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Speaker 1: A man, my man. The important thing is you only

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Speaker 1: life's next year. Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to

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Speaker 1: the No Dunks podcast on the Athletic Network. It's Thursday,

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Speaker 1: July fourteenth. Here we are back in the Classic Factory.

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Speaker 3: I'm J. E.

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Speaker 1: Skeets, and alongside me, as always, Tass Melis.

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Speaker 2: That's basketball.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. We're still running a three man weave

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Speaker 1: over here, just the three of us because over yonder

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Speaker 1: making the magic happen. Super producer JD. Hello, there is

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Speaker 1: and here we are TK the Bearded one. He's coming

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Speaker 1: back soon. I think he might be back tomorrow from

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Speaker 1: He's gone for months. We won't see him till October,

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Speaker 1: He'll be back at around the start of August. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: just the three of us. That's fine. Task said it.

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Speaker 1: It's back to basketball here on today's show because we

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Speaker 1: got some juicy topics to really sink our teeth into.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to the stream team though, joining us live

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Speaker 1: right now on YouTube, subscribe, like, comment, share the show,

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Speaker 1: email in your NBA questions to No Dunks at the

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Speaker 1: Athletic dot Com, and I do encourage you. I know

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Speaker 1: other sports podcasts we're doing. Definitely tass is brand new

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Speaker 1: podcast talking a little baseball No Bunts. We did that

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Speaker 2: The farmercist, straight up farmers.

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Speaker 2: We got some farmers down the road here from the studio.

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Speaker 1: They're still waiting for a mystery man to hit some digger.

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Speaker 1: You know Fournier's money. There are other young talented players

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Speaker 2: You regretted it, I did.

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Speaker 1: As we just said, Man, if he can get RJ

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Speaker 2: It would be an ideal. I bring him up because look,

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Speaker 2: Hear what they're saying. They wouldn't gut the whole team

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Speaker 2: seven game series, but then the following year he averaged

433
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Speaker 2: thirty two and in two two series there and then

434
00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:24,560
Speaker 2: things fell apart.

435
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's another reason you got to keep RJ. Barrett

436
00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:28,760
Speaker 1: on the team. If you're bringing in Mitchell, he needs

437
00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,479
Speaker 1: to be around a Canadian. When he was going for

438
00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,679
Speaker 1: fifty burgers, it was against Jamal Murray, right, you know,

439
00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:38,080
Speaker 1: opposite team, But just being around to Canadian brings something

440
00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:39,720
Speaker 1: out of him. So keep RJ.

441
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Speaker 2: Keep him.

442
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,840
Speaker 1: Let's talk about other teams though, that could definitely get

443
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Speaker 1: in the mix. You brought up the heat here. We

444
00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,440
Speaker 1: said they don't have a lot of draft capital. I mean,

445
00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:53,680
Speaker 1: there are some picks, but generally they're way in the future.

446
00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,639
Speaker 1: And yeah, I guess it would be Tyler Hero as

447
00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:01,440
Speaker 1: the centerpiece there and yurt seven and a the other joker.

448
00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,359
Speaker 1: You know, it'd be stuff like that. But I just

449
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:08,960
Speaker 1: think as a heater. Yeah, yeah, he was playing well too.

450
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,560
Speaker 1: But I think you're just gonna have to get You're

451
00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,200
Speaker 1: probably gonna have to get a third or fourth team

452
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,240
Speaker 1: involved for just more draft picks to go to Utah's way.

453
00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 1: There's no way like Danny Ainge is reportedly or was

454
00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,359
Speaker 1: pretty interested in Tyler Herro in the nineteen draft. I

455
00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,880
Speaker 1: think I think the Heat snatched him up one pick

456
00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,280
Speaker 1: before Danny Ainge would have had a selection in that

457
00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,679
Speaker 1: particular draft. So you know, he might love him, but

458
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:34,600
Speaker 1: you guys still need more. I think.

459
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,919
Speaker 2: I do think so as well. I do like the

460
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,440
Speaker 2: fit on the Miami Heat. He just makes sense around

461
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,440
Speaker 2: a team that plays great defense around him. We saw

462
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 2: what he did.

463
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Speaker 1: Oh you're saying the Heat with Mitchell. Yeah, yeah, and

464
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:51,439
Speaker 1: they could use a like a guy that give me

465
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Speaker 1: a bucket exactly.

466
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,639
Speaker 2: Yeah. They were lacking that in the postseason. And you know,

467
00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,560
Speaker 2: I think of the Utah Jazz as a successful team.

468
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,480
Speaker 2: I know they win a championship. They didn't get beyond

469
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,640
Speaker 2: the second round, but I feel like he could be

470
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 2: pretty decent if they could. Yeah, cobble together. The package

471
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 2: is the question, as you said, what is the package

472
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,880
Speaker 2: going back? I mean, obviously, as you said, you got

473
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 2: to figure out a third team to get that going

474
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,200
Speaker 2: because Hero headlines that they don't have their draft capital

475
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 2: beyond that, Like I don't.

476
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Speaker 1: The Heat are not giving up Butler. They're not giving

477
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Speaker 1: up Bam in any of these potential deals. It's led

478
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Speaker 1: by Hero. Then it's all these young guys that are promising,

479
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 1: and then it's these picks that are way again like

480
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 1: I said, and it's not a lot. There's not even

481
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 1: multiple multiple, there's not four or five we're talking about.

482
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:42,160
Speaker 1: There's like two or three. So I just but look

483
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,639
Speaker 1: pat Riley and that and that franchise, like they can

484
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Speaker 1: get a third team and four team involved. I mean

485
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:47,479
Speaker 1: they can do that.

486
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, But are.

487
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,440
Speaker 1: They gonna like yeah, are they gonna get like Sue,

488
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,639
Speaker 1: Are they just gonna bend over backwards to get Donovan

489
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:57,879
Speaker 1: Mitchell in there with like their core? And then and

490
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Speaker 1: then is that enough? Like we talked about where Mitchell

491
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 1: takes the Knicks ceiling. I mean, I guess you believe

492
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:03,640
Speaker 1: the Heat got way higher.

493
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, they do. They should. I think they should bend

494
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,160
Speaker 2: over backwards. I don't think the window is wide open

495
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 2: for the Miami Heat. You do it now. And if

496
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 2: you're Danny Age, I like what you said earlier about

497
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,120
Speaker 2: probably trying not to get Miami Heat draft picks because

498
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 2: they're always going.

499
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:20,120
Speaker 1: To be good.

500
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, pat Riley's always going to make this team good.

501
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 2: He's probably looking around the league and maybe you had

502
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 2: the picks come from somewhere else, or he likes fleecing

503
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 2: a team from New York like he did with Boston,

504
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,879
Speaker 2: and he fleeced the Nets there and it ended up

505
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,160
Speaker 2: happening that way with the draft picks. He would rather

506
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 2: bet on the Knicks being bad.

507
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 1: That's a good bet. Yeah, that's a very good bet.

508
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 1: And just a quick note too, because this I saw

509
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 1: some people a little confuse what was going on. While

510
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 1: Mitchell and Bam out of BYO. They're both on designated

511
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,479
Speaker 1: rookie extensions. Remember where we had all that talk about

512
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,120
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons and Bam. They can't be on the same

513
00:23:55,160 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 1: team because of those designated rookie extensions old CBA geeky stuff. Here,

514
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 1: they can Mitchell and Bam legally be on the same

515
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 1: team because Miami drafted Bam out of BIO, so it

516
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 1: could be on the heat, is what I'm saying here.

517
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 1: Or I guess if Mitchell state and Bam suddenly went there.

518
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,199
Speaker 1: It's it's the key is that one of them that

519
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 1: team they're going to has to have been drafted by

520
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 1: that team. That's why Ben Simmons not drafted by the Nets.

521
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 1: Bam then or Mitchell couldn't go and be on the

522
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,360
Speaker 1: on that roster with Ben Simmons. Does that make sense?

523
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 2: What a rule?

524
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 1: I know, it's it's a little odd. Can the Nets

525
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 1: get in on this with or should they in making

526
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 1: a move for Donovan Mitchell or no way.

527
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 2: It sounds like they would want to just just seemingly

528
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 2: they want to still be good. I mean they there.

529
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Speaker 2: Do they have the picks? No, definitely not because they

530
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 2: just traded on the rock Yeah, the Rockets, they got

531
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 2: them all. They just traded one for Royce O'Neill, which

532
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 2: is odd, but in theory sure.

533
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 1: Like notable trade assets obviously those Kevin Durant, there's Kyrie Irving,

534
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 1: Joe Harris, I guess there's Ben Simmons. There are some picks, but.

535
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I would have to be Ben Simmons. They're

536
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 2: not trading for Kyrie the Utah Jazz. We're not trading

537
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 2: for right and if like it's borderline, that's borderline. As

538
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 2: you said, Danny Agent, at the very least, he wants picks.

539
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 2: He probably wants a young players. Ben Simmons a young

540
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 2: player anymore? Does he classify as a young young promising player? Promising? Yeah,

541
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 2: I know, I don't know if Danny.

542
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 1: That's the adjective I'm struggling with. Yeah, we'll see, We'll see.

543
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 1: I have another team here. This is the one I

544
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,679
Speaker 1: tweeted last night. Yeah, and I actually said it on

545
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 1: July first. I said it half jokingly, but more I

546
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 1: thought about it, the more I'm like, it's it's not brutal.

