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Speaker 1: The Volume.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Jenkins and Jones on The Volume podcast Network.

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Speaker 2: It is Monday, November first, and we've got all kinds

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Speaker 2: of fun ship to talk about basketball. We're talking about

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Speaker 2: Marcus Thompson's dynasties, and uh, we're talking about Atlanta Atlanta

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Speaker 2: ing as always.

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Speaker 3: Jus ain't Atlanta yet. They ain't Atlanted yet.

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Speaker 2: I didn't say Atlanta, they're Atlanta ing.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying that. Go ahead.

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Speaker 2: The boys are here as always, Jenkins and Jones sod

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Speaker 2: by my good friends with Jetro Jenkins aka John was

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Speaker 2: Aunt Bubba's Dragonfly Jones aka Tyler.

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Speaker 3: Game.

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Speaker 2: I'm GUARDI b A k A. Mike, and we haven't

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Speaker 2: done a booger Boy of the Week in like a month,

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Speaker 2: so I'm gonna just start the episode by crowning the

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Speaker 2: booger Boy of the Week is muscles, fasms. Fuck these things.

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Speaker 2: Why does the human body do this shit? Bro?

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Speaker 3: What's going on with? What's going on with you?

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Speaker 2: So It's Friday, the Friday before Halloween, and I just

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Speaker 2: was like bending over to pick something up and it

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Speaker 2: felt like someone stabbed me with a knife on both

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Speaker 2: sides of the base of my neck. It just like

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Speaker 2: completely seized up. And I've been taking igroprofen and doing

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Speaker 2: heating paths and stretching and ship and it's just still

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Speaker 2: like I can look a little to the side, I

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Speaker 2: can look up fine, and this is as far down

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Speaker 2: as I can push my neck. Wow, I could drop

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Speaker 2: my chin like an inch and a half. And I

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Speaker 2: don't know how human body does this. It's terrible.

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Speaker 4: You got the range of motion of an action figure,

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Speaker 4: nigga that it must be fucked up for Will Smith

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Speaker 4: not to get the book A Boy.

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Speaker 3: That must be painful, you know what I mean? Good love?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Will Smith is it got to be his own

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Speaker 2: topic for sure. But let's let's let's start out talking

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Speaker 2: about basketball. I think all three of us were sort

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Speaker 2: of doing a little prayer circle emoji over the Chicago

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Speaker 2: Bulls and our NBA preview, just really wanting a good

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Speaker 2: season for the Bulls and how much fun that would be,

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Speaker 2: especially seeing how fun it was for the Knicks to

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Speaker 2: be relevant again last year. It kind of looks like

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Speaker 2: the Bulls are not just frisky, but like they are

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Speaker 2: they might be for real.

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Speaker 3: What do they getting nasty?

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Speaker 2: Do you? What do you think of the way the

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Speaker 2: Bulls have started, Tyler.

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Speaker 3: It's that they look great. You know.

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Speaker 5: I think I concerned a lot of people had was

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Speaker 5: you know, possibly you know, zach and and demarketting each

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Speaker 5: other's way, and they are meshing perfectly.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 5: So you've got two guys right there who can get

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Speaker 5: buckets off the trail, but you got a point guard

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Speaker 5: in Lonzo who locks up and knows how to run

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Speaker 5: an offense. They are the real deal man, and I

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Speaker 5: think that, I for sure think they're They're going to

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Speaker 5: the second round. Just off this small samp sides. I'm

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Speaker 5: going to go out on the ledge and get crazy

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Speaker 5: with it, getting crazy. Second round appearance for the Bulls

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Speaker 5: laid it all out there.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they they just gave the Jazz they first lost.

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Speaker 1: Talk abot how they weren't playing anybody, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean. They played the Knicks and barely lost. I

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Speaker 1: love the image of Levin with his hands up and

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Speaker 1: the rosan airballly.

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Speaker 3: You know, I respect it.

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Speaker 1: But that's the only loss, you know, to a good

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Speaker 1: Knicks team, and they gave the Jazz the first loss.

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Speaker 3: They're legit, you know, they're legit. So I'm excited they'll

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Speaker 3: be good.

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Speaker 1: This this early but you know they're they're definitely they

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Speaker 1: surprised us all and Rosen. He came back from their

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Speaker 1: ball and dropped thirty two on them niggas on the jazz,

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Speaker 1: you know, civil rights.

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Speaker 2: That's that says God intended things for Compton. Just rip

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Speaker 2: the intestines out of the fucking jazz through their belly.

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Speaker 3: Let's go.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about Zion, mister beefy boys out here. I

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Speaker 2: don't like making fun of athletes or celebrities for gaining

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Speaker 2: warming up with some cuts was brutal. Bro He looked

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Speaker 2: like me.

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Speaker 5: Out there, was out there doing the icky shuffle dog

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Speaker 5: like it was. It was not a good look, man,

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Speaker 5: But on some serious ship, Like I mean, I know

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Speaker 5: I'm not saying anything that has been said, but he's

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Speaker 5: got to get that weight down.

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Speaker 3: They no one has got to get some nutrition in

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Speaker 5: It's not even about the whole you know, keeping jokes

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Speaker 5: off his back, like you gotta get that weight down

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Speaker 5: because you don't want this dude getting an injury that's

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Speaker 5: gonna fuck his money up, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: It's that fucking simple. So the tough city to fight

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Speaker 5: that battling buddy, God damn than me. Yeah, I would

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Speaker 5: be having fucking gumbo in my pockets. Would gumbo that

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Speaker 5: I would just pull out of my box?

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Speaker 3: Bro, I haven't tell you about that.

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Speaker 5: One time I saw motherfucker pull out a Windy's side salad.

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Speaker 3: At when I was not pocket Talk about that, Talk

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Speaker 3: about that.

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Speaker 5: I was just driving to work one day. You know

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Speaker 5: how to stop like motherfuckers at the bus stop. Homie

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Speaker 5: just pulled a damn Windy's side salad out. Of course

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Speaker 5: he was at the bun Yeah, and't drunk that ship

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Speaker 5: and then then put it back. And I ain't never

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Speaker 5: seen no shit like that. That was the fattest, healthiest

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Speaker 5: shit I've ever seen in my life, of course, having

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Speaker 5: at the bus stop. Why a side salad?

