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Speaker 1: Welcome to Daily Variety, your daily dose of news and

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Speaker 1: analysis for entertainment industry insiders. It's Thursday, January eighth, twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty six. I'm your host, Cynthia Lyttleton. I am co

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Speaker 1: editor in chief of Variety alongside Ramin Setuda. I'm in

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Speaker 1: the world covering the business of entertainment. In today's episode,

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Speaker 1: in our cover story segment, we'll hear from Variety's Daniel Diderio.

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Speaker 1: He's delivered us an incredible profile of the one and

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Speaker 1: only Jody Foster, and it goes deep. She really opened

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Speaker 1: up to him on a number of things in a

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Speaker 1: rare in depth interview with this Oscar winning artist, and

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Speaker 1: Mark Malkin brings us a Just for Variety red carpet

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Speaker 1: rundown from this week's Golden Eve gala tied to the

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Speaker 1: Golden Globe Awards, Sarah Jessica Parker and Helen Mirren celebrated

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Speaker 1: for their long careers and their good work in the world.

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Speaker 1: But before we get to that, here are a few

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Speaker 1: headlines just in this morning that you need to know.

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Speaker 1: Paramount isn't giving up the fight David Ellison's studio continues

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Speaker 1: to press to acquire Warner Brothers Discovery. It has doubled

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Speaker 1: company is significantly better than the offer that Warner Brothers

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Speaker 1: has agreed to with Netflix. Analyst Laurent Yun of Bernstein

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Speaker 1: and Co. Says Paramount needs to go higher than thirty

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Speaker 1: of the arms of Netflix. The Television Academy has created

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Speaker 1: a new kudo called the Legacy Award. It will honor

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Speaker 1: industry end quote. The Academy is keeping its options open

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Speaker 1: on when it will hand out this Legacy Award. It

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Speaker 1: the EMI telecast itself, or the Television Academy's Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame ceremony, or the Televerse FYC event that the Television

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Speaker 1: Academy launched last year. The Pit will be back for

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Speaker 1: season three. That's not a shocker at all, but congrats

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Speaker 1: to Noah Wiley, John Wells and company. All of these

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Speaker 1: stories and so much more can be found on Variety

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Speaker 1: dot com right now and now it's time for conversations

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Speaker 1: with Variety journalists about news and trends and show business.

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Speaker 1: Now we'll hear from Daniel de Dario, Variety's chief correspondent.

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Speaker 1: He details all that he learned after spending quality time

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Speaker 1: late last year with Jodi Foster. His fabulous cover story

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Speaker 1: thanks again for joining.

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Speaker 2: Me, Thanks as always for having me.

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Speaker 1: Well, you always deliver great profiles, but you really outdid

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Speaker 1: came away knowing a lot more about somebody that I

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Speaker 2: Very well known people and people who don't speak very often.

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Speaker 2: Jodie Foster is from a past era of celebrity where

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Speaker 2: she's not on social media, for instance, She's not constantly

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Speaker 2: And happily she did. She's a very thoughtful person and

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Speaker 1: So many threads here to pull on, But the thing

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Speaker 1: On top of everything else, Dan, she looks absolutely amazing.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, I appreciate it, and I really encourage everyone

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Speaker 1: Variety's Mark Malkin, who connected with Sarah Jessica Parker on

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Speaker 3: Thanks Cynthia. Sarah Jessica Parker isn't exactly saying no to

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