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Speaker 2: All right, let's are live on a Monday edition of

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Speaker 2: Cleveland Brown's Daily. Merely Bo the Great z. You know,

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Speaker 2: we tease on this show sometimes about accurately that sometimes

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Speaker 2: things happen right after we're off the air. Three oh five,

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Speaker 2: three oh six, that's right. This was on a different level. Reportedly,

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Speaker 2: this was a wait, what h what just happened? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: So what did this thing through? Because if I was

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Speaker 2: alerted of it from you, I can't remember what the

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Speaker 2: hell I was doing Friday night of a feeling.

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Speaker 3: No, it was me, GiB.

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Speaker 2: It was our group chat though.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I was like wait a minute, what.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I was like I saw it, and

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Speaker 2: then I saw like a bunch more and I was like,

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Speaker 2: whoa what? So I looked at it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you spend ten minutes trying to verify it. Sure,

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Speaker 3: it's exactly who is this?

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Speaker 2: We just acquired Darrin Smith, reportedly, and then you just

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Speaker 2: go holy smokes like that is an absolute game changer

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Speaker 2: in every way with the doctor ordered all of it.

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Speaker 2: Uh Ze, you've been around obviously all weekend. You've been

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Speaker 2: paying very close attention to this. Again, still nothing official

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Speaker 3: But we are waiting on the physical physical and signing

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Speaker 3: the contract may or may not be happening today.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, So that's that's where you were on that.

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Speaker 2: So this is a This was a stunning Friday news drop.

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Speaker 4: My friend seventy twenty eight pm Tom Pellisero tweeted out,

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Speaker 4: the Vikings are trading three time Pro bowlass rushers A

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Speaker 4: Darius Smith to the brown sources tell me and rap sheet.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, it was about seven thirty Friday late out

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Speaker 4: of nowhere. Awesome the Browns and ultimately the compensation. The

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Speaker 4: Browns give up a twenty twenty four to fifth and

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Speaker 4: about twenty twenty five fifth for uh DeAndre Swift Yep,

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Speaker 4: well here it is and now he gets a Daria Smith.

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Speaker 4: Wit Honestly, between the two, I love Deandersmith much rather

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Speaker 4: have Zadarius Smith and the Browns get Smith and a

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty five to six and a twenty twenty five

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Speaker 4: to seven. So you move back one round in twenty

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Speaker 4: five and then two rounds from twenty four to twenty five,

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Speaker 4: but still get the opportunity to draft players, right, you

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Speaker 4: still get same number of guys, and he gets Zadarius Smith,

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Speaker 4: and so he'll be a free agent next March. Incredibly productive,

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Speaker 4: three time Pro Bowl or three straight double digit sax

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Speaker 4: season since, of course that accounts for that he missed

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Speaker 4: all of twenty twenty one with a back injury. The

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Speaker 4: year before that, twelve and a half sacks, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 4: thirteen and a half sacks in twenty nineteen, twelve and

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Speaker 4: a half sacks, and twenty ten sacks last year with Minnesota,

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Speaker 4: so three his last three full seasons, he's got thirty

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Speaker 4: six sacks. He's got double digit sacks, and all of

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Speaker 4: them he had last year fifteen tackles for loss, which

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Speaker 4: was the second highest of his career. He is a force,

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Speaker 4: and he gives us I think the best pass rushing

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Speaker 4: tandem that we've had, certainly, and in my mind it's

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Speaker 4: got to be top three in the league. I would

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Speaker 4: say that on paper, on you got us, You've got TJ.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be the rare, but Bosa Khlil.

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Speaker 4: Mack have not done it. Forgether, Micah Parson's DeMarcus Lawrence.

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Speaker 4: But we're in that elite group now and it gives

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Speaker 3: To Jim Schwore. This was a.

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Speaker 4: Universally whoa, whoa, and everybody okay, And look, we've said

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Speaker 4: it all along, the Browns are all in. This is

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Speaker 4: more evidence to that point.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 4: And he can rush standing up in a two point

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Speaker 4: it can be Dalvin Tomlinson to push the pocket. Sometimes

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Speaker 4: if Alex Wright has developed, if isay a McGuire shows

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Speaker 4: you have four defensive ends and be moving people around

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Speaker 4: go inside. It just gives a lot of options up there,

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Speaker 4: and I think it makes us in our base four

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Speaker 2: Well, it changes everything, right because as we I mean,

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Speaker 2: about and you absolutely crushed it with veteran safety. It

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Speaker 2: feels like we need one more there. And then we've

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Speaker 2: spent the better part of the last month saying I

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Speaker 2: talking about Frank Clark and and Gokway and those guys

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Speaker 2: Like I don't know, we weren't there enough, Like for

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Speaker 2: who are paying its stars while they are in their prime.

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Speaker 2: The way that this is we just weren't there on

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Speaker 2: not as not insure things. Alex Wright may turn into something.

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Speaker 2: Obo may be great over the course of season. You're

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Speaker 2: hoping explode. We hope that they turn into that, but

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Speaker 2: it is Remember, we would say, well, he's got who's

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Speaker 2: these guys. Somebody here has to be a dude. Well,

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Speaker 2: now you got a dude. So now you go to

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Speaker 2: the front of the line.

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Speaker 4: Three bona fide dudes. Now on your defensive line. Yes,

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Speaker 4: you have a lot of proven dudes.

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Speaker 2: And that was required based on where this roster is

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Speaker 2: based on the arms race in the AFC. This was

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Speaker 2: the minimum requirement. And it's great, agree, but it's minimum.

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Speaker 2: This is where you had to be to do it.

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Speaker 2: They did it. I was shocked it came. Now I'm

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Speaker 2: guessing is that cap reasons for Minnesota? Like I would

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Speaker 4: I honestly think my guess is the Browns wanted to

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Speaker 4: about let's get him in here for OTA, so he's

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Speaker 4: He'll be here for the mini camp, so he's in

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Speaker 4: because with the way our schedule is, this.

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Speaker 3: Defense needs to hit the ground run.

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Speaker 4: You're dealing with the Cincinnati and Joe Burrow and Jamar

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Speaker 4: time for oh Man, Well, you know, we'll get it

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Speaker 4: going by week four. We've got to get it going

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Speaker 4: by week one to be a team of consequence, which

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Speaker 4: is what we want and expect to be.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a I never thought this big. I didn't

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Speaker 2: other ways. You know, I was thinking veteran last legs,

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Speaker 2: you know, free agent camp signing. That's where my head

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Speaker 4: It apparently this was something that had been discussed earlier

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Speaker 4: that the Browns had been working on had not been

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Speaker 4: able to get it done, and now they have gotten

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Speaker 4: other things, but to land a Marii Cooper and Zadarius

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Speaker 2: Paul de Podesta ab Our front office, They and ownership

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Speaker 2: quite frankly, are so savvy when it comes to finding

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Speaker 2: these cap issues that other teams have, yes, and poaching yep.

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Speaker 2: I think they're the best in the league at this

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Speaker 2: and finding the compensation that makes it work and being

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Speaker 2: able to paratroop in. You mentioned the Amari Cooper deal.

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Speaker 2: Now you have this with Sidarius Smith. This is nothing

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Speaker 2: from a gift Beck standpoint, it's nothing, and you're getting

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Speaker 2: a absolute dude. And you did the same thing with

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Speaker 2: the Maury and so what You're so lucky from the

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Speaker 2: standpoint as a Browns fan that you have an operation

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Speaker 2: over there that knows everybody else's cap situations too, and

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Speaker 2: they're making calls on stuff ahead of it to where

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Speaker 3: And it also helps that Kuaisia Dolfo Mensa is.

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Speaker 2: The relationship helps if there was no relationship in Dallas.

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Speaker 4: No, No, that one they pulled off. You're exactly right

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Speaker 4: they were able to get that done. He's yeah, you're right,

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Speaker 4: very very good at And I love the fact that

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Speaker 4: we have a pipeline and eventually, you know, ab may

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Speaker 4: four squads that can help each other out, which.

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Speaker 2: Is, yeah, this is this is a nice solid.

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Speaker 4: This is a big, big one. I'll be curious toe

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Speaker 4: what number he wears. He's he started his career obviously

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Speaker 4: is a fourth round pick with the Baltimore Ravens. Really

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Speaker 4: kind of exploded his last year and his rookie deal.

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Speaker 4: At eight and a half, Sacks signs a big deal

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Speaker 4: with Green Bay, where he's worn fifty five with Green

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Speaker 4: Bay and obviously with Minnesota last year. But chrisp Pos's

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Speaker 4: fifty five for us right now. If I'm off top

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Speaker 4: of my head, I I feel confident about that. So

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Speaker 4: I'll be interesting to see what number Zadarius Smith ends

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Speaker 4: up wearing for the Cleveland Browns. But it's a huge get.

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Speaker 4: It's a Pro Bowl passers. So I saw a lot

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Speaker 4: of stuff on Twitter where people like, oh, we finally

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Speaker 4: got a Pro Bowl linebacker, folks, he's an edge rusher.

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Speaker 2: He will play defensive end for us. They got the NFL. Honestly,

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Speaker 2: they got to reclassify that like it's.

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Speaker 3: It should just be edge.

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Speaker 4: There should be edge, and then there should be a

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Speaker 4: linebacker and linebackers should just be off ball lineback.

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Speaker 2: Correct, Yeah, it's just at TJ. Wats TJ? Watch an edge?

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Speaker 3: He's not a lineback, correct, right? All right?

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Speaker 2: Just from a let me just see what would be

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Speaker 2: Let's pick a uniform number for him right now. If

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Speaker 2: he hasn't, if we don't, you're right on posts at POSK.

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Speaker 2: I tell you what I would probably do.

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Speaker 3: This is what I would do.

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Speaker 2: I would say, Luke Whippler, how about how's fifty seven

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Speaker 3: And I'll take fifty six, little lt A little lt okay,

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Speaker 3: yeah close enough? All right? I like that, And I

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Speaker 3: Okay, but yeah he had fifty seven.

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Speaker 3: I think we need one more.

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Speaker 2: Let's because it's you look around this this damn conference.

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Speaker 4: of just enough that it like you can see it

436
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Speaker 4: in there, you know, all the way around. And then

437
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Speaker 4: some arrowroot, which is a white powder that is really

438
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Speaker 4: just a thickening agent. It has no flavor.

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Speaker 2: I've never heard of it.

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Speaker 4: So you could use instead of cornstarch. It's a it's

441
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Speaker 4: a more natural corn starch. So some of that in.

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Speaker 3: There, mixing it around, mix it around.

443
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Speaker 4: It's about another five minutes or so until you cook

444
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Speaker 4: all the milk out of it and it kind of

445
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Speaker 4: just absorbs and it became this unbelievably friend just salt pepper.

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Speaker 3: That's it. That is literally easy.

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Speaker 4: It was amazing and it's I mean, so I think

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Speaker 4: that for you either for me, I think that I

449
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Speaker 4: mean I was thinking about excitedly.

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Speaker 2: Think about it from the position of the children, I

451
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Speaker 2: would just do it without the halopenos.

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Speaker 3: Well, right, you would just do that straight cream corn? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Was this a recipe you found? No in

454
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Speaker 2: your head?

455
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Speaker 3: You thought, I.

456
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Speaker 4: Looked up how could I do a healthy one? And

457
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Speaker 4: they had there were a bunch and I didn't like

458
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Speaker 4: kind of what they were saying, and so I was like,

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Speaker 4: if I just put a little ge in here and

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Speaker 4: then I use milk with their root to make kind

461
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Speaker 4: of the cream I suppose using any kind of cream.

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Speaker 3: It was like, this should work, yeah, lo and behold,

463
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Speaker 3: boy did it?

464
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Speaker 2: It sure did.

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Speaker 3: And my favorite cream corns always have hallopenos in it.

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Speaker 4: So that's why I got you cream, that's right, And

467
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Speaker 4: there was no cream.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So that's how That's how you get in the world,

470
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Speaker 2: is that you're looking for that heat, baby, and so

471
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Speaker 2: that's why you wow, that's right. That's why you're looking

472
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Speaker 2: for it though on a steakhouse is because you know

473
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Speaker 2: that it's there, that cream cone. I love it, Yeah,

474
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Speaker 2: I like it. I like it. So that's good. That's

475
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Speaker 2: very good. And you you were good every good bombs.

476
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Speaker 2: You did all the things you needed well.

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Speaker 3: With the family. We never do anything small, just a

478
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Speaker 3: party for fifty people.

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Speaker 2: He had to run out a haul from a whim

480
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Speaker 2: or was this planned?

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Speaker 5: It was planned, but I didn't really know the details

482
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Speaker 5: till about a week ago. The grand baby's first birthday

483
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Speaker 5: is the street oh Pepo, so it was comboed up

484
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Speaker 5: with the Mother's Day celebration.

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Speaker 2: You stacked it like one stone though. I like that.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if my wife was the most popular,

487
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Speaker 5: but she's like, this is how we're doing it because

488
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Speaker 5: I'm not rolling back up.

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Speaker 3: No, I like it next week.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a savvy moved by missus Gibbet. That's

491
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Speaker 2: exactly what you do. Two birds, one stone. By the way,

492
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Speaker 2: everybody of those fifty who would be doing the double

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Speaker 2: dip is appreciated that you did it.

