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Speaker 1: Wow, Yeah, everybody, It's Tuesday, January sixth, twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast where the machine

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Speaker 1: keeps grinding and so do we.

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Speaker 2: It's me and your man.

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Speaker 1: Named g Marcus Grand joined by Michael f. Florio and

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Speaker 1: Lakwan Jones.

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Speaker 2: Happy New Year. Have we have we done a show

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Speaker 2: since the calendar tuned? No?

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Speaker 3: Actually we did it on New Year's Eve.

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Speaker 2: New Year's Eve, those was our last year. So Happy

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Speaker 2: New Year, gentlemen.

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Speaker 3: Happy New Year, Happy twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to twenty twenties, twenty twenty six. Like that's one

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Speaker 1: of those years that just sounds like futuristic, right, like

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Speaker 1: way better.

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Speaker 2: Don't like it.

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Speaker 1: What's life gonna be like in twenty twenty six? And

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Speaker 1: it turns out like it's it's kind of crappy.

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Speaker 4: There's actually a movie that we just surpassed twenty twenty five?

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Speaker 3: Is it Back to the Future? I want to say,

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: It's maybe time cop, I don't know, it's one of

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Speaker 4: those time travels.

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Speaker 1: Say it couldn't have been moving back to the future

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Speaker 1: because like back to the Future takes place in nineteen

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Speaker 1: eighty five.

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Speaker 4: Man, But then when he goes to the future. That

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Speaker 4: might have been two right, yeah, future.

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Speaker 1: It was like the future two have Remember what the

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Speaker 1: year he goes to I don't know, maybe it was

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: No, either way, we surre pat total recall. Nah, I

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Speaker 3: don't know.

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Speaker 5: You guys want to feel old. We're closer to twenty

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Speaker 5: fifty than two thousand. Damn sheesh, I remember eight thousand, Like, I.

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Speaker 3: Don't like this.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: The thing that'll make you really feel old if you

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Speaker 1: go turn on like an oldies radio station and you

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Speaker 1: hear like California Love.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 3: For me, it was here in fifty I was like.

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Speaker 2: What around the oldies now? I was flipping just.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't usually listen to radio in the car.

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Speaker 1: I'm usually streaming something. But I turned on the radio,

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Speaker 1: I flipped. I heard California Love and I'm like, what

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Speaker 1: is this all?

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Speaker 3: And then I.

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Speaker 1: Realized that, like, I'm as far away from California Love

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Speaker 1: in the nineties, I was, you know, as far from

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Speaker 1: like sixties music like it. It's equivalent now, And I'm like, damn, yeah,

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Speaker 1: what was.

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Speaker 5: The big eye opener for me? They're using music that

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Speaker 5: I grew up listening to in car commercials, yep and commercials.

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Speaker 3: Now, that's the ultimate slap in the face right there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, Black Sheep is advertising Venmo, Like, what are

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Speaker 1: we doing?

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Speaker 2: This is where we are now?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I did not mean to start the show with,

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Speaker 1: you know, with us being old.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, folks love the cold open.

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Speaker 1: Old man yelling at cloud takes. That was not how

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Speaker 1: I intended to start the show. But here we are anyway. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: the fantasy season is over. The NFL playoffs get going

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Speaker 1: this week. Feel like we can talk about that probably

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Speaker 1: a little more on Thursday show. So one does kind

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Speaker 1: of take today and kind of round up recap a

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Speaker 1: little bit of the twenty twenty five season. I'm you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe kind of start to kind of look ahead. Obviously

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Speaker 1: next few months as we get into combine, draft, free agency.

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Speaker 2: All that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 1: But plus, there a few headlines, mostly around the coaching

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Speaker 1: carousel and I guess the GM carousel, which is now

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Speaker 1: up and running and spinning officially because uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: we have what I guess it's well, what we used

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Speaker 1: to call Black Monday.

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Speaker 2: I hear the bobs. The people in our building don't

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Speaker 2: like that we use that.

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Speaker 1: Term, but you know it's shorthand everybody knows what it

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Speaker 1: means the day when coaches lose their job, So I

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Speaker 3: We got to think of a creative name.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm sacking.

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Speaker 3: That's what they say in soccer.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, we had a couple during the course of the season.

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Speaker 1: Brian Bable was let go earlier. Brian Callahan is actually

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Speaker 1: the first to get let go fairly early in the season.

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Speaker 1: But since then the Falcons have said goodbye to Raheem Morris,

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Speaker 1: which side note to that, I kind of I'm Rohie Morris.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that they dated on Sunday night, as opposed

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Speaker 1: to Jonathan Gannon, who showed up.

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Speaker 2: I've been born.

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Speaker 3: To get fired like.

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Speaker 5: That was performative, right, That was him being like, look,

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Speaker 5: how dedicated I am.

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Speaker 3: Right, it's the day after the season ending. You don't

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Speaker 1: You have to be in a five thirdy morning like you don't,

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Speaker 1: but at least, like you know, if I'm ringing morrise, like,

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Speaker 1: you didn't make me have to get up early and

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Speaker 2: Like the game was over. I'll just go back to

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Speaker 2: and then we're done with it.

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Speaker 1: The Browns have said goodbye to Kevin Stefanski. I like

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Speaker 1: to believe that Kevin Stefanski was paroled by the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 1: The Raiders have moved on from Pete Carroll. So those

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Speaker 1: are the head coaches that have been let go so far.

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Speaker 1: By the way, the Falcons also did fire general manager

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Speaker 1: Terry Fonton though, So just kind of a full house

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Speaker 1: cleaning there in Atlanta. Uhurally, and of these come as

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Speaker 1: a big surprise to you anything the guys who've been

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Speaker 3: I think of all of them.

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Speaker 5: You could argue Stefanski deserved more time there, But I

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Speaker 5: agree with you, Marcus. I think Stefanski very much so

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Speaker 5: wanted a fresh start as well. I think this is

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Speaker 5: just better for everyone involved. The one that surprised me

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Speaker 5: the most was the one that happened last with Jonathan Gannon.

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Speaker 5: And it doesn't surprise me in the results, right, he

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Speaker 5: had three years a three hundred winning percentage. His defense

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Speaker 3: He got there. There's not a whole, like the.

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Speaker 5: Cardinals have nothing to hang their hat on right now.

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Speaker 5: But all the reports leading into yesterday were that he

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I will say, I mean I was a little

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Speaker 1: surprised by Raheem Morris. I mean, I know that it

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Speaker 1: has not been good the last couple of years, but

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Speaker 1: I also thought it's only been two years. You know,

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Speaker 1: do with a hobbled kirk Cousins and that was just

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Speaker 1: a bad situation. Then last this year he started with

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Speaker 1: to kirk Cousins. You know, I don't know, but Morris

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Speaker 1: did a lot to help himself. But also he wasn't

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Speaker 1: he would get.

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Speaker 2: Another year, But.

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Speaker 1: You know, I wouldn't ride really hard to save say

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Speaker 1: Ranny Morris too at this point, So that's kind of it.

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Speaker 2: I'll say.

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Speaker 1: The Raiders thing sort of it surprised me sort of

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Speaker 1: how it happened, like I didn't think they would just

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Speaker 1: straight up fire Pete Carroll. I just thought they would

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Speaker 1: on the under, but let him come out and say,

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Speaker 1: hey guys, I think I'm just gonna go back to retirement,

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Speaker 1: right Like I thought they would let him sort of

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Speaker 3: That's the last we see if Pete coaching, though, right yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm about to say this is it.

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Speaker 2: I think so.

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Speaker 4: I think he was there to build the culture, well,

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Speaker 3: But uh yeah, I.

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Speaker 4: Think him getting Max Crosby to crash out that might

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Speaker 4: have been the tipping gap right there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he can go back to teaching at USC because

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Speaker 1: that's what he was doing before or the Raiders hired him.

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Speaker 1: He was, uh yeah, you've gotten so much better at that.

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Speaker 2: He was.

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Speaker 1: He was teaching a course called the Game is Life

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Speaker 1: through the Marshall School of.

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Speaker 2: Business at the at SC. So maybe he can.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure they would go back allow him to go

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Speaker 1: back to that if if that's what he wanted to do, or.

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Speaker 3: Just chill, bro just chill.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that dude does not know how to chill, man, like.

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Speaker 3: Take your money, going to beach like and retire.

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Speaker 1: Bro, Yeah, like a gum is scared to see that

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Speaker 1: dude coming. He does not know how to chill.

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Speaker 5: Get a media job where you're you're talking on Sundays

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Speaker 5: and that's it.

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Speaker 3: Something like that cover Seahawks game.

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Speaker 5: I don't know, but give yourself a break. You've done

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Speaker 5: this your whole life. Literally, it's like all he knows

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Speaker 2: It's all kind of all he knows.

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Speaker 1: Look on when you look at all these openings here

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Speaker 1: right Atlanta, Cleveland, Arizona, Vegas. We'll throw in the Giants

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Speaker 1: and the Titans as well. Which one do you feel

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Speaker 1: like has the most potential.

