WEBVTT - Make THESE MLB Bets Before Opening Day w/ Derek Carty (Ep. 679)

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<v Speaker 1>The Welsh and I sat down with Derek Carty to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about some of the best bets you can make

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<v Speaker 1>in Major League Baseball in twenty twenty five. Joining us

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<v Speaker 1>Derek Carty for the great minds and sports, just sports,

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<v Speaker 1>and fantastic hair. By the way, I feel very inadequate today.

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<v Speaker 1>Welsh's hair is extremely Jimmy Neutron high. Derek Carty has

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<v Speaker 1>got a really nice lift going on. I, on the

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<v Speaker 1>other hand, clean as a whistle, but nothing to show

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<v Speaker 1>up there. But we've got a lot to show you today.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a phenomenal lineup coming in the next couple

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<v Speaker 1>hours here for you. So stay with us for all

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<v Speaker 1>of the fantasy baseball fests because we're gonna talk about

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna talk prospects, we're gonna talk bus we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very excited for baseball season and watching some spring

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<v Speaker 1>training games the last couple of days. I'm at that

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<v Speaker 1>point though, where I'm like, all right, I'm done, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>over spring training. Derek Cardy, are you like that as well,

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<v Speaker 1>where you just feel like spring training just lingers? Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that one extra week too long, because that's where I'm at.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I can always use the extra week to get

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<v Speaker 2>stuff prepared, But in terms of just like wanting baseball

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<v Speaker 2>right now, yeah, like I'm ready.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go, We're ready to go. And what we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk about with Derek Carty today is some

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<v Speaker 1>of our best Major League Baseball bets. Now I've already

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<v Speaker 1>put a few of them out there. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>be locking them in Betting Pros, So make sure you

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<v Speaker 1>subscribe to Betting Pros as well. That channel, but also

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<v Speaker 1>get the betting pros app and you can follow me

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<v Speaker 1>at Joe Pisapo there. Because I have a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>big feelings about some of these futures. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>start with a low wind total here of the Chicago

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<v Speaker 1>White Sox, because Derek Carty, that's where you're starting. And

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<v Speaker 1>I understand the White Sox are bad, and I love

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<v Speaker 1>that small numbers sometimes are easy w's. But I want

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<v Speaker 1>to hear the reasoning behind this White Sox over on

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<v Speaker 1>the wind total.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm sure this is the first bet that everybody

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<v Speaker 2>that's tuning in wants to here. You tune in to

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<v Speaker 2>hear me talk about why the White Socks are going

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<v Speaker 2>to be are going to be good this year.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you did this with the A's last year,

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<v Speaker 3>didn't didn't you. It's like you just got to pick

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<v Speaker 3>the bottom barrel of it all. I love it, Cardi,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll get in the mud.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going with the White Sox over over sixty or

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<v Speaker 2>over fifty three and a half wins. I think the

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<v Speaker 2>best line right now is might like minus one tenant DraftKings.

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<v Speaker 2>This opened at fifty at some books, and it's been

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<v Speaker 2>creeping up. There's some sixty four and a half's out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you look at what the bad X. My projection

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<v Speaker 2>system is projecting for the White Sox though, it's projecting

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<v Speaker 2>sixty six wins and we're getting a fifty three and

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<v Speaker 2>a half line, Like, it's just absurd. The line is

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<v Speaker 2>too low. It's too low. I said the same thing

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<v Speaker 2>last year with Oakland, and it worked out really nicely

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<v Speaker 2>when a team was as bad or looked as bad

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<v Speaker 2>as the White Sox did last year. Of course the

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<v Speaker 2>betting market is going to be, like, nobody wants to

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<v Speaker 2>bet the over on them, so we can set whatever

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<v Speaker 2>line we want, because no one really wants to bet

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<v Speaker 2>the over.

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<v Speaker 4>No matter what line we put.

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<v Speaker 2>And so they said it even lower than they probably should,

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<v Speaker 2>and that gives us. That gives us value on betting

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<v Speaker 2>the over if we.

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<v Speaker 4>Have the stones to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>So, yeah, the White Sox were really really bad last year.

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<v Speaker 2>They are actually a really bad team, but they're not

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<v Speaker 2>like historically bad. Probably most teams are not just by sheer.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably they were last year. They were historically bad last year.

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<v Speaker 3>But to your point, yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Are they actually that bad or did they just were

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<v Speaker 2>they bad? Combined with just like you know bad variants

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<v Speaker 2>over one hundred and sixty two games. Most likely it's

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<v Speaker 2>the second one.

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<v Speaker 4>They're bad.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't projected for the second fewest wins in baseball

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<v Speaker 2>this year, or maybe even the most or losses rather

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<v Speaker 2>or maybe the most losses in baseball, but fifty three

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<v Speaker 2>and a half is extremely low. You have to be really, really,

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<v Speaker 2>really bad, and it's almost impossible to project any team's

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<v Speaker 2>true talent level to be that bad.

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<v Speaker 3>Ever, and by the way, people don't people realize they should.

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<v Speaker 3>Derek Cardi, creator of the bat and the bat x projections,

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<v Speaker 3>which you can see on Fangraphs, and you see all

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<v Speaker 3>over the place rated out this year as well on

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<v Speaker 3>the baseball projections here at Fantasy Pros. One question for

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<v Speaker 3>you on that total. When you're doing season long totals

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<v Speaker 3>like this where you're getting minus money bets, so you're,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you're a fifty three and a half I

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<v Speaker 3>think was the number, and you're betting a season long

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<v Speaker 3>at minus money, what's your relative approach to Like I

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<v Speaker 3>wanna go too crazy into like unit betting, but like

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<v Speaker 3>you know, like someone's like, hey, you know, I usually

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<v Speaker 3>bet this on normal stuff. But you got to wait

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<v Speaker 3>a whole season long, Like, what is your approach to

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<v Speaker 3>betting this? Are you like five units in when you're

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<v Speaker 3>betting a win total to play out for the whole season?

