1 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:10,399 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always 3 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: by my partner in crime, Weston Hodkowitz. We're coming to 4 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: you hear from our studios at Lambeufield, ready to discuss 5 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: Sunday's upcoming game noon Central time, kickoff at Lambefield. It'll 6 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: be the Packers against the Los Angeles Rams. So, Wes, 7 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 1: let's take a look at this Rams team right now, 8 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: and the first thing that jumps out to me is 9 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: the schedule that this team has had. Like my goodness, 10 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: they start the season actually by beating the Seattle Seahawks, 11 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 1: and the Seahawks only have two losses so far this year. 12 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: One of those was in the opener of the Rams. 13 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: But then they have had very close competitive losses to 14 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers, to the Bengals, to the Eagles, 15 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: and then, unfortunately for them, they kind of took one 16 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: on the chain in last week against the Dallas Cowboys, 17 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: getting blown out. I think they were down, you know, 18 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: like thirty points before kind of some late late scores 19 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: closed the gap a little bit. But really that game 20 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 1: last week against Dallas is the only one the only 21 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: one they've played, yeah, against one of the better teams 22 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: in the league that hasn't been close. Hard to say 23 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: exactly you know where things are headed with this Rams team, 24 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 1: but it's a competitive bunch. 25 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 2: It is a competitive bunch. Scrappy, I think, is the 26 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 2: word that comes up. Salty is the way you think 27 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 2: about it. 28 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: But Larry likes that word salty, big. 29 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 2: Salty, gay No. But I mean the thing about it, though, 30 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 2: is the Packers are probably meeting a team that has 31 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 2: dealt with more injuries. Maybe not on a hole as 32 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,919 Speaker 2: Green Bay has, but definitely right now when you compare 33 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 2: their injury reports. Stafford right now working through his deal 34 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 2: here day to day. The thing about it is, though, 35 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 2: for as much as I think there were questions about Okay, 36 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 2: Sean mcay is going to come back, what do they have? 37 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 2: What has impressed me the most is in the Rams 38 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 2: have done this continually. There's always somebody else that seems 39 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 2: to step up for them that you weren't expecting. They've 40 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 2: done it for years in the backfield. I mean, Cooper 41 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 2: cup in some regards came out of nowhere and it's 42 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 2: happening yet again here with this young football team. 43 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. When you look at the big story this week 44 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: and leading up to Sunday's game is going to be 45 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: the status of Matthew Stafford, the quarterback. He's dealing with 46 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: a ligament injury in his thumb. The Rams have said 47 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: he's day to day. At the time we are taping this, 48 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: all we know is that he did not practice on Wednesday. 49 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: Sounds like it's something that could end up being an 50 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: end of the week or possibly even a game day decision. 51 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: If Stafford were to start, I will just throw this in. 52 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 1: It would actually it would be his twenty second career 53 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,959 Speaker 1: start against the Green Bay Packers, which is the most 54 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: of his twenty one already is the most by far 55 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: of any active quarterback in the NFL. Well, if Stafford 56 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: cannot go, the rains would be turned over to Brett Rippen. 57 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: He is the backup and he's only thrown ten passes 58 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: this season. This is a young quarterback with a young 59 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: quarterback with not a lot of experience, But the injuries 60 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: don't stop there for them. They're leading rusher Kyron Williams 61 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: is currently on injured reserve, so they're trying to piece 62 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: together a running game with Royce Freeman and Darryl Henderson, 63 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: who they brought back after he was gone for a while. 64 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: And then the big story in terms of their offense 65 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: is that while Cooper Cup was out and still recovering 66 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: from a very long term and difficult hamstring situation, low 67 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: and behold, a rookie fifth round pick out of BYU 68 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: named Puka Nakua has kind of taken the NFL by 69 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: storm in a lot of respects. Obviously, his name gets 70 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: a lot of attention, but his numbers wes. I mean 71 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: sixty one catches for seven hundred and ninety five yards 72 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: and eight games. That puts him on pace for more 73 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: than one hundred and twenty catches more than sixteen hundred 74 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: yards as a rookie fifth round pick in this league. 75 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: This is a guy that teams have had a lot 76 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: of trouble containing. 