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Speaker 1: Though, If you gonna pull somebody your pocket, make it

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Speaker 1: just a burger, fucking nigga.

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Speaker 3: You ain't not your pocket nigga. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: That's crazy.

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Speaker 1: I think with Zion, he's just not a professional man

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Speaker 1: like Zion just he ain't. He hasn't figured it out yet,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like the nigga is wearing

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Speaker 1: full anime fits and he's one hundred million dollar man.

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Speaker 1: It's at the contract exact with fucking Nike anime Fitch,

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Speaker 1: What do you think a nigga with.

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. The rudo stitch into a

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Speaker 5: dress shirt is eating for lunch?

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Speaker 3: You know what is a dud with dragon box on

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Speaker 3: his shoes? What is his fucking diet look like? You

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Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. Come on, gee, nigga, need to

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Speaker 3: grow up, bro.

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Speaker 1: You know, should you hurt, don't mean you ain't motherfucking

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Speaker 1: a professional basketball player.

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Speaker 3: Get you a fucking dietitian.

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Speaker 1: You know, like you said, he probably is pulling Gumbo

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Speaker 1: on his fuckings, scooping it out with his motherfucking hand

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Speaker 1: and drinking that ship.

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Speaker 3: You know, motherfucker. Turn away from the honey bun, Turn

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Speaker 3: away from the ben Ya. You're grown now It's time

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Speaker 3: to grow up. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Goddamn, Peter Pan you out here, Wallace, You out here,

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Speaker 1: built like me, nigga, not even monkey. I'm doing more

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Speaker 1: cardio than my.

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Speaker 3: You when we all had dinner.

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Speaker 2: You only have one kind of car, you're he needs

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Speaker 2: to be built like you.

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Speaker 3: You know, well that go there.

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Speaker 2: He needs a John food discipline though.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean, I can't. I don't have

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Speaker 3: carbs for dinner, for doing donuts later. I can't Dallas,

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Speaker 3: motherfucker Ballace. Hey, wait till we forty five.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, y'allne like a bag of candy,

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Speaker 1: nigga out of here.

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Speaker 2: I won't be here.

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Speaker 3: You don't say that we're gonna put that into the earth, nigga.

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Speaker 3: Fuck I rebuked that bullshit.

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Speaker 2: You make a great point because everyone's been talking about

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Speaker 2: the gumbo, but it's the animated factors into it too,

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Speaker 2: Like he's having Mountain Deke code red with the side

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Speaker 2: of Benny.

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Speaker 3: Ads, like you know, watching you feel me.

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Speaker 1: This ain't high school, nigga, This ain't high school.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's time to grow up and put that

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Speaker 3: fucking anime ass, tacky ass sh it away.

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Speaker 1: Country ass, nigga, I'm country too, and I ain't looking

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Speaker 1: like that out here.

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Speaker 3: We're got yeahn bro, sweet Zion.

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Speaker 5: It's time to move on from pulling the gumbo out

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Speaker 5: your pockets, and it's trying to pull side Sellads out

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Speaker 5: your pocket, right, and you need to go back to

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Speaker 5: ride the bus. You didn't get your you didn't get

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Speaker 5: your mind together. You get way too comfortable, big fella.

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Speaker 3: Come on now, Sez, I mean you can and make

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Speaker 3: a dude. You saw these cuts. You saw these cuts.

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Speaker 3: He was a la marine.

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Speaker 2: That's it looked like me because it took him three

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Speaker 2: steps to make a one step cut, you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean, Like and then and then he rested at

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Speaker 2: the bitch like the way he ran out of the

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Speaker 2: back end of the drill with the like kind of like,

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Speaker 2: here's a lot of side to side on those steps,

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Speaker 2: Like oh god, damn, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, fuck around to eat himself out the league.

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Speaker 1: That ain't shit. Ain't cool, bro, It can fucking around happen,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. He got a particular body type.

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Speaker 1: You know I'm familiar with that. My dad's built like

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Speaker 1: a troll. Hein he built likes he built for war.

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Speaker 2: Nigga.

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Speaker 1: He looked like the motherfucking troll with the motherfucking acts.

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Speaker 1: He's an axe carrying motherfucker. Okay, I know what time

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Speaker 1: it is with me. That's why I don't be eating

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Speaker 1: them cards.

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Speaker 2: Y'all.

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Speaker 3: Family probably different than mom, you feel me.

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Speaker 1: My dad built like a motherfucker chest to draw. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I gotta fight that ship for the rest of my

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Speaker 1: motherfucking life. I know what Zion going through.

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Speaker 2: Nigga.

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Speaker 1: You know, one car for dinner, if you got donuts.

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Speaker 1: You feel me, It's time, nigga look at me.

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Speaker 6: Let's talk about the wildest quote in sports. Last week,

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Speaker 6: Joe Kim, Noah and New York Natives said that when

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Speaker 6: Derek Rose tore his ACL, it felt like it was

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Speaker 6: nine to eleven.

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Speaker 2: And to be clear, this was not a misspeak. This

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Speaker 2: is what he told ESPN. Quote. When I found out

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Speaker 2: Derek Torre's ACL, I remember the smells, who I was

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Speaker 2: with everything. I had the same feeling of when I

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Speaker 2: saw the plane hit the tower. People will be like,

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Speaker 2: he's crazy for saying that. No, I'm telling you how I.

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Speaker 1: Felt that Nigga stepped on that set then he stood

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Speaker 1: on that mom Hey, relate, I get I get the feeling.

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Speaker 3: I get that he.

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Speaker 1: Didn't that will remember the moment, you know that vividly,

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Speaker 1: and maybe he felt the same, which is wild.

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Speaker 3: But to say it is what's crazy to me.

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Speaker 1: I can understand everything prior to that until it comes

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Speaker 1: out your fucking mouth.

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Speaker 3: That's wild.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Like like you know, I get the whole

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Speaker 5: it's it's one of those moments where you remember everything.

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Speaker 3: I get that whole stance. But why I throw nine

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Speaker 3: eleven into that shit?

