WEBVTT - Sen. Ted Cruz (R) Texas & Sen Katie Britt (R) Alabama Talk IVF

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<v Speaker 1>Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio News.

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<v Speaker 2>Joining me now are Republican Senators Ted Cruz of Texas

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<v Speaker 2>and Katie Britt of Alabama. Thank you both for joining

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<v Speaker 2>Bloomberg Television.

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<v Speaker 3>Here in New York.

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<v Speaker 2>You're out with a joint up ed this morning in

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<v Speaker 2>the Wall Street Journal the title visit will protect both

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<v Speaker 2>life and IVF. You're announcing a bill today through this

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<v Speaker 2>legislation that would require as a condition your words of

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<v Speaker 2>receiving federal medicaid funding that states don't prohibit IVF. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>concerns about IVF stemmed really, Senator Britt, from your state

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<v Speaker 2>of Alabama.

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<v Speaker 3>The Supreme Court came.

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<v Speaker 2>Out they said that these embryos in iff they are

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<v Speaker 2>considered children under the Wrongful Death of a Minor Act.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Alabama legislator moved past the bill that would

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<v Speaker 2>protect IVF. So why is a national bill needed if

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<v Speaker 2>the legislator just acted on behalf of basically telling the

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<v Speaker 2>Supreme Court in Alabama that's wrong and this is not

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<v Speaker 2>where the American people are.

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<v Speaker 4>Unfortunately, we've seen a number of people try to fear

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<v Speaker 4>monger on this very issue, and so Ted and I

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<v Speaker 4>came together and we believe this effort should be bipartisan

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<v Speaker 4>to make sure that every parent across the country who

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<v Speaker 4>wants to bring life into this world and maybe struggling

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<v Speaker 4>with infertility or others, but wants to use IVF to

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<v Speaker 4>create the miracle of life it bring it into the world,

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<v Speaker 4>has a certainty that that's going to be available to them.

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<v Speaker 4>And so we're excited about it and believe that it's

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<v Speaker 4>something we can move forward and move forward quickly.

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<v Speaker 3>Saat Gruzman.

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<v Speaker 2>Why wouldn't Republicans sign up for Senator Duckwertz bill earlier

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<v Speaker 2>this year, which then actually would have protected what happened

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<v Speaker 2>in Alabama.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, because that bill is a very different bill. That

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<v Speaker 1>bill really seeks to backdoor in broader abortion legislation, which

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<v Speaker 1>is where the Democrats are.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's not IVF.

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<v Speaker 1>Our bill is very simple, and it's very focused, and

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<v Speaker 1>it is designed to protect IVF. IVF is miraculous medical technology.

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<v Speaker 1>It enables millions of parents to have children, to be moms,

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<v Speaker 1>to be dads of live bursts in America right now

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<v Speaker 1>today come from IVF. It's incredible, and both Katie and

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<v Speaker 1>I agree that IVF is incredibly pro family that we

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<v Speaker 1>should be standing and helping parents who want to raise kids.

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<v Speaker 1>And what happened when the Mama Supreme Court decision came out.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a lot of confusion, there was a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of fear, There was a lot of misunderstanding, and people

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<v Speaker 1>did not want anything to threaten IBF. I agree with that,

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<v Speaker 1>Katie agrees with that, and so we came together and said,

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<v Speaker 1>let's draft a simple, straightforward federal bill that creates a

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<v Speaker 1>federal right that you, as a parent, have a right

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<v Speaker 1>to have access to IVF. If you want to have

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<v Speaker 1>a child and you need medical assistance to do so,

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<v Speaker 1>that should be your right. This is a bill I

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<v Speaker 1>think that should be overwhelmingly bipartisan. The Senate should pass

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<v Speaker 1>this bill one hundred to nothing. We'll see if they

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<v Speaker 1>do or not, but on the merits, that's what should happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Center Duckworks bill though talked about, and it clearly asserts