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Speaker 3: That's what's right. I'm like everybody is, Yeah, nobody's losing.

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Speaker 5: I don't think all the parents, the grandparents maybe didn't

496
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Speaker 5: buy any first because like they're like, hey.

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Speaker 3: It's Mother's Day.

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Speaker 2: Well they don't have anything to do, and you're like,

499
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Speaker 2: either like they don't have what are they doing? They're

500
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Speaker 2: not doing anything, so they want all this stuff. People

501
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Speaker 2: coming over all the time and hanging out for everybody else.

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Speaker 5: It's perfect made. Had a bunch of food. I like it,

503
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Speaker 5: a bunch of pole pork and can.

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Speaker 2: I say something else?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: And this always blew my mind when we had the

507
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Speaker 2: with with the boys when they were at this. The

508
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Speaker 2: amount of pomp and circumstance for the first birthday is absurd,

509
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Speaker 2: especially when considering I mean, what's the guy actually accomplished?

510
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Speaker 2: Is that doing much?

511
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Speaker 3: I mean, so he had a cake he got to

512
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Speaker 3: mash up of.

513
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Speaker 4: Course, yeah, okay, so that's part one. At best, he's

514
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Speaker 4: kind of like waddling around a little bit.

515
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Speaker 3: Oh he's walking.

516
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Speaker 2: Yeah, what's that? Like eleven months they start to cruise,

517
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Speaker 2: so he's cruising. Okay, great, he's he's going to remember

518
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Speaker 2: none of it.

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Speaker 5: We got in the car and I'm like, hey, great day,

520
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Speaker 5: awesome time, great ideas, Like my kid did a great

521
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Speaker 5: job putting it together. The wife helped execute it. I go,

522
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Speaker 5: we don't run this back.

523
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Speaker 2: No, no, what should happen is And this would be

524
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Speaker 2: my rule for all the people out there. Take the

525
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Speaker 2: efforts and attention on the first birthday and do it

526
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Speaker 2: for the tenth. Then now you're going to get what

527
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Speaker 2: you want or if you want like the child fun,

528
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Speaker 2: pure joy, then go like seven or eight, like do

529
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Speaker 2: it then, no one, no kid at one needs all this.

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Speaker 3: Nobody even remembers.

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Speaker 2: They don't know what the hell they're doing.

532
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Speaker 3: They're not doing They didn't.

533
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Speaker 2: Of course not.

534
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Speaker 3: I want to smash some cake. That's exactly what happened.

535
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Speaker 2: You could have nobody there. You could take a cake,

536
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:17,199
Speaker 2: put it down, crash, done, game set match, Yeah, do

537
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Speaker 2: it later when they can, when you get Because what

538
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,160
Speaker 2: you want is a grandparent, aunt, uncle, whatever is you want,

539
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Speaker 2: like them excited for whatever it is that they got

540
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Speaker 2: that happens at like from ages I don't know, three

541
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Speaker 2: to ten, you have the whole window. Correct one in

542
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Speaker 2: their arbitrarily and go.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: My one nephew showed up with a football. I was like,

545
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Speaker 5: circle up, all the kids, you can go play football outside.

546
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Speaker 5: We were in a park. We had a pavilion, indoor pavilion.

547
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Speaker 5: I was like, go outside, go live your best life.

548
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Speaker 5: You don't have to stay here.

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Speaker 4: Plus, at ten, you have a chance that whatever you

550
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:50,919
Speaker 4: get them can be used for a long time or

551
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Speaker 4: even worn for at least a reasonable period.

552
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Speaker 3: At one can be special. That's outdated in three months.

553
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Speaker 5: I wanted to get I wanted to get him something

554
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Speaker 5: like cool from the Browns, from the team, and then

555
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Speaker 5: I thought about it. I'm like, in six months, you

556
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 5: won't be able to wear it.

557
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Speaker 3: That's right. I don't want to do this yet. Now

558
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Speaker 3: I'm not going down this road.

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Speaker 2: No, No, that almost sounded like I thought you're gonna

560
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Speaker 2: say something else. Yah, it's out I'm not.

561
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Speaker 3: Gonna do this yet, but it's out of like yes, yeah,

562
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Speaker 3: it almost had it almost almost.

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Speaker 2: Happy Mother's Day to all the bombs up there related

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Speaker 2: a day late.

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Speaker 3: All the different forms of moms. There's so many different

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Speaker 3: wonderful it is. It is very much all right.

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Speaker 4: Also, just go with an L E c O M

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Speaker 4: dot E d U spell it out for the people,

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Speaker 4: they might not know what that website is.

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Speaker 2: Is that a known? Is that a known? Is lacom

583
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Speaker 2: like how it's called? I believe so, okay, yeah, you're right,

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Speaker 2: that would probably be the way to do it. L

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Speaker 2: E c O M.

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: do it that way because then you could I could

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Speaker 3: be driving and I hear like and if I didn't know, Yeah, but.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, is that we don't know because we're

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Speaker 2: not from here.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, he said. I believe he didn't give

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Speaker 4: us that was That wasn't emphatic. No, that wasn't emphatic

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Speaker 4: at all.

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Speaker 2: the Twisted Tea Hotline for a conversation with or good

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Speaker 2: buddy Jake Trotter of ESPN NFL Nation. Well, that's that's

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Speaker 2: a heck of a Friday news dump, buddy, that that

603
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 2: little acquisition. What did you make of of how that

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Speaker 2: went down? And maybe even the timing of how it

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Speaker 2: went down?

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Speaker 6: Well, I was getting ice cream with the kids, so

607
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Speaker 6: I wasn't particularly thrilled with the timing. I was actually

608
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 6: texting with someone at the with the Browns over the weekend.

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Speaker 6: I said, there should be a rule that in the

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Speaker 6: month of May, you're not allowed to make trades after

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Speaker 6: five pm.

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Speaker 7: In this person, I like it.

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Speaker 6: Yes, you know, I agree everybody had to react to

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Speaker 6: what was happening. But even though it happened on a

615
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Speaker 6: random Friday evening, it was a significant trade to the Browns.

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Speaker 6: I think we all agree that was kind of the

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Speaker 6: one last move they needed to make. When you surveyed

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00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 6: the roster and trying to find you know, potential pitfalls.

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Speaker 6: Defensive ends still looked a little thin just in terms of,

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Speaker 6: you know, proven commodities. And they got a proven commodity there,

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Speaker 6: for sure they did.

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Speaker 4: And you think about now the additions to this defensive line,

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Speaker 4: Jake adjoining Miles, You've got Zadarius Smith, You've got Obo Rokuranquo,

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Speaker 4: and you've got Dalvin Tomlinson. This has to be music

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Speaker 4: to Jim Schwartz's ears. But you know, when's the last

626
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Speaker 4: time we had two double digit sack guys. We got

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Speaker 4: close with Clowney a couple of years ago, but Sadari

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Speaker 4: Smith is a much better pass rusher than Clowney ever

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Speaker 4: was three double digit sax seasons. This is it's pretty

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Speaker 4: incredible what they were able to pull off here, and

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Speaker 4: it feels like, once again, not at much cost whatsoever.

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Speaker 6: No, and you know, listen, the Browns continue to you know,

633
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Speaker 6: parlay these draft picks into star players, which is fine.

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Speaker 7: The Rams won a Super.

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Speaker 6: Bowl with that method, Nathan, and obviously the Browns have

636
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Speaker 6: not gone to that extent, but they're definitely pushing every

637
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Speaker 6: chip they have in for the twenty you know, twenty

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Speaker 6: three season. And you know, not only Smith, you.

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Speaker 7: Know, a double digit sack guy.

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Speaker 6: What was the stat I had. I think he's one

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Speaker 6: of five players who have I want to say ten

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Speaker 6: plus sacks in I guess that statistic is. Yeah, three

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Speaker 6: out last four seasons double digit sack totals. Miles obviously

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Speaker 6: the other along with get this, Aaron Donald, TJ. Watt,

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Speaker 6: and Hassan Redick.

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Speaker 7: So really good company there.

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Speaker 6: And then on top of that, you know, you know,

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Speaker 6: Zadarius faced one of the fourth highest double team rates

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Speaker 6: in Minnesota last year along with Miles, so you know,

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Speaker 6: and then you throw in Obo, who got double teamed a.

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Speaker 7: Lot in Houston.

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Speaker 6: I think he was top fifteen in double team rates.

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Speaker 6: So those three guys, you would think, if they can

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00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 6: play to their potential, are all going to face fewer

655
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 6: double teams, certainly Smith and Obo, and they're gonna get

656
00:29:59,920 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 6: more opportunities to recab.

657
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 7: It on the pass.

658
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 6: When you guys know Jim Schwartz defense, it starts with

659
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 6: disruption up front, and they have tried to pull every

660
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 6: lever they have in order to get the players that

661
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 6: can create that disruption, which is gonna you know, create CFLs,

662
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 6: is going to create sacks and then hopefully you know, turnovers,

663
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 6: whether it's bumbles or interceptions.

664
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 2: You know, this is the second time in a couple

665
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 2: of years too, Jake, that that Andrew Berry has been

666
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 2: able to acquire I mean did this with Cooper for

667
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 2: a fifth. I mean, there's a couple of fives in here,

668
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 2: but like it's it's really something to and it. I

669
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 2: think it speaks to you know, he's just doggedly pursuing

670
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 2: improving this roster, and I feel like he never stops

671
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 2: looking for options. This one, to me feels like a

672
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 2: minimum requirement based on the arms race and the rest

673
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 2: of the AFC though, right, I mean, isn't that that's

674
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 2: the other part of it.

675
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 3: It's like you had to do something like this.

676
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, no question in some of the moves that they've

677
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,080
Speaker 6: made which have been aggressive or more long term, the

678
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 6: Elijah Moores trade, you know that that's more of a

679
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 6: long term view that like that guy's going to be

680
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 6: our slot receiver, you know, for the next album many years.

681
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 6: I saw not just a twenty twenty three move. I

682
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 6: think Obo could be a guy that could be, you know,

683
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 6: part of the core going forward if he you know,

684
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 6: continues to develop and starts turning those pass rush win

685
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 6: rates into stacks, you know, somebody like Cedric Tillman. When

686
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 6: you went into the draft, you weren't thinking they needed

687
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 6: an outside receiver, but I think when you started to

688
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 6: think about it, they actually do because you know, the

689
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 6: the reality is that they're not going to be able

690
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 6: to run it back with a Mari and DPJ, you know,

691
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 6: from a money perspective long term. So you've got a

692
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 6: guy in Tilman that, like you know, can be a

693
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 6: starter down the line. This trade on Friday feels like

694
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 6: it's all about twenty twenty three, like we're trying to

695
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 6: maximize this roster. So it's been a little bit of

696
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 6: a blend of both. But I do think that they

697
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 6: feel like, you know, our our window is now, and

698
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 6: we can't we can't have any thing, you know, holding

699
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 6: us back. We can't leave anything behind here. We've got

700
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 6: to do everything we can to maximize this roster. Because man,

701
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 6: the AC North is so good. I mean, it's just

702
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 6: so good. Everybody in that division, with maybe the exception

703
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 6: of Pittsburgh, should have Super Bowl aspirations and I ain't.

704
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 6: I ain't counting Pittsburgh got either. I mean, they just

705
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 6: find a way to be good. Every year, So you

706
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 6: have got to do everything you can. And that's what

707
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 6: Andrew Who's done with this trade. And again, like you know,

708
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 6: the value is there. They got value in the Elijah

709
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 6: or trade. In my view, they got a lot of

710
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 6: value in this trade. So you know, if you're gonna

711
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 6: get good value and you're gonna make your team better,

712
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 6: that would that would constitute a pretty good move in

713
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 6: my opinion.

714
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:41,239
Speaker 8: Right.

715
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's one thing too, I think people should remember.

716
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 3: It's one thing.

717
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 4: The Rams kind of more traded draft picks for players

718
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 4: straight up. AB has kind of created this new style

719
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 4: of trading where yeah, I'll give you the draft pick

720
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 4: you want, but you have to give me one back.

721
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 4: And so you're still getting the same number of picks,

722
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 4: you're not losing the players, and that gives you, i think,

723
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 4: the ability to get studs now, but also do some

724
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 4: you know, succession planning. I think you hit the nail

725
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 4: on the head there, Jake, that this draft was you know,

726
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 4: in many ways succession planning at very key positions you

727
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 4: could say, on the offensive line, at wide receiver and

728
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 4: then and at the edge position. But also you know,

729
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 4: you are able to make some moves that are for now,

730
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 4: and there's no question this team is in a now mode,

731
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 4: but they also have that eye towards when money's going

732
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 4: to have to go and be distributed other places. Now

733
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 4: we have guys waiting to step into those otherwise expensive spots,

734
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 4: So they.

735
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 3: Are all in. It's going to be wild man, Jake.

736
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 4: Don't you think when you get to September we open

737
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 4: with the Bengals, what was kind of your reaction to

738
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 4: that schedule? You talked about this division. We can talk

739
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 4: about the conference, but three of the first four in

740
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 4: the division, and you get a guy whose career started

741
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 4: here with the Baltimore Ravens and Zadarius Smith for that

742
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 4: early division push.

