1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: The insiders, the influencers, the insides. I would rather see 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: a congressional solution. It's part of my DNA. The Senate 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:09,239 Speaker 1: map in looks a lot different than it looked in. 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 1: President Trump was sent here to smash conventional norms in 5 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: a sense. Bernie Sanders has already w This is Bloomberg 6 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: Sound On with Kevin slay on BLOOMBERGHD two. Did you 7 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: hear about the manuscript John Bolton's manuscript The New York 8 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: Times Maggie Maggie Haberman in The New York Times gets 9 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: this bombshell scoop about this manuscript of John Bolton, the 10 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: President's former National security advisor, that says, according to this 11 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: book manuscript, that President Trump told him to hold the 12 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 1: money for Ukraine unless President Zealinsky of Ukraine investigated into 13 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden. So now no one knows are they're gonna 14 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 1: be witnesses or they're not going to be witnesses. Will 15 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: bring you the latest from Capitol Hill on week two 16 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: now of the Senate impeachment trial. Plus we are on 17 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: the folks of the Middle East Peace Plan debut, so 18 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: we'll dive into what to expect there and the pride 19 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: of Lower Merion, Kobe Bryant and NBA icon and legend 20 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: passing away so tragically along with his daughters, his daughter 21 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 1: and others. Uh, and we'll remember Kobe as well. I'm 22 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: Kevin Cirelli, Chief Washington correspondent from Bloomberg Television and Bloomberg Radio. 23 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: Happy Monday, folks, lots to get through. Kevin Wallings here, 24 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: Democratic strategist at h G Creative Media. Matt Gorman, vice 25 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 1: president at Targeted Victory and former NRCC Communications Director. Matt 26 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: I just got to start off the show. I mean, 27 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant, this story, yeah, um, it really is something 28 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: I'm I was a Lakers fan in the early two thousands. 29 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: I'm not a Lakers fan, Oh yeah, no, I was. 30 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: I was more a shot guy personally. But the epic 31 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: series between the Portland Trailblazers and Sacramento Kings and Lakers 32 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: in the nine early two thousands were were unbelievable. So 33 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: I I I'm struck by this because I grew up 34 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 1: in Delco, outside of Philadelphia, and uh, Kobe Bryant. It 35 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: went to high school at Lower Marion and took Brandy 36 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: to prom I mean that's literally our neck of the woods. 37 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: And so the front page of my hometown paper today, 38 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: I mean, just what he represented and in terms of 39 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: choosing to go pro instead of going to college and 40 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: that whole it's I remember as a kid, I mean 41 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: having dinner table conversations about should you go to college? 42 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: Do not? Do you proceed your career? I mean, just 43 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: but to see you know, And this is why I 44 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: know I'm all over the place with this, but I 45 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 1: was thinking on my walk today from the White House 46 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 1: about how do we address this. It's so human the 47 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: way he passed away, A father going to sports practice 48 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: with his kid, taking his kid to sports practice, and 49 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,239 Speaker 1: then in an instant, it's just all over. I mean, 50 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: just the finality of it. It's I don't know, We're 51 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: going to talk about a little more coming up, but 52 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: of course our thoughts and prayers are with everyone. And 53 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 1: that horrific accident, and it drew comment from President Trump 54 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: to former President of Amma and virtually all of the 55 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: Democratic presidential candidates and and everyone, Uh, just really gripped 56 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: the consciousness of the country. Meanwhile, we well, we'll talk 57 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: about this as well, that the coronavirus. I mean, I'm 58 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: starting to show on the downer folks, but the stocks 59 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: slumps and bonds rallied is concerned over the impact of 60 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: a deadly virus that originated in China rattled global markets. 61 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: The SMP five index fell the most in almost four months. 