1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: The fields out a group proudly presents Huddle Ups with 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks. JP Shagrick, John Oser and NFL Network analyst 3 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: and former Jaguar Bucky Brooks bring you the latest on 4 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,319 Speaker 1: your Jackson pill Jack Wars. We've got to look to 5 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 1: the draft, We've got to look to developing the guys 6 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: that are currently here and obviously retain as many of 7 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: these guys as we can. Huddle Up With Bucky Brooks 8 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: starts right now. Welcome into the Huddle Up Podcast. Today 9 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: is Wednesday, March twenty ninth. J. P. Shadrick in with 10 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: NFL Network analyst Bucky Brooks, Jaguars dot Com senior writer 11 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: John Oser traveling back from Phoenix. Not with us today. 12 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:43,919 Speaker 1: Give us a listen on the podcast page at Jaguars 13 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 1: dot com or on the official Jaguars Podcast network that's 14 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio, iTunes, Spotify, or wherever else you download your pods. Bucky, 15 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: good afternoon to you. Good morning in La. As we 16 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: record this and the offseason continue use the NFL Annual 17 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: Meeting is coming to a close. It's a big, huge 18 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: event in the off season now and the league likes 19 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: to have these things every two three weeks in the 20 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: off season. This is certainly a big week. Yeah, big week. 21 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 1: A lot of things going on, a lot of news 22 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: to discuss and report. And I don't know why you 23 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: say it's the off season. There's never an off season. 24 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 1: There's get ready season, and then there's the season. And 25 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: right now everyone is getting ready. They're getting ready for 26 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: the draft, they're getting ready for the players to come 27 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: back into the building for off season workouts, and then 28 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: they're getting ready to enjoy my favorite part of it, 29 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: OTAs in minicamp. I love that part, just to see 30 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: the pride track, all the stuff that's going on to 31 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: get ready. Before you know it, JP, we're right back 32 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: in the mix and we'll be playing football. Things are 33 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: on the horizon, actual football players on an actual field, 34 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: not wearing actual pads, but they are actually going through 35 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: the motions at least, and that's a step in the 36 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: right direction. Let's review Doug Peterson. He spoke as all 37 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: coaches do during the l annual meeting. There's a Coach's 38 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: Breakfast AFC one day, NFC the next. And Peterson was 39 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: speaking earlier this week Monday at the Built More in Phoenix, 40 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: and the big question about the offense moving ahead, Trevor 41 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:18,519 Speaker 1: Lawrence going into year two in his system, and Doug 42 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,959 Speaker 1: Peterson in year two, what can you expect from this 43 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: Jaguar's offense. You know, for Trevor, it's just understanding. Now 44 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: he knows Christian And'sa and Evan and he knows all 45 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: those guys around him. It's just now, we need to 46 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: get better in the passing game. We need to we 47 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: need to take it up another another notch. And you know, 48 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: Travis Etn, Jamichael Hasty, Snoop Connor, you know, guys in 49 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: the running game, We've got to be better at angles, 50 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: we got to be better at hitting holes. We got 51 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: to see the whole better. There's just those little detailed 52 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 1: things that now in year two we'll be able well 53 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: year two for us, it's year three for them, but 54 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: that they'll be able to see and we can show 55 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: them now on tape this spring, those those issues and 56 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: that's where we get that's where we get better, and 57 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: that's where we take another step. It's just the details 58 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: of what we're doing in all three phases. And you know, 59 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: that's why this offseason will be exciting to get the 60 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: guys back and we're not necessarily installing the offense again 61 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 1: or the defense again. Right, it's now, it's just how 62 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: we make it better and how we use our players 63 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: better in certain situations. Yeah. So, Bucky, the details of 64 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: this offense, just the little things, the timing, maybe the 65 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: difference and routes and guys running and just getting that 66 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: chemistry together and building upon what they did last season. Yeah, 67 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: that's the advantage that you have when you don't change systems. 