear, like I'm on the other side of 547 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 2: this thing, even though it's seven years after. Like I 548 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 2: ain't forgot, like we ain't never really been strong like that. 549 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 2: Whatever that's worth, that's worth. I want to deal with 550 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 2: the individuals in the culture or in the world. There's 551 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 2: just people that's of high value, that's earners in the world, 552 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 2: the people that's making money, and the top percent of 553 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 2: the families. I think everybody needs to be paying attention 554 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 2: right now to what's taking place as it pertains to 555 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 2: the media, and not only the media, but the culture, 556 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 2: because I ain't gonna be able to put everything on 557 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 2: the media. The culture is reactive to this kind of thing. 558 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 2: I think it's important for people with money to really 559 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 2: understand how to navigate opportunity for the wolves and the 560 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 2: people that's around them, because a lot of people are 561 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 2: on your team, but opportunity is what keeps them in line. 562 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 2: There's people on the bench of the team that when 563 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,719 Speaker 2: we won the championship, when the picture come they standing 564 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 2: way over here with they hand on the on the trophy. 565 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: They just want in the picture. 566 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 2: Demis that don't Demnini is right there, the news that 567 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 2: ain't really got a lot to do with it, and 568 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 2: they in the picture. But they in on the team, 569 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 2: but they they just them niggas right there. They come 570 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 2: by in the ad. Whoever holds that trophy at the end, 571 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 2: there's some resentment from somewhere on the team, and it's 572 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 2: unfortunate because it's supposed to be a community effort, but 573 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 2: there's people that want the position. 574 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: That you hold. 575 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 2: And that's just how this game works. And so I 576 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 2: say that to say the main character has to be careful. 577 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 2: It's so it's so easy to get main character syndrome. 578 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 2: You gotta be careful when you hold the trophy. And 579 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 2: it's a team game, because rap is a team game. 580 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 2: Even though you make out the music, when these rappers 581 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 2: come from the hood, they living off immage. There's certain 582 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 2: things that happen in the backdrop that lends itself to 583 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 2: the credibility that makes those raps penetrate the airwaves and 584 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 2: the ghettos of America. There's a weird attachment to credibility 585 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 2: and creation in particular in rap music that I think 586 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 2: needs to be highlighted when you speak about these things. 587 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 2: And it's a collaborative effort because a lot of times 588 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 2: rappers have to be verified to be able to pop 589 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 2: that kind of shit. And a lot of times, how 590 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 2: you get verified. You can sneak by if a lot 591 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 2: of needs around you verified. That's how they sneak by. 592 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 2: They sneak in with a bunch of reals. They sneak by. 593 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 2: That's what you got to kind of understand that in 594 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 2: the rap world is so important to be verified. Let's 595 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 2: get back to the trophy analogy and let's deal with 596 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 2: the main character. Need to be aware and cognizant not 597 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 2: to disconnect from the other people on the team, even 598 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 2: though he is the main component. 599 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: He is the engine. But you also need breaks. You 600 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: also need a seatbelt if bof hit the fan and 601 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: somebody hit you. You dig what I'm saying. 602 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,239 Speaker 2: You have to remember that this is a system that 603 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 2: you're working in and not disconnect and get that main 604 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 2: character syndrome. And this is for all of us to 605 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 2: understand is working these high powered positions, because what happens is, 606 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 2: in all reality, we're extremely lucky individuals to be able 607 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 2: to speak for a living or were in a very 608 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 2: strange place and strange position that we need to actually 609 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 2: appreciate and we have a certain power where that go 610 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 2: along with us being us right and we're able to 611 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 2: change things and help people. It's like, YO, tap into 612 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 2: that and do what do the right thing? What tends 613 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 2: to happen with the star point guard or the star 614 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 2: running back, or the star quarterback or to start goalie. 