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Speaker 1: Hey, Fanaritos, Welcome back to how Rude Tanner Ritos, and

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Speaker 1: boy do we have a very special guest on the

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Speaker 1: podcast today. Lydia Cornell played the gorgeous Spanish teacher Senorita Mosley,

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Speaker 1: who famously locked lips with Danny Tanner in the season

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Speaker 1: two episode El Problema Grande de dj But the word

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Speaker 1: actress doesn't nearly capture all of the facets.

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Speaker 2: Of her extraordinary life.

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Speaker 1: She is not just the beauty who is best known

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Speaker 1: for her role as the younger sister Sarah on the

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Speaker 1: nineteen eighty sitcom Too Close for Comfort. She is a

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Speaker 1: woman and children's advocate, an international public speaker on recovery

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Speaker 1: with twenty nine years of sobriety, a lecturer at the

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Speaker 1: LMU School of Film and Television, and a prolific writer

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Speaker 1: who has been invited to share her writings with the

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Speaker 1: International Museum of Peace. She also hosts a podcast called Godshots,

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Speaker 1: which explores mental health through the true stories of life's

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Speaker 1: uncanny coincidences. To say we are in awe of Lydia

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Speaker 1: before we even sit down to chat with her is

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Speaker 1: an understatement. Faner Ritos, please welcome the extraordinarily inspirational Lydia Cornell.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, it's so wonderful to see you.

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Speaker 3: I like, I'm so excited that you're on the show,

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Speaker 3: and I just can't I can't thank you enough for

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Speaker 3: doing this.

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Speaker 2: And also like, you're just a badass, may I say?

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Speaker 3: Like, And we keep finding out that we grew up

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Speaker 3: surrounded and interacting with people who are absolute legends. Oh

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Speaker 3: and you are definitely one of them. So you're so

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Speaker 3: no truly, we so wanted to have you.

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Speaker 2: On the show.

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Speaker 3: And I just have to say I was a fan

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Speaker 3: of Too Close to for Comfort as a kid, and

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Speaker 3: I never somehow realized. I think maybe because I didn't

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Speaker 3: really have scenes with you that, like you were the

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Speaker 3: teacher and the Yeah, anyway, big fan, love it.

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Speaker 2: You're a puge.

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Speaker 4: Your care because of his voice is really bizarre.

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Speaker 2: Never anyway, no, no, no, no worries.

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Speaker 4: Not only that way.

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Speaker 3: You should have heard us last week. She was Andrea

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Speaker 3: was sick, I had allergies. It sounded like we were

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Speaker 3: like the two old muppets, the two like old men

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Speaker 3: in the balcony, Like we love you guys.

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Speaker 1: You guys are so sweet cool, Thank you, You're so

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Speaker 1: sweet for doing this and the more we find out,

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Speaker 1: like we just it's like peeling an onion. We just

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Speaker 1: keep finding out more and more cool facts about you,

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Speaker 1: and we're like, oh, we could get her on the show.

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Speaker 2: Be so cool.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm very very excited.

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Speaker 4: I had no idea even you know.

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Speaker 5: I just think about how beautiful the show was, and

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Speaker 5: when Bob Saggett died, I was devastated because I've known

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Speaker 5: him forever.

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Speaker 3: Well, Lydia, welcome to the show. We are so excited

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Speaker 3: to have you on. Senorita Mosley. Yes, Ola, I can

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Speaker 3: understand it, but I can't speak it.

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Speaker 2: That I can read it. Great, if you could write

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Speaker 2: that down for me, I'll let you know. Abe, you're

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Speaker 2: going to take a crack at.

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Speaker 1: This that now we know how you got the gig

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Speaker 1: and Senorita Mosley, it's fantastic.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 5: I'm old friends with Jeff Franklin from years ago from

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Speaker 5: the garage. Yeah, and then he said you you speak Spanish, right,

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Speaker 5: because I do. I like to show up my Spanish.

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Speaker 4: Wherever I go.

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Speaker 3: It's like I wish I paid more attention and spoke

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Speaker 3: makes sense, So yeah, we'd love to like.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's so much to dig into.