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<v Speaker 3>Same thing I guess would apply for The only problem

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<v Speaker 3>is like awards, you know you're getting big plus money

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<v Speaker 3>these type of like over home run, I've got one

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna play or something like this, Like how are

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<v Speaker 3>you unit betting this type of bet?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean minus one tens standard, so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's kind of you know, your normal amount. The

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<v Speaker 2>only thing I'll say is that I don't put a

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<v Speaker 2>ton into season long props just because you have to

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<v Speaker 2>wait until the end of the season or in the

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<v Speaker 2>case of the White Sox maybe until August.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's that's kind of what I mean by there,

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<v Speaker 3>because like you're investing in a standard one ten bet,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's dragging over the entire season, Like, are you

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<v Speaker 3>more compelled to be like, well, if I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>season long this, I love this. This has got to

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<v Speaker 3>be you know, five units in what I would normally

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<v Speaker 3>do on just a daily bet.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a it's not a question that has an

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<v Speaker 2>actual correct answer. It's kind of just like how do

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<v Speaker 2>you feel about tying up your money that long? What

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<v Speaker 2>does your bankroll look like? What do you want to

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<v Speaker 2>you know, be able to have in the chamber for

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<v Speaker 2>the season. This one does project really well. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>the kind of person though that it's like, well, this

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<v Speaker 2>one I like a lot, so I'm just going to

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<v Speaker 2>fire five or ten units at it. The way I

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<v Speaker 2>approach betting is that I'm going to place a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of bets long term, and usually i'm I'm flat betting,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I'm not saying, Okay, this one's definitely gonna win,

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<v Speaker 2>and this one I don't know if this one's gonna win.

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<v Speaker 2>Like every bet I place, I think is positive expected value.

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<v Speaker 2>I place the bet I'm going to lose some and

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<v Speaker 2>in the long run I expect to win more than

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<v Speaker 2>I lose and to come out profitable.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's that's always been the case.

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<v Speaker 2>So here, I do think the edge on this one

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<v Speaker 2>is big, but I'm not recommending you bet your.

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<v Speaker 4>House on it.

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<v Speaker 1>No, Well that's good, you know. It's funny. Timing is

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<v Speaker 1>everything when it comes to wagers. Two. Because I went

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<v Speaker 1>and bet the Red Sox over the weekend before the

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<v Speaker 1>Garrett Cole News and the quote unquote second opinion came

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<v Speaker 1>out to win the American League East and I got

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<v Speaker 1>a number in the three fifties and now it's dropped

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<v Speaker 1>to the two seventies after the Garrett Cole news drop.

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<v Speaker 1>So timing is everything when you're looking at making your

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<v Speaker 1>wagers too. So if you see opportunities.

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<v Speaker 2>On some anti Yankees bets earlier that are looking look

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<v Speaker 2>pretty good right now, like Yankee not to make the

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<v Speaker 2>playoffs plus two point fifty.

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<v Speaker 4>Kind of thing or under ninety wins or whatever it

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<v Speaker 4>was said.

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<v Speaker 1>At Yeah, well Derek Cary has already got me going

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<v Speaker 1>after the show to bet something else now that he's

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<v Speaker 1>dropped that one on me. But that's the whole point

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<v Speaker 1>is that you know, when you anticipate good news or

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<v Speaker 1>bad news, there's sometimes value in the market, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>something you have to pay attention to that's out there now.

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<v Speaker 1>I see, don't give him the stick? Has a question?

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<v Speaker 1>Can we ask questions answer our the live stream? The

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<v Speaker 1>answer is yes, yes, you absolutely can. We want your

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<v Speaker 1>questions here, so drop them. We'll try to get through

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<v Speaker 1>as many as we can. But if you definitively must

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<v Speaker 1>have your question answered, you need it you got to

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<v Speaker 1>keep your question, you got a draft going on, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>you got happening, you can superchat us as well. So

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<v Speaker 1>superchats are available today and we will get to as many,

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<v Speaker 1>if not all, the super chats and they will get

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<v Speaker 1>priority in our chat. But doesn't mean you can't just

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<v Speaker 1>drop some questions in there too. We're going to do

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<v Speaker 1>to get a twenty five thousand before we get to

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<v Speaker 1>very close. I believe in us, and of course Welsh

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<v Speaker 1>and I will do something stupid in honor of twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five thousand. So if that's not inxtentive, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what is. Speaking of the Boston Red Sox so I

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned earlier Garrett Crochet, well you've got a wager on

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<v Speaker 1>him that you're looking to place, and I really like

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<v Speaker 1>this one too. It's one that I am planning on

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<v Speaker 1>betting as soon as he gets right there at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of spring training. I don't like to make too

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<v Speaker 1>many bets before spring training's over because anything can happen,

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<v Speaker 1>but this one is definitely all my rdar. Well let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I don't do as well a bunch of

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<v Speaker 3>crazy season long bets like Cardi saying it's not huge

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<v Speaker 3>in my market. But last year on this Fantasy Fest,

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<v Speaker 3>what was my play, Joe, It was stolen based leader

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<v Speaker 3>Ellie de la Cruz at six to one. This is

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<v Speaker 3>my Ellie for this year, and it is Garrett Crochet

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<v Speaker 3>to lead the league in strikeouts, and I found it

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<v Speaker 3>as good as ten to one right now, so even

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<v Speaker 3>better than that Ellie number. As you can see up

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<v Speaker 3>on the screen, we've got some projections up there. I'll

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<v Speaker 3>throw a few things at you with Garrett Croche and

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<v Speaker 3>you're probably at nauseum. You've heard me talk about Gerrett

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<v Speaker 3>Croche on Fantasy pros videos everywhere. According to the bat

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<v Speaker 3>Derek Carty's projection system, Garrett Crochet is projected fifth in

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<v Speaker 3>the league in strikeouts at two hundred and six so

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<v Speaker 3>that is twelve less strikeouts than the leader, who is

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<v Speaker 3>Dylan Cease at two hundred and eighteen strikeouts. But it's

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<v Speaker 3>all about the innings. It is all about the innings

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<v Speaker 3>of Garrett Croche. Thirty more projected innings for that leader

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<v Speaker 3>Dylan Crue than Garrett Crochet. According to the BAT. In

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<v Speaker 3>most projection systems, he's right around the one fifty marker

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<v Speaker 3>one fifty two to be exact, so thirty less innings

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<v Speaker 3>projected than Dylan Cees. Yet he is one of, if

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<v Speaker 3>not the top, across multiple projection systems you look. He

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<v Speaker 3>is one or two in k per nine. According to

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<v Speaker 3>the BAT, there are eight projected two hundred strikeout pitchers.