615 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 2: What tends to happen is you get the main character 616 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 2: syndrome and you deserve more right because you are a 617 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 2: main components, so you deserve more the power when the 618 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 2: poth comes in, your slice does need to be a 619 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 2: bit bigger. But you're wrong if you think you've done 620 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 2: it all along, because nothing big is done alone. Nothing 621 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 2: there's nothing that's big that's done alone. And when you 622 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 2: have a career with you so millions of records, it's 623 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 2: important for you to understand the cars that go into 624 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 2: making that successful. It's much more than telling on the table. 625 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 2: And so even when you hit me on big facts, 626 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 2: and you hear me speak about media and building media up. 627 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 2: I know I have to be a little more clear, right, 628 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 2: And that's why I like podcasting with illphones more so 629 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 2: I can hear what I'm saying and how I'm sounding 630 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 2: when I say building media up. What I'm speaking about 631 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 2: is there is no value in someone speaking on your 632 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 2: behalf after they've put all their blood, sweating tears building 633 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 2: their platform up. Right, There is no value in that. 634 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 2: There is value in contributing to your narrative when you've 635 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 2: helped someone build their platform up. Once they've already built 636 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 2: it up, they make more money going at you. But 637 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 2: I'm saying, as a strategic man in business, understand what 638 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 2: your moves need to be and know how to position 639 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 2: yourself in a way that's effective. Nothing big is done alone. 640 00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 2: In fact, alone, you can do nothing big. Success is 641 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 2: a pot luck. You may be bringing the most important dish, 642 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 2: but if nobody else shows up with nothing, then this 643 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,320 Speaker 2: ain't a feast, This ain't enough to feed a family. 644 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 2: And what you're looking for is something big and so 645 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 2: and so nothing big is done alone. And so, with 646 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 2: the meek Mill scenario, ask myself, can you turn your 647 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:28,240 Speaker 2: homeboys into haters, like can you turn them into haters? 648 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 2: Because that's kind of a lot of people's position on things. 649 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 2: It's like, yo, he turned me to a hater. It's 650 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 2: rough to try to understand that. But I do understand 651 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 2: how opportunity keeps people in position and keeps people in line. 652 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 2: But success is like a pot luck right where everybody 653 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 2: does bring a dish. And what you're dealing with in 654 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 2: real time, especially now with social media and some of 655 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,240 Speaker 2: these outlets, you're dealing with people in the corner saying 656 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 2: and ain't gonna took three plays? They didn't bring nothing 657 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 2: but the drinks. Them folks done. Took three plates out 658 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 2: the right. You know how in the cookouts they be 659 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 2: in the corners. Man, did you see Charon? Charon didn't 660 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 2: bring them but some plates? 661 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: Man? Yeah, Sharan and went to the car put sixth 662 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: plates in the car. I think she took the rest 663 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: of that ham. You know. 664 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,919 Speaker 2: This is how it is in the South when these 665 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 2: things are happening. And so I get back to my 666 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 2: original question, can you turn your homeboys into a hater? 667 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,320 Speaker 2: So that question then presents you with a new question, 668 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 2: how do you do that? Well, my position on that 669 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:37,320 Speaker 2: is money brings attention. The attention that comes with money. 670 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 2: Some people have good intentions, some people have bad intention Right, 671 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 2: it brings attention. You better take notice to intention. So 672 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 2: the attention that it brings, it brings a lot of 673 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 2: people around you. What will happen is you'll have your 674 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 2: homeboard next to you and you don't leave them nothing 675 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,839 Speaker 2: else to do but hate on you. See, you got 676 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 2: a bunch of people around you for no reason. That's 677 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 2: why I don't be having a whole bunch of niggas 678 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 2: around me. What else they gonna do but hate on me. 679 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 2: They don't know how to set the camera up, They 680 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,800 Speaker 2: don't know how to do nothing with the computer. 681 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,240 Speaker 1: They editing photos. 