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Speaker 3: With who you are, your history, you're acting, you're you're

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Speaker 3: you're speaking, you're writing like you're just you're it's you're

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Speaker 3: really really talented. And I hope people no, it's true,

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Speaker 3: Like I women in this business who really do a

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Speaker 4: You make me want to cry.

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Speaker 5: I'm serious, I just got tears in my eyes because

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Speaker 5: I want to encourage younger people to please stet to

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Speaker 5: their dreams and don't let anything ever stop you if

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Speaker 5: you believe in yourself. But you have to start believing

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Speaker 5: in yourself. A lot of women don't. That was my

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're taught to doubt ourselves a lot. And I

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Speaker 3: Something happens, I think, particularly for women around mid age forties,

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Speaker 3: all of a sudden you kind of start going, I wait,

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Speaker 2: Else like this is there's a freaking.

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Speaker 3: I am a different I am a different woman, and

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Speaker 3: so I love when and I love to see women

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Speaker 3: mentoring younger women. You know, we're so often taught that, like,

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Speaker 3: find that to be true. Once we all get to

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Speaker 5: Yeah, oh gosh, I can't say I love collaboration and

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Speaker 5: not competition. We're all yanique. We all love unique gifts

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Speaker 5: and to really spend each day in gratitude and joy.

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Speaker 4: It's hard.

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Speaker 5: It's hard to jump togself when you don't have a

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Speaker 3: You know, it's staying in this business without completely sacrificing

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Speaker 3: who you are is really hard, and it's it's not

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Speaker 2: But I'd love to start.

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Speaker 3: I mean, at the beginning, I could just I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: jump all over there. I used to try and keep

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Speaker 2: But yeah, let's started.

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Speaker 3: Let's start at the beginning, because that's usually a great

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Speaker 3: place to start. When did you first start acting or

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Speaker 5: When I was five, I got lost to Disneyland and

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Speaker 5: I got lost the Sleeping Beauty's Capital and they call

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Speaker 5: a very And I love my mom.

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Speaker 4: She just passed away two years ago, a very critical, bipolar,

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Speaker 4: borderline mother and I I know that's a hot term nowadays,

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Speaker 5: So long to unravel this toxic relationship. And I've had

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Speaker 5: a complete forgiveness of her. I forgave her completely and

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Speaker 5: I think a lot of actors come to Hollywood to

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Speaker 5: seek the adoration of strangers. And you guys started here.

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Speaker 5: I came here from far away. You know, it was

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Speaker 5: a dream to be Hayley Mills. And I watched The

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Speaker 5: the entertainment industry, thinking it was full of innocence and

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Speaker 5: I have to seek that out. And I love movies.

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Speaker 5: I just loved Micheli and I was in every play

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Speaker 4: All the girls the neighborhood wouldn't play the boy, so.

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Speaker 2: I was the prince or you know, oh, I love it.

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Speaker 4: Yes.

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Speaker 3: And I used to create very Shakespearean of you, yeah exactly,

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Speaker 4: And I used to create poster board scenery.

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Speaker 5: And my dad was in the He was a violinist,

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Speaker 5: was raised in Shanghai, escaped the Russian Revolution, and he

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Speaker 5: And he was in the Shanghai Philharmonic and then he

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Speaker 5: That's when the Japanese invaded the Rape of Nan King

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Speaker 5: the Alpasa Symphony and I went to see him do

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Speaker 5: the theater, the gauze whale with the light inside, and

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Speaker 5: I mean from El Pasa to Scarsale, so I didn't

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Speaker 4: So it was like a really great escape.

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Speaker 2: And that was where you started. Was theater.

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Speaker 4: Yes, well, I was in a well.

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Speaker 5: I wasn't in I was in a fellow, but I

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Speaker 5: didn't play Tesdemona. I played a male torch bearer with

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Speaker 4: The cheerleader with longlood here. So I wanted to be blunt.