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<v Speaker 3>Six of those eight have at least one hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>seventy three or more projected innings, So again, that is

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<v Speaker 3>twenty less innings than any of those other players. The

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<v Speaker 3>only other guy is Blake Snell, who is like a

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<v Speaker 3>strikeout or two less a couple more innings than Garrett Croche.

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<v Speaker 3>I love this, I love the team context, the division. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 3>can you bring in some questions here, but at the

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<v Speaker 3>end of the day, I think it's easy to play

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<v Speaker 3>in a world where he can blow past these projected innings.

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<v Speaker 3>He had one hundred and forty six innings last season

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<v Speaker 3>last season, and we are barely projecting any positive upside

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<v Speaker 3>on innings. So now you're looking at a Yankees team

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<v Speaker 3>that's playing from behind. You guys want to place bets

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<v Speaker 3>up on the Red Sox to take to the division,

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<v Speaker 3>They're gonna need Garrett Crochet more than ever. There's obviously

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<v Speaker 3>an injury toll of making any starting pitcher bet, but

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<v Speaker 3>you're looking at one of the highest strikeout pitchers in baseball,

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<v Speaker 3>and the only thing that is holding him back from

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<v Speaker 3>every single projection system being the leader in strikeouts are

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<v Speaker 3>those innings. And I think there is a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>cushion on those innings, and I think there's a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of value on that. That's the other thing. If Garrett

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<v Speaker 3>Crochet was like four to one or like second in strikeouts,

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<v Speaker 3>this might feel.

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<v Speaker 4>A little bit different.

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<v Speaker 3>We're talking close to ten to one right now on

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<v Speaker 3>this bet. So this is my absolute favorite of any

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<v Speaker 3>of these. When you talk about awards or you know,

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<v Speaker 3>season long stat projecting type of things, I love Garrett

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<v Speaker 3>Croche to lead the league in strikeouts.

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<v Speaker 1>CARDI I'd be very curious at what you.

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<v Speaker 3>Have to say about this one, because I laid out

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<v Speaker 3>using your projection system some of what's on Crochet. What

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<v Speaker 3>do you think about placing this bet.

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<v Speaker 2>I like it for basically the reason that that you said,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, innings are are not even something that most

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<v Speaker 2>projection systems are projecting directly, like I'm not. I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>using ATC's basically aggregate innings projections. We don't know which

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<v Speaker 2>pictures are going to stay healthy, Like the innings are

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of like this guy hasn't really done it

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<v Speaker 2>before he could get hurt.

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<v Speaker 4>We're going to play conservative.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't know if Crochet is one of the guys

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<v Speaker 2>goes over two hundred innings, like he has the stuff

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<v Speaker 2>easily to be the leader. So yeah, if you're getting

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<v Speaker 2>great odds on it, then then I like it because

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<v Speaker 2>on a per rating basis, Crochet should certainly be better

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<v Speaker 2>than ten to one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and right now plus eight point fifty in some

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<v Speaker 1>markets I've seen has even gone down to So this

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<v Speaker 1>is one where you know, one less guy. And Garrett

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<v Speaker 1>Cole too now enters into that conversation too, so you

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<v Speaker 1>can see all of a sudden, when the field starts

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<v Speaker 1>to whittle down, all of a sudden, less competition. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the innings is clearly the only thing we have

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<v Speaker 1>to worry about here. But I'm with you, Wash, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not super worried, and I'm starting to really buy the

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<v Speaker 1>Red Sox here. I have him in a parlay for

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<v Speaker 1>a couple division. I like to do those. They're fun.

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<v Speaker 1>You throw a ten bucks, you can win a couple grand.

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<v Speaker 1>I got real close on two NFL ones last year,

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<v Speaker 1>one of which I did get late on a redo

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<v Speaker 1>that was a very nice return. But one of them

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<v Speaker 1>was I think it was like twenty bucks or something.

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<v Speaker 1>It would have brought back three grand, and I missed

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<v Speaker 1>it by one division. One division I got wrong. Very frustrating,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's fun. Nonetheless, this is the ride we take here.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's also go back to Cardi here for another one

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<v Speaker 1>of his picks. Before we do, I want to get

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<v Speaker 1>to some questions also that I have in the chat

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<v Speaker 1>right here from tough talk with teachers for end of

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<v Speaker 1>the show. Here, would you keep both Gunner and Trey

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<v Speaker 1>Turner in a keeper league? Cardi? Let's ask you this

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<v Speaker 1>question here. What do you think about Trey Turner and Gunner?

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<v Speaker 1>I know Gunner is dealing with some health issues right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Trey Turner, you know, obviously a slow start last year,

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<v Speaker 1>but things kind of came back around. I feel comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>keeping both these guys. If I can only keep one,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm keeping Gunner. But what are your thoughts here.

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<v Speaker 4>It kind of depends on what your alternatives are. How

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<v Speaker 4>many tempers? I mean, yeah, they're both worth keeping in

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<v Speaker 4>the right situation.

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<v Speaker 2>You're worried about Gunner's health, You're worried about Turner a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit, like he doesn't project as well as he

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<v Speaker 2>has in past years. But but yeah, if they if

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<v Speaker 2>they kind of set up as your best guy, sure,

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<v Speaker 2>I have no problem with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Next question here, don't give him the stick? Has one

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<v Speaker 1>for us we love? Don't give him the stick? Would

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<v Speaker 1>you would like to get our opinion about rp's and

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<v Speaker 1>a twelve team headhead categories league generally like to wait

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<v Speaker 1>until at least the six round of Chase says was

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<v Speaker 1>seeing rping going earlier in the mock drafts. Here's the

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<v Speaker 1>thing for me, Welsh is if you have a mandatory

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<v Speaker 1>RP spots that matters a little bit more. I'm more

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<v Speaker 1>apt to be a little bit more aggresive at least

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<v Speaker 1>get one guy. If not, you know, then I'm more

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<v Speaker 1>apt to wait and let the saves kind of fall

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<v Speaker 1>where they may. I like going late on the choices

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<v Speaker 1>and the Romanos and the Fairbanks and just maybe get

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<v Speaker 1>three guys and just kind of have some bodies in

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<v Speaker 1>there for those two RP spots. You are more of

