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Speaker 1: Take a seat. Take a seat. We've got so many
Speaker 1: things to talk about. The Pope is confessing his sins,
Speaker 1: Russia is now beefing with people in space, and our
Speaker 1: guest is the m IN nominated Star of Succession. Brian
Speaker 1: Cox is joining us on the show. Everybody so stars
Speaker 1: through this people, Let's go straight into today's headlines. All right.
Speaker 1: Before we get into the big stories, let's catch up
Speaker 1: on a few other things that are going on. First
Speaker 1: of all, Jeopardy has finally chosen its permanent hosts. And
Speaker 1: no it's not Steve Harvey's too busy doing every other
Speaker 1: game show. It's actually gonna be Myam Bielik and Ken Jennings. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's really really great for them. Congratulations to my man
Speaker 1: can't or is your grandfather calls them not Alex Trevac
Speaker 1: and lady not Alex Treback. In Scott's News, the NFL
Speaker 1: has announced that they're launching their own streaming service, which
Speaker 1: is fantastic because I don't know about you guys, but
Speaker 1: we just don't have enough of them right now, you know.
Speaker 1: And this app is apparently going to have all of
Speaker 1: the preseason games, which is kind of like paying to
Speaker 1: watch the story part in pawn, But I guess that's
Speaker 1: what some people like, so this is gonna be good.
Speaker 1: In Politics News, Mike Pence says he's being treated differently
Speaker 1: now that he's no longer vice president and that he
Speaker 1: had to recently wait twenty five minutes for a table
Speaker 1: at olive Garden. Yeah, which sucks, yes, but on the upside,
Speaker 1: Trump supporters aren't trying to kill him anymore, so I
Speaker 1: mean pros and cons, pros and cons. I won't say
Speaker 1: it is a little while to me that Mike Pence
Speaker 1: even goes to olive Garden, Like, I think it's dangerous
Speaker 1: to eat an olive garden when you look so much
Speaker 1: like a breadstick. There I'm sorry, sorry, sorry, And of course,
Speaker 1: of course I'm sure you've all heard the sad news.
Speaker 1: After nearly forty years, Klondike is discontinuing the chuckle Tackle. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not me, it's not me, it's them. I know,
Speaker 1: it's outrageous. The chuckle tackle is the perfect American fusion
Speaker 1: of cultures. It's it's Mexican and sugar. And how are
Speaker 1: you gonna get rid of the chunk o tago before
Speaker 1: getting rid of the popsicle? Huh? Nobody likes those. This
Speaker 1: is dildos that give you brain freeze. Come on, But anyway,
Speaker 1: let's move on to some of the bigger news stories
Speaker 1: of the day, and we're gonna start off with the
Speaker 1: Catholic Church, the world's number one manufacturer of atheists. The
Speaker 1: Catholic Church has made many, many positive contributions to society
Speaker 1: in the fields of art and science and philosophy. And
Speaker 1: if it wasn't for them, we wouldn't have come up
Speaker 1: with the smoke machines in the club, you know. But
Speaker 1: the Church has also done some bad things over the
Speaker 1: last say two thousand years, which is why, in a
Speaker 1: really positive development, Pope Francis is seeking absolution for the
Speaker 1: church's sins. On his first full day in Canada, Pope
Speaker 1: Francis delivered a historic apology for the quote evil committed
Speaker 1: by so many distance against Indigenous people. At the sight
Speaker 1: of a former residential school in the Canadian city of
Speaker 1: Massa Cheese, Pope Francis was greeted with sacred drumming and
Speaker 1: dance rituals the Church once sought to erase. For around
Speaker 1: a century, more than one hundred fifty thousand Native children
Speaker 1: were taken from their families to attend government funded residential schools,
Speaker 1: most of them run by the Catholic Church. They faced
Speaker 1: rampant neglect, physical and sexual abuse while being forced to assimilate.
Speaker 1: It is here the Pope issued a historic apology. I
Speaker 1: am here because the first step of my penitential pilgrimage
Speaker 1: among you is that of again asking forgiveness. You know what,
Speaker 1: to say, what you want. I love this Pope, I
Speaker 1: really do. Yeah, Because ever since he's come into office
Speaker 1: or into power, or ever since he's gotten the gig,
Speaker 1: what do they even say over whatever it is, He's
Speaker 1: done a really good job of trying to write the
Speaker 1: Catholic Church's wrongs. You know, he's reached out to other faiths.
