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Speaker 1: one of the most notorious groups. Arguably, if it wasn't
Speaker 1: for them, they might not be a CNN. That definitely
Speaker 1: wouldn't be a Nori that I was inspired by being
Speaker 1: grimy from them. They came. They represented queens and they
Speaker 1: represented Brooklyn too. They represented b QE. Not just queens.
Speaker 1: They came. They They've worked with what would run dmy
Speaker 1: Jam Master Jay, they worked with def Jam. They toward
Speaker 1: the world. They still touring the world. Every time I
Speaker 1: speak to one of them, niggas they in Russia or
Speaker 1: Dog or Dog. One time I'm sitting there having drinks
Speaker 1: with the nigga, the nigga smoke a whole sentence in Russian.
Speaker 1: I swear to God, I swear what is it? Um uh?
Speaker 1: You say? Thank you. These guys are legends. We started
Speaker 1: this show to support all legends. They are, they are from,
Speaker 1: they are locally, they are my family personally, and I
Speaker 1: am glad and proud to introduce an honor tonight. The
Speaker 1: motherfucking legendary on made it something. Now, with that being said,
Speaker 1: how did you guys even meet jam Master Jack? How
Speaker 1: did that happen? Because because that's who put you guys on, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we met Jake. It's the craziest shot. How we met Jake.
Speaker 1: Let's get to it. So we had the Greek Fest.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that Queen's you haven't to
Speaker 1: the Greek Fest? Queen about the freak Fest? Jones, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: this is like, this is like eighty nine, Um, what
Speaker 1: record was out? Do? Tell me how you want that
Speaker 1: record was playing? So check this out. We were on
Speaker 1: the highway going home from Jones Beach and it's a
Speaker 1: trapping Jones bad people. So the cars is moving like
Speaker 1: I don't even move it like it's like it's like
Speaker 1: everybody got Hot nine the seven on, everybody playing however
Speaker 1: you want it sold? So Rocky Beach, every car planing
Speaker 1: and ship. So we look next to the Nick the
Speaker 1: car next sus it's jam Massive. Ja wasn't the car
Speaker 1: of the band, the MPV. He had the big black
Speaker 1: ill vent with the TV. Fantastic with the TV and
Speaker 1: okay just take the just right next to smoking smoking weed,
Speaker 1: were like, yo, could we smoke with you? Come in,
Speaker 1: come in the event. So we got an events to
Speaker 1: smoking with Jake. We start freestyle. Wait wait did y'allknew
Speaker 1: that I was jam Master Jake Okay questioned, yeah, Yo,
Speaker 1: this is but me. I'm thinking I'm thinking a little
Speaker 1: with his bro my man just think about weed, but
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about a record deal. Like my mind is
Speaker 1: strictly on yok how could I get on? This is
Speaker 1: my chance snicking in the traffic jam. He ain't going nowhere.
Speaker 1: He ain't going now So my old, my old thing
Speaker 1: was away that you didn't need necessary I look there,
Speaker 1: get out there. It was just you wasn't in the
Speaker 1: group yet. Oh wow, this is me sun seen big. Yes,
Speaker 1: he wasn't in the group yet. We had a single
Speaker 1: profile called are we doing like this? That profile record? Well,
Speaker 1: you know I'm about to say that was prob about
Speaker 1: say it wasn't Ice Cuble on profile, but that was
Speaker 1: probably yeah, okay, so continue being so sick? Was it
Speaker 1: even in the group at the time, he was just
Speaker 1: swing Brooklyn, probably running with Deceps so wilding out some women.
Speaker 1: So from that conversation y'all got into you got in
Speaker 1: the van, y'all smoked with him, and you did you freestyle?
Speaker 1: How did how did it become free style form? You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. We was freestyle and show we
Speaker 1: had We was there for like at Lisa Hour with
Speaker 1: him before the traffics, the traffick to him from saying,
Speaker 1: smoking with him, chilling and we just vide him with
Speaker 1: him from Queency from Queen's. It was it was more
Speaker 1: than hip hop, like it was just like Yo, these
Speaker 1: little niggas is cool. Like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I kick out out my vent So we was just
Speaker 1: rocking with him. Gave me his number. We just kept calling,
Speaker 1: kept bugging that nigga. Did you think that Did you
Speaker 1: think that was gonna be real? All you thought that?
Speaker 1: Like the number he gonna gave you? It was like nothing,
Speaker 1: I know, it was real. It was a real nigger.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That he wouldn't give me,
Speaker 1: you know it was like, he ain't gonna give you
Speaker 1: no fake but it's a real nigga, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like like we run dmc J was the
Speaker 1: streets for Duc Like he was the st He's still
Speaker 1: in the street, you know what I'm saying. Ice from
Speaker 1: the second got the magic but so so I right,
Speaker 1: so from there, yea y'all speaking, And then what was
Speaker 1: the first because y'all had to go to the studio?
