WEBVTT - Are We Out of the Woods? 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:07.240 It's nine Ogengine with Jenny Garth and Tory spelling. 0:00:09.680 --> 0:00:15.000 Okay, flirting with disaster. I feel like this is like 0:00:15.040 --> 0:00:20.080 a tagline in my entire life, but this episode we're 0:00:20.280 --> 0:00:24.880 about to embark on it is called flirting with disaster. 0:00:25.680 --> 0:00:30.080 Here we are nine O two one, OMG. Welcome good, 0:00:30.120 --> 0:00:35.440 Tory doing good. So guys, Jenny's off ye and sometimes 0:00:35.560 --> 0:00:38.400 Jenny does like the business, so Tory has to take 0:00:38.400 --> 0:00:40.720 it over today and you're doing good. Thank you. And 0:00:41.080 --> 0:00:44.080 you know, like Jen and I are yin and yang 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:46.360 when it comes to that, like you know, she's you know, 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:51.160 does buy the book, the procedural business stuff our whole 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:55.720 relationship for thirty plus years. And I'm very you know, 0:00:55.840 --> 0:00:57.960 fly by the seat of my pants. You know, I'm 0:00:58.040 --> 0:01:02.160 the creative and like we it. So yeah, I'm going 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:02.800 to do the business sto. 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:05.000 Which is which is funny because our producer Lorraine was 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:07.680 talking to us before we start talking to you guys, 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:10.119 and she's like trying to go over something, and I go, 0:01:10.520 --> 0:01:13.520 We'll just swing it because it's like you and me, 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:16.319 we can just wing it, wing it. I like, because 0:01:16.319 --> 0:01:18.600 I have an idea because Lorink tossed in a side 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:21.520 tossed an idea out to us last week when Jenny 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:25.920 was here, and I think this episode is perfect for it. 0:01:26.520 --> 0:01:31.000 Here's my question for you. I like this episode a lot, right, 0:01:31.160 --> 0:01:33.880 I really do. We can dig into it what I 0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:36.959 am noticing about this season, especially since I think Jason 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:39.440 kind of became more in the producer role and I 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:42.840 feel like he really was a producer, not just in 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:43.440 the credits. 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:43.759 Right. 0:01:44.120 --> 0:01:46.920 Agreed, there are three unique storylines. And you know how 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:48.640 we used to talk about like an A storyline, of 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:52.000 B storyline, a C storyline. Yes, this feels to me 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:57.640 like we have an AAA. Three storylines, all major storylines, 0:01:58.040 --> 0:02:03.280 all equal in like length and importance, and totally disconnected 0:02:03.320 --> 0:02:07.520 from one another. The three storylines have nothing to do 0:02:07.600 --> 0:02:10.119 with each other whatsoever. 0:02:10.880 --> 0:02:17.680 Yet all three of them are quite literally flirting with disaster. 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:22.000 They're juicy. All three stories. Well, the camping line is 0:02:22.040 --> 0:02:25.320 the comic relief. We'll talk about that. The three storylines 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:30.000 are all important, good big storylines. They're all equal. 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:31.720 Yes, where it used. 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:33.639 To be like there would be the A storyline and 0:02:33.680 --> 0:02:37.280 the other two were sort of smaller. I think there's 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:40.560 been a pivot in the sea this season that you 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:44.600 have these three things going on at the same time, 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:47.080 but they're not connected. Like, think about it. You do 0:02:47.160 --> 0:02:50.440 not have any scenes in this episode with anyone other 0:02:50.480 --> 0:02:51.480 than the camping people. 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:54.240 This is true. 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:58.560 Jenny only has scenes as Kelly with Brian and then 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:03.640 to the doctor and the you know, Tera Tara. Then 0:03:04.680 --> 0:03:09.080 Tiffany only has her scenes with Colin Colan and his dad, 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:12.840 Like the three things are completely disconnected. 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:18.359 We used to call that like block shooting. So someone 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:22.799 got real smart here and divvied it up where they 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:28.440 probably quite literally shot them in sequence, like all these 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:30.680 days we shoot the camping all these days. You know. 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:34.920 Yeah, that's totally makes sense and then cost effective. We've 0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:37.160 got so much to talk about, so so what we're. 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:41.800 Talking about is season six, episode twenty six, called Flirting 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:48.360 with Disaster, aired April third, Jen's Birthday, nineteen ninety six. Synopsis. 