743
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 6: Well, Nathan, you know, the point you made about getting

744
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 6: that extra pick kind of reminds me of those NBA

745
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 6: trade where a team puss for a pick swap and

746
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 6: the team getting the star players like, yeah, what do

747
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 6: we care, We're always gonna be better in a sucking

748
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 6: mester success and then turn up four years down the line,

749
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 6: you know that pick swap turns into you know, a

750
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 6: pretty good player, and you know if you have extra

751
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 6: you know, six round picks, you can trade up to

752
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 6: get back into the fifth round, you have extra you know,

753
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 6: fourth round picks, you can trade up to get into

754
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 6: the third round, So it gives you more flexibility in

755
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 6: the draft. You know. As far as the schedule, the

756
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 6: schedule is very manageable without looking at the order of

757
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 6: the teams they have to play. I mean, the Browns

758
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 6: play the six worst teams from last season this year. Yeah,

759
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 6: but I did think that the schedule was constructed and

760
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 6: probably the most difficult way it could be, where right

761
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 6: out of the gate, you're you got to come to play,

762
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 6: and I mean it seems strange, but I believe this

763
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 6: one hundred percent that the most important game of the

764
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 6: year is actually that opener against Cincinnati, because it's gonna

765
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 6: set its tone one way or the other. You have

766
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 6: an opportunity to, I think, gain some confidence and you know,

767
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 6: put yourself in position to actually win the AFC North

768
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 6: if you can come away with that win. Conversely, guys,

769
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 6: if you lose that game, I mean, think about the

770
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 6: pressure that's going to be on this team.

771
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 7: Heading into week two. Monday night football.

772
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 6: Yes, a place that a place that like this team

773
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 6: has just not had a lot of success whenever there's

774
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,399
Speaker 6: been fans in the stadium you know that that twenty

775
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 6: twenty playoff victory is really the outlier, and I just,

776
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 6: you know, that's why it feels like such an important

777
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 6: game to me to get off to a good start.

778
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 6: And then because the other you know, if they were

779
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 6: playing like you know, Houston, Indie and I don't know,

780
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 6: like the Cardinals two week two, three and four, I

781
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,280
Speaker 6: don't think the Cincy game would be quite as important.

782
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 6: But because you go to Pittsburgh for Monday night football

783
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 6: and then you get the Ravens two weeks later, I mean,

784
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 6: you've got to get off the good start. You just

785
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 6: in this division can't be sitting there at one in

786
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 6: three and expect to have the kind of season that

787
00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 6: I think that a lot of people think that you

788
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 6: should have this year.

789
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 2: Right well, and I think you know, he didn't know

790
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 2: the schedule at the time when the like the Greenbrier

791
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 2: stuff came out and and that, But I I think

792
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 2: you're looking at a I mean, you're looking at a

793
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 2: very long camp, right because we have the Hoff going

794
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 2: into the Hall of Fame, so you have the extra week,

795
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 2: and I wonder if that's what the Greenbrier thing was about,

796
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 2: And it just might also help that now it kind

797
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 2: of helps with with that because this is going to

798
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 2: be a long haul, man. Yes, it really is through

799
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 2: late juln until you finally play a game that opener

800
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 2: in September. That is a long stretch. And I'm wondering

801
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 2: if that Greenbrier trip kind of factors into that a

802
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 2: little bit.

803
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 6: No, I think that's exactly right, Bo, And You're right

804
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 6: they did. You know, they did have that plan before

805
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 6: they knew what the schedule was going to be, and

806
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 6: it had less, you know, less to do obviously with

807
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 6: the fact you're opening up with Cincinnati, and more to

808
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:52,800
Speaker 6: do with the fact that this is going to be

809
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 6: like the longest training camp. It's going to feel like

810
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 6: of all time.

811
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 2: I mean it.

812
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 6: You know, they're starting i think eight days sooner than

813
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 6: norm You've got the Hall of Fame game and then

814
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 6: three preseason games. Uh, and then you're gonna have a

815
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 6: ton of hype going into Cincinnati. So it's gonna be draining.

816
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 6: And I think that's why Kevin wanted to get away

817
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,760
Speaker 6: to kind of, you know, to mix up the monotony

818
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,240
Speaker 6: of training camp. You know, you go to West Virginia,

819
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 6: you know, you kind of recreate the old you know,

820
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 6: training camps where you used to you know, go to

821
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 6: you know some place and you know, hunker down and uh.

822
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 6: I you know, Kevin's always looking for opportunities to build

823
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 6: chemistry and camaraderie, and I think this is just another

824
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 6: example of that. But yeah, you know, if they were

825
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,280
Speaker 6: not starting in what is it, July like twenty second

826
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 6: or something twenty first, If they weren't starting that early,

827
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 6: I don't know that they'd be going to West Virginia.

828
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 6: But for that reason, you got to do something to

829
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 6: mix it up.

830
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:52,240
Speaker 4: Jake, I'm curious when you talk to your colleagues around

831
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 4: the league, what is the perception of the Browns, even

832
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 4: you can even say post the Zadarius Smith trade in

833
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 4: terms of what the ceilings. And I asked because as

834
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 4: we're talking, scrolling on Twitter and looking, you know, for

835
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 4: anything related to Browns, FanDuel just put out would you

836
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 4: change anything here?

837
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 3: Way too early?

838
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 4: Playoff picture and AFC one Chiefs, two Bills, three Ravens,

839
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 4: four Jags, five Jets, six Bengals, seven Dolphins. In the hunt, Steelers, Chargers, Raiders,

840
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 4: no mention of the Browns. And I think that the

841
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 4: Browns are wow, not getting coverage for a variety of reasons.

842
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 4: I think they're pretty well secument and specific one and

843
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 4: I understand that. But are do you find, at least

844
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 4: and maybe not in your off the cuff discussions with

845
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 4: your colleagues, do people see this as a viable contending roster.

846
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 6: I think I think people see it as dangerous. You know,

847
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 6: nobody's putting the Browns in the Bills, Chiefs, Spangles to

848
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,959
Speaker 6: your I don't even think that at this point people

849
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 6: are putting them, you know, in the Ravens, maybe even

850
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 6: Jets Chargers, kind of that range, even though they probably

851
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 6: from a talent perspective, deserve to be there. I mean

852
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 6: I was looking at our ESC and Power rankings, which

853
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 6: you know there's thirty something people that vote on that,

854
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 6: where the Browns like seventeenth or something, fifteenth, sixteen, eighteenth,

855
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 6: somewhere in that range, I mean, well outside the top fifteen.

856
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 6: So I mean I think that they are definitely under

857
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,399
Speaker 6: the radar. The reason you just mentioned is probably part

858
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 6: of why they're just not a team that anybody wants

859
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 6: to or is talking about nationally right now. But I

860
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 6: do think people recognize that, like if this team puts

861
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 6: it together like they're going to be a factor. I

862
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 6: don't think anybody would be surprised nationally if the Browns,

863
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 6: you know, made the playoffs or even won the AFC North.

864
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 6: If you know, you get that first win over Cincinnati

865
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 6: and then you know at that point, you know, from

866
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 6: the talent perspective, that would be a team I would

867
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 6: not want to face in the playoffs. But I think

868
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 6: right now, like they're probably like you know, I think

869
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 6: the average national person you know, in the media probably

870
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 6: have used the Browns in like the six to nine

871
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 6: range in the AFC, right that seemed fair?

872
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 3: Sure? Sure, I mean it's a loaded and it's a

873
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 3: loaded conference.

874
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:06,760
Speaker 7: It's loaded.

875
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it is. And I think two guys. The

876
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 2: other thing here is is that it's not just the

877
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 2: Deshaun you know stuff why people don't want to don't

878
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 2: want to have the conversation. But it's also that in

879
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 2: the six games you saw, it wasn't great from him,

880
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 2: and so it's been a long time since anyone remembers him.

881
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 2: It's been over two years since anybody remembers him being great.

882
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 2: And I think that that contributes to I think it's

883
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 2: mostly what the Offield stuff, that reason that we don't

884
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 2: get talked about much in him. But I also think

885
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 2: if he were gangbusters last year in those six if

886
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 2: he was shot out of a cannon, or even if

887
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 2: there was two or three games when you were like wow,

888
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 2: twenty two to twenty eight, three, twenty five three scores

889
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 2: ran for another sixty like one of those in there,

890
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 2: I think that it's a totally different tenor. But I

891
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 2: think it's almost sometimes people forget he's omnipresent, that he's

892
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 2: here and that we acquired him, but almost entirely forgot

893
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 2: and what he is as a player because it's been

894
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 2: so long, if that makes sense.

895
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 3: Agreed, No, I agree, you know, I think yeah, yeah, yeah, No, I.

896
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 7: Think that's right.

897
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 6: I mean, Nathan's right. There were definitely flashes, right, we

898
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 6: saw them, but the overall body of work, I mean,

899
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 6: he was the twenty seventh ranked quarterback in QBR in

900
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 6: the six games that he played, you know, over that

901
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 6: stretch he was basically where Russell Wilson rang, and we

902
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 6: all you know know what the narrative is on Russell

903
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 6: Wilson right now. So that's that's definitely a part of it.

904
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 6: I mean, I think the difference is is you can

905
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 6: sort of explain why Deshaun Watson played the way he

906
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,280
Speaker 6: did seven.

907
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 7: Hundred days away.

908
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 6: You know, all this stuff off the field, you know

909
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 6: that he's been accused of and that was going through

910
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 6: and then training camp was a circus because of all

911
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 6: of that. Russell Wilson, like you know, he played the

912
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 6: whole season. He just wasn't any good. I think people

913
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 6: to Shaun Watson's younger by a considerable amount, so like

914
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 6: there is more reason to think that Watson could get

915
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,240
Speaker 6: back to the level he was at than say Russell Wilson.

916
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 6: And I think that's why sure, Like you know, the

917
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 6: round ceiling to me is much higher than somebody like him.

918
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, and weather was a factor.

919
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 4: I mean his game against it An, I just if

920
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 4: he even just had one it was just a half

921
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 4: against Washington, just one game where it was like whoa, yeah,

922
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 4: and they're just what we just didn't have a full game.

923
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 2: And I think that people have kind of forgotten what

924
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 2: he's capable of.

925
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 3: I think there's no doubt.

926
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 4: And I think that the Browns said, you know what,

927
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 4: we saw the glimpses, we know what you can be

928
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:25,320
Speaker 4: with a full offseason.

929
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 3: I think we all underestimated.

930
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 4: I was very guilty of it, because he was also

931
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 4: good a practice that you could just kind of go

932
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 4: down this parallel pass two different offenses. He can come

933
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 4: back in the building, you know, a few weeks prior,

934
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 4: and then he's only gonna be able to practice really

935
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 4: the week before the use game, and he's just gonna

936
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 4: come in and be awesome. I think we were naive

937
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 4: to think that, and obviously that was not the case.

938
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 4: You saw things against Cincinnati, they were great. He made

939
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 4: some big time throws against Baltimore. That second half against

940
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 4: Washington was good. He made some big time throws against Pittsburgh,

941
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 4: made some bad throws as well. But I think they thought,

942
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 4: you can see it, we need to now build this

943
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 4: thing around him, all going in one direction, and let's

944
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 4: get him talent. I think one of the underrated stories

945
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 4: of offseas We've talked so much about this defense, but

946
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 4: the fact that you've added Elijah Moore, Marquise Goodwin who

947
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 4: can still fly and set or Tilman into that receiver

948
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 4: room and you don't even necessarily need Tilman this year.

949
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 4: But if he is so good that you can't keep

950
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 4: him off the field, that's a wonderful situation now. But

951
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 4: don't you think that there was a cognitive and to

952
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 4: bring in Jordan Akens, to get him weapons, Jake and

953
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 4: really say, let's make sure that we don't, as your point,

954
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 4: get another guy. We need another one, Let's get another one.

955
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 4: Let's make sure he has everything at his disposal to

956
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 4: be great again. And I think that's what Elijah Moore

957
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 4: certainly was all about.

958
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, despite all the moves they made on

959
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 6: the defensive line, you could make the case that wide

960
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 6: receivers the most improved position group. I'm not sure, but

961
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 6: I could make that case. And it's because of all

962
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 6: the moves you just laid out. And yeah, like at

963
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 6: the end of the year, I mean, it was Michael Woods,

964
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 6: the second, it was David Bell. It was like a

965
00:43:55,719 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 6: couple of rookies that they were relying on alongside an

966
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 6: injured Tomari Cooper and then DPJ and in joke, I mean,

967
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:07,399
Speaker 6: it was not the best, you know, most formidable pass

968
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 6: catching contingent there at the end of the year. And

969
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 6: then like now, I mean, a lot of the guys

970
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 6: that played last year would not be able to make

971
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 6: the rotation that they're going to fire out there this season.

972
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 7: And so like there's no excuses.

973
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 6: You know he's had Yeah, you know, he's gonna have

974
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 6: a full offseason in the offense, He's got a full

975
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 6: year of the fans ki h you know, a lot

976
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 6: of the legal stuff, although not all of it is

977
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 6: behind him, and he's gonna have a much more I

978
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 6: think poltent receiving and tight end core than he did

979
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,439
Speaker 6: last year. So, like, this offense should be really, really

980
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 6: really good. It should be awesome.

981
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 3: We're excited to see it.

982
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 4: All right, We'll leave you with get you out here

983
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 4: on this one, Jake, What what else is there anything

984
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 4: else to do to this roster right now or this summer?