Speaker 1: He said gay people can get into heaven, and don't
Speaker 1: forget he added a popping lock to the sign of
Speaker 1: the cross. You know, he's just like, oh, you know,
Speaker 1: nose pools. No, no, no, no. On top of that,
Speaker 1: on top of that, he's apologizing to Indigenous people in
Speaker 1: Canada for the role the Catholic Church played in trying
Speaker 1: to erase their culture. I'm glad he's doing that. It
Speaker 1: also must have been a shock to Canadians, you know,
Speaker 1: someone coming and apologizing to them. Mhould be like I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: It's like no, I'm sorry. Oh sorry. And you know,
Speaker 1: beyond the pope, yeah, the Pope is great in all
Speaker 1: of this, but you know who the heroes of the
Speaker 1: story are the indigenous people. Yeah, for not just speaking
Speaker 1: to the pope, but for forgiving him, even letting him
Speaker 1: wear their traditional head dress. That was amazing. It was gracious,
Speaker 1: you know, unless they were just setting him up for
Speaker 1: a trap. You know, it's like we let bygones, bid bygones,
Speaker 1: please accept this headdress, snap photo, and you're canceled mother
Speaker 1: to cultural appropriation. They didn't do that, but it would
Speaker 1: have been funny. Now apparently In addition to the apology,
Speaker 1: the church has also agreed to pay a settlement for
Speaker 1: what they did, which I think is fantastic, especially on
Speaker 1: the tribe for actually insisting on it. You know, because
Speaker 1: so many people's lives have been destroyed and a generation
Speaker 1: was thrust into poverty. So sorry is nice, but money
Speaker 1: goes a long way. Yeah. In fact, you know what
Speaker 1: they should put I'm sorry in the caption of the
Speaker 1: venmore payments. That's what they should do. And not just
Speaker 1: the church, not just the church. Yeah, I think there
Speaker 1: should be for everyone. All those governments around the world,
Speaker 1: you know, stolen land from people, like in Africa. We've
Speaker 1: seen this all the time, right, England is always like,
Speaker 1: we're so sorry, we pillaged and plundered your country of
Speaker 1: all your natural resources. And Africans are like, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: can we have our diamonds back? And it's like, ah,
Speaker 1: but they're already in the crown. Yeah, but we can't
Speaker 1: take it out. We can't a crown without chills. That's
Speaker 1: just the hat. Oh yeah, so I'm glad do something
Speaker 1: about it. Oh and speaking of people who are gonna
Speaker 1: need to apologize for a lot in the future, Vladimir
Speaker 1: Putin back in the news. I guess he's never left
Speaker 1: ever since he decided to inherit Eastern Ukraine, Russia and
Speaker 1: the rest of Western you know, the rest of the West,
Speaker 1: really have been going through the twenty one centuries most
Speaker 1: savage breakup a right, There's been threats, h there's been sanctions,
Speaker 1: and just today Russia rarely escalates attentions by making big
Speaker 1: cuts to the amount of gas that it will send
Speaker 1: through its pipelines to Europe. Yeah. Now they're saying that
Speaker 1: this is because of mechanical issues. Yeah, but I'm sure
Speaker 1: this is mechanical issues, the same way someone breaks up
Speaker 1: with you because you deserve better. Just be honest and
Speaker 1: say you can't see a future with someone who wears
Speaker 1: Crux two nice restaurants, Debbie just the beaven wears them
Speaker 1: now anyway. On top of all of that, Russia has
Speaker 1: decided to extend this beef into space. Let's just in
Speaker 1: the CNN, Russia says this morning that it is preparing
Speaker 1: to pull out of the International Space Station. That's a
Speaker 1: big deal. Space agency official told Vladimir Putin it will
Speaker 1: leave the i S S quote after this withdrawal would
Speaker 1: be a major blow to the I s S, which
Speaker 1: has served as a model for international cooperation for decades,
Speaker 1: says it will start building its own orbiting outpost instead. Wow,
Speaker 1: Russia is officially pulling out of the International Space Station,
Speaker 1: which nobody asked them to do. We said pull out
Speaker 1: of Ukraine, not the space station. There's a Google Translate issue.
Speaker 1: What's going on here? And you might not realize this,
Speaker 1: but this is actually bad news because Russia helps to
Speaker 1: operate the space station, which I didn't know about, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like, I don't know about you.
