1 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,439 Speaker 1: Hike and everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: the Bengals boot Podcast. The I get knocked down, but 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: I'll get up again. Addition, as Dave Lapham joins me 4 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: to discuss the Bengals first scrimmage of training camp. With 5 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: no preseason games, NFL teams have to do some tackling 6 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: at practice this year, and we'll tell you who stepped 7 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: up when the Bengals started knocking teammates down. Plus, I'll 8 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: talk to former NFL GM Charlie Casserleigh, now with the 9 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: NFL Network and NFL dot Com. If he had been 10 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: in charge of the Bengals going into this year's draft, 11 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: would he have taken Joe Burrow or traded the pick? 12 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: He'll answer that question. And finally, this week's one on 13 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: one player interview is with c j Uzama, now the 14 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 1: old man in the Bengals tight ends room. Those were 15 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: his words, not mine. The Bengals Booth podcast is presented 16 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: by Prime Sport, the official fan, travel and hospital fatality 17 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: partner of the Cincinnati Bengals. And here's a quick reminder 18 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: that you can have the latest edition of this podcast 19 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: delivered right to your phone, tablet, or computer by subscribing 20 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: an Itune, Stitcher, Google Play, Spotify, or pod Bean. It's 21 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: the greatest thing since a golf lesson. I love golf, 22 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 1: and at various points in my life I've been a 23 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: decent player, certainly not great, but somebody who could pretty 24 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: consistently shoot in the low eighties with the occasional round 25 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 1: in the seventies. Well not this year. I stink so 26 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 1: much so that when I've had the chance to play, 27 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: I've wanted to sell my clubs at the end of 28 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: the round. So this week I broke down and took 29 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: a lesson from my friend Doug Martin, the former PGA 30 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: Tour player who is now the head coach at UC. 31 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: It was awesome and in one hour I felt like 32 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: I was back on track. So if you're a struggling golfer, 33 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:05,559 Speaker 1: don't give up. Take a lesson. After just one hour, 34 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: I think that I no longer stink. Now, let's get 35 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: to football. On Friday morning, Joe Burrow faced his biggest 36 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,679 Speaker 1: test of training camp to date as the Bengals held 37 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 1: their first scrimmage. The rookie quarterback even got tackled by 38 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: a Gatorade cooler that Burrow tripped over on a scramble 39 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: out of bounds, Joe cool hopped right up and after 40 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 1: everybody breathed a huge sigh of relief, the Cooler was 41 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: quickly yanked out of the way. That occurred on the 42 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 1: third play of an eleven play touchdown drive. Quite a 43 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: start for Joe Burrow, and Dave Lapham joined me to 44 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: talk about it when the scrimmage was finished. Lap at 45 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:51,959 Speaker 1: the NFL scouting combine, we learned Joe Burrow's hand size. Well. 46 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: Now after seeing them scrimmage for the first time, we 47 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: need his jacket size for the gold jacket that he's 48 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: going to get going into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. 49 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: I'm obviously being facetious, but he was really impressive today. 50 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: He was out there for five drives in the scrimmage. 51 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: The Bengal scored three touchdowns and two field goals on 52 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: those drives. Now, I should point out on the field 53 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,679 Speaker 1: goals he started at the opponent's thirties, so what would 54 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 1: be known as the red zone. Plus didn't get any 55 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: first downs on those two drives, so those are really 56 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 1: wins for the defense. But still by my stats, thirteen 57 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: for nineteen overall, a pair of touchdown passes to add 58 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: and Tate and a very impressive showing, very impressive Dan. 59 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: And you know, Zach has got a scoring system on 60 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: these scrimmages where the defense can score points. I mean, 61 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: if they hold the offense to a field goal like 62 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: they did, the offense gets three, the defense gets four. 63 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: So you know, and then if the defense gets to 64 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: takeaway at seven points at the offense touchdown at seven points. Today, 65 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: I think of the letters C or the scrimmage that 66 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: took place. I take the letter C, not meanings. He 67 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: grated to see just the letter C. Because the dude 68 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: had complete command. He was in total control of things. 69 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: He communicated everybody. He did not look like a rookie 70 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: quarterback whatsoever. A couple of defensive coaches that I had 71 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: a chance to speak with like a long distance, you know, 72 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: I said, what's your take on Burrow? A kid can play. 73 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 1: I mean, he's a player, there's no question about it. 74 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: He is. He's impressed everybody. And when you look at it. 75 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: In the scrimmage, Joe Burrow didn't have a lot of 76 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: his weapons. You know, A J. Green was not in 77 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: the mix whatsoever. T Higgins not in the mix whatsoever. 78 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 1: John Ross not in the mix whatsoever, varying reasons for that. 79 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: Joe Mixon only played in one little part of it 80 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: that was not live tackling. It was thump drill. Giovanni Bernard. 81 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: Didn't see Giovanni Bernard out there very much at all, 82 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: if any that I could recall. So, I mean Tyler 83 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: Boyd and no, no, not gonna play. You know, took 84 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: care of guys on defense too, like you know Geno Atkins, 85 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: he didn't. He didn't see the football field defensive tackles 86 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 1: he protected. You don't want to lose dj Reader. You 87 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 1: don't want to lose Daniels. You don't want to lose 88 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: you know, there are no defensive tackles to get anywhere, 89 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: and they've already lost one and Rent. So I think 90 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 1: they were very smart about the whole thing. But back 91 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 1: to Burrow with the offense, So what did he do? 92 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: Oddent Tate had a day because Joe Burrow, Alex Ericsson 93 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: had a day. It's like, hey, these guys are NFL players. 94 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: I know they're gonna do their job. I'm gonna do 95 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: my job. Those guys stepped up and when he gave 96 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 1: them opportunities to make plays, they rewarded them. The thing 97 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: that Odd and Tate showed today Dan, that he's shown 98 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: him forever is his billion to fifty fifty ball. It's 99 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: twenty five at worst. With him, he's like a like 100 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: a tremendous rebounder. I mean he gets position, uses that 101 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: big body and man he and right now Joe Barrow 102 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 1: already saying if you're I'm going to you if you 103 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: don't catch it, I'm no, you're not gonna let the 104 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 1: defense make a play on it. The ball is going 105 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 1: to go on the ground if you don't catch it, Joe, 106 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 1: the ball is going to hit the dirt. It's not 107 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: going to be in a defensive player's hands for an interception. 108 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: So you can already see the trust and confidence that 109 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 1: those guys have built up. And you know you mentioned 110 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: it in one of our training camp reports. The dynamic 111 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: between Tyler Boyd and Joe Burrows is building because they're 112 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: taking so many snaps together. I'm excited to see when 113 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: he gets all of his weapons. I mean, you know 114 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: the number ones as such, it wasn't it wasn't the 115 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: number ones really when a lot of the number ones 116 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 1: projected number ones for Verus and the sundry reasons weren't going. 