77 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I love the fact that Stafford. Stafford's numbers 78 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 2: are not good like by any means, but the guy 79 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 2: already has two thousand passing yards on the season. They 80 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 2: are just slinging the football right now. But Nikua, the 81 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 2: thing I love about it is again less snead, a 82 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 2: guy that has had virtually no draft picks for what 83 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 2: five years. The way that they've done things. They finally 84 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 2: get a fifth round pick here this year, it's like, ah, hey, 85 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 2: we'll take probably what is right now the offensive rookie. 86 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: I'll say he's on his way to being the offensive 87 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 1: rookie of the year in the NFL. 88 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 2: But the exciting thing for the Rams, and unfortunately for 89 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 2: the Packers what they're gonna have to contend with is 90 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 2: Cup has come back. And while we've seen how hamstring 91 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 2: injuries can linger and hold guys back and aggravations, Cup 92 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 2: has come back and has already over three hundred receiving 93 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 2: yards as well in the year, averaging fifteen yards of catch. 94 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 2: Just a very explosive offense. I think Tyler Higbe is 95 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,559 Speaker 2: one of the more underrated tight ends in the league. 96 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 2: He's not going to be a dude that's going to 97 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 2: wow you. He's not going to be your best friend's 98 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 2: favorite fantasy tight end, but another guy that helps move 99 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 2: the sticks. The backfield has been in flux, as it's 100 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 2: been for a while here for them. But the one 101 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 2: thing that they do well, and I give them credit 102 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 2: for it, Henderson comes back. They get Freeman involved, they 103 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 2: get some veterans and some guys with some knowledge of 104 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 2: the system and they can kind of get back on, 105 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 2: you know, the ground running. 106 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. One of the things when you look at when 107 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: you look at sort of the statistical profile of the Rams, 108 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: one of the things that doesn't really make a lot 109 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 1: of sense is how well they move the ball and 110 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: the yardage that they pile up. But it hasn't translated 111 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: to the points they've had. They've had trouble finishing drives. 112 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: And then on top of that, they had a kicker 113 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 1: who has since been released, but they had a kicker 114 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: who had missed six field goals in the first you know, 115 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 1: five or six games whatever of the regular season, so 116 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: forty three field goals, believe, Yeah, well that's and and 117 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: that's they haven't been able to they move the football. 118 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: They moved the football all the time, but they have 119 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: not they have not been able to finish drives. And 120 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: then they left a lot of they've left even more 121 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,119 Speaker 1: points out there because they had a kicker who wasn't 122 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: wasn't making making kicks. They've since made a change at kicker, 123 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: sorry man, and are looking to uh, you know, looking 124 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: to get you know, in better shape with regard to 125 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 1: their to their red zone offense, to be able to 126 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: put more points on the board. They don't have. They 127 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: don't have much of a running game, but with getting 128 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: Cooper Cup back with you know, to two at wells 129 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 1: doing some things for them in the passing game. You 130 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: have Tyler Higbee who's starting to become kind of a 131 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: mainstay at tight end, you know, kind of an old 132 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 1: stand by if you will. In Sean mcvay's offense. This 133 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: strikes me as an offense that is potentially ready to 134 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: bust out, you know, because because of the way they've 135 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: consistently moved the football this year. I think this is 136 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: going to be a significant challenge for Green Bay defense. 137 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 2: And they what on the chops to the Cowboys right 138 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 2: before this, I mean the Rams right now. This season, 139 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 2: I think, as you were talking about in the intro, 140 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 2: they've been the quintessential team of They've beaten who they've 141 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 2: needed to beat, and they've lost to the teams that 142 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 2: probably they were the underdogs against, with the exception probably 143 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 2: that Week one game. I think that caught everybody by 144 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 2: surprise a little bit, especially with what the expectations were 145 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 2: for the Rams this season. Right that being said, I 146 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 2: think if I'm the Packers, I got to think about 147 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 2: the fact that it was a slow start for the 148 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 2: Rams last week. And if you ever want to see 149 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 2: how important Slover's fast starts can be, just watch the 150 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 2: first two quarters of that game against Dallas, where Dallas 151 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 2: basically put that thing away before they even got to halftime. 152 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, the Cowboys got an early score, then 153 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: Stafford threw a pick six, and then the next time 154 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: the Cowboys got the ball, they scored again, and it 155 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: just you know, it started to It started a snowball 156 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: on the Rams, and that game got away from them 157 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: in a hurry. On the defensive side of things, of course, 158 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: it all revolves around Aaron Donald. I believe, three time 159 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: NFL Defensive Player of the Year if I'm not mistaken. 