985
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 4: What do you see Andrew Berry doing if anything else?

986
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 4: Or do you think with the signings of McLeod which

987
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 4: we didn't even talk about, which is a great I

988
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 4: think signing for that safety room and now getting's Darius Smith?

989
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 3: Are we are we pretty good? What else? If anything

990
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 3: do you see?

991
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 6: I mean, you can always you make improvements around the edges,

992
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 6: but I think that like this is the team they're

993
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 6: probably going to roll into the season with. I mean,

994
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 6: they're not gonna have a lot of you know, cap

995
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 6: space at this point to do much and there's no

996
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 6: position that you look at now and you say they've

997
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 6: got to add somebody there, Like if they added another,

998
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,720
Speaker 6: you know, veteran running back or a veteran defensive tackle,

999
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 6: like you could make the case for that you can

1000
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 6: always use another corner in the AFC. But I think

1001
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 6: for the most part, they seem to be set. But

1002
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 6: I say that and Andrew will probably ruin my next

1003
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 6: ice dream social in the.

1004
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:40,439
Speaker 7: Next few days.

1005
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 6: But I think right now, like they you know, the

1006
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 6: thing I heard about was defensive end, that they were

1007
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 6: going to try to add a veteran defensive end after

1008
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 6: the draft. Now I didn't think it was going to

1009
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 6: be one of the caliber smith, but I hadn't really

1010
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 6: heard another position that they are in the mix for,

1011
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 6: so like, certainly we could be surprised, but I think

1012
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 6: if you're asking what I think is going to happen,

1013
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 6: I think this is basically going to be the team

1014
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 6: they roll into the twenty twenty three seasons with.

1015
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 3: Looks good.

1016
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 2: Yeah it does, yeah, good stuff. Buddy. Always appreciate your time.

1017
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 2: Thanks for giving me a.

1018
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 5: Little bit of a shout out to Trotter, by the way,

1019
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 5: like he's got a whole house full of like kids

1020
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:18,399
Speaker 5: then sick.

1021
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 2: What do you got?

1022
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 3: You got sick?

1023
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 7: It's a blessing and a curse. Yeah, we got three

1024
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,919
Speaker 7: strep throat uh diagnoses.

1025
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 2: These kids, these kids, May you can't get sick and

1026
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 2: May man, we just hues skicked.

1027
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 3: Is that just to get off my lawn? Or is

1028
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 3: that real? I don't remember being sick, and May agreed.

1029
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 3: I mean that it's like fifty degrees in raining and

1030
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 3: then the next day it's seven week you had the shifts. Yeah,

1031
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 3: and the allergies. I think the allergies are crushing people.

1032
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,720
Speaker 2: God forbid, Jake, hang in there, buddy.

1033
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 7: Yes, I tell the kids.

1034
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 6: I tell the kids because they used to interrupt me

1035
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 6: on radio all the time when they were a little

1036
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 6: bit younger. And I say, now, if you guys interrupt me,

1037
00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 6: Daddy's gonna get fired and we're gonna have to sell

1038
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 6: your toys to pay for food.

1039
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 4: So the.

1040
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 6: Law I had to come up with a diar scenario.

1041
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 7: They you bide by it. Now they don't. They don't, well.

1042
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:12,760
Speaker 3: Nothing.

1043
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,760
Speaker 4: I mean I think anytime you threaten the taking of toys,

1044
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 4: that that's yeah, that'll that's an attention getter in the

1045
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:19,800
Speaker 4: words of you.

1046
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 3: For de Justice.

1047
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, buddy, thanks for your time.

1048
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 2: All right, Jake Trotter joining us on the Twisted Tea

1049
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,240
Speaker 2: hot Line, brought you by Twisted Herdiced, the official sponsor

1050
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 2: of for your Cleveland Browns, Keep it Twisted Cleveland.

1051
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 4: By the way, how about we said, Jake on and

1052
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 4: this is Darius Smith. Trade is such a big deal,

1053
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 4: and it really is of the magnitude we didn't even

1054
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 4: mention hey with any takeaways from rookie minicamp or any

1055
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 4: like the poor rookies because frankly, let's be honest about it,

1056
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 4: none of them are guys other than Siaki Eco. He's

1057
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 4: only not supposed to contribute. Now, I was, I hope

1058
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 4: Tilman can sure, but that's a but that's bonus. That's

1059
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 4: a bonus. That's a he's gonna take somebody's job type.

1060
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 4: Coming into the draft, I said, who's got to go?

1061
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 4: There's only one who's got to go.

1062
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 2: It was Eca.

1063
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 3: That's it.

1064
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 2: None of the rest of them have to go.

1065
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 3: And he's a big dude man.

1066
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the uh, that's the operation there on that.

1067
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 5: Oh.

1068
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 4: By the way, I'm just laughing though, because there are

1069
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,479
Speaker 4: times when Ricky Minichamp would have been like the biggest deal.

1070
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 3: All of our saviors are out there right now.

1071
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 2: Correct, Oh my gosh, even even since I've been here,

1072
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 2: when all I know is winning, I mean you know

1073
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 2: that would have been coming out of you know, the year,

1074
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 2: coming out of Baker and all of that. So, I mean, yeah,

1075
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 2: these this has been, this has been a lot of

1076
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 2: it is where we pay attention to this stuff. It's very,

1077
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 2: very different, obviously, I can. I also tell you from

1078
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 2: Vinnie and uh and Pete that it is lee Com,

1079
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:45,720
Speaker 2: not laying.

1080
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 3: I don't know. I didn't know you were, did not

1081
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 3: say it. I n telling us it's Lee Com and

1082
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 3: that makes more sense Lee Com. Yeah, So that's that's

1083
00:48:58,040 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 3: collegepathic medicine. That's it.

1084
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 2: That's that's the way that I got the I got

1085
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,320
Speaker 2: the so he was getting ice cream. I got the

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Speaker 2: text from you. We were about halfway through Beamsy's Lacrosse.

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Speaker 4: I was dinner at lock Keepers and you were at

1088
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 4: Lockkeepers anxiously are we sat down?

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00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 2: We got Oh my god, you could a movie at age.

1090
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 2: You think you're getting pulled.

1091
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 3: No, I did not think. I figured there's no way

1092
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 3: that there was anything.

1093
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 2: Well, there's a fish sometimes in a different direction on

1094
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:28,959
Speaker 2: that go ahead.

1095
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

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00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 4: I should have been rund at that moment we were

1097
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 4: there was a little bit of a lull. You can

1098
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 4: interrupt me anytime there's a little bit of a lull

1099
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 4: going on, and so.

1100
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Speaker 3: You never know.

1101
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:39,919
Speaker 4: We were like, are we going to get our food

1102
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:41,320
Speaker 4: and time for this movie? Then I'm like, hey, Zendarius

1103
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 4: Smith and Cleveland Brown, Oh my god, and that's one

1104
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 4: of those Well, hey, I gotta be on my phone

1105
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 4: for a second, give me a minute. Yeah, are your

1106
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 4: kids like dad? But you don't want us on our

1107
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 4: phone enough to understand because we'll both everybody tries to

1108
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 4: be on the same page with that. Yeah, I have

1109
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 4: to explain the difference between work and yeah, goofing around

1110
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,399
Speaker 4: on some Xictok. Yeah, mine aren't there yet, thank god,

1111
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 4: but I'm guessing that'll be there soon enough. I mean,

1112
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 4: my daughter, she loves the on snapcha. Apparently they like

1113
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 4: snap pictures of each other's like half of their faces

1114
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 4: all day long.

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Speaker 3: So it's kind of like.

1116
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 4: See delivered though one of the greatest gifts and cards

1117
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 4: to Miss Kay yesterday.

1118
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 2: It was very emotional powerful.

1119
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 3: So right now she's she's got a lot of cachet.

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Speaker 3: She's got a lot of call as it were a

1121
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 3: lot of calls.

1122
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Speaker 2: I got cache baby.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what was that? That's when he was seven, the

1124
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 3: name seven.

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Speaker 2: He was trying to name the kids seven could stance

1126
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Speaker 2: for us. Oh, it's got cachet baby, all right, second

1127
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 2: hour of the program. Uh, next we'll get into a

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Speaker 2: little bit of rookie mini camp. We'll get into coach

1129
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 2: Tefanski from his presser last week, the off season, Uh,

1130
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 2: the trip to Puerto Rico, or offensive players go around

1131
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 2: the league as well. Uh. Plus a little bit later on,

1132
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 2: Matthew Coller goan to join us. He's a good friend.

1133
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 2: He's on the Purple Insider. He will join us to

1134
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 2: discuss Sadarius Smith and his form, which quite frankly, here's

1135
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Speaker 2: Barking Backers the fan club for Dogs. This was on Friday,

1144
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 2: coach Tefanski addressing the media in light of rookie mini camp.

1145
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 2: A little bit of schedule release in here, as well

1146
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 2: as Deshaun Watson taking the offense to Puerto Rico for

1147
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 2: a little bit of time.

1148
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 3: Here's Kenvin Sefanski at the podium.

1149
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 6: Kevin, what was your reaction when you saw the schedule

1150
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 6: and he had three division opponents in the first month.

1151
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think it's great. I mean, as you guys know,

1152
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,959
Speaker 9: you don't control the schedule. You really just you're ready

1153
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 9: to play wherever they tell you to play. I think

1154
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 9: it's it's a unique thing to have the three division

1155
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 9: opponents in the first four weeks. I believe we're the

1156
00:51:57,960 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 9: only team that has that in the NFL, and I

1157
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 9: look at it as a great opportunity.

1158
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,439
Speaker 2: Does it kase you to adjust anything about your training camp?

1159
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 2: I think we'll get there.

1160
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 3: Not yet. No.

1161
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Speaker 9: I do think the one unique part there, Tony is

1162
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 9: having coordinators that you've gone against. They've gone against us,

1163
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 9: we've gone against them. Quite a bit over the last

1164
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 9: few years. So I'm talking with Cincinnati and with Pittsburgh

1165
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 9: back to back. But it remains me seeing how much

1166
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 9: we adjust going through training camp, in the preseason.

1167
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 2: Workload and gay preseason.

1168
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Speaker 7: Game time and that.

1169
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, I don't know about workload. I mean,

1170
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 9: I don't care who the first two opponents are. That's

1171
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 9: gonna be tough. It's just always is the fact that

1172
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 9: it's a division opponent really means they know us really well.

1173
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:41,919
Speaker 2: We know them really well.

1174
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 9: So it's going to be interesting to see what type

1175
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 9: of adjustments both sides make.

1176
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 7: Kevin your thoughts and Deshaun Watson going to Parrigo? First off,

1177
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 7: did he discussed that with you?

1178
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 8: And so what are you thinking about that?

1179
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 7: He did?

1180
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 9: But as you know, Jeff voluntary program. I'm very appreciative

1181
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 9: of the guys that are here and working here, and

1182
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 9: then when the guys decide that they want to get

1183
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 9: together and be a team, I'm very very much in

1184
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 9: favor of that.

1185
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 3: Did you give them what script of things you'd like

1186
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 3: them to do?

1187
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 9: I don't know if we're allowed to So if we're

1188
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 9: not allowed to know, if we are allowed to, yes,

1189
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 9: what are your.

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Speaker 8: First impressions of some of you know, some of the

1191
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 8: earlier picks from today, how it said work you know,

1192
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:29,879
Speaker 8: eyeball task.

1193
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's I think they did a nice job.

1194
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:33,320
Speaker 3: Mary kay Is. You can imagine.

1195
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 9: It's it's like drinking through a fire hose for these

1196
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 9: guys when the amount of information that we're thrown at them.

1197
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 9: So just breaking the huddle getting lined up can be

1198
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 9: a challenge. And you mentioned said he was really good

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Speaker 9: getting out of huddle. I thought DTR did a very

1200
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 9: nice job in the huddle, explaining where everybody's lining up,

1201
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 9: getting them out of the huddle, call to plays really

1202
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 9: really well. So it's it's it's elementary. I mean, it's

1203
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 9: we're really football one on one right now in terms

1204
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 9: of scheme. But it's it's a new language. And it's

1205
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 9: easy for me to say because I've been all around

1206
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 9: this language. But I think they're all working really hard.

1207
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 8: Because they want to Commodokay, yeah, you needed some time

1208
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 8: away there in the middle of the practice.

1209
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 9: Yeah, he's doing just fine.

1210
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 10: Dlurians mentioned that there were he felt that there were

1211
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 10: some similarities when the offense he ran with Chip and

1212
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Speaker 10: what you guys do, would you agree, And if so,

1213
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 10: I mean, what ways would you say there is?

1214
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think I think there's elements to what they did.

1215
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 9: There's really elements to to a lot of college offense,

1216
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 9: to what we do and what we have in our system.

1217
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 9: You know, teams are a lot more similar than they

1218
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:39,800
Speaker 9: are dissimilar, I would think. So there's definitely plays that

1219
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,320
Speaker 9: have stood the test of time that show up in

1220
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 9: high school and college and the pros and are part

1221
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 9: of what we do. And then it's just a matter

1222
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 9: of the nuances that that differentiate you.

1223
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:52,240
Speaker 10: He said, well he was he was better received than Cedric,

1224
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 10: at least from at the start.

