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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbo.

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Speaker 2: I'm after me. I'm a man, I'm for I've heard

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Speaker 2: so many players say, well, I want to be happy.

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Speaker 2: You want to be happy for dake Ado State?

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Speaker 1: Is that? Whoo?

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Speaker 2: Whoo?

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Speaker 1: And Dan and Tie welcome back to the solid verb

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Speaker 1: Boys and girls. My name is Ty Hildebrand, joining me

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Speaker 1: as always, but not from New York City. Dan Rubinstein,

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Speaker 1: where are you, sir? How are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm good. I am on the West Coast. I'm in

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Speaker 2: Lake Tahoe for work. I'm out here for the American

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Speaker 2: Century Championship. He is a celebrity Welf tournament. What now?

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Speaker 1: What is that?

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Speaker 2: The American Century Championships? You remember it's right after the

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Speaker 2: what the MLB All Star Game we're recording in? The

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Speaker 2: All Star Game is tonight. Typically this is the time

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Speaker 2: of year where no sports are happening, specifically because baseball

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Speaker 2: is in its All Star breaks, so nothing's going on.

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Speaker 2: So there's a bunch of athletes and actors and stuff

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Speaker 2: like that. I think Ray Romano is here justin Timberlake.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of notable football Jerry Rice is yeah, okay,

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Speaker 2: Steph Curry, fun people. So I'm going to be doing

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Speaker 2: fun golf things, which I don't know that much about golf.

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Speaker 1: Now, hold on, hold on, put Yeah, for anyone who's

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Speaker 1: listened to this show for any extended period of time,

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Speaker 1: they're pretty aware of your adversarial relationship with the fine

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Speaker 1: sport emphasized sport of golf. Will you actually be out

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Speaker 1: there playing amongst the celebrities and stars.

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Speaker 2: No, I will not be taking part in any of

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Speaker 2: the golf on the course. I'll be doing driving rain stuff.

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Speaker 2: So maybe I'll take a few cracks at the uh

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Speaker 2: what is it the white ball?

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Speaker 1: The white ball? Yeah? I demand since you've been doing

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Speaker 1: some Instagram story stuff for us. By the way, follow

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Speaker 1: us on Instagram. We're doing stories now. Yeah, I will

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Speaker 1: get in on the fun, I promise you. But in

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Speaker 1: the meantime, while you're out there, I demand that we

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Speaker 1: at least get some sort of video evidence of your

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Speaker 1: golf swing.

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Speaker 2: Oh. I can play golf.

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Speaker 1: I know you can play, but we'd like to see

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Speaker 1: it as interact. I can do that third part. Please

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Speaker 1: take a video and post it on the Instagram story.

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Speaker 2: Do you know who I think is out here? Ty?

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Speaker 2: I believe I saw his name on the list. Doesn't

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Speaker 2: mean for sure he's going to be here. Sometimes things

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Speaker 2: can come up. Brian Kelly, No, great, believe Brian Piot

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Speaker 2: about here. I'm going to do my very best to

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Speaker 2: get him on the solid verbal Instagram story account. Do it.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm going to try to do. Follow solid

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Speaker 2: verbal sounds just like it is solid verbal.

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Speaker 1: So you're at Lake Tahoe. Yeah, the scenery here is

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Speaker 1: decidedly different. They're actually doing some utility work outside the

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Speaker 1: for about twelve straight hours.

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Speaker 2: I'd take it so right now.

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Speaker 1: What I've got is a series of blankets draped over

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Speaker 2: Dan, I've been hearing Ed Sheeran and Bruno Mars and

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Speaker 2: pool outside. So I would still take yours also, Ty,

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Speaker 2: I realize something this is unrelated, but I want you

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Speaker 2: to do your best to accommodate the people that are

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Speaker 2: listening to the show at one and a half speed,

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Speaker 2: Here's what I want from you. I want you to

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Speaker 2: tell people where they can find the solid verbal online,

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Speaker 2: just whether it's Twitter or Facebook or Instagram. But I

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Speaker 1: You can find the solid verbal on Twitter at solid verbal,

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Speaker 1: I can't do this any longer, Dan, I'm dying here now.