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Speaker 4: Most potential obviously the Falcons man, because you still have

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Speaker 4: Kyle Pitts hopefully he returned, Bijean Drake London, like you

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Speaker 4: still have an offense, and like Michael Pennix, I think

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Speaker 4: we're kind of like on the fence with him. Yet

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Speaker 4: we really don't know, like we don't we haven't seen enough.

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Speaker 4: But when you look at like guys like Raheem Morris,

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Speaker 4: openings that may open up in the future, maybe the Dolphins,

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Speaker 4: think obviously that Falcons job is going to be one

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Speaker 4: of the things that everybody's going to be looking at

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Speaker 4: because they have like the core foundation of a top

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Speaker 4: offense in my opinion, So I think any head coach

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Speaker 4: Get the ball to your best player's hands. You got

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Speaker 4: three options. Yeah, So I really do think that the

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Speaker 4: Falcons job being open now, but possibly Matt Ryan in

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Speaker 4: the front office making decisions as well. He's getting interviewed

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Speaker 4: this week. So I do think at the end of

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Speaker 4: the day, you have a good team that you're walking into.

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Speaker 4: Whoever that question mark coach is coming in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was kind of my first thought too. It's

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Speaker 1: probably the Falcons.

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Speaker 3: I actually disagree.

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Speaker 2: Who do you think? Who do you think?

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Speaker 5: Because the Falcons don't have their first they don't have

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Speaker 5: a lot of cap I think the Titans are the

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Speaker 5: best opening because you have cam Ward who is a

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Speaker 5: proven I think he showed this year that he could

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Speaker 5: play they have the most cast space in the NFL

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Speaker 5: this offseason, and they have eight picks in this draft.

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Speaker 5: I also think low key the Raiders because they have

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Speaker 3: Have a lot of talent on that defensive.

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Speaker 2: They have a lot of talent on the defense.

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Speaker 2: Although he kind of was not super certain.

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Speaker 1: Although I don't know if you saw the comments a

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Speaker 3: I saw someone was like, do you use a chat GPT?

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Speaker 2: To that state, Like sir what And this guy still.

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Speaker 4: Has a job after letting Saquon walk Go win a

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Speaker 1: Not just win a super Bowl, but win a Super

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Speaker 5: Like bro, what isy let the wrong person leave the building?

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Speaker 5: In my opinion, like Table's the one who picked out Dart,

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Speaker 4: And the thing is Dart is already saying like this

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Speaker 3: Dart is not changing.

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Speaker 4: So whatever coach is walking in there, if he comes

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Speaker 3: That's just how I look at it. Dark Did you

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of a coach who could match

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Speaker 2: Who can match Jackson's Him?

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Speaker 3: And Dan Campbell would walls would not be safe?

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Speaker 1: Oh Dan campb I mean, obviously Dan Campbell's not going anywhere, but.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, Dan Campbell could match that energy.

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Speaker 1: That would be I don't know, would be a little

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I imagine walking into that room at six am

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Speaker 3: Screaming head button each other's heads.

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Speaker 3: But is insane.

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Speaker 1: That group, that trio would make a pot of espresso nervous, Like,

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Speaker 2: Honest think that that.

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't work because they would literally wear out everybody else.

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Speaker 2: In the building. You'd be like, all right, man, Malik Nighbors.

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Speaker 3: Would be like, Yo, I need someone else here, man.

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Speaker 2: Trade trade ye for me.

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Speaker 1: Hey, coach, that is a couple of coaches that are staying.

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Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel has it looks like he has escaped being fired.

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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: Zach Taylor and the player personnel director Duke Tobin are

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you this, que.

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Speaker 1: Because Zach Taylor is one of the Sean McVay guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we ain't too proud about you might have to

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Speaker 3: remove him from the.

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Speaker 2: Tree hashtag good at his job.

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Speaker 3: He can make it look good.

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Speaker 4: Put it like that, like if you have Joe Burrow,

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Speaker 4: him saying he's good. It's like, okay, Now we're wrapping

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Speaker 4: Like I do feel like the Bengals get right there

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Speaker 4: but it's more so of keeping your guys together. We

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Speaker 4: see like Joe Burrow, he's not having fun anymore. I

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Speaker 4: can't say that's not because of Zach Taylor or what's

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Speaker 4: that keep this band together? And like you pay all

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Speaker 4: It's like what changes need to happen? Like you know

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Speaker 3: They can't get to the playoffs. They can't get to

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Speaker 3: look at this where it's like where do we need change?

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean? I actually think the GM

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the negotiating contracts, I mean, all's like all the

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Speaker 5: You got to pay your guys, but you don't if

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Speaker 5: you go all in on two receivers and a quarterback,

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Speaker 5: you don't have to pay Mike Oseeki as well.

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Speaker 2: You know, like.

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Speaker 5: Alan Flowers, our producer of Fantasy Live, is a huge

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Speaker 5: Bengals fan, and he literally went year by year one

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Speaker 5: time and pointed out that, like, they haven't outside of

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Speaker 3: A first round pick in like years years.

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Speaker 2: It's been a while that they've done that.

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Speaker 1: with Joe Burrow, you know, and it is it's they've

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Speaker 2: The league would love to have and would pay.

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Speaker 1: But we were talking about a defense that at one

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, so.

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Speaker 3: Regular bad is still bad. Is still bad.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's not as bad as historically bad, but

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Speaker 1: it's still not good. And that's kind of where they

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Speaker 1: are right now. The offensive line doesn't inspire any confidence.

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Speaker 1: There's just very little about this team right now that

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Speaker 2: The division is not you know.

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Speaker 3: It might be the worst of football outside of the

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Speaker 3: NFC South.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. The Steelers just squeak into the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: The Ravens just you know, vomited on their shoes repeatedly

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Speaker 2: The Browns sort of the Browns, you know, there's nobody.

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Speaker 1: It's not like you're looking around and this is like,

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Speaker 1: You know, It's just it's not like that, like you

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Speaker 5: Mike Bengals take is they made the Super Bowl that

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Speaker 5: And I've been saying it for a while, why doesn't

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Speaker 5: finally going to get his chance.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see, you know.

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Speaker 1: Also, you know, then you have to ask the question,

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Speaker 1: I know you and I were talking Floorya before the show.

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Speaker 1: the Commanders have said goodbye to offensive coordinator Cliff Kingsbury.

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Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of social media posts of him

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Speaker 2: Of the Cardinals.

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Speaker 3: This dope house.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of a dope house, you know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he had something similar in the

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Speaker 2: But wherever he's going to be, he's going to be

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I feel like it was hard to pin this on

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, I'm not saying that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I'll fully admit, like I didn't expect the

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Speaker 3: So he is one.

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Speaker 5: Because the expectation is that Joe Brady will not be

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I just that one sort of shocked me because I

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Speaker 2: He had a lot of injuries.

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Speaker 1: You know, they traded Brian Robinson, Austin Eckler gets hurt,

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Speaker 5: I think the perspective of Kingsbury has changed as the

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Speaker 5: perception of Kyler Murray has changed.

446
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Speaker 2: Maybe that's interesting, Huh.

447
00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:07,880
Speaker 3: Maybe reunite. Let's get toxic in Vegas.

448
00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:11,240
Speaker 1: You know what, Kyler and Cliff reunite in Vegas?

449
00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,920
Speaker 5: Could it be maybe Kyler seems like he's going to

450
00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:19,120
Speaker 5: play for the Jets next year?

451
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Speaker 1: Ew, God, that's the case. We can cross Kyler off

452
00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,160
Speaker 1: the he's on the do not draft list. If that's

453
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Speaker 1: if that's really what's going to happen next year I

454
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Speaker 1: take with Greaker to come back. We're gonna dive into

455
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Speaker 1: some of the twenty twenty five rookies. Are thoughts on

456
00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:37,880
Speaker 1: what they did this past year and what we hope

457
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Speaker 1: to see from them next year.

458
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Speaker 2: That's coming up next on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast.

459
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Speaker 1: So figure we go back and look at this rookie class.

460
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Speaker 1: It came in with big expectations, especially at the running

461
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Speaker 1: back position. And I'm not gonna go over all the rookies.

462
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Speaker 1: You know, some guys, you know, I feel like a

463
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Speaker 1: Terron McMillan. We all can kind of like, yeah, he

464
00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,160
Speaker 1: had a good rookie season. He's the number one wide

465
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:04,119
Speaker 1: receiver in Carolina.

466
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:04,880
Speaker 2: Whatever.

467
00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:09,159
Speaker 1: I'm picking guys that are that either maybe underperformed or

468
00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,959
Speaker 1: are a kind of tricky situations to get your thoughts

469
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Speaker 1: on their past year and your expectations for their upcoming years. So, Florida,

470
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Speaker 1: I'll start with you on Ashton Genty, your feelings on

471
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Speaker 1: what he did and can it get better next year.

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Speaker 5: I think Ashton Genty had a pretty good rookie season

473
00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 5: all things considered. Right, Like, he's running behind maybe the

474
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Speaker 5: worst offensive line in football. His quarterback at the end

475
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 5: of the year was in and out of the lineup.