Speaker 1: But am I the only one who's shocked by how
Speaker 1: many things are connected to Russia in the world? All right,
Speaker 1: like the world's energy supply, Africa's food supply, space travel,
Speaker 1: minerals for our electronics. Soon we're gonna find out that
Speaker 1: Russia provides the sound for sneezes and without them, we
Speaker 1: can't complete the action. Not true for you. Come, by
Speaker 1: the way, I don't know why they call it an
Speaker 1: international space station. It doesn't seem very internationals basically, just
Speaker 1: Russians and Americans up there, like two other countries in
Speaker 1: the world's on International Space station. Back, how come they
Speaker 1: know African countries up there? Huh. Why because we stopped
Speaker 1: playing soccer and accidentally kicked the ball through the window
Speaker 1: and everyone will get sucked into space. I mean that's
Speaker 1: a fair point, but still why So Yeah, the Russians
Speaker 1: are leaving the space station and although they think this
Speaker 1: is pretty cool, good luck to them making a dramatic
Speaker 1: exit when there's zero gravity. Number unless you to feel
Speaker 1: the full force of my good rush ship. He's right,
Speaker 1: you can net okay, kill somebody, push me the world door,
Speaker 1: push me, just just push me into word, Push me
Speaker 1: the door and I can. I want to make the
Speaker 1: mothing exit. This okay, this is more exit that was
Speaker 1: being flour Just I'm just looking at all like idiot
Speaker 1: right now. Just okay, imagine you were crying and I'm gone, bitch,
Speaker 1: imagine imagine that be imagine that be. All right, that's
Speaker 1: for the headlines. But before we go, let's check it
Speaker 1: on the traffic without very own roy would junior everybody, Yeah,
Speaker 1: what's going on? Or what is that? Man? To see
Speaker 1: how you're feeling for that? Yeah, I feel good, man,
Speaker 1: I feel good. Man. It's how does all outside? I
Speaker 1: don't mean it's safe, you feel safe? Yeah, I'm just
Speaker 1: safel one especially with the traffic. Stuff is much safer
Speaker 1: when it's hot, like, because that's why people like you know,
Speaker 1: that's that's why I like by shootings got him in
Speaker 1: it because it was too hot to get out the car.
Speaker 1: Let's road rage. It's let's road. When it's hot, it's
Speaker 1: less road rage. So nobody want to get out the
Speaker 1: car to fight. You ever get out the car to whoop?
Speaker 1: Somebody asked me block ship and you get back in
Speaker 1: the car. Some stuff. You just gotta less slide. Man's
Speaker 1: gotta let us slide no real quick, real quick. Man.
Speaker 1: Russia did what they were supposed to do. What Russia
Speaker 1: did exactly. What if somebody at your career and they're
Speaker 1: talking ship, just leave, Just leave. If somebody's talking crazy
Speaker 1: to you, you ain't gotta be around them, man, Just
Speaker 1: get gone. You ain't gotta put up when nobody talking
Speaker 1: talking wild? Do you like that? And plus American stupid
Speaker 1: for doing that. We ain't got no spacehal wait, we
Speaker 1: sold our space shuttle, so we ain't got no ride home.
Speaker 1: Russia was our ride home. How you gonna talk ship
Speaker 1: to your ride home? And now they're gone, it's just
Speaker 1: gonna be a bunch of Americans sitting on the front
Speaker 1: porch or that space station, just waiting on Jeff Bezos
Speaker 1: to come pick him up in that dick rocket something.
Speaker 1: You know, you don't have to dick rocket. Bezol's head,
Speaker 1: the dick rocket. That's what I don't think he closed
Speaker 1: it a dick rocket. But I know what you mean.
Speaker 1: But like I said, dick rocket, you understood exactly what exactly.
Speaker 1: If you said Jack Bezos is rocket, I also would
Speaker 1: have gotten it. You didn't have to include any anyway,
Speaker 1: what's going on in the traffic. Roy Chaco Taco was trash.