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Speaker 2: I know. I just listen. We're forcing people in. Screw you, Overcast.

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Speaker 1: We are. We are getting a ton of new sign

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Speaker 1: ups on our newsletter, mainly because we've promised you that

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Speaker 1: I are about to firm up, and we'll probably be announcing,

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Speaker 1: I believe as their own, is doing some cool stuff,

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Speaker 1: so check that out. I'm excited to have a community

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Speaker 1: what are we doing tonight? Dan, you're out in Tahoe.

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Speaker 1: I'm back here in eastern Pennsylvania. Typically in a situation

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Speaker 1: we're not going to do it this week, too difficult. Correct,

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Speaker 1: make a deal if we want. In reality, it's kind

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Speaker 1: of not that we're gonna do some heads up matchups.

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Speaker 1: We're going to pose some propositions to each other, and

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Speaker 1: not in the way you'd think. These are entirely college football,

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Speaker 1: I promise, And we're going to talk through some situations

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Speaker 1: we could see coming down the pike here in the

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Speaker 1: twenty seventeen college football season. Correct, and we're going to

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Speaker 1: pick which side of things you and I would feel

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Speaker 2: This is true, and I don't think we're always going

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Speaker 2: we're always going to agree. But that's okay, Ty. It's

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Speaker 2: and it's about moving forward. And you know what, Ty,

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Speaker 2: contacted a foreign entity and have conducted a bit of opposition. Right,

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Speaker 1: First topic, we have a heads up matchup, Dan, which

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Speaker 1: side of the equation do you fall on? Siday, We've

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Speaker 1: got the total number of Oklahoma Sooners wins in twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's correct. I am going to go

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Speaker 2: It's a tough schedule. I'm going to say, by the way, though,

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Speaker 2: before we move on, that there will be seven coaches.

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Speaker 1: Oh back, so he're not eight. Who do you have

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Speaker 2: Some sort of combination of Dana Holgerson, Gary Patterson. I

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Speaker 2: have the Bill Snyder, I have the Cliff Kingsbery. I

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Speaker 2: think there's going to be a promotion. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if it's Gary Patterson. I don't know if it's whole.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's even David Baty if he

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Speaker 2: I think there's going to be even more turnover as

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Speaker 2: the Big twelve becomes a less and less desirable place

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Speaker 1: Interesting.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, so like ten to seven, eleven to seven

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Speaker 2: kind of thing. Next topic, Dan, here we go. I'm

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Speaker 2: excited about this one. I'm excited. I think we're going

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Speaker 2: to get some interesting feedback on this one. Minnesota wins

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Speaker 2: in twenty seventeen, the ultimate wild card. Now with an

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Speaker 2: ultimate wild card as their head coach in PJ. Fleck,

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Speaker 2: they're Vegas over under for wins is seven and a

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Speaker 2: half versus total wins by the Iowa Hawk guys in

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Speaker 1: They're Vegas total at least again very early mid July,

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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, to take a step back, I

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Speaker 2: I am going with Minnesota for one reason and one

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Speaker 2: I has got a brutal schedule. Minnesota might just be Okay,

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Speaker 2: We don't know anything about Michigan State. We know Illinois

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Speaker 1: Iowa's schedule is decidedly more difficult than Minnesota. The thing

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Speaker 1: But Iowa has fooled me before, so I don't think

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Speaker 1: But it wouldn't be beyond them at all to just

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm interested in, time, and this is

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Speaker 2: going to sound a little bit strange. I'm interested in

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Speaker 2: Was unique about Hideo Nomo's game? His wind up, crazy

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Speaker 2: sort of struggled with that. I think that factor from

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Speaker 2: given everything that happened off the field, you know, it's

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Speaker 2: a fresh start for the Gophers. I think the Hitdeo

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Speaker 2: I think you and I both love Akrom Wadley. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think the Hideo Nomo factor favors Minnesota. So I'm

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Speaker 1: We're chock full of baseball analogies as it relates to

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Speaker 2: I loved Hideo Nomo. I loved Well.

