WEBVTT - Hour 3 – Dan Wetzel, Albert Breer 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:03.520 You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:08.800 Sports Radio. It's the final hour on this Tuesday, Dan 0:00:08.880 --> 0:00:11.680 and the Dan. It's Dan Patrick Show. We'll talk some football. 0:00:12.160 --> 0:00:15.880 Our good buddy, Albert Breer Monday morning quarterback will join us. 0:00:15.880 --> 0:00:19.080 He's ranked all the college quarterbacks who will be eligible 0:00:19.120 --> 0:00:22.360 for the draft, and it's time to start tanking for 0:00:22.480 --> 0:00:30.600 Caleb Williams oh Drake May. If you're the Arizona Cardinals 0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:33.040 and you got two first round picks. 0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:33.400 Take them both. 0:00:34.200 --> 0:00:36.520 Yes, we want to make sure that we don't screw 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:38.760 this up. We're going to get both of those quarterbacks 0:00:38.800 --> 0:00:41.760 in the draft. Eight seven seven three DP Show email 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:46.159 addressdpat Danpatrick dot com, Twitter handle a DP show SA. 0:00:46.200 --> 0:00:48.640 Good morning. If you're watching on Peacock, thank you. That's 0:00:48.680 --> 0:00:51.800 our streaming partner. Download the app if you haven't done so. 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:54.200 Say good morning to our radio affiliates those chatting on 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:57.760 chat row Seaton. Update the poll results and what are 0:00:57.760 --> 0:01:00.240 we going to explore. In the final hour of Approke. 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:02.520 Hour two, we had I'm most scared of encountering a bear, 0:01:02.600 --> 0:01:06.240 sharker alligator. Right now, fifty six percent of the audience 0:01:06.360 --> 0:01:09.759 saying a shark. Nobody wants to encounter a shark. Okay, 0:01:09.840 --> 0:01:12.200 that sounds terrible. Bear is coming in at second with 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:15.320 a thirty seven percent. Not too many people scared alligator. 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:17.880 I don't want to encounter any of them. And then 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:20.440 you find out an alligator can run thirty miles an hour. 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:24.160 But alligators, how many videos have you seen of people, 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:26.160 you know, at a golf course or whatever and you're like, hey, 0:01:26.160 --> 0:01:27.200 there's an hour over there. 0:01:27.200 --> 0:01:31.800 That's crazy. I was at a golf resort, this is 0:01:31.920 --> 0:01:34.560 years ago, and there was an alligator and he was 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:37.800 right outside of the pond there and one of the 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:39.880 guys I'm with, he's like, how fast do you think 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:43.280 that thing is? I said, he only has to be 0:01:43.800 --> 0:01:47.319 fast enough to catch the slowest of us. Let's not 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:50.160 go over there. So he goes over there and next 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:52.960 thing you know, that thing turned so quickly with its 0:01:53.000 --> 0:01:56.560 tail and nearly took out his feet like sweat. You know, 0:01:56.840 --> 0:01:59.120 it would have been the karate kid taking him his 0:01:59.120 --> 0:01:59.520 feet out. 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:01.800 Yes, pump, I think these alligators are playing a long 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:03.200 game for a couple of decades. 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:04.240 They're setting this up. 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:06.120 They're just hanging at golf course and like, look, he's 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:08.840 not doing anything. I'll take a picture and maybe like 0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:10.520 two or three years from now, they're like, Okay, it's 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:11.600 feeding time, it's go time. 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:12.680 How long do they live? 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:13.600 Alligators? 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:17.760 Yeah? Checking or crocodiles. How long do bears live? 0:02:17.919 --> 0:02:18.760 Average lifespan? 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:21.359 Yeah? How long are is a life span of a shark? 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:23.280 Alligators? Thirty to fifty years? 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:26.480 Yeah, and you know they may go, oh, there's that 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:30.160 stupid guy tried to do this. You know, I'm back in. 0:02:30.560 --> 0:02:31.600 You know, ninety two. 0:02:31.840 --> 0:02:35.160 Brown bears getting you solid twenty to thirty, Okay. 