117 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: Boyd and Bernard were out there on that very opening 118 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 1: drive with the thumping, not the tackling, but that was 119 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 1: pretty much it for those two guys. I do want 120 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 1: to go back to the very first drive of the 121 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: day for Joe Burrow was an eleven play touchdown drive. 122 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: He was six for six, but the first two plays 123 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 1: were runs by Joe Mixon. They did not pick up 124 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: a first down. So now it's third down. Burrow drops 125 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: back to pass pretty good pass rush, takes off and 126 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 1: runs for the first down to keep that first drive alive, 127 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: and then methodically marches them down the field. That's another 128 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: aspect of his game that's going to come in very handy. 129 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: There's no doubt, Dan. I mean, you know, Lamar Jackson 130 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: was MVP because he could beat you throwing the foot bone. 131 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: He can beat you with his feet, you know, Joe 132 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: Burrow it does not have the speed in the athleticism 133 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: of Lamar Jackson. I'm not trying to make a comparison there, 134 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: but what I am saying is when things start to 135 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: break down, he has enough foot speed enough make you miss, 136 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: you know, enough suddenness, enough quick twitch to extend to 137 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: play and extend to drive create plays, and yeah, I 138 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: mean Joe Burrow has the ability to make plays with 139 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: his feet as well as his throwing arm and in 140 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: his brain. More importantly, most importantly is he understands the 141 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: game of football. He sees the field so well and 142 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: he diagnoses what he's looking at so quickly. He makes decisions, 143 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: very very sure decisions in a very expedited fashion. Man 144 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: he gets the ball out. He's a very impressive kid 145 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: to watch. He was not perfect. On one drive, he 146 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: had c j Uzama open in the end zone after 147 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: buying a little bit of time and scrambling to his right, 148 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: he missed him when he was open in the end zone. 149 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: On the very next pass, he threw a touchdown to 150 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: Odd and Tate, so no damage done there. But he 151 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: also threw a very dangerous pass at one point, rolling 152 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: out to his left, pointed down field to one of 153 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: his wide receivers, and then tossed a deep ball down 154 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: the middle of the field that'll get intercepted a lot 155 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: in a regular NFL game. And then thirdly, there was 156 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: a deep ball to Alex Ericson who was open and 157 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: Joe didn't really step into it that much, kind of 158 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: floated it down the middle of the field and didn't 159 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: get it out there far enough for Alex Ericson. Yeah, 160 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: it didn't lead him quite enough, and it had a 161 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: little bit too hung in the air, a little bit 162 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: a little bit too long. But the thing where I 163 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,839 Speaker 1: think he is, I mean really fun to watch when 164 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: we're watching from behind the offense, like we're allowed to do, 165 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: watch from the end zone, and we're standing on the 166 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: field to play. And I like that because I can 167 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 1: see the protections, I can see holes develop, you know, 168 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: in the running game and all that. But I can 169 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: also see Joe Burrow, what he's doing when he slidesteps 170 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: and what he's looking at and when he throws that 171 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: football in the intermedi it ranges. It is impressive where 172 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: he's putting that ball. I mean it is tight windows. Man. 173 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: It's like that's the only place he could have put 174 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: it to get their completion he got and he put 175 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:14,319 Speaker 1: it right there. I mean dime, big time dime. So 176 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: that that part of it is where you make your 177 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 1: bread and butter in the National Football League, And you know, 178 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: he led the led college football in quarterback rating under 179 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: pressure and completion percentage under pressure and he was second 180 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: in all of college football throws twenty yards and war so, 181 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: I mean he can do both. I mean he can 182 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 1: hit that short and met it stuff with the best 183 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: of them, but he can he can get those chunk 184 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: plays for you. And on the drives we talked about, 185 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: you know, the numbers that he put up, he chunked him. 186 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: He had a few chunk plays in there. You know, 187 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: it's not like it was screen passes, nickel and dime stuff. 188 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 1: You know, tight end on a hitch. I mean, he 189 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: chunked him pretty good. I'll tell you where he's especially accurate, 190 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: in my opinion, on those slants like seven to ten 191 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: yards slant he hits the guy in stra He was 192 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: really effective on those, to Mike Thomas and Auden Tate 193 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: and you know, Dan, there's there's a lot of times 194 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 1: there's going to be traffic there and if your receivers 195 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: like don't throw, don't hang me out to dry, don't 196 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: make me stretch out for that thing. When those guys 197 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: run those routes, they're running them with such confidence that 198 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: Joe's gonna hit me where I know, he's not gonna 199 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: put me in danger. He's going to deliver the ball 200 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: where I can make a catch on it, and I'll 201 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: still be able to protect myself from that from that 202 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 1: big hit, because you know, all it takes is a 203 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,319 Speaker 1: slant or two were you know, the defensive backs counting 204 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: the receiver's ribs. I think I'll hit him between rib 205 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: three and four on this one, and it come back 206 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 1: said hell, like, dude, don't do that to me again. 207 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: You know, receivers to a quarterback, and Joe's I think, 208 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: very very aware of that, and he puts the ball 209 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: right where it should be put. For sure. I didn't 210 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: see Geno Atkins at all. Carlos Dunlap and Sam Hubbard 211 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: were out there a decent amount. Carl Lawson played a lot. 212 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 1: I don't remember seeing DJ reader. Mike Daniels was out 213 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: there a little bit, says Zach Taylor. Obviously a reader 214 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: a little bit too, says Zach Taylor. Was obviously resting 215 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: and protecting some of the big name defensive lineman, particularly 216 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: the veterans. But with all of that in mind, how 217 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: did the offensive line do? In your opinion? I thought 218 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: they did pretty well. And uh, you know, Joe Williams 219 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: to me, it's encouraging to watch him play. He has 220 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: what I call football character, and it's it's not just 221 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: you know what he says, because some guys talk a 222 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 1: good game, you know, but then can you go out 223 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: and play in the dude? He is. He is a focused, 224 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: you know, dialed in, grinded out guy, and he's he's 225 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: getting his reps against Carlos Dunlap when he's in there, 226 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: or carl Lawson. Pretty good combination. And like we said, 227 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: you know, I mean his first two games, Joey Bosa 228 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: and Miles Garrett. I mean, he was drafted by the 229 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: Bengals to block guys like Miles Garrett one on one. 230 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett was drafted by the Cleveland Browns to beat 231 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: guys like Jonah Williams one on one. And Miles Garrett 232 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: got a second contract already a biggie and Jonah Williams, 233 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: you know, at the eleventh pick of the draft. Bengals 234 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 1: are counting on him to be a plug and play 235 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: guy for a decade or more. They're gonna be playing 236 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 1: against each other a ton. But he gets those two 237 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: guys in one hundred hours, you know, Sunday at four 238 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: o'clock and then you know, Thursday night at eight o'clock, man, 239 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: a chevits that's but I think he's going to be 240 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: able to handle it. And I liken it to the 241 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: first time I played against Joe Green. It was my 242 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 1: personal Super Bowl. I mean I was so geeked up, man, 243 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: I could have picked the stadium up that night. Joe 244 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: is not the game to Joe is who's this? You know? 245 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: And I'm thinking, you know, everybody's expecting Joe to kick 246 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: my butt and if I block him a few times 247 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: and gonna be like, Oh, who's this dude? You know, 248 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: it was easy hung in there with Jonah. Has to 249 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: have that mindset. Everybody's gonna be watching Joonah Williams go 250 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: against Joey Bosa who just got the big deal, and 251 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: then Cha Miles care tops that or vice versa. It's 252 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: like they're They're the two highest paid pass rush edge 253 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: rush in the game. Jony gets to prove himself right away. 254 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: It's a big opportunity. I think he's going to handle 255 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: it that way. And watching him out there in practice, 256 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: he's preparing that way, not just every single day, every 257 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: single snap and a couple of times, you know, I 258 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: saw like an emotional reaction from him. So I'm sure 259 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: on the field he was exulting a little bit, you know, 260 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: after touchdowns, and there's nothing wrong with that. He and 261 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,559 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan, Michael Jordan was doing some of the same thing. 262 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: I think that left side could be pretty decent, I 263 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: really do. I mean they're young, you know, I'm both 264 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: second year guys, but Jone aren't even playing his first 265 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 1: year and Michael's played some and really grew, and now 266 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 1: those two could be a nice tandem for a decade plus. 267 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 1: On that left side. You should have just given me 268 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: and Joe Green a coke. He would have taken it 269 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: easy on you, coking a smile. Following up on the 270 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: old line, they did have some pre snap penalties today, 271 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 1: so Jim Turner will be barking about that the next 272 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: offensive line meeting. And you know, Dan, it's like Zach 273 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: addressed it when we talked to him after the scrimmage. 274 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: It's like, you're gonna be led in because Michael had 275 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: one early and I could he was so jacked up. 276 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: He came off the ball and tried to knock the 277 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 1: linebacker into next week. So I mean, that's that's part 278 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,599 Speaker 1: of that is really obviously you have to be you 279 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 1: have to have a controlled rage. As the way I 280 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: used to describe it, I'd go into a game thinking 281 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: that this guy tried to rob my house and do 282 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: something bad to my family. That's the way I hated him. 283 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: I wanted to destroy the guy. And you're all jacked up, 284 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: geeked up, ready to go. But then you have to 285 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: be controlled enough where you're just not frenzied, you know, 286 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: running around assignment errors bats, you know, not in a snapcount. 287 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: It has to be a controlled rage, a controlled frenzy, 288 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: and sometimes balancing those two things, you know are a 289 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: little different, but yeah, they'll get cleaned up. Those things 290 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: will get cleaned up. Ball can't be on the ground, 291 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: you know. You don't want to see any of that. 292 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: You don't want any assignment errors, any mental errors from 293 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: that standpoint, and Zach initially, I think, was pretty pleased 294 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: with that. I did see a free runner that an 295 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: offensive lineman get taken out of the scrimmage over and 296 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: was replaced. So there's going to be very little tolerance 297 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: for those kind of things because you certainly don't want 298 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: to be the guy who let him inside linebacker with 299 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: a straight be line to your quarterback Joe Burrow and 300 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: hit him. Was open up a new canad quarterbacks. You 301 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: don't want to be that guy. You'll never live that 302 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: one down. So at a diner you got the special 303 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: of the day. That's kind of how it feels right now. 304 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: With the Bengals starting linebackers, it's like, all right, who's 305 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: on the menu today? To start a linebacker and for 306 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: the scrimmage with the ones. The first two guys today 307 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: were veterans Josh Bines and Jordan Evans, but after that 308 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: it was shuffle him in and out, mix and match. 309 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: That continues to be the theme so far. Did anybody 310 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: look particularly good to you today? You know I still 311 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: continue to like you know, both Logan Wilson and Davis 312 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: gaitheror I mean they do flash, they can they can 313 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: really run, they can really run around. Now again it does. 314 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: I'm not as tuned in, haven't been a former offensive player. 315 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: I'm kind of tuned into looking at it from an 316 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: offensive linement perspective. Was there in assignment or I'm not 317 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: as in tuned Okay, did he take the proper drop? 318 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: Was he in the right gap? I mean I can 319 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: tell if a guy's on the wrong gap don't And 320 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: I didn't see necessarily any of that. And uh, I 321 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: didn't see any glaring mental errors by those guys. But 322 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: there may have been some some some problems, you know, 323 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: poor angles taking taken, maybe not enough depth on a 324 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: drop on some completion. Who knows what the fine tuning 325 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: part of it is. But but watching those guys play, 326 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: they need reps, you know, they just need snaps. They 327 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: need repetition. Repetition breeds comfort level. And man, if you 328 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: could take uh, you know, suck Josh buying some of 329 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: his brain and injected into the into the rookies, you know, 330 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: and transpose some of the transfer some of that some 331 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: of that gray matter with all of his experiences. And 332 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: there's no substitute for experience, you know. There there's no 333 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: other way to get it other than to go through 334 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: the experience. So, um, it is an interesting mix there, well, 335 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: Josh Finds and those young guys. So after the scrimmage, 336 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: when Zach Taylor did a conference call with all the 337 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: reporters and you know, answered ten questions about how great 338 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow is, he made a point without being asked 339 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: to single out Will Jackson as a player that he 340 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 1: thought was excellent today. Yeah, Will Jackson, I mean I'd 341 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: have to look at tape to see that. But but 342 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: he like he's a quarterback. Colin plays, so his eyes 343 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: go to the perimeter on the back end, and he 344 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 1: wants to see coverage and he wants to see who's 345 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 1: providing tight coverage. And and if Will Jackson kept jumping 346 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: into his eye, into his vision, you know, he's gonna say, hey, 347 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: that guy. He was. He was consistently effective, and that's good. 348 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: That's good to see out of Will Jackson. You know, 349 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 1: I mean he needs to he needs to have that 350 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: kind of day. But other guys I thought, you know, 351 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: it had pretty solid scrimmages. But but nobody likes Jacques Patrick. 