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Speaker 1: You were a Dodgers fan too, you still are, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I could certainly see why he'd be a big deal.

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Speaker 1: Hideo Nomo was no Hideki rob Who mind you, but

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Speaker 1: We've also compared playing in Evanston to trying to hit

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Speaker 2: Who would you say? And I'm totally putting you on

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Speaker 2: minute coaching change? Is it's who is it? I mean

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Speaker 2: answer is probably Navy football. You could use that one

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Speaker 1: The problem is that Navy football doesn't have quite the

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Speaker 2: You know What's an interesting one to me? Florida with

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Speaker 1: Last year, Alabama and Jalen Hurts would have been an

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just it's much more saying we don't know

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Speaker 2: what they're going to look like at all. Going into

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Speaker 1: We've got two prominent quarterbacks, one East Coast, one West Coast.

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Speaker 1: One South one North one. DeAndre Francois fres Waugh from

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Speaker 2: Rating, yeah yeah, the ranking of his rating, yeah, the.

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Speaker 1: Ranking of his rating okay. So for example, he had

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Speaker 1: he was thirty ninth to Jake Browning's TV passes from

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Speaker 1: By that metric, it's a draw. Here's the problem I

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Speaker 1: have with this, Dan, I'm ready. If DeAndrea Francois gets better,

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Speaker 1: that number goes down. The number goes down, well, oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I happen to think that that DeAndre francois pretty good

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Speaker 1: placed on DeAndre Francois. He'll be fine, but just maybe

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Speaker 1: not one of the all time greats. On what side

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Speaker 2: I think he's fine. I think he's above average. I

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Speaker 2: think if you pay attention to him enough. And our

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Speaker 2: that's a big, big item, big factor in Francois's favor.

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Speaker 2: I just think he's fine. I think the offense will

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Speaker 2: they have Miami, they have NC State, they have an

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Speaker 2: and that's the John Ross factor.

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Speaker 1: John Ross factor.

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Speaker 2: Do you know how many receiving touchdowns John Ross had

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Speaker 2: last year and will not be there this year because

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Speaker 2: I think he had seventeen touchdown catches. Wow, he's a

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Speaker 1: we're looking for the higher number in Jake Browning. Right, Yes,

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Speaker 1: I gotta go Jake Browning.

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Speaker 2: Yes, okay.

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Speaker 1: I like DeAndre Francois. I think he's going to improve,

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Speaker 1: but I think this is a tougher proposition than meets

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Speaker 2: So I think Francois improves a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And in fairness, he could improve a little bit

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Speaker 1: and still sink in this reigning mm hm okay, next topic, Dan,

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Speaker 1: did you unfurl your mattress yet?

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Speaker 2: I did not unfurl my mattress. I've been on the road, ah,

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Speaker 1: I've said it once, I'll say it again. My Casper

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Speaker 1: You know I have shoulder issues. I had surgery on

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Speaker 1: I'm usually a restless sleeper, so both sides probably an

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Speaker 1: No, I don't ask, but I've heard that people who

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Speaker 2: I ask you one more follow up question about your

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Speaker 2: sleeping Yes, please, How many fewer articles of clothing do

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Speaker 2: you wear? Betre between the coldest and warmest night of

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Speaker 2: the year, coldest night of the year, how many articles

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Speaker 1: Bed coldest night of the year, usually got.

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Speaker 2: Every piece of cloth on your on your person.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I've I've already gone socks. I've gone

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Speaker 1: like sweatpants. I've gone T shirt and then long sleeve

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Speaker 1: shirt over top of it.