547
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 1: If like you can't come to an agreement with the Knicks,

548
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,120
Speaker 1: I think is what I'm getting at here, Like there's

549
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 1: a hold up. I'm fine with also betting against the

550
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 1: Charlotte Hornets moving forward in the future and those picks

551
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 1: being good, and they have a lot of them. So

552
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,160
Speaker 1: what about the Jazz bringing back Gordon Hayward. It's really

553
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 1: for contract regions of course, Kelly Ubridge Jr. All right,

554
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: and then a ton of draft capital. I mean, this

555
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 1: is one of these like four picks, maybe a swap

556
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 1: to whatever Hornets get Donovan Mitchell and Rudy Gay to

557
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 1: make the trade happen. Fired it in the trade machine.

558
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 1: It gave me the okay. But here's my thinking. So

559
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,719
Speaker 1: the Jazz, of course, in doing something like that, you

560
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: are tanking for the big Frenchman. You're tanking for Victor there,

561
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,199
Speaker 1: I think you scored desirable draft capital. It's similar to

562
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: the Knicks here, but maybe even better. The Hornets, man,

563
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 1: they always are like they're going nowhere in a hurry.

564
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell would help them. I like him being paired

565
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 1: with LaMelo, but you know you're betting long term on them.

566
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,639
Speaker 1: I don't mind that. And you know Uber's deal is

567
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 1: an expiring deal after one year. It's twelve million off

568
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 1: the books, so you know you're helping yourself out there.

569
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 1: And again I like the Hornets. The Hornets, like the Knicks,

570
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,120
Speaker 1: are like, we need a superstar, we need a superstar.

571
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: Man him with Lamello, is he a superstar? Just exactly.

572
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 1: I think they would do this sort of in a heartbeat.

573
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 1: Of course they would do this in a heartbeat, if

574
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,679
Speaker 1: you're surely. It's whether the Jazz believe they'd get a

575
00:26:58,680 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 1: better package.

576
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 2: Back what they do in the heartbeat. The Hornets, the Hornets.

577
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 2: Do you want to mess with LaMelo?

578
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 1: I know, I mean I do like that. He's not six'

579
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 1: one Like. BRUNSON i, Mean LaMelo is at least a big. Guard,

580
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 1: yeah you, know he's not a defensive stud right, Now

581
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:19,439
Speaker 1: but what you think it's messes with. Them, REALLY i

582
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 1: don't at.

583
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 2: ALL i think they're both good enough to figure it

584
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 2: out if they. Want the question is what who it's really?

585
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 2: About Donovan. MITCHELL i Think LaMelo would be. Adaptable he

586
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 2: can play with. Somebody but you, know Is Donovan mitchell

587
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 2: going to be okay With labello being a Primary Baltam

588
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 2: it's probably, Fine but you, KNOW i think it's more

589
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 2: of a question than working With Jalen. Brunson BUT i

590
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 2: now that you bring up To Charlotte hornets in their draft,

591
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 2: PICKS i thought initially The knicks would sort of be

592
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 2: bidding against, themselves but The hornets is a good one

593
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 2: that The knicks would have to try and match or. Up,

594
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 2: Sure and so that's WHERE i think the rjb it

595
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 2: trump card comes into play, there because they they would

596
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 2: be giving up more. Talent.

597
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 1: YEAH i, MEAN i don't think jazz fans are gonna

598
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: be all that excited For Gordon hayward coming, back but

599
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 1: his barber.

600
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 2: Would, be, yeah, yeah for, sure client. Back, yeah you

601
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 2: know we're tweeting that.

602
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: We're sure we. Are what about The? Raptors what do

603
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 1: you think this?

604
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,239
Speaker 2: Is this is intrigued.

605
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 1: Because here's what's happening. Here we have all these teams

606
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 1: that are linked to the possibility of trading For Kevin,

607
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 1: durant and whether they strike out on that or they

608
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: their attention is by has been diverted to a, younger you,

609
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: know not on the Level, kdie don't get me, wrong

610
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 1: but obviously talented player In. Mitchell could The raptors be

611
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: one of those teams or should?

612
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 2: They when you look at the way they, played they

613
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 2: needed a bucket, getter for, sure they needed a guy

614
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 2: who could get it from the back. COURT i think.

615
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 2: SO i think you would try and Get Donovan mitchell

616
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 2: in that. Mix what are they going to have to give?

617
00:28:58,200 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 2: Up i'm not one hundred percent.

618
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: Certain, YEAH i mean picks, Obviously, YEAH i guess we're.

619
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: Talking it's similar to The durant type of, trade LIKE

620
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: Ogb Gary. Trent that's the thing The raptors if they're

621
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 1: like trying to make a move For Kevin durant and

622
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: like they're being told it's got to Be Scotty, obviously

623
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: it's got to be like siakam one of those, two

624
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: and we want both of. Them whatever package that you.

625
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: Like if you turn your attention to the. Jazz you're, saying,

626
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: well we were offering this For Kevin, durant we're taking

627
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: PLAYER x off the, board a pick or two off the,

628
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: board and we're, saying what about this For Donnan. Mitchell

629
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: are you enamored with any of these young players that

630
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: have obviously shown promise already here in the in the,

631
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: league and then our. PICKS i think IT'S i think it's,

632
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: that but it's Not scotty and it's NOT i don't

633
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 1: even think it's Like siakam at that, point If i'm being,

634
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: HONEST i think it's more the level down of Og Gary,

635
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: trent you, know stuff to make it. Happen but, Like

636
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: i'm not even like you're not excited about not really

637
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: not Really.

638
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 2: WOW i think he would be a huge difference maker

639
00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 2: if you can Keep sakham And fred Van vliet And Scottie.

640
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 2: Barnes i'm a. BELIEVER i think The raptors, say our

641
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 2: culture is, great you come in, here you're gonna be

642
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 2: and and he's worked in good cultures. BEFORE i KEEP

643
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 2: i keep trying to you, KNOW i worry About Donovan

644
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 2: mitchell is a guy who hasn't worked out. Somewhere he

645
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 2: he has but this last year hasn't worked. OUT i

646
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 2: think that's a good. TEAM i think that's a great.

647
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 2: Team if you've got If ogi is the best player

648
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 2: they are giving, up you've got, great, great great defense

649
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 2: With fred And barnes beside him and whatever happens at

650
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 2: the five. Spot i'm a. Believer i'm a huge, believer

651
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 2: And fred is more of a secondary. World, now maybe

652
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 2: you take away some Of pascal And Scottie, barnes Even

653
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 2: fred to a, degree they're, playmaking their ability to play

654
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 2: on the, ball and but.

655
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 1: But you're looking at it like one of The raptors'

656
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: biggest weakness was in a half court and it's like

657
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 1: we need we need a, bucket and you Know siakam

658
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 1: at times can do. It but, yeah from the guard,

659
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: position for, SURE i don't. KNOW i don't. KNOW i

660
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: just don't think that's also. Enough, REALLY i, mean Unless

661
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: Danny ainge is in love with the the idea OF

662
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: O g playing fifty five games for you every season and.

663
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 2: You're not giving, up not giving up somebody better than.

664
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 2: That For Donovan, mitchell whether it was.

665
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: Team pick one of those, Guys, yeah no one's Picking.

666
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: Barnes So sam see that's, like are you really you

667
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: think The raptor is gonna be all that much better

668
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: if they traded LIKE i, know those other, pieces but

669
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: For Donovan, MITCHELL i.

670
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 2: WOULDN'T i wouldn't want to give Up. Pascal, ye he does,

671
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 2: so he did and does so much for that, team

672
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 2: and he's. OLDER i DON'T i don't even know if

673
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 2: if that's A Danny ah type of. Player, yeah because

674
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 2: he's in.

675
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: His Late what we're getting out, here especially As raptors,

676
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: fans is, like, hey would you Upgrade Gary Trent junior

677
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: For Donovan? Mitchell? Yeah of, course, sure, yes it takes

678
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: o G, okay no, problem we got we got a,

679
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: million six eight. Guys we're fine. There so but it's.

680
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 2: Gonna SCOTTY i guess. Not, well, YEAH i bring it.

681
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 2: UP i know people out. THERE i Love Scotty barnes

682
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 2: and he obviously overachieved in year one or you, know over,

683
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 2: DELIVERED i guess as the. Word but m missize. Cutthroat

684
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 2: he'll do anything to make his team a championship. TEAM

685
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 2: i wouldn't want to Trade. Scotty But Donovan mitchell is

686
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 2: a heck of a.

687
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: Player so let's get into how like These mitchell trade

688
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: rooms sort of Impact Kevin durant in the, discussions because

689
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: During wednesday's edition Of Get, Up, Windhorst what's Going, on

690
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: noted that The, Jazz, Nets pacers And, sons they're all

691
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: in a position to make big off season moves because

692
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 1: of situations Involving, Mitchell, Durant DeAndre eight and stuff like.

693
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: That bobby mars then chuck this at the. WORLD i

694
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: think you got a photo of, IT JD a proposed

695
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: hypothetical four team. Trade we got it up on. YouTube

696
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: i'll read it for all the podcast. Listeners this Is

697
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 1: Bobby marx OF espn hypothetical. Trade so The nets would Get, Donovan,

698
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: Mitchell McHale, bridges And Miles. Turner The sons would Get Kevin,

699
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: durant and he's been linked to. Them of, Course pacers

700
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: would Get DeAndre. Eaton everybody keeps telling us that's gonna happen,

701
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: anyway and then The jazz would come away With Ben,

702
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: Simmons Cam. Thomas five first round, picks four From, phoenix

703
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,719
Speaker 1: one From cleveland by way of The, pacers and then

704
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: three swapwrits also from The. Sun. Wow these these are

705
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: always tough to wrap your head around here a. Task

706
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: what was your first reaction To Bobby marks here dropping this?

