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Speaker 1: I'm very excited for baseball season and watching some spring

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Speaker 1: at Joe Pisapo there. Because I have a lot of

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Speaker 1: I understand the White Sox are bad, and I love

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure this is the first bet that everybody

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Speaker 3: seventy three or more projected innings, So again, that is

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Speaker 3: I love this, I love the team context, the division. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: He had one hundred and forty six innings last season

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Speaker 4: A little bit different.

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Speaker 3: We're talking close to ten to one right now on

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Speaker 3: this bet. So this is my absolute favorite of any

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Speaker 1: CARDI I'd be very curious at what you.

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Speaker 2: I like it for basically the reason that that you said,

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Speaker 2: using ATC's basically aggregate innings projections. We don't know which

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Speaker 4: We're going to play conservative.

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Speaker 2: We don't know if Crochet is one of the guys

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and right now plus eight point fifty in some

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Speaker 1: You throw a ten bucks, you can win a couple grand.

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Speaker 1: I got real close on two NFL ones last year,

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Speaker 1: Let's also go back to Cardi here for another one

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Speaker 1: the show. Here, would you keep both Gunner and Trey

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Speaker 1: I'm keeping Gunner. But what are your thoughts here.

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Speaker 2: You're worried about Gunner's health, You're worried about Turner a

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Speaker 1: Next question here, don't give him the stick? Has one

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Speaker 1: you would like to get our opinion about rp's and

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Speaker 1: a twelve team headhead categories league generally like to wait

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Speaker 1: But I don't want to.

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Speaker 3: Be pushed if I have to to be drafting closers

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Speaker 1: Got a Crochet question here, since we're just talking about him,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about this. Drafting Crochet at twenty two early

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Speaker 1: It's not crazy to me, but he is going at

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Speaker 1: think it would pay to be more aggressive on Crochet

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Speaker 2: I mean, like we said before with with Welsh's bet,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's tough.

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Speaker 3: It's tough actually comparing against the guy who's going consensus four.

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Speaker 3: I have Garrett Crochet at four in my ranks, but

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Speaker 3: upside potential down there's a downside to Gare Crochet pitching

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Speaker 3: But I probably am not taking him at twenty to

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Speaker 1: Let's get back to some of the wagers. Hero's go

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Speaker 1: back to Derek speaking of Logan Gilbert. Logan Gilbert to

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Speaker 1: we're asking for. Let's talk about Logan Gilbert, Derek and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like Logan Gilbert's lead to the league of wins

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Speaker 2: priced more at like ten to one.

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Speaker 4: The talent level is elite, but without like the.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're giving me a good number. I'll take it.

436
00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:54,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it certainly does look like a good number. And

437
00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,200
Speaker 1: look with his numbers from last year, they were pretty spectacular.

438
00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:02,280
Speaker 1: Logan Gilbert was an app rock star stud in fantasy

439
00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,040
Speaker 1: last year and in reality. And look at the intensity

440
00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,479
Speaker 1: on the face that was the same face that Welsh

441
00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,960
Speaker 1: made every Logan Gilbert Stark where he just could not

442
00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:11,439
Speaker 1: believe how good Logan Gilbert was.

443
00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, the biggest egg on my face too is last year.

444
00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,200
Speaker 3: I mean I remember me and you know we're talking

445
00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,120
Speaker 3: about it's like if you know, if you're gonna rely

446
00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,720
Speaker 3: on this splitter, it was like you want the fastball

447
00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:22,840
Speaker 3: to be this dominant fastball, and it's just like he

448
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,280
Speaker 3: just keeps making it happen and those are the questions

449
00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,120
Speaker 3: and he's a workhorse. I'd say I made this bet

450
00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,159
Speaker 3: like I got this fo a little bit early from

451
00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,159
Speaker 3: Cardi for this show, and I one hundred percent made

452
00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,520
Speaker 3: this bet because also you're just you make the season

453
00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,879
Speaker 3: long bets, you know, depending what you know world you're in,

454
00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,000
Speaker 3: if you're looking to have some fun season long bets.

455
00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,080
Speaker 3: I'm not sure there's one that's more fun than this.