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Speaker 5: You know. It was this crazy idea that you could

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Speaker 5: know my motives weren't exactly sure.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean that I don't know that it's yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think that's I mean that's what a lot of

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Speaker 3: whether you're viewing it or participating it. It is some

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Speaker 4: Mean it wasn't pure. It was like it was for

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Speaker 5: And I remember my high school drama teacher, mister Hazel

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Speaker 5: time I did the scene from Glass Bannagerie, the opening

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Speaker 5: looking at me like like I became that guy. I'm

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Speaker 5: not like doing gender bending roles. I just happened to

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Speaker 5: love these roles where the main part was always more interesting,

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Speaker 5: you know. So I'm writing roles like that for women,

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Speaker 5: But back then I would he loved what I was

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Speaker 1: Was it too close for comfort or was it I wanted?

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Speaker 5: My parents had moved to Holland my father had lost

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Speaker 5: and I began writing letters to all the producers on

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Speaker 4: And they had They managed a young boy named Michael J.

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Speaker 4: All the execs were there. I wasn't even nervous.

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Speaker 5: I was the only one wearing a virginal flowered dress.

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Speaker 4: And I read with Ted.

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Speaker 5: I worked for a Gregreek Corniloff, but they moved him

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Speaker 4: We're best friends.

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Speaker 4: I wrote a movie.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, we're just school just all sort of lined

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Speaker 5: It's a god I love that term, Like I trademarked

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Speaker 4: That's uncanny.

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Speaker 1: So what great training ground to be on a sitcom,

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Speaker 1: if you mess up. And that's so you did Too

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Speaker 1: Close for Comfort for six seasons, seven seasons.

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Speaker 4: I loved Ted, but he got rid of Nasty.

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Speaker 4: I ran to Nancy and I went to lunch recently

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Speaker 4: And also I got in a lot of trouble with him.

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Speaker 4: He would yell at the booth. I'm like, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Where it's all bad.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, that's so funny. You did that.

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Speaker 5: I got in trouble the National National requires in spies

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Speaker 1: I was.

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Speaker 4: I got in a lot of trouble with Tatalot.

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Speaker 5: I was so nervous, and my managers kept trying to

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Speaker 3: But like six seasons on a show is incredible. I mean,

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Speaker 5: I keep going I haven't really done my real dream yet,

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Speaker 4: We have a lot fun and then every hiatus I

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Speaker 2: All of the all of the top eighties shows you hit,

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Speaker 4: Race Car Driving, Dix Hazard, two hour Movie Crazy.

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Speaker 4: just hanging out. How my boyfriend and I go.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that sounds fabulous. Yeah, that sounds super fun.

444
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Speaker 5: I love Jim. And they named Monroe after my high

445
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:52,600
Speaker 5: school friend.

446
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Speaker 2: I was going to ask that.

447
00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,560
Speaker 1: I was like, what a coincidence? Is not a common name.

448
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Speaker 1: Yeah that is so cool. Oh wow, oh I love that.

449
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Speaker 2: Are you still in La Yeah, you're out here. Yeah.

450
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:14,440
Speaker 2: I living kind of hard to do. I mean it is.

451
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Speaker 5: I raised my kids in Beverly Hills. I raised three

452
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Speaker 5: boys and two dogs, including my husband, and they.

453
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:24,399
Speaker 3: All Was he one of the boys or the dogs

454
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:27,440
Speaker 3: were absolutely yeah, yeah yeah.

455
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Speaker 5: I had a stepson who had grittle bung disease. I

456
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,640
Speaker 5: love him so much. He's twenty eight.

457
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Speaker 4: My son is.

458
00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,680
Speaker 5: Thirty, just through thirty. My biological thing. It was such

459
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:39,200
Speaker 5: a great household. We have a wonderful time. But now

460
00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 5: I met the love of my life. And he's a writer.

461
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 5: He wrote Seinfeld, got an Immy wg A wards. He

462
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,240
Speaker 5: brought all those eighties shows too.

463
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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. That's incredible.

464
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Speaker 3: So you still you're still very much involved in I mean,

465
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Speaker 3: this business and have been for a very long time.

466
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Speaker 2: I mean, that's incredible.

467
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Speaker 5: There's times I want to leave, but I have. I

468
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,680
Speaker 5: have so much writing I'm doing right now, writing kind.

469
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,200
Speaker 4: Of a spiritual therapy comedy.