Speaker 1: Sess what was the first studio session? Like, well, J
Speaker 1: just got his label. He just got the Jam J
Speaker 1: label de Jam So this is like a year later,
Speaker 1: and um, he was like, go go to go to
Speaker 1: the studio. Y'all just keep working. So about Tom, he
Speaker 1: was working putting the demos together for Jay. He was
Speaker 1: on we're running them. So one day, one day sends
Speaker 1: come to the studio and we text. See that's one
Speaker 1: one day they didn't come to the studio. So sick.
Speaker 1: So Tropp, whose name was Tropic no way, I think
Speaker 1: I knew everything about it. Something murder and it was
Speaker 1: a tropical because I had all the flavors there. You're
Speaker 1: way too going to score decents and one wild no
Speaker 1: trop won't say say that I know it's some real
Speaker 1: niggas gonna. Tropic does sound wayper than tropical to a nigga,
Speaker 1: Like you know what, I'm gon name tropic a bit
Speaker 1: with that baby, My name tropical a pine tree. So
Speaker 1: you guys get a studio second, Yeah, when is the
Speaker 1: moment you say this ship is rare? This is what happened.
Speaker 1: So we we we We did like twenty demos. Like
Speaker 1: to Jay like, he's like getting the studio work, So
Speaker 1: we put like twenty demos. So seeing Big Dance, they
Speaker 1: come to the studio on the day they were doing
Speaker 1: the jokes or whatever whatever, they can't make it. So
Speaker 1: so Stick came to the studio. We did a record
Speaker 1: called Sticking Move and we was wilding out with our
Speaker 1: voices like acting grin. It was. It was just the
Speaker 1: time and for for what we was doing at that time.
Speaker 1: And that record was nothing like the whole demo we
Speaker 1: did for Ja was just that one record was just
Speaker 1: stand out. So when I sent the records at Ja,
Speaker 1: he was like, Yo, what's this ship? Who is this singer?
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's my cousin. Like, Yo, that nigga gotta
Speaker 1: be in the Google. I'm like, but it's already three niggas.
Speaker 1: They were like, yo, hen in the group. That ain't
Speaker 1: no Google. And that's how Stick got in the group
Speaker 1: because let me let me because let me just say,
Speaker 1: because let me let me just be clear, y'all changed
Speaker 1: the sound of music. Like at the end of the
Speaker 1: day people were at that time. I remember being a
Speaker 1: kid in Queens and I remember it being about like
Speaker 1: being smooth and being like and you guys came and
Speaker 1: you guys had fun, but you guys was wild as fun.
Speaker 1: And so how it was whose idea was it to
Speaker 1: be like super different than everything else that was going on?
Speaker 1: Me for John Jail and how did that? How did that?
Speaker 1: It was moved there? He said, I want ten of
Speaker 1: those different different So we changed the whole vibe with
Speaker 1: that one record with the Mad City they might share
Speaker 1: their gait ball and adopted the mad Face. But at
Speaker 1: the time he had leads in New School, you had
Speaker 1: Dos Effects coming out. It's like our whole energy was
Speaker 1: the fucking destroy Dos Effects. That was our whole energy.
Speaker 1: Like like when I was like the dress dead of
Speaker 1: they did like I'm talking about them niggas. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying that she was like no beef ship,
Speaker 1: but just slay creative. You gotta be more, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like, that's how it was. They came
Speaker 1: out to sewer, then you got coming out. It was
Speaker 1: it was everybody. Federal food was before them because it
Speaker 1: was done you right now this day it's always the
Speaker 1: next ship from what what was already there before? You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So it was dosifacts. It was
Speaker 1: honest and then correct, correct because y'all came out first,
Speaker 1: annoying by nature right time it came out first. And
Speaker 1: what was the first honest record to take off your
Speaker 1: guys on the box? Wait, don't get long. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: how was that studio session? I throw your guns over there.
Speaker 1: I need to hear this. A lot of truck really,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of a lot of drugs and so
Speaker 1: so what was the vibe like like because because what
Speaker 1: I'm saying is like, I mean honestly like not because
Speaker 1: you're my friends, but you've really changed the face of music.
Speaker 1: So the nigger Sticky was doing his verse right. Uh,
Speaker 1: So we were doing a verse in twelve twelveth studio
Speaker 1: remember that studio that's not burned down in Queens no,
Speaker 1: remember that I made the Power Players the South Side. Ye,
Speaker 1: So anyway, the studio mant so we're doing throw your guns,
Speaker 1: wilding out on some on some Superman ship, Shooperman drugs
Speaker 1: and that. So Sticky doing his verse, showed off sweat
Speaker 1: like a slave in the booth. I'm slapped them on
Speaker 1: his stack. Yes, right when y'all made the record, did
Speaker 1: y'all know what it was gonna do to the culture
Speaker 1: or this was just like another We got Jay with us,
Speaker 1: we knew were on depth shit, but we're here four reads,
Speaker 1: got the whole block with us. But we went to
Speaker 1: a show like fucking no exaggeration. Fifteen calls filled up
Speaker 1: everybody when they had a light time blowing the Tobo.