1225
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,439
Speaker 9: Maybe I'll say this, it is that's such a cool

1226
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,320
Speaker 9: uh story, and a cool thing to be able to

1227
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 9: bring your high school buddy with you to work every day.

1228
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 9: Those two are inseparable in the buildings so far, they're

1229
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 9: kind of walking around together, so and I think it helps.

1230
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,479
Speaker 9: It helps that they play a position where they're talking

1231
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:15,360
Speaker 9: to each other quite a bit, so they can study

1232
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 9: together those type of things.

1233
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 8: Oh, I should enjoy having fewer players on the field,

1234
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 8: where like even seeing you out there doing some one

1235
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 8: on one coaching.

1236
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, there's different ways to do it.

1237
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 9: I've been around the rookie mini camps where you bring

1238
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:29,879
Speaker 9: in seventy guys and and it's you're you're doing full

1239
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 9: team drills and seven on seven of those type of things.

1240
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 9: For us, we just feel like the best thing to

1241
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 9: do is to slow it down. I mean, we're doing

1242
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,760
Speaker 9: it's the basics. It's it's how to get into a stance,

1243
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 9: how to come out of your stance. Uh So, it's

1244
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 9: it's really very very entry level stuff, if you will,

1245
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 9: But that's what we're here to do. It's it's skill development,

1246
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:50,280
Speaker 9: it's it's fundamentals and techniques.

1247
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:51,280
Speaker 3: Right now is the focus.

1248
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 11: Story?

1249
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 2: And didn't do that?

1250
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 7: So is that the immediate project?

1251
00:55:59,160 --> 00:55:59,359
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1252
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 9: Honestly, Tony, I don't think it's a challenge. I don't

1253
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 9: see that as a problem or a an issue for him.

1254
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:08,439
Speaker 9: He's very very intelligent. He did it at the East

1255
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 9: West Shrine game and had no problems. He's a smart kid.

1256
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 9: Kevin with Dwine, I know you watched a bunch of

1257
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 9: fellow but having a guy that big, if that kind

1258
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:19,800
Speaker 9: of movements go, you know right in front of you,

1259
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:22,399
Speaker 9: how did you look and how did you think you moved?

1260
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 3: The amenity?

1261
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1262
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 9: Again day one for these guys. I mean literally, Bill

1263
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 9: has him in his stance, trans putting his weight on

1264
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 9: his right foot or his outside foot, or where he

1265
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 9: wants his hand placement. So it's very, very entry level

1266
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 9: football right now for him, and I thought he did

1267
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:41,839
Speaker 9: a nice job. It's it's it's gonna be a challenge

1268
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 9: for all these guys. We're gonna ask him to use

1269
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 9: technique that's a little bit different really at every position,

1270
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 9: and he's very receptive to that.

1271
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 2: Up to the schedule. Are you ready to say what

1272
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 2: you're gonna do between Denver and LA.

1273
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,800
Speaker 9: It's not finalized yet, Tony, but that's definitely something that

1274
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 9: we're considering.

1275
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 3: His staying out there in LA after Denver.

1276
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,800
Speaker 11: Why Why do you it's gonna be a balancing, eliminated

1277
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 11: driven Yeah, I think eliminating a trip number one from

1278
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:08,839
Speaker 11: a rest and recovery standpoint, and then I think it's

1279
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 11: it's never a bad thing when you can get your

1280
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 11: team together in a setting.

1281
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 10: Kevin, we talked about the the true rookies, the guys

1282
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:16,479
Speaker 10: coming run outd on college.

1283
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 3: But you've got a bunch.

1284
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 10: You have a number of guys out there that you know,

1285
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 10: we're with you through training camp in all of last season.

1286
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 3: What about some of those guys and just what you've

1287
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 3: seen some of the development, right.

1288
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think it's such a great benefit to be

1289
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 9: able to have those guys out here. A lot of

1290
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 9: this they've heard often, so them breaking the huddle maybe

1291
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 9: is not the big challenge, but they get one on

1292
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 9: one work with their coaches. Think about the wide receivers,

1293
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 9: think about coach Callahan here, they get smaller groups that

1294
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 9: they can really hone in and teach these young men,

1295
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 9: and they're doing a nice job. It's a great opportunity

1296
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 9: for them to be able to attend this.

1297
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 8: Kevin, we haven't talked to you since you guys drafted Whippler,

1298
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 8: So what did you guys like about him throughout the

1299
00:57:57,880 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 8: process it.

1300
00:57:58,640 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 3: Led you to him?

1301
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 9: Yeah, a good football player, played a lot of good

1302
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 9: football for them down there in Columbus. Tough, very very intelligent, scrappy,

1303
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 9: just fits in with what we do. So I think

1304
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 9: it's a nice player to have for coach Callahan, coach Peter's,

1305
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 9: coach Costa get their hands on Kevin.

1306
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 7: He told us that he liked kind of the test

1307
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 7: game of football, playing center.

1308
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 3: That's what he likes about it. Do you have you

1309
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 3: gotten a chance to kind of.

1310
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 7: See that in him a little bit?

1311
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 2: Not yet.

1312
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 9: I think centers, by nature oftentimes are really really intelligent

1313
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 9: guys because you're making a lot of adjustments at the

1314
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 9: line of scrimmage when it comes to protection and the

1315
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 9: run game and those type of things. So we ask

1316
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 9: a lot of our centers. I think Ethan and Nick

1317
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 9: do a great job in that area. So in that regard,

1318
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 9: he'll fit right in.

1319
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 7: Kevin.

1320
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 6: I know with the schedule, you talk all the time,

1321
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 6: but you can't control any element of that.

1322
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 7: But the early bye week and having that week five,

1323
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 7: what the challenges are is going to be to try

1324
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 7: that early for you?

1325
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't know that there's challenges. I think they

1326
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 9: just they put the buy or they put the games

1327
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 9: wherever they are. I don't know that reordering the games,

1328
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 9: re ordering the buy makes the schedule much different from

1329
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 9: my perspective, it's just we're kind of next game mentality,

1330
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 9: So if the buy is when it is, we'll take

1331
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 9: a breather when it shows up.

1332
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 4: Part of this is to show them.

1333
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 11: What kind of shape the power of going they need

1334
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 11: to be in when they come back for veteran.

1335
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 9: That's not the intention, Mary Kay, it's not. You know,

1336
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 9: we're just trying to be safe and what we're doing.

1337
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 9: And a lot of the drills that they're doing, they're

1338
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 9: doing for the first time with us, and they're gonna

1339
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 9: do them tomorrow, and they're gonna do them next week,

1340
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 9: and they're gonna do them first day of training camp.

1341
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 9: So it's really an introduction to how we operate. It's

1342
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 9: true that a lot of young men that go through

1343
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 9: this draft process, you're not in the best shape.

1344
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 7: So we know that.

1345
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 9: So it's not like we need to scare them into it.

1346
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 9: That they realize that they have work to do, and

1347
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 9: not all of them do, but sometimes you're in the

1348
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 9: draft process and you're on the airplane every other day

1349
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 9: making these visits. So we got a lot of resources

1350
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 9: in this building and these guys are gonna use them.

1351
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 2: All right, good stuff from coach from last Friday. We'll

1352
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 2: go over some of the observations from rookie mini camp,

1353
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 2: much more of course, on the acquisition of Zadarius Smith.

1354
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 2: We will also go around the league. That's all coming

1355
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 2: up next to list to Cleveland Browns Daily on eight

1356
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 2: fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: soon to Ohio. On eight fifty ESPN, Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: Browns fans were down to our top five designs for

1360
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1361
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 2: be heard. Be sure to rank your favorite logo. It's

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01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 2: the top two. We'll advance to the final round. We

1363
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:44,919
Speaker 2: will do one vote. You can do rather one vote

1364
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 2: per day? Was it Cleveland Browns dot com slash dog logo?

1365
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 2: To cast your vote? Mister z oh baby, let's go.

1366
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 2: Have we seen any updated numbers or is that albeit

1367
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 2: lock and key?

1368
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 3: Lock and key?

1369
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 2: Okay, d We don't know where we stall, only a

1370
01:00:58,480 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 2: privileged few.

1371
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna end up being top left or

1372
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 3: bottom right. That's what That's how I feel about it.

1373
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 2: That feels like the right spot to those two. This

1374
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 2: guy was in This guy was in our in the

1375
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 2: basement bar. This little guy. Oh yeah, I like that guy.

1376
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 2: How about that guy. It's a good looking guy. He's

1377
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 2: a legend.

1378
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 3: I like that guy. Yeah, me too. A little those little.

1379
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 2: Uh probably like cement little bulldogs you put on that

1380
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:33,919
Speaker 2: put around. Yeah, he's heavy, he's got got a little

1381
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 2: bit of weight to it, halt, A little bit of

1382
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 2: half coach, A little bit of a half. Did you

1383
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 2: before we go around the league? Did you did you

1384
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 2: watch Succession last night?

1385
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 3: You know what I did?

1386
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 4: Let me take two things. Number One, I passed out

1387
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 4: during it. I fell asleep, and I watched it. That

1388
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 4: feels impossible to be smoked. I think it was just

1389
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 4: a long day, okay, but I watched it. I rewatched.

1390
01:01:55,760 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 4: Uh what I missed this morning? The honestly got It's

1391
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 4: like watching a show about people that I despise and

1392
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 4: I all want to see fail. So when they're fighting

1393
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 4: with each other, I don't care. I missed the dad,

1394
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 4: and I think it's ready to be done, Like bless you,

1395
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 4: it is ready to be over. I thought was Honestly,

1396
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 4: I thought was, oh the intrigue.

1397
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 3: I was bored by it.

1398
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 4: Roman is Romulus is doing things that there's no way

1399
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 4: he would be doing. There need to be a world,

1400
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 4: and that there was no indication his character was ever

1401
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 4: capable of acting in ways such as this.

1402
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 2: There was actually if you this is how he behaved

1403
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 2: in the first couple of episodes of the whole show.

1404
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 2: They made him more endearing over the course of the

1405
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 2: last couple of seasons. But in terms of what he

1406
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 2: was at the very beginning, I think back to the

1407
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 2: very remember like the softball game where he like just

1408
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 2: screwed with the kid just for fun of it. Like

1409
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 2: he's been a despicable human, yes, at the beginning, and

1410
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:57,920
Speaker 2: then they wove him back into like you know, wounded

1411
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:00,080
Speaker 2: all this stuff. But then now it's back to what

1412
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 2: he was, but.

1413
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 3: Out of nowhere.

1414
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 4: It's kind of like this feels rushed in the way

1415
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 4: that it was rushed that all of a sudden, Dan

1416
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 4: Eara started torching in it as in humans. Yeah, like

1417
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 4: there was no lead up or indication to this other

1418
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 4: than we're guessing his dad died. He froze on the

1419
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 4: phone with his dad. By the way, Succession spoilers, So

1420
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 4: if you don't, we haven't given anything. Way, no, if

1421
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 4: you have watched, I don't even know that there's anything

1422
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 4: to give away. It was basically like a It was

1423
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 4: a sprint of an hour and ten minutes of a

1424
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:32,479
Speaker 4: show that covered like four hours of real time. Here's

1425
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 4: the thing that I yes, and what I don't understand

1426
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 4: is now we're going to go into deciding who the

1427
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 4: president of the United States is based on getting out

1428
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 4: of a deal that at one point they didn't want

1429
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 4: to get out of, they wanted to do, and then

1430
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, seemingly out of nowhere, they don't

1431
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:53,920
Speaker 4: want to do this deal anymore.

1432
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 2: I don't even think it's even about that. I think

1433
01:03:55,800 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 2: it's just I think it's the creator saying it's satire,

1434
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 2: and he's saying, this is how american.

1435
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 3: That is all totally.

1436
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 2: That's what he's showing. That's what he's doing, Like, I

1437
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 2: don't even know that the deal's what he's saying is

1438
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 2: is they're motivated by something that has nothing to do

1439
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 2: with what this job is, right, and that they are

1440
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 2: will do anything to get that in every one of them.

1441
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 3: But then why didn't they just back out of the

1442
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 3: deal at some point?

1443
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 2: It's too good and the board would never have allowed

1444
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 2: them to.

1445
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:32,440
Speaker 4: Right, So instead they could get a deal it's going

1446
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 4: to make them unbelievably wealthy beyond their wildest dreams, and

1447
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 4: then they could go do whatever the heck passion projects

1448
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 4: they want to do.

1449
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the one kid knows this is the fastest

1450
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 2: track to be in in the White House and being

1451
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:45,920
Speaker 2: important and probably other things and all that Kennels ever

1452
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 2: want to do is run that company.

1453
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:47,480
Speaker 3: That's it.

1454
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 2: Only they were running.

1455
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 3: I thought he put all this thing about all the time.

1456
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 4: Think about all the time and energy that had to

1457
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 4: be put into the other deal, the price deal or

1458
01:04:57,240 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 4: whatever it is, and not only that member that company were.

1459
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 3: Creating all the work that was done on that.

1460
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 2: Mons.

1461
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 4: It's hard to watch. I didn't think impelling it all.

1462
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 4: Oh wow, so Shiv was backstabbing you. Oh wow, you

1463
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 4: just figured it out. Oh but you're also backstabbing it,

1464
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:15,000
Speaker 4: like so wet right. The only thing I cared about

1465
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 4: was when Womb's games was like when Shiv, you know,

1466
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 4: told him of her situation and he was like, is

1467
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 4: this another attack to another play.