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<v Speaker 1>a go get a closer early and you tend to

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<v Speaker 1>like to lock one in from what I've seen, especially

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<v Speaker 1>you a little bit more I did the head cats.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm more of a points fella. Where do you think

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of the sweet spot this year? With the

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<v Speaker 1>pool looking the way it is.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think like if you're playing in an NFBC,

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<v Speaker 3>you're gonna see, like, you know, closures going between the

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<v Speaker 3>second and third round, you might start seeing you know,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a class A, he's a hater into the fourth round,

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<v Speaker 3>So then I think you're gonna see a brunt start

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<v Speaker 3>pushing around the fifth sixth. I don't need to get

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<v Speaker 3>the top guys. I really love Andris Munios. That's probably

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<v Speaker 3>like that top is the bottom of the top tier

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<v Speaker 3>of the first closure that I want. I think there's

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<v Speaker 3>a bunch of value later. Kyle Finigan is still being

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<v Speaker 3>ranked low. Ryan Presley is still ranked really low in

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<v Speaker 3>a lot in ADP. He's like two forty right now

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<v Speaker 3>across an aggregate of ADP. I think there's a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of late closers, plus guys like AJ puck. I want

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<v Speaker 3>to get one, but follow the runs, pay attention to

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<v Speaker 3>the runs. Seven or eight closers go off the board,

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<v Speaker 3>then start paying attention. That's why I'm going to start

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<v Speaker 3>targeting a guy like Andres Munos.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't want to.

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<v Speaker 3>Be pushed if I have to to be drafting closers

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<v Speaker 3>in the floor round.

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<v Speaker 1>Got a Crochet question here, since we're just talking about him,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about this. Drafting Crochet at twenty two early

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<v Speaker 1>head to had points of strikeouts are worth a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not crazy to me, but he is going at

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<v Speaker 1>thirty six overall, more of a third round ish kind

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<v Speaker 1>of guy. CARDI, what do you think here? Do you

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<v Speaker 1>think it would pay to be more aggressive on Crochet

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<v Speaker 1>or I mean this is almost a whole round ahead early.

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<v Speaker 4>It's tough.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, like we said before with with Welsh's bet,

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<v Speaker 2>like Crochet's talent is elite, Like he's probably a top

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<v Speaker 2>or three pitcher in baseball. It's just like how deep

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<v Speaker 2>is he going to you know, how many innings he's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be able to throw? And pitching in Fenway's

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<v Speaker 2>not ideal. So twenty's probably a little high for me

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<v Speaker 2>when you weigh the risk, but I mean, I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be surprised if he pays that off.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's tough.

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<v Speaker 3>It's tough actually comparing against the guy who's going consensus four.

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<v Speaker 3>I have Garrett Crochet at four in my ranks, but

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<v Speaker 3>Logan Gilbert is the consensus four guy. And you want

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<v Speaker 3>to talk about consistency and innings. So you're battling this

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<v Speaker 3>upside potential down there's a downside to Gare Crochet pitching

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<v Speaker 3>in Boston, like like Derek said, but then you've got

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<v Speaker 3>all this upside versus this floor with not I don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to say there's not upside. There's still continuous upside

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<v Speaker 3>with with Gilbert as he continues to change up this

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<v Speaker 3>repertoire and throwing splitters and stuff like that. But that's

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<v Speaker 3>the battle that you're dealing with. It's like consistency of

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<v Speaker 3>Logan Gilbert or upside of Crochet. I did take Crochet

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<v Speaker 3>in the second round of my tout draft, but it

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<v Speaker 3>was bigger. It was fifteen team. I think I was

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit towards the back. I wanted to make

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<v Speaker 3>sure I got an sp and a few were coming

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<v Speaker 3>off of the board, so twenty might be a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit high, but maybe in reference if like five or

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<v Speaker 3>six pitchers are already off the board, you know, and

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<v Speaker 3>maybe he's got a long running you don't want to miss.

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<v Speaker 3>But I probably am not taking him at twenty to

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<v Speaker 3>be honest.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get back to some of the wagers. Hero's go

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<v Speaker 1>back to Derek speaking of Logan Gilbert. Logan Gilbert to

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<v Speaker 1>lead the league in wins. Now, the Seattle Mariners would

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<v Speaker 1>serve themselves a little bit better to possibly score some

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<v Speaker 1>more runs. I want to say, at home last year

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<v Speaker 1>when they scored three or more runs, they were forty

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<v Speaker 1>three and seven. Just get them three runs. That's all

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<v Speaker 1>we're asking for. Let's talk about Logan Gilbert, Derek and

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<v Speaker 1>what you see ahead for him in twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I like Logan Gilbert's lead to the league of wins

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<v Speaker 2>at draftkins. You can get it at thirty five to

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<v Speaker 2>one right now. You look at projections and it's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>why not this number. You look at who the bad

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<v Speaker 2>is projecting to win games this year. Logan Gilbert projects

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<v Speaker 2>a virtual tie per second at thirteen thirteen wins. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a handful of guys there. There's one guy at fourteen wins,

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<v Speaker 2>and most of those other guys are projected or are

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<v Speaker 2>priced more at like ten to one.

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<v Speaker 4>Thirty five to one.

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<v Speaker 2>For Gilbert, I think is great, you know, like you said,

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<v Speaker 2>the innings are there. He's very efficient, so he can

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<v Speaker 2>go deep into games, which is always great forgetting wins.

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<v Speaker 4>The talent level is elite, but without like the.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of crazy Garrett Crochet stuff that makes you worry

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<v Speaker 2>about injuries in today's today's kind of environment.

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<v Speaker 4>Obviously, any pitcher can get injured. It's not like we

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<v Speaker 4>can predict it at all.

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<v Speaker 2>But you feel a little more comfortable about a guy

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<v Speaker 2>like Gilbert than you do about a guy like Crochet

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<v Speaker 2>being able to pitch a full season. And the bat

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<v Speaker 2>has it sees this year, especially with the Cole News,

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<v Speaker 2>as like a very a year with a lot of parody,

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<v Speaker 2>like it only has two teams projected for more than

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<v Speaker 2>ninety wins. It has the Mariners projected for the fourth

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<v Speaker 2>most wins in baseball, kind of at the top of

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<v Speaker 2>that next heap, after the Dodgers and the.