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Speaker 2: T shirt and long sleeve shirt over to the coldest.

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Speaker 1: Night of the year, and most of the time is

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Speaker 1: because they fell asleep at the couch and didn't feel

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Speaker 1: like changing. But I've done that before.

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Speaker 2: But I'm saying intentionally going to bed saying this is

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Speaker 2: my uniform, this is my sleep uniform.

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Speaker 1: I've done that. I've done that consciously as well.

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Speaker 2: I am staunchly, staunchly anti sock no matter the temperature,

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Speaker 2: so I will go, Yeah, there's at least two or

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Speaker 2: three fewer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd say that's probably accurate.

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Speaker 2: I can't I can't get what the socks night got

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Speaker 2: to let the dogs breathe, ty all right.

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Speaker 2: Next topic, I listen. I'm going to indulge you with

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Speaker 2: this one because every single time we do hypotheticals, every

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Speaker 2: single time we try to figure out things we like

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Speaker 2: or have crushes on. You come back to your alma mater.

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Speaker 2: May I ask you something, ty, because we have a

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Speaker 2: Penn State item we do, and we made this very

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Speaker 2: specific to us. If your fandom right now or not

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Speaker 2: even your fandom, your focus were a meter and on

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Speaker 2: one side of the meter it says Penn State and

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Speaker 2: the other side it said Notre Dame. And so basically

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Speaker 2: there's a tug of war happening with the needle on

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Speaker 2: this meter right where is the needle focused? Are we

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Speaker 2: sixty forty Notre Dame? We fifty to fifty? We seven

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Speaker 2: thirty Penn State? Because I'm getting a lot of Penn

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Speaker 2: State out of you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it used to be like ninety five

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Speaker 1: five in favor of under Dame. I was an odd

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Speaker 1: ball and that I was raised in the state of Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 1: where everyone was a Penn State fan, but my family

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Speaker 1: was not. My family trained me from birth to try

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Speaker 1: and root for a different team, Notre Dame, and all

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Speaker 1: throughout college I had a negative view of the Penn

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Speaker 1: State football team because I had been brought up in

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Speaker 1: a certain way. It wasn't until after college that I

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Speaker 1: don't know what happened, but I softened on Penn State.

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Speaker 1: So Notre Dame is still my alpha team, and I

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Speaker 1: don't even think it's close. But if I'm picking a

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Speaker 1: team number two, it's probably Penn State. It definite, probably

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Speaker 1: pens It's definitely Penn State.

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Speaker 2: I think if you got a phone call right after

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Speaker 2: we finished recording from Mike Kasiki saying you want to

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Speaker 2: host a podcast together about college football, Hans Casett, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you you would delete my number so quickly. I might

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Speaker 2: do it and even register.

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Speaker 1: I might do it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so where's your needle right now? If it was

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Speaker 2: ninety five to five, where is it right now? I'll go.

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Speaker 2: But Saquon Barkley does strange things to men.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Saquon Barkley probably makes it about sixty two thirty eight.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's a significant jump.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I dig it, Ty, I like it. I'm nothing

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Speaker 1: if not.

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Speaker 2: You know who's gonna love that? You know who's gonna

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Speaker 2: love hearing this? Mum age all of our friends in

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Speaker 2: the pen life comments.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's right. I can't wait for that. We need

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Speaker 1: to get on that show that we need to play

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Speaker 1: that game again sometime soon.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, that's true. Okay, all right, where.

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Speaker 1: Are we going next?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 1: Where we going?

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Speaker 2: All? Right, So we're gonna go total Penn State. Heisman invites.

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Speaker 1: That's right, there was there, there was an ulterior motive.