707
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 2: One, First Bobby marx is simply just a great. Name.

708
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 2: Uh and so Whenever bobby, SPEAKS i. Listened you, know

709
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 2: he's been in the front. OFFICE i could he's been

710
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 2: in The nets front. OFFICE i could see him as

711
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,479
Speaker 2: an agent. Though you, Know Bobby marks is a great agent.

712
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 2: Name he could have been In. Hustle he would kick.

713
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 2: ASS i think, honestly the four teams there would be somewhat.

714
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 2: SATISFIED i wasn't angry yet. Whatsoever it seemed like all

715
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 2: of them kind of got what they. Wanted it's the

716
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,959
Speaker 2: question of AND i Know bobby brought this up ON,

717
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 2: espn would The jazz be happy With Ben. Simmons he's

718
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 2: gonna be twenty, six, Right he's got long term, money

719
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 2: And i'm sure Dany ange would, say don't play for a,

720
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 2: bit take your. Time we want to be bad quickly.

721
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: Here he's, like no, Problem, yeah well back is.

722
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 2: Killing so you chill. Out but does he want to

723
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,439
Speaker 2: take on long term money with a guy who's twenty

724
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 2: six And Ben simmons and might not be you, know

725
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 2: the star of a. Team you, know next it's not a.

726
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 2: Luck they might want to go younger than. That and

727
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 2: then the picks that they were, GETTING i, mean that's

728
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 2: a lot of picks for The Phoenix suns to give up.

729
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 2: FOR i know It's, durant but two good years Of Kevin,

730
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 2: durant three good years Of Kevin.

731
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: Durrant you're going for, it, right, really you're going for it.

732
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 2: And if it doesn't work out Then.

733
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 1: And they were giving Up. Bridges they're basically giving Upgrading

734
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 1: bridges For katie all the picks and then to.

735
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 2: Be there, Anyway, yeah they. Are they are getting off

736
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 2: And i'm not sure WHAT i guess they weren't giving

737
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 2: up any you, know That's, Bridges bridges, eight but a

738
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 2: lot of, Picks, yeah, yeah you, know four first round

739
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 2: picks and a bunch of swaps. THERE i kind of

740
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 2: hesitate from the The jazz side of things in that trade,

741
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 2: scenario AND i kind of hesitate from The sun side of.

742
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 2: THINGS i, know IT'S i, know IT'S i know It's

743
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 2: bridges and eight and they're gonna be. Fine but the,

744
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 2: picks it's a lot Of, yeah.

745
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: But this is a franchise that's never won a. Title

746
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 1: you Got Chris paul right, now you obviously Had booker

747
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,879
Speaker 1: and then you Have Kevin. DURANT i, mean that's your

748
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: your two three year. Window, no you can debate, like

749
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: does that get it? Done does that beat The? Warriors?

750
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 1: Still does that beat some of these other teams in

751
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 1: The Western conference and whoever comes out of The. EAST i,

752
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 1: MEAN i don't think it's like hand them a. CHAMPIONSHIP

753
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,839
Speaker 1: i agree with, That but holy, crap you've you've you've

754
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: improved your team Outing Kevin durant and your chance of

755
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: winning a. Title, yeah because he's a. SUPERSTAR i tweet, that.

756
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 2: Yas, yeah they are they a little thin after? THAT

757
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 2: i guess. NOT i mean it's it's a question who's

758
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 2: gonna play, four who's gonna play the five for that.

759
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 2: TEAM i know they think they can put In Bismack

760
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 2: meambo and they win the. Championship Jay crowder is Therefore

761
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 2: Cam johnson is still. There but, yeah they would be

762
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 2: going for it in a very very short window in

763
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 2: my opinion With Chris paul And. KATIE i, Know i'm

764
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 2: looking At Kevin durant of thirty four and maybe thinking

765
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 2: that he only has a couple of years, Left but

766
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 2: maybe he's got four years. Left, YEAH i mean he's.

767
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 2: Butter he is seven feet. Tall he can shoot over.

768
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,959
Speaker 2: Anybody maybe the worry about his last couple of years

769
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 2: being injured is kind of. Overblown i'm not.

770
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 1: Sure from The net side of, things it is wild to, think,

771
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: like let's say this happened and then they would Trade

772
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: kyrie to The, lakers because apparently that's. Happening our sources

773
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 1: In vegas say that's going. Down they're just, BASICALLY i, think,

774
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: deciding are we giving you two first round picks future

775
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: first round picks or one future first round pick in

776
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: terms Of westbrook And. KYRIE i think that's what we're at.

777
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: There but it would be wild to think that The

778
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: nets would have gone From Kevin, Durant Kyrie, irving And

779
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 1: James harden to in this Hypothetical Bobby mark's big trade,

780
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 1: There Donovan, mitchell Mckail, bridges And. Milester, well maybe it's

781
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: a better basketball team, honestly because guys. Play that, Helps but,

782
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: wow it's a bit of a downgrade when in terms

783
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 1: of just looking at the. Names, yeah guys that are

784
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: like top seventy five all.

785
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:17,760
Speaker 2: Time but it might be a better locker.

786
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 1: Room it MIGHT i, KNOW i know that it might

787
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: be the just.

788
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 2: Man, yeah it is odd this this past.

789
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: YEAR i ACTUALLY i like, this Like mitchell then with

790
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: the three AND d guy As super THREE D guy

791
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: in m Kill. Bridges you, Know turner getting a new

792
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 1: a new team to try and sort of rebuild up

793
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: his image in the. League, yeah actually, YEAH i. Know but,

794
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: anyway that's not, HAPPENING i guess.

795
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,439
Speaker 2: Not you, Know but the reason WHY i was starting

796
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 2: to buy into it is Because Bobby marks is not

797
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 2: just thrown around. TRAITS i don't, THINK i, KNOW i.

798
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 1: KNOW i, mean he's ON espn and you want some,

799
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 1: clicks you want your name out? There, yeah, Name mommy

800
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 1: And Chuck bobby.

801
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 2: Name so, yeah it's it's, Odd BUT i THINK i don't.

802
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 2: KNOW i don't know what gets done For Kevin durant

803
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 2: right The lakers nets one is kind of Simple westbrook For,

804
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:14,399
Speaker 2: irving which, is you, know. CONFUSING i don't know what's

805
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 2: gonna happen. THERE i, JUST i JUST i, YEAH i

806
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 2: don't think there's anything clean cut For Kevin durant quite,

807
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 2: yet is What i'm getting.

808
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: At but do you do you think it's impossible For

809
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: Donovan mitchell to be traded before we know what happens

810
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 1: With Kevin, durant because there are other reports that The

811
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: nets aren't Trained Kevin durant career, Too like don't, worry

812
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 1: like just let everything chill for the summer and we

813
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: can make this. WORK i, mean there's there are those.

814
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 2: REPORTS i don't buy those. REPORTS i think he gets traded. First,

815
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 2: right what do you Think Kevin durant gets traded Before Donovan?

816
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 2: MITCHELL i, guess BUT.

817
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 1: I don't think. SO i don't think so BECAUSE i

818
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 1: DON'T i think it's happening to The, knicks and The

819
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: knicks are not involved in any sort Of Kevin durant.

820
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: Sweepstakes and we've seen big trades. Already so you have

821
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 1: a baseline with The Rudy gobert trade of like how

822
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 1: many picks does it? Take type? Thing, yeah which you

823
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: know the jack are gonna like dig their heels in

824
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,280
Speaker 1: on that this Is Donovan. Mitchell he's better Than Rudy, gobert,

825
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: right you, know like if it TOOK x amount of

826
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: picks for, him is gonna take more than more for?

827
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: Him SO i Think. MITCHELL i Think mitchell's gonna be

828
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: traded tomorrow on our day off that we have penciled

829
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 1: in right, now SO i look forward to. That but

830
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: let's call it. THERE i, mean we went larry very

831
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 1: long On Donovan mitchell trade. Rumors let's hear from you

832
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 1: guys as we are right now in the. Stream team

833
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: love seeing. That let's hear your best trade. Packages of

834
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: all the ones we've talked, about the ones you like the,

835
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 1: most what do you think is the most? REALISTIC i

836
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: guess he's a. Favorite according To, vegas seems to know

837
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: everything about THE nba, lately and The knicks are of

838
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: course the favorite for him to land up on if.

839
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 2: Traded he also Wore i'd buy into this kind of.

840
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 2: Stuff he wore That raptor's jersey at a slam dunk?

841
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 2: Contest was it he?

842
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: Did you should have ever done, that by the, way

843
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 1: because he didn't do the dunk that.

844
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 2: Well, YEAH i forgot about. It But durant loved playing

845
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 2: TWO k with The Toronto. Raptors he Loves. Drake what

846
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 2: did he say he wanted to come there at once?

847
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,439
Speaker 1: One, yeah, yeah he said he was. Like The raps

848
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: were one of his favorite teams like when he was,

849
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: younger mainly because Of.