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:36.040 What about sharks? 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:38.400 Grizzlies can live up to forty four years? 0:02:38.680 --> 0:02:39.519 Oh, what the heck? 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:40.520 Okay, unfair? 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:42.839 Sharks anywhere from fifteen to thirty years. 0:02:43.720 --> 0:02:47.240 What's the whole question for the final hour? Sleeepers, creepers, 0:02:47.760 --> 0:02:48.080 you know what? 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:48.320 Else? 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:52.800 We also had to today's recency bias pole question, which 0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:56.240 sounds cooler? Slam dunk champion, home run derby champion that 0:02:56.400 --> 0:03:00.200 stills holding that solid seventy two to twenty eight. We're 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:02.440 just down on the slam dunk contest. 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:04.760 For some reason, I think it's more impressive to hit 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:07.400 a home run than to have a dunk. 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:12.000 Just say, just say I've hit home runs, I can't 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:12.919 come close to dunking. 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:16.760 Yeah, me and you are home run guys in the room, 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:18.840 so you know how it is. Yeah, Marvin, could you 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:19.360 ever dunk? 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:20.440 No? 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:22.560 I could grab the room with both hands, but I 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:23.919 never coordinate, like just the. 0:03:23.960 --> 0:03:27.919 Kind of but you know what you're missing? What's that 0:03:28.000 --> 0:03:32.280 bigger hands? That's no. No, But that's why he can. 0:03:32.440 --> 0:03:34.320 He can't dunk because he couldn't pawn the ball. 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:35.800 That is a legit. 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:39.800 Yes, Okay, that's all I'm just pointing out to find Yes, 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:42.320 having been the only guy in the room who could 0:03:42.360 --> 0:03:44.080 dunk or hit a home run, you know. 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:48.880 Oh, don't disrespect twelve year old Marvin tnj autobody. 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:52.480 No, no, no home run and dunk those I did 0:03:52.520 --> 0:03:53.720 the combo. 0:03:53.560 --> 0:03:55.760 You could like your junior year in high school, probably 0:03:55.760 --> 0:03:57.000 accomplished both of those things. 0:03:57.040 --> 0:04:01.440 Yes I could. Yeah. Dan Wetzel, Yahoo's Ford's national columnists 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:03.960 since two thousand and three, New York Times best selling 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:07.200 author joins us on the program. You've been writing about 0:04:07.240 --> 0:04:11.520 the situation at Northwestern. What issues do you have with 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:12.320 this story? 0:04:16.040 --> 0:04:18.160 I guess my biggest if you want to call it 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:21.479 an issue, is we just don't really know the full 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:27.560 scope of what happened. Northwestern did this seven month investigation. 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:32.960 They get the whistleblower complaint last November. They hire an 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:37.520 outside law firm. They spend about seven months on this 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:41.640 interview fifty plus people, go through all the texts, emails, 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:46.480 they're doing player surveys through the years. Sounds very comprehensive 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:49.280 for what was going on in the culture of the 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:52.760 locker room. And then as a private institution, they don't 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:56.080 have to release this document, this investigation the way you 0:04:56.120 --> 0:04:58.440 would if you were a public school and this was 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:01.560 a public document, so they really an executive summary that 0:05:01.640 --> 0:05:07.280 has zero details into what actually happened, and let alone 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:10.360 kind of the context and the perspectives and things like that, 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:15.479 and so you know, no one really knows what the 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:22.520 situation was. They suspend, the president suspends Pat Fitzgerald on Friday, 0:05:22.800 --> 0:05:25.479 says okay, I've