352 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 1: Jacques was, he was. He was unbelievable. He's a hundred 353 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:58,400 Speaker 1: yards rushing. It seemed like in one drive. But yeah, 354 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,719 Speaker 1: Florida State kid, big body guy. Um, he does have 355 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 1: some special teams experience and in college and in the XFL, 356 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: And I asked Zack in the conference called, you know, 357 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: without special teams games where Darren can actually see them 358 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 1: against other colored jerseys play special teams, you know, does 359 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: that how does that factor in? And they are gonna 360 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 1: like there's another scrimmer's Dan that we're gonna call on radio, 361 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:24,239 Speaker 1: by the way, on WLW and uh so they'll have 362 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 1: special teams periods there that it sounds like you're going 363 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: to be live and part of that evaluation process will 364 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 1: take place and they're almost going to have to do that, 365 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: you know, see if guys can finish plays, get guys 366 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: on the ground, and um, you know, I remember Paul Brown. 367 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: It was so innovative and so great and such a 368 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: such a inspiration, you know, as a coach, and he'd 369 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: he'd always say, Dan, about this time of training camp. 370 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 1: You know, we can trick people, we can fool people, 371 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: we can do all that the way, but guys, you 372 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: still have to block and you still have to tackle. 373 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: And that's what today started it off. You still have 374 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: to block lineback, defensive players have to get off blocks, 375 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: have to tackle. And Paul Brown, every single practice in 376 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: training camp we would stretch and then do routine tackling drill. 377 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: Everybody tackled lineman, offensive lineman against offensive linement, quarterbacks against quarterbacks, 378 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: punter against place kicker, and you would line up and 379 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 1: wasn't live, but it was forty five degree angle at 380 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 1: a decent little clip, gets your helmet across the battle 381 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: head in front and take on the ground and get 382 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:29,360 Speaker 1: used to going to the ground tackling people because if 383 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: the defense turns you over, you got to tackle the 384 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: guy will score a touchdown. His big part right at 385 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: the very early stage. As soon as you get loose 386 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: and warmed up routine tackling drill, everybody takes somebody to 387 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 1: the ground. That was Paul Brown, as innovative and creative 388 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 1: as he was. The basics man, lock and tackle. That's football. 389 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 1: Jacques Patrick, the running back you were referring to, had 390 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 1: a forty yard run and a fifteen yard touchdown run 391 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: on the same drive. I'll tell you another guy who 392 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 1: had a good day today, Ryan Finlay. Two touchdown passes. 393 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: Both of them came in that red zone plus area 394 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: where they started at the opponent's thirty yard line. He 395 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,959 Speaker 1: threw one to Alex Ericson and the other to Mason 396 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: Shrek wide open running down the seam. And he also 397 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: had a deep ball completion to alex Ericson earlier in 398 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: the scrimmage. Yeah, and this is where you know year 399 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: one to year two. Hopefully, Ryan Finley, he got a 400 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 1: taste of it, and it was probably a bad taste 401 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 1: in his mouth. I'm sure he wanted to spit it 402 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: out pretty quickly and use some wealthwashing and start over 403 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: and use it as a learning process, a learning tool. 404 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 1: He was putting a very very tough situation, There's no 405 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 1: question about it. He took some knocks. I mean, it 406 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 1: was very, very difficult and desperate scenario. But you learn 407 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 1: from it, and I think he's learned from it. He's 408 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 1: a very intelligent player and he is making some plays 409 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,360 Speaker 1: and that's going to benefit the football team, no doubt 410 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: about it. You have to have more than one at 411 00:20:56,359 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: the quarterback position, and history has shown that. We talked 412 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: about Drew Sample on a recent UH Bengals training camp 413 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 1: report video report and about how he has transformed his 414 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: physique going into this camp. Well, he had a huge 415 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: gain on a throw up the seam from Joe Burrow 416 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: and I don't remember him having any catches like that 417 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 1: last year. Yeah, he did. The run after catch was impressive. 418 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: I mean he got his shoulder pass squared up and 419 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 1: went north and south like man right now. And I 420 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: thought he was pretty good at the line scrimmage blocking 421 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: to the Bengals. Uh, they had various in a sundry 422 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: schemes utilized today, but one of them was the pin 423 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 1: and pulled up was so good for Joe Mixon towards 424 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: the end of the year. And Drew Sample had some 425 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: nice pin blocks, you know, and and uh, you know 426 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: he blocked down and pin one time. And Bobby Hart 427 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: came out and had a nice, nice block out in 428 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: space as a pulling lineman led to a you know, 429 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: one of their touchdowns. And it's it's encouraging to you know, 430 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 1: to see these these young players. I mean, that's who 431 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: that's who the Bengals are. When when you look at 432 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: a lot of the positions that that guys were playing. 433 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 1: We talked about Jonah Williams, Michael Jordan, Trey Hopkins has 434 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 1: not been He's not a you know, a grizzle veteran guy, 435 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: you know. I mean that offensive line. Bobby Hart's the 436 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 1: oldest player that offensive line. He's not, you know, not 437 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: a graybeard, um, Drew Sample, CJ's It's they this roster, 438 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 1: there's there's a lot of guys they're counting on in 439 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: the early stages or in the prime stages of their career. 440 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 1: Prime for me as a as a foreign player is 441 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: like years four to seven, but now they're playing so 442 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 1: much longer. It might be four to nine or four 443 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: to ten because they are playing, you know, so much longer. 444 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: But in the way nutrition and weight training on all that, 445 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: the way they're taking care of themselves. Um, and they're 446 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: getting paid so much, do have to worry about offseason jobs. 447 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: So it's a it's a different animal. But they're a 448 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 1: lot of young players are gonna be given the keys 449 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: to the car as such, and they're gonna have to 450 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: learn to drive quickly, all right. Final thing, T Higgins 451 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: has been going through wide receiver drills prior to this 452 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: scrimmage type stuff at practice for the last few days. 453 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: He'll be back out there soon unless there's a setback, 454 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,199 Speaker 1: and there's no reason to fear that there will be. 455 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: We happen to see AJ Green rehabbing on the Paul 456 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: Brown Stadium field inside of the stadium prior to our 457 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: video report yesterday, so AJ's getting closer. John Ross is 458 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: back in town going back through the COVID nineteen testing protocol, 459 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: so within a few days he's likely to be back. 460 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: So I think sometime next week we're going to see 461 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow throwing to all of his weapons. Yeah, and 462 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 1: I think that's going to be potentially this next scrimmage 463 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: Priday United Paul Brown Stadium. I think that'll be preseason 464 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: game number three as such, where you know, everybody gets 465 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: quite a few you play first half, who down, warm 466 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: back up, play a series in the third quarter. I 467 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: think that they'll, within reason, they'll they'll play you know, 468 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: quite a few of these guys. I mean, John Ross 469 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: hasn't even been in the facility for a while, but 470 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: they said he was looking really good physically, and he 471 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: knows the offense. I mean, he participated in it last year. 472 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: I mean, Tea Higgins, how quickly do you want to 473 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,199 Speaker 1: get him out there? I'm sure you want to try 474 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:09,919 Speaker 1: to get it out there as quickly as possible with 475 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 1: you know, Joe Burrow and get him indoctrinated into the 476 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 1: tempo and speed of the game in the National Football League. 