850
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 2: VINCE i remember being A raptor fan back then when

851
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,280
Speaker 2: when that kind of stuff happened and Just salava.

852
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,879
Speaker 1: That, yeah oh my, god AN nba player talked about.

853
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 1: Us that's not on our.

854
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 2: Team, yeah, yeah. Positively now we got these Weird Bruce

855
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 2: ard comments.

856
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: Happening you See vince shut that. Down SO i love That.

857
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 2: Vince i've never Seen Vince carter more.

858
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: Fired he was very fired up on the. SHOW i

859
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 1: didn't know that was the.

860
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 2: Thing me.

861
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: Neither, yeah for those that don't know what we're talking,

862
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: about What Chris brossard was basically on television shitting on

863
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: the idea of specifically black players wanting to play In.

864
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 2: Toronto Superstar African american players wanting to play In.

865
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: Toronto, Right, Yeah and he was saying how it was, like,

866
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 1: well they don't like that up up and there In

867
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 1: canada and all, that and it's not that it's not

868
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 1: a great environment for, them and like it literally contradicts

869
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: everything we've ever heard FROM nba players that Love, toronto

870
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: like this is the. Best and THEN vc was sticking

871
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:07,879
Speaker 1: up for. IT i mean we never even talked about

872
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: it on the show because it's, like, no there's no

873
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: need to this guy can't even spell, memphis, Right, hey.

874
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 2: Listen we all have our. Mistake we all make mistakes

875
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 2: writing stuff. DOWN i THINK i spelled. It we did

876
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 2: the old whiteboard game on the. STARTERS i spelled. It

877
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 2: it was a longer word than, memphis BUT i spelled that.

878
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 2: Incorrectly it was like intimidating or.

879
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: Individual but, okay that's an easier pass than. Memphis, Sorry,

880
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,280
Speaker 1: chris what the hell is he talking?

881
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 2: About you, know that's the bigger. Point, yeah what is

882
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 2: he talking?

883
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: About the only THING i could think of is That

884
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: Chris brussard once went To toronto and people like you suck,

885
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 1: man we hate your. Takes he's, like it's horrible.

886
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 2: Here there are some players who don't want to have

887
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 2: to pull out a passport a. LOT i MEAN i think.

888
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 2: THAT i think that's the.

889
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:57,879
Speaker 1: Point, well Apparently Pearson International airport in toronto's a zoo right. Now,

890
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: Yeah i'm going there. Soon i'm not looking forward. To

891
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: let's take our first break when we come, back play a.

892
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: Little is this? News don't go? Anywhere? Okay back in

893
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 1: The Classic factory, HERE i got the stream team debating who's,

894
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 1: Better Gordon hayward Or Ben SIMMONS i did not expect

895
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: that to go down, today but have at, it. Guys

896
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: let's play a. Little is this? News? Oh, OKAY? Jd? Yeah?

897
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: New is this? News?

898
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 2: Intro you CALLED jd out for the the level of

899
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 2: The No buns, stings The No buns? Animation, YEAH. Jd

900
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 2: DID jd get on it right after? THAT i guess

901
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 2: said ones were just so good in.

902
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 3: Comparison it's the, summer so it's time to, start you,

903
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 3: know improving. Things started messing around and, uh you, know

904
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 3: seeing throwing stuff at the. Wall see what.

905
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 2: WORKS i.

906
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,879
Speaker 1: Like it felt very. Newsy that's WHAT i like ABOUT

907
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: i love this. News, yeah? Okay is this news for

908
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,919
Speaker 1: those new to the. SHOW i give usually the, guys

909
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: but in this case tasks a headline here and you

910
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: tell me whether or not it's newsworth you you can

911
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: break it. Down first one from The Athletic Great, network great,

912
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 1: site get a, subscription go Thee athletic dot com slash

913
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:18,959
Speaker 1: no DUNCS nba discussing in season tournament beginning in twenty twenty,

914
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 1: three twenty four at. Earliest is this?

915
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 2: News it's news baby number, one regardless of the, tournament

916
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 2: regardless of the, format and all That Adam silver has

917
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 2: gained some trust with the other, side with the players

918
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,240
Speaker 2: because of how well the play in tournament has. Worked

919
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 2: play in tournament has worked really, well AND i think

920
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:44,479
Speaker 2: that it gives, you you, know a little bit of leeway. Here.

921
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: Fair but they're different beasts, though. Too one is talking.

922
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 1: Playoffs one is actually getting in to the thing that

923
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: you want to be in to win the damn thing

924
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 1: this you, know in season. TOURNAMENT i, mean we can

925
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 1: break it, down get into, it but, like you, know

926
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 1: are the players going to be that into? It are?

927
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: Fans i'm not.

928
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 2: Sure that's WHY i started my point with not talking

929
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 2: about the actual tournament of, itself because, Yeah i'm not

930
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 2: enthused about. It. Really the whole point of it is

931
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 2: eighty two games is. Long let's figure out a way

932
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,760
Speaker 2: to give a little juice to some of those. Games,

933
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 2: yeah and to a different part of the, calendar, Right

934
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 2: i'm talking about baseball on another show once a week,

935
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 2: here and that's also a. Problem one hundred six two.

936
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,320
Speaker 2: Games that's a different piece as. Well but that's everybody's

937
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 2: trying to figure it. Out everybody is trying to figure

938
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,800
Speaker 2: out how to change. It there is no baseball tournament,

939
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 2: happening but there may be AN. NBH i do also

940
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 2: find it hard to wrap my head around when what. Why,

941
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 2: yeah it's it's kind of. Tough if it's Around, christmas

942
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 2: it kind of makes sense to, me just because it's

943
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:59,399
Speaker 2: like time of, year people tuning. In it's, hard, Man

944
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 2: it's a very difficult. Thing BUT i do think it's

945
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 2: real in that they would give something a.

946
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 1: Shot they're gonna try. It, YEAH i. Agree that's WHY

947
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 1: i actually say this is not, newsworthy this is not.

948
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 1: NEWS i feel like we have been talking about this

949
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 1: idea for like four years running, now and we just

950
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: get the sort of the same headline over and over

951
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: and over. AGAIN i guess we just get closer and

952
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: closer to it becoming a. Reality within the, article it

953
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 1: said the tournament model would see eight teams entering a

954
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: single elimination round to determine the, winner with the final

955
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: four games occurring at a neutral. Site So march madness

956
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,720
Speaker 1: like vibes. There but then that leaves a lot of, questions,

957
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 1: like so how did we get to the eight? Teams

958
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 1: were they games from the regular? Season probably that you,

959
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: KNOW i believe the W nba does, This LIKE i

960
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 1: forget it's A Commissioner's. CUP i think they're like denoted

961
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: as like a special game that has impact on where

962
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: you sort of fall in this potential tournament that they

963
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: do and stuff like.

964
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 2: That, yeah that's what they would. Do we went to

965
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,080
Speaker 2: a W nba game and it was one of the

966
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 2: final dream yet and then looking at the schedu there

967
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 2: was four games on that day that were anointed The Commissioner's,

968
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 2: cup right, right, right and so, yes SO i GUESS

969
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 2: i was surprised seeing that on the, Schedule AND i

970
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 2: guess it would sort of be the same in THE,

971
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 2: nba where they would just be you, know it's kind

972
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 2: of working in the, background like you don't you don't

973
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 2: know when you go to a, game, sure or you

974
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 2: don't even know when you're watching a. Game it's just

975
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 2: part of this standing type.

976
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: Thing but, then if this is to be, believed the

977
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 1: single elimination, round these are these are games added to the. Schedule, yeah, right.

978
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 2: They are added to the, Schedule but a lot of

979
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 2: teams aren't playing these. Games there's only eight teams playing these.

980
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 2: Games SO i, think, yeah but this is the.

981
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: Issue aren't the teams that are, good the teams that

982
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: want to win a. Title the teams that are like

983
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: thinking about you, Know, April may And, june aren't they

984
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: going to be, like, sweet throw these? Games we got a?

985
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 2: Break, well, yeah it should come in combination with reducing

986
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 2: the schedule to seventy eight. Games even, right these teams

987
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 2: don't have to play more than eighty, two and then

988
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 2: some teams will only play seventy. Eight so you can

989
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 2: look at it and, saying, yeah we're gonna go win

990
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 2: these and we're only playing eighty two. Games, anyways even

991
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 2: if we get to the finals of this, tournament you

992
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 2: know WHAT i, mean if you reduce it to seventy, eight.

993
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: YEAH i Guess i'm. Concerned the whole point of these

994
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: tournament games within the season is one to drum up

995
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: more excitement for the games, Themselves like you, said, yes

996
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 1: to get us all, excited and let's be, honest to

997
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 1: GET tv broadcasters excited when you're doing the whole new

998
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 1: deal the television. Package look at the excitement around this

999
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 1: time of the season when it's usually. Dead now we have,

1000
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 1: This but, okay that's the plant that makes sense on.

1001
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 1: Paper but WHAT i just, Said i'm concerned the opposite

1002
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: happens where teams, players unless we you, know there's incentives

1003
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: really baked into winning this, tournament why would they give

1004
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: a shit about? This that's so it could then the

1005
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 1: opposite is. Happening now you just get a bunch of

1006
00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 1: people like us, saying what's the point of? This oh my,

1007
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: God curry's not even gonna. Play warriors obviously don't want

1008
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: nothing to do with this because they'd prefer The, Like

1009
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: i'm concerned about, that but can you come up with? Incentives,

1010
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: obviously compensation just straight up? Dollars how much does it, take,

1011
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 1: though for a guy that already makes forty million dollars

1012
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 1: to get him excited about you know the guys that

1013
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 1: are like the, tenth, eleven twelveth. Man, yeah an extra, million,

1014
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:27,760
Speaker 1: Sure but do the superstars? Care can you add regular season?