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Speaker 1: There wasn't there.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely total Penn State and anilion. Heisman invites plural plural first,

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Speaker 2: and this is about me Los Angeles quarterback. Heisman invites,

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Speaker 2: So an obvious reference to CAL State Northridge and cal

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Speaker 2: Poly Pomona. Now we're going with Josh Rosen and Sam Darnolds.

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Speaker 2: So wow, total Heisman. And it seems on the surface

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Speaker 2: this would be a reference to Trace McSorley and Saquon Barkley.

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Speaker 1: Right right, Huh. It's interesting you bring that up because

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Speaker 1: I was thinking about this and thinking about a similar question,

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Speaker 1: maybe not geared so much around how many Penn Staters

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Speaker 1: versus how many LA quarterbacks will go to New York,

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Speaker 1: but mainly will Trace McSorley join Saquon Barkley in New

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Speaker 1: York City. Now we're assuming that Saquon is going to

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Speaker 1: be there at all, provided doesn't get hurt. I think

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Speaker 1: he will. But Trace McSorley is an interesting one. He's

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Speaker 1: an interesting one I think if he goes at all

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Speaker 1: but ensures that Saquon won't win unless he has a

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Speaker 1: baller of a season. It would ensure that Penn State

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Speaker 1: as a team had a pretty good year if he

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Speaker 1: had enough notoriety to make it to New York to

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Speaker 1: begin with. So it's contingent on a number of factors.

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Speaker 1: I think Saquon will be there. I don't think Trace

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Speaker 1: McSorley will. I think he'll probably finish right outside the

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Speaker 1: running six, seventh, eight somewhere in there. I don't think

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Speaker 1: any quarterbacks from LA will be there zero. I don't

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Speaker 1: think that's necessarily a knock on Sam Darnold or on

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Speaker 1: I guess Josh Rosen. Both could have good years, but

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Speaker 1: I don't know if either is going to put up

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Speaker 1: the kind of pinball numbers that it seems the Heisman requires.

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Speaker 2: Nowadays, you're going Penn State, who has a trickier schedule

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Speaker 2: this year, but has an opportunity. They play Ohio State

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Speaker 2: in Michigan consecutive weeks.

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Speaker 1: Right, that's correct.

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Speaker 2: So just in terms of if Trace mcsorly shines right

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Speaker 2: in I believe it's later on in October. If he

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Speaker 2: shines right both of those games, if Penn State is

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Speaker 2: what we anticipate them being, will be on national stage.

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Speaker 2: I think the Ohio State game is already on Fox.

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Speaker 2: It's a nooner. Though, let's assume the Michigan game is

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Speaker 2: a night game, so he will be on display, him

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Speaker 2: and his And it's funny that you don't mention the

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Speaker 2: pop gun arm anymore. Isn't that interesting? How you stop

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Speaker 2: making that reference?

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Speaker 1: I noticed these things, ty, Yeah, it's funny how that works.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, but the timing is perfect because the schedule

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Speaker 2: eases up after that with Michigan State, Rutgers, Nebraska, Maryland.

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Speaker 2: In terms of the defenses he will face after Ohio

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Speaker 2: State on the road, So timing wise, I don't know

651
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Speaker 2: if it matters that he puts up huge numbers, but

652
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 2: if he wins and looks good in that back to

653
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 2: back with Penn State receiving so much attention in such

654
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 2: a confined space on the schedule, I think there's a

655
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 2: good shot.

656
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: Sure, I think there's a better that'll make or break that.

657
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 2: Don't think a combers thing.

658
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: There's a better shot of Penn Staters making it to

659
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: New York. Then you know both Sam Darnold and Josh Rosen.

660
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen, if you told me that week seven, a

661
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 1: hole in the earth opened up and he fell into it.

662
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 1: I'd be like, I could see that happening. I just

663
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 1: don't know what to expect from in twenty seventeen.

664
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, new offensive coordinator, Hyeah.

665
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:20,720
Speaker 1: So I'm curious.