470
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:11,720
Speaker 5: I write comedy about my own complete assholish things that happen,

471
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:12,720
Speaker 5: I mean, things that have happened to me.

472
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 4: I had some hilarious Hollywood horror stories.

473
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:17,960
Speaker 5: So the new book I'm writing is called Hiding My

474
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 5: Brain and My bra It should have been done by now.

475
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 2: Oh yes, yeah, oh my god, I want to read it.

476
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,160
Speaker 1: I was like, how do I get my I want

477
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:25,840
Speaker 1: my hands on an advanced copy please.

478
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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, definitely, it's just about to be turned in.

479
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 4: But I also there's some tragic parts in it as well, because.

480
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 5: I'm, you know, thirty years sober and I had a

481
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,399
Speaker 5: really I found my soul.

482
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 4: It's funny you can find your soul in a shallow.

483
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:41,560
Speaker 5: Place like LA because it's got this incredible recovery community.

484
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

485
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:47,880
Speaker 3: Sorry, the La recovery community is really it's unlike anywhere else, and.

486
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 2: We're very spoiled.

487
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, the recovery community out here. You go other places,

488
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,159
Speaker 3: you're like, oh man, like recovery. You know, it's great anywhere,

489
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 3: and you'll find your people.

490
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Speaker 2: But La has just such a.

491
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 3: And so many creative people, and so many people in

492
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 3: this business I think too, that are also sober and

493
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 3: that it there's just such a connection amongst a lot

494
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:11,639
Speaker 3: of people in this area.

495
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Speaker 4: Totally agree. I love yeah, yeah, yeah.

496
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean you're really open about your sobriety

497
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 3: and you're speaking and all of that, which I obviously

498
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 3: have huge.

499
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Speaker 2: Admiration for.

500
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Speaker 5: What.

501
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Speaker 3: You know, twenty nine years you said twenty nine or

502
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Speaker 3: thirty years.

503
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Speaker 5: I'll me thirty, but I'm twenty nine twenty nine yeah, seven,

504
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,440
Speaker 5: I mean nine to eleven, nineteen ninety four.

505
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 2: Wow, that's yeah, that's incredible.

506
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 1: Congratulations, that's really inspirational.

507
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 5: It's everything. I can't believe it. I was like a

508
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:47,120
Speaker 5: radioactive drunk. I mean, I really had, and then one

509
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 5: day everything shifted because I surrendered. It was like, I

510
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:55,360
Speaker 5: kind of want to prove this power through quantum physics

511
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 5: because it's I wasn't raised in a fundamentalist religion, but

512
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:02,640
Speaker 5: I definitely believe in the power of love, your higher self. Yeah,

513
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:06,120
Speaker 5: and it's transformative once you just I title a body

514
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 5: my old brain out started believing that it was possible

515
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 5: to be happy and to stop worrying, you know.

516
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. So it's really it's it's a common theme on

517
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 1: this podcast. We talk a lot about how you turn

518
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 1: tragedy into comedy. We're using that as a way to

519
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,400
Speaker 1: cope with degree for the difficult times in your life.

520
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 1: And is that do you think that's why you're so

521
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Speaker 1: drawn to writing comedy and performing comedy.

522
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Speaker 2: Time time plus tragedy equals comedy.

523
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Speaker 4: Exactly.

524
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Speaker 5: I can't believe you said everything about tragedy turning into comedy.

525
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 4: That's my entire life. Actually, yeah, and every I.

526
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 5: Have a sponsor, and every time I tell her, let's

527
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 5: just look at this as an opportunity.

528
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 4: You're going to have a transformation.

529
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 5: Don't fight it, accept it right, accepting Sometimes we jump

530
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 5: to the solution too quickly, but acceptance is accept where

531
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Speaker 5: you are right now.

532
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Speaker 2: It's not going to kill you, right, and then you.

533
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,439
Speaker 5: Can move into the beauty the transformation, which is to

534
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:03,199
Speaker 5: see the good around you.

535
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Speaker 4: I really believe love is the physical force. Yeah.

536
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I was gonna says it's you know, it's one

537
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 3: of those things until.

538
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 2: You get to a place where you.