456
00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,440
Speaker 3: Thirty five to one, a guy that's gonna push two

457
00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,800
Speaker 3: hundred innings. You can play to the wins. You're hoping

458
00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:51,720
Speaker 3: the offense is going to pick up. And I think

459
00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,439
Speaker 3: I just think there's a great potential return on this,

460
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,280
Speaker 3: Like if there's gonna if you're gonna make a list

461
00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,320
Speaker 3: of four or five guys that are going to lead

462
00:20:58,320 --> 00:20:59,959
Speaker 3: the league and wins, I think Gilbert has to be

463
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,000
Speaker 3: up there. And there's a reason why he's so lauded

464
00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,720
Speaker 3: in fantasy as well this year. So I think this

465
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,479
Speaker 3: is a great, great pick. This is I mean, if

466
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Speaker 3: I'm again putting your investment in pitching season long props

467
00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,440
Speaker 3: is like the scariest thing. Crochet and Gilbert I think

468
00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:16,879
Speaker 3: are two really really fun ones.

469
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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get to our first super chat here of

470
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Speaker 1: the day. Taylor only can keep two? Who would you keep?

471
00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:27,480
Speaker 1: Strider Glass Now McClanahan, franber Valdez, Sandy al Contra de

472
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,640
Speaker 1: gram or Michael King can keep in hold like in Dynasty.

473
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,240
Speaker 1: So it's a long time here for one of these.

474
00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,320
Speaker 1: So only can keep two of these guys? Now, look,

475
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Speaker 1: you're gonna miss Strider for most of this season, Glass

476
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Speaker 1: now Never.

477
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,960
Speaker 3: No, Stryder's only gonna miss April. He should be back

478
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:42,359
Speaker 3: in May.

479
00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 1: We'll say late May. Let's be good part of the sea.

480
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,359
Speaker 1: Yeah sure, Glass now Never gives you one hundred and

481
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Speaker 1: fifty innings. McLanahan just had his arm remade, so it's

482
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Speaker 1: santy al contra. Those are the two most intriguing ones

483
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 1: to me on this list now that they've just been

484
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Speaker 1: reborn with the new arms. So well, you can only

485
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,680
Speaker 1: keep two who are the two year keeping.

486
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 3: The context of how this is being asked, if this

487
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,360
Speaker 3: was like, you can only have two keepers and that's

488
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Speaker 3: all you're keeping, then my answer would probably lean like

489
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Speaker 3: a little bit more towards like a redraft standpoint. So

490
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Speaker 3: then I might be like, well, you know, I might

491
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 3: push King into gram but obviously I'm assuming this is

492
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Speaker 3: a bigger keeper standpoint. I'm gonna go Michael King and

493
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Speaker 3: Strider be just because like, I know you're gonna miss

494
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Speaker 3: a month. I don't want to play against what you

495
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,200
Speaker 3: can win now. But like Strider could be the number

496
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,879
Speaker 3: one pitcher in baseball, he's gonna miss a month. If

497
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Speaker 3: he gets back to where he was, you have a

498
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Speaker 3: huge showing through the back of the year and you

499
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Speaker 3: get to keep him next year. And Michael King, I think,

500
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,160
Speaker 3: is in a great spot if you wanted to knock

501
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,960
Speaker 3: Michael King off for Shane McClanahan. I also think McClanahan

502
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 3: is one of those. But Strider McClanahan puts you in

503
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 3: a weird spot where maybe you're a little bit behind early.

504
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 3: But I do think like long, long term, if this

505
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 3: was dynasty, pure dynasty, because he says hold like a dynasty.

506
00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no con tractors holding. Got Look, Grom's too

507
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 1: old to be captain. He hasn't thrown one hundred and

508
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 1: in five years. Like, I'm not not coming close to that. Derek,

509
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 1: Where do you land on this one? We've got some

510
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 1: different opinions. I'm going with the two guys who have

511
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 1: just been fixed. One of us just want to Cy

512
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 1: young two years ago, and I think people forget that

513
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 1: Sandi al Contra is that good and he's probably gonna

514
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 1: be on his way out of Miami sooner than later

515
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 1: to a contending team. Where do you land on this?

516
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 1: This is tough. There's a lot of talent here.

517
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Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of talent to pick from.

518
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 2: I think you have to do Strider, I mean not

519
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,399
Speaker 2: going to miss a ton of time this year could

520
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 2: I mean before last year he was being drafted rightfully,

521
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,639
Speaker 2: so as as the top pitcher in fantasy by like

522
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,679
Speaker 2: a huge margin, like nobody even touched him projection wise,

523
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 2: I think you have to take him, especially if this

524
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,160
Speaker 2: is long term, and then if it's like a dynasty

525
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 2: kind of thing, just give him.

526
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Speaker 4: A clean and I'll take the risks.