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Speaker 2: Bro? Why?

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Speaker 3: I mean for what? It doesn't really need to be said, because.

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Speaker 5: Everyone fucking remembers where they were when they first you know,

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Speaker 5: That's the comparison, you know, Yeah, come on, Joe Kim,

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Speaker 1: That's wild to me, Bro, unnecessary Joe Kim and any

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Speaker 1: That is, like I get it, but it's so you

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Speaker 5: Mean, that is, bro, there's no way. It's like it's

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Speaker 2: Okay, No, hell no, it's certain things that are not

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Speaker 3: That's what got me tripping. My cousins is wild. My

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Speaker 2: the Grand Slam, I'm like, good, fuck the Astros, you

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 2: You hit a Grand Slam at home in a World

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Speaker 3: Atlanta, it really falls through you hit a grass slam

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Speaker 2: With Donald Trump in attend the South.

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Speaker 3: You know, fuck, come on now, shit, well, racism lost

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Speaker 2: It was it was the races.

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Speaker 3: There we go, there we go, but it was Atlanta

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Speaker 5: Because I realize speaking of guys blowing three to one leads,

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Speaker 3: Three on lead. Bro, that's the fresh Prince, and he's.

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Speaker 2: Ruining blowing a seventy four o lead. This is the

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Speaker 2: dude who, over the course of our lifetimes might be

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Speaker 2: number one on the power rankings of who would you

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Speaker 2: trade lives with? When we were seven, when we were fifteen,

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Speaker 3: Not pay me to live with life no way. Begging

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Speaker 3: for pussy in his own home. You know, you live

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Speaker 3: in a fucking bro.

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Speaker 1: You have forty five rooms in your house and you

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Speaker 3: That's crazy.

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Speaker 1: Yo, Tom, you told this your daughter, Shid. I wish

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Speaker 1: you talking to talking to Jader. I wish you married Tupac.

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Speaker 3: That's some wild shit.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine being a kid and you open your

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Speaker 3: That's a memorable moment, Like, holy shit, and you have

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Speaker 3: ruined being Will Smith. You've ruined being the fresh Prince.

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Speaker 3: I went involved.

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Speaker 1: I went involved, rather flowers from a florist. I didn't

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Speaker 3: I went to that. I said, this can happen to

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Speaker 3: I can't do it. Bro motivation, Thank you Will Smith

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Speaker 3: for fucking that shit up. She got me my mind

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Speaker 3: tightened up. That shit brought me to my soul. I

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Speaker 3: told y'all, shit, I'm like the Will Smith. I can

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Speaker 3: make a pussy in the clip. God Damn, I can't

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Speaker 3: be your butt.

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Speaker 5: Can't he your mot Hell No, that that red table

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Speaker 5: is the worst thing that ever happened to Like that

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Speaker 5: ship is just some motherfucking round table, Like every week

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Speaker 5: of fucking you know, goddamn Willow and Jada of how

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Speaker 5: much we do not really fuck with will.

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Speaker 3: Today. That's where that is the agenda.

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Speaker 5: Whenever they pull out that motherfucking red table, I don't

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Speaker 5: and then the thing is bro It's like, you know,

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Speaker 5: Jada and will I have kind of pulled off the

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Speaker 5: mystike about Will, you know what I mean, Like, like

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Speaker 5: you know, they they went into detail about you know,

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Speaker 5: Jada had the story about how when she first started

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Speaker 5: the middle of getting her farm set up in Maryland,

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Speaker 5: that she always won her whole life, and it was like, nah,

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Speaker 5: that's not what we're doing. We're moving to La you

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Speaker 5: know what I mean. And that that made me look

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Speaker 5: at will different right there, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: That wasn't romantic, that was fucking controlling, low key abusive

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Speaker 5: on the low and ever since then, you know, Willo

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Speaker 5: had the story about how controlling he was about the

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Speaker 5: whole with whip my hairshit when she had that single

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Speaker 5: going and she wanted to He wanted her to go

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Speaker 3: She just cut her hair off.

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Speaker 5: Like, if you push a fucking eleven year old to

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Speaker 3: Are doing something very wrong with your parentcing, bro.

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Speaker 5: And like I said, that whole motherfucking red table, it

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Speaker 3: Dog. I mean Jada, she got out here fucking her

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Speaker 1: I mean, and this probably ain't you know, like you

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Speaker 1: I don't really trip off the ship, you know when

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Speaker 1: it comes to the farm shit.

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Speaker 3: Obviously not romantic, but you know she's an adult. She

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Speaker 3: your daughter don't fuck with you. Your daughter, don't fuck

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Speaker 1: Bro. You dog was my dad, right, You've got your

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Speaker 1: daughter saying this, Bro, your child, she half for you,

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Speaker 1: nigga to be the other half. That's wild, bro, that's wild.

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Speaker 1: That's what tripped me out. Like you know, the farm shit,

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Speaker 1: I mean you you you you make it all that

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Speaker 3: She can have a farm. You can live in l a.

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Speaker 3: You know, I think that's not a big deal. You know,

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Speaker 3: that's just me, you know whatever, but that you as

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Speaker 3: much you.

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Speaker 2: Have yes and money you feel me you have Yes,

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Speaker 2: We're gonna buy this the main and the biggest house

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Speaker 3: Right right, yeah.

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Speaker 5: But the whole thing is, the whole thing is is

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Speaker 5: Jade has kind of shown us that will isn't open

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Speaker 5: to compromise, and and and same thing with Willow.

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Speaker 3: It's his way or no way, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 3: So Jada can leave will Okay, that's what tripped me out,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, damn Willo. That's that's your own child. Is

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Speaker 1: like when your own child is on that ship, are

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Speaker 1: you not stopping to think? Like, Okay, I'm like, I'm

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Speaker 1: a fuck nigga. I'm a fuck nigger. I've become a

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Speaker 1: fuck nigga. I got him fixed it.