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:50.880 Kelly Taylor is ready to take things to the next 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:55.640 level with medical resident not doctor Greg until Tara. Tara 0:03:55.840 --> 0:04:00.000 takes matters into her own hands. Colon Colin's dad is 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:03.480 back in town, but the Vietnam Vet doesn't exactly get 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:07.119 a warm welcome from his estrange son. Meanwhile, the rest 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:10.960 of the gang head to the Great Outdoors for spring break, 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:20.560 where some cute, hm questionable Canadian girls campers come between 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:21.279 the couples. 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:25.960 Directed by David Semmel and written by John Eisendrath. Okay, 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:29.880 my first question for you overall, do you like this episode? 0:04:30.080 --> 0:04:31.640 I do? 0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:34.960 Do you have a favorite of the three storylines? I 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:37.520 do sort of hooked you in the most, Oh I do. 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:43.480 Oh gosh, well, taking myself out of it, but keeping 0:04:43.480 --> 0:04:48.280 myself in the camping storyline actually was my least favorite. 0:04:48.480 --> 0:04:50.840 Yeah, yeah, I agree. I agree because it's just we'll 0:04:50.839 --> 0:04:53.480 talk about it. It's just sort of very random. It 0:04:53.520 --> 0:04:54.040 was silly. 0:04:54.720 --> 0:05:02.600 The Colon Valerie storyline, I loved it. I actually writing 0:05:02.680 --> 0:05:07.560 the acting as well acted. I know no one's gonna 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:10.120 want to hear this, but I was like, ooh, I 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:12.680 kind of like Valerie and Colon together. 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:16.360 I agree with you. Also, like, okay, two birds of 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:19.800 a feather. I mean, there are two just dysfunctional, sort 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:25.960 of disregulated messes that should be together. They always should 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:27.520 have been together, do you know what I mean? Like, 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:31.480 I never thought, I never I don't get Kelly and him. 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:35.960 He seems much better suited to her, and she's she's 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:40.360 very motherly and caretaking with him, and she was quite 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:42.920 good with the dad. Okay, let's get into it. Let's 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:46.240 get into Okay, So I'm thinking for today, we're gonna 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:48.240 try something new and everyone can tell us if they 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:50.359 hate it or if they like it. Let's talk about 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:54.400 each storyline individually. And I stole this idea from Lorraine. 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:56.640 Because the three well our favorite. 0:05:56.800 --> 0:05:58.800 Let's start with the one we started with. Let's talk 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:02.480 about Colon and Valor. Okay, so we've heard brief mentions 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:05.479 of the dad, so he shows up. You realize there's 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:09.560 sort of this very caustic relationship with tons of drama 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:12.800 from the past, like he wasn't a good father. Obviously, 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:15.359 this is half of why Colin has so many issues. 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:19.080 Valerie is sort of trying to blend them together. What 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:20.480 are your thoughts on the whole thing. 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:28.599 I actually felt for Colin for the first time. I've 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:31.440 never seen him this raw. Maybe they hadn't written towards 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:34.880 it before. You know, he was supposed to be you know, 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:40.760 toxic before, and now he's actually vulnerable. And I wasn't 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:44.920 mad that I was learning new stuff about someone who 0:06:45.000 --> 0:06:47.960 wasn't a regular like I actually was drawn in. 0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:53.120 Well, that's interesting, Like I felt. 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:57.320 For this guy. Okay, So Mike Jenevie's played Graham Robbins. 0:06:57.560 --> 0:06:58.680 I knew he was familiar. 0:06:59.200 --> 0:06:59.920 He was great. 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:02.480 He's done a ton of stuff, like he's kind of 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:04.440 like that actor that does an episode of this, an 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:08.400 episode of The Practice, an episode of you know, judging Amy, 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:12.560 an episode of this, this, this, He's been in everything. 