68 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: You have the same head coach, offensive coordinator, you have 69 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: the bulk of the players returning. You have your core 70 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: offensive players all returning. Now you're building upon what it 71 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: is that you establish last season for the offense. For 72 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence in particularly, it's a very exciting time. Trevor 73 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: now has an opportunity to play with the same set 74 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: of playmakers on the outside with an upgrade and Calvin 75 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: Ridley coming on board. And we won't try put too 76 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: much on Calvin, but let's everyone needs to understand very 77 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: special player that is joining the crew, and this offense 78 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: can be really special. With what has been assembled, I 79 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: would expect the Jaguars did not only have a top 80 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: five offense, but to be one of the more explosive 81 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: and exciting offenses that we see in the National Football 82 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: League next season, I got a score, right. I mean, 83 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: this Jaguars defense at earlier in the season was good 84 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 1: against getting taking the ball away, and then later in 85 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:34,359 Speaker 1: the season got back to that. But I mean this 86 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: offense average went twenty four points per game. I think 87 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 1: that was top ten in the league, and then but 88 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: the leaders in the NFL are like twenty eight, twenty 89 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: nine points per game. You add two three points a game, 90 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: then then all of a sudden, you're right there in 91 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: the top five. Yeah. So I would think with Doug Peterson, 92 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: the offense being his baby, the magic number that he's 93 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 1: gonna talk to the team each year is thirty. You 94 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: get to thirty points each week, it's gonna be thirty. 95 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: The thirty points you're gonna win games in this league. 96 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 1: And it takes the pressure off the defense being a 97 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 1: what we call a shut them down defense to being 98 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: an opportunistic defense, which is what we ended up having 99 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: last season, taking the ball away, getting timely stops in 100 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: the red zone, making just a handful of plays to 101 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: be able to get off the field to win it. 102 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: But the pressure the unit, the side of the ball 103 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: that should carry the water has to be the offense 104 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: because that's where not only where the resources have been 105 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: kind of expended, but that's where I would say the 106 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 1: best players are your quarterback, you think about all the 107 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 1: White House? Do you think about Travis Hitzien in the backfield? 108 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: The offense has to be ready to go each and 109 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: every week. I'll say this, and typically you want the 110 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: defense to kind of guide you to the championship, but offensively, 111 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: no off days. They have to be able to hit 112 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 1: that number. It has to be thirty points, and so 113 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: there'd be a lot of pressure. I think you'll see 114 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: maybe a more ornery Doug Peterson in terms of demanding 115 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 1: a little more from the offense because he understands if 116 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: this offense is up and running and they can be 117 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: one of the top two or three scoring offenses, the 118 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:05,559 Speaker 1: Jaguars are gonna win a ton of games next season. 119 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: It's a scoring league. I mean, you don't. You're not 120 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: winning games. This is not the two thousand Ravens. They're not. 121 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: You know, you're not flip building on defense and winning it, 122 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: you know seventeen seven anymore. No, but it's a different 123 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 1: look for us because remember now for the Jacks. Every 124 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: time the Jackson has been good has been less about 125 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 1: the offense and more about the defense. Saxonville and going 126 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: all the way back, it's about the defense making plays. 127 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: This will be a flip because maybe for the first 128 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: time in franchise history, we're talking about an offense that 129 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: is high powered. I mean putting points up on the board, 130 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 1: lightening it up, and so Jo I give him a 131 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: hard time. John Oshan is always like, man, let's put 132 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: it in the air. Well, they're going to put the 133 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,919 Speaker 1: ball in the air because now the firepower is in 134 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: place and Doug Peterson is very comfortable with the quarterback 135 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: to make it happen like that. Bucky, you mentioned something 136 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: earlier and you know about Calvin Ridley and what to 137 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: maybe expect from him, and I don't exactly remember what 138 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 1: you said, but you said maybe temperate a little bit. 139 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: What can we expect from Italy? What should fans expect 140 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: from Itdley in terms of a number or you know, 141 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: it's his first time on the field and a year 142 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: and a half. Yeah, first, I'm on the field in 143 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: a year and a half. That's why I say temperate, 144 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: because he has to knock some of the rust off. 