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Speaker 3: I gotta you know what I'm saying, We gotta figure

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Speaker 2: It just feels like there's a need to like win

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Speaker 2: But like it's that Joseph Heller Kurvanna get quote we

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Speaker 2: never have? I have enough, you know what I mean? Like,

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Speaker 2: like you are Will Smith. You don't need to force

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Speaker 2: to do. That's what I need to do, you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean, Smith her, You're gonna buy her that

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Speaker 2: you can't afford already, Like you are the guy and

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Speaker 2: the family that can just enjoy being alive without having

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Speaker 2: to always chase the next shit like and I mean,

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Speaker 2: look what I like Will Smith's money. Yes? Is Will

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Speaker 2: Smith a better looking dude than me? Yes? Is he

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00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,280
Speaker 2: more successful than me? Yes? Do I have to deal

441
00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:53,640
Speaker 2: with my wife talking on her podcast about how much

442
00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,480
Speaker 2: better it was to have sex with someone else with

443
00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,000
Speaker 2: me and how hard it is to maintain a sex

444
00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:01,200
Speaker 2: life with me now? And I wouldn't I trade anything

445
00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,200
Speaker 2: for that experience. Bro, you are Will Smith, and it

446
00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:09,360
Speaker 2: does not buy your way out of your wife is saying, boy,

447
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:15,520
Speaker 2: it's hard to keep it is?

448
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:21,520
Speaker 3: Oh god, it is, my bird. I am yo with

449
00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:25,640
Speaker 3: the weight of having to keep Will Smith.

450
00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 1: I mean when I read the article and she didn't

451
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,879
Speaker 1: say it like in the worst way, right, you know

452
00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:33,520
Speaker 1: what I mean? She was like, it's just it takes

453
00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,400
Speaker 1: a lot of communication, which is true.

454
00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,400
Speaker 2: What he actually said is what she actually said is true,

455
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,440
Speaker 2: Like you've been together for a long time. It takes

456
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,480
Speaker 2: communication and work for sure, which is true.

457
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 3: But the internet ain't saying that. And that's what. That's

458
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:47,200
Speaker 3: what matters.

459
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,120
Speaker 5: Your wife don't want you to drop dick off iner

460
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 5: and you out here begging for that pussy dog.

461
00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 3: That is that's a horrifying reality.

462
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,120
Speaker 5: You know what I mean to wake up to when

463
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 5: you turn the computer computer on and you fucking will Smith.

464
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:08,119
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like, she's that's wild as hell, bro, And.

465
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 2: I will say because the thing with the thing with

466
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 2: his daughter is a real thing, that's what.

467
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:14,879
Speaker 3: That's what that's.

468
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,440
Speaker 2: That's a big pods button in life. Because I'm my

469
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 2: I'm my daughter's second favorite parent. She would be right.

470
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,120
Speaker 2: We just watched the Census Trails of Horror where Lisa

471
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 2: had to pick which parent. They're like, we have a

472
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 2: really heartbreaking decision. I need you to choose which parent

473
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,159
Speaker 2: comes on the rocket ship with you and she just goes.

474
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,639
Speaker 3: Mom like that, No, emotion.

475
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 2: That would be my daughter, like Mom's number one for sure.

476
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,400
Speaker 2: But one time I was frustrated about something to work

477
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,400
Speaker 2: and she asked me what's wrong, and I, like jokingly,

478
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,720
Speaker 2: I was like, like, I'm the worst writer in the

479
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 2: world today, and she she like teared up. She was like, no,

480
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,160
Speaker 2: you're not. Like you know what I mean. She came

481
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:55,639
Speaker 2: over and hugged my knee.

482
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

483
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 2: Like, you fucked that up? Bro.

484
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,119
Speaker 3: That That's what I'm saying.

485
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:06,440
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying that Like, dog, I imagine seeing

486
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,160
Speaker 1: Will Smith is like I get to be Will Smith's

487
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 1: fucking child. It was a blessing to her.

488
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:13,119
Speaker 3: And you fucked that up.

489
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 1: Bro.

490
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 3: That's wild to me. You wiling? You wilding?

491
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 6: Bro?

492
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 3: You know you wilding to me, You're.

493
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:25,120
Speaker 2: Going over speaking of wilding and uh celebrities from the nineties,

494
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 2: John you wanted to talk about it was hardly for

495
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 2: me to comprehend this tweet. You wanted to talk Chris Crosser,

496
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 2: What did you want to talk about? This?

497
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:34,919
Speaker 3: What happened?

498
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 1: Bro?

499
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,159
Speaker 3: This what happened. I was brother was in India, you

500
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 3: feel what I'm saying?

501
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 1: For and overseas all different countries to ship when she

502
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 1: was younger, so she didn't grow up seeing these like

503
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:45,920
Speaker 1: you know, she she didn't know who Jodas he was.

504
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,879
Speaker 3: She knew who mister like and shit was, but she

505
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:49,920
Speaker 3: didn't know like she didn't. She wasn't around for that.

506
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 3: Do you feel me?

507
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,159
Speaker 1: So like I'm playing her like all ship, Like she

508
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 1: knew SWV was and all that ship, but she didn't

509
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:56,120
Speaker 1: know like certain people.

510
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 3: So I was like, yo, she she thought that, uh

511
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 3: that oh boy from me mature? What's the due? The

512
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:02,639
Speaker 3: lead singer?

513
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 1: She shows me Marks Houston. She only knew him as

514
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 1: Roger from from sister's sister. That's funny. I can remember

515
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 1: his name is Roger, not Marcus Houston.

516
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 3: That's crazy. I think it was a Roger ass nigga

517
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 3: though him as Roger.

518
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, nah, this dude was one of the ones

519
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 1: like kids wanted to be him as a kid. So

520
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 1: I show I played like I Am Max and all

521
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 1: that ship, and we were like like watching it as

522
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 1: an adult, it's like these niggas, you know, I will

523
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 1: never lie again, Like, bro, you aren't eight, you know

524
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 1: what I mean?

525
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 2: Last far?

526
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 3: What the fuck you know about forever?

527
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 2: You know?

528
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 3: Just another bad creation all these dudes, Like, I'm like,

529
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:43,439
Speaker 3: this ship is.

530
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 1: Wild, bro, kept how weird was it that we saw

531
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 1: that they were dressed like little men talking about man ship.

532
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 3: There was one video where the girl was probably twenty five.