476
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Speaker 5: They traded their number one wide receiver, their number all

477
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Speaker 5: pro tight end, wasn't out there for much of the games,

478
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Speaker 5: and he's still set their rookie rushing record. And I know,

479
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:52,480
Speaker 5: especially at the end of the year, it was very

480
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,440
Speaker 5: up and down, right like he either had a big

481
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 5: game or he was giving you, like very little fantasy points.

482
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Speaker 5: But given what I was saying last segment, with the

483
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Speaker 5: Raiders having the second most cap and the most picks

484
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,280
Speaker 5: and the number one pick, it's going to be a.

485
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Speaker 3: New play caller.

486
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Speaker 5: A lot is going to be different in Vegas. And

487
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 5: they don't even have to have like a Patriots like jump.

488
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,720
Speaker 5: They just got to get competent, right like not be

489
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Speaker 5: the worst O line and worst offense in.

490
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Speaker 3: Football being the Panthers. Yeah, I think Ashton gents can

491
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 3: return first round value.

492
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like I think part of obviously, part

493
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Speaker 1: of Pete Carroll getting let go means that his son,

494
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,960
Speaker 1: who was the offensive line coach, not going to be

495
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 1: there as well next year. One thing I did like

496
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Speaker 1: is them including him more in the passing game as

497
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Speaker 1: the season went along. I think that was sort of

498
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 1: that was sort of out of necessity, right, because they

499
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,239
Speaker 1: couldn't open holes to run them with the football, but

500
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Speaker 1: they had to get the ball in his hands some

501
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 1: kind of way. So seventy three targets, fifty five receptions.

502
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Speaker 1: I guess my question to you though about that LQ

503
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Speaker 1: is is this really a thing they're going to continue

504
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Speaker 1: or is this sort of like the Najee Harris, you know,

505
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 1: hundred target rookie season thing.

506
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Speaker 4: M I think it's going to depend on who they

507
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 4: have at quarterback, like that can just change the whole

508
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 4: dynamic of it. You might not get a check down

509
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 4: quarterback in there. You might got a gun slinger that

510
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 4: wants to be aggressive downfield. I don't think that he

511
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 4: completely fades away from the passing game. But giving the situation,

512
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 4: which I like to use situational targets, there was nobody

513
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 4: else there that they could have passed the ball to.

514
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 4: So in order to get any type of games, any

515
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,360
Speaker 4: positive yardage, they had to do something. So I don't

516
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Speaker 4: think that we get that same sample size that we

517
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Speaker 4: got this season going into next year. And it all

518
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 4: really depends at that quarterback position if they get that

519
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 4: old line intact, because if he has another season behind

520
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,919
Speaker 4: this same quality of an O line, even if they

521
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 4: put new pieces, their new bodies there, but they're still

522
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Speaker 4: playing at the same level. Then it's kind of like,

523
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Speaker 4: what are we doing here? It's just another year. Have

524
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 4: we got to put under the rug and be like, hey,

525
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 4: we're not wrong, we're just early.

526
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Speaker 1: So I guess the answer to your question is, let's

527
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Speaker 1: all start studying tape of Fernando Mendoza yep, and seeing

528
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 1: how much he checks the ball.

529
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Speaker 5: Down there you go fun young core though, Mendoza Gentien

530
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 5: Bauers like they might not have much, but that that

531
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Speaker 5: trio would be a lot of fun.

532
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Speaker 4: I think they should get a veteran though, Like this

533
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:16,959
Speaker 4: is one of the situations where I'm like, all right,

534
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,119
Speaker 4: this is a good cycle.

535
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Speaker 6: The veterans like Kyler Mendoza, Kyler Fields, Mac Jones, Like

536
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Speaker 6: there's some names out there, Like I do feel like

537
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Speaker 6: I think you bring one of those to be a

538
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Speaker 6: QB two.

539
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Speaker 2: But I can't. I can't do justin Fields again, Yo.

540
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Speaker 3: They're not franchise guys. This is your chance, you know,

541
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Speaker 3: I hear that.

542
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Speaker 4: But then it's like you are basically resetting the clock,

543
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,640
Speaker 4: where so many different holes that are high priority rather

544
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:49,119
Speaker 4: than your quarterback, which you still have Marcus's doppelganger and

545
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,919
Speaker 4: Gino Smith who deleted all Raiders from his bio on

546
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 4: Instagram and pictures, so it's kind of curtains I think

547
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 4: there as well.

548
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Speaker 3: But who knows.

549
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Speaker 2: We'll see yeah, yeah, I mean I don't know. I'll

550
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:03,239
Speaker 2: say this.

551
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Speaker 1: I think I'm done with you justin fields thing, like

552
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 1: it's just we've seen it now.

553
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 3: It's good for fantasy, not for real life. Anthony Richardson,

554
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 3: he could be out there.

555
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,239
Speaker 1: Dude, if you're the Raiders, do you really want to

556
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 1: have to bring I mean, like you are not in

557
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 1: a position as an organization to develop Anthony Richardson.

558
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Speaker 4: There's just not what if it's Cliff, If it's Cliff

559
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Speaker 4: Kingsbury over there, like who knows who the quarterback and

560
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Speaker 4: coach will be.

561
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Speaker 5: I still think you want the five years on a

562
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Speaker 5: rookie deal to and you want your own guy, you know, But.

563
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Speaker 3: It's the Raiders. What if they screw this up?

564
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Speaker 5: But I think if you're the Raiders, you're looking at

565
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Speaker 5: it like we have a bunch of cap and a

566
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Speaker 5: bunch of picks, Like we get that quarterback at one

567
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Speaker 5: and then we use every other.

568
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Speaker 4: Ash to screw that. Use the first five picks on

569
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Speaker 4: your OH line. You have a generational running back and

570
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 4: you have a generational tight end. I think if you

571
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Speaker 4: get a veteran there, you can still be somewhat competitive

572
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 4: in a vision that looks weak right now with the

573
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 4: Chiefs and Chargers constantly shooting theirself on the foot.

574
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Speaker 3: But I wouldn't say that division is weak. It's weak.

575
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 3: It's weaker.

576
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 5: It's weaker, But I'm not counting out the Chiefs. The

577
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 5: Chargers will have their old line back next year.

578
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: The Broncos are great defensively, and they are good and

579
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 1: they're good enough on offense.

580
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Speaker 4: It's weaker. There's still an opening to be in that

581
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Speaker 4: second third spot.

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Speaker 1: If you are the Raiders and that is your focus.

583
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,400
Speaker 1: I don't know that you take alignment at number one.

584
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,400
Speaker 1: I think that's the when you trade out, you see

585
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 1: what you can get and you build that way.

586
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

587
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Speaker 1: But I mean the thing with bringing Anthony Richardson is

588
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:42,199
Speaker 1: you have to be committed to giving him reps and

589
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to live with whatever the result is

590
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 1: going to be. I am curious whether or not Tom

591
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 1: Brady is interested in giving Anthony Richardson reps and giving

592
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Speaker 1: him that runway to develop.

593
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Speaker 3: This is huge. This is huge. Yeah, Richardson only is

594
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Speaker 3: one may.

595
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Speaker 5: Maybe if you pick up the fifth year, it's two years, right,

596
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 5: Like I think a team like the Raiders you want

597
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 5: as long as especially a new coach and everything coming in, Like,

598
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 5: I think you want that long runway, being like we

599
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 5: got five years with the Heisman winning quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I you know, I don't know what

601
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson's future is at this point because you know,

602
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: he's missed so much time with injury.

603
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 3: The Jets honestly make a lot of sense. I didn't

604
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,120
Speaker 3: want to say it, but then it's like it's there.

605
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 4: So it's like, yeah, the Jets, whoever Cliff goes makes sense.

606
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 2: Though.

607
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: I do think that, yeah, yeah, he's just Richardson's in

608
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 1: a really tough spot.

609
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 2: Some of it it was his own making. Some of

610
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 2: it not right.

611
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 1: I mean, the way the Colts just sort of bungled

612
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: his development has not helped. But also he just hasn't

613
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,719
Speaker 1: stayed healthy. Like I look, the thing this year with

614
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 1: the the Resistance band that was just a freak bad

615
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: luck injury, but you know, him tapping out after a

616
00:27:58,119 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: run and being like, hey, I'm tired, I need to

617
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: take it like stuff like that just doesn't help you.

618
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Speaker 5: Pretty sure, he still has more reps in college than

619
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Speaker 5: in the NFL and he barely played in college.

620
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's probably true. That's true.

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Speaker 1: Next one, Trevion Henderson, and I'm gonna obviously start with you, Florio,

622
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Speaker 1: because you were the big Travion Henderson stand here. We

623
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 1: saw later in the season him start to get more run,

624
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: especially when Remondre Stevenson was hurt midway.

625
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 2: Through the season.