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<v Speaker 4>Braves and so so.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if you're giving me thirty five to one on

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<v Speaker 2>logan Gilbert when he's basically projected for the Tide for

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<v Speaker 2>the second most on average.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you're giving me a good number. I'll take it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it certainly does look like a good number. And

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<v Speaker 1>look with his numbers from last year, they were pretty spectacular.

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<v Speaker 1>Logan Gilbert was an app rock star stud in fantasy

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<v Speaker 1>last year and in reality. And look at the intensity

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<v Speaker 1>on the face that was the same face that Welsh

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<v Speaker 1>made every Logan Gilbert Stark where he just could not

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<v Speaker 1>believe how good Logan Gilbert was.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the biggest egg on my face too is last year.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I remember me and you know we're talking

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<v Speaker 3>about it's like if you know, if you're gonna rely

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<v Speaker 3>on this splitter, it was like you want the fastball

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<v Speaker 3>to be this dominant fastball, and it's just like he

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<v Speaker 3>just keeps making it happen and those are the questions

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<v Speaker 3>and he's a workhorse. I'd say I made this bet

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<v Speaker 3>like I got this fo a little bit early from

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<v Speaker 3>Cardi for this show, and I one hundred percent made

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<v Speaker 3>this bet because also you're just you make the season

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<v Speaker 3>long bets, you know, depending what you know world you're in,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're looking to have some fun season long bets.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure there's one that's more fun than this.

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<v Speaker 3>Thirty five to one, a guy that's gonna push two

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<v Speaker 3>hundred innings. You can play to the wins. You're hoping

0:20:49.840 --> 0:20:51.720
<v Speaker 3>the offense is going to pick up. And I think

0:20:52.240 --> 0:20:54.439
<v Speaker 3>I just think there's a great potential return on this,

0:20:54.560 --> 0:20:56.280
<v Speaker 3>Like if there's gonna if you're gonna make a list

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<v Speaker 3>of four or five guys that are going to lead

0:20:58.320 --> 0:20:59.959
<v Speaker 3>the league and wins, I think Gilbert has to be

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<v Speaker 3>up there. And there's a reason why he's so lauded

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<v Speaker 3>in fantasy as well this year. So I think this

0:21:04.880 --> 0:21:07.479
<v Speaker 3>is a great, great pick. This is I mean, if

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<v Speaker 3>I'm again putting your investment in pitching season long props

0:21:12.160 --> 0:21:15.440
<v Speaker 3>is like the scariest thing. Crochet and Gilbert I think

0:21:15.440 --> 0:21:16.879
<v Speaker 3>are two really really fun ones.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's get to our first super chat here of

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<v Speaker 1>the day. Taylor only can keep two? Who would you keep?

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<v Speaker 1>Strider Glass Now McClanahan, franber Valdez, Sandy al Contra de

0:21:27.480 --> 0:21:30.640
<v Speaker 1>gram or Michael King can keep in hold like in Dynasty.

0:21:30.680 --> 0:21:33.240
<v Speaker 1>So it's a long time here for one of these.

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<v Speaker 1>So only can keep two of these guys? Now, look,

0:21:35.320 --> 0:21:38.040
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna miss Strider for most of this season, Glass

0:21:38.080 --> 0:21:38.920
<v Speaker 1>now Never.

0:21:39.400 --> 0:21:41.960
<v Speaker 3>No, Stryder's only gonna miss April. He should be back

0:21:41.960 --> 0:21:42.359
<v Speaker 3>in May.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll say late May. Let's be good part of the sea.

0:21:46.680 --> 0:21:49.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah sure, Glass now Never gives you one hundred and

0:21:49.359 --> 0:21:52.040
<v Speaker 1>fifty innings. McLanahan just had his arm remade, so it's

0:21:52.080 --> 0:21:54.720
<v Speaker 1>santy al contra. Those are the two most intriguing ones

0:21:54.720 --> 0:21:57.280
<v Speaker 1>to me on this list now that they've just been

0:21:58.280 --> 0:22:01.119
<v Speaker 1>reborn with the new arms. So well, you can only

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<v Speaker 1>keep two who are the two year keeping.

0:22:03.800 --> 0:22:06.040
<v Speaker 3>The context of how this is being asked, if this

0:22:06.200 --> 0:22:09.360
<v Speaker 3>was like, you can only have two keepers and that's

0:22:09.400 --> 0:22:12.520
<v Speaker 3>all you're keeping, then my answer would probably lean like

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit more towards like a redraft standpoint. So

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<v Speaker 3>then I might be like, well, you know, I might

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<v Speaker 3>push King into gram but obviously I'm assuming this is

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<v Speaker 3>a bigger keeper standpoint. I'm gonna go Michael King and

0:22:26.040 --> 0:22:29.080
<v Speaker 3>Strider be just because like, I know you're gonna miss

0:22:29.080 --> 0:22:31.159
<v Speaker 3>a month. I don't want to play against what you

0:22:31.200 --> 0:22:33.200
<v Speaker 3>can win now. But like Strider could be the number

0:22:33.240 --> 0:22:35.879
<v Speaker 3>one pitcher in baseball, he's gonna miss a month. If

0:22:35.880 --> 0:22:37.440
<v Speaker 3>he gets back to where he was, you have a

0:22:37.520 --> 0:22:39.080
<v Speaker 3>huge showing through the back of the year and you

0:22:39.119 --> 0:22:41.600
<v Speaker 3>get to keep him next year. And Michael King, I think,

0:22:41.680 --> 0:22:44.160
<v Speaker 3>is in a great spot if you wanted to knock

0:22:44.200 --> 0:22:46.960
<v Speaker 3>Michael King off for Shane McClanahan. I also think McClanahan

0:22:47.040 --> 0:22:48.960
<v Speaker 3>is one of those. But Strider McClanahan puts you in

0:22:48.960 --> 0:22:51.600
<v Speaker 3>a weird spot where maybe you're a little bit behind early.