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:16.600 I wonder if he had worked with my dad before. 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:21.400 My dad always loyal, loved working with actors La Law. 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:25.360 Before this, he'd done Star Trek, Deep Space nine, he 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:28.920 Quantum Leap. He was not blind in real life, okay, 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:33.520 which I kind of suspected same same because back then 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:39.160 they weren't as you know, good about hiring actors that 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:43.720 were what the part is correct, that's kind of changed 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:46.880 as time has gone on. But I mean so many 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:51.200 things like family matters, like oh, he did seventeen episodes 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:54.960 of The Flash, the old series of the nineties. WHOA. 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:57.320 But he's so familiar and you knew it right when 0:07:57.360 --> 0:08:00.840 he came in. So he's obviously like an excellent actor 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:03.880 and he was believable. 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:07.520 Believable, very seasoned, very Yeah. 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:11.800 What was the scene where where Colin and Valerie are 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:14.760 sitting on the counter like having a glass of wine? 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:17.720 Are you directed to do that? Or is that a 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:20.240 call they made up on the counter. 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:24.600 It could go either way. David Simmeel directed this episode. 0:08:24.640 --> 0:08:28.640 He originally kind of was in charge of all of 0:08:28.680 --> 0:08:34.360 our like the sound and editing on that level, and 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:37.160 then came in and started directing, and to this day 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:41.040 is like a great established director. But he was kind 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:45.360 of someone we were really good friends with. Okay, very cool, 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:48.679 and it could have gone either way, but we loved 0:08:48.840 --> 0:08:50.160 working with David. 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:54.040 Simmel's interesting is it seemed like a Jason Priestley directed episode. 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:56.479 I was going to say that to you, yes. 0:08:57.200 --> 0:09:01.520 Because the camping especially, it was so him. 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:05.800 Very and I feel like David and Jason have similar 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:11.920 styles and sensibilities, especially with humor. And I'm sure because 0:09:12.000 --> 0:09:14.920 Jason's so close with David, they probably work that out. 0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:17.360 All the guys were like, let's do this, Let's do that. Great, 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:21.960 great great. I was wondering, though, so Colin, is he 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:24.680 just not a coke addict anymore? Is it okay that 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:25.559 he drinks? 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:28.439 He thought the same exact thing I thought, Suddenly he 0:09:28.559 --> 0:09:32.520 just doesn't do anymore? But he's drinking like he shouldn't 0:09:32.520 --> 0:09:33.960 even be what, Like. 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:37.160 So is he an addict? 0:09:37.440 --> 0:09:37.720 Is he? 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:38.439 Yes? 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:41.320 But I guess he's just fine now. I mean, it's 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:46.439 just crazy. That whole thing is so crazy because I mean, 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:49.640 we'll get into it in the Terra Tara storyline too, 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:53.880 But anyway, so there's sort of this like drama with 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:57.719 the dad and there's almost that sort of like physical altercation. 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:00.600 And then what did you think when Valerie says, like, 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:02.959 if you don't stop him, I'm going to. 0:10:03.480 --> 0:10:07.800 I liked it because I like how she he listens 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:11.480 to her. He didn't listen to Kelly. I want to 0:10:11.520 --> 0:10:15.760 say he good point, beects Valerie. He didn't respect Kelly. 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:16.320 Is that true? 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:19.760 Also a good point? Yeah, she sort of has the 0:10:19.840 --> 0:10:21.800 upper hand for multiple reasons. I feel like she has 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:26.200 the upper hand minus the money, but she's also the money. True. 0:10:26.640 --> 0:10:29.880 There's just a dichotomy and a chemistry between them that 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:34.800 really works for me. I believe it. I feel like 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:37.840 it's more of an equal playing field. And maybe it's 0:10:37.840 --> 0:10:41.040 because we have so much invested in Kelly for so 0:10:41.200 --> 0:10:43.280 long that we're like no, no, no, don't be with him, 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:45.680 And with Valerie, we're like, oh yeah, be with him. 