Speaker 1: Let's just be real about that. As a trash it
Speaker 1: was a trash ash treat man, and it just it
Speaker 1: didn't put like everybody loves to be sad whenever they
Speaker 1: get rid of one of these treats. Chocooco. For me,
Speaker 1: if everybody who loved Chaco Taco balled Chacolate Taco as
Speaker 1: much as they talk about how much they love Chaco Taco,
Speaker 1: they still have a damn Chaco Taco. But you didn't
Speaker 1: do that when they got short days and gelato's not
Speaker 1: your chocolate Taco was damn gone, man. It was. I
Speaker 1: That don't mean it was delicious. It was just I
Speaker 1: It wasn't a classic. It wasn't a legendary ice cream tree.
Speaker 1: Let's be real about Chocko taco. It wasn't legendary. It
Speaker 1: was like it wasn't. It wasn't no necessarily crunch ball.
Speaker 1: It wasn't no flints, don't push up. It wasn't no
Speaker 1: ice cream sandwich. The truth of a matter, Trevor, is
Speaker 1: that most of the foods we love, especially ice cream,
Speaker 1: we just attached to people that we had and built
Speaker 1: memories with while consuming that treet. You don't miss the
Speaker 1: choco taco. You miss your father and he's gone. That's
Speaker 1: what it is. I miss I miss I miss my
Speaker 1: m You don't have no, you don't. I don't have to.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do the traffic. I feel like this went
Speaker 1: like there's a lot of pain right now. You don't
Speaker 1: have to do the traffic. Traffic. This is weird because
Speaker 1: you're know you're crying and doing the traffic's gonna be weird.
Speaker 1: It's now we're all thinking about your dad and are
Speaker 1: you sure you want to do this? Roy? Okay, you
Speaker 1: can as long as you're good. Okay, Oh, didn't your
Speaker 1: dad drive a truck like that. No, right, right would Junior? Everybody,
Speaker 1: all right, don't go away, because when we come back,
Speaker 1: we're gonna learn how some blind people use dating apps.
Speaker 1: And Bryan Cox is joining us on the show. Don't
Speaker 1: go Away. Welcome back to the Daily Show. Today marks
Speaker 1: the thirty second anniversary of the Americans with Disabilities Act,
Speaker 1: and so it's extra appropriate that my guest is popular
Speaker 1: YouTuber TikToker and instagrammer Molly Burke. She's a young woman
Speaker 1: who loves fashion, makeup and downhill skiing. Oh and she
Speaker 1: also happens to be blind. Please welcome Molly Burke. Yea
Speaker 1: than Molly Burke. Welcome to The Daily Show. Thank you
Speaker 1: so much for having me. This is such a fun
Speaker 1: moment for me because I've seen so many of your videos.
Speaker 1: You know you you you aren't just funny, you are
Speaker 1: just engaging, but you dispel so many of the myths
Speaker 1: around how we see blind people, how we even think
Speaker 1: about people with disabilities. And I think on it on
Speaker 1: a daylight today especially, it's really cool to have you
Speaker 1: here because I'd love to know just like the beginnings
Speaker 1: of it all you have you have a disability, and
Speaker 1: you know you go into the world, not just living
Speaker 1: your life, but thinking, how do I basically educate idiots?
Speaker 1: Which is which is what I feel like you do?
Speaker 1: I think actually exactly the um. You know. I was
Speaker 1: diagnosed with a rare eye disease called red nightis pigmentosa
Speaker 1: when I was four years old, and so at that time,
Speaker 1: the doctor has told my parents one day she's going
Speaker 1: to go blind, but we don't know when it will be,
Speaker 1: so it's kind of preparing my whole childhood um. And
Speaker 1: I was slowly losing my vision, and then at fourteen,
Speaker 1: I very quickly lost the majority, leaving me now only
Speaker 1: with light and shadow. And at the time I lost
Speaker 1: all of my friends. I was very badly bullied, and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, society started treating me very different
Speaker 1: than how I was treated as an able bodied person,
Speaker 1: and I was really angry for a long time time.
Speaker 1: But in my own journey to recovery, I realized I
Speaker 1: can either be a victim and sit here and be
Speaker 1: angry that society does not understand, or I can actively
Speaker 1: be a part of educating society and taking that ignorance
Speaker 1: and and changing it um and by doing that, hopefully
Speaker 1: changing the discrimination that disabled people face. That's amazing, alas
Speaker 1: amazing than you when you when you talk about discrimination.