read, He's obviously read this whole thing, 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:30.800 and says two week suspension. I thought that was very 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:33.760 naive not to release the whole thing for everyone to 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:36.320 see and get out in front of this story. And 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:39.400 then the story comes out in the student newspaper and 0:05:39.440 --> 0:05:46.080 on ESPN that the original complaintant is telling his side 0:05:46.080 --> 0:05:49.919 of the story, which could be one percent accurate in 0:05:50.000 --> 0:05:51.680 all of that, But we don't have any of the 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:54.640 other perspective of the other fifty plus people that shaped 0:05:54.960 --> 0:05:59.560 the original decision. And once the details of the complaint 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:02.120 come out out, all of a sudden three days later, 0:06:02.640 --> 0:06:03.760 half of the cherild's fired. 0:06:04.320 --> 0:06:04.720 And so. 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:08.400 I think the rest of us are left to say, 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:11.240 I don't truly know, we can assume the worst, we 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:13.719 can assume this, or that, we don't really know what 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:17.520 happened and why. On Friday? Was it good enough for 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:22.800 West for I'm sorry for Northwestern to say you're suspended 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:26.200 for two weeks and then on Monday you know you're fired, 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:29.400 You're done, get out of here. That's a dramatic switch 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:32.520 in three days when no real new information had come out. 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:35.440 And that's where I started to go, Okay, let me 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:40.840 look at the timeline. Here, usually Friday news dump. Here 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:44.000 we are in July, and it almost felt like, hey, 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:46.599 can we sneak this one by the goalie here and 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:50.000 he's been suspended for two weeks. It felt like once 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:52.400 we knew he was suspended for two weeks, then our 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:56.480 curiosity was, well, wait a minute, what gets you suspended 0:06:56.520 --> 0:06:59.719 for two weeks in July and not maybe a couple 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:03.400 of game aims or how serious is this because nothing 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:06.839 changed from Friday to Monday except for Pat Fitzgerald got fired. 0:07:07.839 --> 0:07:11.120 Well yeah, that and and some of the details started 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:14.080 coming out. And that's why I think Northwestern I'm not 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:16.280 here to say Pat Fitzgerald should should or should not 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:18.840 have his job or they acted in the Maybe they 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:20.960 should have fired him on Friday and they made a 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:22.880 mistake then and they corrected it on Monday. I don't 0:07:22.960 --> 0:07:26.160 know all. I'm just looking at it from afar. We 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:28.880 don't know all the details. There is a big report, 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:33.680 there is a thorough investigation, and they sat there and said, Okay, 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:35.720 let's give him two weeks off in the middle of 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:39.640 summer where nothing is happening at Northwestern. If you're going 0:07:39.720 --> 0:07:42.800 to suspend someone for two weeks, these are the two weeks. 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:42.880 To do it. 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:47.920 Literally, no impact on anything. There's barely any recruiting going on. Uh, 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:50.120 you know, go to your lake house, come back in 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:52.360 two weeks. We're going to implement this stuff. We will. 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:55.600 We will root out the culture that's a problem. So 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:58.800 they were all in agreement on Friday and then the 0:07:58.840 --> 0:08:01.840 details come out. What they sho should have done right 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:04.320 or wrong, what if it led to this or not 0:08:04.640 --> 0:08:08.680 is released the entire report allow all of the context 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:13.000 and perspective to come out. I'm not saying any again, 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:16.080 the complaint could be one hundred accurate, and what is 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:20.760 described is is troubling and ridiculous and all of those things. 