62 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: According to the down Jones Industrial Average, it erased its 63 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,239 Speaker 1: game and the NASDAC one d indecs had the biggest 64 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: drop since August. Kevin Walling, there's obviously the health impact 65 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: of this, but there's also this issue of trade policy, 66 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: and you know in China, you know, having to work 67 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: from home for example. I know my colleagues at Bloomberg 68 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: they're being told to work from home, and so that 69 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: that has an impact and economic concerns certainly, And and 70 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: that's what they're talking about two in terms of the 71 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: economic factors involved and the cost to production, uh in 72 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: productivity not just in China but also in the United 73 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: States in terms of the cost of goods um Hopefully 74 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: it's an isolated incident. I know there's a number of 75 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: potential patients here state side that have been quarantined. But 76 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: of course it's interestingly enough is the comparisons to the 77 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 1: stars outbreak from fifteen years ago and just the changes 78 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: swine flu swine flu stars. And it's interesting the comparisons 79 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: to Chinese society now right, it was much more secretive 80 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 1: back then. Uh, there there are reports that President he 81 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: is not releasing as much information that that could be 82 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: out there. Well, General secret let me let me pick 83 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: up their General secretary, Shijing ping He. I mean, where 84 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: is he on this? I mean the General secretary needs 85 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,359 Speaker 1: to talk to the world. I mean, this isn't just 86 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 1: a China issue. This is this is a global issue, 87 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: and he should he should come out on all right, 88 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 1: We're gonna get to that as well. But let's kick 89 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: things off. And here about this book, the Bolton book. 90 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: First of all, no one even knew when the book 91 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: was coming out. Mark how it's more now, Maggie, everyone's 92 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: chased the Maggie scoop still. Maggie Haberman in The New 93 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: York Times yesterday reporting that the Balton manuscript says that 94 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: President Trump told Balton, according to Bolton's manuscript book at 95 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: the Times, that he wanted to withhold the aid to 96 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: Ukraine until until they dug up dirt on Hunter Biden. 97 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: Does this change the trajectory of the case. Mcgorman, what 98 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: are you hearing from the right, not the case, No, 99 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: why the case? No, it might might change the trajectory 100 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: of witnesses at the trial right now, though nothing has 101 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 1: changed in terms of the votes on that. Romney and 102 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: Collins were more than likely going to be yes on 103 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:49,359 Speaker 1: that anyway there yesterday, most likely Murkowski and others Lamar, 104 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 1: Alexander n others have not shown their cards yet. I 105 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: was just reading before Pat Toomey has proposed a one 106 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: for one possibly, but let me guess Bolton for Bye 107 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: Bye God have you musty TV. But look, I think 108 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: though that this is where McConnell's pretty strong, as he's 109 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: telling everybody to kind of hold your fire, old cabin 110 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: are exactly um, and so I think that could be 111 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: the case. Keav, I want to play for you what 112 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: Mitt Romney had to say Senator Mitt Romney on the 113 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: impeachment here is I think it's important to be able 114 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: to hear from John Bolton for us to be able 115 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: to make an impartial judgment. Yeah, I mean, that's that's 116 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 1: pretty amazing to me. And to Matt's point about Leader McConnell, 117 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 1: the most interesting thing for me coming out of last 118 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: night in the Scoop by Maggie in the New York 119 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 1: Times is that Leader McConnell was blindsided, the man who 120 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: knows everything in this city, everything with regards to what's happening. 121 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 1: The fact that they were not necessarily prepared for what 122 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: was going to come down the pike with the book 123 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: in the hands of the White House since December thirty. 124 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: You know, great point, because you know we all know this, 125 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: but these books, if you're working an administration, you sign 126 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 1: your life away, especially in national security and intelligence community orbits, 127 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: and you have to write because you have to. You 128 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: can't go out and yeah, and and and national security secrets. 129 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: So this was vetted and not not by President Trump 130 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: and what you can and what you can't say, this 131 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: was vetted by national security people. So there's this conversation, 132 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: according to my reporting today, there's this conversation that's being 133 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: had to Kevin Welling's point of well, why what why 134 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: wasn't leadership aware of this or why weren't other senators 135 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: aware of this? And what was the timeline in terms 136 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: of of why they should have known that that this 137 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: was out there and that this book was coming out there. 