1015
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 1: Wins can, you, like if you win this? Thing is

1016
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: that insane to say you're giving x amount more wins

1017
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:39,879
Speaker 1: and that could help you understandings like playoff. Implications even win,

1018
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: this you are in the playoffs. GUARANTEED i, MEAN i don't, Know,

1019
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 1: like maybe you gotta get crazy with. That but then

1020
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: is that too?

1021
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 2: Far is that too much a draft? Pick you get

1022
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 2: a draft picking that first and second round to.

1023
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 1: Talk about, That, yeah first pick of the second.

1024
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 2: Round there's things to be worked. Out, yeah it's not

1025
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 2: now getting into, it it's not. Crazy but the additional

1026
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 2: games is the. Problem, yeah if you're playing eighty six,

1027
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 2: GAME i guess it's, three you'd be playing eighty five

1028
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 2: games if you go to the, finals you, know eighty

1029
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 2: two plus plus three. POTENTIALLY i don't. Know that doesn't

1030
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 2: make sense to. ME i always thought that it would

1031
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 2: go in tandem with cutting down the skeed to like

1032
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 2: seventy eight.

1033
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: Taking away gate, money taken away, games, yeah on television.

1034
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 2: Me, yeah but but the huge package that you'd get

1035
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:34,879
Speaker 2: from advertisers for, this you, know a little. Tournament, yeah

1036
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 2: the teams that cut two home, games because that's what

1037
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 2: you'd be losing if you went down to seventy eight

1038
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 2: games would have to be compensated some. Way you're, right

1039
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 2: they'd be. Pissed but if that can, happen plus, uh,

1040
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 2: yeah THE cba, package maybe there's more money you, know

1041
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 2: FROM espn OR tnt or, whoever so you, know getting

1042
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:58,879
Speaker 2: into the. Books maybe it works, out BUT i don't.

1043
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 2: Know it's it's it's, hard it's. Hard it's it's hard

1044
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 2: to wrap OUR nba minds around, this this soccer idea

1045
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 2: that That Adam silver.

1046
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,439
Speaker 1: Wants, YEAH i Think i'm just most. Concerned, look we're

1047
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 1: going to be watching, it like we'll be watching, it but,

1048
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: like are the players and teams really invested in the?

1049
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: Idea and you know, what maybe it becomes that the

1050
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: quote unquote bad teams are like they're into, it especially

1051
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 1: if there is some sort of draft incentive or stuff like. That,

1052
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 1: NOW i know people push. Back why would a player

1053
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 1: be excited about a draft pick who could potentially replace? Them,

1054
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 1: YEAH i get, it but it's gonna. Happen this is like.

1055
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: Coming there's no doubt and then it will be, like,

1056
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: well this is. Dumb get it out of? Here or

1057
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 1: can they grow on? It BECAUSE i saw a great

1058
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 1: COMMENT i was in the comment sections of this athletic

1059
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: article that we just pulled. Here there's a lot of

1060
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: bad ones, too there are there were some good, ones

1061
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: And alex w wrote give them some credit. Here THE

1062
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: nfl for years wanted to add a seventeenth. Game no

1063
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 1: one really wanted, to but there was money to be.

1064
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: MADE mlb keeps adding playoff teams even though it's core

1065
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 1: fans don't really want, that but there is money to be.

1066
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: Made unless someone proves To Adam silver that the risks

1067
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,800
Speaker 1: of adding a midseason attorney outweigh the potential for profit

1068
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 1: from a NEW tv, deal most likely a part of

1069
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: a bigger. Package LIKE i, said it's going to, happen

1070
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 1: and given that the play in game is here to.

1071
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: STAY i bet once we get this midseason, attorney it

1072
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: stays two, money money. Money he's not.

1073
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 2: Wrong if it works, out, sure, yeah, Yeah, well seventeen

1074
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 2: games is fine for THE. Nfl it's just one more

1075
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 2: Game Major League. Baseball it's interesting expanding the playoff. Format

1076
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 2: does it dilute the? Now too many teams are making the?

1077
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 2: Playoffs hundred sixty two? Games do they matter? Less? Now

1078
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 2: this THE nba is a little different in that we're

1079
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 2: still playing eighty two ish. Games you, know it's just

1080
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 2: a little bit of a little bit more of a

1081
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 2: marker on the. Calendar you, know one, thing one thing

1082
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 2: from you, know the middle Of. October then There's, christmas

1083
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 2: then there's The Alstar, game then there's, playoffs and then

1084
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 2: the stuff that happens in the. Offseason when does this thing?

1085
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:10,439
Speaker 2: Happen it's the early.

1086
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 1: Season, well it has to be like you're, saying it's gotta,

1087
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: BE i would Guess december Or. January, yeah because then

1088
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 1: you get To All star weekend In, February you've got you,

1089
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: know the trade. Deadline like you're fine in terms of

1090
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 1: like eyeballs and interest in the, sport but there is

1091
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 1: that little that little pocket. There that's when you would do.

1092
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: IT i think games would start like if we if

1093
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 1: we're doing it like THE wnba, style they start counting

1094
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 1: maybe as early As november or something like. That you

1095
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 1: give the teams a couple of weeks to get, going

1096
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:37,839
Speaker 1: and then it's, like, Ok.

1097
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 2: January january makes. Sense there's a little bit of a

1098
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 2: bit of a blip on the. SKEED i was. WRONG

1099
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 2: i Said, christmas that's it's too, early and it's already you,

1100
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 2: know interest is skyrocketed right then and, There so, Yeah

1101
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 2: january kind of makes. Sense that would be the only.

1102
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 2: Time you're not doing it In. March you're not going

1103
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 2: up Against march, madness you're not doing In. April the

1104
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:57,839
Speaker 2: other makes.

1105
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: Up what about giving the team that eventually wins this

1106
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: in season tournament the ability to pick their opponent in

1107
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:06,839
Speaker 1: the playoffs if they were to make, it and Then

1108
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: i'll go on step further if you are not a playoff,

1109
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 1: team but you won this. Whatever The rockets win it

1110
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 1: because they really, are you, know, trying and maybe the

1111
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: other teams aren't as much that they they hold like

1112
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 1: a money in the, bank like they get. This they have,

1113
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 1: this like they're not going to make the. Playoffs they

1114
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 1: can either hold onto it for like a year or

1115
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 1: two until they, do or you could even like trade

1116
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 1: it to another team for draft compensation or something like,

1117
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 1: that or straight up money LIKE i don't, know sort

1118
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 1: of fun at a little wrestling angle to.

1119
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 2: It, well it is if it's a, draft if they

1120
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 2: win a draft, pick then you could trade. IT i, think, yeah,

1121
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 2: yeah there's but.

1122
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 1: That's like a that's an incentive that isn't that far

1123
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,760
Speaker 1: fetched to, Me like the ability to pick your. Opponent,

1124
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:51,919
Speaker 1: YEAH i, MEAN i know.

1125
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,280
Speaker 2: You have to make playoffs number. One well, yeah, okay

1126
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 2: so what if you're a seventh or eight seed in the,

1127
00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 2: Playoffs well you pick your pick pick because from, ANYBODY.

1128
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 1: I like, that you're gonna pick the seventh seed four

1129
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 1: win the? Tournament come, on what stakes on this?

1130
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:10,839
Speaker 2: Thing it's not Bad.

1131
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 1: Sea we were spitballing. Here let's different the stream, team

1132
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:16,439
Speaker 1: all the podcast. Listeners best, ideas uh if if they're

1133
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 1: even needed in your, opinion to incentivize teams really like

1134
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 1: wanting to win this, thing Because silver's just he's infatuated

1135
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:27,720
Speaker 1: with like the the soccer, style the football style In, europe,

1136
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 1: Right but the comparisons sort of they fall flat a

1137
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 1: little bit because, like AND i Wish lee here was

1138
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,399
Speaker 1: to really break it down for, me but like they're

1139
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 1: they're coming from different leagues to play in these sort

1140
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: of like little tournaments for things like this is this

1141
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 1: is all the same teams in the same, league and

1142
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 1: there's already a goal of this. League it's to win the.

1143
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 1: Championship so it's. Different, Yeah SO i think there has

1144
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 1: to be an incentive of some sort for, players, money,

1145
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 1: teams whatever picks playoff. IMPLICATIONS i think there's gonna.

1146
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 2: Be SOMETHING nba having done it.

1147
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 1: HELPS i would love to hear from a W nba.

1148
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 1: Fan is it is it? Working how big is the championship? Trophy?

1149
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:11,399
Speaker 1: AGAIN i hope it's not like The All Star GAME.

1150
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: Vp my, god it's like a tea cut that was

1151
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 1: For Kelsey plumb. There, okay next, HEADLINE jd throwing it

1152
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: at task and everybody here in the stream team Real, Jim,

1153
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: yeah aggregating this, ONE i believe From Jake fisher and Bleacher,

1154
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 1: Report lakers And heat expressed trade interest In Patrick. Beverly

1155
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 1: is this?