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<v Speaker 3>But I do think like long, long term, if this

0:22:54.560 --> 0:22:57.840
<v Speaker 3>was dynasty, pure dynasty, because he says hold like a dynasty.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's no con tractors holding. Got Look, Grom's too

0:23:01.720 --> 0:23:03.600
<v Speaker 1>old to be captain. He hasn't thrown one hundred and

0:23:03.840 --> 0:23:06.720
<v Speaker 1>in five years. Like, I'm not not coming close to that. Derek,

0:23:06.760 --> 0:23:08.520
<v Speaker 1>Where do you land on this one? We've got some

0:23:08.560 --> 0:23:10.960
<v Speaker 1>different opinions. I'm going with the two guys who have

0:23:11.080 --> 0:23:13.200
<v Speaker 1>just been fixed. One of us just want to Cy

0:23:13.240 --> 0:23:15.320
<v Speaker 1>young two years ago, and I think people forget that

0:23:15.359 --> 0:23:17.680
<v Speaker 1>Sandi al Contra is that good and he's probably gonna

0:23:17.680 --> 0:23:19.960
<v Speaker 1>be on his way out of Miami sooner than later

0:23:20.000 --> 0:23:22.000
<v Speaker 1>to a contending team. Where do you land on this?

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<v Speaker 1>This is tough. There's a lot of talent here.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, a lot of talent to pick from.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you have to do Strider, I mean not

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<v Speaker 2>going to miss a ton of time this year could

0:23:30.480 --> 0:23:33.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean before last year he was being drafted rightfully,

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<v Speaker 2>so as as the top pitcher in fantasy by like

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<v Speaker 2>a huge margin, like nobody even touched him projection wise,

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<v Speaker 2>I think you have to take him, especially if this

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<v Speaker 2>is long term, and then if it's like a dynasty

0:23:46.240 --> 0:23:47.240
<v Speaker 2>kind of thing, just give him.

0:23:47.119 --> 0:23:48.520
<v Speaker 4>A clean and I'll take the risks.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fine. Yeah, all right, here's a fun one, and

0:23:51.320 --> 0:23:54.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean fun in air quotes Chris Derek Joe. If

0:23:54.560 --> 0:23:55.959
<v Speaker 1>you had to take a flyer on one of these

0:23:56.000 --> 0:23:58.720
<v Speaker 1>old farts, he called them aging legends. I'm gonna call

0:23:58.800 --> 0:24:02.600
<v Speaker 1>them old farts. Who who you got, Verlander or Scherzer, Cardi,

0:24:02.880 --> 0:24:04.040
<v Speaker 1>Who are you taking a shot on?

0:24:05.359 --> 0:24:07.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't mind taking a shot on either where they're

0:24:07.480 --> 0:24:11.600
<v Speaker 2>being drafted late. Give me Verlander, but it's not a

0:24:11.720 --> 0:24:16.080
<v Speaker 2>strong Give me Verlander other one.

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<v Speaker 1>Welch, how about you? Yeah?

0:24:17.000 --> 0:24:19.080
<v Speaker 3>Then Cardi said it really well, because it's like both

0:24:19.080 --> 0:24:22.080
<v Speaker 3>of them are just free. They're free ninety nine. I'll

0:24:22.080 --> 0:24:25.760
<v Speaker 3>probably go with you know, justin Fartlander there if you're

0:24:25.880 --> 0:24:28.400
<v Speaker 3>looking for the old farts, just because of the ballpark factor.

0:24:28.680 --> 0:24:31.000
<v Speaker 3>I think that's really beneficial. So I'll probably go with

0:24:31.080 --> 0:24:33.040
<v Speaker 3>Verlander here, but suresher did look pretty good.

0:24:33.640 --> 0:24:35.720
<v Speaker 1>All right, We're going to continue to take questions the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the day too. I want to get to

0:24:36.960 --> 0:24:39.800
<v Speaker 1>Welsh's other bet here real fast, so let's go back

0:24:39.840 --> 0:24:43.800
<v Speaker 1>to Michael tolia of the Colorado Rockies. The home run

0:24:43.840 --> 0:24:46.520
<v Speaker 1>total is twenty three and a half. Welsh, you like

0:24:46.600 --> 0:24:48.960
<v Speaker 1>the power of this young man. I assume this is

0:24:49.000 --> 0:24:49.760
<v Speaker 1>an over for you.

0:24:50.040 --> 0:24:52.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is It's always an over for for me.

0:24:53.080 --> 0:24:56.159
<v Speaker 1>Is it the over that's there for the unders? Uh?

0:24:56.240 --> 0:24:58.480
<v Speaker 3>Huh exactly. I can't bet too many unders here. Yeah,

0:24:58.520 --> 0:25:01.240
<v Speaker 3>I mean this one is not as sexy of any

0:25:01.280 --> 0:25:03.480
<v Speaker 3>of them. And this one falls along the lines of

0:25:03.520 --> 0:25:05.200
<v Speaker 3>that tough question I kind of had at the top

0:25:05.240 --> 0:25:07.520
<v Speaker 3>of like, if you're doing a season long bet at

0:25:07.640 --> 0:25:09.840
<v Speaker 3>minus money, you know what's the play. I know a

0:25:09.880 --> 0:25:12.199
<v Speaker 3>lot of people have fun and like to pair a

0:25:12.240 --> 0:25:14.680
<v Speaker 3>couple of these together. I had one of those season

0:25:14.760 --> 0:25:16.960
<v Speaker 3>long bet. I'm probably going a couple units. I just

0:25:17.160 --> 0:25:20.880
<v Speaker 3>really like the Michael Tolian numbers right now. He hit

0:25:20.920 --> 0:25:23.879
<v Speaker 3>twenty five in twenty twenty four in just one hundred

0:25:23.880 --> 0:25:26.679
<v Speaker 3>and sixteen games while hitting just too eighteen. And I

0:25:26.720 --> 0:25:28.480
<v Speaker 3>know that's definitely gonna be like a focal point of

0:25:28.480 --> 0:25:31.440
<v Speaker 3>what everybody's talking about. I love and again, if you've

0:25:31.440 --> 0:25:33.720
<v Speaker 3>heard like me talking in videos, I've talked about the

0:25:33.800 --> 0:25:36.159
<v Speaker 3>value of him. I love the underlying bat profile. He

0:25:36.240 --> 0:25:38.960
<v Speaker 3>had almost eighteen percent barrel rate. That's elite of elite,

0:25:39.000 --> 0:25:42.040
<v Speaker 3>over fifty percent hard hit rate. I mean again, elite

0:25:42.080 --> 0:25:45.679
<v Speaker 3>of elite. He also had expected batting average close to

0:25:45.960 --> 0:25:49.359
<v Speaker 3>twenty five points higher than his actual batting average of

0:25:49.400 --> 0:25:51.760
<v Speaker 3>two forty four. And that's a big thing for me.