Speaker 1: Now we knew, we knew he wasn't in there wasn't
Speaker 1: and he wasn't in there. We wasn't in not not
Speaker 1: not to funk it up. That's why the album was
Speaker 1: called back the Funk Up. That was the whole vibe
Speaker 1: of the album, Like everybody got to back the funk up.
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. And you've got Leo, Cole
Speaker 1: and Russell like giving us the video spitting in the
Speaker 1: video like they like just got ahead, Like you can't
Speaker 1: just say that like that was normal your head bro
Speaker 1: suit in the video, I don't spit with feet jacket
Speaker 1: on them. People want talking the roads like model been
Speaker 1: driving here back And you know it's crazy because run
Speaker 1: DMC was never actually on deptha. It was what that's
Speaker 1: not so j he's on profile. He looked at me
Speaker 1: like because he was my profile. His niggas is you
Speaker 1: know what I mean already owner Andy. Everybody has something
Speaker 1: popping the lady what I'm saying his label? Do you
Speaker 1: think it's on my leader? Tim stew ain't tell me
Speaker 1: about that? So how did you ever get off profile
Speaker 1: to get on? You just had a single dude a
Speaker 1: single day. Red alard ain't played the records and he
Speaker 1: was whacking all like like ship he was like and
Speaker 1: was like, I don't like I don't like the vote.
Speaker 1: If Red didn't like your ship, he wasn't not getting
Speaker 1: on and I don't like it. Fucking scraps. So now whatever,
Speaker 1: it's slam slam. That's the same as the first. So
Speaker 1: the guns your first, yo, y'all. They gotta be quiet, y'all, y'all, y'all,
Speaker 1: y'a doing talk about that. Wasn't talking about this, yall? Yeah, slam.
Speaker 1: Let me let me tell you because let me let
Speaker 1: me tell you something. Slam. Let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: Slam was like the first time I've seen because obviously
Speaker 1: walked this way. I was too kind of young, because
Speaker 1: I'll be four, No I walked this way. I was like,
Speaker 1: that was eighty two. I was born in seventies seven
Speaker 1: or something like that like that. I was young, young boy.
Speaker 1: So but this is like I see so when I
Speaker 1: see walk this way, it was kind of later on
Speaker 1: in my life, right, but when I all got damn it.
Speaker 1: But when I see slam, that was like the first
Speaker 1: time I see white people fully embraced hip of culture,
Speaker 1: Like I fully seen them come. I don't know what
Speaker 1: that is. That's when we actually goddamn, he's rich makes
Speaker 1: the noise stick. Being rich got. But for you guys,
Speaker 1: like like did you know when you may slam that
Speaker 1: across you? You you were beyond the hood, Like the
Speaker 1: hood funk with y'all. But but now it was like
Speaker 1: white people was playing slam. Yeah, the box, remember the
Speaker 1: box and the way it was all plan. It was
Speaker 1: all plan because that reckon took a long time to make.
Speaker 1: It wasn't just seven days like God created the heavens
Speaker 1: of the earth. It took us seven days to create
Speaker 1: the rhythm in the verse the crazy ship is. We
Speaker 1: didn't even like the beat, which you know, shot skills,
Speaker 1: shot skills, shot skilled. He was from all left que queens.
Speaker 1: He produced to bety ain't like it. I was like,
Speaker 1: it's too solt. He was like, yo, this is it.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what are we talking about, dud boy, I
Speaker 1: can't you didn't like to beat. I'm kind of you
Speaker 1: didn't lanky because it was made last days. So no,
Speaker 1: not even that and that it was just like so
Speaker 1: for he was doing he's doing it like back that up,
Speaker 1: niggers an had to put you skirt up all that
Speaker 1: type of ship did he come in with the I
Speaker 1: think y'all was just I don't think. I was like
Speaker 1: that was too so. I think that was not so
Speaker 1: comparison to the other records right right right like like
Speaker 1: like Jay, like Jay, I think it vinced me like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is it. So when it was jam Master Jack's
Speaker 1: so right, and now let's let's let's just touch on
Speaker 1: jam Master Jay a little bit. I haven't worked at
Speaker 1: his studio. The other studio, the one that he passed away.
