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Speaker 2: You're listening to the best of the Odd Couple.

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Speaker 3: Big Sunday, Big Weekend of sports. Oh yeah, and of

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Speaker 3: all the storylines that hit outside of wappen on Friday,

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Speaker 3: which we'll get to you later in the show, the

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Speaker 3: biggest one to come out of the weekend has to be,

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Speaker 3: without a doubt, that epic comeback in Denver, the Denver

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Speaker 3: Broncos come back to stun Jackson Dart and the New

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Speaker 3: York Football Giants. They were trailing, then scored through the

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Speaker 3: first three quarters. Okay, they were up by eighteen points

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Speaker 3: with six minutes to play. Before yesterday five minutes, NFL

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Speaker 3: teams had lost one thousand, six hundred and two consecutive

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Speaker 3: games went trailing by that mount of points with that

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Speaker 3: little amount of time, and yet bow Knicks did bow

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Speaker 3: Knicks things, accounting for four touchdowns thirty three points, in

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Speaker 4: Got this as usual, Rob g buried the lead.

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Speaker 5: If you were if you were my reporter and you

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Speaker 5: turned into story about the Denver Broncos and not the

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Speaker 5: New York Football Giants, I would send that story back

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Speaker 5: because that story was not about the Denver Broncos at all,

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Speaker 5: zero zip, nada. It was about the New York freaking

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Speaker 5: Football Giants who choked down a colossal, colossal game eighteen

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna mirror this to one other situation. Are you ready.

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Speaker 5: It's when the Knicks lost to the Pacers with two

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Speaker 5: Guess what happened. It costs call me, mister Tipps.

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Speaker 6: His job. Tom Thibodeau was fired after that.

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Speaker 5: And I told you, if you can't get fired off

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Speaker 6: Brian Dabo, pack your bags.

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Speaker 5: Your life as head coach of the New York freaking

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Speaker 6: Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 5: This is not the first time this year he mishandled

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Speaker 5: That's two freaking games this year by him alone.

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Speaker 6: Are you serious? Denver? My ass? I don't care what

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Speaker 5: I don't care because if the Giants did what they

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Speaker 4: Of course he do for touchdowns. There was no pressure.

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Speaker 5: How do you turn a great quarterback into a mediocre

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Speaker 5: wad you apply to pressure? You're rushing three Come on, Calvin,

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Speaker 5: you know football. That's why the players walked off. You

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Speaker 6: No, you know, nobody that much time. Thank you. I

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Speaker 5: People run themselves open. They know where they're going. It's

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Speaker 6: Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 1: Brian Daveball pack your bags? Well, Brian Dabad definitely is texting,

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Speaker 1: Because this is an epic collapse. We know that, ROBJ.

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Speaker 1: That's why it's the first. However, you don't want to

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Speaker 5: Talked about their defense. Well that's why Rob G wants

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Speaker 1: it reminded me of an even greater version of JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 5: If I'm if I'm dayballing the Giants, no doubt. I mean,

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Speaker 5: what a bad, bad, bad day for the New York

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Speaker 5: Like it's it's it's it's equivalent because both of those

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Speaker 5: Like that changes everything? And now did they lose that game?

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Speaker 5: They came back and followed that up. And here's the

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Speaker 5: that and go it's a one off. It's not a

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Speaker 5: one off enough already, Brian day Ball, look at his

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Speaker 5: as last three years whatever they want, eleven games or

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Speaker 1: Seriously, it's all in the last point for me to

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Speaker 1: a game you need to win to beat a good team.

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Speaker 1: And the Broncos, who have been struggling offensively last three weeks, again,

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Speaker 6: I'm not I'm not the Broncos. I'm not high on

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Speaker 5: and we are going to talk about show Hail Tani

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Speaker 5: and what transpired on Friday night, and it's it's a combination.

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Speaker 5: I mean, obviously he had a tremendous game.

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Speaker 6: This is why.

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Speaker 5: People get caught up on this whole idea of prisoner

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Speaker 5: it like shohey had done something that nobody had ever done.

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Speaker 6: Okay, okay, and it's not true. Okay.

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Speaker 5: First of all, people have hit three home runs in

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Speaker 5: a game. Reggie Jackson hit three home runs on three

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Speaker 6: An incredible feat That's how I feel.

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Speaker 6: He's the first guy, says, of.

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Speaker 4: Course he is, because nobody else has ever done it.