0:25:51.840 --> 0:25:55.560
<v Speaker 3>If Michael Tolia is hitting in the two forties, he's

0:25:55.600 --> 0:25:58.560
<v Speaker 3>smashing this. He's not getting the twenty five, he's not

0:25:58.600 --> 0:26:01.880
<v Speaker 3>getting the thirties, probably getting thirty five. He finished last

0:26:01.880 --> 0:26:04.040
<v Speaker 3>season in the second half of the season with a

0:26:04.040 --> 0:26:06.800
<v Speaker 3>two thirty five average. Now you do have to watch

0:26:07.080 --> 0:26:10.119
<v Speaker 3>like a lot of Colorado. Obviously, the home ballpark is

0:26:10.160 --> 0:26:12.560
<v Speaker 3>an advantage, and they can have split issues. There's a

0:26:12.560 --> 0:26:14.320
<v Speaker 3>little bit of a split issue. He hit two thirty

0:26:14.359 --> 0:26:16.119
<v Speaker 3>five at home last year. He only hit two o

0:26:16.200 --> 0:26:18.760
<v Speaker 3>two on the road. But check this out. Despite hitting

0:26:18.760 --> 0:26:20.920
<v Speaker 3>two O two on the road, seventeen of his twenty

0:26:20.920 --> 0:26:23.639
<v Speaker 3>five homers came on the road, So think about progression

0:26:23.760 --> 0:26:28.040
<v Speaker 3>coming into this year. Now, projections they tell some different stories.

0:26:28.160 --> 0:26:31.639
<v Speaker 3>If you look at like Steamer, ATC New Oopsie, they

0:26:31.640 --> 0:26:33.280
<v Speaker 3>all have them at twenty five. So they've got him

0:26:33.320 --> 0:26:36.840
<v Speaker 3>hitting this one Steamer and at twenty four. I'm sorry,

0:26:36.880 --> 0:26:39.639
<v Speaker 3>Steamer and ATC have him at twenty five. The bat

0:26:39.880 --> 0:26:42.160
<v Speaker 3>happens to be the one that is lower. The bat

0:26:42.160 --> 0:26:43.520
<v Speaker 3>and the bat X have him at like twenty two

0:26:43.600 --> 0:26:45.439
<v Speaker 3>and twenty one, and I think it's around like one

0:26:45.520 --> 0:26:49.400
<v Speaker 3>hundred and thirty games. But you talk about the offensive

0:26:49.440 --> 0:26:52.080
<v Speaker 3>profile with that barrel and hard hit, a higher expected

0:26:52.119 --> 0:26:56.760
<v Speaker 3>batting average, the home ballpark factors, and overall progression. I

0:26:56.960 --> 0:27:00.360
<v Speaker 3>really like this number. Maybe it's a little too thin

0:27:00.640 --> 0:27:03.679
<v Speaker 3>as far as projections are going, but I think the

0:27:03.680 --> 0:27:05.320
<v Speaker 3>games can come up a little bit. And I also

0:27:05.359 --> 0:27:07.359
<v Speaker 3>think he's going to overplay the homers. This is what

0:27:07.400 --> 0:27:09.960
<v Speaker 3>he is built for. And that hitting profile tells you

0:27:10.000 --> 0:27:12.400
<v Speaker 3>as well. So twenty three and a half I hit.

0:27:13.080 --> 0:27:15.720
<v Speaker 3>I saw it jumped up on DraftKings before the show

0:27:15.880 --> 0:27:19.520
<v Speaker 3>at twenty four point five with plus money, So that's

0:27:19.520 --> 0:27:22.440
<v Speaker 3>something to pay attention to. And yeah, as Mayer said,

0:27:23.080 --> 0:27:24.879
<v Speaker 3>one of the biggest worries is the strikeout rate, and

0:27:24.920 --> 0:27:26.800
<v Speaker 3>that's the thing that holds him back. I mean, a

0:27:26.840 --> 0:27:29.920
<v Speaker 3>thirty plus percent strikeout rate is a concern, but that's

0:27:29.920 --> 0:27:32.560
<v Speaker 3>why I'm betting on the hitting profile. Also the ballpark.

0:27:32.600 --> 0:27:34.040
<v Speaker 3>You know, maybe this would be different. If this is

0:27:34.080 --> 0:27:36.480
<v Speaker 3>like Seattle, I might not be playing this, but the

0:27:36.480 --> 0:27:39.760
<v Speaker 3>home ballpark just plays very well in favor. I really

0:27:39.800 --> 0:27:41.960
<v Speaker 3>like this on Michael Tolia now, and this is a

0:27:41.960 --> 0:27:45.399
<v Speaker 3>thirty five plus home run bat when things are going okay,

0:27:45.440 --> 0:27:48.240
<v Speaker 3>that you're getting ten homers less. So I'm in on

0:27:48.280 --> 0:27:50.760
<v Speaker 3>Michael Tollia season long home run total twenty three and

0:27:50.800 --> 0:27:52.440
<v Speaker 3>a half. I'll also play twenty four and a half

0:27:52.480 --> 0:27:53.200
<v Speaker 3>at plus money.

0:27:53.600 --> 0:27:55.359
<v Speaker 1>All Right, Derek Cardy, before we let you go, I

0:27:55.359 --> 0:27:57.280
<v Speaker 1>got a question for you, because this is my approach

0:27:57.560 --> 0:27:59.520
<v Speaker 1>and I want to run it by you. For twenty

0:27:59.520 --> 0:28:03.840
<v Speaker 1>twenty five, I'm betting Showy Otani to win National League MVP,

0:28:04.080 --> 0:28:07.520
<v Speaker 1>just because well it's clearly an easy path. And then

0:28:08.240 --> 0:28:11.439
<v Speaker 1>I am going to pair it in a little tiny,

0:28:11.600 --> 0:28:15.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, duo parlay with different folks from the America League.