145 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: It's hard to go that long without playing and kind 146 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: of hit the ground running. That said, if the Calvin 147 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: Ridley that is that was last on the field, the 148 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: one that was the top five in terms of receiving yards, 149 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: a guy to stepped in and replace Julio Jones as 150 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: the Falcon's number one receiver. If that guy makes his 151 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: way to do all, it's gonna be a problem. It's 152 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: gonna be a problem because he is similar to what 153 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: we have, but a little different. Spectacular route runner, very 154 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: interchangeable in terms of where he can line up on 155 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: the field. Terrific pass catcher, and the big plate element 156 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: could come from Calvin Ridley because not because of the 157 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: speed factor, but because he is such a route runner. 158 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: And if he can begin to command attention as a 159 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: number one, now you'll see Christian kirk in Ingram and 160 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: Zay Jones. You could see their numbers explode because now 161 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: defenses have to account for that. Because we remember last year, 162 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: teams were able to kind of play the Jaguars straight up. 163 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: They didn't necessarily commit double teams on occasion. Maybe they 164 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: would go after Evan Ingram, maybe they would kind of 165 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: do Christian Kirt in the slot. Well, now, if you 166 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: have to commit a full double team, that means everyone 167 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: else is in one on one situations. And so let's 168 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: put it this way. If I'm in the offensive room, 169 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: what you put up is four one thousand yard numbers, 170 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 1: meaning three wide receivers that hit the thousand yard mark 171 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: Travisy and ten is over a thousand yards rushing. You 172 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: do those things, now your offense as a byproduct of 173 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: that production, your offense does get close to thirty points 174 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: to night. I'm gonna imagine that hasn't happened a whole 175 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: lot around the league. Right, three thousand yard receivers and 176 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: a thousand yard rushers, it hasn't happened a lot. I 177 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: remember the Arizona Cardinals did way way way back. Maybe 178 00:08:57,920 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: when Kurt Warner and those guys are then I think 179 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: that might have been a super Bowl team when they 180 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: has Stev Recon those guys. But it absolutely can be done. 181 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: I mean, look at how productive the offense was last 182 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: year and Doug Peterson's first year. Well, now you know 183 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 1: the system, he knows the players, and so instead of 184 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: installing a generic system, now you're taking the system and 185 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: you're beginning to tweak it around the talent that you have. 186 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: And so we'll keep it quiet because we don't want 187 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: the worst of the NFL to think that we're being 188 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: like arrogant and cocky or whatever. But the expectation should 189 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: be that this is going to be a really good 190 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 1: Jack's team. Offensively, they're going to light it up, and 191 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: so there's something that comes with it. I'm excited to see. 192 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: But yeah, the optimism should be this as team has 193 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: an opportunity to have three one thousand yards receivers and 194 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: a thousand yard running back, and if you do that, 195 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: you're gonna hit the thirty point mark. You heard it 196 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: here first, Bucky Brooks is calling it and what a 197 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: season that would be. This is the Huddle Up Podcast. 198 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: J P. Shaddick, Bucky Brooks, Let's swip in a defense now. 199 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 1: Doug Peterson at the AFC Coaches Breakfast earlier this week 200 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: at the NFL Annual Meeting. Priority number one pass rush. Yeah, 201 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: I think we got to improve our pass rush. I 202 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: think that's that's uh, that's vital, particularly on third down. 203 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:14,719 Speaker 1: You know, I thought we were we were good in 204 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: the run. We just got to continue to get better 205 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 1: in the run. And and and show up some things there. 