Speaker 1: Never worked never, I never worked Natures Queen thing is
Speaker 1: going to Yeah, yeah, it's I went to the studio
Speaker 1: after this ship happened. I was just like it was
Speaker 1: just like il filing and like, how sav is that
Speaker 1: moment for you? Guys. I'm sorry to get to some
Speaker 1: serious ship. You know, you know this is drink chance
Speaker 1: you like to touch on everything that was that was
Speaker 1: like my big brother. Yeah. First time I came to
Speaker 1: labor was with j on some movie ship Brus Simmons
Speaker 1: that Quincy Jones was doing a TV show and I
Speaker 1: was coming out of Queens to audition for the show
Speaker 1: and all of that. Michael Rappaport, that's the first time
Speaker 1: I met him. First time I was even on the
Speaker 1: plane was with Jane God bless God, bless you gotta
Speaker 1: we gotta just let's everybody please just just stop for
Speaker 1: a second. Let's get him moment of silence for jam
Speaker 1: Master jam Everybody bless jam Master James makes a noise
Speaker 1: for him too, got dad. So now so now let's
Speaker 1: lett let's let let's take us through this time. You
Speaker 1: your first acting gig was Moe Shaw or though no
Speaker 1: strap come on? Was that's likely? Now that's crook okay?
Speaker 1: So how do you podcast? Juice? And just strapped? And
Speaker 1: it was minister Society, So streaming like I don't lie?
Speaker 1: How do how what happens? You get this call to
Speaker 1: to to because because we're wrapper us at this time
Speaker 1: and you get this call to Holly? What this calling?
Speaker 1: Even though it's in New York? That was Russell Russell
Speaker 1: Muscle was like, yo, go do that for that wow?
Speaker 1: And Jay the music supervisor, So album back the funk
Speaker 1: up was like the soundtrack and ship? What was yours
Speaker 1: first acting? Good actor? Like I didn't do it this
Speaker 1: ship and they let me go gonna leave? What was
Speaker 1: your fr baby? Clock was Spike Laby Fred Grow So
Speaker 1: let's just let's do you know how much they just
Speaker 1: slung on us like that first track? This first was Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I had a cameo I was, I was in
Speaker 1: the lineup? What was that when you had the yellow
Speaker 1: jacket or Sunset Park? Sunset Park? Let me save that then?
Speaker 1: And that was me playing ball too money. So now
Speaker 1: when you when you think about it, how hip hop
Speaker 1: has transitioned and you guys have right now we'll interview
Speaker 1: when you were Hollywood, which means that you had to
Speaker 1: do good to stay in Hollywood, cause a lot of
Speaker 1: people move here and they move the funk back and
Speaker 1: they realized, how so how hard is it to say,
Speaker 1: you know what, I want to crack in the Hollywood
Speaker 1: because it's better payment for us for those that don't know, Like,
Speaker 1: let's speak to the to the people, it's better payment
Speaker 1: when it when you when it comes to as far
Speaker 1: as the work. You know what I'm saying. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it's a different payment. I would say that I want.
Speaker 1: It's better. It's just a different atmosphere, different, a different surrounding,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But it's it's the same
Speaker 1: la suit, same fight, different round, you know me right,
Speaker 1: But but it's plain to an artists, that's you know,
Speaker 1: rapping right now. And that's saying, you know, because that's
Speaker 1: what that's what most people do. They wrapped to get
Speaker 1: to the movies, and then they do the movies to
Speaker 1: get to whatever. You know, the army they're gonna want
Speaker 1: to wrap it, the rap they're gonna do r vs
Speaker 1: exactly a basketball that's all the same as hard as
Speaker 1: you allowed to be do it all. Now, you did
Speaker 1: a movie. Didn't you do a horrible movie? Was it?
Speaker 1: Wesley Snipes? Now it's not horrible? Wesley Snipes play Blade
Speaker 1: in the movies and I was a Blade for TV
Speaker 1: Spight TV with lost of them all? Now is that
Speaker 1: different for you all? Is that's like now that ship
Speaker 1: was hell because you know, growing up I was a
Speaker 1: comic book. So to beat out Michael and play fucking
Speaker 1: blades ship And I'm the first rapper to ever be
Speaker 1: a fault Wilson Smith played what's his name? I made?
Speaker 1: And that was after the plate first trappers. You were saying,
Speaker 1: well last last, well, so so now your first time acting,
Speaker 1: because it's different like when you when you're doing videos,
Speaker 1: you'll get a trailer if you're lucky, right, but act
Speaker 1: it's like stand it like serving. So what made y'all
Speaker 1: say I'm gonna still do music because I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: lie my first movie. I was like, I'm I'm doing
Speaker 1: two million records the first album, like like like this
Speaker 1: is what we do, like we love this is hip hop.
Speaker 1: That's the foundation of everything, foundations the foot right there.
Speaker 1: So you stay, what's your favorite red hip hop? Right now?
Speaker 1: My favorite ever I can't. I think I would have
Speaker 1: to agree with him because because I'm a fan of
Speaker 1: all right now right they pass. They can't do nothing
Speaker 1: about that ship. That's that's my favorite errors right now,
Speaker 1: right now, right now. What's your favorite new artists? Me?