1156
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 2: NEWS i like it for The, Lakers, OKAY i think

1157
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 2: they need that type of. Player look at The lakers

1158
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 2: offseason and what they've. Done it's it's it's. THAT i,

1159
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 2: mean they're.

1160
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:44,959
Speaker 1: Trying they're.

1161
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 2: Trying they have no room with what they've done last.

1162
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 2: Year they're they're taking flyers on guys who have been desired.

1163
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 2: Before Lonnie walker could be, good but they lost a

1164
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 2: league monk at the same. Time, Right that's that's a

1165
00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 2: that's a. Problem Thomas, Bryant Troy. Brown they're, Trying.

1166
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 1: But, god you remembered what The lakers, Did because when

1167
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 1: you said, It i'm, like what the hell they've done?

1168
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 2: THAT i Think i'm missing somebody. ELSE i Guess Scottie

1169
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 2: pippen A.

1170
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 1: LAKER i, think, well, yeah you're right right right for,

1171
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 1: Now Patrick.

1172
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 2: Beverley What i'm getting at is you insert him into

1173
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 2: a team that needs perimeter defense number one that's, big

1174
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 2: doesn't need the, ball but can hit a. THREE i

1175
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 2: think a three point percentage goes up playing Beside lebron

1176
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,800
Speaker 2: And Anthony, davis who That's they're probably The lakers' biggest

1177
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 2: addition this. Offseasons Anthony davis getting in, shape getting in the,

1178
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 2: gym will hopefully play a, Lot SO i think he.

1179
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 2: Fits they need somebody like look at all the guys

1180
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 2: who they've had working around The, lakers working Around lebron for.

1181
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 2: Years beverly could be that guy and he's, old perfect.

1182
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:50,240
Speaker 1: In the league a. Decade Patrick beverley. Missing he missed

1183
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 1: two seasons of his like young career playing In russia And,

1184
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 1: greece was it or something like?

1185
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 2: That, yeah maybe a little is No, russia Definitely russia to.

1186
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 2: START i think he played in other, places you.

1187
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 1: Got, It greece And. Russia, Yeah i'm sure he bounced.

1188
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 2: Around, okay but, yeah good stuff the. HEAT i don't

1189
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 2: like that. One. Okay what they need they need a

1190
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 2: guy who can get a. Bucket they Have.

1191
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 1: Kyle yeah, Right they got Enough beverly type. Vibes, Yeah, OKAY.

1192
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 2: I know he didn't have a great. Season they've Got

1193
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 2: Gay Vincent Is he's just gonna take Gave vincent's time

1194
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 2: like that doesn't make a lot of sense to. Me

1195
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 2: they haven't they have enough of. That what do you?

1196
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 1: Think can you have too many dogs on a? Team?

1197
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 1: Yeah do the dogs turn on each?

1198
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 2: OTHER i mean you have a, dog you tell?

1199
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 1: Me, Yeah, well my dog loves, dogs SO i guess

1200
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 1: some dogs love to be around other. Dogs some do

1201
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 1: though he LOOK i, honestly he'd be fine. There you

1202
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 1: know what you're getting With Patrick, beverley that's that's. Great

1203
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 1: you're getting ten points and he will hit an open

1204
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 1: three or, two and you're getting a lot of chatter

1205
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 1: and you're getting great. Defense so The lakers could use

1206
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 1: it a lot more than The Miami. Heat, now he's

1207
00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 1: got one year left on his current con track thirteen million,

1208
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 1: dollars so The lakers should be aggressive for, him if

1209
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 1: you forgot by the way he plays on The. Jazz, yes,

1210
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 1: yeah he was traded To patrick uh Obviously Rudy gobert.

1211
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 1: Trade so he is. There and and within this report

1212
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 1: From Jake, fisher it was like we were like zeroing

1213
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 1: in On Donovan mitchell of, course but Apparently Danny aingel

1214
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 1: and As anak there they're like everybody's. Available who do

1215
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 1: you want? Anyone we just trade it for you can

1216
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 1: have them make us a. Deal, so you, know are

1217
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 1: The lakers, though trading one of these like coveted future

1218
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 1: picks seven twenty Nine Patrick? Beverly like are they that?

1219
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 2: Desperate they're? Desperate, yeah they should try not to Because

1220
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 2: Padrick beverley again is not, young.

1221
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 1: But so are the trading tail And hortant well did

1222
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 1: there's a great name going. AROUND i think it's A

1223
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 1: SpongeBob beam and it's like the top part is it

1224
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 1: says all reliable and then he's opening up this little

1225
00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 1: like briefcase basically or whatever it, is and then somebody

1226
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:05,439
Speaker 1: plastered In Kendrick, Nunn Taylor Horton tucker and then one

1227
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 1: like twenty seven first round pick like that always that's

1228
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 1: all The lakers have to offer. Anybody, yeah and it's

1229
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 1: like not the not the sexiest package you get to put.

1230
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 1: Together but, NO i mean, YEAH i think you can

1231
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 1: still Get Patrick. Beverley don't get me, WRONG.

1232
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 2: I don't Think Rob polenka is giving up a first

1233
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 2: round pick with with how he's been playing hardball somewhat

1234
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 2: Since Russell westbrook became part of their. Team but maybe

1235
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 2: you can squint and, say, hey if If kyrie comes

1236
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 2: over and we get a draft pick, there.

1237
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 1: Get a draft pick. There, YEAH i think you're given

1238
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 1: up draft.

1239
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 2: Pick probably giving up draft, picks BUT i don't. Know

1240
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 2: strange stuff Happens beverly makes.

1241
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 1: Sense he'll probably find his way to The.

1242
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 2: Lakers yeah It jazz cut him Even, YEAH i.

1243
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 1: Was gonna SAY i can't see him, suiting BUT i do.

1244
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 2: Not.

1245
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 1: Maybe all, right final headlines, Here i'm gonna put two

1246
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 1: of them together because they're both contract, extensions both FROM

1247
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 1: espn And Pat conaton agreed to a three, year twenty

1248
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 1: eight point five million dollar. Extension he's played baseball, too

1249
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 1: great great, arm he got a. Hurle and then the

1250
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 1: other one is The nuggets And Contavious Caldwell pope agreed

1251
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 1: to a two, year thirty million dollar contract. Extension and,

1252
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 1: again just to refresh everybody's, MEMORY, kcp he came over

1253
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 1: to The Denver nuggets in The wizard's trade. There he

1254
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 1: was On washington last, year so this will be his

1255
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 1: first year In, denver playing Alongside. Yokichen he signs the extension.

1256
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 1: Here what are your thoughts on either of These Day, newsworthy.

1257
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 2: You're down WITH kcp damn, RIGHT i. Am i'm happy for.

1258
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 2: Him he was talking About lakers who played really well Around.

1259
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 2: Lebron he led The lakers in postseason threes when they

1260
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 2: won the. Championship that guy was money from out. There

1261
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 2: and now he's getting more money because people thought he was,

1262
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 2: overpaid you, know getting that contract because he was With. Lebron,

1263
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 2: Yeah Rich, Paul Rich. Paul but he earned it and

1264
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 2: he's earned this and, he you, know is a perfect.

1265
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 2: FIT i think on The Denver nuggets. Team he should

1266
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 2: work really really well With. Kitchen.

1267
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 1: YEAH i, mean if you can, shoot if you.

1268
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 2: Can, shoot and he's gonna help on the defensive, end.

1269
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 2: Yep and he's you know when people think about AND

1270
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 2: i talked about trying to get a guy like this

1271
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 2: Around Jalen, Brentson Donovan mitchell potentially In New, york a

1272
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 2: three AND d guy that just does his. Job it's like,

1273
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 2: Him Danny, green you, know in his, Prime like they

1274
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 2: just do it and they get out of the way

1275
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 2: in terms of trying to handle the. Ball this is

1276
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 2: going to work out. Well and then The Pat connington

1277
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 2: deal he opted into his contract for next season you,

1278
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 2: know whenever the date was recently for only five point seven,

1279
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 2: million people wondered he could probably get more money on

1280
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 2: the market for. That, well it was a handshake agreement

1281
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:53,920
Speaker 2: right to get this. Extension later got one of their boys,

1282
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 2: Back Champ pat, back because he's part of the rotation

1283
01:01:57,040 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 2: when they want. It he is very very solid, offensive rebounding, threes,

1284
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 2: Defense he does the.

1285
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 1: Job, YEAH i MEAN i, think, well they've proven it.

1286
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 1: Right both the guys are like solid pieces to a championship.

1287
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 1: Team you, know they're by no means, superstars but they.

1288
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 1: Are they are great obviously starters or guys off the

1289
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 1: bench that are giving you solid minutes and they just

1290
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 1: come out and do their job for the most. PART,

1291
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 1: KCP i, Know wojah in the article hit some great

1292
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:26,479
Speaker 1: numbers from His stats And info. Team there cacp forty

1293
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 1: one percent catch and shoot three point shooter over the

1294
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 1: past two, years ranking in the top ten among the

1295
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 1: fifty nine players to attempt five hundred of those, threes

1296
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 1: so high, volume he's one of the. Best and THEN

1297
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 1: kcp shot forty four point eight percent on open three

1298
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 1: pointers last season With, washington which ranked him in the

1299
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 1: top ten among players with one hundred and fifty. Attempts,

1300
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 1: again you put that Beside jokich and a bunch of

1301
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 1: attention on Hopefully Jamal murray And Mike Porter junior if he's.