206 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: But you know, I think to the passing game is 207 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: the area that we have to look at and address 208 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: this offseason. And and um, you know, clean that part 209 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: of it up. And it all starts up front, putting 210 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: pressure on the quarterback. And whether we're doing that with 211 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: four guys or five guys, you want to see Treyvon 212 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: take take that next step in year two. You know, 213 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 1: you want to see Josh come along again as an 214 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: edge rusher, you know, and and and really in his 215 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: fifth year, you know, make an impact you know with 216 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: the team, and and um, you know, we're confident that 217 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 1: both those guys can do that. We're we were excited 218 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: to extend Roy, you know, and get him back. And 219 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 1: you know, I think I think the Photocosci is a 220 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: guy that can really make another step in the in 221 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 1: the in the right direction within the scheme. And so 222 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: the pieces are there, and now it's just a matter 223 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: of continuing to coach and improve in all areas. How 224 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: does Trayvon Walker take a next step? What does that 225 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 1: look like? It's what does that feel like in this 226 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: offseason for him going in the year two. He's a big, physical, 227 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: talented guy. But what is the next step and what 228 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: does that look like for him? The next step is 229 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: Trayvon Walker understanding who he is as a player and 230 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 1: just being the best version of that. It doesn't mean 231 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: that he has to be a double digit sack art 232 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: off his deaths, not necessarily in his repertoire. It means 233 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: that each and every time he lines up when we 234 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 1: look at forty four, he dominates the game in some 235 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: former capacity. That might be creating disruptive plays at the 236 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 1: point of attack against the run game, that might be 237 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: dominating and knocking people back so others can make plays. 238 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: It is being a guy that is worthy of being 239 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: the number one pick in terms of just impact and disruption, 240 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: and so a lot of people that have kind of 241 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: taken him to task in the past and turn of like, hey, 242 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: he wasn't a high sack producer at Georgia. Is he 243 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: ever going to be there? Well, let's take that off 244 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: the table. Can he be a guy that dominates the 245 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: game as a run defender. Can he be a guy 246 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: that creates opportunities for others to get it done? He 247 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: just has to be a dominant player and whatever that 248 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: looks like for him based on his skill set we 249 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: can live with, but he just has to be a 250 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: dominant player. In year two, Bucky, we saw down the 251 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: stretch Josh Allen's numbers really take off. Sack game, tackles 252 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: for loss. In the last month of the season, he 253 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 1: was all over it for this Jags team. So it's 254 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 1: year five for him, obviously a contract year for him 255 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: coming up. This is all coming together for Josh, but 256 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:48,599 Speaker 1: he's never really had that huge breakout season maybe his 257 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: early years, first year when he went to the Pro Bowl. 258 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: Other than that, it hasn't been, you know, consistent, Let's 259 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: put it that way. He's been inconsistent. And how do 260 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: you build that now in year five? And does that 261 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 1: come along with these other guys growing around him as well? 262 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: It can come together. Another thing that we have to 263 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: understand a lot of times when we draft players, we 264 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 1: draft with them hoping that they will project to be something. Well, now, 265 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: when guys playing the league, you have to evaluate them 266 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 1: and literally view them for what they are. What I 267 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,839 Speaker 1: would say Josh Allen is is a guy who has 268 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: the potential to get to ten plus sacks, but he 269 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: might be a eight to eleven guy his entire career. 270 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: What he can be. And what he's shown is he 271 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: can be a productive, high effort player who has a 272 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: knack for creating turnos. And so, whether that's strip sacks, 273 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: whether that's scooping scores, whether that's picking off passes, he 274 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: has to find a way to make his impact felt. 275 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: As much as I would love for guys to grow 276 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 1: and to be dominant pass rushers, it might be something 277 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: that has to be more schematic, created by design, as 278 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: opposed to them whipping in winning people in one on 279 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: one matchups. And so it might be a team to 280 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: Jags that maybe they only get to forty sacks, but 281 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 1: they find a way to create pressure and they take 282 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: the ball over. And so part of the way that 283 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: you play on defense is to compliment the offense. And 284 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: so if in the first part of the podcast we 285 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: talked about the offense putting up thirty points, yeah, well 286 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: now defensively is well, let's just Ben, but don't break. 