666
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:25,320
Speaker 2: Third in three years, right, Yeah, Kennedy Polamalu, Jetfish and

667
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 2: Nolma Zone.

668
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm curious. Remember the knock on him coming out

669
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: of high school? Is he coachable?

670
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 2: Right?

671
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 1: I think he is, but I don't know if he's

672
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: done a whole lot to counter that argument. So we'll see.

673
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Penn State.

674
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 2: I almost think, I almost think trace McSorley has a

675
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:47,879
Speaker 2: better shot than Saquon Barkley. And that's not a knock

676
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 2: at all on Saquon Barkley. I just think it's more

677
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 2: difficult with Penn State schedule, you know, having Iowa, Michigan,

678
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 2: Ohio State, and obviously he tore up Iowa last year.

679
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 2: But I think it's going to be more difficult unless

680
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 2: he is putting up such crazy numbers consistently, and that

681
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 2: was something he didn't do last year. He had huge

682
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,959
Speaker 2: flash games, but he disappeared a little bit other games.

683
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 2: I think Trace McSorley as a quarterback in this system

684
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 2: in the second year in the system has a better

685
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 2: shot because of the way the heisman is laid out,

686
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:17,919
Speaker 2: not necessarily because of football talent.

687
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: Interesting, okay, but.

688
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 2: I'm my gut is to say push. I'm not a

689
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 2: huge fan of Josh Rosen. With this third coordinator in

690
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 2: three years, I really really, really like Sam Darnold, and

691
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 2: I only think he gets better. He's without his number

692
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 2: one receiver. Offensive line changes a little bit, which worries me,

693
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 2: given you know, protection issues, but I think he's escape.

694
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 2: His escapability is enough to the fact, enough to the

695
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 2: point where I think he gets there. So I'm going

696
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 2: to say I'm going to give the nod and say

697
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 2: one La quarterback zero Penn Staters is the most likely,

698
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 2: but they're both really good.

699
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 1: All right, let's do one more here and get out

700
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: a little early since you're out there in tok Okay.

701
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: Give you a chance to go enjare the scenery. Yeah,

702
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 1: here is final quot. Did wait, did you put this

703
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 1: one in here?

704
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 2: I must have.

705
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:09,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't see this one. So you've got Colorado

706
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:14,280
Speaker 1: wins versus the pac twelve North versus number of weeks

707
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: until Tye says, quote, I'm all in on Brandon Wimbush.

708
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the one.

709
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: So you're thinking one win for Colorado and the PAC

710
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 1: twelve North, you're.

711
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 2: Gonna it's gonna happen that quickly.

712
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: It could, It could, Dan.

713
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 2: After Temple, you're just making a declaration.

714
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: Here's what we got for Colorado's schedule against the PAC

715
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 1: twelve North. They play Washington, they play Oregon State, they

716
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:42,919
Speaker 1: play Washington State. Cal.

717
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, four games. They every team always misses two in

718
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 2: the PAC twelve of the opposing division.

719
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: The over under for them this year is like right

720
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: on the number at six. Cal would probably be the

721
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: I think most obvious win here.

722
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 2: So they're rebuilding their defense, their defensive court and Jim

723
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 2: Levitt who goes to Oregon. Offensively, they lose safe a loofou.

724
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 2: But that is a thing Colorado already. That's what they

725
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 2: do every week. They lose safe. We Loufau comes back,

726
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 2: they lose safe for a lufau whatever. Steven Monte has

727
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 2: got a lot of time last year. The problem is

728
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 2: against Washington, the offense was terrible, the defense was great.

729
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 2: The defense is gonna be different. I don't imagine Washington's offer.

730
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 2: Excuse me, Colorado's offense taking huge steps for versus Washington.

731
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,280
Speaker 2: It was a good game, a good win against Wazoo

732
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 2: late in the year. Cal I think is a win.

733
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 2: I just Oregon State's tricky going to Corvallis. They're getting better.