Speaker 1: I hope people understand the levels that it comes on,
Speaker 1: because it's it's it's truly wild to see. For instance,
Speaker 1: there are people out there who still will say to you, Oh,
Speaker 1: you're faking it. Oh you're not blind. Oh how come
Speaker 1: how come your eyes are blue? This is this is
Speaker 1: not a thing. And I was shocked to see how
Speaker 1: many stereotypes we have internalized about you know, blind people
Speaker 1: just you know alone, like told me through that how
Speaker 1: many people think you're just not blind? Oh? I mean
Speaker 1: there's whole Reddit threads devoted to dispelling that I'm blind.
Speaker 1: Somebody said I know too much about blindness to have
Speaker 1: never been blind, but that I must have gotten better,
Speaker 1: like it's the flu or something. Um, it's very much
Speaker 1: not like that. I promise, I don't like hold the
Speaker 1: secret care for blindness. Um. The reality is most people
Speaker 1: will never meet a blind person in their lifetime, and
Speaker 1: so the only way we access things like blindness or
Speaker 1: disability in general is often through the media, and historically
Speaker 1: we've had very little representation, and when we do, it's
Speaker 1: a lot of misrepresentation because it's written, directed, and played
Speaker 1: by able bodied people who are changing the narrative. And
Speaker 1: that's why I tried to take social media and use
Speaker 1: it as a way to take back the narrative for
Speaker 1: at least myself. I can't I can't be all blind people,
Speaker 1: but I can share my story as Molly, my experience.
Speaker 1: You know what I love about that is the fact
Speaker 1: that is exactly what you said is you've never tried
Speaker 1: to claim it as your own. You say, Hey, I
Speaker 1: am a blind person and these are some of the
Speaker 1: things that the blind community faces, but this is me.
Speaker 1: And what I like about that is it reminds us
Speaker 1: to not see people with disabilities as a monolith. You know.
Speaker 1: It's so for instance, I learned from you. I didn't
Speaker 1: know that you know, you don't have to wear dark losses.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that you can look in the direction
Speaker 1: that you're speaking. Because again to your point, I've watched
Speaker 1: movies my whole life. I go like, oh, I know
Speaker 1: blind people, and it's like, no, I don't. I just
Speaker 1: watched movies. That's all I basically did. Right, What are
Speaker 1: some of the day to day obstacles that you may
Speaker 1: face as a blind person that I think the rest
Speaker 1: of us should will be aware of. I mean, today
Speaker 1: I'm using a cane, but generally I'm a guide dog
Speaker 1: user and I can tell you that just trying to
Speaker 1: leave my house with my guide dog is a challenge.
Speaker 1: I've been a guide dog user for fifteen years, and
Speaker 1: sadly the issues are only getting worse because of frankly
Speaker 1: selfish people who decided to buy fake service dog bests
Speaker 1: and certificates on Amazon and like take their pets places
Speaker 1: and give real service dog uses a bad name. And
Speaker 1: then again because I don't look blind, this stereotype that
Speaker 1: society has been given a blindness. When I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm blind and this is my guy dog, They're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: uh huh, I'm sure. And so that's a big issue.
Speaker 1: So so what you you won't be allowed in to,
Speaker 1: Like what is like restaurants or where where do you
Speaker 1: find you'll get the most pushback? Ubers and lifts is
Speaker 1: absolutely my nightmare, which is so frustrating because obviously I
Speaker 1: can't drive, so uber a list is like what I
Speaker 1: take the most often. I like, I am giving you
Speaker 1: so much of my hard earned coin and you are
Speaker 1: slapping me in the face by constantly denying me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's sad, it's infurially, it's ridiculous. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's why you you laugh about these things online. But
Speaker 1: we we take so many of these things for granted,
Speaker 1: I feel, because we don't understand the obstacles that are
Speaker 1: put in place of anybody with with with the disability.
Speaker 1: What what I've found interesting about your journey though, is
Speaker 1: you also you also find ways to It's not it's
Speaker 1: not really mock the world, but you you exist in
Speaker 1: it despite the limitations. For instance, I was shocked to
Speaker 1: hear that you will use dating apps like Tinder. How
Speaker 1: else am I supposed to find a man? But I
Speaker 1: really need to understand about like so, like how how
Speaker 1: do you use it? So I use a screen reader
Speaker 1: called voiceover, and so it reads the bios to me.
Speaker 1: Obviously you cannot tell me what the photos look like.