626
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,919
Speaker 1: But when Stevenson came back, he was still getting touches,

627
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: he was still getting targets. He's still a part of

628
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: the offense. The other part of that is he's still

629
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Speaker 1: under contract for a number of years. I think through

630
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight, I believe it is. There's still a

631
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: few more years left on his deal. Are we gonna

632
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: be doing this dance again with Travion next season where

633
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: he's just not getting the number of snaps we would

634
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: like because they still want to get Rimandre involved.

635
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 5: I think we see Travion takeover at a height even

636
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 5: more than because down the stretch outside of the game

637
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 5: where Trevion returned from concussion. What was that week seventeen,

638
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 5: I want to say outside of that, later in the season,

639
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 5: Travion was being used over Stevenson.

640
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 3: But like I know, it was a disappointing year for Travion.

641
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 5: He had eleven one hundred scrimmage yards and double digit touchdowns.

642
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 3: Like, sign me up if that's a.

643
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 5: Bad year, you know, But I think he showed as

644
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 5: he got more opportunity that he is super explosive, super dynamic.

645
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 5: And what I'm going to be keeping a close eye

646
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 5: on is I think the Patriots are going to set

647
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 5: him free in the playoffs. Like I don't think Stevenson

648
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 5: fully goes away, But I think the Patriots were pretty

649
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 5: it was like it was a conscious effort to not

650
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 5: overwork Travion, especially early in the year, and he had

651
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 5: comments himself where he was like, man, the NFL season

652
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 5: is a grind. It's so different from the college season.

653
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 5: Like I've learned so much already this year. So I

654
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 5: do think they were like, hey, we have another back

655
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 5: we trust here, Like we don't need to put it

656
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 5: all on your plate in one year. And I don't

657
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 5: think Stevenson goes away fully next year either, Like a

658
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 5: sixty to forty split might be possible, but I would

659
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 5: be shocked if Travion is not on the.

660
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 3: Heavy side of that.

661
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: Platin does just feel like another Maybe it's a little extreme,

662
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: look like a Bejeon Tyler Algiers situation where it's like

663
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: we just never get we never get maximum Travion.

664
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Speaker 3: Gibbson MALTI I think is uh Kyron and Blake koram

665
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 3: let's go.

666
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

667
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 3: I think I hate that you stuttered on that. Well.

668
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I just I feel like, I mean, I

669
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: feel like it's sort of a different situation, right because

670
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 1: with with Kirn and Korum, which is kind of a

671
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: you know, seems like a comedy duo. I think with

672
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: those guys one, you're talking about Blake Korum being kind

673
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: of a what this year two for Blake Korum, you know,

674
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: And I think he's sort of ascending, like Remandra is

675
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: on the decline, right, Like I think he peaked a

676
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. I think, you know, his usage

677
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: is going to start to decline a little bit. He's

678
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: gonna be kind of a nuisance. Maybe the Gibbs Monty

679
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: thing is a little more accurate. I'm not sure that

680
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: was why I hesitated on on on the Rams guys.

681
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 2: It wasn't because of you know, because I feel like

682
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 2: they were just I think it was a different situation.

683
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: I'm trying to compliment your team, man, why are you

684
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: trying to jump in the eye.

685
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 3: I want to hear it like I'm trying.

686
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 2: To say nice things about your team.

687
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: Anyway, I don't think you talk about a Mecca Buka

688
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: then oh great, because he started hot, right, I mean,

689
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: he had what two touchdown catches in Week one last

690
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 1: year and after the first month it was like, whoa,

691
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: He's the offensive rookie of the year. And then like

692
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: we really didn't hear much from him for like six weeks.

693
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: Down the stretch, especially as guys got healthy, we heard

694
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: less from Abuka, right, and so we know going into

695
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: next year, what Mike Evan's.

696
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 2: Probably gonna be back?

697
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: Uh, you know, I don't know what you know, what

698
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: you expect from Chris Godwin. But even Jalen mcmill down

699
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 1: the stretch was getting involved in the passing game.

700
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 2: I mean, LQ, if you have.

701
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 1: Your compliment of receivers, even if it's not let's just

702
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: say it's just McMillan and Evans say is there still

703
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: enough room for Abuka to be a dude in that offense.

704
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 4: What this ultimately comes down to, like, can Baker snap

705
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 4: out of it? Like can we get the Baker Mayfield

706
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 4: that we saw last year just a small ounce of that?

707
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 4: Like I don't think it was a real issue with

708
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 4: the Mecca Buka hisself, but there is many feet mouse

709
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 4: to feed in that offense.

710
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 3: Like j Max, Jaylen mcmallan.

711
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 4: I like him, I love him. I love his versatility.

712
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 4: We can see that he can ball when given opportunity

713
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 4: and healthy, So he's going to be a factor. If

714
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 4: Mike Evans does not ride off into sunset just because

715
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 4: he didn't get a thousand yards this season and he

716
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 4: returns next season, I'll be highly disappointed.

717
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 2: Man.

718
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 4: Just write it off. You're good, man, You're good in

719
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame books. We don't need no more

720
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 4: of your services.

721
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 3: Let's get the.

722
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 4: Young guys involved, because I would love to see an

723
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 4: offense with Chris Godin Mecca to Buca and Jalen McMillan

724
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 4: or whoever else they bring in, because I do think

725
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 4: that we have to factor in if Baker's not gonna

726
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 4: be playing at the top quality level, that we've seen

727
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 4: him play. Then Meccabuka just becomes another flex option. He

728
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 4: just becomes a guy that has these high weeks and

729
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 4: then low weeks, and it'll be a complete roller coaster.

730
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 4: Like I don't see him going in the first six

731
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 4: rounds like he did this past draft, so I think

732
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 4: he kind of falls a little bit later even if

733
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,239
Speaker 4: we get that notion like Okay, Mike Evans is out

734
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 4: of the way, because there's still a lot to be

735
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 4: proven on this offense to bounce back, and that old

736
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 4: line needs to be intact as well.

737
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, Evans is a free agent this year. God

738
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: Win under contract through twenty twenty eight.

739
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 4: They haven't out next year though. I think they have

740
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 4: an outlet next year because all his money was basically

741
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 4: was on the back end.

742
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 3: Of his contract. That's why this year they didn't care

743
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 3: if he played. I don't know about you, guys. I

744
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 3: feel like Evans won't play anywhere but Tampa.

745
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

746
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: I feel like he's he's a Buck for life. It's

747
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: just like he's one of those guys. It's gonna feel

748
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: weird to see him in a different uniform.

749
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 5: If I'm the Bucks, I want it. Yeah, I know

750
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 5: for fantasy. We rather like, if you want a Pukah,

751
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 5: you want Evans gone. But if I'm the Bucks, I

752
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 5: want Evans there as long as you like, he was

753
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 5: still their go to option.

754
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, you saw that immediately when he came

755
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: back right like he's back down there somewhere like we're gonna.

756
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 2: Throw it up. Yeah.

757
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 1: He seems like one of those guys who's like, I'm

758
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: gonna start and end my career here in Tampa.

759
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,240
Speaker 2: Uh. It just makes sense. It fully fits that way.

760
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,879
Speaker 3: He doesn't have to go to the Tampa the Tennessee, he.

761
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:38,439
Speaker 1: Doesn't have to go to the rest home receivers, doesn't

762
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: have to take the the DeAndre Hopkins circuit at the

763
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 1: end of his career.

764
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 2: Wherever he's gonna go.

765
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 3: Man, did we see the last of d hop You

766
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:47,919
Speaker 3: think yeah?

767
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 2: I think so.

768
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I forgot he was a raven.

769
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 4: That's how it's kind of like the consensus thought of, oh,

770
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 4: DeAndre Hopkins is playing football.

771
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 3: I forgot about that. Well.

772
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 1: It's funny because early in the season, I feel like

773
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 1: he had a couple of touchdowns early in the year,

774
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: and it was like one of those things where you

775
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: would see the fantasy totally.

776
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 2: You'd be like, all right, well maybe maybe there's something there.

777
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: And you go look and you realize that he played

778
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 1: like ten percent of the snaps and it just so

779
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 1: happened that the few times he was on the field

780
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: day threw it to him. You're like, yeah, yeah, this

781
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: is not sustainable.

782
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 5: He's not a Hall of Famer, right, No, he could

783
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 5: have been. He could he had the talent, could have been.

784
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 5: Hall of Famers should be the category.

785
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 1: I was having the conversation with somebody the other day

786
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: and and they came up with a really good metric

787
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 1: for guys. I actually I had to write it down,

788
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: so I thought it was actually great. Where you are

789
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 1: from like lowest to highest, Right, you are like a bobblehead,

790
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 1: you know, team giveaway sort of guy, right, Like, you

791
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: were really good for your team, you were a fan favorite.

792
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: We're gonna, you know, do a giveaway for you, like

793
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: a special T shirt or bobblehead or whatever.

794
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 2: Right, So that's one.

795
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 1: Next is you're a ring of honor for your respective team.

796
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 2: You know, so you were like good for a.

797
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: Long time, maybe you help them win a championship, whatever,

798
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: you're a ring of honor guy.

799
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 2: Then there's the Hall of.

800
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: Very Good where it's like, okay, we're talking about you,

801
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 1: maybe that you get.