1302
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:56,440
Speaker 1: Healthy there's a role there if you can just continue

1303
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 1: to knock it down at forty percent clip and then

1304
01:02:58,120 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 1: help on the DEFENSE, nd which they really.

1305
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 2: NEED i didn't like. IT i don't know about those

1306
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 2: stats the last couple of, years but it kind of

1307
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 2: proves my point there that he does his role and

1308
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:08,479
Speaker 2: kind of gets out of the. Way he's the New Danny, GREEN,

1309
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:12,200
Speaker 2: Imo LIKE i don't know's there's probably more of those

1310
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 2: guys That i'm, forgetting But Danny green's getting a little

1311
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 2: a little long in the, tooth AND kcp isn't as

1312
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 2: streaky As Danny green and. Whatever, yeah you, know like

1313
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 2: just guys that, yeah catch and shoot numbers are those are.

1314
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:27,480
Speaker 1: Films aren't ridiculously. Good and it's also great that, like,

1315
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 1: yeah he may we, name we may not be talking

1316
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 1: ABOUT kcp all the, time but don't. Worry he's got

1317
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 1: a great, agent so he gets them paid for for whatever.

1318
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 1: REASON i don't know. Why at the breakfast table this,

1319
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 1: MORNING i Told, Nora SO i guess she, said, like

1320
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 1: what are you guys talking about? Today, oh we're really

1321
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 1: leaning heavily on The Donovan mitchell trade, rumors but a

1322
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 1: couple of other things, happen AND i just like for some, reason, said,

1323
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 1: UH kcp is signing a contract extension for two years thirty.

1324
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 1: Millions what who's? That why is he getting fifteen million

1325
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 1: dollars per? Year so that's that's the going? Rate this

1326
01:03:59,920 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 1: is where we are right like, THIS i mean it's

1327
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:04,880
Speaker 1: a lot of money to all of, us but, yes

1328
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 1: not in THE nba. Anymore like this is like a

1329
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 1: totally fine extension him And pat.

1330
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 2: COMMENTED i like the idea of you And nora is

1331
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 2: sitting around the table talking about deep role players and

1332
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:17,920
Speaker 2: how much money they're. Making do you Find nora has

1333
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 2: been a little bit more interested in what you do

1334
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 2: recently BECAUSE i Find danielle has kind of upped her

1335
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 2: desire to give a crap about basketball players just more For.

1336
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 1: Dora, no that's very low, still if we're being honest's.

1337
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 2: It's more than my wife talking About, well.

1338
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 1: She just asked what's happening here? Today and then that's

1339
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 1: probably was looking at her, phone checking out the latest half, one.

1340
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 2: Dudes but that's way more Than Danielle wouldn't Care, ANYWAYS i,

1341
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 2: Said Bobby mark's a good. Agent name what If Bobby

1342
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 2: mark's got that? CONTRACT i think you're really in on.

1343
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 1: There come, On.

1344
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:55,240
Speaker 2: BOBBY i know you're great ON, espn.

1345
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 1: But, Okay Bobby bucks great.

1346
01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:58,960
Speaker 2: In the front, office great as an.

1347
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:01,200
Speaker 1: Agent does it sounds like you want to be the

1348
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:05,920
Speaker 1: agent for the crowd Tas millie is greatlaire all, right

1349
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 1: we'll take one more break when we come, back, though

1350
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 1: stick around for this one BECAUSE i was scrambling at

1351
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 1: first to find a solid tweet of the night and

1352
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 1: our guy ghost Face Tom zillert just coming through in

1353
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 1: the clutch this morning with with a banger of a

1354
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,440
Speaker 1: tweet that's going to get the people. Talking don't go?

1355
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 1: Anyway all R, Right, WELL i was gonna, say all,

1356
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 1: right welcome, back let's get the.

1357
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 2: Tweet of the. Night, wow it.

1358
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 1: Would actually be a great way to come back from.

1359
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 1: Breaks just say a RANDOM nba beat, writer all, Right Ira,

1360
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:54,040
Speaker 1: winderman and that just means we're. BACK i like. THAT

1361
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:56,480
Speaker 1: i might have to add on to. That, okay it's

1362
01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 1: tweeter the, Night LIKE i, SAID i was a little

1363
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 1: WORRIED i didn't have a good, one and then our

1364
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 1: guy ghost Based. Zilla why CAN'T i speak? Suddenly what's going?

1365
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 2: On Ghost? Faces? Now i'm not going to work Team.

1366
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:16,320
Speaker 1: Zilla you guys KNOW i always call him ghost Face.

1367
01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 1: ZILLA i have been for, years but for some, REASON

1368
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 1: i can't talk. Suddenly uh here's the TWEET. Lrt you

1369
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:23,480
Speaker 1: know that stands for. Tests.

1370
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 2: GOD i want to know so, bad BUT i.

1371
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 1: DON'T i think it's last, retweet so it's like about

1372
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:31,280
Speaker 1: the last retweet that he. Had.

1373
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 2: Yet oh, Man i'm feeling flashing back to the empty.

1374
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 4: Days, Okay, well the tweet says From ziller Are Andre,

1375
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 4: Kirolenko Gerald, wallace And Early rondo the most had to

1376
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 4: be their players of this.

1377
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 1: Millennium. Okay, now in his, Newsletter ziller sort of explained

1378
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 1: it a little bit. BETTER i think this tweet maybe

1379
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 1: went out late last, night but, anyway he, wrote WHAT

1380
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:58,280
Speaker 1: i mean by you had to be, THERE i mean

1381
01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 1: that mere, stats narrative, descriptions or highlights cannot fully explain

1382
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 1: what the player meant in real. Time sure you can

1383
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 1: Say Gerald wallace dunked hard average two steals and two

1384
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 1: blocks all for the most ignored team of the, decade

1385
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 1: but that in no way captures the vibe Of Jared

1386
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 1: wallace in two. Thousands so this is what he's looking for.

1387
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 1: HERE i love this.

1388
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 2: NOW i brought Up Gerald wallace a few weeks. Ago,

1389
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 2: yeah just from the crowd here in the, studio just,

1390
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:28,479
Speaker 2: said you're bringing Up Gerald. Wallace he had to be, there.

1391
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 1: Player had to be. There so there were a couple

1392
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:34,320
Speaker 1: like replies That zilla was reacting. To So i'm gonna

1393
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:38,040
Speaker 1: give you a couple people were Saying Brandon. Roy ziller, says,

1394
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:41,640
Speaker 1: no he's. Timeless Travis, outlaw you had to be.

1395
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 2: THERE i was high On Travis outlaw. Too you had

1396
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 2: to be. There, Yeah.

1397
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 1: Okay Baron davis was brought up To. Ziller he, Said

1398
01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 1: Baron davis as a core player of a, team you

1399
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 1: had to be. There Baron davis as a highlight, machine. Timeless,

1400
01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:59,240
Speaker 1: OKAY i think that does make some. Sense people brought

1401
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:03,880
Speaker 1: Up jeremy you had to be, there that's What that's

1402
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 1: What ziller, says you had to be, there because he

1403
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 1: says no documentary can capture the. Moment but then he

1404
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 1: Says lynn is a player, timeless But lin sanity. Itself,

1405
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 1: yeah you had to be. THERE i love. That and then,

1406
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:19,000
Speaker 1: uh just the final. ONE i Liked New Jersey, Nets Richard.

1407
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:23,559
Speaker 1: Jefferson you had to be. There you agree with? That, yes, okay?

1408
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:25,720
Speaker 1: Okay and do you have any one else you would

1409
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 1: add to this? List that's the best part of this.

1410
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 1: Question and for everybody in the stream, team you had

1411
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:32,920
Speaker 1: to be there players generally we're probably, talking you, know

1412
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:33,840
Speaker 1: early two.

1413
01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 2: THOUSANDS i kind of disagree that The Brandon roy is

1414
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 2: timeless or or Even i'm gonna lump him into the

1415
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:46,120
Speaker 2: same boat like A Derreck, rose you, Know BULLS mvp type.

1416
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 2: Season can people really appreciate What Brandon roy was looking?

1417
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:52,800
Speaker 2: BACK i don't think. So, okay he was on the

1418
01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:55,120
Speaker 2: way to be A hall Of, famer And Derek, rose

1419
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:58,479
Speaker 2: the highlights are there you look at, him BUT i don't,

1420
01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:00,639
Speaker 2: know you kind of had to be, there Like Jeremy,

1421
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 2: lynn where you're just on this. Ride you're feeling like

1422
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:06,760
Speaker 2: you're on this roller coaster into heaven with the with

1423
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:08,120
Speaker 2: these guys like they are going To.

1424
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 1: The problem is Like Derrick rose is like still like

1425
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 1: talked about A tony because of The chicago, roots you,

1426
01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:17,720
Speaker 1: know landing eventually with the next. EPISODE i think that's

1427
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 1: Like Derek rose is like like, legacy both the good

1428
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:22,439
Speaker 1: and bad of it is like never going to be.

1429
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:26,880
Speaker 2: Forgotten, yeah But Jeremy lynn still talked about years after

1430
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 2: and you just you can't. REPLICATE i guess that's the.

1431
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 2: Part you can't have to do that feel. It, yeah

1432
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:31,600
Speaker 2: you had to be.

1433
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:33,839
Speaker 1: There there's some some great ones flying through here.

1434
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:35,760
Speaker 2: On.