Speaker 1: So that's where good friends and family come in and
Speaker 1: they give me the like, okay, you don't want to
Speaker 1: go on a date? I got it, got it, got it.
Speaker 1: I've even described like so I would I would love
Speaker 1: to know like when when you meet somebody again, this
Speaker 1: is me just basing it on, you know, the few
Speaker 1: experiences I've had and then and then movies is like
Speaker 1: do you even care about what a person looks like?
Speaker 1: You know, because you'd hear those stories for instance, you
Speaker 1: know for movies that would be like, oh ray Charles
Speaker 1: would touch people's faces, like I want to know what
Speaker 1: you feel like in terms of your face? Do you
Speaker 1: care or is it? Is it completely different for you?
Speaker 1: Most plain people don't feel faces. That is like a
Speaker 1: really big movie stereotype. The majority of us do not.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine if I was like, hey, Trevor, like
Speaker 1: it's like very weird, really uncomfortable, and so that's not
Speaker 1: wouldn't do it if I was you, because I would
Speaker 1: get away with it. No, I'm just saying as a comedian,
Speaker 1: I would just do that. I didn't once as a joke,
Speaker 1: like one of my friends was like, hey, I told
Speaker 1: my girlfriend you feel faces? And I was like it,
Speaker 1: and so she like walks and I was like Vanessa
Speaker 1: and like like I like, we were all so serious
Speaker 1: for the whole and she's just standing there like bless
Speaker 1: her soul, just like because he told her, like, go
Speaker 1: with it, she'll be upset if you don't. You don't
Speaker 1: let it touch your face. But you see, this is
Speaker 1: what I mean. These are misconceptions that we have. These
Speaker 1: are different ideas. If people want to learn, if people
Speaker 1: want to educate themselves. There's so many people out there
Speaker 1: who who aren't obviously trying to be against anybody who's disabled,
Speaker 1: but they but they really want to learn. What would
Speaker 1: you recommend for them? You know, what are good resources?
Speaker 1: Where can they go? How do they learn? I mean
Speaker 1: social media is like the greatest place to turn to
Speaker 1: because there are so many disabled people on TikTok, on YouTube,
Speaker 1: on Instagram, on Facebook, making content, sharing our life experiences,
Speaker 1: sharing our day to day how we do things to
Speaker 1: show that like we can still do what you do,
Speaker 1: just in a different way. I love that. Thank you
Speaker 1: so much for joining me on the show. Thank you.
Speaker 1: It's showing me wonderful. I'm searching my hand out to
Speaker 1: you or don't move, don't move. I'm I'm switching my
Speaker 1: hands out to say thank Here we go, thank you
Speaker 1: so much, Thank thank you so much. Be sure to
Speaker 1: follow money Brook a little fulkure media platforms that you
Speaker 1: when we come back, grind talk to stop professionals Jurney
Speaker 1: on the show Don't go right, Money don't go. Don't
Speaker 1: just stay there, stay they say this, stay that, don't
Speaker 1: go yet. I'm gonna have the auto. Welcome back to
Speaker 1: the Daily char My next guest is award winning actor
Speaker 1: Brian Cox, who plays the patriarch and media titan Logan
Speaker 1: Roy in HBO's hit drama Succession. Please welcome Brian Cox.
Speaker 1: Ronald work of Mr Brian Cox. Wow, Wow, this is
Speaker 1: this is these are These are tough interviews for me
Speaker 1: because I I you know, whenever you speak to somebody
Speaker 1: who you've admired for so long, you have to try
Speaker 1: and gather all your thoughts. I have to breathe a
Speaker 1: little bit. You you're you're easily one of my favorite
Speaker 1: actors in all of like my favorite movies. You like
Speaker 1: the best bad guy, and in real life you're such
Speaker 1: a good guy, which makes me go even the better
Speaker 1: acting you say, I'm rambling that. I'm just welcome to
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. Good to have you, Welcome to
Speaker 1: the show. Very nice to be. No. I I you know,
Speaker 1: I was just watching that clip and it was very
Speaker 1: depressing because that's not me, and I keep That's why
Speaker 1: I never watched the show. No, I never watch it
Speaker 1: because I can't bear this. I can't bear that guy. Well,
Speaker 1: actually that's not true. I quite like him, but but
Speaker 1: there's an aspect of him that I go, why, you know,
Speaker 1: why can't you just be a little nicer? You know.