1468
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 3: That was only partly episode? Is good? I don't care

1469
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:27,080
Speaker 3: that they're gonna.

1470
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 2: Lu as they were deciding who the next president of

1471
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 2: the United States was going to be.

1472
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 3: Was quite good. He's ridiculous.

1473
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 2: I thought.

1474
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 3: I thought it was like this.

1475
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 2: I thought it was one of the best written hours

1476
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 2: of TV I've ever seen from the standpoint of how

1477
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 2: fast it was and how much was accomplished in the

1478
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 2: time and what was coming out of the character's mouth.

1479
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 2: But and I one of My favorite TV critics is

1480
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 2: the guy named Alan Steppenwell, who now writes for the

1481
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 2: course Rolling Stone East. I don't know if he was.

1482
01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 2: It was a Grantland and he did stuff there. He

1483
01:05:59,920 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 2: was he's famous for he wrote for The Star Ledger.

1484
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:05,080
Speaker 2: He used to do Sopranos reviews in the Star Ledger,

1485
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 2: so that's where I first years ago.

1486
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 3: I've read it.

1487
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 2: Anyway. He had a quote that that.

1488
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 3: He compared it to last Night, and it hit home

1489
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:13,520
Speaker 3: for me.

1490
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 4: He's like, it's probably the best hour of television that

1491
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 4: I never want to watch again.

1492
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 2: And it reminded him of the Office episode with the

1493
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 2: dinner party, which's so awkward, like Michael and what's her name?

1494
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 2: That's kind of how I felt like, I don't ever

1495
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 2: need to see it again. But it was just like

1496
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 2: at the end of it, I just.

1497
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:33,000
Speaker 3: Went, what the hell?

1498
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 2: There's so much, so much dialogue, nothing breed and the

1499
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 2: dialogue was hot, cam was good, but there's no fun

1500
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:44,800
Speaker 2: in it. I think what a lot of people fell

1501
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 2: in love with the show was for the most part

1502
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 2: of like halfway through season one until logan untimely. Most

1503
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:55,040
Speaker 2: of that there was at least a stretch of comedy

1504
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 2: in every episode of fun. And there's no fun in

1505
01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 2: this right now, Like without him in the mix, there's

1506
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 2: just not enough fun. That's the thing that makes it out.

1507
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:06,040
Speaker 2: And I just don't care no, right because they're not

1508
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:09,360
Speaker 2: When he was there and they were all orbiting it,

1509
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 2: now there's nothing for them to orbit. They just bouncing

1510
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 2: off each other. I don't know, I didn't I found it.

1511
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:18,160
Speaker 2: Matt Ryan joined CBS as an NFL analyst, but also

1512
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 2: tweets out not a retirement post.

1513
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 4: Well yeah, because he's getting twelve million dollars from the Colts.

1514
01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 4: It's about unless he retires, and now he can double

1515
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 4: dip as an analyst, still not be retired and make

1516
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:27,920
Speaker 4: both salaries.

1517
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:29,439
Speaker 3: Is that real?

1518
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 2: I didn't realize that's what that was about. Oh yeah,

1519
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 2: Oh I missed that.

1520
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 3: I thought he retires, he gives up that twelve million.

1521
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 3: The Colts own twelve million dollars. Oh my god, that's funny.

1522
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:40,000
Speaker 2: I didn't realize that. I thought it was just he

1523
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:41,160
Speaker 2: thought it was weird.

1524
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 3: That's why I put it in there.

1525
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 2: I get it. I thought it was just he wanted

1526
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:47,120
Speaker 2: to hey, keeping my options open. But it's actually as

1527
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:49,680
Speaker 2: long as he's active he's owed that money.

1528
01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:50,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1529
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 2: Oh, that's that's a different angle on it entirely.

1530
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:56,400
Speaker 3: He's not giving up landing with another team. Yeah.

1531
01:07:56,440 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 4: And the reason so this is from Pro Football Talk

1532
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:04,120
Speaker 4: when former NFL MVP Matt Ryan announces upon joining CBS's

1533
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 4: and analyid he's not retired. It's not a case of

1534
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:07,440
Speaker 4: Ryan being the last one to know that it's over.

1535
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 4: He can't act like it's over unless he potentially jeopardizes

1536
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:12,440
Speaker 4: the twelve million he'll make to not play for the

1537
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 4: Colts in twenty twenty three. When the Colts trade for

1538
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 4: Ryan las year, they knew they would how Hi twelve

1539
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 4: million this year. They cut him in March to avoid

1540
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 4: having another seventeen million ship from injury guarantee to full guarantee.

1541
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 3: But it's not free money.

1542
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 4: Ryan technically has an obligation to see kin offel employment

1543
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:27,759
Speaker 4: and to not refuse reasonable opportunities to play at fenounces.

1544
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:29,760
Speaker 4: I'm out the Colts, in theory, could try not to

1545
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 4: pay him. There's no reason to think the Colts would

1546
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 4: do that. But the smart move for Ryan is to

1547
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:34,840
Speaker 4: keep the door open, especially when it's obvious that no

1548
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:36,519
Speaker 4: one is going to be walking through it.

1549
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 3: He's done. He knows that we know it.

1550
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:40,680
Speaker 4: Last year became clear he's cooked. That's fine, But he's

1551
01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 4: saying he's not retired because he hopes to get the

1552
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:44,000
Speaker 4: money the Colts comitted to pay him when trading for

1553
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:45,760
Speaker 4: him last year. No one forced them to do it.

1554
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:46,240
Speaker 3: They did it.

1555
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:48,760
Speaker 4: They own the money. Even if there's a point zero

1556
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 4: one percent chance that owner Jim Ursey would ever try

1557
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:53,720
Speaker 4: to parlay a Ryan retirement into stiffing him, why risk it.

1558
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:56,240
Speaker 4: Keep the biscuit and twelve million will buy a lot

1559
01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 4: of them. So there you go, pretty good. And there's

1560
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:02,000
Speaker 4: no offset because it's not NFL employment, So it's he

1561
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 4: literally gets the double dip double dips. There's no reason

1562
01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 4: for him to play for somebody else because that would

1563
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:10,880
Speaker 4: be it would offset it. Now he's gonna make more

1564
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:12,000
Speaker 4: to not play, and.

1565
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 2: Then whatever he makes from the CBS, what do you

1566
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:18,680
Speaker 2: I don't have any view on him as a personality.

1567
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:23,680
Speaker 4: I guess pretty dry, but people really liked him. I

1568
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:25,559
Speaker 4: guess he's gonna be a little dry. But we'll see,

1569
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:26,080
Speaker 4: we'll see what.

1570
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 2: He's CBS like, where does he what team does he

1571
01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:29,720
Speaker 2: land with?

1572
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 4: And then what is the did they say he's gonna

1573
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 4: be calling games or is he just as an analyst.

1574
01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:36,720
Speaker 4: I could see he's going to be a studio. Oh

1575
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 4: maybe run off one of those old dogs. The better

1576
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 4: gig is games, isn't it.

1577
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:44,160
Speaker 3: I think the better gig is a studio.

1578
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 2: The better money studio. But I guess how do you

1579
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:48,280
Speaker 2: want to The gig is not bad? You come in, Yeah,

1580
01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:50,800
Speaker 2: but like Tony Romo would not stop being Tony Romo

1581
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 2: with Jim Nance in order to go sit in with

1582
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:53,679
Speaker 2: Bill Kauer.

1583
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 3: No, I think if you're at Tony Romo's level, yes.

1584
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:57,600
Speaker 2: So only then on that now you have it. I

1585
01:09:57,680 --> 01:10:00,840
Speaker 2: bet that's right. If your top analyst, that's the gig.

1586
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 2: Everything else you'd rather be studio?

1587
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 3: Yeah? Okay.

1588
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 5: If you're not team one or two, yeah, I want

1589
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 5: you want one of the top two. Yeah, because then

1590
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:13,800
Speaker 5: like the second team. I mean in a year where

1591
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:18,479
Speaker 5: CBS has two divisional playoff games or two wild cards

1592
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:20,479
Speaker 5: because they don't have the Super Bowl, that you're still

1593
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:21,599
Speaker 5: doing playoff games.

1594
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:21,800
Speaker 3: Again, you do?

1595
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:24,720
Speaker 2: You're seeing like lifestyle, the lifestyles if you have if

1596
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:27,200
Speaker 2: you're Matt Ryan, you have all the money, which lifestyle

1597
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 2: would you rather have? The do the Sunday or do

1598
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 2: the one game.

1599
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:32,719
Speaker 3: I think the lifestyle is better to do the studio.

1600
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:34,080
Speaker 3: So they'd come in, you'd come in on a.

1601
01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:36,599
Speaker 4: Saturday Saturday night. They put you up at a great hotel. Yep,

1602
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:39,560
Speaker 4: that's on them, great meal. You're going to get in

1603
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 4: there relatively ear least Sunday morning. You're going to go

1604
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:45,560
Speaker 4: rehearse the show. The show's twelve to one, so you

1605
01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:47,800
Speaker 4: do a little show prep there. They've got Pat Kerwin

1606
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 4: and a bunch of other people who do all the

1607
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 4: research for you, and they know everything, and so you

1608
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:53,800
Speaker 4: have and think about how much they talk, each one

1609
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 4: of them in an hour.

1610
01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:56,760
Speaker 3: You go to each game, each stadium, and each day

1611
01:10:56,920 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 3: they're doing. They're not doing much in that hour.

1612
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 4: Then you do a little bit of halftime highlights at

1613
01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 4: the one o'clock, a little bit of halftime highlights at

1614
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:06,200
Speaker 4: the four o'clock. You're sitting a sitting around eating and

1615
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:09,720
Speaker 4: hanging out all day watching football with some pretty cool

1616
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:11,800
Speaker 4: people to watch football with. And then you fly out

1617
01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:16,680
Speaker 4: Sunday evening and your home if you're if you're doing

1618
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:18,639
Speaker 4: a game, you're you've got to You're in the town

1619
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:21,599
Speaker 4: Friday Friday, so it's two nights versus one. You're might

1620
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:25,400
Speaker 4: you're in random town. You're not in place here. It

1621
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 4: might be three yeah, Manhattan, somewhere else. You're in some

1622
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:33,559
Speaker 4: Sometimes that's better, sometimes it's not. Then you're a mound

1623
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 4: of work that you have to do to call in

1624
01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 4: one that like they know it's all done for. They

1625
01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 4: have an unbelievable team to be So when I was

1626
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:46,439
Speaker 4: doing TOPS that when TOPS launched, we were in this

1627
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:48,680
Speaker 4: studio and NFL Day was in this studio, but we

1628
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:51,040
Speaker 4: got we shared like the same kind of green room

1629
01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:52,479
Speaker 4: area and we're able to go back around.

1630
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:54,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know it is.

1631
01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:59,080
Speaker 4: They are well prepared and taken care of and then

1632
01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 4: they just have to go deliver for not that much time.

1633
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:05,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you sold me. Good job at you. Thank you.

1634
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:08,640
Speaker 2: Matthew Caller going to join us. Coming up next e

1635
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:12,160
Speaker 2: of course with Purple Insider gets his thoughts on Zadarius

1636
01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:14,960
Speaker 2: Smith and what he can bring to us. That's coming

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Speaker 2: Matthew Caller our good buddy, joining us from Purple Insider, Matthew,

1648
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Speaker 2: Let's just this come out of the clear blue sky

1649
01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 2: for you the way that it kind of did for

1650
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:03,880
Speaker 2: us on Friday.

1651
01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:08,519
Speaker 7: Uh, No, not so much. You know, it was a

1652
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:12,200
Speaker 7: very odd thing because I think that when Zadarias Smith

1653
01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:14,920
Speaker 7: signed with the Vikings, we all expected him to be

1654
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:18,960
Speaker 7: a Viking for two years because that was the way

1655
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 7: his contract was structured. The third year was kind of

1656
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:24,160
Speaker 7: one of those dummy years where they could move on

1657
01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:26,920
Speaker 7: after that. But it looked like it was pretty legit

1658
01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:29,400
Speaker 7: for two years, and I thought that that was one

1659
01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:31,800
Speaker 7: of the reasons he signed with the Vikings, is being

1660
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:34,400
Speaker 7: able to get a multi year contract even though he

1661
01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:37,120
Speaker 7: had been coming off of that back surgery with the

1662
01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:39,719
Speaker 7: Green Bay Packers, but at the end of the season,

1663
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:43,400
Speaker 7: he tweeted something that seemed very much like a goodbye

1664
01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:47,920
Speaker 7: to Minnesota and raised all of our eyebrows, like, oh, okay,

1665
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 7: I guess they're going to have to cut them for

1666
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 7: cap reasons or trade them or something. And then we

1667
01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:55,439
Speaker 7: just kind of waited. And my understanding was that the

1668
01:13:55,600 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 7: Vikings didn't really see that coming either initially, and I

1669
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:04,000
Speaker 7: think Zadarias Smith just wanted more money and felt he

1670
01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:07,240
Speaker 7: deserved more money. And you know what, he's probably right

1671
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:10,600
Speaker 7: for what he produced versus the amount of cash that

1672
01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 7: he was scheduled to bring in, I think he probably

1673
01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:16,200
Speaker 7: did deserve quite a bit more, and so I noticed

1674
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:19,120
Speaker 7: that the restructure for his contract was part of it,

1675
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:22,160
Speaker 7: probably to put some more cash into his pocket. So

1676
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 7: that you know, when you look at the Vikings cap situation,

1677
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 7: it was so dire that there really wasn't a lot

1678
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:31,680
Speaker 7: of choice here. It was either going to be cut

1679
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:35,320
Speaker 7: him or trade him because there was no flexibilities for them.