802
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 2: To Canton whatever.

803
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,240
Speaker 1: And then obviously Hall of Famer being the top level

804
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: of that, Dedre Hopkins, Hall of Very Good, Ring of Honor,

805
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: He's above Bobblehead level.

806
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 5: There's a category of guys like LQ was saying, like,

807
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 5: like I think O'Dell goes in that category of like

808
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 5: you were a Hall of Fame talent, but you, for

809
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 5: whatever reason, you didn't put up the injuries.

810
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 3: The longevity wasn't there, stuff like that.

811
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 4: Bro Cleveland, that's still the deal Cleveland right there.

812
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 3: As soon as he got shipped there, it was over.

813
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. Again, I guess it was out of his control,

814
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 2: right like that part.

815
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 3: Got paid and got shipped.

816
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 5: But Odell at peak is still one of the best

817
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 5: I think I've ever seen.

818
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, but Odell Sad is probably the worst football player ever.

819
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 1: I feel like with with Nuke, if his career had

820
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 1: ended after the twenty twenty season. Right that first year

821
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: in Arizona, he had fourteen hundred yards like he was

822
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 1: coming off a string of was it six thousand yard seasons?

823
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: He over a thousand yards six times and seven seasons

824
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: he was like a double digit touchdown guy, Like I

825
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,919
Speaker 1: think if you cut it off there, we're like, oh yeah,

826
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: this probably is the Hall of Fame guy. But then

827
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 1: he went through those just nondescript seasons in Arizona where

828
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 1: he was hurt a little.

829
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 2: Bit, and he went to Tennessee.

830
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: He had that one year, you know, he split the

831
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: year between his Tightens and the Chiefs and he went

832
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 1: to Baltimore. It's like the further away he got from

833
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, you're just sort of like you kind of

834
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: forgot about the greatness a little bit of DeAndre Hopkins.

835
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,959
Speaker 4: What's crazy is he was twenty eight, Like that's old.

836
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 4: Like the signs were there, like holy heck.

837
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

838
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 5: His career reminds me of AJ Greens, like at peak

839
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 5: Hall of Fame town. But then the ending is just

840
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 5: so bad.

841
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: Right well, you know, especially when AJ Green took that

842
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 1: whole year off, He's basically just.

843
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 2: Like, oh, I'm gonna practice. I think I'm gonna nah.

844
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 3: Was so frustrating.

845
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then the Bengals waiting until what like week

846
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: sixteen to finally put him on IR Like.

847
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 2: What are you doing? Man? What's happening? That was so

848
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 2: bad I.

849
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: Would take a quick break, come back and dive into

850
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: some more rookies as we dish on their twenty twenty

851
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 1: five season. That's coming up next on the NFL Fantasy

852
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: Football Podcast Last Rookie and this is I thought was

853
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: the more the most intriguing of the guys on this list,

854
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: and we can all kind of get in on here,

855
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 1: but Florio, you can start Travis Hunter because there were

856
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: so many expectations, there was so much hope. Unfortunately, he

857
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 1: suffers a torn acl just as I think we all

858
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:50,280
Speaker 1: believed he was about to take off. We really thought

859
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 1: like this is when the explosion comes. He suffers the injury,

860
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: we don't see him the rest of the year. What

861
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 1: does twenty twenty six bring for Travis Hunter?

862
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 5: You guys know, I loved Travis Hunter, Like I was

863
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 5: calling the show Hal Towny of the NFL before the.

864
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 2: Season, and which Adam Ray never failed to remind you

865
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 2: about him.

866
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I think if the Jags knew what they

867
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 7: know now coming into the season with BTJ, we would

868
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 7: have seen a different Travis Hunter right like he would

869
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 7: have been there one, they would have been using him

870
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 7: a lot more and stuff.

871
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 5: But they were like, we have a proven one in BTJ.

872
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 5: But I think everything since Travis Hunter got hurt, right,

873
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 5: we saw Parker Washington breakout, they went and traded for

874
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 5: and then signed Jacobe Myers. So now they got three

875
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,399
Speaker 5: wide receivers, right like. So my fear is, with Hunter

876
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 5: coming off of a serious knee injury, is that they

877
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 5: do at least next season. Maybe it's year three we see.

878
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 3: Him play both sides at a full time rate. Maybe never,

879
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 3: but I don't think we get that.

880
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 5: In year two, and I'm really concerned that it's gonna

881
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 5: be the offensive side that takes a hit. So as

882
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 5: much as I'm going to be rooting for Travis Hunter

883
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,280
Speaker 5: and I really like him as a talent and stuff,

884
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 5: if he's go early in drafts or even where he

885
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 5: was last summer, I won't be in.

886
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 1: Do not draft him, Do not draft him? Are you

887
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: not drafting at all? You're You're out, You're fully out.

888
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 2: Period.

889
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,879
Speaker 4: Why why even enter this circus that we already did?

890
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 4: I would say the Rams game, that's the only thing

891
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 4: on film that we've seen that he could be a

892
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,919
Speaker 4: wide receiver one. That's the only game that we seen

893
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 4: fantasy relevance that you could have trusted him as a starter.

894
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 4: Other than that, you extend Jacobe Myers. You see Parker

895
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 4: Washington becoming Trevor Lawrence. Yes, that is the first time

896
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 4: in the new year.

897
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 2: I have some good for you.

898
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 4: He is making this strong connection with these other wide receivers.

899
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 4: It's like, I don't even see him fitting into this

900
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 4: picture unless they get rid of Brian Thomas Junior, because

901
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 4: he's the odd man out.

902
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 3: You know. I just feel like, at the end of the.

903
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 4: Day, why jump into the circus come back from injury

904
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 4: knowing that he's going to play majority of the time

905
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 4: of like one side of the bawl week to week.

906
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 4: It's just the most annoying thing in fantasy right now.

907
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: But then that was my question though, was like do

908
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:02,760
Speaker 1: you trade betj That was rumored right around the trade deadline.

909
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 1: There was all this chatter that maybe they would move on.

910
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: He wasn't playing well. He obviously doesn't seem to have

911
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: a connection with Trevor Lawrence. I mean, at least Trevor

912
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: Lawrence and Travis Hunter did a commercial together, whatever that's worth.

913
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know, it wouldn't be I don't

914
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 1: think it'd be the wildest thing if we saw the Jags,

915
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: send Thomas somewhere else, get some draft picks, get some

916
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: sort of you know, assets, some capital to work with,

917
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 1: and then try to you know, then you have your three, right,

918
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: You've gotten Meyers, Washington and Hunter as your three wide receivers.

919
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 3: Hot take. I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't do it because.

920
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 2: Brian Thomas j Or. You wouldn't take Brian Thomas Junior.

921
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 4: I wouldn't trade Brian Thomas Jor. He's too talented. Like

922
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 4: we see him play this Alex Pierce role that we

923
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 4: kind of labeled him, and he plays it well when

924
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 4: they connect. I think you just kind of water that

925
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 4: flower a little bit more because at the end of

926
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 4: the day, like we saw him go off, there's evidence

927
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 4: of him going off without Trevor Lawrence. Not the great

928
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 4: match right now. You're trying to make a square.

929
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 2: Go Trevor Lawrence at this point, I know.

930
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 4: But what I'm saying is you have to figure it

931
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 4: out this offseason, like him crashing out at practice and

932
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 4: him not really just I guess, not paying attention to

933
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 4: the small details of Lian Cohen's system, Like these were

934
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 4: all reports in the summer that we were hearing going

935
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 4: into the season and then showed and reflect on the field.

936
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 4: So I think you take this time in the playoffs

937
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 4: just draw something up. Let him have a Brian Thomas

938
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 4: junior game, you know, Like I think the talent is there,

939
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 4: it's just like the situation and connection in chemistry is

940
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 4: just lacking right now.

941
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:37,720
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm losing the playoffs to figure

942
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: this out. No, no, not the playoffs to mess around

943
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: with it.

944
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 5: But if I do, think a lot of people are

945
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 5: going to feel how LQ feels and like I don't

946
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 5: want any part of Travis Hunter.

947
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 3: And if that's the case and he's.

948
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 5: Going in like the eleventh, twelfth round, I'll throw some

949
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,760
Speaker 5: time the eighth round, I'm not doing that's free.

950
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 4: If it's free, it's for me, I ain't. He'll be

951
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 4: your wide receiver fo or five. If he's living in

952
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 4: the twelfth round, like, yeah, I'm with that. But if

953
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 4: it's like the eighth round, ninth round, I'm not doing it.

954
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 4: But you know, the fantasy streets are going to bring

955
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 4: him from the grave and put him in front of

956
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 4: everybody's face.

957
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 3: I think a lot of.

958
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 5: People are gonna feel the way you feel and be

959
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 5: like I don't want any part.

960
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 3: Of him, as they should.

961
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: I think the Jacobe Meyers acquisition muddied the waters a lot, right,

962
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 1: because then all of a sudden you're like, oh, you

963
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 1: have a guy who can be your wide receiver.