Speaker 1: I think that's why the show is watched the way.
Speaker 1: I remember when Succession started, the thing that everybody says
Speaker 1: you All my friends said was, have you watched Succession?
Speaker 1: I said, no, I haven't. They said you'd watched. I said, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch it, and then they they said, you're
Speaker 1: gonna hate everybody, but you won't be able to stop watching.
Speaker 1: And then when you watch the show, you start to
Speaker 1: realize why. Like, your character is one of the most
Speaker 1: gripping character he's an asshole. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: we want you to win sometimes, but you shouldn't want
Speaker 1: to win, and you're the complete opposite of this character.
Speaker 1: And I think that's why it works. You bring up
Speaker 1: something like an empathy maybe in the character. I mean,
Speaker 1: I have a lot of sympathy with him. I mean
Speaker 1: we both he and I are disappointed in the human experiment.
Speaker 1: We you know, we think that humans have really screwed
Speaker 1: the whole thing up, and it's getting worse on a
Speaker 1: daily basis. It is you comployed as much as you like.
Speaker 1: It is getting bad, but it is. And and we've
Speaker 1: never been in such a bad time as we are
Speaker 1: at the moment, what with the Ukraine and the fact
Speaker 1: that we've had this ridiculous pink Pinocchio that's been the
Speaker 1: president here, and then we brought this clown from Eaton
Speaker 1: who's now finally trying to I don't know what he's doing,
Speaker 1: that Lyne Pratt from London. And it's just really bad.
Speaker 1: So both Logan and I we have a chat occasionally,
Speaker 1: and we've decided that the human experiment is in a
Speaker 1: pretty bad place. But you have different ways of of
Speaker 1: of responding to it, you know where you know, you've
Speaker 1: always been somebody who was fighting for the working class.
Speaker 1: You you're the complete opposite of your character people totally.
Speaker 1: I'm an optimist. I mean that's the other thing. I mean,
Speaker 1: Logan isn't. He's investimers and I do believe that human
Speaker 1: beings can get better, but they've got to do a
Speaker 1: lot of work. You've got to work for you were
Speaker 1: you always an optimist even as a child, because I
Speaker 1: have read about your childhood and you really lived a
Speaker 1: rough childhood. You really did well. You know it was rough,
Speaker 1: but a lot of the time I didn't notice because
Speaker 1: I was just getting on with it. You just have
Speaker 1: to get on with it, you know. You you dealt
Speaker 1: a hand of cards and you go, oh, this is
Speaker 1: the hand I've got, I see, and what am I
Speaker 1: gonna do with this hand? And you do it as
Speaker 1: best you can and there's no good moaning about it.
Speaker 1: And you know, the things that happened to me, you know,
Speaker 1: we're pretty not nice. But at the same time, it's
Speaker 1: also made me who I am, so in a way,
Speaker 1: you have to be grateful for that, which is ungrateful, Yes, exactly.
Speaker 1: And and I feel blessed, you know. I I feel
Speaker 1: blessed really with my career and with the work I've
Speaker 1: been I've been able to do over the years. So
Speaker 1: I don't have any regrets at all. I mean, my
Speaker 1: parents were wonderful people. They died far too early in
Speaker 1: my life, but I remember them very fondly and I
Speaker 1: still carry them with me, and I believe that. I
Speaker 1: believe that's the most important thing in life, is to
Speaker 1: honor your mother and your father, because they're the only
Speaker 1: proof you've got. There's nothing else. It's all made up
Speaker 1: all around you. But the reality is there was mum,
Speaker 1: there was dad, They did the business and you came out.
Speaker 1: That's beautiful. I love that. It's it's interesting how you know,
Speaker 1: I've noticed this about you, and there are a few
Speaker 1: other actors, you know, out of the UK where you
Speaker 1: you approach what you do very much like a working way,
Speaker 1: you know. It's it's really interesting. You know, for many
Speaker 1: American actors oftentimes it can be like the celebrity and
Speaker 1: this and that. But with you, you have like a
Speaker 1: very much like I go to work, I do the thing,
Speaker 1: and then I go home and you know, and it's
Speaker 1: it's also to do with our training. You know, we
Speaker 1: have really great training back home, and it's it's classical training,
Speaker 1: so and it goes a long way back right to
Speaker 1: Shakespeare and beyond, you know, so in a way that
Speaker 1: training helps you. It helps you enormously in dealing with
Speaker 1: the realities of life, because it is work is just
Speaker 1: doing it and doing it and doing it and doing
Speaker 1: it and doing it, you know, and you don't think.