Speaker 1: That's my new name is my favorite man that these
Speaker 1: niggas called Dope Deal d They from Netherlands. These niggas
Speaker 1: just crazy because y'all get a lot of overseas. We
Speaker 1: gotta draw album with them. They're so we did. We
Speaker 1: just did an album. Core shot doesn't hell. So that's
Speaker 1: that's out right now. It's coming like um in the
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Speaker 1: d J. Then, so you guys on Depth Jam, you
Speaker 1: come out and then you do a racket. You do it.
Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, I know I'm bringing out exactly like
Speaker 1: he's gone. And I looked out because yeah, you know
Speaker 1: how much I looked out. I looked up to y'all.
Speaker 1: I still do and y'all called me for the record.
Speaker 1: That's right. My last studio session when he was weird
Speaker 1: was your per super and was battling when he's thinking,
Speaker 1: it's like and that was that was very corner the
Speaker 1: people's yeah yeah, but that was yeah, that's right. So
Speaker 1: what made y'all say, because I was a youth at
Speaker 1: that time, y'all was like the O G s right.
Speaker 1: So what made y'all say, let me let me reach
Speaker 1: you out to this nigga and punt and one because
Speaker 1: we were legends, but you had to hot. You was
Speaker 1: hot nigger and it was like it was like first
Speaker 1: of all your queen's nigger, and then and then and
Speaker 1: then the whole like you he was a bad star
Speaker 1: because the whole Iraq that all that. That's one of
Speaker 1: the songs before were going stage. You eat yeah man,
Speaker 1: the hotel say you gotta turned out. I need ship
Speaker 1: with a guy that you know. You know what that
Speaker 1: was like, Just in case you guys ain't know, that
Speaker 1: was like the hot light of my career, like when
Speaker 1: I did Grind Me over, Um it was one and
Speaker 1: in salute to you guys, it was irrespectub guys know
Speaker 1: that I always says that I didn't even know that.
Speaker 1: Look at and if I always said, I just thought,
Speaker 1: you know jack grimy, jacky, I think, oh yeah, that
Speaker 1: definitely in Germany. I was in Germany. It was Jermany
Speaker 1: from where I had two boxes a half half and
Speaker 1: you stink, you just put it putting on good nigger,
Speaker 1: my bad. I don't worry taking you. You're good too.
Speaker 1: But you know what the grades ship is if it
Speaker 1: wasn't for y'all, you know, originating that grindme lifestyle, originally
Speaker 1: representing that grindme lifestyle, because you know, you gotta realize
Speaker 1: when I came out at that moment it was puff Daddy,
Speaker 1: I was directly against puff Daddy, meaning they had the
Speaker 1: shiny sunny, they had the radio records, and I was
Speaker 1: making I definitely six. That was it was ninety seven.
Speaker 1: See nineties ships, don't see it's seven sea. Yeah, in
Speaker 1: late night seven. You know you pay my name. You
Speaker 1: know we met in ninety seven early we were we
Speaker 1: were promoting. Yeah, that was like a long time. It's
Speaker 1: kind of late ninety seven. And then going in and
Speaker 1: said in Miami, yeah, he came through my stores and
Speaker 1: move down here. I've seen in money, said y'all out,
Speaker 1: I'm done. I'm done. I'm done so now, But you
Speaker 1: described that because like, like you know, the fans know
Speaker 1: why I lived moved to Miami. Describe what made your
Speaker 1: choices to relocate to l A like make l A,
Speaker 1: y'all because we was hustling out here, hustling with these movies.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Then once you, once you,
Speaker 1: once you find the weather is good, the weed is good.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Like where you going? You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, You go back home in New
Speaker 1: York can be freezing and you'd be like yo, black
Speaker 1: and that, you know what I'm saying. Just just the
Speaker 1: hustle and just you know, you've been out here since
Speaker 1: ninety what ninety six? Damn, this makes a lot from
Speaker 1: getting money since nights showing it out there waiting for
Speaker 1: night sent But yeah, you're just saying a lot of
Speaker 1: a lot of New York brothers, they're making home. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, They stayed out here, I mean
Speaker 1: they got left, you know what I'm saying. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can't even like all of that. I can't even
Speaker 1: like that like somebody to talk about and move it
Speaker 1: back and moved back. That's why I know now we
Speaker 1: moved back, you know what when you know? But l
Speaker 1: a bass and now and then and then working on
Speaker 1: her base a TV? What did you what did you
Speaker 1: like more TV? Or movies? I like? I like movies,
Speaker 1: like movies. And it's playing that for all listeners. It's
Speaker 1: playing that and put like this. I like, I like
Speaker 1: whatever the bloord is blessing me with you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like, I don't take nothing for gally. The
Speaker 1: night of the night, that's what it is. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: the ship, the night up. Dominated Yeah, the night up.