287 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: Find a way to be great in the red zone, 288 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: find a way to get a handful of sacks on 289 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: third down to get off the field. And so your 290 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: emphasis and your play calling changes to compliment what you 291 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: do on offense. And so when I talk about Doug 292 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: Peterson maybe putting more pressure on the offense. It's him 293 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: looking at the roster, looking at the team and saying, 294 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: the strength of the team is the offense. I'm gonna 295 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: make sure that this offense knows they got to go 296 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: every week. But I'm gonna be on the defense to 297 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: understand that your style has to compliment how we play 298 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: on offense. And one name that that Doug Peterson didn't 299 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: mention in that bite we just heard was Devin Lloyd 300 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: and how he could fit in the future of this 301 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 1: past rush as well. It's something we didn't see a 302 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: lot of from him last year. That wasn't his role, 303 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: but that can always change, and he has an offseason 304 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: that he's around and available. He missed all the training 305 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: camp last year. He missed all the training camp, and 306 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: it has to be one of the top priorities regardless 307 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: of what people say, like whether you're disappointed in his 308 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: production as a rookie, whatever, he's the first round pick. 309 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: You gotta figure out a way to take what he 310 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: offers and maximize it. And so that is the conversation 311 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: that Doug Peterson has. A defense coordinator might call, well, 312 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: how can we put Devin Lloyd in a position where 313 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: he can impact the game in some capacity. Is that 314 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: maybe using more sub packages, him coming off the edge, 315 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: or being an additional pass rusher in these unique and 316 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: exotic looks. Is it, Hey, maybe he does play more 317 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: off the ball linebacker and stars, or maybe he doesn't 318 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: and he's the role player that comes in. He has 319 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: to have a role that is an imp that allows 320 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: him to make an impact. In fact, all those second 321 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: year players taken at the top Trayvon Walker, Devin Lloyd, Chadmuma, 322 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: they have to make outstanding leaps in terms of growth 323 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: in their games. They had to be key contributed to season. 324 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: Block in your seat to the bank this fall, place 325 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: your deposit at Jaguars dot com slash ticket seat selection 326 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: coming soon and the perfect spot is waiting for you. 327 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: In twenty twenty three, Bucky, We're back at a moment 328 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: we'll hear from Jaguars owners Shot Khan, who feels like 329 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: they've cracked the code to NFL success. That's next on 330 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: the Huddle Up Podcast. Welcome back to the Huddle Up 331 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: Podcast and Daily's Place kicks off another unforgettable season. April fourteenth, 332 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: Country superstar Kenny Chesney comes to Town music lives here 333 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: and Dailies has something for everyone. Old Dominion, Tadesky Truck's Band, 334 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: Yellow Card, Routing, Clan and Nas, and much much more. 335 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: A full list of shows and tickets available at Daily's 336 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: Place dot com. Let's hear from Jaguars Owners dot com. 337 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: J P. Shattrick, Bucky Brooks at the Huddle Up podcast. 338 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 1: Well Shod con visited with our compatriot John Ozier, who 339 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 1: was in Phoenix this week. He's not with us on 340 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: the podcast. The interview coming up soon, I think Wednesday 341 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: afternoon on Jaguars dot com. A sneak preview here on 342 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 1: the sustainability of the football side. Moving ahead from the 343 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,719 Speaker 1: Jaguars owner, I think what gives me the confidence of 344 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: sustainability is, you know, head coach, general manager and the quarterback. 345 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: I think you know they were here for the long haul. 346 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 1: And with them, I think, you know, we've lost a 347 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,360 Speaker 1: couple of players this year's salary cap by you know, 348 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:44,199 Speaker 1: I hated to see him leave, but that's really a 349 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: measure of success that you can't hang on to all 350 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: your players, you know, and so then obviously the skill, 351 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 1: the trick is to replace them, hopefully, you know, with 352 00:17:55,680 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: better players. So you know, we've got the draft primarily 353 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: to develop players for the future and a system that 354 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: is sustainable. He said it in another part of the interview, 355 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: Bucky that he felt like he had they had cracked 356 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: the code. The Jaguars had cracked the code in the NFL. 357 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 1: But yeah, head coach, GM, quarterback. It takes time as 358 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 1: an owner. I mean, remember he took over in the 359 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: twenty twelve season, first time as an owner, had not 360 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: been around the NFL before, and you know he's gone 361 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: through different iterations of coach and GM and changes and 362 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: you know, having to fire coaches after a year that's 363 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 1: not sustainable. But now he feels like that's a step 364 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 1: in the right direction. And obviously with the success at 365 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 1: the end of the the last season, it's got to give 366 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 1: ownership a lot of positive vibes if you will moving ahead, 367 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: it does give you a lot of confidence and there's 368 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,400 Speaker 1: a lot of positivity, not only because of the way 369 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: the product looked on the field, but I would say 370 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 1: the chemistry and the cooperation that appeared to exist between 371 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: the general manager, hit coach and the quarterback, meaning that 372 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: trem Balkan Doug Peterson appeared to see the game through 373 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: the same set of eyes. The players that are brought 374 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 1: in matched the system and so you're able to have success. 375 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: It is carried out by having the right quarterback in 376 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 1: place who is able to evolve and become the leader 377 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: of the team. We have seen a tremendous amount of 378 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 1: growth from Trevor Lawrence in terms of being the leader. 379 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: He was tasked with tough circumstances as a rookie, but 380 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 1: really grew throughout his second season where we saw a 381 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,959 Speaker 1: player who might have been struggling midway through to really 382 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: take a huge step forward and kind of become not 383 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 1: only the leader of the team, but become, let's say, 384 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: a top ten quarterback in this league. Now, the expectation 385 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: when you have the synergy is how can we take 386 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 1: it to the next step. How can the cooperation in 387 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 1: chemistry continue with the general manager, head coach, and how 388 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:54,199 Speaker 1: can the franchise quarterback make the lead from good to 389 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: great where he plays like a top five player. Where 390 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: every time we have a conversation about the quarterbacks, whether 391 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 1: it's in the AFC in the league, his name is 392 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: always included in the ranks or with the ranks of Mahomes, Burrow, 393 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 1: Josh Allen and those guys. That's the next up because 394 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: when you have a tough five quarterback, you always have 395 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: a chance to compete for the title. That is the goal, 396 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: and that is part of what you do as a team. 397 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: Build a team to support the quarterback. Once you have 398 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback in place, teams from chasing it for 399 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 1: a long long time. And you know, Bucky, it could 400 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: be the other way around too, that this team could 401 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: be in the ballpark that the Ravens are in right now, 402 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: trying to deal with what's the future of Lamar Jackson 403 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: or the Packard. I mean that's the Packers has been 404 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: in a good place for about twenty five years, but hey, 405 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: they're in the midst of changing again. The Jets are 406 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 1: trying to figure it out. I mean, all that is 407 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 1: in the headlines. The Jaguars aren't involved in any of that, 408 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 1: which is okay, that's a good step, but it is 409 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 1: it's priority number one for organizations to get that thing 410 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: right quarterback, and you'll see what teams will spend and 411 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: do to get it right, and to get it right 412 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: in the draft is the best way to go about it. 413 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,439 Speaker 1: This is what this team has done Yeah, this is 414 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 1: what this team has done. So now everyone has to 415 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 1: understand and I think Jaguars fans have to know this 416 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 1: and they have to get used to the number that 417 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: could come at the end of next season. If Trevor 418 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: Lawrence plays well, Trevor Lawrence is going to be a 419 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: fifty to fifty five million dollar quarterback each year. That's 420 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 1: just the going rate. You have to be okay with it. 421 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: With the deals that are on the horizon. Joe Burrow, 422 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, Herbert Herbert Herbert, Yeah, what are they gonna get? 423 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson will get whatever he's gonna get. The price 424 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: tag for a marquee quarterback, a franchise quarterback, particularly a 425 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: good one, is going to be over the fifty million 426 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,959 Speaker 1: dollar market. So everyone has to understand it. And if 427 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: you're the Jaguars, you have to make sure. And this 428 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: is why it's important that the draft picks that we 429 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: talked about, the Trayvon Walkers, the Devin Lloyd's, the Chad Moments, 430 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,439 Speaker 1: the guys that are in this twenty three class, you 431 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 1: have to hit on those guys because when you pay 432 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: number sixteen, you're going to have to depend on the newbies. 