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:23.760 But many times of this stuff you want the full perspective. 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:25.960 This was a court this is a this is a 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:28.280 court case. It's not a criminal court case, it's not 0:08:28.320 --> 0:08:29.840 a civil court case. But it's in the court of 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:32.800 public opinion. Why are we keeping our coach? Why are 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:34.959 we firing our coach? What you don't do, if you're 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:38.440 the school or a defense attorney, is ever just let 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:41.760 the witness the complaint get up and tell his story 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:44.200 and then say we have no questions, we have no 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:48.400 opening statement, we have no rebuttal, we have no witnesses, nothing. 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:51.400 We're just going to sit here. And that's what Northwestern 0:08:51.720 --> 0:08:55.360 kind of seated the narrative in the court of public opinion. 0:08:55.440 --> 0:09:00.920 And then when it started to shift, perhaps rightfully they can't, 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:02.640 they all of a sudden change their mind and go 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:05.240 to the durastic step of firing, So I thought the 0:09:05.280 --> 0:09:08.600 whole I don't know that the result is wrong. I 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:13.040 just know the way they got to it is highly 0:09:13.120 --> 0:09:16.400 questionable and was botched. And so maybe again they should 0:09:16.440 --> 0:09:19.160 have fired him on Friday. Why did the president not 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:22.040 fire him on Friday and then on Mondays just say oh, 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:24.719 I'm just so troubled by this, this guy has to go. 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:28.240 Instead of saying, look, you know, whatever justification they came 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:31.200 up with on I assume it's he's been here seventeen years. 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:35.199 He you know, we can stop. We can stop hazing 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:39.320 very quickly. This isn't something that's like impossible to stop. 0:09:39.360 --> 0:09:41.560 We can you know, you can stop it right away. 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:44.480 It'll never happen on the twenty twenty three team. Instead, 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:47.560 it's just like he's got to go, so really awkward, 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:50.959 clumsy effort on how they got to this. Maybe it's 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:52.720 the right decision, maybe it's the wrong one. I just 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:55.360 neither I nor pretty much anyone other the president of 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:59.120 Northwestern has any idea about the full context of the story. 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:02.360 Yeah, in me, if he's eleven in one last year, 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:06.040 not one and eleven, he's not as vulnerable. It feels 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:09.640 like also did coaches know about this. Assistant coaches, the 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:14.319 new head coach, the interim head coach, players, seniors, you know, juniors. 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:17.840 Were they culpable in this? You know? Is there sexual 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:22.520 assault that's in here? Did they violate Northwestern's code of conduct? 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:25.520 I mean, there's a lot to unravel here. Other than 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:30.360 it felt like, hey, two weeks, let's move on, fire 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:33.880 the coach, let's move on. It just feels like this 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:36.679 is a ball of yarn, Dan, that is just going 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:40.000 to keep on unraveling here and might get even uglier. 