682 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 2: They don't know how to run social media hash task 683 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 2: book guests deal with emails, deal with meetings. 684 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 1: They don't know. 685 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 2: What will happen is some of these spots you go in, 686 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 2: say I go in ESPN. The homeboy gotta stay out. 687 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 2: So it may look like he living the life do y'all, 688 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,320 Speaker 2: But he close enough to me to see the love. 689 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:29,320 Speaker 1: I'm truly getting. 690 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 2: Now it is important that I understand that he is 691 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,800 Speaker 2: close to me. Anything that's close to you, you gotta 692 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 2: take care of it. It's a symbolism of your whole operation. 693 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 2: So what else position I put you in? What else 694 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 2: I leave you to do? But hate on me? You 695 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 2: don't gotta protect me. I protect myself. You don't take 696 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,320 Speaker 2: the pictures, you don't edit, you don't take the emails, 697 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 2: you don't. So when you're around me, what else I'm 698 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 2: leaving you to do? Every man around me should have 699 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 2: a job or duty, something that they doing to contribute 700 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 2: to this own overall thing. If not, I'm leaving room 701 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 2: for you to keep paying attention to mind. I want 702 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 2: all of us to bring something to the potluck, not 703 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,240 Speaker 2: just keep taking something from. 704 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,320 Speaker 1: The pot luck. You dig what I'm saying. 705 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 2: And again I don't know meek scenario and what he 706 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 2: did or didn't do. I'm telling you that this is 707 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 2: my framework of this whole shit. You gotta be careful 708 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 2: on both sides not to catch their main character syndrome, 709 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 2: and also not to hand around you for no reason. 710 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 2: The people you do have around you really empowering him, 711 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:39,360 Speaker 2: and try to put them in position because it will 712 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 2: help you in the long run. I go back to 713 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 2: that trophy analogy. It's like, Yo, what is a boxer 714 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 2: without his trainers, and so you look at Walley's response 715 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 2: to Meek. One thing about Wilay, his responses and his 716 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,719 Speaker 2: interactions don't really fuel the blogs in the same way, right, 717 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 2: I don't think, I think because he ain't really he 718 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 2: kind of give that cold energy a little bit, not 719 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:09,840 Speaker 2: that he'll apologize, but it's like he's really bringing conscious 720 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 2: he's been told that you can't do certain things or 721 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 2: you can't say certain things like it hurts you, you 722 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,799 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. I feel as though someone that's 723 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 2: putting him in a position to be notified that, Yo, 724 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,839 Speaker 2: these things don't work in your favor. When you do 725 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 2: these things. You took a certain way, you looked at 726 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 2: a certain way. Let's kind of ride that wave and 727 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 2: continue to make the money and let people think whatever 728 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 2: they want to think about you. You know, I was 729 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 2: looking at Casannett and that's what I know. I know 730 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,719 Speaker 2: that people are pulled into the corner office or these 731 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 2: brand meetings or the executive means what have been told that, Yo, 732 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,799 Speaker 2: there's certain things that we can't stand by. When I 733 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,319 Speaker 2: see Casinett and Aidan Ross running to each other in Jamaica, 734 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 2: and Casannett has to tell his team do not put 735 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 2: Aiden Ross on camera. And what that tells me is 736 00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,120 Speaker 2: Casanette has been directed that, Yo, you can't work with 737 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 2: Aiden Ross now as Twitch being a part of Cosinnet, 738 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 2: I'm not sure how comfortable I am with that, because 739 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,439 Speaker 2: think about this, If you guys are not paying a 740 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 2: substantial amount of money, what kind of money is he 741 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 2: missing with Aiden Ross? 742 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 3: Now? 743 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 2: Granted, Aiden Ross has done some dumb things. He has 744 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 2: rolled out some ridiculous rhetoric on his stream and done 745 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 2: some things that I think is against all against all 746 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 2: community guidelines, right. I think he showed some stuff on 747 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,360 Speaker 2: there that you just can't do. He did some things 748 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 2: that you just can't do, and so maintaining ort on 749 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 2: your platform, I'm not interested in altering your ability to 750 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 2: do that. I'm more interested in the meetings that may 751 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,319 Speaker 2: be taking place with Casinett that's directing him that, Yo, 752 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 2: you cannot have this guy on our platform. 