Speaker 1: So so where was you at when you got the
Speaker 1: call for that? Uh? I don't drunk white driving right daytime,
Speaker 1: so yeah, probably sleeping woke up. It was like, so
Speaker 1: that's how do you choose roll? Because because you guys
Speaker 1: don't choose bad road, So how do you choose? Sometimes
Speaker 1: the road shoes at you. Sometimes they say they want
Speaker 1: you for this part, you know, like ice you when
Speaker 1: I did the next Fridays that wasn't in the script
Speaker 1: and I went up there. But what's meant with him?
Speaker 1: He said? Oh? Ship? He still got that crooked eye.
Speaker 1: He's gonna be deep over the problem. That's all. That's all.
Speaker 1: That's all. Some ship laughed. They called, like, yo, we
Speaker 1: want to see his eye. No, let's see. Let let's
Speaker 1: let's go deeper into debt with that one. Was that
Speaker 1: Friday after that? No, that's next Friday Friday? Now you
Speaker 1: already understand how much of a classic Friday is or
Speaker 1: you you just wanted a role or you knew it.
Speaker 1: I think both. Okay, he made it speccy for me.
Speaker 1: Show me to my trailer. Alright, now, how is that spirits?
Speaker 1: Being the East Coast guy a New York Listen, listen,
Speaker 1: listen this on earth man. Yeah, but it's like eat
Speaker 1: the world so much that everything is the fucking secking everything, architecture,
Speaker 1: everything the same, except some places have different weather fro,
Speaker 1: different animals, my great, different insects, colored people, what, it's
Speaker 1: all the same her this table was different because this
Speaker 1: is word. This one is still go was a table.
Speaker 1: Let's make some money? That got that table everywhere? You
Speaker 1: gotta tallet ye as a hole in the floor. You know,
Speaker 1: you know that's the most ya you know, you know
Speaker 1: what's the most supported thing about your career is I
Speaker 1: can I can see y'all still something out like fifty
Speaker 1: thousands of like I'll be seeing y'all going places like
Speaker 1: y'all could talk y'all just like the restaurant y'all y'all night,
Speaker 1: yea yea cold d sound dishes. You know what's now?
Speaker 1: You know what's crazy? It's so badly because because because
Speaker 1: I came out in ninety seven years I sold you
Speaker 1: came out ninety to ninety two, ninety two, okay, So
Speaker 1: for me to see y'all my old g so for
Speaker 1: me to see y'all still out, there's still out, specially
Speaker 1: still looking good, Like how does that fail? Because this,
Speaker 1: you know, there's so many people who got to wreck it.
Speaker 1: So they're going right and they're gone, literally yo, Rob
Speaker 1: they's still killing them, yo. And I don't get that
Speaker 1: one two record you go, I don't know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I don't even know another Robbas record. I don't even
Speaker 1: know who that happens, you know who just saying that,
Speaker 1: I don't know another Robbas? Yeah, yeah, right, So he's
Speaker 1: showing his age so grim. So how do you feel
Speaker 1: about the new generation? Man? It is? It is the
Speaker 1: new generation. I like it. I mean I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't funk with it, but I like it. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, hip hop, You know I sipop I
Speaker 1: understand it. I was chunky for I was just tell
Speaker 1: you back in the days we was getting pants, they
Speaker 1: was thirty eight thirty eight ways. But what I'm saying doubles.
Speaker 1: So people look at this, look at at a round
Speaker 1: these little niggas. But but it was hip hop, and
Speaker 1: that's the way we was interpreted the game at the time,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So everything went kind of tight,
Speaker 1: totally like but that's what that state thing. Because it's
Speaker 1: kind of crazy, right because when you look at like
Speaker 1: the Furious Spob and you look at like the beginning,
Speaker 1: like how they was dressing with leather and all that,
Speaker 1: it's kind of like that era now kind of right
Speaker 1: because when you see like I see like people that
Speaker 1: they were like things with no shirt on, and it's
Speaker 1: just like, look at Michael Jackson or he's ever. This
Speaker 1: whole ship was hot wood, but it was cool. It
Speaker 1: was hood. You haven't met Michael Jackson, never met mine
Speaker 1: David's cousin, But did you meet Michael Jackson. You can't floral.
Speaker 1: Let's break down the cousin with the cousin brother. She's
Speaker 1: officially Jackson had the last name, Uh, Billy Jean. It's
Speaker 1: not it's not so body tell us, tell us your
Speaker 1: Janet and how did you mean Janet jack Oh? Man,
Speaker 1: we're in the club Penny Dances. I was hating crazy
Speaker 1: or you huh on you They was hated. I mean,
Speaker 1: she was like the show of me love. It's like
Speaker 1: a while ago. You know, I don't dance like dance mound.
Speaker 1: They was like, cannon, I'll dance with Janet kid. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you mean everybody goes but you you mean stallone. You
Speaker 1: might see walking down with Yo. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Have you ever missed a struck? No? But I didn't. Yeah. Cool.