138 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: And now you've got sentiment larity Leader Chuck Schumer being 139 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: able to say stuff like this here Schumer like Mulvaney 140 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: is a more even more important witness than John Bolton 141 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: because he was right there at all of this. He 142 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: was cheek cooking bottle washer. In terms of implementing this 143 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: whole scheme, I don't even know what a chief cook 144 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: and bottle washer is. But besides that, the point is 145 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: now they're saying they want more witnesses, more witnesses, a 146 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: couple things, and let's be vetting, is it's just so 147 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: looking for things that are, you know, state secrets. I'm 148 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: freaking the term but classified, right, it's not gonna type, 149 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: it's not whether or nothing. So it's important to kind 150 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: of make that distinction. I also did not laugh at 151 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: my joke We're gonna steal thank your manuscript, but not 152 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: the bolt No, but like quickly I will say this though, 153 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: I think it might have been more of a scandal 154 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: though if this somehow got from the NFC in the 155 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: McConnell's hands, though, that is something we need to we 156 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: need to consider. All right, coming up, we're gonna talk 157 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 1: much more about whether or not there's gonna be witnesses. 158 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: Will dabble in a preview of the Middle East Peace 159 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: Plan and Yes more on Kobe and the coronavirus. So 160 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: lots to get through stick arounds. 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I'm Kevin Cirelli, 168 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: Chief Washington Correspondent f for Bloomberg Television and Bloomberg Radio. 169 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: How can you not get in a good mood and 170 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: feel happy to be coming home from work when you've 171 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: got Bruce Springsteen playing in the background? Love that song? Uh, 172 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 1: Matt Gorman's here, Matt, what's your favorite Bruce Springsteen song? 173 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: Glory Days? He's with my favorite artists all time. He's 174 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,719 Speaker 1: my well, okay, so for me it's Bruce and you 175 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: two are top and Frank Sinatra. There's three or like 176 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: the father son of the Holy Ghost. In terms of 177 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 1: royalty of legendary American music. But my favorite song by 178 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: Bruce is um thunder Road. I've seen seventeen times. Seventeen times. Wow, 179 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: Kevin Roling, what's your favorite? I feel like you're are 180 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: you Bruce Fann keV? I love this song Streets of Philadelphia. 181 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: Great song, you know. And it's just so, it's a 182 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: great film, it's a beautiful song. It's a beautiful music video. 183 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: But wait to take us down. We need some uplifting 184 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: music video. Hit him, Mike, Sorry, gentlemen. Focus, Who's gonna 185 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: win Iowa? Bernie Biden, Buddha Jedge or somebody or Elizabeth 186 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: Warren she got the Warring Register endorsement. Look as of 187 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: right now, Bernie surgeon at the right time. Yes, he is. 188 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: I was. I was in Romney twelve and we called 189 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: us in about two weeks before Iowa and they said, look, 190 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 1: we gotta hit Rick sand Tormy. I do right now. 191 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: He's surgeon in Iowa. So you compile the book on 192 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: him very quickly, and he won by less votes. So 193 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: it's all about when you search. I just think what's 194 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: fascinating about Bernie Sanders is the APO book has already 195 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: been written on the guy a million times, and in 196 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: the past two weeks he's surged in spite of getting 197 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: attacked by Hilary's Hulu documentary, in spite of getting attacked 198 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: by Senator Elizabeth Warren on the you know, the general issue. Yeah, 199 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: and so he's despite surviving a heart attack at a 200 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: heart attack months ago, he got the Cardi b endorsement 201 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: Arihanna endorsement. I mean, the card Cardi bomb. You're connected 202 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 1: the Biden world. I mean, what is a get nervous 203 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: that to see Bernie? Is he running away with this thing? 204 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: I don't think so. I mean, and we've talked about 205 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: this before, keV On on sound On. You know, my 206 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: my interest is, you know, always the the issue of 207 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: after the first ballot, you know, who drops back, who 208 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 1: doesn't you know, sustain that that vote in these precincts, 209 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 1: and you know you've got Amy Clobtar that touring and 210 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 1: strong campaign. Can she get to that threshold off? Probably 211 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: not likely in a lot of precincts where those folks 212 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: going to go, likely Joe Biden, maybe mayor Pete. Same 213 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: thing with Elizabeth Warren, who's kind of despite that de 214 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: Moin registered endorsement, is pulling back support in Iowa. Where 215 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: did those second choice voters go? Do they go to 216 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: Bernie after this recent spat or do they seek you know, 217 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: somewhere else? Do they seek him more mainstream candidate like 218 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: the vice president. So I think it's anyone's guess. We're 219 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: a week away today from the caucuses Monday. Um, so 220 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: it's anyone's guests. And of course a week is, as 221 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: Matt knows better than I do, a week is an 222 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 1: an eternity in UH in a primary caucus state like this, 223 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 1: especially too, with the dynamics of impeachment and and keeping 224 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: both centers Sanders and center Warren not not sparce center 225 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: for boar Senator Bennett, but you know, not not in 226 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: Iowa campaigning. Let's hear from Bernard here is take a 227 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: listen all the whole What about Is this the kind 228 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: of rest its activists that you have. We got people 229 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: knocking on doors all over the state. There's people making 230 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: pillot ball calls. And that's how I think you won elections. 231 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: I than it really is remarkable that this is the if, 232 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: if he's able to win Iowa. I mean, but but 233 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: now you're I mean, Elizabeth Warren's trying to put together 234 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: this this whole the more viable alternative progressives. But then 235 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,040 Speaker 1: I look at the national bulls and bidens there. I 236 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: don't think anybody knows what through the heck, right, I 237 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: think there's multiple tickets coming out of Iowa. There's it's 238 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: gonna be the same field at the top, the same four. 239 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: They're gonna take that momentum into um Uh, into New Hampshire. 240 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: I think that is not going to be determinative. And 241 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 1: then you have South Carolina where the vice president is 242 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: going to clean up. You have Nevada where the vice 243 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: president or Center Standards is going to clean up. And 244 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 1: then it's anyone's bet bet for Super Tuesday. Look, I'll say, also, 245 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: do the person who wants Bernie to win more than Bernie? 246 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: And not to be ironic here, but I think it's 247 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: Mike Bloomberg because he's playing the long game and Donald 248 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: Trump and Donald Trump probably yeah, he's playing the long game. 249 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: He's stacking delegates hoping for a one on one or 250 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 1: one on to match up against Bernie and by that time, 251 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: most likely Biden if he get it gets that far, 252 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 1: strapper cash weekend proven he can't beat Bernie. And so 253 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: that's that's when you have the one I want to 254 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: match up. I still just don't see how. I don't 255 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: see the Bloomberg angle. I don't see I don't see 256 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,959 Speaker 1: that track. Do you think the conversations already left because 257 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: of the not playing the first fis? I just think 258 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: that Americans like a winner and and and listen, I mean, 259 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 1: why are we all go I'm I'm packing my bags 260 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: tonight and tomorrow. I mean, I'm going to Iowa for 261 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: a week and going to New Hampshire. For me, what's 262 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: the point if if if these caucus and primary states 263 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: don't matter, they do matter, and meant, whether or not 264 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: you think they should matter is not the question, the 265 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: question that the statement, the fact is that they do matter, 266 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: or nobody would be going there, nobody would be campaigning 267 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: there if they didn't matter. Because you know this, I 268 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: know this, people listening know this is that next week, 269 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: everyone who's a political junkie and I'm right there with you, 270 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: we're gonna be plugged in. We're gonna have all of 271 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: our social feeds up. We're gonna be looking at the 272 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: polls and the caucus and the numbers on the second 273 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: ballot races. And that's gonna give someone momentum ex free 274 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: media and earned media, free earned media, and the next 275 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: morning on every morning show, the winner is going and 276 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: the runner up is going to be on talking to 277 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: all of the morning show anchors about how they have momentum, 278 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: how they are now the front runner and whatnot. And 279 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean, I guess it's just you know, 280 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: Rudy Giuliani tried to pull the same thing and it 281 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: didn't work. But Rudy was uh more, he was going 282 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: to New Hampshire. He was still going to Iowa. He 283 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: said he can win Florida. But bloomer thing trying right, 284 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: And so the field will win though, And what the 285 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: thing about it is, for all those ourn media and 286 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: for all the debate earned media increases, the field has 287 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: been remarkably steady. Agreed, that's the other but that that 288 