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:49.480 They seem like a more realistic couple for sure, and 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:54.800 she does mother him a bit, but he listens to her. 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:58.280 I mean, I even like she's cooking, she's she's making 0:10:58.280 --> 0:10:59.400 the dinner for the dad. 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:00.280 You know. 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:03.360 She the dad obviously is a drinking sort of issue. Also, 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:06.480 there's a lot of it's abuse with these females, but 0:11:07.960 --> 0:11:09.960 she's very care of taking and she really wants them 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:13.119 to work it out. Now again, we went from volatile 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:18.480 to a rainbow unicorns and rainbows a tad too quickly, 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:23.240 you know, and suddenly like Colin has that line where 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:25.800 he's like he may be blind, but he taught me 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:30.560 to see. And it's just like, oh my god. 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:33.679 Yeah, I know it was sappy, but I was. I 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:35.880 was so there for the ride the whole time that 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:42.600 when it happened, I actually was like, wait, can we 0:11:42.600 --> 0:11:44.760 go back to what you were saying. When you were 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:49.600 saying like they have that altercation that that was That 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:53.280 was interesting for me because it's so hard with men 0:11:53.400 --> 0:11:57.160 and their fathers because I feel like that's not typically 0:11:57.200 --> 0:12:00.360 a female thing, but men testosterone. You know, you start 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:03.679 with these little boys that you're holding and teaching them, 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:06.160 you know, swing their first bat and doing a ride 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:08.560 a bike, and then all of a sudden they grow 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:12.839 into men and they're more of your equal and strength. 0:12:13.520 --> 0:12:19.560 And seeing a father and son two men like go 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:23.440 at it. I was taken aback, but I was like, 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:28.280 is this common? Is there a point? Not with everyone? 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:31.120 But I often wonder do boys kind of you know, 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:33.200 keep your cool, keep it your cool. It's their dad. 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:35.800 They look up to them, and then physically they don't 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:39.200 have to look up to them anymore. And do they 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:44.120 ever get to like clashing and like going at each other. 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:46.640 Common as they sort of you know, like you don't 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:51.360 see Jim Walsh and a Brandon doing that? Okay, now, 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:55.200 fair fair, But I think maybe with these it's very stereotypical, 0:12:55.240 --> 0:12:59.160 like a TV thing, like the caustic relationship and the 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:03.280 the drama you know between the two and it goes 0:13:03.320 --> 0:13:07.200 to blows and then they've worked it out thanks to Valerie. 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:10.679 That being said, I enjoyed that whole storyline, Like, I 0:13:11.080 --> 0:13:14.160 liked it. It's kind of far fetched and ridiculous at parts, but. 0:13:14.600 --> 0:13:18.640 I really yeah, it made me think, like, what's going 0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:22.240 to happen with these two? Now? Maybe I don't want 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:23.800 him to leave. I don't know. 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:26.280 Yeah, I mean, I right, I get it. 0:13:26.280 --> 0:13:28.400 It was the first time I liked call him, that's all. 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:33.199 I can't say I like him, but yeah, like fine engaging. 0:13:33.280 --> 0:13:35.679 I mean, no, you can like him. People do. But 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:39.760 it was like, you know, it's an interesting we're moving 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:55.640 that storyline along, Okay, Yeah, let's move over to Taratara. Right, 0:13:56.400 --> 0:14:01.800 she's getting unhinged real fast, a little too fast, like 0:14:02.080 --> 0:14:05.040 really really fast, a little too fast. I totally agree. 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:09.280 She's gone full throttle cray in a blink of an eye. Now, 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:12.440 I thought this, and then it was interesting as I 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:15.439 was like looking up trivia from this episode. I love 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:20.320 that she's ordered to somewhat expensive bouquet of flowers and 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:23.840 she has no money. How did she pay for those? 