753 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,439 Speaker 1: Now, where did Aiden Ross go wrong? 754 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 2: Not only did he do some dumb things on Twitch, 755 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,400 Speaker 2: he also winning birth there competitive that's actually taking up 756 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,359 Speaker 2: a little bit of the market share. And so they're 757 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 2: not only looking at a streamer over there with Aiden 758 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 2: Ross that is actually our competitor. In real time, they're 759 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 2: running alongside us, and so with our viewer. I think 760 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 2: that's an easy viewer to convert the Twitch to kick viewer. 761 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:18,400 Speaker 2: I think it's comparable to the Apple Music to Spotify listener. 762 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 2: Right once you get them addicted to DSPs, now it's 763 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,399 Speaker 2: about just getting them on yours instead of the other one. 764 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 2: I think whatever meeting is being had with Casinett is 765 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 2: probably under the guys of maintaining order. Now for me, 766 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 2: that gets interesting because that's a wide net that you 767 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,439 Speaker 2: can cast. I mean this time, it may make sense 768 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,800 Speaker 2: with Aiden Ross you say, Yo, he's did some things. 769 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 2: That's just we can't stand by. Not only that he's 770 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 2: at the head of one of our rival companies and 771 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 2: so we would like for him not to be on stream, 772 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 2: but what else is it being told this quote unquote 773 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,879 Speaker 2: maintaining order? And how far can they really go with that? 774 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 2: I think that's an interest the conversation to get into 775 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,439 Speaker 2: with Casanett, and it was on his mind in real 776 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 2: time ran in the a A do not let him 777 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:11,400 Speaker 2: on the stream? Is there any brand opportunities outside of 778 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:15,759 Speaker 2: Twitch with Aiden? Is Twitch really involved with Casanet in 779 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 2: a way? Where he's really making that amount of money 780 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,279 Speaker 2: that will affect his life if he just says yo, 781 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 2: I don't Yo. He's like a regular person out in 782 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:31,280 Speaker 2: the street. Now Aiden has asked Casanet to say something 783 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 2: about getting it back on Twitch. I'm not sure I'm 784 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,359 Speaker 2: interested in Casinet doing that. I mean, we know these 785 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:40,759 Speaker 2: relationships are very interesting relationships as it pertains to these 786 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,719 Speaker 2: industry relationships, So I mean by each other cars and 787 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 2: things like that, But I don't think it's really like 788 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 2: it looks right. So Casanett is protecting his brand and 789 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,759 Speaker 2: his business like Yo, it's clear they. 790 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:53,360 Speaker 1: Don't want you on. 791 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 2: Why am I gonna throw my weight around just to 792 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 2: get you on to a company that's you're riveling? That's 793 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 2: like yo, that's that's a bad being in position. And 794 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 2: why would you put me in that position as my friend, 795 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,719 Speaker 2: like as Aidan Ross, why would you ask Casinet to 796 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 2: go to Twitch and try to demand that they bring 797 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,200 Speaker 2: you back on knowing you literally started a rival company. 798 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,759 Speaker 2: You got to stay on your own. Now, I do 799 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,880 Speaker 2: believe that Cosinet can fight for yo. Aiden should be 800 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 2: able to get on my stream like you dig like 801 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 2: I would like some clarification on what the stance is 802 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,719 Speaker 2: about that if I'm consonant, like, and how loose is that? 803 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 1: How many people can y'all do that for? And what 804 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:33,400 Speaker 1: is that? 805 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,279 Speaker 2: Why is that right? I think that's an interesting conversation. 806 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,239 Speaker 2: But you got to get into the weeds of this. 807 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:45,759 Speaker 2: Is Cosinet being controlled by Twitch in Amazon? Or is 808 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,560 Speaker 2: Aiden just had positioned himself in a way where your 809 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,799 Speaker 2: rival company now and it's just business, But what if 810 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,960 Speaker 2: Kyle want to go do a brand deal with him? Like, 811 00:42:56,080 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 2: let's just say they that state got two million dollars 812 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,359 Speaker 2: a month for them dudes to create content? Is there 813 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,520 Speaker 2: any conflict in that? Like, I just think this is 814 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 2: a great conversation. We'll look into that on our next one. 815 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 2: I really love y'all. 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