477 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: And you know, interesting to see how much AJ Green 478 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 1: will play, you know, if they continue to maybe you know, 479 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: treat him with kid gloves a little bit and make 480 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: sure the one thing I know they want to make 481 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: sure of his AJ Green is available for the opener 482 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: against the Chargers. They all with scrimmages, you know, whatever else. 483 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: Just make sure that you've got him tracking h to 484 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: participate and make plays in that season open against the 485 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: LA Chargers. But you know, Joe Burrow and aj Green, 486 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 1: they'd like to get some timing, you know, and some repetitions. 487 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 1: So I'm excited about seeing the true number ones. And 488 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 1: like we said, you know what, if you're a pro, 489 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: if those guys aren't playing, the thing you have to 490 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 1: do is take advantage of opportunities presented to yourself. Untake 491 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: Alex Erickson. Good job, You'll sleep well tonight. You took 492 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:13,239 Speaker 1: full advantage. As Lap referenced, we will be broadcasting an 493 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 1: upcoming scrimmage on the radio that will be on Sunday night, 494 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: August thirtieth. Before we get to our next conversation, here's 495 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: a quick reminder that you can take your Bengals pride 496 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 1: to the next level in twenty twenty with an official 497 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: Bengals fan package from Prime Sport. If you had to 498 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 1: pick one decision in Bengals history that the team would 499 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 1: most like to have back, it was probably back in 500 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine when they turned down a bunch of 501 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 1: draft picks, including multiple first round selections from the New 502 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: Orleans Saints, and drafted achiey Smith number three overall. Washington 503 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 1: had the fifth pick in that draft and wound up 504 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: making the trade with New Orleans getting six picks in 505 00:25:56,080 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 1: the ninety nine draft plus first and third round selections 506 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: in the two thousand draft. In other words, Washington traded 507 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: one pick for eight, including two first rounders. Washington's general 508 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: manager at that time was Charlie Casserley, now an analyst 509 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,919 Speaker 1: for the NFL Network and a columnist for NFL dot Com. 510 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 1: He joined me for this week's podcast. Charlie, any Bengals 511 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: related interview going into twenty twenty has to begin with 512 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: a discussion about Joe Burrow. What did you think of 513 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 1: him as an NFL prospect and as a former GM 514 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 1: would you have drafted him number one overall or look 515 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: to trade the pick from multiple number ones. I would 516 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: have taken him. I thought he was the best quarterback 517 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: in the draft. You know, there's always a risk with 518 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 1: a rookie whether he's going to develop or not. But 519 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: I liked them. I wouldn't take the chance of multiple picks. 520 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: You don't know what's going to happen with them, and 521 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: if you have a quarterback, you'd like you'd take them. 522 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,479 Speaker 1: That's number one. Number two would I like about him? 523 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: I think intelligence, his study, habits, his field, vision, anticipation, 524 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: poison the pocket. I mean, I saw this guy standing 525 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: there with people coming right at him and he never flinched. 526 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say he has a top arm, but there's 527 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: nothing wrong with his arm to make all the throws. So, 528 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: like we're talking to former NFL GM Charlie Castleley, with 529 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 1: no OTAs or mini camps and now no preseason games, 530 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: what are your expectations for his rookie year. Well, Andy 531 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 1: Dalton came in without an offseason, but he had preseason 532 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: games and he went on and was I think he 533 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: was twenty touchdown masses over three thousand yards throwing. Those 534 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 1: are ballpark figures of what he did, but I know 535 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,919 Speaker 1: they're close, but I'm not sure. It's just hard to 536 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: say at this point in time. I think he's smart. 537 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: I think that the offense will grow throughout the season. 538 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: I think that you'll be You'll be putting it in 539 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: as you go and I don't think there's any other 540 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: way to do it. Don't know will load the guy. 541 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 1: What he can do you execute? You know, I think 542 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,199 Speaker 1: a lot of it's going to depend upon you know, 543 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: does he does he have everybody healthy with him? You 544 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 1: know when Andy Goldon excelled, AJ Green excelled too. They 545 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: were both rookies at the same point in time. So 546 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 1: he needs a healthy AJ Green, a healthy Joe Mixon, 547 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: and a healthy offensive line. And if he's got everybody healthy, 548 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 1: I think the offense can grow and he can do well. 549 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: If I'm evaluating him, does he execute the offense? Make 550 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 1: sure I don't have overloaded. And from his point of view, 551 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: he can't try to make every play a home run. 552 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: He can't run around there forever in the backfield if 553 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: it's not there to throw it away, run even if 554 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: you have to take the sack, live for another day. 555 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: So that's one of the things he's going to have 556 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: to learn, Charlie. As you know, the Bengals have historically 557 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: not been a big spender in free agency, but they 558 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: dove in head first this year. What was your reaction 559 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: and was there an addition or two that you especially liked. Well, 560 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,719 Speaker 1: there was a little bit of a surprise, but you know, 561 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 1: you have a second year head coach. You're trying to 562 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 1: win here, and you've got the first pick in the draft, 563 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: and you got a quarterback, so I could see what 564 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: they were doing. I think DJ Reader to me, was 565 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 1: the best free agents they signed. This is this guy's 566 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: a complete player. Scott can play the run, he's strong inside, 567 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: he can give you a push on the pocket, he's 568 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: got some pass rush ability. You know. He was the 569 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: one guy that that stood out to me that every 570 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: team in the league would have won to have. We're 571 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: talking to former NFL GM Charlie Casserley. You wrote a 572 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: column for NFL dot com about a week ago looking 573 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: at all four teams in the AFC North and it 574 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: included some key position battles. What positions in Cincinnati do 575 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: you have your eyes on. Well, they got to sort 576 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: the offensive line out. I think that that that's probably 577 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: the key one when you look at it, and you know, 578 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: I think the linebacker position, the all three boy of 579 00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:01,479 Speaker 1: positions are wide open. You've got to Jermine, Josh Bines, 580 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: Jordan Evans, and you got the rookies Logan Wilson, who 581 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: I like. I gotta believe he'll find a starting position. 