0:28:15.119 --> 0:28:17.560
<v Speaker 1>I got one with Bobby Witt. I've got one with

0:28:17.640 --> 0:28:20.359
<v Speaker 1>Aaron Judge just gonna go through some lists. What do

0:28:20.359 --> 0:28:22.280
<v Speaker 1>you think about that approach this year of just kind

0:28:22.280 --> 0:28:25.639
<v Speaker 1>of bowing down and giving up on National League MVP

0:28:25.800 --> 0:28:30.160
<v Speaker 1>and saying, Okay, it's Otani. It's very difficult to beat Otani,

0:28:30.359 --> 0:28:33.199
<v Speaker 1>especially now he's gonna be pitching again, and then just

0:28:33.200 --> 0:28:36.440
<v Speaker 1>saying instead of just betting straight out one of those

0:28:36.440 --> 0:28:39.200
<v Speaker 1>guys in the America League, just constantly pairing him with

0:28:39.280 --> 0:28:42.080
<v Speaker 1>Otani to get better odds.

0:28:42.920 --> 0:28:46.520
<v Speaker 2>I see the appeal of it, and I see being like, Okay,

0:28:46.600 --> 0:28:52.160
<v Speaker 2>like obviously Otani personally, I don't think the odds you're

0:28:52.200 --> 0:28:55.040
<v Speaker 2>going to be offered on that are gonna be plus

0:28:55.120 --> 0:28:57.920
<v Speaker 2>ev but I could be wrong. I mean, I think

0:28:57.920 --> 0:29:01.120
<v Speaker 2>the books realize, like think Gotan is going to be

0:29:01.120 --> 0:29:03.960
<v Speaker 2>the MVP. He's probably gonna be the MVP. I don't

0:29:04.000 --> 0:29:06.520
<v Speaker 2>think they're giving you. I don't think they're giving you

0:29:06.560 --> 0:29:08.520
<v Speaker 2>the number you need well.

0:29:08.520 --> 0:29:11.320
<v Speaker 1>Plus forty five. If I pair them with Bobby Witt

0:29:11.400 --> 0:29:13.040
<v Speaker 1>right now at this plus two seventy five, I get

0:29:13.040 --> 0:29:15.240
<v Speaker 1>plus eight hundred. Those are the two top guys of

0:29:15.280 --> 0:29:18.880
<v Speaker 1>the board. That's a big jump on your guys. Pretty yeah,

0:29:18.960 --> 0:29:19.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean.

0:29:19.240 --> 0:29:20.640
<v Speaker 4>I get it, Like they're both great.

0:29:20.720 --> 0:29:24.760
<v Speaker 2>It could easily happen, But to nail both MVPs like that,

0:29:25.080 --> 0:29:27.840
<v Speaker 2>I would want more than plus eight hundred personally.

0:29:28.360 --> 0:29:30.760
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's fair enough. What would that number be?

0:29:31.840 --> 0:29:33.040
<v Speaker 4>One injury in your dead like?

0:29:33.120 --> 0:29:33.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:29:33.320 --> 0:29:35.640
<v Speaker 3>Well, and also o Tany's going to pitch more this year,

0:29:35.640 --> 0:29:37.120
<v Speaker 3>so that puts a little bit more of a strain

0:29:37.200 --> 0:29:40.160
<v Speaker 3>on potential misstime. If something were to go wrong, what

0:29:40.200 --> 0:29:42.640
<v Speaker 3>would you want like twelve to one, thirteen to one

0:29:43.040 --> 0:29:44.440
<v Speaker 3>if you were doing something like that, do you think

0:29:44.480 --> 0:29:45.240
<v Speaker 3>that's a better return.

0:29:45.560 --> 0:29:47.200
<v Speaker 4>I'd want to run the math on it, but yeah,

0:29:47.320 --> 0:29:47.920
<v Speaker 4>i'd want.

0:29:47.760 --> 0:29:49.040
<v Speaker 3>Something to do something like that.

0:29:49.280 --> 0:29:50.960
<v Speaker 1>I got one for you if you didn't like that,

0:29:51.000 --> 0:29:53.880
<v Speaker 1>Bobby wit one about Jose Ramires with Otani plus five

0:29:53.920 --> 0:29:55.960
<v Speaker 1>thousand and five thirty five. How about that?

0:29:56.400 --> 0:29:58.960
<v Speaker 3>Now you're just having fun.

0:29:59.000 --> 0:30:01.720
<v Speaker 1>Hey, Matt, You know, look, I'm the big dog when

0:30:01.720 --> 0:30:03.800
<v Speaker 1>it comes to these futures, you know it, Welsh And

0:30:04.520 --> 0:30:06.040
<v Speaker 1>at a certain point I think we have to look

0:30:06.080 --> 0:30:09.000
<v Speaker 1>and just be reasonable with ourselves and realize that when

0:30:09.000 --> 0:30:11.480
<v Speaker 1>Otani's on the field, he is the greatest player that

0:30:11.560 --> 0:30:13.760
<v Speaker 1>any of us have ever seen, will ever seen, probably

0:30:13.800 --> 0:30:16.200
<v Speaker 1>has ever played in terms of talent and skill overall,

0:30:16.640 --> 0:30:19.960
<v Speaker 1>and if he's pitching again, it's damn near impossible to

0:30:20.000 --> 0:30:22.400
<v Speaker 1>beat him for this award. And look, it's plus money

0:30:22.480 --> 0:30:24.640
<v Speaker 1>right now. It's not going to get better, most likely

0:30:24.720 --> 0:30:27.600
<v Speaker 1>barring an injury. Derek Cardy, I wish you a very healthy,

0:30:28.160 --> 0:30:30.520
<v Speaker 1>entire Major League Baseball season, not just for you, but

0:30:30.520 --> 0:30:32.280
<v Speaker 1>for all of your teams as well. We appreciate you

0:30:32.320 --> 0:30:34.640
<v Speaker 1>hanging out with us, obviously. Check out all this amazing

0:30:34.640 --> 0:30:37.040
<v Speaker 1>work the bat the projections, all the incredible stuff that

0:30:37.040 --> 0:30:41.160
<v Speaker 1>Derek does, ESPN, Fantasy roto, grinders, analytics, you name it.

0:30:43.080 --> 0:30:45.360
<v Speaker 1>That'll do it for me. Joey P. We'll see you

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