1680
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:37,800
Speaker 7: I believe that before they made this trade, according to

1681
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:41,280
Speaker 7: overthecap dot com, they had about one million dollars left.

1682
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:44,160
Speaker 7: That's not even enough to sign your draft class. Even

1683
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:46,840
Speaker 7: when the draft cliss only has six players. I mean,

1684
01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:49,679
Speaker 7: they've just got absolutely nothing as far as cap space,

1685
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:51,800
Speaker 7: and you need to go into the season with at

1686
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:54,640
Speaker 7: least something. So uh yeah, I mean, I think it

1687
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:56,880
Speaker 7: was a situation that we were kind of waiting for

1688
01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 7: when that was going to play out. But we didn't

1689
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:02,200
Speaker 7: know why, We didn't know where, we didn't know if

1690
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:04,120
Speaker 7: there was another team that was going to step up

1691
01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 7: and take that contract. So you know, I think Cleveland

1692
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:10,839
Speaker 7: ends up getting getting a steal here for a situation

1693
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:13,600
Speaker 7: that the Vikings couldn't really control and they had to

1694
01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:14,400
Speaker 7: move on from him.

1695
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:17,439
Speaker 3: What kind of player are the Browns getting in Zadarius Smith.

1696
01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:21,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, when Zadarius Smith is healthy, which was the first

1697
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:24,120
Speaker 7: half of the season and not so much the second

1698
01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:26,519
Speaker 7: half last year, and you can see that reflected in

1699
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:29,840
Speaker 7: the numbers. But when he is at one, he is

1700
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 7: one of the most dominating defensive players in the entire league.

1701
01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:36,840
Speaker 7: He can do anything. He can play outside a tackle

1702
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:39,559
Speaker 7: and beat them on the edge. He can line up

1703
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 7: over the center and shove them back into the quarterback.

1704
01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:46,680
Speaker 7: He can do stunts, twists, whatever. You could put him

1705
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:49,920
Speaker 7: at inside linebacker and rush him from there. There's nothing

1706
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:52,000
Speaker 7: that he can't do. He can stuff the run, he

1707
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:54,240
Speaker 7: can I mean just anything. He's one of the most

1708
01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:57,679
Speaker 7: versatile players in the NFL. He's one of the strongest players,

1709
01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:00,320
Speaker 7: and I think one of the most technically gives did

1710
01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:03,599
Speaker 7: pass rushers you're gonna see. So it's not like, oh,

1711
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:05,680
Speaker 7: he just has this one move that he does all

1712
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:09,240
Speaker 7: the time. He's got a whole toolbox of moves and

1713
01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:10,960
Speaker 7: he can do a lot of different things from a

1714
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:13,640
Speaker 7: lot of different places. And the guy is he's a

1715
01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 7: freight train. I mean, he just keep going down in

1716
01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:19,800
Speaker 7: and down out. He's just a very driven and motivated player.

1717
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:22,040
Speaker 7: I mean, you look at his numbers last year through

1718
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:25,160
Speaker 7: about ten weeks, I think he was in the defensive

1719
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:28,400
Speaker 7: Player of the Year conversation with the pressure numbers he

1720
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:31,600
Speaker 7: was putting up in the sack numbers. The one downside

1721
01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:33,720
Speaker 7: is just that health is an issue. I mean, he's

1722
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:36,800
Speaker 7: two years separated from back surgery, and last year, even

1723
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:39,160
Speaker 7: though he played a ton of snaps, he played a

1724
01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:42,040
Speaker 7: lot of them through a knee injury that clearly flowed

1725
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:45,200
Speaker 7: him down. He was still effective at times, but not

1726
01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:48,360
Speaker 7: in the same down in and down out that he

1727
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:50,479
Speaker 7: was towards the beginning of the season. But the other

1728
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 7: thing is that's different from Cleveland as it was in Minnesota,

1729
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:58,720
Speaker 7: is that he had to play every down in Minnesota.

1730
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:02,120
Speaker 7: I mean, they really had no option for outside rushers.

1731
01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:04,040
Speaker 7: So if he can be a little bit more of

1732
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:07,639
Speaker 7: a part of a rotation and maybe limit playing sixty

1733
01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:11,320
Speaker 7: or seventy stats per game at times, that might help

1734
01:17:11,479 --> 01:17:13,680
Speaker 7: a little with him because he's he's a guy that

1735
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:17,040
Speaker 7: plays very violently, and he's had quite a few injuries

1736
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:19,640
Speaker 7: kind of you know, rack up over the years, but

1737
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:22,759
Speaker 7: when he's at one hundred percent, he is an absolute monster.

1738
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 3: See he talked about what type of player he is,

1739
01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:26,200
Speaker 3: what type of dude is he?

1740
01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:30,080
Speaker 7: That's harder to figure out, even though I was around

1741
01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:35,120
Speaker 7: him for an entire year, because you know, I think

1742
01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:37,880
Speaker 7: that he is kind of walks to the beat of

1743
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:41,000
Speaker 7: his own drama a little bit. You know, I did

1744
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:43,120
Speaker 7: not none of us reporters got to know him very

1745
01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:47,080
Speaker 7: well because he was never available. He was around in

1746
01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:49,200
Speaker 7: training camp, and we interviewed him a couple of times,

1747
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:52,760
Speaker 7: and then just totally m ia in the locker room

1748
01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:56,680
Speaker 7: to the point where reporters had to kind of do

1749
01:17:56,840 --> 01:17:59,599
Speaker 7: the thing where you can get fined if you don't talk,

1750
01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:03,000
Speaker 7: like technically supposed to be available every week. But you know,

1751
01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:05,040
Speaker 7: we're not going to push that too hard for a

1752
01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:07,320
Speaker 7: guy who's not around for a few weeks. But if

1753
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:10,080
Speaker 7: you spend the whole season, you know we're gonna eventually

1754
01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 7: say something when you're a star player. So that's just

1755
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:15,400
Speaker 7: by the NFL rules. So we eventually had to kind

1756
01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 7: of enact that and get him to talk right before

1757
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:21,639
Speaker 7: the playoffs. But I think he went aside from talking

1758
01:18:21,720 --> 01:18:24,479
Speaker 7: after games, I think he went almost the whole season

1759
01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:27,160
Speaker 7: without talking in the locker room at all. So it's

1760
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:29,800
Speaker 7: hard to say what kind of guy exactly he is.

1761
01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:32,840
Speaker 7: I mean, I know, as a football player, yeah, you know,

1762
01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:36,519
Speaker 7: super driven. And it seemed to me at least that

1763
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:39,160
Speaker 7: he got, you know, to be good friends with Daniel

1764
01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:41,760
Speaker 7: Hunter and that they related really well to each other

1765
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:44,800
Speaker 7: and played off each other extremely well. So it kind

1766
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:46,479
Speaker 7: of seemed like they had kind of a bro thing

1767
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:49,599
Speaker 7: going on, which maybe he'll have with Miles Garrett as well.

1768
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:51,840
Speaker 7: But there are guys in the locker room that you

1769
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:53,599
Speaker 7: get to know really well over the years, and there

1770
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:55,880
Speaker 7: are other guys who are ghosts in there, and he

1771
01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:56,519
Speaker 7: was a ghost.

1772
01:18:57,920 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 4: So you've got a couple of former Vikings now doubt

1773
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:03,000
Speaker 4: and Tomlinson as well on that line with Sadarius Smith.

1774
01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:05,680
Speaker 4: And you know, you've told us about Dalvin and it

1775
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:07,880
Speaker 4: feels like the Browns have put together a pretty good

1776
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:11,080
Speaker 4: group here alongside the great Miles Garrett. But what you

1777
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:14,000
Speaker 4: described was Sadarius Smith. It almost sounds like it's going

1778
01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:16,040
Speaker 4: to be a very difficult situation for people to try

1779
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:18,720
Speaker 4: to deal with him as well as Miles Garrett at

1780
01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:20,439
Speaker 4: the same time, much like they had with Danil Hunter

1781
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:22,160
Speaker 4: and Sadarius Smith in Minnesota.

1782
01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:22,800
Speaker 3: Would you agree with that?

1783
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 7: Oh, one hundred percent. And I think that you can't

1784
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:29,640
Speaker 7: leave Dalvin Tomlinson out of the pass rush part of that,

1785
01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:32,800
Speaker 7: because I think in years past you probably could. But

1786
01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:35,639
Speaker 7: what I was so impressed by last year was Delvin

1787
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 7: Tomlinson adding to his toolbox. And it was something I

1788
01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:41,960
Speaker 7: wrote about and did an article with Dalvin about how

1789
01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:44,920
Speaker 7: year in and year out he had just built up

1790
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:47,760
Speaker 7: more of a repertoire of pass rush moves and better

1791
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:50,479
Speaker 7: understanding how to read plays and when he can attack

1792
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:52,840
Speaker 7: and when he has to kind of hold back and stuff.

1793
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:54,680
Speaker 7: Gaps and things like that, And I think what you

1794
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:58,920
Speaker 7: have now is this defense that can kind of morph

1795
01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:01,760
Speaker 7: in any way you wanted to. Because if you need

1796
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:05,000
Speaker 7: dlvin Tomlinson to play knows right over the center, he

1797
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:06,840
Speaker 7: could do that. If you wanted to play three tech

1798
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:09,000
Speaker 7: and attack a gap, he can do that. And if

1799
01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:12,800
Speaker 7: you want Zadarius Smith pretty much anywhere outside of outside cornerback,

1800
01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:16,479
Speaker 7: he can do that as well. And there's just not

1801
01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:19,200
Speaker 7: too many guys that weigh two hundred and sixty pounds

1802
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:21,759
Speaker 7: who you can just be moving all over the place,

1803
01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:24,519
Speaker 7: but Zadarias Smith is one of them. So I think

1804
01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:28,080
Speaker 7: that what everybody is searching for in the NFL is

1805
01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:31,560
Speaker 7: how much can we line up in a way that

1806
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:35,360
Speaker 7: is unpredictable to the offense. And what you've gained there

1807
01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:39,880
Speaker 7: with both Tomlinson but especially Zadarias Smith is an unpredictable element.

1808
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:41,920
Speaker 7: You know where Miles Garrett's going to be rushing for

1809
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:45,200
Speaker 7: from every time, but you don't know where these other

1810
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:47,439
Speaker 7: guys are going to be lining up on a play

1811
01:20:47,479 --> 01:20:49,800
Speaker 7: to play basis, And I would say that that should

1812
01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:52,040
Speaker 7: be pretty scary. And that's the thing about the Vikings

1813
01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:55,439
Speaker 7: defense last year. The defensive line was good. It was

1814
01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:58,240
Speaker 7: just they couldn't cover anybody, so you still have to cover.

1815
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:01,760
Speaker 7: But if they can re create what the Vikings had

1816
01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:05,400
Speaker 7: with Hunter, Tomlinson and Zadarius Smith, that's gonna be pretty

1817
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 7: good for you.

1818
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:09,479
Speaker 2: Matthew. The Vike's done or where they do you think

1819
01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:11,479
Speaker 2: there could be more moves with that with that operation

1820
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:14,080
Speaker 2: our gut Kacy get got a lot going on up there.

1821
01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:18,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that number one, they're probably going to

1822
01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:22,640
Speaker 7: release Delvin Cook, so that's certainly around the corner. At

1823
01:21:22,680 --> 01:21:25,280
Speaker 7: some point. It goes under the same category of things

1824
01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:28,040
Speaker 7: we've just been waiting for, and I think that they've

1825
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:32,160
Speaker 7: been trying hard to make a trade, but this one,

1826
01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:35,519
Speaker 7: with having that Andrew Barry Quasi relationship, I think was

1827
01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:39,080
Speaker 7: probably really helpful to getting this done because I would

1828
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:41,600
Speaker 7: guess a lot of the league was like, yeah, we

1829
01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:43,759
Speaker 7: know you have to cut that guy for cap purposes,

1830
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:46,320
Speaker 7: so we're not going to help you. But for the Vikings,

1831
01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:48,720
Speaker 7: I think they wanted Zadarius and the AFC and not

1832
01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 7: like signing with the Bears or something. But yeah, Delvin Cook,

1833
01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:54,760
Speaker 7: I mean Dalvin Cook. When you look at his contract,

1834
01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:57,800
Speaker 7: you look at the mileage on that body. The fact

1835
01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:00,920
Speaker 7: that he had shoulder surgery coming off is clearly, in

1836
01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:03,639
Speaker 7: my mind, his worst year of his career. Pretty hard

1837
01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:06,400
Speaker 7: to get anybody to trade for him. Very similar situation

1838
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:09,800
Speaker 7: to Ezekiel Elliott, where once these running backs are done,

1839
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:12,680
Speaker 7: they're kind of done and it's unfortunate. And you know,

1840
01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:15,400
Speaker 7: I grew up in the era of the great you

1841
01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:18,880
Speaker 7: know Leroy Hordes and you know Ernest Biner's and guys

1842
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:21,960
Speaker 7: like that, who were carrying the load for their teams

1843
01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:24,400
Speaker 7: and playing even into their thirties. But we just don't

1844
01:22:24,439 --> 01:22:27,200
Speaker 7: see that a whole lot anymore. These running backs kind

1845
01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:29,720
Speaker 7: of get used up and then go about, you know,

1846
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:31,599
Speaker 7: go on their way. So that's that's kind of where

1847
01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:33,400
Speaker 7: Delvin Cook is at. And I think the Vikings are

1848
01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:35,720
Speaker 7: ready to look at some of the younger guys that

1849
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:38,839
Speaker 7: they've drafted. But aside from that, it will be interesting

1850
01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:41,439
Speaker 7: to see how they use this cap space, Like are

1851
01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:44,920
Speaker 7: they looking to find just maybe another role player or something,

1852
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:48,439
Speaker 7: or my guess would be they want to use it

1853
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:53,360
Speaker 7: in part for contract extensions, because justin Jefferson can be extended.