539
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 3: Can and I have gone through this many times in

540
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 3: my life until I learned to be able to get

541
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Speaker 3: to a place where I could find joy regardless of

542
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:29,439
Speaker 3: outer circumstances. Then I found that once I was able

543
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Speaker 3: to tap into that joy, that then all of the

544
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 3: things that I wanted for myself became that much easier

545
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 3: because I also recognized that they weren't in the external,

546
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 3: you know, and they weren't in the things I would

547
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 3: surround myself with.

548
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 2: It was all like what am I feeling on the inside.

549
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 3: I can drive a car and have no money and

550
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 3: live in a one bedroom apartment, but I can all

551
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:58,959
Speaker 3: but I can be happy because happiness and outer monetary

552
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 3: stuff are not at all connected. And like learning that

553
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 3: sort of thing and like the reflection of that, and

554
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 3: that's why I just I love listening to what you

555
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 3: talk about and all that because.

556
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 2: It's so it's so key to like really learning how to.

557
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 3: Live in the present moment and that it's that being

558
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 3: happy is not necessarily a condition, right, Like it's not

559
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like you can be content

560
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 3: in the midst of yes, incredible darkness, because you know

561
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 3: that that is also momentary, you know, God that it's

562
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 3: all sort of transitory. But anyway, I I, Yeah, this

563
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 3: is one of my favorite things to talk about. So

564
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Speaker 3: I'm like very excited. Yeah, I love that.

565
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Speaker 4: Wow.

566
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

567
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

568
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Speaker 5: In the darkest moment of my divorce, when I was

569
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Speaker 5: when my little stepson was going to move away to

570
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 5: Malibu High and I was going to lose my little

571
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 5: he was fourteen when we divorced, Jack went off to

572
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 5: see his dad for the summer, and I'm sitting under

573
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 5: this fig tree.

574
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:05,679
Speaker 4: I never knew we.

575
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 5: Had a fig tree because I didn't look up during

576
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 5: the whole marriage ring.

577
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 4: And suddenly, by the end of that year, when my

578
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 4: life had come to fruition, the whole tree was full

579
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 4: of figs.

580
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 5: But I had this amazing revelation that life is about

581
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 5: the very moment you're in. If you can be here now,

582
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 5: if you have one foot in tomorrow and one fitting yesterday,

583
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 5: you're pissing on today. And I suddenly a butterfly, I'm

584
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 5: not kidding, butterfly started circling me because I was in

585
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 5: this grief, deep grief. It was almost like a pang

586
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 5: of heartache over the divorce. It wasn't that I it's

587
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,880
Speaker 5: a love story. I have a really funny story about

588
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 5: my marriage. It's like hilarious. I mean, I couldn't leave

589
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 5: my marriage sooner. I was getting too much comedy.

590
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 4: Material out of it.

591
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 3: But I mean, I get it. I've been divorced three times.

592
00:27:56,040 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 3: It's so much, so much material, you just never ending,

593
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 3: and it's still going yet.

594
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 5: But then this butterfly appeared and I started and it

595
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 5: was snapped out of my internal grief by an external

596
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 5: It was weird, like I always had an internal transformation,

597
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,360
Speaker 5: but this time, and this is during.

598
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 4: Sobriety, this butterfly was so beautiful.

599
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 5: I began chasing butterflies and I was taken to I

600
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 5: had to go to a Delmar event for autistic children

601
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,679
Speaker 5: that weekend, and they put me up at a hotel

602
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 5: and I went to the San Diego Zoo alone, cried

603
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 5: about my marriage, and I started playing with the animals,

604
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 5: like a gorilla stucker hung out at me, and a

605
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 5: peacock I sawt like a nerd, but a peacock opened

606
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 5: its feathers and I'm like. All the toddlers and I

607
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 5: were ooing an eye against the animals. All the parents

608
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 5: were on their phones, and I'm like, I'm a child again,

609
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 5: and I was so in love with this day. I

610
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 5: stayed so present, and when I got home, I saw

611
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 5: the one thing I wanted to see was a monarch

612
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 5: butterfly in person. I've never seen one in person, and

613
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 5: it was waiting for me at my front door on

614
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 5: a rose and I go and I realized the universe

615
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 5: is interactive. It wants to play with us. It wants

616
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 5: to show off for us. It wants to give us

617
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 5: our dreams, but we're never present. Where was worrying or regretting,

618
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 5: you know, and that was like a revelation kind of

619
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 5: a day.