160 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: He has four and a half sacks so far this 161 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: year of his team's fifteen sacks, so he has roughly 162 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: one third of this defense's sacks. It's a unit other 163 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: than Aaron Donald. There aren't a lot of big, recognizable 164 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: names necessarily on this defense. But again, I'll say, when 165 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: you look at things statistically, except for last week's game 166 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: against the Cowboys when the score really got away from him, 167 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a team that didn't give up 168 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: a whole They only gave up i think twenty three 169 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: points to the Philadelphia Eagles, who have a pretty darn 170 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: good offense. They did not give up a whole lot 171 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: of points to the Cincinnati Bengals. You know, early in 172 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 1: the season. Obviously they held the Seattle Seahawks and check. 173 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: So this is a this is a defense that's held 174 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: its own but is coming off of a rough game. 175 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,079 Speaker 1: This is a team, a team that is coming off 176 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: of a rough game, and it'll be interesting to see 177 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: exactly how they respond to that. And I think the 178 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: expectation from a guy like Sean McVay is that his 179 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: team is going to respond well because it is a 180 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: veteran team. There aren't a whole lot of young guys 181 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: out there, with the exception of their leading receiver. 182 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 2: No, And I think this was the area when the 183 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 2: Rams are I don't want to call it a rebuild, 184 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 2: but what they were sort of doing with taking down 185 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 2: the tent a little bit and selling some of their wares, 186 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 2: it affected the defense quite a bit. And it isn't 187 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 2: so much changed the way they're ranked or any of 188 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 2: those type of things. They're just not taking away the 189 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 2: football right now. They're tied with Green Bay twenty ninth 190 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 2: in the NFL the fewest takeaways so far in the 191 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 2: league at six, so that has been a big challenge 192 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 2: for them finding a way to make those impact plays. 193 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 2: And why you look at a game like this where 194 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 2: turnover margin may weigh so heavily, but Aaron Donald is 195 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 2: who he's always been. I'm sure this is going to 196 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 2: be a matchup that Elton Jenkins is relishing. It's a 197 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 2: good time to get Jenkins back to health a little 198 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 2: bit more with that knee, and certainly something in the 199 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,599 Speaker 2: Green Bay Packers offensive line is going to have to 200 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 2: be cog because, unlike a lot of teams where you're 201 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 2: worried about the edge pressure and what gets generated through 202 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 2: the middle but determined on how much attention you pay outside, 203 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 2: everything starts in the middle at the three tech and 204 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 2: at those positions for the Rams, and they build out 205 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 2: their pressure from the rest of that. Yeah. 206 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: Absolutely, Well, let's use that to just transition into what 207 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: we think our keys to victory are for the Packers 208 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: in this game. A couple things obviously that stick out 209 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: to me. The one that is most obvious is this 210 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: Packers offense has to find a way to get in 211 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 1: the end zone in the first half. I mean, it 212 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: has been since Week two since the Packers have scored 213 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: a touchdown in the first half. That needs to change 214 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: to put the Packers in a better position. Just one 215 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: touchdown in the first half. Somebody's got to find it. 216 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: They've got to put it together and do it to 217 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: just put themselves in a better position on the scoreboard 218 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: going into the second half, when by and large they 219 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 1: played some pretty decent offensive football. But the other thing 220 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: that sticks out to me with this is there's a 221 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: lot about this game from the defensive matchup for the 222 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: Packers against this Rams offense that strikes me as it 223 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: could be very similar to last week's game against the Vikings, 224 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: and that it's an offense that doesn't run the ball 225 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: that well. You know, their leading rusher is out. They're 226 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: trying to piece it together with the running game, but 227 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: they have a veteran quarterback who's been there, done that. 228 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 1: They have weapons in the passing game. If the Packers 229 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: stop the run like they did against the Vikings, I 230 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: think they're going to get the Rams in a lot 231 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: of third and seven plus and third and eight plus, 232 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: and the Packers defensively got killed in those situations last 233 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: week by Kirk Cousins. When they get in those situations 234 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: on Sunday, and I think they will, they have to 235 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: get the stops and get off the field when that 236 