0:14:24.320 --> 0:14:27.120 That was the one thing that stood out to me, 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:34.520 aside from why is Colin drinking? Is the addict? You know? Longer? Yeah? Yeah, 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:37.120 she'd be on the streets if Kelly and take her in. 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:40.720 She has no money too, very expensive arrangements. 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:45.000 How I'm slightly frustrated because you know, like I say 0:14:45.000 --> 0:14:48.960 this sometimes in another show we do. It's a little 0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:51.880 bit of a Three's Company episode to me, when it's like, oh, 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:55.640 she's done this, and now now the doctor won't talk 0:14:55.680 --> 0:14:59.160 to Kelly because of this, and it's just like, oh God, 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:02.360 can these people just it's not a plot? I like, right, 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:05.200 I find it's so frustrating, and maybe I'm supposed to, 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:10.000 but like, if just the doctor and Kelly spoke, then 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:12.840 we could resolve all this and realize that Tara Tar 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:17.720 is crazy faster whatever. So okay, so we go to 0:15:17.800 --> 0:15:20.560 the beginning and she's she's real crazy right from the start. 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:24.200 So you know what I didn't like. I didn't like 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:28.720 that last week's episode, we on their storyline went out 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:32.160 with Kelly and him kissing on the deck. So for me, 0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:35.320 when we came boom right back into that, I thought 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:38.840 it was maybe the same night and it was a continuation, 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:40.760 but it wasn't. It was another no. 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:44.480 Correct. I think it's I think we're sort of supposed 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:47.880 to assume that they are kind of casually seeing each 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:51.040 other regularly. It hasn't gotten too hot and heavy yet, 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:55.640 and we see her just right from the start getting 0:15:55.720 --> 0:16:01.080 really psycho like. And forgive us for the use of 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:04.840 the lingo, like we well, we're just gonna use the 0:16:04.840 --> 0:16:07.400 words that come but we don't. We're not trying to 0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:11.720 like actually judge her mental illness. So you know, she's 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:13.640 doing that voice. I can't remember if this is this 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:16.200 episode or the one before. Oh yeah, I'm Jelly Taylor. 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:21.720 Yeah. Did you think she did a good job imitating Kelly? 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:27.680 Yeah? Yeah. So it's getting disturbing right like right away, 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:30.120 they're really like amping this up. 0:16:30.520 --> 0:16:32.320 Well, her bangs are disturbing to me. 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:35.600 But because the hairtag's coming soon, we're gonna get that weird. 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:40.640 So you know, she's sort of manipulating the situation. And 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:43.320 then she plays the like, oh, David doesn't want to 0:16:43.360 --> 0:16:46.320 go with me, but Kelly makes him and the whole thing, 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:49.480 and like, did you notice how she touches the doctor 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:52.560 when she's gonna be his partner in the bowling? And 0:16:52.600 --> 0:16:56.080 you could see he did good acting of like I'm uncomfortable, 0:16:56.120 --> 0:16:59.200 but I'm I'm gonna act like I'm not uncomfortable. She 0:16:59.400 --> 0:17:02.880 really liked him, and then it's just when she pulls 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:05.840 him aside and like, oh, Kelly really likes you, but 0:17:06.240 --> 0:17:09.360 she's gonna, you know, go off the rails, and you're 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:11.160 just like, oh my god. 0:17:12.800 --> 0:17:15.040 Let's go back. Though, I got to say at the 0:17:15.040 --> 0:17:22.159 peach Pit. I'm still you know, I'm still upset that Kelly. 0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:26.040 I feel like she brought this girl into her house. 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:30.000 She's her caretaker, she chose this. But she's like going 0:17:30.000 --> 0:17:34.000 out with Greg every night and the medical student not 0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:37.840 doctor and uh And Tara's like, well, I don't want 0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:39.800 to be a third wheel. I'm like, duh, who does? 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:45.280 And you're a recovering addict and you're just that. And 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:49.000 then also when Kelly asked David to be her date, 0:17:49.600 --> 0:17:52.840 I was like, no, just say like, hey, David's coming, 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:55.120 You're not a third wheel. We're all going as friends. 