964
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 4: One, let's not figure about Breton Strange in this. Like,

965
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 4: I think we're kind of overlooking his role as well,

966
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 4: because he's been heating up as well. Like when he

967
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,399
Speaker 4: came back from injury, he immediately found the end zone.

968
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 4: He immediately found the end zone and immediately just reconnected

969
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,800
Speaker 4: that chemistry with Trevor. So it's like, I do think

970
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 4: there's a lot of mouse to feed in this offense.

971
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 1: I feel like the Strange thing was more a product

972
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: of circumstance than any sort of like they believe in

973
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: Britain's Strange.

974
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 3: Nah, that boy could ball.

975
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that, but there's a lot of he

976
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 1: was like in ball. I mean, you know that never

977
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 1: really Brian Thomas, right, Brian Thomas and Ball. But here

978
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: we are talking about you. We traded him away because

979
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 1: you know, like that didn't.

980
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 2: Always work out. So you know, we'll see that he

981
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 2: hates his friends.

982
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 3: That's what it is. Teammates.

983
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 1: Maybe, maybe, maybe Trevor Lawrence should let somebody do some

984
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: squat him in a bar or something.

985
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 4: Like, oh my god, that's the most random thing I've

986
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 4: seen on the timeline, Like seriously, just random.

987
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 3: You just let somebody just squat you in the bar.

988
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 5: Like what as someone who has to their favorite team

989
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 5: has to face the Jaguars this weekend, the vibes are

990
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 5: so high and do ball right now that it concerns me.

991
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 3: He got he got that grill in his mouth now

992
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 3: he fills concerns me.

993
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 5: Literally that picture I saw and I was like, oh no,

994
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 5: Trevor is.

995
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 3: A community guy. He's a community guy.

996
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 2: He behind him in spirit.

997
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,959
Speaker 1: At least he's sort of replacing Blake Bortles, right, because

998
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 1: Bortles was very much on the scene in Jacksonville, you

999
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: know when he played down there, right, and like I'm

1000
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: not saying you know that statistically or whatever style of play,

1001
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 1: but at least in terms of just the spirits of

1002
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 1: his innocence and everything, it's kind of mortals ish Steve.

1003
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 5: Why should point out that he doesn't like this small

1004
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 5: market team thing that they're going with because they are

1005
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 5: also London's team, and London would be like the second

1006
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 5: biggest market in.

1007
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: But also small market team doesn't play in football.

1008
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 2: It just doesn't.

1009
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,760
Speaker 5: This is not Also, they're a bigger market than Buffalo,

1010
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 5: so they can't use that this week.

1011
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: Like I just, you know, I get what Liam Cohen's

1012
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 1: trying to do there, but it just doesn't play in

1013
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: the NFL, right, you're not because you got revenue sharing

1014
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 1: and everybody gets you know, a big chunk of the money,

1015
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: and like there's just so many things. This is not

1016
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 1: like baseball where you know, you're the Kansas City Royals

1017
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: and you're you're crying poor or it just doesn't work.

1018
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 2: I'm good.

1019
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 3: I'm glad Patrick Mahomes owns them.

1020
00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 2: He does.

1021
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: He literally literally it literally owns them, you know. So yeah,

1022
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 1: I see what he's trying to do. I just I

1023
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:07,720
Speaker 1: sort of shrugged it off, like I didn't think actually

1024
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: when I first heard it, I was like, oh, he

1025
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: he's not being serious like he's but I.

1026
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,479
Speaker 5: Know they're buying into it, man, they have fully bought

1027
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 5: into it.

1028
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 2: I guess whatever gets you excited.

1029
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:21,280
Speaker 1: I don't know any rookies that we didn't mention Lakwan

1030
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: that you think are ready to make a big leap

1031
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 1: next year.

1032
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 4: Riley Leonard if the Colts give him a shot. I'm

1033
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 4: just saying, if they give him a shot, Riley Leonard.

1034
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 4: But if I want to be completely serious, it's Tyler Shuck.

1035
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:36,919
Speaker 4: I am going with Tyler Schuk for the simple fact

1036
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 4: that you have CHRISO Lave saying, Hey, Spencer, rally ship

1037
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,959
Speaker 4: play somewhere else, because Tyler Shuck is basically our guy.

1038
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:47,399
Speaker 4: Like I like that, you know he wants Tyler Schuck

1039
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 4: to be his guy, and moving forward, he wants to

1040
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 4: stay in New Orleans.

1041
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 3: But Tyler Schuck impressed me.

1042
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 2: Man.

1043
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 3: I was completely wrong about his play.

1044
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 4: I'm completely wrong about his confidence because he is the

1045
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 4: leader of the locker room as you can see so

1046
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 4: many people rally around him. But I think next season

1047
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 4: we're gonna be talking about him in a different light,

1048
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 4: Like we're not gonna be talking about him as a

1049
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 4: streamer or a guy that you just pick up off

1050
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 4: the waiver war like he might be a consistent start,

1051
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 4: just based on him being mobile out of the pocket

1052
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 4: and the weapons that they have around him, and maybe

1053
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 4: the weapons that they acquire. I think folks want to

1054
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 4: play with Tyler Schoke because he's shown that moxie and

1055
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 4: seems to be like New Orleans is opening their arms

1056
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 4: to him. So I do think that he's going to

1057
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 4: have a good stay there, and I think that he's

1058
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,240
Speaker 4: going to be in those talks of like super flex

1059
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,959
Speaker 4: leagues where you have to get yourself in Tyler Shuck, I.

1060
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: Was about to ask you, would you draft him as

1061
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 1: a QB one.

1062
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 4: A QB one, I will be completely honest, right, A

1063
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 4: QB one to me like I'm building a different roster.

1064
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 4: I'm building straight wide receivers, running backs, some hammering, and

1065
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 4: then I wait until that twelve thirteenth round or even

1066
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 4: later for QB one and see how that mold will go.

1067
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 4: The mobileness in him, like him being able to run

1068
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 4: out of the pocket and run one in and then

1069
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 4: having that gunslinger mentality at times. I wouldn't be surprised

1070
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,800
Speaker 4: if we're sitting here next year like, Wow, that was

1071
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 4: a heck of a season by Tyler Shouk al QB

1072
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 4: one season out of him. Maybe we start talking about

1073
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 4: him in a different light then, Like I think we're

1074
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:13,439
Speaker 4: all on the climb here with Tyler Schuk right now.

1075
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 1: I think he's a seat filler. I think he's a

1076
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,399
Speaker 1: Bridge quarterback, I think, I I mean, the dude's gonna

1077
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 1: be what twenty seven next year?

1078
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 3: Yeah? I do like him though, but the ages.

1079
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,959
Speaker 1: I mean, he was the backup to Justin Herbert at Oregon. Yeah,

1080
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 1: that's insane. That's insane. That's insane. He was Justin Herbert's

1081
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: backup at Oregon. He went to three different colleges. He's

1082
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: gonna be twenty seven next September. I think he's a

1083
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 1: seat filler for whenever the Saints feel like they want

1084
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 1: to pull the trigger on.

1085
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 2: A rookie quarterback.

1086
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 3: He does have to win games. That's important.

1087
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 2: I think he'll hang around the league as a nice.

1088
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,760
Speaker 1: Backup for a little bit. He'll be he'd be Josh McCown.

1089
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 1: I think that's what he can be. I think that's that's.

1090
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 2: What we're looking at.

1091
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 4: Okay, So that my original Riley Leonard. Remember I said this,

1092
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 4: Can we clip this Riley Leonard just saying it, saying

1093
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 4: it now, coining him as my next year jump for years.

1094
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 2: Until the So the Cult re signed Daniel Jones.

1095
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,879
Speaker 4: Bro Daniel Jones will be twenty nine years old, coming

1096
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 4: from an achilles injury. They will sign him to be

1097
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 4: the guy holding the clipboard midway through the season, when

1098
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:27,720
Speaker 4: Riley Leonard makes this offense go to the playoffs.

1099
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 3: That deep side, that deep side.

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00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,359
Speaker 1: You got Riley Leonard taking the Cults to the playoffs. Now,

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00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 1: like yep, because he I mean, I guess he could.

1102
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 1: He could buy everybody tickets, you know, ye? All right,

1103
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: Any any rookies you think Florida can make the leap

1104
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 1: next year?

1105
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1106
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:53,320
Speaker 5: Two that I did, like as prospects, and but I

1107
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 5: think r J Harvey first, I'll say it right now.

1108
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 5: I think as pending the Broncos not doing what they

1109
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 5: did last offseason, I think r J. Larvey's floor is

1110
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 5: a second round return. I think he could easily be

1111
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 5: a first round caliber player in the Champaynton offense with

1112
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 5: everything he can do. And then you remember this was

1113
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 5: my guy, if you if you listened in like March

1114
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 5: and stuff, Luther Burden. I think next summer Luther Burden

1115
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 5: is going to be insanely hyped up. I think you're

1116
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 5: we're gonna hear that he's gonna be the breakout star

1117
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 5: and everything, and I think he comes through on that.