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:44.480 Until you released the full report. It's going to keep 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:48.280 dripping out. That was an extremely naive by Northwestern to 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:51.240 assume to just say, hey guys, and look when you 0:10:51.360 --> 0:10:55.320 when you suspend someone like Pat Fitzgerald on a Friday 0:10:55.360 --> 0:10:58.520 in the summer, on the week of July fourth, it's 0:10:58.520 --> 0:11:01.120 a news dump to try to high the story, right, Yeah, 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:04.720 it's such an obvious news dump that it becomes the story. 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:10.640 Nobody is getting fooled, Like, wait, Pat Fitzgerald is getting suspended? 0:11:10.720 --> 0:11:12.120 What is going on here? Oh? 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:13.720 We just we just don't worry. 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:17.079 Uh, just calm down, Let everyone enjoy their weekend, cook 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:19.760 some hamburgers, and we'll be fine. No, everyone's gonna go 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:24.800 wait a minute, and and the naivete of thinking the complaintant, 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:28.120 who is not bound by any confidentiality, is gonna just 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:30.360 sit there and say, Okay, I'm good with this. I 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:33.520 definitely will not talk to the media about what I 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:37.320 so this this complainant saying I didn't get what I 0:11:37.360 --> 0:11:39.199 wanted out of this, so I'm gonna ramp it up 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:42.840 and I'm gonna tell my story was not told in 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:45.160 this executive summary. He just said there was some things 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:48.679 and you know, we'll just move on. He's saying, hey, heck, no, 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:50.880 I'm gonna tell my story. And good for him, is 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:53.600 that right? What he went through, the story he told, 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:56.679 and what he went through, he deserves to tell his story. 0:11:56.760 --> 0:11:58.920 So he goes out and tells it, and now all right, 0:11:58.920 --> 0:12:01.040 we gotta go yeah. And then you sit there and say, well, 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:02.880 they won four games in two years. But then on 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:05.000 the other side, they're trying to raise money for a 0:12:05.000 --> 0:12:08.319 new eight hundred million dollar football stadium, and Pat Fitzgerald 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:11.520 is extremely popular and connected with the So how much 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:13.840 at all of these things did that play in on Friday? 0:12:13.840 --> 0:12:15.760 We can't fire this guy. We got to build this 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:19.720 stadium or was it now well, he wasn't winning anyway, 0:12:21.120 --> 0:12:26.200 nobody knows anything, and everyone's now curious. America loves a mystery, 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:30.559 and Northwestern created a mystery on something that perhaps was 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:34.240 a simple solution or perhaps not. But eventually, this, this 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:37.560 report has to come out because perhaps there is context, 0:12:37.840 --> 0:12:41.280 perhaps there is other witnesses. Perhaps it gets worse. 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:41.880 I don't know. 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:43.800 I don't know what's in the report. Maybe it looks 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:45.320 even worse, and you go, how the heck did you 0:12:45.320 --> 0:12:47.559 not fire him on Friday? Or maybe you read it, 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:51.240 go eh, maybe you give the guy another chance. Northwestern, 0:12:51.280 --> 0:12:53.320 trying to hide by this, has done no good on 0:12:53.400 --> 0:12:56.120 a story that I agree is a yarn, a ball 0:12:56.120 --> 0:12:57.320 of yarn that's going to keep going. 0:12:57.679 --> 0:12:59.400 Good to talk to you is always Dan. Thank you 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:00.000 for joining us. 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:01.319 Thanks Dan, talk to you. 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:04.760 That's Dan Wetzel. Yeaho's sports national columnist and New York 0:13:04.800 --> 0:13:06.120 Times bestselling author. 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:07.320 Yeah. 