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<v Speaker 2>that this is about quote assisted reproductive technology and ensure

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<v Speaker 2>ability to cover those procedures. So in that case, do

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<v Speaker 2>you guys think Democrats you can get a bipartisan legislation,

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<v Speaker 2>why not just work with Senator Duckworth.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it depends the way the Duckworth Bill is written.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very broad. There's a reason that no Republicans supported

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<v Speaker 1>it because it was ostensibly about IVF. But whatever, it

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<v Speaker 1>was written to give the federal government authority over abortion,

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<v Speaker 1>potentially to strike down laws governing abortion and states all

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<v Speaker 1>across the country. And that I get, that's the Democrats' agenda.

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<v Speaker 1>And unfortunately, why.

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<v Speaker 2>Not have bipartisanship on both because overwhelmingly Americans if but overwhelmingly,

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<v Speaker 2>and you come from states that have very restrictive abortion policies.

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<v Speaker 2>Even majority of Republicans think abortions should be able to happen, rape.

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<v Speaker 3>Incessant life of the mother. That's not true of both

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<v Speaker 3>your states.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Listen, abortion is an issue that there are sharp disagreements.

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<v Speaker 1>People of good faith and good morals disagree, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>why the Supreme Court has said this is a question

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<v Speaker 1>for the states, and every state decides it differently. If

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<v Speaker 1>you look at our constitution, that's the way we decide

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<v Speaker 1>really difficult issues of public policies. We leave it to

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<v Speaker 1>the voters, and that reflects and respects democracy. IVF is

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<v Speaker 1>very different. Nearly ninety percent of Americans believe IVF should

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<v Speaker 1>be protected. So what we're trying to say is look,

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<v Speaker 1>let's find an area of common ground. We're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to find complete agreement among all one hundred senators on abortion,

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<v Speaker 1>We're just not. People have different views. That's the beauty

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<v Speaker 1>of a democracy that we can have different views. But

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<v Speaker 1>on IVF, we ought to be able to unify everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>We ought to be able to get Republicans and Democrats

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<v Speaker 1>together and say this technology enabling people to be parents

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<v Speaker 1>is wonderful technology and it is pro family. So there

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<v Speaker 1>are issues on which we disagree, but this is one

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<v Speaker 1>where we can find common ground.

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<v Speaker 3>I very much hope and I hope so too.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, we actually wrote this in that way so

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<v Speaker 4>that it would be very measured and simple and to

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<v Speaker 4>the point, protecting IVF, protecting family's ability to bring life

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<v Speaker 4>into this world. And we both have talked to a

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<v Speaker 4>number of friends and family me and others constituents that

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<v Speaker 4>tell us their story about being able to bring a

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<v Speaker 4>child into this world through IVF and so making sure

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<v Speaker 4>that we protect that in a way that protects religious

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<v Speaker 4>freedom and liberty and families and others, I think is

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<v Speaker 4>critically important. And that's what we've done here, and we

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<v Speaker 4>hope to gain some momentum on it.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess some of the concerns from some hard right

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<v Speaker 2>members of your party would be is an IVF embryo

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<v Speaker 2>considered life at conception?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, look, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Can tell you that there is unanimity. I believe all

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred Senators support IVF. I don't know a single

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<v Speaker 1>Senator that does not. I don't know a single Republican

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<v Speaker 1>that does not. I don't know a single Democrat that

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<v Speaker 1>does not. We ought to be able to find real

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<v Speaker 1>agreement on a question like IVF, you know, you talk

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<v Speaker 1>about as Katie mentioned, she and I both have dear

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<v Speaker 1>friends who had their children through IVF and their wonderful parents.

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<v Speaker 1>They love their their daughters, their sons. That's an amazing thing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. You look at since the development of IVF,

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<v Speaker 1>there have been over eight million babies born through IVF.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a fantastic thing, and so many families have

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<v Speaker 1>been brought joy. That we ought to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>find agreement, and I think we will. I hope we will.