Speaker 1: I mean sometimes a lot of American actors they kind
Speaker 1: of treat it like a religious experience. You know, it's
Speaker 1: so hard what I'm doing. You know, I'm gonna have
Speaker 1: to I'm gonna have to remove these teeth and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna play this role. I gotta how these teeth taken out,
Speaker 1: and it's going to be so ever gotten you go
Speaker 1: pritt end just pretend. I feel like I feel like
Speaker 1: all of that is the culmination of of of who
Speaker 1: you are as a human being. You know, it's it's
Speaker 1: it's it's a young boy who grew up in a
Speaker 1: world where you know, he lost his parents and then
Speaker 1: and then got into an industry that that really turned
Speaker 1: into a fantastic career, and you become you know, such
Speaker 1: a such a reputable figure in it. And then on
Speaker 1: top of that, you've now used that platform to talk
Speaker 1: about the issues that are still close to you. For instance,
Speaker 1: you've got this documentary that you know that you've been
Speaker 1: making about income, inequality, money and money. You know, you know, religion,
Speaker 1: all religions are kind of like Culder Sacks way, money
Speaker 1: isn't because money is what really separates people, and those
Speaker 1: who have it have it and those who don't really don't.
Speaker 1: And that's what I've been doing over the last two
Speaker 1: or three months, four months actually, uh, trying to understand
Speaker 1: because because I'm playing this guy, you know, this fella,
Speaker 1: and because he is so impervious to the whole state
Speaker 1: of poverty, that it's important to understand the wealth gap
Speaker 1: that is increasing more and more and more and more,
Speaker 1: and in the you know, in in the United Kingdom
Speaker 1: and also in the United States. I spent some time
Speaker 1: in Miami and that was an experience in a half
Speaker 1: because there is so yeah, it really was an experience
Speaker 1: in a half because there is a lot of rich
Speaker 1: people in Miami, but equally there are a lot of
Speaker 1: poor people, poor people, emigrant people you know, who clean
Speaker 1: up the rich people's toilets, who do everything, you know,
Speaker 1: all the menial tasks, and they are treated quite cruelly.
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of them have you know, like
Speaker 1: they're building these whole high rises in certain parts of Miami,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, people are literally being put out
Speaker 1: of their hose. You know, they're given six weeks to
Speaker 1: leave their homes. And these are people who've got kids
Speaker 1: in school, who has been very hard for them to
Speaker 1: get their children to school, to do certain things, and
Speaker 1: suddenly because they're building these high rises, them are empty,
Speaker 1: you know, but it's it's it's just greed. It's sheer
Speaker 1: greed and nothing else. And my my most moving thing
Speaker 1: was I was back at my hometown of Dundee in Scotland,
Speaker 1: and on that I met this man who he came in.
Speaker 1: I was working with what they called the Larder Kitchen,
Speaker 1: where people are poor but they want to give the
Speaker 1: dignity of still being able to pay for what they get.
Speaker 1: So I was interviewed and I said, so this is
Speaker 1: for your family and he said, oh no, no, no,
Speaker 1: this is not for a family. He said, I come
Speaker 1: here on behalf of these people, older people who live
Speaker 1: in high rises who can't get out. I said, so
Speaker 1: what is this you're wearing here? He said, oh, I'm blind.
Speaker 1: That's amazing. I said, what do you mean He said, no,
Speaker 1: I'm black. I mean I can see that much. He said,
Speaker 1: but I'm really I'm officially blind. But there's nobody else
Speaker 1: doing it, so I felt I should do it, and
Speaker 1: you go, this man's a hero. And that's the thing
Speaker 1: that's great about human beings. That's when the human experiment goes,
Speaker 1: oh wait a minute, hang on, there are a few
Speaker 1: good people out there who really do these selfless things,
Speaker 1: and it's it's it's very moving, and it's very very humbling.
Speaker 1: It's humbling, it's amazing, and I'm so excited to watch
Speaker 1: it because I think one of the best storytellers because
Speaker 1: you're so engaged and you believe in it. Thank you
Speaker 1: so much for joining. You don't matter having you on,
Speaker 1: so thank you so much. Greek. All three seasons of
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