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:10.600 I think the school paper played a role in this, 0:13:11.040 --> 0:13:16.080 in exposing this and going in and be willing to 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:20.400 find out something that could be ugly, that could reflect 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:26.520 poorly on your university. And not all journalists will do that. Sometimes, 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:30.400 you know, the older you get you get friendlier with somebody, 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:34.520 the coach or the athletic director, and you know, this 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:39.960 is Northwestern, this isn't the SEC. Well, this is Northwestern, 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:42.240 and they've struggled here the last couple of years. And 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:46.400 I think going one and eleven made him very vulnerable. 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:50.199 If you're eleven in one, not as vulnerable, even though 0:13:50.559 --> 0:13:54.160 you could be guilty of the same things. All Right, 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:57.240 we'll get phone calls coming out. We'll talk some football 0:13:57.280 --> 0:13:59.960 with Albert Breer. He has ranked all of the college 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:03.719 quarterbacks who are eligible for the draft, led by Caleb Williams. 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:06.360 You know, we have this every year where we anoint 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:10.360 a quarterback like that guy can't miss, and then they 0:14:10.400 --> 0:14:13.959 play one more year and then they suddenly can miss. 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:18.760 You know, you can look at Matt Leiner. You could 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:24.680 look at Christian Hackenberg. That was his freshman year, so 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:27.800 he didn't have just one more year. Like if he 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:30.720 was a freshman and he was eligible, they kept saying 0:14:30.720 --> 0:14:34.520 he'd be the number one overall pick Josh Rosen. You 0:14:34.520 --> 0:14:37.040 know these guys who maybe stay one more year, Like 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:38.480 you get a glimpse of them and you're like, oh 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:41.160 my god, that guy's unbelievable and then all of a 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:45.120 sudden you go maybe not as unbelievable. And then all 0:14:45.120 --> 0:14:48.000 of a sudden, you know, like Matt Barkley, you're like, 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:51.240 oh my god, that guy, Sam Darnold, that guy is 0:14:51.280 --> 0:14:53.720 gonna be great. And then no, you know, he's got 0:14:53.840 --> 0:14:56.680 kind of a loop in his delivery. There. This is 0:14:56.720 --> 0:15:00.920 what happens because now we get to pick. Now you 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:03.160 get analyzed. Now you're under the microscope. 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:06.840 Yeh seen, Cale William's getting high praise from people. 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:09.920 Oh, crazy high praise, crazy praise, Yes, Marv. 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:12.400 So Mark Sanchez did the right thing by leaving after 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:13.080 the junior year. 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:16.600 Probably so even though Pete Carroll was trying to throw 0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:24.360 himself in front of the door. Oh you know, maybe 0:15:24.720 --> 0:15:28.440 Mark wasn't ready, but in his mind he was ready 0:15:29.040 --> 0:15:30.760 and he was ready to get paid. What was he 0:15:30.800 --> 0:15:35.160 the fifth pick overall? So okay, I might not be ready, 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:38.720 but I'm ready to get paid. Right. So we'll talk 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:44.600 to Albert Breer about these quarterbacks and also Dalvin Cook 0:15:45.120 --> 0:15:49.000 kind of quiet, DeAndre Hopkins kind of quiet. And it 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:53.880 feels like that might be training camp situations where you're 0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:57.800 waiting for somebody, like the Jets with Breeze Hall him 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:01.800 coming back. I wondered about the Cowboys with Tony Pollard 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:04.960 and how healthy he's going to be. Could you give 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:07.800 them a little bit more time to get ready? But 0:16:07.920 --> 0:16:11.320 Dalvin Cook is going to cost you DeAndre Hopkins? Do 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:11.720 you want it? 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:12.360 Gosh? 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:15.360 If I'm the Patriots, I signed both of them. Like this, 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:18.480 it's such a faceless franchise. At least I can get 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:21.600 a couple of guys who were proven. You know, there's 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:24.600 name recognition, yes, Mark, Yeah. 0:16:24.680 --> 0:16:26.640 The Patriots, I think they have either Week two or 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:33.160 three or Sunday Night Football. And when I saw the schedules, like, oh. 0:16:31.080 --> 0:16:35.120 Like in Foxboy, well did you actually say oh? 