582 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: And then you got a couple of other rookies in there, 583 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: Baylor and Davis Gator. So I think on the offensive line, 584 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: really your center and your left tackle a set, I think, 585 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: and then everything else is up for grafts. So then 586 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: you get that settled in there. Were you a big 587 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: Jonah Williams guy going into last year's draft. I liked them. 588 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: I thought he was an excellent prospect. I thought he 589 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: was a good pick. I thought I had him rated 590 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: in the first round. I thought he was a left tackle, 591 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: and I think that that's a very unfortunately missed his 592 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: rookie year. So again, it's awfully hard to sit there 593 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: and evaluate how these well, these guys who are gonna 594 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: play in September with fourteen padded practices and no games. 595 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: So I think we're all gonna have to be a patient. 596 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: The offensive line is always the slowest group to come together, 597 00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 1: even with a full preseason in September, it's probably the 598 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: lowest performing or at least performing level off a group 599 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: of any on the team, and that especially hurts a 600 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: rookie quarterback. So it's a group that's going to take 601 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: some time to come together, but not unlike many other 602 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: lines in this league. Charlie Joe Mixon is due to 603 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: be a free agent at the end of this year. 604 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: As a former team builder, how do you feel about 605 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: paying running backs? Well, it's one of those things. The 606 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 1: second contracts always tricky because a lot of them don't 607 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: make it through the second contract. But if you're getting 608 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: a guy that's young and not twenty eight when he 609 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 1: signs the second contract, I'd absolutely sign him to the 610 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 1: second contract because the age is in your favor there. 611 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: You know, Mixon is an outstanding player. He's one of 612 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: the better young backs in the league, and you want 613 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: to have him. The problem is, I don't know where 614 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: they are financially or what Mixon wants that that always 615 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: becomes an issue in the thing. But I'm sure they 616 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: want to sign him and be sure that they would 617 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: love to have him because he's an excellent player. We're 618 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,239 Speaker 1: talking to former NFL GM Charlie Casserley. If you were 619 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: running a team under these circumstances, what are some of 620 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: the things you would be worried about going into this year. Well, 621 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: I think it starts with the building. Do we have 622 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: the building safe? And I think teams have done an 623 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: outstanding job with that and and so that's your credit 624 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: to the teams. That's number one. Number two, the players 625 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,239 Speaker 1: when they were away from the facility. Are they going 626 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: to be disciplined enough. We've taken care of one. We 627 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 1: got them in here and got them out of every 628 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,959 Speaker 1: days safe. Are they going to be safe when they 629 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 1: go away? And that's going to depend on the character 630 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: of the individuals, the maturity of the team. The team 631 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: that does that the best is going to have a 632 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: decided advantage this year. You can't have any situations where 633 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: you're losing a number of players for a week or 634 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 1: two at a time, and that's going to kill you. 635 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 1: I think the other thing is flexibility in scheme and leadership. 636 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: Mental toughness. I don't want to say that. I guess 637 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: a mental toughness might be a right word, but no excuses. 638 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: Mentality by the coaching staff and flexibility otherwise meant we're playing. 639 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: That's what I'm telling the players. The bus is leaving, 640 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: You're gonna be on it. It's your job to be 641 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: on it. That's one. But number two, what I'm gonna 642 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 1: tell the coaching staff, as you know that sixty ninth 643 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: player we have, I expect him ready to start on Sunday, 644 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 1: because he might have to. So the coaches are gonna 645 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: have to get every player ready and have a plan 646 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: to get every player ready with creative practice schedules. I 647 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 1: suggested to the teams split up into smaller groups in 648 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 1: the early part of preseason to get more instruction for 649 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: the bottom level. A lot of times of practice, squad 650 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 1: players don't get coached and prepared. They have to be 651 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 1: prepared this week this year because they may have to play. 652 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: You may have some positive tests on Sunday Saturday that 653 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: don't turn around for Sunday, so you're gonna have to 654 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: put some guys on the field. So those are the 655 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: principles and position flexibility. Your linebacker has got to play 656 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: every position. Your defensive backs have to be at playovery position. 657 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 1: But as a coach, this is my last point. You 658 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 1: got to be flexible. Now, hey, we lost three wide 659 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: receivers here, Well, maybe we got to play more to 660 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 1: two tight ends. Maybe we got to use a running 661 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,320 Speaker 1: back at receiver. We lost our tight ends, well we 662 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,439 Speaker 1: better have an offensive lineman or two then go play 663 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 1: tight end. We've better be able to go four wides. 664 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: We lose our running backs, do we have somebody that 665 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 1: a wide receiver or tight end. It can play running 666 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 1: back for one week. You better train these guys to 667 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 1: do multiple things because you could have that happen to you. 668 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 1: That's quite a list, and it seems like flexibility. Is 669 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 1: that the key word in all of that. No, it 670 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 1: absolutely is. And and smart practicing during the week and 671 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 1: otherwise socially distancing maybe some of your players. What what 672 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:56,919 Speaker 1: the experts believe is this is that playing football will 673 00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:02,919 Speaker 1: not transmit the disease U. Contact tracing I was told 674 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: by the CDC begins with fifteen minutes. The NFL is 675 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 1: beginning in a ten minutes. But it's continuous, is what 676 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: we're being told. There's no continuous contact on the field 677 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 1: for ten minutes. Now, what the bench do You have 678 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 1: your bench spread out? You might put people in the 679 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 1: stands like they do in baseball. I watched some of 680 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: the highlights I watched in practice. I don't see people 681 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: spreading apart the way they should did drills. I know, 682 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 1: when you get to eleven or eleven, you know you're 683 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 1: playing football, but you're doing drills, you're not playing football, 684 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,320 Speaker 1: and you're staying on the sideline. You're not playing football. 