533
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 3: I'm like, what is Markus Shuston? This is a this

534
00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:58,880
Speaker 3: is a grown ass woman.

535
00:24:58,920 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 2: And he's singing her.

536
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 3: This is gross. Crazy motherfucker's talking about we soft? Now, nigga,

537
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 3: we was crazy back in the day. We was crazy.

538
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 3: We ain't soft now we got We're getting some sanity

539
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 3: about a song A little bit that.

540
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 1: Is wild, you know, got the nigga in invests, Hey

541
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 1: your hold and invest in booze. Hey, what the hell?

542
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: It's crazy thinking about you know what I'm saying, sex

543
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 1: and quotations like, it's gross, it's wild.

544
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 3: We were watching that shit like, holy shit, I could

545
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 3: not believe, bro, is that is that? Was that sit

546
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 3: not wild?

547
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 5: When you think about it, it was it is like

548
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 5: I remember, you know, one of those you know throwback

549
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:45,360
Speaker 5: you know, music accounts posted a video of Little Vicious Freak.

550
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 3: You remember that song? Yeah, yeah, yeah, got a freak.

551
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 5: They got a little freak out the week that ship

552
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 5: and I was like, yeah, this is my ship. And

553
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 5: then I went and looked at it. I was like,

554
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 5: this motherfucker is twelve talking about eating pussy and fucking.

555
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 5: I was like, I cannot retweet this.

556
00:25:58,720 --> 00:25:59,880
Speaker 3: I was like, what the fuck?

557
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 5: Because you know, the thing is, when you're that age,

558
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 5: you think you're grown too, right, whether there's something that

559
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 5: that's too raunchy or too adult for you, because you

560
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 5: think you're grown as well. So yeah, looking back on it,

561
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 5: it's it's crazy your kids are really out here. It's

562
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,120
Speaker 5: sexually explicit, explicit as fuck.

563
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, this nigga mic is in the middle of the

564
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 1: biggest sean I've ever seen.

565
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 2: God, it's a podcast. I'm supposed to be able to yawn.

566
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 1: You look like you bro, you like your mom was

567
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 1: gonna open up, and another head it was gonna come out.

568
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 3: Another mic was Nigga, whoa, that was some fucking men

569
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 3: in black ship right there.

570
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: Show later, ask nigga that's the type of yonn This

571
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: nigga just dropped off.

572
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 3: Goddamn.

573
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,320
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581
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Speaker 7: All right, let's talk about Marcustoms Dynasties.

605
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 2: That's our book we've been reading for the book club.

606
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 2: We did not talk about it last week's We had

607
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 2: Chay Serrano on to talk about his book. But we're

608
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 2: talking four chapters and then do we want to finish

609
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 2: it this Thursday or next Thursday?

610
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 3: How many more chapters we got?

611
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 2: Let me we'll do one more, one more. We have

612
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 2: four chapters, love basically, so we'll do one more.

613
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 3: So we got finished it? Do we got four? Or

614
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 3: do we got that's not basically? Let me see there's

615
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 3: four with a like, Let's plit it in half. Let's

616
00:28:58,800 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 3: put it in half.

617
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 2: So we'll do two more on Thursday, another two after that.

618
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I think it's five. It's five chapters. That's five. Yeah,

619
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 3: so we'll do three and then two.

620
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so today we are talking about the

621
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 2: Magic Lakers, the Birds, Celtics, the Bad Boy Pistons, and

622
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 2: the Michael Gordon Bulls. I feel like those are basketball

623
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 2: teams people talk about.

624
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 3: This was fun, This was fun.

625
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 2: This was the dessert for sure.

626
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 3: You feel me finally got into some players who I

627
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,239
Speaker 3: was actually alive to see. That's what tripped me out.

628
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 3: The first chapter. I was learning a lot and that

629
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 3: was great. But I'm like, I don't give a fuck

630
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 3: about George, Mike and Dogg, you know what I'm saying.

631
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 3: But but I was.

632
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: It was interesting, like the little titbit to like jumping

633
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: Joe and ship, you know, that was that was fire.

634
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 1: But I'm I'm I'm you know, obviously anti old nigga basketball.

635
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 3: That shit is it was not basketball. But then anyway, now,

636
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 3: this was fun as hell, right right. The Bird chapter

637
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 3: was the one.

638
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 5: Now that that fucking excerpt on birds shit talking and

639
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:04,959
Speaker 5: how he did like white people guarding him.

640
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 1: I'd heard about that Josiah tells me about that shit

641
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: all the time. I thought it was a joke because

642
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: he's a funny ass dude. I know he's smart, but

643
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: I didn't know it, like bro, that shit, Like, yeah,

644
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: he really got mad when white people called it.

645
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 3: Yo, he needs to be an honorary nigga. Bro number

646
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 3: one draft pick in the racial draft.

647
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 1: I want Larry Bird. That's a cold motherfucker dog. He

648
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 1: was talking that shit shit, you know he was. He

649
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: looked at the white man, What did you do to

650
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: the coach and make him? Make him put you on me?

651
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 1: What you would have got the coach got going?

652
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 3: Y'all need therapy?

653
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 1: He talking that good ship. Larry Bird was a fucking monster,

654
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And he and he was

655
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: telling niggas what he was doing prior to doing it,

656
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: you know, like in fucking championship games. You know what

657
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I'm gonna curl across Him'm gonna go to

658
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:56,959
Speaker 1: the corner. I'm shooting the street and a goddamn thing

659
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: can do about this motherfucker and he do it.

660
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 2: The funniest thing about Larry Bird's hatred of white basketball

661
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 2: players was that he did the quote that people always

662
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 2: white people always do when they're talking about not caring

663
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 2: about race, like I don't care if you're white, black, yellow, purple.

664
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 2: You know that's that quote, but then made it anti

665
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 2: white people, right right, right right, if you're black, yellow,

666
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 2: or red.

667
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 3: But don't don't put that week ass. That's a disrespect

668
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 3: that's disrespectful. You feel what I'm saying? Like, dog, did

669
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 3: you see that?

670
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 2: Was? It was?

671
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: It was?

672
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 2: He was?

673
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 3: He was He played like Juco force a year or

674
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 3: two or something.