734
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 2: I like Gary Anderson as a coach. I think that's

735
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 2: a tricky game. I think one and a half is

736
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 2: probably the over under of acceptable wins there. And then

737
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,760
Speaker 2: if you compare that against Notre Dame, here's the first

738
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 2: five weeks, because you're going to say this within the

739
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 2: first five weeks, if you're going to say it at all, Ris,

740
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 2: Jeff Collins and Temple. I think we assume a good

741
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 2: defense given what has been recruited to Philly and what

742
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 2: that defense has looked like consistently over the past three

743
00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 2: or four years. Is that reasonable fare they're going to

744
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 2: play and Notre Dame has struggled with Temple recently. They're

745
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 2: going to play Georgia. Is that at home or is

746
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 2: that a neutral site game?

747
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 1: That game is at home at night seven point thirty

748
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: NBC Week two in Notre Dame.

749
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 2: Stay okay, Okay, So there's a tricky game. Boston College

750
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 2: should be relatively easy, not easy, but manageable. Defensively Michigan State.

751
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,760
Speaker 2: We don't fully know what to expect. Even when Michigan

752
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 2: State's bad, they still look pretty good against Notre Dame

753
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 2: and Miami Ohio finishes out September. So I would say

754
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 2: the overunder would be two because I think that Georgia

755
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 2: game is everything. The Georgia game could definitely sway me

756
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 2: as far as your crush. If he looks great against Georgia,

757
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 2: then I can anticipate a Sunday morning, you know, eleven am.

758
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 2: I'm all in, baby, I'm all in.

759
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:49,959
Speaker 1: It could happen.

760
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,439
Speaker 2: I'm ready, baby. Yeah. So what's your final your final

761
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,320
Speaker 2: judgment you said post Temple's possible.

762
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Colorado wins. Let's go Colcorada wins.

763
00:38:58,680 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 2: I'll do like Mike McIntyre.

764
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: I'll be a caricature of myself. I lose, but yeah,

765
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: let's go Colorado wins.

766
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 2: I like the facts that you can be all in

767
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 2: on Brandon Wimbush. Let's say after week two it looks

768
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 2: really good against Georgia and then you have USC, NC State, Miami, Navy,

769
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 2: and Stanford all to finish out the second half of

770
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 2: the year. For me to go back and say remember

771
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 2: when you said, but I really think Brandon Wimbush is

772
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 2: going to be be good for Notre Dame this year.

773
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 2: All right, there you have it, Dan, Yeah, I have

774
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 2: one other topic, but this is not a competing thing.

775
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 2: This is not an either or and it's totally off topic.

776
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 2: But we are now. It's July eleventh, is that right?

777
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: Yeah?

778
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 2: As we record this, Okay, in front of me, I

779
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 2: have the Billboard Hot one hundred and since you listen

780
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 2: to music of this kind much more than I do,

781
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 2: just because you have a radio, and I don't really Yeah,

782
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 2: I guess I could listen on Spotify, but I'm not

783
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 2: exposed to this as much as you are. I'm gonna

784
00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 2: give you the top five, okay, okay, that are currently

785
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 2: a top It's the week of July twenty second, the

786
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 2: Billboard Hot one hundred. And you tell me what the

787
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 2: current song of summer is, okay, okay? Of what is

788
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 2: your job? Here we go? Of the five of these five? Yeah, okay,

789
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 2: and if there's one outside of the five, you can

790
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 2: say it after number five? Is the shape of you?

791
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: Ed Sheeran, okay, a little overplayed like Ed Cheron, little overplayed?

792
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 2: Okay, So Tye is on the record Love Some smed

793
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 2: Cheeran doesn't like the overabundance, wild thoughts. DJ Collin featuring

794
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 2: Rihanna and somebody named Bryson Tiller.

795
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: Not a big DJ Colled fan.

796
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 2: Do you know that song?