685 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 1: So those are the things that you're gonna have to 686 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 1: be disciplined about through the week. And people talked about 687 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: maybe quarantine the quarterback, the third quarterback. But if you 688 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: do all your meetings virtual and they don't come near 689 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:56,320 Speaker 1: each other in practice okay, and they wear masks except 690 00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 1: when they don't have to, then it's inexcusable or a 691 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 1: player to miss. I'm saying this, and I've told some 692 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 1: teams this. With what you set up and you go 693 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 1: test during the season, which I think you have to do, 694 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 1: and what I would do, I put him in a 695 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 1: hotel on Thursday night, I start a bubble. It's inexcusable 696 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: to miss a game this year. Charlie assess the Bengals 697 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 1: competition in the AFC North Plus up Division Up Division. 698 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 1: You know, Baltimore I think is going to be right 699 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 1: where they were a year ago as a top team. Now, 700 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 1: whether they have the same record, I don't know. Can 701 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 1: teams catch up to their offense? Probably hard to do 702 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 1: it no offseason and limited training camp because that's where 703 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,320 Speaker 1: you spend your extra time on practicing. Defending the Ravens 704 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: option offense, which is unique to the NFL, is the 705 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: only one run like that. I think Pittsburgh will be 706 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 1: back with Ben a quarterback. All the all reports are good, 707 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,360 Speaker 1: all reports in the off season where they we're going 708 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: to be good. So I expect them to bounce back. 709 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 1: I mean, they came close last year, so I think 710 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 1: they're gonna be in it. And Cleveland has enough talent 711 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,320 Speaker 1: to win ten games. Now when are they're going to 712 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 1: do it this year? I don't know, Okay, new coaching staff. 713 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 1: Offensive lines got some issues right now with the center 714 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 1: a treader out and the wills of the first pick 715 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 1: trying to learn left tackle when he played right tackle 716 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,280 Speaker 1: in college, so the offensive line may not be as sharp. 717 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 1: Linebackers is a question for him. But they're they're good. 718 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 1: You know, Cincinnati's fourth, but they're not a bad team. 719 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 1: So I think that it's a very competitive division. That's 720 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 1: NFL Network analyst Charlie Casserley, who has obviously spent a 721 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 1: lot of time thinking about what it's going to take 722 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 1: to play football this year, and according to Pro Football Talk, 723 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,360 Speaker 1: Charlie is going to be part of an eight person 724 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 1: committee that will be advising NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell on 725 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 1: issues related to the coronavirus. Marvin Lewis is also reportedly 726 00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 1: a member of that committee. Now time for a one 727 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 1: on one player interview, and early this week I caught 728 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,840 Speaker 1: up with tight end c j Uzoma is he begins 729 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:10,799 Speaker 1: his sixth year in Cincinnati. It's obviously drastically different from 730 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 1: the previous five, and I asked CJ if the current 731 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:18,479 Speaker 1: protocols are starting to feel like the new normal. Yeah. 732 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 1: I think the first the first few days, I mean 733 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 1: even even now a few of the things that we 734 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 1: have to do to make sure that we're um, you know, 735 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 1: staying a safe distance away from one another and working 736 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 1: out and wiping the bar down after every rep touch 737 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 1: stuff you kind of forget to do. You're you're trying 738 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,720 Speaker 1: to make sure that you don't forget to do certain things. 739 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 1: But um, yeah, I think this is the new norm, 740 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 1: and um, we're kind of adapting as best wee king. 741 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 1: Did you have any reservations about trying to play football 742 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 1: in a worldwide pandemic? Um? Oh, no, I mean I 743 00:38:55,200 --> 00:39:00,759 Speaker 1: think m being in Nashville and during everything and kind 744 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:04,399 Speaker 1: of seeing how other cities were dealing with things. It's 745 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 1: kind of like being in Cincinnati was my best bet 746 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,319 Speaker 1: in terms of, you know, quarantining thing away from people 747 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 1: just because when people were going crazy just being out, 748 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:17,440 Speaker 1: and you know, it's kind of fifty fifty whether or 749 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 1: not you're gonna people were staying home and trying to 750 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 1: stay safe or going out and just carrying wrong going 751 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 1: to bars and stuff. So I think, yeah, I was ready. Honestly, 752 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 1: I was just ready to get back and get started. 753 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 1: We're visiting me the Bengals tight end c j Uzama. 754 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 1: Let me ask the question that you probably get from everybody, 755 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:41,359 Speaker 1: you know, what do you think of Joe Burrow? I think, yeah, 756 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:45,479 Speaker 1: I've gotten that a lot. Yeah, I think he's bright. 757 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 1: You know, we were kind of talking about it today 758 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 1: w TD AJ Joe Bobby. I mean, a bunch of 759 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 1: the guys Joe were like, you know, coming in, obviously 760 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 1: he's a rookie, and we know that we had a 761 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 1: very successful college career, but you know we're still thinking, man, 762 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 1: he's a rookie. Yes, run the plays, you know, the checks, 763 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 1: all these things, and he he is killing it to us. 764 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 1: You know, I think, um, you know, he's leads and 765 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,360 Speaker 1: bounds what anybody had expected him to be. Um in 766 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,399 Speaker 1: terms of mentally, you know, we knew what he could 767 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 1: do physically, with don and putting upon certain areas and positions. 768 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:23,759 Speaker 1: But um, I think mentally he's is what's um been 769 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 1: the most surprising and in the best way. By the 770 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 1: time we got to the National Championship game last year 771 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,239 Speaker 1: between LSU and Clemson, it was pretty obvious that Joe 772 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,400 Speaker 1: Burrow was likely to be the number one pick in 773 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 1: the draft and wind up being your NFL teammate. Did 774 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,879 Speaker 1: you watch him use tight end Thaddeus Moss? I think 775 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,439 Speaker 1: he had two touchdown passes in that game, and get 776 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 1: excited by his use of the tight end, Yeah, for sure, 777 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,320 Speaker 1: I did. I think the two things that really excited 778 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 1: me about tight ends were, yeah, him using Moss and 779 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 1: then you know, I think then this, uh during or 780 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,920 Speaker 1: when ots be going on and during the off season, 781 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 1: he was kind of throwing with two hometown tight ends 782 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 1: that he had, and um, you know, hearing both of 783 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:08,839 Speaker 1: those things and seeing that happen, I was like, Man, 784 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 1: this is gonna be this should be fun. You know. 785 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,279 Speaker 1: I'm I'm going to be sure to keep getting in 786 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,919 Speaker 1: his ear a little bit just to just how he knows. Hey, 787 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,799 Speaker 1: I'm we're chatting with c j Uzama. This is the 788 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 1: first time in your Bengals career. That your buddy Tyler 789 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,719 Speaker 1: Eifert is not part of the tight end room, How 790 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:30,320 Speaker 1: does that impact you? Yeah, it's it's different it. Um, 791 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:34,200 Speaker 1: you know, obviously I was, um a critical and crucial 792 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,320 Speaker 1: pardon in the tight end that I've become just because 793 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 1: I've had a fear too, you know, a person just 794 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 1: to pick his brain every now and then, and um 795 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 1: having him around was always amazing. He's He's going to 796 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:47,319 Speaker 1: be a lifetime, lifelong friend for sure. But UM, yeah, 797 