675
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: He left Indiana and went to because he was homesick,

676
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: played jugo for a second, then went to Indiana State.

677
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: They drafted him prior to even like leaving college. He

678
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: is elected to state state in Indiana State another year

679
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: and they're.

680
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 3: Like, okay, we'll wait. We're gonna wait for you, Bubba.

681
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. That's a cold motherfucker. Dog.

682
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: You can't take ship from Larry Birry, Bro. I mean,

683
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: he felt like he was top ten, that motherfucker. Hey, bro,

684
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: when see I don't know, could you imagine Larry Bird now?

685
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 3: Oh he too?

686
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: Oh my god, and the way he was talking shit,

687
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: Come on, bro, I'd have me a bird jersey right now,

688
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: I might Bobby one low key fucking you know what

689
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I'm I'm not a celtn sparer, but Bird

690
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 1: was a motherfucking dog.

691
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 3: That shit was incredible to read.

692
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 2: I just thought it was funny because I you know,

693
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 2: being a Lakers guy, I love the Magic Lakers chapter.

694
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 2: I thought was incredible. It was super fun, and it

695
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 2: was a really great description of how the Lakers and

696
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,719
Speaker 2: Jerry Buss created the modern NBA. It was like the celebrity,

697
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, like creating what it is now.

698
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 2: That was so fun. But he acknowledges and it's interesting

699
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 2: because the thesis of this book is kind of that

700
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 2: nothing is more hated than dynasties, and hatred propelled the

701
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 2: NBA to, you know, the front of the American psyche.

702
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 2: And he makes the point in the book the racial

703
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 2: dynamic between the Lakers and the Celtics was a big

704
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 2: part of why that rivalry got fire in this country.

705
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 2: And so it's really hilarious to me for him to

706
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 2: contextualize this stuff about Bird in that way. It's like, meanwhile,

707
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 2: the white dude who was the face of the whiter

708
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 2: franchise in the Whiter City hated white basketball.

709
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 3: What did white players stay to fuck away from him?

710
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: This man dropped sixty in a game, and the Hawks started.

711
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 3: On Dominique, a young Dominique, and the Hawks started cheering

712
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 3: for him, started cheering for him. Bro on the team,

713
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 3: like the team, like on the bitch that he hit

714
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 3: a he hit a teat.

715
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: A shot he said, are you shooting that motherfucker from

716
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: the from the trainer's lap?

717
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

718
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: Hit the shot gets knocked to the trainer's lap and

719
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: two niggas on the bitch high five to the foot.

720
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: When a coach fucking finds him because he's mad because

721
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: they're cheering for the other nigga, Larry Bird. That is crazy.

722
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. This is the pro That

723
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: is a couple. What the fuck else you gotta say

724
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: about this man?

725
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 3: That's it. I've never heard of no shit like that. Also,

726
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 3: it makes me think that I.

727
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: See, I see why motherfuckers that watched basketball then are like, Yo,

728
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: that was it.

729
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 3: It's definitely fun.

730
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 7: Now.

731
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: The players are for sure better. The players in this

732
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,919
Speaker 1: era could play in any era. That's how I feel.

733
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,479
Speaker 1: This is the best basketball. We're saying, but that Bro.

734
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 3: The way niggas was moving back then was real different.

735
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: I missed that there was no technical file and they

736
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: didn't even have technical files. The clothes line was a

737
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: fucking file. File nigga, that's file nigga, right, but there's.

738
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 3: A fucking file that's crazy to me. Bro man that. Yeah.

739
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go ahead and read the section about Bird

740
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 5: talking about white guys here.

741
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 3: I think it's important for the listeners to hear.

742
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 5: In March nineteen eighty seven, the Celtics went to Chicago

743
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 5: to face the Bulls and the Michael Jordan Ben Poquette,

744
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 5: in his tenth and final season, never heard of his motherfucker.

745
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 3: He sound like a food. He sound like a food.

746
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 3: Bro's gonna be to ate the fuck up. Yeah.

747
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 5: Ben Poquette, in his tenth and final season, got the

748
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 5: start that night. Legend has that when Bird saw who

749
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 5: was defending him, he turned to the then Bulls coach

750
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 5: Doug Collins and expressed his disappointment. Ben Poquette, Bird told Collins,

751
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 5: are you fucking kidding me? Bird had a thing about

752
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 5: being defended by white guys. He was so good and

753
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 5: so confident he wanted the best defender on him at

754
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 5: the time. White players went on for their lack of

755
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 5: athleticism and poor defense, so Bird one of the best

756
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,760
Speaker 5: black players to defend him. The one thing that always

757
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 5: bothered me when I played in the NBA was I

758
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 5: really got irritated when.

759
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 3: They put a white guy on me. Bird told ESPN, I.

760
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 5: Still don't understand why a white guy would come out.

761
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 5: I would always ask him, what do you have a

762
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 5: problem with your coach? Did your coach do to see you?

763
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 5: And he go no, And I said, come on, you

764
00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 5: got a white guy coming out here to guard me,

765
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 5: got no chance. For some reason, that always bothered me

766
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 5: when I was playing against the white guy. As far

767
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 5: as playing, I didn't care who guarded me, red, yellow, black.

768
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,760
Speaker 5: I just didn't want a white guy guarded me because

769
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 5: the respects of my game.

770
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 8: This got on ESPN and it said that ship, yeah,

771
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 8: I don't care, just don't send any of those white

772
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 8: guys my way. Kingdom white guys around me, I tell

773
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 8: you that.

774
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 3: That is too funny.

775
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,720
Speaker 2: So I wanted to say, actually, my favorite chapter of these.

776
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 2: You know, if you're a basketball fan of any kind

777
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 2: and you've heard you've heard every story about the the

778
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 2: m J Bulls, that was when I grew up that

779
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 2: those teams are why I'm a basketball fan.

780
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 3: We were right there.

781
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'll be honest with you, there's really nothing

782
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 2: in that chapter that I did not already. I've read

783
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 2: everything there is to read about those kids. The Magic

784
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,280
Speaker 2: Lakers I thought was really beautifully done. The Bird Celtics,

785
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 2: I thought was beautifully done. But I'll be honest with you,

786
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 2: this was the most I've learned about the bad boy

787
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 2: Pistons in a while, because I don't think I've ever

788
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 2: read anything centered on them. They're always the bad guy

789
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 2: in the comic book that I'm reading, you.