1435
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:39,880
Speaker 1: Clark, wow, Wow, wow what a poll great. One that's

1436
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 1: not a bad one at his. PEAK i mean it

1437
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:44,160
Speaker 1: was short. Lived this one's a funny one From Tommy

1438
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:48,679
Speaker 1: Bismack biambo in The Eastern conference. Finals had to be, there, okay,

1439
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 1: Yeah Mo williams.

1440
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:52,800
Speaker 2: Says Rap stallion fifty point.

1441
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:57,920
Speaker 1: Game, YEAH i mean, Yeah, like DID i have to

1442
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 1: be there to? SEEM i probably FIND i don't think. So,

1443
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:02,760
Speaker 1: Yeah i'm gonna.

1444
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:05,679
Speaker 2: Pass do you need you need more of a longer?

1445
01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 2: EXPERIENCE i mean the Keyan clark and not a big.

1446
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 2: One just got excited as A raps. Fan well that

1447
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:12,599
Speaker 2: wasn't a very long.

1448
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:17,519
Speaker 1: Tenure, no, no, no how about DF r AND T Underscore,

1449
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:20,559
Speaker 1: Hughes corey mcgetty's. Arms you have to be.

1450
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 2: There he's still around he is the arm still.

1451
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:31,520
Speaker 3: Great what About matthew Della, Vandova now, YEAH.

1452
01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 2: I just feel like he he doesn't want to be.

1453
01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 1: There, NO i, know you, guys the players are not

1454
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:36,800
Speaker 1: on the level That i'm, like when you say, That,

1455
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 1: Dame i'm, like oh, Yeah Richard jefferson Net hell, yeah

1456
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 1: those those were some.

1457
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:42,600
Speaker 3: Good One but it's sort of like linsanity in a.

1458
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:46,840
Speaker 3: Way he's just like on fire for that one fire.

1459
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:49,320
Speaker 2: One.

1460
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:52,519
Speaker 3: PLAYOFFS i heard of this. Guy ALL i heard about

1461
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:56,200
Speaker 3: Was Matthew, delavandova AND i never heard from him, again right,

1462
01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:57,040
Speaker 3: right that's like.

1463
01:10:57,040 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 2: A fair point when they're up to. One he was

1464
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:01,280
Speaker 2: The curry STOPPER i can get while you're you're in

1465
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:05,080
Speaker 2: the control room and you hear this name over and over.

1466
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:07,840
Speaker 1: And YEAH i had to be in the? Finals Uh

1467
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:10,920
Speaker 1: Rudy gay On? Memphis did you have to be?

1468
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:15,719
Speaker 2: THERE i, say, No, Okay i'm not terribly against.

1469
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 1: It what else you? Got we had A Oj. MAYO

1470
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:23,400
Speaker 1: i saw people Saying Michael, beasley but it was more

1471
01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:25,800
Speaker 1: Like Ky State Michael beasley and And zilla had a

1472
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:28,559
Speaker 1: great back and forth With Paul flannery about like college

1473
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:30,280
Speaker 1: guys that we have to be there that's a whole different,

1474
01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:36,200
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Speaker 2: Mayo that was a great flash in the pan For Oj. Mayo,

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Speaker 2: YEAH i was riding. HIGH i even liked him in.

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Speaker 2: College if that's a.

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Speaker 1: THING i don't know if You seph is trying to

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Speaker 1: troll me, Here Mike, bibbie did you have to be?

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Speaker 1: THERE i wanted to be as far away from it as.

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Speaker 1: POSSIBLE i was. There we were, There Ben gordon for The.

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Speaker 1: the ones That ziller had are like the real, banger

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Speaker 1: like The Kierlenko, Klanko Joe wallace. Too what about what,

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Speaker 1: okay what About michael red mm in the sense that

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Speaker 1: he's completely forgotten about Fair this guy averaged over like

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Speaker 1: a five year, span like twenty five twenty six points

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Speaker 1: per you each, Year like take the average of those five.

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Speaker 1: Years he was averaging twenty seven one. Year that's pretty.

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01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:37,519
Speaker 1: Crazy and he didn't make An All star. Team he

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Speaker 1: made one made one.

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Speaker 2: Had a fifty seven point, game right, yeah, yeah SO

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01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:45,720
Speaker 2: i had him and, then, uh you had to be.

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Speaker 1: THERE i think this was a really good. One Flip

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Speaker 1: murray when he had that little month explosion for The.

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Speaker 1: Sonics if you played, back if you played uh fancy,

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Speaker 1: Great those guys were those three guys That zilla listened

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Speaker 1: some of these guys are like aliens playing. Basketball m,

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Speaker 1: Tweet When zilla can take his own tweet and flip

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Speaker 2: ask you about.

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01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:14,360
Speaker 1: IT i find it gets a little cold in here

1526
01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:18,400
Speaker 1: when we got that ac blasting it, does but then

1527
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Speaker 1: having it off because the noise it makes and doing

1528
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:24,639
Speaker 1: a show for an hour and a, Half i'm sweating

1529
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:27,519
Speaker 1: my ass off right. NOW i wonder WHAT i wonder

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Speaker 1: IF i should honestly start with the hoodie on first commercial?

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Speaker 1: Break take it off could be a. Move WOULD i

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Speaker 1: confuse people that are somehow you, know consuming the show

1533
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:38,360
Speaker 1: AND i.

1534
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:41,519
Speaker 3: Think they'd put two in. Two we could also just

1535
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:43,479
Speaker 3: leave it. Up we had it on for a show

1536
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:46,200
Speaker 3: before nobody complained the air.

1537
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Speaker 1: Conditioning, yeah IT'S i think it's louder to us than

1538
01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:53,439
Speaker 1: it is to the people watching and. Listening for some,

1539
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:55,439
Speaker 1: reason it sounds so loud to, me even there was

1540
01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:57,360
Speaker 1: a lawn mower outside we were just talking about before

1541
01:14:57,360 --> 01:14:58,679
Speaker 1: the start of the, Show LIKE i feel like people

1542
01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:01,360
Speaker 1: can't even hear it to, Us it's Like, god that's.

1543
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:04,679
Speaker 2: Distracting, yeah, well the quality you put OUT. Jd no. Ones,

1544
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:07,960
Speaker 2: well the only person's gotta complain about it is. You,

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01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 2: yeah no one out there is gonna complain because our

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Speaker 2: quality is. Good, okay good to.

1547
01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:18,400
Speaker 1: Great, well now we got these new animations coming to

1548
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1549
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1551
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 1: quality of the, podcast you, know the crisp sound like

1552
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:34,519
Speaker 1: me butchering and not being able to. Talk leave us

1553
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:37,040
Speaker 1: a five star rating in review On, Apple, spotify wherever

1554
01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:39,240
Speaker 1: you download and listen to our. Podcast, okay so no

1555
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:41,599
Speaker 1: show In theory tomorrow, though LIKE i, Said Donovan mitchell

1556
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 1: will be, traded so we'll probably see you in the

1557
01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:46,240
Speaker 1: stream yard at some point. Tomorrow but if he, isn't

1558
01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:50,439
Speaker 1: we'll be, BACK i believe On monday next. WEEK tk

1559
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:52,639
Speaker 1: should be back here in The Classic factory with. Us

1560
01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:54,280
Speaker 1: we've got a lot of fun things lined. Up No

1561
01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:57,400
Speaker 1: bunks will be back some Other tray's got a really

1562
01:15:57,439 --> 01:16:00,080
Speaker 1: fun idea that hopefully is gonna flesh out. There so,

1563
01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:04,760
Speaker 1: yeah No dunk's coming at you all throughout the. Summer you. Know,

1564
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:07,160
Speaker 1: really we're not taking like guys are taking time. Off

1565
01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:08,960
Speaker 1: but for the most part of the show is going to, continue,

1566
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:10,479
Speaker 1: right four or three times a.

1567
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:13,840
Speaker 2: Week that's the beauty of multiple. Hosts that's.

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01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:16,559
Speaker 1: Right it sucks FOR, jd.

1569
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 2: But multiple hosts.

1570
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:23,400
Speaker 3: Already sometime we did five shows while we Were, oh calm.

1571
01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:26,960
Speaker 1: ON i specifically Remember Andrew schleckt filling in for, You,

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01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:35,800
Speaker 1: okay who Was, yeah for a better. Vacation, yeah you've

1573
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:37,280
Speaker 1: never felt later at the end of.

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01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 3: It best Sleep i've ever. Had Michael jackson was onto

1575
01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:45,240
Speaker 3: something that killed, him but it really did put me.

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01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 2: Out.

1577
01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:52,240
Speaker 1: Okay on that, Note Clipper. BROS i wasn't ready it.

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01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:54,960
Speaker 1: Again Clipper. Bros you heard it here. First have a great,

1579
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:57,640
Speaker 1: time turn, Up love you guys, Awesome.

1580
01:16:57,720 --> 01:17:01,040
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining. Us and remember that part Of Michael

1581
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:04,680
Speaker 2: jackson's life was not part of The Michael jackson. Circus soil,

1582
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:07,320
Speaker 2: hell wasn't.

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01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:11,800
Speaker 3: It there's some sort of, UH i got to break

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01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:14,600
Speaker 3: that show, down just like symbolisn't happening the.

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Speaker 2: Place oh, yeah like when the doctor came out with his,

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Speaker 2: kills

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Speaker 1: Embraced the day people