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:52,319 Speaker 1: it's it's it's put um a different types of you 798 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 1: know deal on my plate right now. I think, you know, 799 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 1: being the oldest in the tight end room now and 800 00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 1: um kind of having that weight on my shoulders, I 801 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 1: kind of like it going out to practice and knowing that, um, 802 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,400 Speaker 1: you know right now I'm that guy. So we have 803 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,319 Speaker 1: a really good tight end room. I'm really excited about 804 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,279 Speaker 1: everyone we have and um yeah, I'm looking forward to 805 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,799 Speaker 1: honest I think we have we have a we have 806 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 1: some we have some good things coming from the Titans. CJ. 807 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 1: You're only twenty seven. You never have to use the 808 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 1: word oldest, at least not yet. Wait, No, it's crazy 809 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,719 Speaker 1: to me. I'm thinking to myself. Man, yeah, I'm the 810 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 1: oldest one in the room, but I'm not old. I 811 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,160 Speaker 1: am convinced. I am telling myself right now, I am 812 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 1: not old. Um. It is funny to think that I'm 813 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 1: the oldest one in that room. I tell myself that 814 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:38,799 Speaker 1: I'm not old all the time, but in my case, 815 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:42,440 Speaker 1: I am Unfortunately. Let's talk about another guy. That's talk 816 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,880 Speaker 1: about another guy in the room, and that is Drew Sample. 817 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 1: He missed the second half of the season basically last year, 818 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,439 Speaker 1: his rookie year, but it looks like he's come back 819 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:55,399 Speaker 1: and in tip top shape, a little bit stronger than 820 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,720 Speaker 1: he was as a rookie to get ready to block 821 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,880 Speaker 1: some of those big defensive ends in backers. What do 822 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,360 Speaker 1: you think of Drew? Yeah, I think, um, you know 823 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,000 Speaker 1: that second years where you make the biggest read in 824 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,480 Speaker 1: terms of um reproduction and kind of slowing down the 825 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 1: steet of the game. I think so. Um yeah, I've 826 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,279 Speaker 1: been I've been pleasantly pleased with you know, how how 827 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,759 Speaker 1: are he's um the set that he's taken and like 828 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 1: you said, he's gotten done, stronger, gotten faster. Um. You know, 829 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:27,080 Speaker 1: obviously we've only had really one day against the defense 830 00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,239 Speaker 1: really where we're going full for for an hour and 831 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,440 Speaker 1: a half, but um, the route that he's running are 832 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:35,120 Speaker 1: more crisp, and UM, yeah, I'm I'm excited to see 833 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:36,560 Speaker 1: kind of what he has in store when we put 834 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,399 Speaker 1: those full pads on, because I know he's Um, he's 835 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,920 Speaker 1: gonna be a force for sure. Spending a few minutes 836 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:45,160 Speaker 1: with c j Uzama. During your time in Cincinnati, the 837 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 1: Bengals have historically resigned the best players on the roster, 838 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,440 Speaker 1: and you were a guy that earned a nice second 839 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:55,880 Speaker 1: contract so far in Cincinnati, but this offseason, the Bengals 840 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 1: were among the big free agent free agent spenders in 841 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:03,960 Speaker 1: the NFL, DJ Von Bell, Trey Wayne's, most recently, Mike Daniels, 842 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 1: What was your reaction to that free agent spending spree. 843 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,839 Speaker 1: I think my reaction was just like everyone else who's 844 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 1: been here for you know, fifteen fifteen years, so we're 845 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,920 Speaker 1: very surprised in the best way, you know, we're I 846 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,960 Speaker 1: called Geo after one of the days and I was like, Bro, 847 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:25,000 Speaker 1: what is what's going on? Like this is I didn't 848 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:26,719 Speaker 1: know this was gonna happen, Like I was. This is 849 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 1: very unexpected, and um, you know, I think, you know, 850 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,319 Speaker 1: talking to Coach Taylor and the coaching staff. You know, 851 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,560 Speaker 1: they just wanted to get the best guys with the 852 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,600 Speaker 1: best character, and that's what we brought in honest. I mean, 853 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 1: I know Vaughan has had his interview, and I know 854 00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 1: if you don't know, Vawn wakes up at like four 855 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,200 Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning sometimes beforehand because he beats his alarm. 856 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,040 Speaker 1: And you know, it's those kind of guys that I want. 857 00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:49,799 Speaker 1: I want to play next to that that makes me 858 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 1: want to play harder for the defense and the guys 859 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,480 Speaker 1: across the ball, just because you know they're bringing that 860 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 1: work ethic and that that killer mentality of you know, 861 00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 1: I want, I want to be the best. I want 862 00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,239 Speaker 1: to do every thing I can to make this team 863 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,879 Speaker 1: the best. So, um, I'm I'm high. I mean, we 864 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,239 Speaker 1: we got some good guys in there. Um, it's a 865 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,239 Speaker 1: lot of new faces for shared going into the locker 866 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,080 Speaker 1: room and now getting it being able to interact with 867 00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,880 Speaker 1: the guys. But um, I can tell their high quality 868 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,279 Speaker 1: and I mean from what I from what I've seen 869 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,400 Speaker 1: so far, they're really good. You referenced your good buddy 870 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:24,920 Speaker 1: Giovanni Bernard. Is he still rocking that full mustache. Oh 871 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,320 Speaker 1: my gosh, we I mean, can we get a petition 872 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 1: to get that thing removed? What's going on here? He's 873 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,960 Speaker 1: still he's still rocking the mustache. He's gonna rock it 874 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:38,520 Speaker 1: for a while. I think that's his wife. Chloe likes it, 875 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:42,640 Speaker 1: so that's the only opinion he cares about. I can 876 00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,600 Speaker 1: come in and rag him every day, but so why 877 00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 1: he likes it. He's fun with it, so um, I 878 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,879 Speaker 1: think he's gonna let it rock for a while. Happy wife, 879 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,880 Speaker 1: Happy life. True. Our words were never spoken. C c J. 880 00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 1: You are a world traveler. In a normal year, in 881 00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,879 Speaker 1: the off season, you would go see someplace you've never 882 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,840 Speaker 1: seen before, do something interesting in the off season. I 883 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:07,880 Speaker 1: always always enjoy hearing about your escapades. Were you forced 884 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:12,279 Speaker 1: to just stay in Nashville this whole off season? So yeah, 885 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,640 Speaker 1: I was actually supposed to go to Australia for a 886 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 1: little bit, and that trip is now halted until next year. Um, 887 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 1: but I was actually able to go to Jacksonville, Wyoming, 888 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,040 Speaker 1: and I was able to go to ask you for 889 00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:31,080 Speaker 1: X games, and right when I got back, everything got 890 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,319 Speaker 1: shut down. So I was able to travel twice, and 891 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,960 Speaker 1: then I thought I was grounded in Nashville. Not your 892 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,359 Speaker 1: normal off season, but hopefully you'll be able to get 893 00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,520 Speaker 1: to Australia and knock that off the bucket list sometime soon. 894 00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,400 Speaker 1: Thanks the c j Uzama, Charlie Casserley and Dave Lapham. 895 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,560 Speaker 1: And that's going to do it for this episode of 896 00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,600 Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth Podcast, brought to you by Prime Sport, 897 00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:59,320 Speaker 1: the official fan, travel and hospitality partner of the Cincinnati Bengals. 898 00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,120 Speaker 1: If you have and done so already, please subscribe and 899 00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:03,920 Speaker 1: if you have a minute, give it a rating or 900 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 1: share a comment that helps more Bengals fans find this podcast. 901 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,960 Speaker 1: I'm Dan Horde and thanks for listening to The Bengals 902 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:13,200 Speaker 1: Booth Podcast