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:40.640 I said em. I was like, I was like Giants, 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:43.960 Cowboys Week one. I was like, Okay, let's go get up. 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:45.520 Patriots and who. 0:16:45.920 --> 0:16:50.520 I don't even know. It didn't even matter, Like that's 0:16:50.520 --> 0:16:53.080 who it is. Let's take a break its Cardinals Patriots. 0:16:53.680 --> 0:16:57.120 No, it's not, it's not. Let's go We'll take a 0:16:57.120 --> 0:17:03.360 break back what Paul Eagles at Patriots. In the words 0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:10.920 of Jim Beheim, We're back after this. Simply save home security. 0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:15.000 They thought of everything. 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Be sure 0:18:24.480 --> 0:18:27.080 to catch us live every weekday morning nine until noon 0:18:27.160 --> 0:18:30.240 eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and 0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:33.680 you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR 0:18:34.119 --> 0:18:39.600 or stream us live on the Peacock App. It is 0:18:39.720 --> 0:18:44.240 never too early to talk about next year's draft. Albert Breer, 0:18:44.359 --> 0:18:48.400 senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist for the Monday Morning Quarterback. 0:18:48.440 --> 0:18:52.239 He is the Monday Morning Quarterback and he's look at 0:18:52.240 --> 0:18:55.800 the paperwork here. I got on all of these quarterbacks here. 0:18:56.160 --> 0:18:58.960 This is a deep dive. I mean he even went 0:18:59.000 --> 0:19:03.960 to Evan Leary at Kentucky and Washington State's Cameron Ward, 0:19:04.400 --> 0:19:07.600 Dion sanders Son. There's a lot of quarterbacks, but we 0:19:07.640 --> 0:19:11.160 start with Caleb Williams at the top. Are there any 0:19:11.240 --> 0:19:13.720 negatives with Caleb Williams. 0:19:14.600 --> 0:19:15.600 It's hard to find one. 0:19:15.680 --> 0:19:15.840 Dan. 0:19:16.000 --> 0:19:18.760 I mean, we're really at the point now where it 0:19:18.840 --> 0:19:21.919 feels like this is encroaching on that Andrew Luck Trevor 0:19:21.960 --> 0:19:24.879 Lawrence category. And I you know, I've been covering the 0:19:24.920 --> 0:19:26.959 league for almost twenty years, and I think over my 0:19:26.960 --> 0:19:29.520 lifetime there are four guys that are sort of in 0:19:29.520 --> 0:19:32.400 a different category from a prospects standpoint at that position. 0:19:32.960 --> 0:19:35.800 John Elway, Peyton Manning, Andrew Luck, Trevor Lawrence. 0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:39.359 That doesn't again, doesn't mean anything as far as what 0:19:39.400 --> 0:19:40.840 they became in the league, but just how they were 0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:43.320 seen coming out of college, and I think the lack 0:19:43.359 --> 0:19:46.159 of flaws with Caleb Williams, and of course we're going 0:19:46.240 --> 0:19:47.879 to pick him apart and he's gonna have all the 0:19:47.880 --> 0:19:51.200 pressure on him this fall because of that. But just 0:19:51.240 --> 0:19:53.080 as far as where they are, you know, going into 0:19:53.119 --> 0:19:55.480 their last year and then where they should be coming 0:19:55.520 --> 0:19:58.159 out of their last year in college, that's where Caleb 0:19:58.160 --> 0:20:01.080 Williams is and Drakes really well thought of too. 0:20:01.320 --> 0:20:03.919 But everybody I've talked to said, there is a gap. 0:20:04.080 --> 0:20:09.679 You know, it's Caleb Williams one gap, Drake May two gap, 0:20:09.720 --> 0:20:11.960 and then the pack. And so Caleb Williams is seen 0:20:12.040 --> 0:20:15.960 that way. Is the sort of generational prospect that Trevor 0:20:16.000 --> 0:20:18.760 Lawrence were Andrew Luckwer over the last fifteen years. 0:20:19.240 --> 0:20:22.600 You are joining us your own vacation, and we appreciate 0:20:22.640 --> 0:20:24.800 you joining us. But I'm looking in the background there 0:20:25.040 --> 0:20:28.480 you got the water, yeah, and there's some there's some kids. 0:20:28.600 --> 0:20:29.920 There are those your kids. 0:20:30.640 --> 0:20:32.080 So my daughter's right here. 0:20:31.960 --> 0:20:34.439 Okay, yeah, okay, I just there I was. 0:20:35.720 --> 0:20:38.720 And my my my I think my uh, I think 0:20:38.760 --> 0:20:41.120 my my son's trying to make air by driving as 0:20:41.160 --> 0:20:43.280 fast as he can buy the shot on his bike. 0:20:43.440 --> 0:20:46.560 Yeah, I just saw him. I saw zoom zoom by 0:20:46.600 --> 0:20:48.960 you there. But that picture is real. The water is 0:20:49.000 --> 0:20:50.200 real behind you there. 0:20:50.200 --> 0:20:52.479 Water is real. Yeah, the boats are real, all of it. 0:20:52.560 --> 0:20:55.840 Todd actually was Todd took me up here and we 0:20:55.880 --> 0:20:58.000 actually had a less scenic shot. And then I said, well, 0:20:58.040 --> 0:21:00.280