527
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 1: It's fine. Yeah, all right, here's a fun one, and

528
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 1: I mean fun in air quotes Chris Derek Joe. If

529
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:55,959
Speaker 1: you had to take a flyer on one of these

530
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 1: old farts, he called them aging legends. I'm gonna call

531
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 1: them old farts. Who who you got, Verlander or Scherzer, Cardi,

532
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 1: Who are you taking a shot on?

533
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 2: I don't mind taking a shot on either where they're

534
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 2: being drafted late. Give me Verlander, but it's not a

535
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 2: strong Give me Verlander other one.

536
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 1: Welch, how about you? Yeah?

537
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 3: Then Cardi said it really well, because it's like both

538
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 3: of them are just free. They're free ninety nine. I'll

539
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 3: probably go with you know, justin Fartlander there if you're

540
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,400
Speaker 3: looking for the old farts, just because of the ballpark factor.

541
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 3: I think that's really beneficial. So I'll probably go with

542
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 3: Verlander here, but suresher did look pretty good.

543
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 1: All right, We're going to continue to take questions the

544
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 1: rest of the day too. I want to get to

545
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 1: Welsh's other bet here real fast, so let's go back

546
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 1: to Michael tolia of the Colorado Rockies. The home run

547
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 1: total is twenty three and a half. Welsh, you like

548
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 1: the power of this young man. I assume this is

549
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 1: an over for you.

550
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is It's always an over for for me.

551
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,159
Speaker 1: Is it the over that's there for the unders? Uh?

552
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 3: Huh exactly. I can't bet too many unders here. Yeah,

553
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 3: I mean this one is not as sexy of any

554
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 3: of them. And this one falls along the lines of

555
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 3: that tough question I kind of had at the top

556
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 3: of like, if you're doing a season long bet at

557
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 3: minus money, you know what's the play. I know a

558
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,199
Speaker 3: lot of people have fun and like to pair a

559
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 3: couple of these together. I had one of those season

560
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 3: long bet. I'm probably going a couple units. I just

561
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,880
Speaker 3: really like the Michael Tolian numbers right now. He hit

562
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 3: twenty five in twenty twenty four in just one hundred

563
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,679
Speaker 3: and sixteen games while hitting just too eighteen. And I

564
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 3: know that's definitely gonna be like a focal point of

565
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 3: what everybody's talking about. I love and again, if you've

566
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 3: heard like me talking in videos, I've talked about the

567
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,159
Speaker 3: value of him. I love the underlying bat profile. He

568
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 3: had almost eighteen percent barrel rate. That's elite of elite,

569
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 3: over fifty percent hard hit rate. I mean again, elite

570
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,679
Speaker 3: of elite. He also had expected batting average close to

571
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 3: twenty five points higher than his actual batting average of

572
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 3: two forty four. And that's a big thing for me.

573
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 3: If Michael Tolia is hitting in the two forties, he's

574
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 3: smashing this. He's not getting the twenty five, he's not

575
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,880
Speaker 3: getting the thirties, probably getting thirty five. He finished last

576
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 3: season in the second half of the season with a

577
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 3: two thirty five average. Now you do have to watch

578
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 3: like a lot of Colorado. Obviously, the home ballpark is

579
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 3: an advantage, and they can have split issues. There's a

580
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 3: little bit of a split issue. He hit two thirty

581
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 3: five at home last year. He only hit two o

582
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 3: two on the road. But check this out. Despite hitting

583
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 3: two O two on the road, seventeen of his twenty

584
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 3: five homers came on the road, So think about progression

585
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 3: coming into this year. Now, projections they tell some different stories.

586
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 3: If you look at like Steamer, ATC New Oopsie, they

587
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 3: all have them at twenty five. So they've got him

588
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 3: hitting this one Steamer and at twenty four. I'm sorry,

589
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 3: Steamer and ATC have him at twenty five. The bat

590
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 3: happens to be the one that is lower. The bat

591
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 3: and the bat X have him at like twenty two

592
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 3: and twenty one, and I think it's around like one

593
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 3: hundred and thirty games. But you talk about the offensive

594
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 3: profile with that barrel and hard hit, a higher expected

595
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 3: batting average, the home ballpark factors, and overall progression. I

596
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,360
Speaker 3: really like this number. Maybe it's a little too thin

597
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 3: as far as projections are going, but I think the

598
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 3: games can come up a little bit. And I also

599
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 3: think he's going to overplay the homers. This is what

600
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 3: he is built for. And that hitting profile tells you

601
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,400
Speaker 3: as well. So twenty three and a half I hit.