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Speaker 6: That's exactly what nobody else has done it. Hit me out.

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Speaker 6: You know, nobody else has ever done it. It ain't impressive.

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Speaker 5: one hundred years ago.

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Speaker 6: It's not like that never happened. But then the.

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Speaker 5: Whole thing is about, oh and he struck out ten,

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Speaker 5: That's what I'm trying to tell you is the Dodgers

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Speaker 6: No, no, no, no, no, no, hapless Brewers.

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Speaker 6: I'm not buying that. You not stop it. The Milwaukee

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Speaker 1: Stop it ain't nobody buying what you're selling right now

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Speaker 6: Then stop. They scored four runs if he beat them.

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Speaker 6: Rob one man. We always say one man can't beat

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if you've been telling me that

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Speaker 1: I don't know what's the football equivalent. Lamar Jackson throws

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Speaker 6: Stop it, Rob, You ain't nobody buying it.

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to tell you that you gotta look at.

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Speaker 1: This, a five thousand dollars jack in the ross. You

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Speaker 5: Who he found, who he did the pitching against, which

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Speaker 6: Bruises showing you for a year. You ain't never stuttered

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Speaker 1: The Bruises were not dead, Rob, g you could have

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Speaker 1: Immoto had to pitch nine scorps nine. You know Reggie

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Speaker 6: You know it wasn't a big deal.

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Speaker 3: But Reggie Jackson say Wow, double wow, and congratulations show

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Speaker 3: for an incredible performance All caps. That's major point. Tip

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Speaker 7: Time Reggie Jackson did was it wasn't the greatest, SOB no,

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Speaker 1: He did?

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Speaker 6: Somebody can do what Reggie did.

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Speaker 1: Nobody absolutely nobody can do it did no.

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Speaker 6: Nobody else's pitching and hitting three home runs. You're gonna

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Speaker 3: I got some stats for you, Rob, just to give

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Speaker 6: That show.

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Speaker 5: You know how many times it's like forty times twelve

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Speaker 6: Twelve and only twenty.

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Speaker 6: It's the start. Rob did both of those things in

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Speaker 5: Because that k a pitch. I want to know that

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Speaker 6: Yes he did. What does that?

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Speaker 1: He didn't, Rob, he didn't believe, but it tells you

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Speaker 6: You don't believe it. This is what you were hearsting

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Speaker 1: Once it happened, after you wiped the throw up off

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Speaker 5: But twenty seventeen, k went your three times in a

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Speaker 1: And you know who else did? Ten other people and

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Speaker 1: He just said, we ten other people have hit three

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Speaker 6: Brewn Brewers were dead.

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Speaker 1: Ruers were the best team in baseball. Stoppers were dead.

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Speaker 1: I say it with me. That was the best thing

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Speaker 1: I've ever seen. It's okay, Rob, It's okay. He's the

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Speaker 5: Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven

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Speaker 4: Prisoner of the moment, and you believe.

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Speaker 5: That was the greatest moment in the history of prison

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Speaker 5: smart come on, and you believe that it was Seats

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Speaker 6: Eight seven, seven ninety nine.

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Speaker 1: On five was the one I saw Reggie Jackson who

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Speaker 6: Live right now by TJ.

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Speaker 1: Who's Masada a of course, former wide receiver and he

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Speaker 1: put some respect on your name, who's and and Rob

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Speaker 1: asked this question earlier, TJ. The kids mess your name up, like,

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Speaker 8: You who's oh he look, this was funny, right. The

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Speaker 8: get to the h's and they'd be like, they'll say

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Speaker 8: hernandez and then and then and then it's a pause,

443
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Speaker 8: and I'd be like, oh, that's me. I'm TJ. That's me.

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Speaker 8: They didn't even try. They ain't even try. No.

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Speaker 6: I told Rob they probably TJ. Houseman, Does they not? Damn?

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Speaker 6: Oh man?

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Speaker 8: It used to be so many crazy things, but I've

448
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Speaker 8: been used to it my whole life. I'm like, I'm TJ.

449
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Speaker 8: Just call me TJ.

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Speaker 5: There you go, right, It's so easy after that. TJ's easy,

451
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Speaker 5: all right. What isn't easy is the New York Football

452
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Speaker 5: Giants and Brian dave Ball.

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Speaker 6: We've seen this.