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: down and distance is supposed to favor you. The percentages 237 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: need to favor the Packers as well. 238 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 2: It's critical more than any other game Green Bays played 239 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 2: this season because, Mike, when you were talking about the 240 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 2: inability for the Rams to finish drives this season, it 241 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 2: hasn't been an issue of them kicking too many field 242 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 2: goals inside the red zone. The red zone offense is 243 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 2: actually in the top ten in the NFL. I think 244 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:07,959 Speaker 2: their goal to go is in the top five. When 245 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 2: they get down the field, they finish. It's been the 246 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 2: issue for them of getting stopped right around the fifty 247 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 2: yard line or so when they're working their way in. 248 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 2: It's why Maher missed as many forty plus and fifty 249 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 2: plus field goals as he did so for Green Bay. 250 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,719 Speaker 2: If you get this opportunity again, if you get them 251 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 2: in thirty and eight plus six seven times, you have 252 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 2: to be able to get out of the field. You 253 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 2: have to keep those percentages skewing in your direction. No 254 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 2: team in the National Football League has attempted more field 255 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 2: goals this year than the Rams. They're twenty five, lay 256 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 2: the league by four and unfortunately for them, they've missed 257 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 2: a handful of those as well. It's a rookie kicker 258 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 2: or whatever that's coming off a practice squad that is 259 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 2: the guy that has replaced Maher. They didn't sign Mason 260 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 2: Crosby after that workup. So for the Green Bay Packers, 261 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 2: standpoint getting off the field defensively and as you said, offensively, 262 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 2: we're gonna keep saying it until it changes. Might You 263 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 2: have to start faster, You have to find waste to 264 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 2: get going. The Green Bay Packers, on paper, have a 265 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 2: significant advantage with their ground game compared to the Rams. 266 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 2: I tip my cap to Henderson and Royce Freeman. These 267 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 2: guys have done it. They've done it at a high level. 268 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 2: Henderson has come out of nowhere to really be a 269 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 2: consistent playmaker for them the last three years, whether he's 270 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 2: been on the roster or not. Yeah, and you can't 271 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 2: allow them to get their footing. The Packers have to 272 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 2: be able to hold their ground like they did last week. 273 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 2: But conversely, whatever you have of Aaron Jones and obviously 274 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 2: have an AJ Dillon out there as well. The Green 275 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 2: Bay Packers have to be able to run the football. 276 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 2: You can't be in a situation where Aaron Jones or 277 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 2: where you should say, Jordan Love is going to be 278 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 2: in third and eight plus on his side of the ball. Yeah, 279 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 2: trying to make something happen. 280 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I mean, just to show you from the 281 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: you know, the defensive side of things. I think I 282 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: saw these numbers correctly, but just what, you know, one 283 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: rough day on third downs like the Packers had against 284 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: the Vikings can do. I believe just from one game, 285 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: the Packers went from ninth in the league in third 286 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: down defense to seventeenth. Yeah, with that one bad day, 287 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,559 Speaker 1: with allowing the Vikings to convert as many of those 288 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: third and longs as they did, and you just you 289 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: have to be able to get off the field in 290 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: those situations because and yes, both of these teams have 291 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: struggled to take the football away. But you know, I 292 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: thought one of the one of the key, one of 293 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: the key things we saw in last week's game against Minnesota. 294 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: The opening drive of the second half, the Packers are 295 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: down ten to three, the Vikings get the ball coming 296 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: out of halftime, and right away on the first series, 297 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: they're in third and nine and then the Packers give 298 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: it up. It's an explosive play. Suddenly the Vikings are 299 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: out to the fifty yard line, converting that early third down, 300 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: and then they end up finishing that drive with a touchdown. 301 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: And it's not even just that allowing that third and 302 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: nine led to a touchdown, but allowing that third and 303 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: nine flips the field. If you're not a defense that's 304 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: going to be able to take the ball away on 305 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: a consistent basis, then you have to win the field 306 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: position battle, which means if you get them in third 307 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: and nine back at their own twenty five yard line, 308 00:14:57,880 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: that's where you got to get the stop, because you 309 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: don't know if that opportunity is going to come up again. 