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<v Speaker 2>But in the discussion of IVF, abortion comes up, and

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<v Speaker 2>majority of Americans are on the side of that least

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<v Speaker 2>abortion should be allowed, especially in certain cases of rape, incest, life.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the mother.

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<v Speaker 2>So with that in mind going into this election season,

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<v Speaker 2>how do you think about abortion, because that for Democrats

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be one of the main rallying cries

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<v Speaker 2>to get voters out as well as tapping funding.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it also should be for Republicans.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, Henry, when you say that, I think the

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<v Speaker 4>majority of Americans also believe you should not be able

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<v Speaker 4>to take the life of a child the moment before

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<v Speaker 4>the child is born. Should there be a federal plan

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<v Speaker 4>that we saw We saw Democrats vote just the last Congress.

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<v Speaker 3>To be able to do that.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, when you talk to people and you talk

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<v Speaker 4>about a child and a woman's womb at thirty nine

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<v Speaker 4>weeks and actually aborting that baby, the majority of Americans

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<v Speaker 4>to agree that shouldn't be able to happen on American soil.

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<v Speaker 4>So the problem is the Democrats are trying to deflect

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<v Speaker 4>by how extreme they are in this position, and I

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<v Speaker 4>think we're going to keep coming back to it, and

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<v Speaker 4>I think where Americans are.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you say the Democrats are extreme in that position,

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<v Speaker 2>and you want to have this IVF bill, and you

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<v Speaker 2>think Duckworth potentially was too far on the margins coming

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<v Speaker 2>into abortion, then would you be open to a bipartisanship

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<v Speaker 2>bill when it comes to things like rape incess life

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<v Speaker 2>of the mother.

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<v Speaker 1>So what I would say is today's Democrat position in

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<v Speaker 1>the Senate is incredibly extreme. What Katie just told you,

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<v Speaker 1>every single Democrat in the Senate supports unlimited abortion, partial

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<v Speaker 1>birth abortion literally. But it is so hennery. It actually

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<v Speaker 1>is true because they all voted for it. That we

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<v Speaker 1>had a bill lest Congress that would strike down every

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<v Speaker 1>limitation in the country and that would legalize abortion literally

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<v Speaker 1>until the moment of birth. That is such an extreme position.

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<v Speaker 1>Nine percent of American CDC.

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<v Speaker 3>Data though there are not abortions in America.

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<v Speaker 1>But every Democrat supports Actually, there are late term abortions,

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<v Speaker 1>and every single Democrat.

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<v Speaker 3>Voted extreme circumstances.

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<v Speaker 1>Every single Democrats supported it, and ninety one percent of

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<v Speaker 1>Americans disagree with that. The vast majority of people who

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<v Speaker 1>consider themselves pro choice, say, listen, late term abortion, abortion

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<v Speaker 1>in the thirty ninth or fortieth week. That that is barbaric.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the position of every single Democrat, which is

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<v Speaker 1>why they don't want to talk about their position. What

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<v Speaker 1>they want to do instead is scaremonger and IVF. They

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<v Speaker 1>want to suggest those mean, Republicans want to take away IVF. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's have an area of complete agreement. Let's make

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<v Speaker 1>clear IVF is fully protected by federal law.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think Democrats agree with you on there, and I.

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<v Speaker 1>Will will back on this.

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<v Speaker 2>So all of them want we will abortion till.

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<v Speaker 1>But that is how they voted. I mean, at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the day, what you vote for matters.

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<v Speaker 3>And they did vote that way. And that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 4>I just had the Secretary of HHS in front of

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<v Speaker 4>US at and Appropriations hearing and I ask him about

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<v Speaker 4>this administration not putting the heighth Amendment in their budget requests,

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<v Speaker 4>something that's been bipartisan for years, and moving that forward.

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<v Speaker 4>And then I had actually talked to a woman who

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<v Speaker 4>performed one of these aborde at thirty nine weeks right

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<v Speaker 4>before walking into there.