602
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 3: I saw it jumped up on DraftKings before the show

603
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 3: at twenty four point five with plus money, So that's

604
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 3: something to pay attention to. And yeah, as Mayer said,

605
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 3: one of the biggest worries is the strikeout rate, and

606
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 3: that's the thing that holds him back. I mean, a

607
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 3: thirty plus percent strikeout rate is a concern, but that's

608
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 3: why I'm betting on the hitting profile. Also the ballpark.

609
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 3: You know, maybe this would be different. If this is

610
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 3: like Seattle, I might not be playing this, but the

611
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 3: home ballpark just plays very well in favor. I really

612
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 3: like this on Michael Tolia now, and this is a

613
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 3: thirty five plus home run bat when things are going okay,

614
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 3: that you're getting ten homers less. So I'm in on

615
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 3: Michael Tollia season long home run total twenty three and

616
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 3: a half. I'll also play twenty four and a half

617
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 3: at plus money.

618
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 1: All Right, Derek Cardy, before we let you go, I

619
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 1: got a question for you, because this is my approach

620
00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: and I want to run it by you. For twenty

621
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: twenty five, I'm betting Showy Otani to win National League MVP,

622
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: just because well it's clearly an easy path. And then

623
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 1: I am going to pair it in a little tiny,

624
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 1: you know, duo parlay with different folks from the America League.

625
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 1: I got one with Bobby Witt. I've got one with

626
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 1: Aaron Judge just gonna go through some lists. What do

627
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: you think about that approach this year of just kind

628
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 1: of bowing down and giving up on National League MVP

629
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 1: and saying, Okay, it's Otani. It's very difficult to beat Otani,

630
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,199
Speaker 1: especially now he's gonna be pitching again, and then just

631
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 1: saying instead of just betting straight out one of those

632
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: guys in the America League, just constantly pairing him with

633
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: Otani to get better odds.

634
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 2: I see the appeal of it, and I see being like, Okay,

635
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 2: like obviously Otani personally, I don't think the odds you're

636
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 2: going to be offered on that are gonna be plus

637
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 2: ev but I could be wrong. I mean, I think

638
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 2: the books realize, like think Gotan is going to be

639
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 2: the MVP. He's probably gonna be the MVP. I don't

640
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 2: think they're giving you. I don't think they're giving you

641
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 2: the number you need well.

642
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: Plus forty five. If I pair them with Bobby Witt

643
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: right now at this plus two seventy five, I get

644
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: plus eight hundred. Those are the two top guys of

645
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: the board. That's a big jump on your guys. Pretty yeah,

646
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: I mean.

647
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 4: I get it, Like they're both great.

648
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 2: It could easily happen, But to nail both MVPs like that,

649
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 2: I would want more than plus eight hundred personally.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's fair enough. What would that number be?

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Speaker 4: One injury in your dead like?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Well, and also o Tany's going to pitch more this year,

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Speaker 3: so that puts a little bit more of a strain

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Speaker 3: on potential misstime. If something were to go wrong, what

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Speaker 3: would you want like twelve to one, thirteen to one

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Speaker 3: if you were doing something like that, do you think

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Speaker 3: that's a better return.

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Speaker 4: I'd want to run the math on it, but yeah,

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Speaker 4: i'd want.

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Speaker 3: Something to do something like that.

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Speaker 1: I got one for you if you didn't like that,

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Speaker 1: Bobby wit one about Jose Ramires with Otani plus five

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Speaker 1: thousand and five thirty five. How about that?

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Speaker 3: Now you're just having fun.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Matt, You know, look, I'm the big dog when

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Speaker 1: it comes to these futures, you know it, Welsh And

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Speaker 1: at a certain point I think we have to look

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Speaker 1: and just be reasonable with ourselves and realize that when

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Speaker 1: Otani's on the field, he is the greatest player that

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Speaker 1: any of us have ever seen, will ever seen, probably

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Speaker 1: has ever played in terms of talent and skill overall,

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Speaker 1: and if he's pitching again, it's damn near impossible to

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Speaker 1: beat him for this award. And look, it's plus money

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Speaker 1: right now. It's not going to get better, most likely

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Speaker 1: barring an injury. Derek Cardy, I wish you a very healthy,

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Speaker 1: entire Major League Baseball season, not just for you, but

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Speaker 1: for all of your teams as well. We appreciate you

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Speaker 1: hanging out with us, obviously. Check out all this amazing

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Speaker 1: work the bat the projections, all the incredible stuff that

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Speaker 1: Derek does, ESPN, Fantasy roto, grinders, analytics, you name it.

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Speaker 1: That'll do it for me. Joey P. We'll see you

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