310 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: And then even if it does, you stop them at 311 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: the fifty, they're going to punt you down to the ten, 312 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: and then you know your offense that's still trying to 313 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: find itself is in a tough spot having ninety yards 314 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: to go. All these kinds of things have been working 315 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: against the Packers, and the way that game went last week, 316 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: you can see exactly the things that need to change 317 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: this week. 318 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 2: And all things are not equal. If one thing happens, 319 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 2: there's always a butterfly effect on the rest of the game. 320 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 2: So I'm not going to ask so to be so 321 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 2: simplistic as well. If the Packers get a three and 322 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 2: out there at the start of the third quarter, how 323 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 2: does it change things? But I will say this, Yeah, 324 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 2: that two score lead or at that point, I guess 325 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 2: it was a three score lead that they ended up getting. 326 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 2: That changed the complexion of the football game because then 327 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 2: and now it's twenty four to ten, when the Packers 328 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 2: finally scored as opposed to seventeen ten. You don't know 329 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 2: then how if you get stopped, if you're kicking field goals, 330 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 2: if you're doing that kind of thing. It's when you 331 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 2: start to get that advantage, especially against a team like 332 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 2: the Vikings and Kirk Cousins, where they're going to use 333 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 2: those odds in their favor. Green Bay can't allow that 334 00:15:57,840 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 2: to happen. 335 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely well, we'll take care of a little sponsor 336 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: business here. Wes Sirius XMNFL Radio delivers hard hitting analysis 337 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: and up to the minute NFL news that true football 338 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: fanatics need. 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We found 346 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: out earlier this week West that the Packers Salute to 347 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: Service nominee for the twenty twenty three season is running 348 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: back Aaron Jones, and you wrote about it. You've written 349 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: about Jones and his the military background and his family 350 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: and all that. So tell us what Aaron said when 351 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: you told him in the locker room. Hey, dude, you're 352 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: the Salute to Service nominee. 353 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exciting moment there for Aaron Jones. Some people 354 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 2: get to open up boxes. Some people just have me 355 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 2: coming up to him being like, hey, can we talk 356 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 2: about the Slutive Service nomination. But that being said, I'll 357 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 2: tell you what, man, the guy's been a multiple time 358 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 2: Man of the Year nominee for them. He actually was 359 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 2: nominated for the Saluted Service Award previously for Green Bay 360 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 2: in twenty eighteen. A lot of great people involved in 361 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 2: this organization. T Bone, Tom Bachan in the equipment staff 362 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 2: has been up for at numerous times. Chris Gizzy, the 363 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 2: packer's strength and Conditioning coordinator, was the nominee two years ago. 364 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 2: A former service member. Obviously, we know the story with 365 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 2: him in September eleventh and his attachment to the Groom 366 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 2: mid Packers and an image that'll be forever associated with this franchise. 367 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 2: Darren College, You've done stories on just to quickly surmise 368 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 2: everything with Aaron, because I think it's very important. This 369 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 2: guy comes from a military background, his parents, Vergis and 370 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 2: Elvin Senior, both of them fifty six combined years of 371 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:54,360 Speaker 2: military service retarding retiring sergeant Majors in the Armed Forces, 372 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 2: and to be able to find ways to continually give 373 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 2: back has been such a huge thing for him and 374 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 2: Elvin Junior with the A and A All the Way Foundation, 375 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 2: such a cool thing to see him get recognized for 376 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 2: this again because of how much of a front facing 377 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 2: member of the organization he's been. In the Salute to 378 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 2: Service Month, he's been the spokesperson for a number of 379 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 2: the Packers' efforts the last few years, this year, even 380 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 2: earlier this week, both him and were just both talked 381 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 2: at the turnover there for the Huddle for Heroes events, 382 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 2: fifty six veterans all there. They're writing letters for service people, 383 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:29,199 Speaker 2: active duty service members. So many cool things associate with that. 384 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 2: So it's so neat to see Aaron get that, you know, recognition, 385 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 2: so deserving and honestly, I'm gonna tell you right now, 386 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 2: I'm actually really pushing. You know. We always have these 387 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,199 Speaker 2: efforts and you know, pushing and you know, wanting to 388 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 2: make sure that your guy wins. This is the year. 389 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 2: I would love to see this be the year for 390 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 2: Aaron because of everything that he does. And that's why 391 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 2: I wanted to take this time out is that you have, 392 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 2: you know, sponsorship business. This is the hot business over here. Okay, 393 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 2: just to remind fans because now with the Salute to Service, 394 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 2: you can vote and the opportunity to vote your favorite 395 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 2: nominee actually does help determine the three