620
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Speaker 3: Well, they've done these incredible studies about having a sense

621
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 3: of awe. If you can cultivate a sense of awe

622
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 3: or a sense of wonder, yes, every day over something small,

623
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 3: whether it's a bird or a piece of art or

624
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 3: a sunset or something that you just go wow, and

625
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 3: you tap into that childlike sense of like that's so cool.

626
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 3: They have done studies that show that that is a

627
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 3: huge connection and boost to like serotonin levels and dopamine

628
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 3: and like all of this stuff. That that sense of

629
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 3: awe and sort of childlike wonder and keeping that sense

630
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 3: of play and like excitement about what might be next

631
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 3: in your day that you don't know about. That that

632
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 3: is the thing that really is one of the huge

633
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 3: keys to contentment because those little things are are literally

634
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 3: you know, like you said, it's by your front door,

635
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 3: it's by it's the moments that you can find a

636
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 3: sense of awe or beauty in some of the most

637
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 3: horrific moments. And it's those moments that like, that's that's life, right,

638
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 3: is that that those two things kind of coming up

639
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 3: against each other and how important?

640
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Speaker 4: Thank you.

641
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Speaker 5: I can't believe you relate to that. It's like, yeah,

642
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:43,959
Speaker 5: I love when people relate to this because a lot

643
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 5: of you know, my.

644
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 4: Boyfriend's very grounded in reality.

645
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 5: It's like, okay, but it's kind of fun having a

646
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 5: grounded person and a very ethereal person in the same house.

647
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: Right.

648
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 3: Oh that well that's my husband and I. Yeah, it's

649
00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 3: you need those two people otherwise everyone's floating off the planet.

650
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 3: And also, like I tend to it's those like both

651
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 3: sides of my brain where I'm like, well, yes, but

652
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 3: also this there's like sensible, but there's also like my

653
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 3: woo woo side, and I love my woo woo side,

654
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 3: but I also love my science side. But I think

655
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 3: the two are much more interconnected than we give them credit.

656
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 5: But anyway, by the way, wait, Einstein says, no problem

657
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 5: can be solved at the same level it was created on.

658
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 5: Do you have to go to a higher level it's

659
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 5: spiritual or diplomatic. You can't fight fire with fire, can't

660
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 5: your alcoholism with more alcohol, And you can't really create

661
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 5: peace with bums.

662
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 4: So it's like go to a spiritual or diplomatic solution.

663
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it requires a bigger picture thinking and sort of

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Speaker 3: getting outside of your sense of self ego, your own ego,

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Speaker 3: yes exactly.

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Speaker 2: Oh ego is not your am ego.

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Speaker 3: Really, as you can probably tell, we could talk to

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Speaker 3: Lydio all day. I mean, she is an absolute inspiration

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Speaker 3: in everything that she has accomplished in her lifetime. Well,

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Speaker 3: we couldn't bear to cut this interview short, so stay

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Speaker 3: tuned for Part two of our interview with Lydia Cornell,

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Speaker 3: airing this Friday, and in the meantime, if you want

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Speaker 3: to find us on Instagram, you can check us out

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Speaker 3: at how Rude Podcast. You can also send us emails

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Speaker 3: at howardpodcast at gmail dot com. We love to hear

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Speaker 3: all your comments, your questions. We just love hearing from

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Speaker 3: our fan of ritos. You guys really make this show

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Speaker 3: such a joy for us to do. And yeah, until

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Speaker 3: next time, Part two Lydia Cornell, You guys, it's going

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Speaker 3: to be really exciting.

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Speaker 2: But remember, here we go, here we go. The world

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Speaker 2: is small, but the house is full.

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Speaker 1: I'm always waiting, like on the edge of my seat

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Speaker 1: to see if you screw it up.

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Speaker 3: I feel like I should have in honor of Sendri

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Speaker 3: in a Moseley, I should have translated it into Spanish.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, that's okay. Well I tried okay,