790
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 3: Know what I mean?

791
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and too, And it was I was a little

792
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 2: too young. I was like four five years old when

793
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 2: they were right right right, And so seeing their story

794
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 2: from their perspective in this chapter, I'm like, I would

795
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 2: love this team if they played today.

796
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 3: Love And it's what's wild.

797
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, I guess it was. It was

798
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: anti MJ. So it was like, I guess you had

799
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: to choose a side back there. You feel me, but

800
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: you know the raiders of fucking basketball. You know what

801
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 1: I mean, the way and you know you don't, dude,

802
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: you feel me? And then defensively what they were. But no,

803
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: they were a offensive team that could play defense. We

804
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 1: always think of them are just bruisers, you know, they

805
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 1: know bruisers gonna win fucking chips in the fucking you know,

806
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 1: great ain't a whole bunch of great guys. The ship

807
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 1: about fucking Isaiah with the hop and on one leg,

808
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 1: like we've always all seen that ship. But the way

809
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: they talked about it like this is is crazy. I

810
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: feel like, honestly, if I was, if I was me

811
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 1: now back then, I would have been definitely been. I

812
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: would have had me Isaiah Jersey, you feel me? I mean,

813
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: and I know I talked it talks about the things he's.

814
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 2: Done in the story.

815
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, his story. I mean, I've read about his

816
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,919
Speaker 1: story before, you know. I mean, but like the things

817
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: he's done for, like the community special Look.

818
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 3: It's that that whole you know.

819
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 5: Going back to what you said about the sprained ankle,

820
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 5: uh third quarter in Game six, nineteen eighty eight, first

821
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,240
Speaker 5: of all best quarter in Finals history by anybody.

822
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 3: And the thing is they were they were a game seven.

823
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 5: They were a sprained ankle away from beating the Lakers

824
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 5: back to back. Like how different is Zeke's and Magic's trajectory.

825
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 5: If trajectory the trajectory of Dragonfly Space Jones, Right, if

826
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 5: Zeke has a three peet under his belt, if he

827
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 5: takes a ring from Magic and he's had three rings

828
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 5: and Magic's at four, We're having a discussion about those two, bro.

829
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 5: We're having a really different discussion about those two. I

830
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 5: think right now, a lot of people have Zeke as

831
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 5: the second best point guard, you know, be behind Magic.

832
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 3: I personally have step there.

833
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 5: A lot of people have Zeke, though, But if ze

834
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 5: like I said, if Zeke runs off a three p

835
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 5: if he beats Magic and back to back finals to

836
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 5: get two of those rings, the discussion is different.

837
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 3: Bro. The numbers was right?

838
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: Numbers, Yeah, yeah, I get the I get the chip shit.

839
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: But them numbers, Bro, what the numbers Magic was putting

840
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: up with?

841
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 3: Fucking the same? You know what I mean?

842
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,760
Speaker 1: I think as a I mean this is high school obviously,

843
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 1: but the nigga put up thirty six and eighteen and

844
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: a fucking as a as a sophomore, I believe in

845
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: a championship game.

846
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 3: Like the fuck is that nigga? You know what I mean?

847
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 3: Like that ship was?

848
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 1: I mean even the bus shit, like when they what

849
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: I learned about like uh like uh, Michael Jackson being

850
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:57,240
Speaker 1: declined for fucking court side seats season dude, Okay, Michael

851
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,720
Speaker 1: motherfuckers was fainting in his presence.

852
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 3: Okay, he was.

853
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: He was as close as any human has been to

854
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 1: a god on his fucking planet in the in modern ages.

855
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying, And like, sorry, Mike sold

856
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: out Bubba Maybe next year probably not though, you know,

857
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 1: like that's crazy, but yeah, I feel like, dude, Isaiah,

858
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: I mean, as special as he was, he does not

859
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 1: get the love he deserves and that team doesn't. And

860
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 1: I felt the same way you did. Mike Greener is

861
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: like whoa Like I had a revelation. I've always been

862
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 1: thought it was right right.

863
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 3: Wait, I funck with these niggas, you know, like wait,

864
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 3: this is my type of niggas.

865
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. That's right, you know what

866
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 2: I mean?

867
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 5: I mean, I mean the Zeke beat Bird, he beat Jordan,

868
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 5: he beat Magic for rings, you know what I mean,

869
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,760
Speaker 5: like back to back.

870
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 2: Else, you know, and then you know there's.

871
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 5: A I just want to say one last thing about Zeke.

872
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 5: There's a there's a great story about when they did

873
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 5: the NBA fifty, you know, and they did the photoshoot

874
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 5: for that, and they wanted to put you know, the

875
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 5: the the the eighties and the nineties champs altogether. And

876
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 5: so you know, they've got you know, Bird Walton Parish,

877
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 5: you know, Mikhale there, They've got motherfucking MJ and Pitt.

878
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 5: You know, they've got fucking Magic and Kareem and Worthy there,

879
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,399
Speaker 5: and Zeke is there. And Zeke looks around and he says,

880
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,240
Speaker 5: I'm the only one here without a teammate.

881
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 3: And that's drop you feel me, that's heavy, heavy talk,

882
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 3: I do.

883
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 2: I do think One thing that's interesting is I wonder

884
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 2: how much different his reputation is if he's paired with

885
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 2: basically anyone other than Bill Lambier, because it was it

886
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 2: was obvious from the chapter that a lot of the

887
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 2: hatred that found its way to the Pistons was specifically

888
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:54,240
Speaker 2: because of Lamberd. It's just difficult for me to imagine magic,

889
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 2: and it's difficult to not imagine people embracing Isaiah's story.

890
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 2: But they the quotes in the chapter from what Isaiah

891
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 2: punched Lambier, his teammate and broke his hand punching him

892
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 2: so funny. But you couldn't You couldn't have punched a

893
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 2: better person.

894
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 3: Wasn't that like Scott Styles or something like?

895
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, people were celebrating like good for Isaiah.