finalists which will 396 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 2: be decided on and voted upon. And recognize that the 397 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 2: NFL honors in February, and to do that just to 398 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 2: go to NFL dot com Forward slash Salute Fan Vote 399 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 2: now until November thirtieth, one vote per day is permitted 400 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 2: per fans. I encourage people to go check out that link. 401 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 2: There's a link in the story as well. If you 402 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 2: don't want to just go off of what I'm saying 403 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 2: right now, you can check that out on packers dot com. 404 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 2: But so excited for Aaron and an incredible thing and 405 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 2: hopefully see him be able to get that. It's not 406 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 2: just about oh he gets an award, it's you know, 407 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 2: money that gets donated two different branches of the military 408 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 2: in his name, and such a cool thing. I'd love 409 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 2: to see him get recognized in that way. Yeah. 410 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: What is that website at NFL dot com slash forward 411 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: slash Salute Fan Vote, Salute Fan Vote, NFL dot com 412 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: slash Salute Fan Vote. Yeah, cast your vote for Aaron Rodgers. 413 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:01,360 Speaker 1: It would be great to see him that. I'm sorry, yes, 414 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: Aaron Jones. Sorry, Hey, we do the show, Brain Brain 415 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: the brain locked there for a second. My bad with that. 416 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: Before we go, a quick glance at the week nine 417 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: slate in the NFL, and I tell you, Wes, there 418 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: are some really intriguing games out there. It starts actually 419 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: Sunday morning with the NFL's first game in Frankfurt, Germany. 420 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 1: The NFL has played in Germany in the past. I 421 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 1: believe this is the first game in Frankfurt Miami against 422 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: Kansas City. That one certainly stands out the other ones. 423 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: I'll just read these off to you as the as 424 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: the games that jumped out to me, and I'll let 425 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: you talk about whichever ones you want to. Seattle at 426 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 1: Baltimore one of those NFC versus AFC matchups that's really 427 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: intriguing with two teams that are off to uh to 428 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: darn good. Starts big time matchup in the NFC East 429 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: with Dallas at Philadelphia and then on Sunday Night football, 430 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 1: which hopefully, you know, we'll get home in time maybe 431 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 1: to catch the second half when we get all of 432 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: our coverage of Packers rams donn and on the site 433 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: and put to bed for Sunday. Buffalo is at Cincinnati 434 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: in prime time, and who knows, maybe we'll see former 435 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: Packer Rasul Douglas on the field for Buffalo. Maybe not. 436 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:21,239 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's going to play for them 437 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 1: right away. But that's an interesting one too, with the 438 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: Bills against the Bengals, a playoff rematch from last year, 439 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 1: with this one's in Cincinnati, but last year Cincinnati went 440 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: into Buffalo and ended the Bills season. So some really 441 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: interesting games coming up here in Week nine in the NFL. 442 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 2: I love what's building too at this twenty twenty draft class, 443 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 2: because you're getting these matchups now when like Josh Allen, 444 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 2: you know, taking on Joe Burrow again, and it almost 445 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 2: kind of reminds you like the Jim Kelly Dan Marino, 446 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 2: you know games back in the FC, where every single 447 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 2: one of them felt like they're really high stakes. Credit 448 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 2: to Zach Taylor, I mean, they the I think everyone 449 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,360 Speaker 2: understood the Bengals were gonna be good this year. Having 450 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 2: to deal with some early season adversity, both injury wise 451 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 2: at Burrow, but then also with the results on field, 452 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 2: they've kind of rallied back. Bills have been kind of 453 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 2: teetering on both sides of it, but have been really 454 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 2: solid once again, always teemed to be not to be 455 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 2: trifled with. I am really excited to see what the 456 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 2: Cowboys do against the Eagles, though, I think that's probably 457 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,719 Speaker 2: the main the marquee matchup for me this week. Just 458 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 2: from the standpoint of the Eagles are winning football games, 459 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 2: and they find ways to win football games. And as 460 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 2: we talked about earlier this week, Nick Sirianni just is 461 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 2: always thinking one step ahead right now, and he has 462 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 2: the talent and the ability to be able to maximize that. 463 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 2: The Cowboys have to be feeling pretty good about themselves 464 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 2: with the way that they handle the Rams, but they're 465 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 2: still kind of looking for that signature win. And then Mike, 466 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 2: I mean, just let's say it. I mean, the Vikings 467 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 2: have a pivotal game coming up against the Atlanta Falcons, 468 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 2: a game in which you know there's gonna be backup. 