Speaker 1: When I missed seting Jackson, I was like, yo, I
Speaker 1: heard he's a real nigga too, already smokes people and
Speaker 1: talk and already already like a real street nigga. That's
Speaker 1: my looking. You noticed. He said, that's his nigga. Let's
Speaker 1: make it use man. He said that funny. They got
Speaker 1: it again, but they got a song again, rapping set
Speaker 1: them out of here. Now that's The thing about Sticky
Speaker 1: that a lot of people don't know you got a
Speaker 1: white artist. So it's break down that your white artist,
Speaker 1: who can who can sit what I'm saying this bot
Speaker 1: because you went when down? Because I mean he got
Speaker 1: a like I mean she's like the white Alicia Keys though,
Speaker 1: like let's pick her up, like she sang in front
Speaker 1: of us, you know what I'm saying, Like and I was,
Speaker 1: I was blown away because he said I want you
Speaker 1: to yeah sing and I'm looking at stick I'm like
Speaker 1: and she she got in front of the hotel and
Speaker 1: blew it down. Like I was impressed, but like he
Speaker 1: had a good time in name, I had a wonderful time.
Speaker 1: But like how like you gotta explain how how how
Speaker 1: or turn on the tip of your mind thinks you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like to these people, they say
Speaker 1: think outside of the box. I'm like, what box? Right?
Speaker 1: A right? They say, you're Sticky man, he can be
Speaker 1: a lot of hats man, Yeah, but they all go
Speaker 1: the same head. And you also also did a record
Speaker 1: with Sticky. This nigger directed the video. He was the
Speaker 1: b A, he was the assistant, he was the director,
Speaker 1: he was the fucking he did every thing you know
Speaker 1: to collect like I'm not gonna lie. I was so
Speaker 1: impressed that day because I'm sitting back, I'm thinking he's
Speaker 1: gonna have it, you know, I think he's gonna have
Speaker 1: you know, guys, meet me. He came and met me.
Speaker 1: He came and said, we're gonna do it right here.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do it like you really involved with everything.
Speaker 1: And then you called me the other day. He's speaking
Speaker 1: and you're editing the fucking video. You're still doing the wait,
Speaker 1: I'm like, what are you doing the way? He was like,
Speaker 1: how like you want to explain to these young kids?
Speaker 1: How does Why is this that's so important to you
Speaker 1: to be involved in every aspect of because nobody can
Speaker 1: do it like I do it like the bug Like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, okay to something, you can
Speaker 1: do this brushstroke. He's an artist, he's a really independent
Speaker 1: I did Fredo drink? Did Frederi drop? Yeah? Listen because
Speaker 1: we know you ain't drinking how long? Yes? Damn, I
Speaker 1: don't start with drinking. Did He's drink enough for both
Speaker 1: of us? You know what, I'm like, this stinking drinks
Speaker 1: so much? The crazy ship is I never even asked
Speaker 1: with with with Fredero. Wanted to drink because I've been
Speaker 1: hanging with Freda for so long. He just looked at
Speaker 1: me and sticky like yeall drunk niggas. Just y'all drunk niggas.
Speaker 1: Just keep going And this is the birth of the
Speaker 1: first time in years. And you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: You ain't saying, is I might you had a dream
Speaker 1: Seventh Street, seven Street, I remember, but I have a
Speaker 1: casual drinking. So casual. That's so now, onyxes On, let's
Speaker 1: the piece the Big DS two at x one before
Speaker 1: we even go further, x x one x one was
Speaker 1: rocking with us the whole Shut Them Down album. He
Speaker 1: was he was, He was a part of the album.
Speaker 1: So you had two losses. Yeah, eventually remember Big DS
Speaker 1: he died, He died and and and it's a lot
Speaker 1: of it's his guy named b Wi. He was the
Speaker 1: first producer for onyx He produced to we do It
Speaker 1: like this record. We have a profile and he was
Speaker 1: my man. We went to high school together and he
Speaker 1: got to before before the ship even popped off, Like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: So wrest in piece to be withs too, because he
Speaker 1: never gets any acknowledgement. But he was the start of it.
Speaker 1: He was part of the start of it. And you
Speaker 1: know what I'm doing, publisher. Now you guys, you guys
Speaker 1: been through it, the Golden era, every era. You guys
Speaker 1: are actually people who know Tupac and Big m I
Speaker 1: wanna you describe your relationship with Tupac. Pop was ill.