433 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 1: The rookies, the young guys on cheap contracts to make 434 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: key contributions, and so it changes the dynamic of the team. 435 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: And so you have to understand it, and everyone has 436 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: to have this conversation privately in the building. When we 437 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 1: pay Trevor Lawrence, we have to make sure that the 438 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,719 Speaker 1: team is built for a big money quarterback. And so 439 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 1: that means we got to make sure that we get 440 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: the young guys ready to go. We develop those guys. 441 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: We got to identify which core players are essential to 442 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 1: number sixteen playing well. We got to pay those guys, 443 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: and then we got to continue to figure out a 444 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: way to win with young players playing in those key 445 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: areas on both sides of the ball. You know how 446 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: far fifty million dollars will go in Jacksonville, Florida. I mean, 447 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: you know you know what I would do. I would 448 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 1: say this. I would love for someone to let me 449 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: have fifty million dollars and let me just experiment and 450 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: then I can report back. Yeah. In fact, I think 451 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: that should be a year thing that we can start. 452 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: That we can just kind of go fund me maybe 453 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: million knows, and then I can go around Jacksonville for 454 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: a year. I'll come, I'll moved Like we do it 455 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: for a year. We just see what it looks like 456 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: and I can report and blog and like Instagram and 457 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: chronicle everything that you can win fifty million dollars in 458 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: Duball County and what it looks like. It'll be a 459 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: lot of fun, JP, That's what I know. There's no 460 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: doubt about that fun will be had if you have 461 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: fifty million bucks. And he'd have it over a long 462 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: term contract every single year as well. All right, final thought, 463 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 1: whether you here, Bucky, it's Pro day season. I know 464 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: you've been all over on NFL Network when was Ohio State. 465 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: That was recently and apparently the performance of c J. 466 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: Stroud was strong enough to move him to the top 467 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: of your quarterback rankings and that made some waves this week. Well, 468 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: it only makes ways because when I look at the 469 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: quarterback spot, you really have to put the line after 470 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: Bryce Young and CJ. Stroud in whatever order. The reason CJ. 471 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: Stroud is depicted for me because we talk about our prototypes. 472 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:01,880 Speaker 1: You look at the prototype prototypical dimensions, height, weight, arm, 473 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: talent IQ. He has all those things. He's six two 474 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 1: sixty three two twenty plus pounds like that is typically 475 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: what plays in the league. Bryce Young is special. I 476 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: mean he's a savant. He has all the IQ, all 477 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: the things that you look for, the intangible trades, the 478 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 1: way he finished his game, the way that he throws them, 479 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: all of that stuff is great. He tiny though, he's 480 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: small a little and so when you think about in 481 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: a big man's game, durability could be an issue. Can 482 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: he withstand the punishment and the pounding to play the position? 483 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: If you feel okay with that, I mean, he's gonna 484 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: be going. Here's what I'm pretty certain of. One of 485 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 1: those quarterbacks is gonna be in the division, and so 486 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 1: we're gonna have to be able to deal with one 487 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: of those guys unless something happens in both of those 488 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,199 Speaker 1: guys end up in division. When we talk about the 489 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: Houston Texas and Indianapolis culture respectively, but one of those 490 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: guys is gonna make the win division. So we gotta 491 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: be ready to defend it. All I know is that 492 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: when Stroud stands back there and has no pressure, I 493 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 1: mean he doesn't miss. I mean he literally asked you 494 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 1: can stay. Two years ago in the Horseshoe, he put 495 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: up like six touchdowns on him, five of them in 496 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: the first half. It wasn't even a ball game because 497 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 1: the guy had no pressure on him all day. And then, 498 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, Bryce Young in big moments down in 499 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 1: game back against the wall, when you need some fourth 500 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: down throws or you need a drive like, he's your guy. 501 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 1: He's got some moxie to him. And you know, he 502 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: can get guys involved that haven't been involved all game 503 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, they're they're catching footballs for you. 504 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,199 Speaker 1: And because he's putting it on a spot even with 505 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: pressure in his face, I mean that that's something you 506 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: just can't really teach a lot of that stuff. No, 507 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 1: you can't teach. You can't teach this stuff. And you 508 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: know it's funny because he plays the game in slow 509 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: motion from the pocket, it is very easy for him. 510 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: He's great when it comes to delivering the ball and 511 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: consistently hitting the strikes on. His superpower is really his accuracy, 512 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: his touch, timing, and anticipation. You can say the same 513 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: thing about Bryce Young, he just does it in a 514 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: different way. I've made the comparison that when I look 515 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 1: at these two guys, it reminds me of the Golden 516 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 1: State Warriors backcourt where you have a shooter and a scorer. CJ. 517 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: Stroud is the shooter. It is textbook, it is pretty, 518 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 1: it's flawless, very much like Clay Thompson. Bryce Young is 519 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: a scorer. He puts the ball in the basket of 520 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: variety of ways, much like Steph Curry. And so which 521 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: one do you want to hit your wagon to when 522 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 1: it comes to building your team. Doesn't always look it 523 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: doesn't look the same, but both guys find a way 524 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:29,439 Speaker 1: to get it done. It's just a matter of what 525 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: you like. Bucky. Later this week the Florida Pro Day. 526 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: I believe that's Thursday, and I believe you'll have coverage 527 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: of that on NFL Network. And that brings up AAnthony 528 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 1: Richardson in this discussion as well. Is he gonna actually 529 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: do Pro Day or not? What's his deal? Yeah, he's 530 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 1: doing Pro Day because there are a lot of people 531 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: that are fascinated about him. I think the funny thing, guys, 532 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,239 Speaker 1: our listeners and people down and do all County. You're 533 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: certainly familiar with him because he's right down the block 534 00:26:55,640 --> 00:27:00,360 Speaker 1: in Gainesville, And so the conversation outside of the they're 535 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: talking about him is if he's Cam Newton and one 536 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: of the greats that we've seen, and he's gonna be 537 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 1: a top five player and he's gonna take over the 538 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: league because he's six four, two hundred forty four pounds, 539 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: runs a four to forty three, has a big time arm, 540 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 1: and he make plays. The issue that I have is 541 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: when you look at how he played in the SEC, 542 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 1: those traits and attributes haven't popped, and so you're really 543 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 1: gambling that he is going to be something that he 544 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 1: hasn't shown to this point. Unlike Cam Newton, who was 545 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 1: the most dominant player in the SEC when he came 546 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: out that season in Auburn, who won the Heisman Trophy, 547 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson doesn't have that. Cam Newton won a national 548 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,360 Speaker 1: title with a team that only had one other pro 549 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 1: and Nick Fairley shoot even Janna Hurts. Jayla Hurst was 550 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: what SEC Offensive Player of the Years a freshman, he 551 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 1: was a Deshaun Watson two minute drive away from stealing 552 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 1: the game with a walk off win. Jendon Hurst had 553 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 1: more rushing yards and touchdowns and all of that. And 554 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: so it is interesting because I'm trying to figure out 555 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,360 Speaker 1: if this is fluff where people are just selling Anthony 556 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: Risuson as a top five or do we really have 557 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: people that believe he's a top five talent and someone 558 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: is going to hand in that car because we talked 559 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,959 Speaker 1: about it. He might end up in a division if 560 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Coast maybe make that move at four for him, 561 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: and oh boy, that'd be something to see. He's had 562 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: big moments, but no offense to South Florida. They've come 563 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: against teams like South Florida where he's running for eighty 564 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 1: yard touchdowns and throwing for seventy five yarders. Unto your point, 565 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: the weeks after that against big SEC opponents not quite there. 566 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: So we'll see how that translates moving ahead. We'll look 567 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: forward to that Pro day on Thursday. Bucket. It's always 568 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: a pleasure. Great to be back with you. It's been 569 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. We'll hey, let's do it again 570 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: next week. Hey man, let's do it man, It's gonna 571 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: be fun. JP love it, Bucky Brooks for Joe Fortunado 572 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: and Print Reaver. I'm JP Shadrick. Thank you for listening. 573 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: You catch all our podcasts on the podcast page. Imagine 574 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: that it's on Jaguars dot Com or the Official Jaguars 575 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: Podcast Network. On iHeartRadio, iTunes, Spotify, or wherever you download 576 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: your pods. 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