469 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: Quarterbacks, right, two backup quarterbacks, and that one with the Falcons, 470 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: you know, benching Desmond Ritter and turning to Taylor Heineke 471 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: has plenty of experience in the NFL. And then the 472 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 1: Vikings are turning to Jalen Hall with I think the 473 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: guy the Vikings want to go to in Kirk cousins absence, 474 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: is on injured reserve. They're waiting for Nick Mullins to 475 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,199 Speaker 1: get healthy to be able to take over that offense, 476 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 1: but they have to go with Jalen Hall for now 477 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: to try to get themselves above five hundred. 478 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, Josh Dobbs getting brought in there to try to 479 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 2: help that situation. I mean, this is a real pickle 480 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 2: for the Vikings because you're on this winning streak and 481 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 2: you're feeling so good about yourself and then you lose 482 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 2: the guy that was pretty much the catalyst for all this. 483 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, you've won four your last five after an zero 484 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: to three start, but now all of a sudden, it's 485 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 1: you're kind of back to square one because you lost 486 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 1: your quarterback. 487 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 2: And then yeah, Miami in Kansas City, I mean, everybody's 488 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 2: had that kind of It's a weird thing because the 489 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 2: Chiefs are kind of working through some stuff right now, 490 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 2: but at the same time, the Dolphins are kind of 491 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 2: like in that Cowboys standpoint where they're still looking for 492 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 2: like a big marquee win, and certainly Kansas City would qualify. 493 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 2: Is that if it would work out that way? 494 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it just looks to me like, you know, I mean, 495 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: if if you know this Kansas City Miami game could 496 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 1: have you know, I think both of those teams are 497 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: going to end up in the playoffs when this is 498 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 1: all said and done. But the winner of that game, 499 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: you know that that this game could have big implications 500 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 1: in terms of playoff seeding down the line obviously Dallas 501 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: and Philadelphia. If if, if the Cowboys don't beat the Eagles, 502 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: the Eagles are you know, really sitting in the catbird 503 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 1: seat as far as the division. If if the Cowboys 504 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 1: want to have a you know, realistic chance of taking 505 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 1: that division from the Eagles, I think they have to 506 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: go into Philadelphia and and and win this game at 507 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: Lincoln Financial. And then, as I said, Buffalo and Cincinnati 508 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: is a is a playoff rematch from last year. Cincinnati, 509 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: Cincinnati is you know, seems to be finding itself, Buffalo 510 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 1: still having you know, some ups and downs. But again 511 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 1: another game that you know, two teams that you think 512 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: are you know, gonna have a pretty good chance of 513 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,360 Speaker 1: being in the playoffs. And this is one of those 514 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 1: results that could that could have an impact on the 515 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: on the seating and the order of things. 516 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 2: Come January and the complete opposite of what happened for 517 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 2: so many years right now at the AFC East where 518 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 2: it was always the Patriots and then okay, can anybody 519 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 2: else make a wildcard run here? Well, now you got Miami, 520 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 2: who again its strength of victories this year is two 521 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 2: eighty three, but you're still winning football game. 522 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: Went, they're winning the games that they're supposed to win. 523 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 2: And Buffalo, and then you have the Jets. You're going 524 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 2: to be hosting the Chargers, who always feel like the 525 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 2: Chargers are in primetime every week to meet for so 526 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 2: whatever reason. 527 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, they got they got paid, they got pegged for 528 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: a lot of for a lot of primetime games with 529 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert and you know, Joey Bosa, Khalil Mack. Obviously 530 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 1: we'll be talking about them in a couple of weeks 531 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: here because they'll be coming into lambeau Field. Not for 532 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 1: a primetime game, but you're right, the Chargers seem to 533 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 1: be playing under the lights quite a bit this year. 534 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then the Jets. I mean, nobody's underdog at 535 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 2: four and two or four and three right now. So yeah, 536 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 2: a lot of interesting ball. Hopefully the Green Bay Packers 537 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 2: get back in the wins the wind column this weekend 538 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 2: and we could start talking about some NFC North outcomes again. 539 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 2: But yeah, certainly for the NFL big week this week with. 540 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, Packers looking to to end that four game 541 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: losing street, get back in the win column and see 542 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: if they can have something to build on with that, 543 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: we'll call it a rap on this edition of Packers 544 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: on Script. To be sure to follow all of our 545 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: coverage of the team on Packers dot com. We'll have 546 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: all of the coverage of Sunday's game from Lambeufield again, 547 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: a noon Central time kickoff Packers in the Rams right 548 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,360 Speaker 1: here in Green Bay for Wes. I am like, thank 549 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: you for tuning in. Everybody. We will see you next time.