0:17:55.280 --> 0:18:02.080 Why say that? But if that had further plug Tera Tara, Like. 0:18:02.520 --> 0:18:05.000 I think she just doesn't know that Tara. Tara is 0:18:05.320 --> 0:18:08.080 getting unhinged. I think she thinks she's just kind of like, 0:18:09.000 --> 0:18:11.159 you know, a girl from the streets, doesn't have a 0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:13.600 lot of money, doesn't have friends, doesn't have family, who 0:18:13.680 --> 0:18:20.520 was an addict. But I don't think Kelly realizes how 0:18:20.800 --> 0:18:23.679 unwell she is. But that being said, it's like the 0:18:23.720 --> 0:18:24.320 whole thing. 0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:26.240 Is a rehab. 0:18:26.280 --> 0:18:29.240 You're not third It's like the doctor dating the patient. 0:18:29.680 --> 0:18:33.159 The patient has had another patient home with them. 0:18:33.520 --> 0:18:36.600 It's just all doesn't think they talk to them while 0:18:36.640 --> 0:18:41.320 they were there about you know, find yourself after this. 0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:45.880 It's not you know, don't go jump into new relationships romantic. 0:18:45.960 --> 0:18:49.840 So Kelly has heard this and she's still saying a date. 0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:52.600 I don't know, it doesn't matter. I mean, Tera Tar 0:18:52.760 --> 0:18:56.080 is too far. Nothing Kelly could say or do would 0:18:56.480 --> 0:18:57.480 stop the madness. 0:18:57.840 --> 0:19:02.879 And you're just seeing her like Tara, Tara with the 0:19:02.960 --> 0:19:07.280 dagger eyes right like staring at them, and then she's 0:19:07.560 --> 0:19:11.080 so thrilled when he breaks it off with her. I 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:14.199 mean just like, it's so creepy. She's so thrilled, and 0:19:14.200 --> 0:19:19.040 then she does the like evil flower trick. Although, can 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:21.480 we talk about Kelly's blue suit for going to the 0:19:22.119 --> 0:19:24.400 That was crazy? That was nuts. 0:19:24.680 --> 0:19:27.120 It is the season of the suit though, I'm. 0:19:26.920 --> 0:19:29.720 Just like, were we all? I was not wearing suits 0:19:29.760 --> 0:19:33.240 in the nineties like that, when I was twenty whatever whatever. 0:19:33.359 --> 0:19:36.520 She was very dressed up for the you know, doctor's 0:19:36.560 --> 0:19:38.240 appointment with the like white pumps. 0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:40.359 The whole thing was like, but I was very into 0:19:40.359 --> 0:19:41.760 her outfit on the bowling. 0:19:41.480 --> 0:19:43.240 Tea, Yeah that was more casual and cute. 0:19:43.320 --> 0:19:43.920 Yeah it was cute. 0:19:43.960 --> 0:19:47.280 Yeah, Taratar actually looked cute. Yeah, and they all were 0:19:47.280 --> 0:19:51.119 getting along. The thing that I found totally unrealistic is 0:19:51.160 --> 0:19:54.200 that the doctor would have come out. He's not gonna 0:19:54.280 --> 0:19:57.520 just take the flowers that say I don't want to 0:19:57.520 --> 0:20:00.760 see you, and then she comes. He's gonna come just 0:20:00.800 --> 0:20:03.680 as the nice guy that he is. Yes, and also 0:20:03.720 --> 0:20:06.280 that he's a doctor. Can you imagine she goes and says, 0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:11.000 like to some other doctor, Hey, this doctor started dating me, 0:20:11.400 --> 0:20:13.240 and now he won't even speak to me, like he 0:20:13.280 --> 0:20:15.679 doesn't know. There's no way he's not coming out. He 0:20:15.680 --> 0:20:18.000 would have come out. It's just so just to. 0:20:17.920 --> 0:20:20.359 Save his own butt. You're right, can't call him a 0:20:20.400 --> 0:20:21.600 doctor medical. 0:20:22.200 --> 0:20:24.800 I think if you're a resident, you're a doctor. He 0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:26.560 is a doctor. That's why the whole thing is so 0:20:26.600 --> 0:20:29.040 inappropriate or whatever, like. 0:20:29.680 --> 0:20:33.240 But why is he taking Tara? Tara's word? Then he 0:20:33.400 --> 0:20:37.399 knows an addict's mentality, He's been there. This is. 0:20:38.920 --> 0:20:41.320 Ultimately, even in her crazy way, she makes a good 0:20:41.359 --> 0:20:44.560 point like they probably shouldn't have been dating fair, but 0:20:45.720 --> 0:20:50.840 it's like exactly, and he sort of does, but like 0:20:51.560 --> 0:20:55.679 he should say, Bara said, blah blah blah, like whatever. 0:20:55.760 --> 0:20:57.800 It just drives me crazy that they're all paying so 0:20:58.040 --> 0:21:03.320 much attention to terror when you're like, I don't know 0:21:03.359 --> 0:21:03.679 about that. 0:21:04.240 --> 0:21:07.800 Everyone's trusting her, You're right, for no good reason. 0:21:08.200 --> 0:21:10.200 Right, They're all just like listening to her, like she's 0:21:10.240 --> 0:21:15.520 not an addict and you know she's got issues. So anyway, 0:21:15.520 --> 0:21:19.800 we're leveling that up quickly, right, Like, I can't remember 0:21:19.840 --> 0:21:22.680 where we left off of the in the episode with her, 0:21:23.119 --> 0:21:27.880 it's like she's super happy he won't see her. She's 0:21:27.960 --> 0:21:29.480 thrilled about it. 0:21:29.520 --> 0:21:32.560 Just clever of the game on Wow. 0:21:32.720 --> 0:21:34.280 First of all, that's what I was going to say too. 0:21:34.320 --> 0:21:38.440 I just don't see that she would be smart enough 0:21:39.240 --> 0:21:43.400 for that. But why, I don't know why. I guess 0:21:43.760 --> 0:21:48.040 why is she so evil? We don't know that in 0:21:48.119 --> 0:21:49.440 her background yet? 0:21:49.880 --> 0:21:52.280 Right do we find out I don't remember. 0:21:52.560 --> 0:21:55.359 I can't remember. If we find out why she became 0:21:55.520 --> 0:21:59.960 so crazy, she becomes more crazy. 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