1118
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 5: Like I'll say it right now, January sixth, next year,

1119
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 5: Luther Burden the Bears wide receiver one.

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00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:36,320
Speaker 1: Oh, all right, I'm gonna give you a couple of Chargers.

1121
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 1: I did like Luther Burden, he was one. I'll leave

1122
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 1: you a couple of Chargers, Rondy Gadston and Trey Harris.

1123
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 1: And I think they're love that they're gonna battle it

1124
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:45,879
Speaker 1: out to see which one. But I think I think

1125
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 1: the big takeaway is I think we've seen the last

1126
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 1: of Keenan Allen, certainly with the Chargers, probably in the NFL.

1127
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 1: I think I think he just, you know, decides to

1128
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 1: hang him up after this year. But as the season

1129
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,359
Speaker 1: went on, we saw Trey Harris start to take over

1130
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: more those snaps, more of those routes, more of those targets.

1131
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 1: So I think you're gonna see him kind of take

1132
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,359
Speaker 1: a step forward. And you know, Gadston, we saw him

1133
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 1: get hot at you know, in stretches, right, he was

1134
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 1: kind of hot early.

1135
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 2: Then he came back kind of later in the season.

1136
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be a bigger role for him

1137
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 1: to their next year with the Chargers for sure. All right,

1138
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 1: take a quick break, one last segment, A little bit

1139
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 1: hype trainer smoke screen look at twenty twenty five and

1140
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:23,839
Speaker 1: spin it to twenty twenty six.

1141
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 2: That's next on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast.

1142
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 1: So I have to look at some guys who finished

1143
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 1: the year on a hot streak and play some hype

1144
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: trainer smoke screen whether or not we think, you know,

1145
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: they just got hot at the right time, or if

1146
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: there really is something that we can take with us

1147
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,399
Speaker 1: into the next season. So, because you were kind enough

1148
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: to use his full name, Laquantum, gonna ask you about one.

1149
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:47,720
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence.

1150
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 1: Obviously was amazing down the stretch. I'm sure helped a

1151
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 1: lot of people win fantasy championships.

1152
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 2: Did he just get hot at the right time or

1153
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 2: did he actually figure something out?

1154
00:51:58,680 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 3: No, they figured it out.

1155
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 4: I think again, going back to the Jacoby Myers, you know,

1156
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 4: being traded there and then them extending him like I

1157
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,760
Speaker 4: do think that's going to be one of his best

1158
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 4: wide receiver targets. And we've seen Jacoby elevate that quarterback position,

1159
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 4: which I think is what happened. So being that they

1160
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 4: have the same piece as all these guys stay healthy

1161
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 4: and the way they're playing right now, this seems sustainable,

1162
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 4: Like this seems to be the identity of this Jacksonville

1163
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 4: Jaguars offense. Like we've seen Liam Cohen turn around that

1164
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 4: Bucks offense to be one of the most scariest. Now

1165
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 4: put him in Douvall. We're looking at a lot of

1166
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 4: these weapons where you're seeing Parker Washington coming on, we're

1167
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 4: seeing Brandon Strange and Traves Etn looks like an RB

1168
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,760
Speaker 4: one again. And I think that's all, you know, shout

1169
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 4: out to Liam Cuhen getting that done. So, I think

1170
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence is retired from the middle meter forever. He's

1171
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 4: out of the satul discontent forever. So I think this

1172
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:56,280
Speaker 4: is the quarterback product that we were hoping for getting

1173
00:52:56,280 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 4: out of Clemson with the whole John Elway and Andrew Lucky,

1174
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 4: you know, comparisons again, I.

1175
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,720
Speaker 1: Get going back to if you didn't have Irvin Meyer

1176
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: that first year and then Doug Peterson, who just I

1177
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,240
Speaker 1: don't know, didn't really seem that he was fully committed.

1178
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 2: You know what what could have been?

1179
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 1: Could we have gotten here sooner with Trevor Lawrence if

1180
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:21,919
Speaker 1: the circumstances were different, maybe maybe Floriose Flowers again got

1181
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,879
Speaker 1: hot late in the season, made some plays, actually found

1182
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 1: the end zone, which is the thing that he doesn't

1183
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 1: really do you know, hy prayer smokescreen?

1184
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 2: Can this carry over to next year?

1185
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 5: I think it's whatever's in the middle of these two things,

1186
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 5: because if it wasn't for those and I know we

1187
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,359
Speaker 5: could you could say this about a lot of players, right,

1188
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 5: but that fourth quarter in Week eighteen really made his

1189
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 5: season look a little bit different, because without that, it

1190
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 5: was going to be almost an identical season to the

1191
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 5: one he had two years ago. I think Zay Flowers

1192
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 5: is like the Michael Jordan of Wandell Robinson. And the

1193
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 5: reason I say that it is because he doesn't score touchdowns, right,

1194
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 5: Like all you're getting all of your points on catches

1195
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 5: and yards, and he's more effective than like one Dell

1196
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 5: and some of these other guys who don't score a

1197
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 5: lot of touchdowns, but it limits your fantasy sealing. Like

1198
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 5: I'd rather have a DeVante Adams who might not put

1199
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 5: up twelve hundred yards, but it's gonna get me double

1200
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 5: digit touchdowns rather than and this is for fantasy, not

1201
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 5: real life, but rather than like a Zay who got

1202
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 5: twelve hundred yards but only five touchdowns and that ties.

1203
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 2: His career high.

1204
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 5: So I think Zay Flowers like next year when I'm

1205
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 5: doing my rankings, he will once again come in in

1206
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 5: that like borderline as a wide receiver two or three.

1207
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 5: He'll have some weeks where he's a one. He'll have

1208
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 5: other weeks where he's a four, you know, like because

1209
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 5: but most weeks, I feel like he's gonna live in

1210
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 5: that two to three territory. And there's nothing wrong with that,

1211
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 5: but I just think that the lack of touchdowns holds

1212
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 5: him back.

1213
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: I mean it's sort of wild that even with out

1214
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:59,320
Speaker 1: scoring touchdowns, he's wide receiver seven at the end of

1215
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: the year. Like just imagine if he actually did score

1216
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: touchdowns consistently, right, he got you over.

1217
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 2: Twelve hundred yards.

1218
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,320
Speaker 1: I mean, he had two really big blow up games

1219
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: kind of later in the season.

1220
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 2: This was really consistent.

1221
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 3: That's what he is, though.

1222
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,800
Speaker 5: He's he's someone that is going to be like most

1223
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 5: weeks like a floor play, and then he'll have that

1224
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 5: huge game.

1225
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 3: Where he puts up like twenty fives.

1226
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like he's who we wanted Tavon Austin to be.

1227
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 4: And one of those things was like looking at Zay

1228
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:35,280
Speaker 4: and the whole body of work, like for a fantasy season,

1229
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:37,359
Speaker 4: like it has to be an headache if you draft

1230
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 4: him as a wide receiver too, because again, like how

1231
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 4: Floria was saying, those downs, those floors that are scary,

1232
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 4: it's one of those things where that can lose you

1233
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 4: a week. So that's why me personally, why I attend

1234
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 4: to like kind of fade ze, like if he starts

1235
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 4: to get pulled up in rankings once we get into summertime,

1236
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 4: et cetera, et cetera, I completely look the other way

1237
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 4: because most of the time where he goes and drafts,

1238
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,319
Speaker 4: like there's other better options. Like I feel a little bit,

1239
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 4: you know better taking somebody like a Terry McLaurin healthy

1240
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,839
Speaker 4: next season, if he falls that far, I'd rather take,

1241
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 4: you know, other options, and the rookies that are going

1242
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:15,720
Speaker 4: to year two, maybe at Tetarol McMillan, maybe a Jacoby Myers,

1243
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 4: Like I feel like there are more stability there versus

1244
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 4: a guy that's having a twenty nine percent target share

1245
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 4: but yet there's no touchdown.

1246
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 3: It's going to be attached to that.

1247
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 2: That's fair.

1248
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 1: Look what, Michael Wilson, is there something there or does

1249
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 1: he need Jacoby Brissette to still be a quarterback.

1250
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,359
Speaker 4: In order to eat If Drew Pessing does not want

1251
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,720
Speaker 4: to get fired. He will understand the assignment that Michael

1252
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,479
Speaker 4: Wilson is your wide receiver one. He's shown this week

1253
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 4: after week that this is the system that you have

1254
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 4: drawn up. I can perfect it and elevate it. Marvin

1255
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:49,879
Speaker 4: Harrison is simply the wide receiver too. That's just something

1256
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 4: they need to rip that band aid off and just

1257
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 4: put in his head. Hey, sit back, you developed, You

1258
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 4: get the playbook under your belt, and then you go

1259
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 4: out there and play freely. He cannot have this pressure

1260
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 4: that he is the number one target whoever they put

1261
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 4: back there at quarterback because it may not be percent.

1262
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 4: I kind of hope that it's percent, but it likely

1263
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:09,800
Speaker 4: not going to be percent.

1264
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 2: It's not gonna be.

1265
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 3: I hope it's not Kyler Murray because you'll just be

1266
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 3: hitting that whoever it is.