1854
01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:56,040
Speaker 7: We don't know what's going on exactly with Daniel Hunter

1855
01:22:56,240 --> 01:22:59,559
Speaker 7: his contract needs to be addressed, and then TJ Hockinson

1856
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:02,519
Speaker 7: as well. So this this was really a forced move

1857
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:05,439
Speaker 7: with Zadarius where they had to do this to create

1858
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:08,640
Speaker 7: some flexibility. And that's why I think if you're on

1859
01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:11,000
Speaker 7: the brown side, you're you're pretty happy with it because

1860
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:13,120
Speaker 7: you got a great player for essentially nothing.

1861
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:16,320
Speaker 3: Right, were you shocked at the compensation?

1862
01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:18,360
Speaker 4: I mean, if you were, if we're doing in some

1863
01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:20,799
Speaker 4: here and they got two picks back, but Andrew Berry's

1864
01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:24,000
Speaker 4: last two year straight three fifth round picks, future fifth

1865
01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:26,600
Speaker 4: round picks, and gotten Amari Cooper and Zadarius Smith.

1866
01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:30,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, I know. I mean that's that's That's the the

1867
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:33,479
Speaker 7: economics of the NFL though, right, is that like if

1868
01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:36,800
Speaker 7: every team was on the same plane with their situations

1869
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:39,479
Speaker 7: cap wise, then we wouldn't see deals like this, and

1870
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:41,559
Speaker 7: Zadarius would be worth a heck of a lot more.

1871
01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:45,080
Speaker 7: Probably just fair compensation for him is something more like

1872
01:23:45,160 --> 01:23:47,920
Speaker 7: a second round draft pick based on his talent and production.

1873
01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:52,120
Speaker 7: But but that's not how the leverage game works, right.

1874
01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:55,320
Speaker 7: I mean that every team in the league knew that

1875
01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:57,600
Speaker 7: Zadarius Smith was done as a Viking, and that the

1876
01:23:57,680 --> 01:24:01,200
Speaker 7: Vikings had no flexibility at all with the cap I'm

1877
01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:03,880
Speaker 7: pretty sure they were dead last for cap space, and

1878
01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:07,400
Speaker 7: so something had to happen. And if you're another team,

1879
01:24:07,640 --> 01:24:10,439
Speaker 7: you're probably thinking, we'll just wait till he gets released

1880
01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:12,960
Speaker 7: and then we'll sign him. And then you know, Andrew

1881
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:16,040
Speaker 7: Berry smartly whoops in and takes him for a fifth

1882
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:18,600
Speaker 7: round pick. But that also means you know, taking on

1883
01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:20,920
Speaker 7: the cap hit as well, and things like that. So

1884
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:24,519
Speaker 7: I mean, I yeah, I wasn't surprised because I've figured

1885
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:26,840
Speaker 7: from the outset that if they could get anything great

1886
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:28,880
Speaker 7: for him, they would have already gotten it by now.

1887
01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:31,719
Speaker 7: And this is just kind of like the Amari Cooper

1888
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:33,200
Speaker 7: thing was the one that I brought up on my

1889
01:24:33,320 --> 01:24:36,479
Speaker 7: show repeatedly when people would ask, oh, can we trade

1890
01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:40,479
Speaker 7: Zadarias for a first or second round pick? Like, no, no,

1891
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:43,080
Speaker 7: you can't because everyone knows you know. It's it's like

1892
01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:45,439
Speaker 7: when you're when you're moving or something and you have

1893
01:24:45,560 --> 01:24:48,240
Speaker 7: to do a yard sale. Everybody knows you moving and

1894
01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:50,000
Speaker 7: you got to sell your stuff. They're not giving you

1895
01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:51,479
Speaker 7: full price for your old nikes.

1896
01:24:52,880 --> 01:24:55,759
Speaker 2: Matthew, I love that last line. Great stuff, buddy, appreciate

1897
01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:57,280
Speaker 2: your time and hopping on with us again today.

1898
01:24:58,280 --> 01:24:59,519
Speaker 7: Yeah, sure thing, thanks for having me.

1899
01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:03,400
Speaker 2: That's Matthew Coller. He's great Purple insider calling in on

1900
01:25:03,439 --> 01:25:04,640
Speaker 2: the Twisted Tea hotline.

1901
01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:05,320
Speaker 3: Of course.

1902
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:08,040
Speaker 2: Twisted T hardezed T official sponsor for your Cleveland Browns.

1903
01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:11,599
Speaker 2: Keep it Twisted, Cleveland. Dalvin Cook is twenty seven years

1904
01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:14,080
Speaker 2: of age. He's four and a half yards to carry

1905
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:16,600
Speaker 2: a year ago, four point seven, the year before that,

1906
01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:21,560
Speaker 2: five the year before that. He's what happened at this

1907
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:24,360
Speaker 2: position where there is no longevity?

1908
01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:27,120
Speaker 3: I think yes.

1909
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:31,320
Speaker 4: My theory is that you even with the expanding salary

1910
01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:33,680
Speaker 4: cap and even with everything the money going up and

1911
01:25:33,800 --> 01:25:37,560
Speaker 4: up and up, it's that teams feel like there is

1912
01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:41,919
Speaker 4: an abundance of running backs in the draft. Alexander Madison's

1913
01:25:41,960 --> 01:25:43,920
Speaker 4: on their roster. I mean, Dalvin Cook's a four time

1914
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:46,200
Speaker 4: Pro Bowl or four c Pro Bowl last year. Yeah,

1915
01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:49,120
Speaker 4: He's rushed for eleven hundred yards or more four straight seasons,

1916
01:25:49,160 --> 01:25:51,720
Speaker 4: four point five yards of carry basically every year of

1917
01:25:51,800 --> 01:25:53,560
Speaker 4: his career, as you pointed out, and he can do

1918
01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:56,200
Speaker 4: some damage catching the ball. He's given you a thirteen

1919
01:25:56,280 --> 01:25:59,719
Speaker 4: hundred plus scrimmage yards four straight seasons and is averaged

1920
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:03,679
Speaker 4: in that time almost twelve touchdowns a season total touchdowns.

1921
01:26:03,920 --> 01:26:06,320
Speaker 4: He's a stud. I mean, bottom line, he's a stud.

1922
01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:09,720
Speaker 4: But there is when you think about what you have

1923
01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:12,920
Speaker 4: to pay a running back at that level to keep them.

1924
01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:15,680
Speaker 4: Many teams are saying it does not make sense. And

1925
01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:17,800
Speaker 4: that's why I think there is a reality around the

1926
01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:20,599
Speaker 4: league that you know, what Derrick Henry's doing is somewhat

1927
01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:23,760
Speaker 4: of anomaly. But the re they also can't compete at

1928
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:25,639
Speaker 4: the level they want to because they have so much

1929
01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:27,040
Speaker 4: money invested in Derrick Henry.

1930
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Speaker 2: And so no, no, I'm not saying that. I'm saying,

1931
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:31,519
Speaker 2: why does it feel like they're done at twenty eight?

1932
01:26:31,800 --> 01:26:35,120
Speaker 3: I don't think he's done. I don't think anybody munay him.

1933
01:26:35,240 --> 01:26:36,800
Speaker 2: No, but I mean him and Zeke like, and I

1934
01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:39,680
Speaker 2: think he's not done as Zeke. Yeah, Zeke's falling off

1935
01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:42,680
Speaker 2: the last three years. Down's got way more in the

1936
01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:45,120
Speaker 2: tank like someone's. It's gonna be theft for somebody. But

1937
01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:47,439
Speaker 2: even Kareem wasn't the same this year, like you could

1938
01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:49,160
Speaker 2: tell like he was, he didn't have the same pep

1939
01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:51,320
Speaker 2: in his step like for example. And I understand that

1940
01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:53,880
Speaker 2: this guy ends up being really really good from a

1941
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Speaker 2: all time rusher standpoint, Frank Gore had five thousand yard

1942
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Speaker 2: seasons after age twenty eight. Yeah, Like, so I wonder

1943
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Speaker 2: if it is, And of course he mentioned Leroy Hard

1944
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Speaker 2: and Ernest s Beyner. Like you go back to then,

1945
01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:11,360
Speaker 2: then running backs were around for a dozen years. You

1946
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Speaker 2: draft a running back, they're around for a dozen years.

1947
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Speaker 2: The game was more physical than I'm wondering if the

1948
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Speaker 2: idea of it is, how much do you think of

1949
01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:21,559
Speaker 2: it could be that kids are coming out of college

1950
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Speaker 2: more at a higher level from a pass pro perspective

1951
01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:29,839
Speaker 2: to where they're more ready to catch out of the backfield,

1952
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:33,000
Speaker 2: they're more ready to protect and blitz situations because the

1953
01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:35,519
Speaker 2: college game passes so much. Because I'm guessing that a

1954
01:27:35,560 --> 01:27:37,240
Speaker 2: lot of the reason these guys hung around for so

1955
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Speaker 2: long as there was a trust factor with them. Right.

1956
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Speaker 4: Partly that and partly that's what the game was built around.

1957
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Speaker 4: It was built around four yards and a cloud of dust. Right,

1958
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Speaker 4: But the same thing would have applied. There would have

1959
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:49,800
Speaker 4: been more running backs then than there were now, same amount, Right,

1960
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Speaker 4: I think you're looking at it. I think what you're

1961
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Speaker 4: considering them to be done is people can still produce

1962
01:27:55,439 --> 01:27:57,360
Speaker 4: at these ages. Yeah, but nobody wants to make the

1963
01:27:57,479 --> 01:27:58,719
Speaker 4: investment in them two.

1964
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Speaker 2: Kids, So you think that they they just don't want

1965
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Speaker 2: to pay it a lesser number, They don't want to

1966
01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:03,599
Speaker 2: play much at a lesser number.

1967
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Speaker 4: I think that because they get weeded out for sure,

1968
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Speaker 4: And it's not even like Leonard Fournette doesn't have a team.

1969
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Speaker 4: Can Leonard Fournette play, Sure, but you could also get

1970
01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:12,560
Speaker 4: somebody who's reasonably close to him in the draft and

1971
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Speaker 4: maybe the fourth, fifth, sixth someth round, Isaiah Pacheco, all

1972
01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:18,400
Speaker 4: those things. Like I'll take the example of the Eagles,

1973
01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:20,680
Speaker 4: what the Eagles did, and you have to make decisions

1974
01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:23,200
Speaker 4: in the NFL right now, and I think a decision

1975
01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:24,800
Speaker 4: that a lot of teams are making is I'm not

1976
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Speaker 4: paying for that running back production.

1977
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Speaker 2: No, you would never pay for the running back. But

1978
01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:31,680
Speaker 2: it does feel like that when at by twenty eight,

1979
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Speaker 2: like they're done, like no one has an interest in them.

1980
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Speaker 4: So the the Eagles this year are going to have

1981
01:28:38,120 --> 01:28:41,320
Speaker 4: DeAndre Swift, Kenneth Gainwell, Rashad Penny, and Boston Scott to

1982
01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:43,680
Speaker 4: play running back for them for a total I think

1983
01:28:43,720 --> 01:28:46,960
Speaker 4: it's something like five million dollars or less for all

1984
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Speaker 4: of them and the guys that left them Miles Sanders

1985
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:53,719
Speaker 4: for example, is they would have been paying like thirteen

1986
01:28:53,800 --> 01:28:56,439
Speaker 4: million dollars, so they still have a bunch of different

1987
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Speaker 4: parts that adds up to a better hole for cheaper Now.

1988
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Speaker 4: I get all that. That's I think it's just that simple. Yeah,

1989
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Speaker 4: I think it's just that simple. And guys may be

1990
01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:08,599
Speaker 4: too proud. Zeke may be too proud to take I'm

1991
01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:10,160
Speaker 4: not gonna come play for the league minimum.

1992
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Speaker 3: I don't care more. But because a guy like Latavius Murray.

1993
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Speaker 4: Is still in the league, because he's willing, willing to

1994
01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:16,680
Speaker 4: do that and is still productive and still is a big,

1995
01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:19,479
Speaker 4: physical back that can play at this level and help

1996
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Speaker 4: a team.

1997
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Speaker 3: But he's willing to do that.

1998
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so much more to come.

1999
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