896
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 3: It was a dude from a son the sun got

897
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,439
Speaker 3: a pointing herd from the sun. Good for Yeah.

898
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: And also the walkout trip me out too, where I

899
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: was like everybody was walking out, you know what I mean.

900
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 1: But I think the thing was like, Bro, everybody loved Bird,

901
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: everybody loved Magic, everybody loved him Jay Isaiah that they

902
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: I mean, so even if it wasn't Lambert, you know,

903
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: I think it was like Isaiah just he was the

904
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: one that people.

905
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 3: Decided to hate. You weren't gonna hate Bird, you know,

906
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 3: you weren't gonna hate Magic. You weren't gonna hate him Jay.

907
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 3: So that's it.

908
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: So he so he fell there. But I mean, as

909
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 1: far as what I'm what I'm reading, I mean, that's

910
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: that's that'd be my type of nigga watching if I'm

911
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: watching him play, you know what I mean, And and

912
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 1: and and and they brand that makes sense to me.

913
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 1: But yeah, that walk out, like how they turned them

914
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 1: into like the media turned them into like bad guys

915
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: they was walking out the years before that. You know

916
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, I think Bird said, why the

917
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 1: funk would I shake these niggas hands?

918
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, They just beat me the

919
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 3: seasons over wish.

920
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 2: I don't think that's an exact quote, but yeah.

921
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 5: I said, well, you know what I'm translating, You feel me,

922
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 5: I'm saying what Bird thought, but could say, you know

923
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 5: what I'm saying.

924
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 3: No, but like yeah, Dog, like yeah, it's it's it's

925
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 3: it's wow.

926
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 1: How the media tried to turn them into that, and

927
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: and and even they were like, shit, if y'all want

928
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 1: to turn us into the into the Raiders type team,

929
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: fuck we leaning in.

930
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 3: That's not what they were trying to be, right.

931
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 2: So the Bulls chapter, like I said, you know, it

932
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 2: didn't contain really much. It was it was certainly well

933
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 2: written and well told. There's definitely stories that if you're

934
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 2: our age, you grew up, you know, soaked in these

935
00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 2: some brightening in these fucking.

936
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 3: Stories, right right, right right.

937
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 2: But there was a stat that was crazy right at

938
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 2: the beginning. I'm forgetting the exact number, but I want

939
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 2: to say it was like that they sent home Michael

940
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 2: Jordan sent home more Hall of Famers than any other

941
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 2: player in NBA history in the playoffs by like double.

942
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 2: It was like twenty Hall of Famers or something.

943
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:25,399
Speaker 1: To me, Yeah, it's crazy, though, it's a crazy stat,

944
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: but it's a stat that's like, Okay, of course we

945
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: saw him because going home, he left nothing for anybody.

946
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 3: Bro, he left nothing for nobody. That man to give

947
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:34,879
Speaker 3: a fuck.

948
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 1: He competed like it was a fucking finals in the

949
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 1: in the fucking All Star Game, you know what I'm saying.

950
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 2: No less than twenty Hall of Famers were eliminated from

951
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 2: the playoffs by the Bulls. Six of them bounced multiple times.

952
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 2: Patrick Ewing lost five times, Charles Barkley lost three times.

953
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 2: Carl Malone and John Stockton have two NBA Finals losses

954
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 2: to Jordan. Reggie Miller didn't make an NBA Finals until

955
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 2: Jordan retired.

956
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 3: Nobody was eating ug right, motherfucking bite.

957
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 2: That's crazy. I'm very excited for the next chapters. We

958
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 2: got the Yeah, I mean the Shaq and Kobe Lakers

959
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 2: is my that's my that is my ship.

960
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 3: That was high school for me. Bro.

961
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 2: We were right, we were the most ignorant young Lakers fans.

962
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 3: Why do things in high school that happen in high

963
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 3: school means so much to us? Even now? It's wild.

964
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 2: You know, your brain turns on you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

965
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 2: vacating system one way, whether it's good or bad, that's

966
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 2: your operating system for the rest of your life.

967
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 1: It's so wild. It's so wild, like yeah, yeah, yeah,

968
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree, it's just wild to me.

969
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 2: I people who know you guys won't be surprised by this.

970
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 2: I found out from Sports Center that people thought that

971
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 2: Laker car flags were like dumb, and I bought three

972
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 2: of them, you know what I mean. I was like,

973
00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 2: I wasn't gonna get one of these, but people these

974
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 2: make people. I need one everywhere. Okay, So for Thursday,

975
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 2: we are reading the Shaq and Kobe Lakers, the Tim

976
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 2: Duncan Spurs, which I'm very excited for his right up

977
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 2: on that because I hated those me.

978
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 3: Too, me too. I needn like how they played, you

979
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. It wasn't just like it was born.

980
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 2: And then we're reading uh, then we're reading the Lebron

981
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 2: chapter the King Dynasty, which is.

982
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: The I want to Yeah, I wonder how they're gonna

983
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 1: he's gonna frame that I want to chapter not.

984
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 2: Based on a particular team, but based on right. Yeah,

985
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,760
Speaker 2: very very interesting. So we're reading those street chapters for Thursday.

986
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 3: That's you know what, let's let's let's let's just do

987
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 3: Shaq and Kobe and Tim because I think you goes

988
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 3: to intertwined and and then and then King Steph and

989
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 3: then the conclusion because King and Steph intertwined. You feel me, Okay,

990
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 3: great costs step.

991
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 2: So we'll do. Okay, So next two chapters for Thursday.

992
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,800
Speaker 2: Uh us all our time, I uh, We've continue to

993
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 2: get messages from people who are telling us that they

994
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:07,720
Speaker 2: say bye along with us at the end of the episode.

995
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:08,399
Speaker 2: I don't know why.

996
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 3: I love it. That's fire.

997
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 2: It's like my favorite feedback we've ever gotten on the podcast.

998
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 3: I love it. I love that ship.

999
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 2: All right, let's do this episode only that. I'm gonna

1000
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 2: count us. I'm going to count three, and we'll all

1001
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 2: we'll all say with the with the listeners, we'll all

1002
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 2: say it one, two, three, bye bye.