1267
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 2: Whoever it may be.

1268
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 4: You have to understand Michael Wilson's your wide receiver one.

1269
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 4: Like he's going out there burning guys. He's out there

1270
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 4: breaking ankles, he's making circus catches, he's out there making

1271
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 4: one handed catches, being a red zone threat. He has

1272
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 4: everything you want in a wide receiver, and it sucks

1273
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 4: that it took injuries, quarterbacks being benched just to see

1274
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 4: him blossom into this beautiful talent of a wide receiver.

1275
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 5: One, So I agree, but he's always at best, He's

1276
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 5: going to be the number two target because of Trade McBride.

1277
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, like Trey McBride is their actual number one. But

1278
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 3: I'm cool with that.

1279
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 2: That's not a bad place to be. No.

1280
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 3: But then, but so like, I really.

1281
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 5: Like Wilson has a talent I think as a hype train.

1282
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 5: But Marvin Harrison isn't going away either, So then those

1283
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 5: two are now competing to be the number two target

1284
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 5: because you're.

1285
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 1: Not getting away from tree ming Brian, Yeah, no, that's true.

1286
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 1: There's so many questions there though, right, because who's the

1287
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 1: head coach?

1288
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 3: Who?

1289
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 1: I mean, do they keep Drew pettsing around as the

1290
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 1: OC with a new head coach?

1291
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 3: I think, So who's going to be the quarterback there?

1292
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 6: Right?

1293
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 1: If we are all sort of decided it's not going

1294
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 1: to be Kyler. I think we all decided months ago

1295
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 1: that Kyler had played his last game for the Cardinals.

1296
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 1: I look, Joeyer said, is nice, he's serviceable. I can't

1297
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 1: imagine though, you're going to go into the season.

1298
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 3: He should be the two help install.

1299
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 1: He's a good backup, he's a good mentor, just to

1300
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 1: kind of help get somebody in. But like, the quarterback

1301
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 1: class isn't that deep, So I don't know that they

1302
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:50,919
Speaker 1: draft somebody at three.

1303
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 2: The free agent.

1304
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 1: Market, like, I don't think there's anybody that they're going to.

1305
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 2: Go and spend for to bring in there.

1306
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 3: Matt Jones for a two year contract seems.

1307
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 2: Decent, I guess, so, I guess that could work.

1308
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 5: They had a press conference yesterday and they got asked

1309
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 5: about this and their response. The GM's response was, Kyler

1310
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 5: is under contract, Jacoby's under contract. And I'm like, that's

1311
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 5: the case.

1312
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 2: Of dead means whatever that means.

1313
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 3: Whenever they started saying they're under contract, that's bad.

1314
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 4: Lets need said that about Jared Goff he's our quarterback today, Yeah,

1315
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 4: he's I mean bad.

1316
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 3: This is really bad, all right?

1317
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:29,919
Speaker 2: Last one.

1318
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 1: I got a couple of names on this list, but

1319
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 1: we'll talk about them another time. Last one, and it's

1320
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 1: fitting that we tossed this one to you to start

1321
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 1: Florio Kyle Fitz. Kyle Fitz who kept the trend going

1322
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 1: year one, he had one year one, he had one touchdown.

1323
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 1: You're two he had two touchdowns. Year three, he had three.

1324
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 1: Year four, he had four. Year five one two, three, four, five,

1325
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 1: five five five touchdowns for Kyle. So I'm guessing we

1326
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 1: can just write him in for six touchdowns next season.

1327
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 1: But more importantly, can he carry his late season performance

1328
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 1: over to next year when he may not be an

1329
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcon anymore.

1330
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:10,959
Speaker 5: I think, just on the Kyle Pitts side of things,

1331
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 5: it is a hype train. I think that he showed

1332
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 5: he could play. I think that he showed that when

1333
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 5: he has a quarterback willing to trust him, that he

1334
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 5: because Michael Pannis wasn't throwing his way a whole bunch,

1335
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 5: and I get it, Drake London was doing things Bejon's

1336
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 5: doing things. But when London missed time, Kyle Pitch showed like, hey,

1337
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 5: I can be a top option for a team and

1338
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 5: put up numbers and have success. He the best Fantasy

1339
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 5: game by a tight end all season. But it depends

1340
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 5: where he ends up because I'm not sure if he

1341
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 5: ends up back with the Falcons. They don't have a

1342
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 5: ton of cap. It's now a new regime. They might

1343
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 5: want to start over with some of their own guys.

1344
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 5: So it all depends on where he ends up. But

1345
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 5: talent wise, I think Kyle.

1346
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 3: Pitts has shown that he can be a very good

1347
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 3: tight end in this league.

1348
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean again, he started to look like that

1349
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 1: game wrecker that we saw at Florida, right, the absolute

1350
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 1: game changer, the reason the Falcons spent the number four

1351
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 1: overall picked on him once upon a time, like that

1352
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 1: guy showed up late in the season, and you know.

1353
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 5: I think that knee injury affected him a lot longer

1354
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 5: than we realized because remember the first year back, he

1355
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 5: was still in a brace. He was like, I think

1356
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 5: he was one of those guys that it took him

1357
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 5: a full year to kind of get back to where

1358
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 5: he was pre injury.

1359
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's probably fair to talk about with him

1360
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 1: for sure. So I don't know, maybe he slides into

1361
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 1: that Travis Kelsey spot once Kelsey officially retires, and.

1362
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 3: No, don't put that out there. I don't want to

1363
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 3: have the root Patrick Kyle Pitts.

1364
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes comes back for week one. He's got Kyle

1365
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 1: Pitts to work with. They don't really have any riding name.

1366
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 1: They have what Rashid Rice, but they don't really have

1367
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 1: any receivers beyond that, like, yeah, he could go bananas

1368
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 1: in that Chiefs offense.

1369
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 4: We all know he's going to become a new England Patriot, right,

1370
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 4: That's just why, just what.

1371
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 3: It is that feels pretty possible.

1372
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 2: Honestly, that feels possible, and that that actually would not

1373
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 2: be a bad spot for him.

1374
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 3: I don't like it.

1375
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 1: I'm sure you don't. I'm sure you don't, but yeah.

1376
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 3: But for fantasy it would be awesome. I think might

1377
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:17,959
Speaker 3: be their top target.

1378
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 2: For sure, for sure.

1379
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:21,919
Speaker 1: So yeah, I was gonna mention Colston Loveland and Kenneth

1380
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 1: gange Well. I feel like Gainwell is absolute smoke screen

1381
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 1: like this was this was just about the circumstance.

1382
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 3: This is his John U year with Arthur Smith. Yeah,

1383
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 3: like I could see that.

1384
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody's buying it, right, and I think

1385
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 1: next year we'll see gain Well going in double digit rounds.

1386
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 2: If at all, I think everybody's which is.

1387
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 3: Good, it's fine, that's free people.

1388
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 1: I think people see this for what it is and

1389
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:49,920
Speaker 1: not any idea that Kenneth Gainwell is like a dude

1390
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:50,920
Speaker 1: all of a sudden.

1391
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 4: Lovely is interesting though, because in your two I don't

1392
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 4: know if I'm fully bought in yet, especially with Luther

1393
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 4: Burden on the rush.

1394
01:02:57,480 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just want to see what they do with

1395
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 1: the wide receiver room little bit because like is.

1396
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 3: Co co meta free agent? Yes, I believe hold Ell.

1397
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I think, But also like I just

1398
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 2: don't know.

1399
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 1: No, Cocomet's still in the contract for at least another year.

1400
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, that that happened a coups.

1401
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 1: But you know, I mean DJ Moore is locked up

1402
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 1: for a while. We know Romo Doonesa is not going anywhere,

1403
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 1: Luther Burden is there.

1404
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 3: There's just trade DJ. I.

1405
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 1: As much as I love Caleb Williams, I don't think

1406
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 1: he can support He can maybe support three guys, he

1407
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 1: definitely can't support four.

1408
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 3: The Bears still don't have a four thousand yard pastor.

1409
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 3: That makes me sad.

1410
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 2: Two years in a row.

1411
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 3: I though taylb would do it.

1412
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 1: He missed it by like fifty eight yards I think

1413
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 1: it was. It wasn't by a lot, but he didn't.

1414
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 1: He didn't get there this year.

1415
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna help the fund receivers are out there.

1416
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 1: I'll hold down next year and say he does it

1417
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 1: fifty eight yards.

1418
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 2: He missed it by that was it?

1419
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 3: You're not wrong. You're just early.

1420
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 2: Just early. That's it. That's what I'm saying.

1421
01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 1: The city of Chicago got a pope before he got

1422
01:03:58,880 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 1: a four thousand yard pastor.

1423
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying.

1424
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 1: Anyway, that's a good spot for us to kind of

1425
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 1: shut this down for today, So I'll do it for

1426
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 1: this edition of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. They happy,

1427
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:10,959
Speaker 1: save in healthy, do good, and live well. Enjoy Today

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01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 1: is everybody will talk to you again on Thursday.