797
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:39,760
Speaker 1: I do know the song. Not a huge fan. Quite honestly,

798
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 1: I don't get the whole DJ col Ed thing.

799
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 2: But number three, Bruno Mars That's what I like.

800
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 1: See now that that is what I like. Dan, This

801
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: is speaking to you, This is speaking to me. This

802
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: is speaking to me. Bruno is a true performer, a

803
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 1: Bruno fan.

804
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:54,879
Speaker 2: True.

805
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: I don't know what else is on this top five list,

806
00:40:58,120 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: but right now I'm feeling number three.

807
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 2: Number two is back to DJ Collin, which I don't

808
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 2: know what he does except for yell DJ at the

809
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 2: beginning of songs. Whatever. I've heard this song. I've heard

810
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 2: this song. It's DJ Colled featuring Justin Bieber Bieber excuse me,

811
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 2: Quavo Cuevo. It's the guy from Migos, Chance the Rapper

812
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 2: and Lil Wayne. That's number two, Okay. Number one is

813
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 2: Desposito the Remix featuring Justin Bieber.

814
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 1: See I'm cool with Bieber as an artist to be honest,

815
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: not like a fanboy, but Bieber as an artist, definitely

816
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 1: a person and uh way back, I still think I

817
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 1: give the edge to Bruno Mars.

818
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 2: Bruno Mars, That's what I like. Song of the summer.

819
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 2: Unless there's something outside of the top five. You gotta

820
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 2: imagine dragons you got Kendrick Lamar.

821
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean of those choices, let's say, off the

822
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 1: top of my head, I gotta go, I gotta go Bruno.

823
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 2: It's not a bad choice. I might go with I'm

824
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 2: the one, not a fan. DJ Colled, Yeah, guy from

825
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 2: mego not a fan. It's a pretty good song. It's

826
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 2: it's a pop hit, Tye, it is a pop hit.

827
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: Give me Bruno.

828
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 2: This Posito is also really good. Also, I give points

829
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 2: to des Basito because it's Daddy Yankee and he is

830
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 2: back from Gosolina.

831
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: I was in Cancun around the time that Gasolina came out.

832
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 1: Oh and let me tell you it was all Daddy

833
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: Yankee on loop ty.

834
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 2: Have you heard of the following artists Charlie Puff, Pooth, Poof, Poof, Poof. Finally,

835
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 2: have you heard of Charlie Pooth? I have, yeah, Okay,

836
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 2: I have not sewn Mendez. I have lil UZI vert nope,

837
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 2: Halsey yes, Julia Michaels, yes, James Arthur yes. Wow. I

838
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 2: don't know any of these people are listen to a

839
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 2: lot of pop radio.

840
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 1: I know you do. I know you do. Ty not

841
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 1: gonna lie?

842
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 2: What was what was the song I saw in here?

843
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 2: All right? I think this is all I have. But

844
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 2: I'm glad to know that you're You're in on Bruno ours.

845
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 2: That's what I like.

846
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,280
Speaker 1: Song of the summer I'm in baby?

847
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 2: All right? You sing along in the car?

848
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely?

849
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 2: Ah, Okay, making sure kidding me?

850
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 1: You've heard these pipes?

851
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 2: Dan, It's true.

852
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,160
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853
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,319
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00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:55,640
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Speaker 1: Enjoy your golf round. Enjoy your golf round tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Whatever it is you'll be doing, take fun pictures. If

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Speaker 1: you can get Brian Kelly, that would be nice. At

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Speaker 1: a minimum, though, we need your golf swing. Okay, I

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Speaker 1: can get that, but that guy over there, way over

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Speaker 1: there in beautiful Lake Tahoe for myself, Tie Hilde right

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Speaker 1: back here at the homestead in eastern Pennsylvania. Thanks again

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Speaker 1: for listening to the solid verbal. We will catch you

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Speaker 1: all in a week. In the meantime, stay silent peace,