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<v Speaker 3>She told me.

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<v Speaker 4>About how barbaric that is about delivering the baby breach,

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<v Speaker 4>about putting a knife up that baby's spine, opening it up,

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<v Speaker 4>pulling out the brains, collapsing the skull, pushing that baby out.

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<v Speaker 4>So it actually does happen, and unfortunately every Democrat voted

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<v Speaker 4>to continue to allow that to happen. And the thing is,

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<v Speaker 4>we have a duty to continue.

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<v Speaker 3>To talk about that.

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<v Speaker 4>We're one of eight countries on the entire planet that

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<v Speaker 4>allows for that.

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<v Speaker 3>So are you both calling for national ban?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there is an existing law that ban's federal partial

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<v Speaker 1>birth abortion. It's the Democrats that are calling for changing

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<v Speaker 1>the federal law to legalize partial birth abortion. They voted

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<v Speaker 1>for striking down every restriction. But understand here, listen, we're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to this morning resolve all the disagreements on abortion.

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<v Speaker 1>People have very strong, good faith views from places of

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<v Speaker 1>deep emotion and personal experience. That's part of the beauty

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<v Speaker 1>of democracy. That that's part of the genius of the framers,

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<v Speaker 1>as they recognize when there's the questions we have disagreements about,

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<v Speaker 1>let the voters decide. And you would expect the state

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<v Speaker 1>of New York to have a different resolution than the

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<v Speaker 1>state of Texas or the state of Alabama. And we've

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<v Speaker 1>got fifty states. But what we can do is say,

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<v Speaker 1>are there issues where we have agreement, and IVF is

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<v Speaker 1>one of them. This bill is designed to protect something

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<v Speaker 1>that is incredibly important, to give comfort to parents who

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<v Speaker 1>and to those who desperately want to be parents who

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<v Speaker 1>are scared and they're picking up the newspapers or watching

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<v Speaker 1>on TV politicians saying someone's going to take away IVF. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>this bill will make clear it will be enshrined in

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<v Speaker 1>federal law. You have a right to access to this technology.

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<v Speaker 2>It's also very political going to election, and actually one

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<v Speaker 2>of your staffers said that to the Washington Examiner. And

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<v Speaker 2>as we head into the election center, Bert, I have

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<v Speaker 2>to ask you. Since you're with us, your name continuously

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<v Speaker 2>be floated as this potential VP pick for former President

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump. What is the current dialogue between you and

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<v Speaker 2>the Trump campaign.

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<v Speaker 4>Look, I am working diligently on behalf of the people

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<v Speaker 4>of Alabama in the United States Senate. We have a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of work to do there, and I'm eager to

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<v Speaker 4>continue that work and I'm proud to be a part

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<v Speaker 4>of it.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no doubt that.

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<v Speaker 4>The American people want Donald Trump back in the White House.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean we are seeing that at every single poll

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<v Speaker 4>because people want a secure border, they want safe streets,

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<v Speaker 4>they want stable prices, and then that's what he's going

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<v Speaker 4>to bring to the White House. So I'm going to

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<v Speaker 4>continue to work diligently alongside Ted to bring common sense

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<v Speaker 4>solutions to the problems facing our country.

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<v Speaker 3>And certainly honored to be able to do that. But

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<v Speaker 3>if he calls you accept listen.

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<v Speaker 4>I am sure he has a long list, many of

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<v Speaker 4>which are our colleagues, and we're rooting for them for sure.

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<v Speaker 4>Bottom line is, we're going to all do everything that

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<v Speaker 4>we can to get Donald Trump back in the White

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<v Speaker 4>House and also take back the Senate because the fate

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<v Speaker 4>of our nation is at stake and we believe that

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<v Speaker 4>that's worth fighting for.

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<v Speaker 2>Republican Senator Ted Cruz, Senator Katie Britt of Alabama, thank

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<v Speaker 2>you so much for both of you for joining us.