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Speaker 1: All right, David one ninety four hour two Sean Hannity Show,

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Speaker 1: eight hundred and nine four one, Sean, you want to

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Speaker 1: be a part of the program. Apparently, Sean penned, the

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Speaker 1: Actor of all people is trapped behind enemy lines. He

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Speaker 1: was seen yesterday, spotted, I guess earlier today in the

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Speaker 1: front row of press briefing and Kiev with high ranking

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Speaker 1: Ukrainian officials discussing the day's invasion by Russia. And apparently

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Speaker 1: he's been working on a documentary about the escalating tensions

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Speaker 1: in the country since last year, and he flew to

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Speaker 1: Ukraine earlier this week. So obviously for business reasons, I

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Speaker 1: didn't tell you that the you know, with all that

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Speaker 1: we have just said and all that I've laid out

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Speaker 1: about what this is really all about, and how if

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Speaker 1: we had continued, if Joe Biden had continued Donald Trump's policies,

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Speaker 1: well pretty much on everything. If every problem he's caused

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Speaker 1: is not only preventable, but it's solvable. The problem at

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Speaker 1: the border was preventable, we can solve it. Go back

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Speaker 1: to the Trump policies, the problems with the economy. He

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Speaker 1: inherited a good economy, we could solve it. Go back

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Speaker 1: to the Trump policies on energy, you go back to

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Speaker 1: energy independence and being a net exporter of energy on it.

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Speaker 1: Just picked the issue and you would you would be

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Speaker 1: in a much better shape. You go back to the

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Speaker 1: Trump policies on COVID. We wouldn't have run out of

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Speaker 1: tests over Christmas, of it's so predictable hanakka Christmas New Year's. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have a rise in infections because people get together.

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Speaker 1: It's a predictable spike that you're probably going to have

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Speaker 1: as many years as the pandemic as a pandemic, and

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Speaker 1: But I keep saying that the answer to all of

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Speaker 1: this should have been the speech that Joe Biden gave

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Speaker 1: as the Russians started building up troops and when Putin

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Speaker 1: laid out his Ukrainian is Not a Country manifesto on

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Speaker 1: July twelve. He should have at that moment realized and

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Speaker 1: recognized the severity of the problem of the dependency of

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Speaker 1: of you out there in this audience that knew that

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Speaker 1: in the year twenty twenty one that Joe Biden literally

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Speaker 1: imported two hundred and thirty two thousand, six hundred thousand

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Speaker 1: oil that shocked me from Iran first time since nineteen

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Speaker 1: or the three hundred and fifty million barrels from Opec.

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Speaker 1: We wore energy independent, a net exporter of energy. And

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Speaker 1: so what is his climate Czar John Kerry saying, you

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Speaker 1: know about this Russian invasion of Ukraine. He's the climates are,

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Speaker 1: He's Joe Biden's climates are. Remember this is a guy,

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Speaker 1: and I don't begrudge him of having a private plane.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's a hell of a great thing to have.

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Speaker 1: But don't lecture the rest of America about our carbon

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Speaker 1: footprints while you're flying around the world in your private jet.

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Speaker 1: That's called hypocrisy. We don't need your hypocrisy. And he's

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Speaker 1: been flying around in his private jet with his carbon emissions,

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Speaker 1: and he says, well, our job is more important to

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Speaker 1: save the earth. This is what he said. No war

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Speaker 1: with Ukraine is going to distract the world from the

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Speaker 1: climate change crisis. What do I call him, climate change

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Speaker 1: alarm alarmist. It's a climate change alarmist cult, new Green deal,

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Speaker 1: radical socialist cults. And I'm concerned about Ukraine because of

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Speaker 1: the people of Ukraine and because of the principles that

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Speaker 1: The US presidential you know, as presidential lamboy for climate

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Speaker 1: But more equally important, you're going to lose people's focus.

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Speaker 1: six percent of that nation was over frozen land. This

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Speaker 1: is what he's worried that the war distract from climate change. Now,

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Speaker 1: when Joe Biden didn't give the speech you should have

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Speaker 1: We have more oil, We have more natural gas, more

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Speaker 1: ratchet up production to the highest levels of America's ever seen,

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Speaker 1: We wouldn't have to worry about it ran anymore. That

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Speaker 1: countries that hate our guts. Joe's been begging OPEC. They

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Speaker 1: Joe wouldn't have to import another barrel of oil from Russia.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty pathetic. Our Western European allies will have all

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Speaker 1: don't want any of the sanctions on Russia. They're perfectly

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Speaker 1: fine as long as they're not the country that's being annexed.

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Speaker 1: They're not the country being invaded. That's the speech Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden should have given today. But that's the speech that

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Speaker 1: cultist socialist democrats in Congress, and he'll never have the

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Speaker 1: Congressman August Flueger of Texas is with us, and he

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Speaker 1: Thank you both for being here. Congressman Fluger, let me

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Speaker 1: should have done today? Well, Sean, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: You're absolutely right, and you know he's got the biggest

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Speaker 1: certainly is bipartisan agreement that before Biden goes in and

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Speaker 1: of the hour. Senator Mark Arrubio. He's the one that

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Speaker 1: There was a moment today. So Biden comes out much

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Speaker 1: In there you could hear Biden staffs And one more question?

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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty and almost as many as a million

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Speaker 1: Russian passports given to Ukrainian separatists, and I was wondering,

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Speaker 1: how much of a component do you think that is

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Speaker 1: in Putin's justification. Well, I think it was a ruse.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think it was a pretext to oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to recognize these Russian supporting independent regions and

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Speaker 1: we're going to send him peacekeeping forces, and now we're

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Speaker 1: going to disarm the entire country and go to war

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Speaker 1: and start bombing the entire country. He's lied the entire time,

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Speaker 1: and that's what dictators, authoritarians do. They lie. He's lied

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Speaker 1: about the entire process. All his territorial ambitions are playing

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Speaker 1: out right before our eyes. But after Georgia, CRIMEA, well,

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Speaker 1: I would, and Belarus and Moldova. Why would anyone be

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Speaker 1: surprised I'm not Rubio's next