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Speaker 5: I get it, the kicker missed whatever, but that is

455
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Speaker 5: an ultimate meltdown. And they mishandled that game against Dallas

456
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Speaker 5: as well. What did you make of that? Giving up

457
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Speaker 5: thirty three points in the prise quarter and losing that game?

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Speaker 8: Brutal? Brutal? You you hate to lose a game like

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Speaker 8: that when you have a rookie quarterback and they go

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Speaker 8: down to score and take the lead, and going into

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Speaker 8: the season, defense wasn't just a strength, it was the

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Speaker 8: team and they can't hold that lead. But I don't

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Speaker 8: want to point figures. Yeah, should the kicker have made it? Absolutely,

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Speaker 8: But if you go back to the first play with

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Speaker 8: bow knicks and I hate to do this, go watch

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Speaker 8: number twenty two. He's like, go watch his effort. He's

467
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Speaker 8: guarding the guy that caught the ball. He's literally jogging

468
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Speaker 8: like it's a preseason game. If he just keeps his

469
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Speaker 8: eyes on the ball in the quarterback, he makes the play.

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Speaker 8: And so defensively, I believe Shane Bowen is their defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 8: If I'm a dable, I'm pissed. I'm pissed because we

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Speaker 8: weren't prepared for that situation.

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Speaker 6: Well that was what I was gonna ask.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you can be mad at him, but

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Speaker 1: this is a couple of games now where he's had

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Speaker 1: some blunders of the team just melted down. Is there

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Speaker 1: a point when they just say now we've had enough

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Speaker 1: or is he tied to Jackson Dart Now the.

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Speaker 8: Way Jackson Dart is playing. I'm not letting Daveo go.

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Speaker 8: I'm not he's playing too well. And see, this is

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Speaker 8: the thing about just football sports in general, especially sports

482
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Speaker 8: where you have coordinators, specifically football. He's letting his coaches coach.

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Speaker 8: You don't want to be mic quote managing everything that

484
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Speaker 8: your coaches are doing because now they always gonna be

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Speaker 8: looking over their shoulders. So he's making their coach as coach.

486
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Speaker 8: But there's be coomans a point in time where you realize, like, oh,

487
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Speaker 8: I done hire the wrong coach. Now I got a

488
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Speaker 8: micro managers. My butty's gonna be on the line. So

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Speaker 8: I believe now he will micro manage and replace him

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Speaker 8: when this season is over.

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Speaker 5: All right, I want to go here because I think

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Speaker 5: me and you went at it about Pete Carroll and

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Speaker 5: I said he was a poor chop away from not

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Speaker 5: being head coach.

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Speaker 6: But I gotta say this, TJ.

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Speaker 5: It's not just about Gino's pizza being bad and all

497
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Speaker 5: the interceptions.

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Speaker 6: They don't do anything well.

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Speaker 5: They don't run the football, they don't play defense, they

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Speaker 5: can't stop anybody, they don't pressure the quarterback.

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Speaker 4: They are bad. They are really, really bad.

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Speaker 5: What do you make of what's going on with the Raiders,

503
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Speaker 5: because it's just I can't believe how bad they are.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 8: We didn't go at it about this because if you

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Speaker 8: said Pete was bad, I wouldn't disagree with you. But

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Speaker 8: he Curl's a good defensive coach. Offensively, the way that

508
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Speaker 8: he wants to play football, you can only play that

509
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Speaker 8: way unless your defense is dominating and you can play

510
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Speaker 8: out how I like to call it, two yards and

511
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Speaker 8: a cloud of dust. You know tom Osbourne Nebraska in

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Speaker 8: the late nineties, you know, with Tommy Fraser like he

513
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Speaker 8: wants to play such a conservative brand of football. But

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Speaker 8: Gino was turning the ball over early. They weren't running

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Speaker 8: the ball effectively. If Max Crosby doesn't play, they get

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Speaker 8: no pressure on a quarterback. And so for me, was

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Speaker 8: it a bad higher Yet, because you look at where

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Speaker 8: they were last year. They're much better last year than

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Speaker 8: they were, and they have.

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Speaker 6: A better quarterback.

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Speaker 5: It doesn't make sense that they're as bad as they

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Speaker 5: are considering where they were, and at some point go ahead.

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Speaker 8: They thought they were getting the upgrade their work. Not

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Speaker 8: only are they worse on offense with a better quarterback

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Speaker 8: and better skilled players. They're worse on defense, a lot worse.