Speaker 1: I mean he was. He was cool with everybody. It
Speaker 1: wasn't like we had a one on one relationship, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It was like when I see him,
Speaker 1: it was cool. It was casual. It wasn't like we
Speaker 1: was calling each other. You know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: see him out so with respect. But he's big Eat
Speaker 1: two days. But he came here. But he came to
Speaker 1: the sunset Poperman. That's the picture of everybody. So because
Speaker 1: he had a song on the soundtrack. So when he
Speaker 1: came to the premiere, I was like, oh, ship, the
Speaker 1: snake is watching me on the screen, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like I would just be I'm watching the
Speaker 1: movie at the premiere. I'm like this, how old you
Speaker 1: just look back at this snag and he like this
Speaker 1: like looking at me, Like I'm enjoying itself. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I'm like, wow, because he had to
Speaker 1: come through this. I can't do with the drop Wolves
Speaker 1: voice shove was dead. You know what I mean. New
Speaker 1: York was a flop. Okay, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Came through smoke. The blunt was in. I got, I got,
Speaker 1: I got an offer to be on death row, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But I let him know. I
Speaker 1: was rolling with Jade. I looked like your team, I need,
Speaker 1: I need, I need you to describe this light was
Speaker 1: off after the movie me a real real promin all that.
Speaker 1: Who was in a parking lot after all that? She'll
Speaker 1: got this bad reputation like shaking artists. At this time,
Speaker 1: they was you know what I mean, there wasn't none
Speaker 1: of that home from jail. Yeah, okay. So he was like, yo, man,
Speaker 1: pop really pop pop? Really a mind you I want
Speaker 1: you to be with you know, death Throw. I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: I'm already with chain. He's like, you could work, we
Speaker 1: can work. You can work it out. No, not crazy.
Speaker 1: It's like it was some real business ship, like we
Speaker 1: could work it out. I'm like, and then we tried
Speaker 1: to do things, but it ain't really it ain't work out,
Speaker 1: you know. And now he talking about you are he said,
Speaker 1: my eyes, he was just talking about me. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to figure And then he didn't have to. They didn't
Speaker 1: have Death Throw East yet. He wasn't even like that,
Speaker 1: you know. I don't know how serious he was, but
Speaker 1: it was thrown out there, you know. And it's just like,
Speaker 1: I can't make this ship? Now? What was your relationship
Speaker 1: with Big First? Let me ask you Tupac Tupac memory
Speaker 1: listen Rodney Dangervilk club the time you and Rodney Dangerfield club.
Speaker 1: That's hard. That's Ronie Danger had a club. It was
Speaker 1: like on the East Side and ship get the life.
Speaker 1: I was a loserve for a long time. I just
Speaker 1: this is probably just too young, just like I was
Speaker 1: thinking that stay breaking. I don't know where we just
Speaker 1: went for so you went the bride show wasn't ready here,
Speaker 1: I wasn't ready, so you ain't got you arrived told club.
Speaker 1: He walked up to y'all like getting a ship many drink.
Speaker 1: I was drinking Heny at the time too, I remember,
Speaker 1: but it was Henny and Red Bull or something like that.
Speaker 1: But maybe it's Heny is Sprague now whatever was this,
Speaker 1: This was before death for all. You know what, it's
Speaker 1: all the errors, all the fucking radio all right, time,
Speaker 1: just time radio time. Yeah, okay, so now always what's
Speaker 1: the memorre? You gonna share a Biggie small and a
Speaker 1: lot of when in the studio doing that record with him?
Speaker 1: You know, you do know why back in the days
Speaker 1: with such a something much better time. I know time
Speaker 1: it's got from this. But at least at least we
Speaker 1: at least we did records in the same fucking studio.
Speaker 1: You got a regular big too. He was supposed to
Speaker 1: be on T and Remix. Believe it or not, flip
Speaker 1: that ship. Jesse West was to produce it. J Stop
Speaker 1: on your radio. You know what I'm saying. That's the same,
Speaker 1: different the group crew. I think Jesse West produced crew.
Speaker 1: I don't think he might the crew he was. I
Speaker 1: think somebody was doing with Puff at the time. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: the record with super Cat when the yeah, se y'all,
Speaker 1: I'm back again, like y'all, y'all, that's fun the jack y'all.
Speaker 1: And it was hot though. My baby remix right so ahead,
Speaker 1: how you j was like yo, she was like yo.
Speaker 1: This kid named Biggs in the studio. Puff want you
Speaker 1: to go through. I'm like, who He's like, just go
Speaker 1: through the studio. So we went to the studio by
Speaker 1: Nation was in there was in there? It was it
Speaker 1: was ill Man. That's the first time I ever heard
Speaker 1: his voice. Ye, like like I didn't even know who
Speaker 1: he was the first time MIGHT heard his voice. Do
Speaker 1: you think I just looked up to the sky like this,
Speaker 1: like like like oh ship, like the first time I
Speaker 1: heard like like I got but but not but not
Speaker 1: like intimidated, but like, yo, this is sounds ill Like
Speaker 1: that was a thin you know what I'm saying. Like
Speaker 1: it was Biggie Smalls. You know what I'm saying. This
Speaker 1: is what that dude, it's the same nigga. So did
Speaker 1: you did you think he was gonna He's gonna blow?
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