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Speaker 1: DJ Whos was out of our guest right now. I

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Speaker 1: want to ask you, man, what do you make of

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Speaker 1: the charges right now? I think that's what you had

529
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Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl, if I'm not mistaken.

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Speaker 8: And yeah, they it's a struggle. It's a struggle. But

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Speaker 8: I truly believe and offensive line when you lose those

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Speaker 8: big dudes up front. You know, Rashaan Slater was lost

533
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Speaker 8: early on, but Joe aut went down. I believe Joe

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Speaker 8: Aalt will be back. I believe they played Thursday. If

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Speaker 8: he comes back, they're gonna get back on track. Herbert

536
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Speaker 8: has to cut down on the turnovers. He's playing good football.

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Speaker 8: A revelation in og Ronde Gaston Junior. If he can

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Speaker 8: give you anything close to what he gave you this

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Speaker 8: past Sunday. They have done had great tight ends and

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Speaker 8: he's a fifth round rookie and he done set the

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Speaker 8: record for most receiving yards ever by a tight end

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Speaker 8: and as a rookie. And so they're discovering some things.

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Speaker 8: They just need to be able to protect him more.

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Speaker 8: Defense didn't play well this game. Defense had been very,

545
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Speaker 8: very good all season until yesterday and so I believe

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Speaker 8: they gonna get it together. I can't go against my

547
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Speaker 8: pick now. I just need Herbert to come to and

548
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Speaker 8: save me.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, good good luck. I was gonna say good luck. Yeah,

550
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Speaker 5: but they got some injuries and maybe there's still time.

551
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Speaker 5: Kelvin is high on the Colts. He thinks they can

552
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Speaker 5: get to the AFC Championship Game.

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Speaker 6: I'm not there.

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Speaker 5: I just think I've seen a lot of Danny dimes

555
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Speaker 5: and I've seen teams got off get off the good starts.

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Speaker 5: They haven't beaten a lot of good teams. They winning

557
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Speaker 5: the teams that you supposed to be So I'm not

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Speaker 5: knocking them for that. Where are you on the Colts?

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Speaker 6: Are they're AFC? Are they're in the AFC Championship Game?

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Speaker 8: To you, you got to be a believer, Like, let's

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Speaker 8: be honest. Are they not a penalty away from being

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Speaker 8: undefeated on the field, like a senseless penalty, a penalty

563
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Speaker 8: that really you called that the loss? They are? Really

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Speaker 8: they should be an undefeated team, and so at some

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Speaker 8: point they need to be giving their credit and they're

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Speaker 8: just due because nobody expected the Indianapolis coach and Daniel

567
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Speaker 8: Jones to do what they're doing. Daniel Jones is an

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Speaker 8: MVP candidate because the coach have a great record and

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Speaker 8: he's a catalyst today. Yeah, Jonathan Taylor is running a

570
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Speaker 8: ball like crazy. The offensive line is ridiculous, but he's

571
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Speaker 8: making great bros. And I don't know if I would

572
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Speaker 8: say AFC Championship, but I am a believer in the

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Speaker 8: way the coach have played for sure.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, point differential points per game, rushing yards. I just

575
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Speaker 6: think it's.

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Speaker 5: Too early for me. And it was just like last

577
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Speaker 5: year with Sam Donald. You know what, I'll buy into

578
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Speaker 5: Daniel Jones When they're in the AFC Championship game.

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Speaker 6: That's when I'll buy it.

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Speaker 8: Hey, the Vikings, I guarantee the Vikings that they could

581
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Speaker 8: would take Sam Donald right now.

582
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Speaker 5: No, they wouldn't because they weren't going to pay that

583
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Speaker 5: guy and TJ the two biggest games of the year,

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Speaker 5: he went the bed. I'm sorry until if he would

585
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Speaker 5: have played well in one of those two games, he

586
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Speaker 5: would have still been on that they would have signed him.

587
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Speaker 5: The two biggest games. He came up small, and I

588
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Speaker 5: think that's what scared him.

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Speaker 1: They missed him. They should have had him. I said

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Speaker 1: they should have kept him then, all right, TJ. Appreciate you, man,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, my man.

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Speaker 8: Man, y'all keep up the great work. My bad hour

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Speaker 8: ago full of head.

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Speaker 6: Hey, you ain't gonna bring it up, and so all

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Speaker 6: good