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: also would be on the national level, that would that 289 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: would also be another data point that I would that 290 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: I would inject, is that it's been remarkably steady. Biden 291 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: has been the Coca Cola of this race. There also 292 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: Bernie exactly. I mean, you look at the numbers six 293 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: months ago, and and and Biden it was leading by 294 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: ten points nationwide. The most recent Fox Newspole has the 295 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: same number in terms of leading his next closest competitor, 296 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders by ten percentage points. The only difference is 297 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: the variations in terms of these early states. Who's up, 298 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: who's down? You know, interestingly enough, you know, therefore, all 299 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: of summer into the fall, Mayor Pete was leading the 300 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: pack in terms of Iowa. He seems to have uh 301 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: dip back down. Elizabeth Warren was leading the pack in 302 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: in New Hampshire and that has kind of fallen by 303 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: the wayside as you've seen the field kind of coal 304 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: us between Sanders and Biden, you know. I I also 305 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: just want to say this about Iowa. Donald Trump carried 306 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: Iowa by ten percentage points against Hillary Clinton. And and 307 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: those are I mean, how many how many votes is 308 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: six votes? Those are six electoral votes that the Democratic 309 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: Party would want. So the idea to be trash talking Iowa, 310 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: the Hawkeye state, it doesn't play well in a general election. 311 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: And look at the candidate who did that, Julian Cashro 312 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: what is he doing. He's stomping for Elizabeth Warren his 313 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: whole campaign and Iowa's IWAI shouldna be first so what 314 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: are you doing now? And look, I mean we have 315 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: we have an imperfect democracy, but it's the most perfect 316 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: in the world. So I mean, it'll be fascinating to see. 317 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: But what do I know? All right? And just as 318 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: a disclaimer, uh, Michael Bloomberg is the founder of majority 319 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: owner of Bloomberg LP, the parent company of Bloomberg News. Alright, 320 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: coming up, we're gonna talk more policy. I'm Ken Cirelli, 321 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg TV and Bloomberg Radio. You're 322 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: listening to Bloomberg. This is Bloomberg Sound On with Kevin 323 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: Surrelane on Bloomberg and one oh five point seven h 324 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: D two. I'm Kevin Curreli, chief Washington correspondent from Bloomberg 325 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: Television and Bloomberg Radio. Kevin wallings here. He's a democratic 326 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: strategist over at h G Creative Media. He's also a 327 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: Biden World insider and Matt Gorman vice president at Targeted 328 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 1: Victory and former NRCC communications director. But I mean, really, 329 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 1: the talk of the town today, even more so than impeachment, 330 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: was this tragedy with NBA legend Kobe Bryant and his daughter, 331 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 1: and of course the others who were killed in that 332 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: helicopter crash. And that's why I'm really grateful and filled 333 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: with gratitude that Eben Novi Williams, my colleague here at Bloomberg, 334 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: is joining us from new work on the telephone. He 335 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 1: is the Bloomberg Sports Business reporter, and he's the co 336 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: host of the Bloomberg Business of Sports podcast and radio program, 337 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: which is actually heard on weekends on b b G 338 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: b b G Radio in New York. Uh So, Eben, 339 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: first of all, I've watched you all day on Bloomberg Television, 340 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 1: and your coverage has just been so incredibly smart and 341 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 1: poignant and balanced. So great job. And and I also 342 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: just want to catch us up to speed in terms 343 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: of the latest just the latest facts on on where 344 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: things stand right now with Kobe. Yeah. So, you know, 345 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: as you said, a tragedy that is reverberating not just 346 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 1: around the NBA and not just around sports, but around 347 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of different pockets, which you know, 348 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: shows the impact that he had not just as an 349 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: NBA basketball player, but also as an investor, as a 350 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 1: you know, budding media mogul, as a you know, as 351 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: a as a short film producer, as a as a 352 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 1: child's children's book writer, all those things that he did 353 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: so well the latest you know, nine people unfortunately passed 354 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 1: away in in the crash, including the pilot of the helicopter. 355 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: Also Kobe's thirteen year old daughter, who was you know, 356 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: by all accounts, seemed to be a very promising basketball 357 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: player and was kind of the source of a lot 358 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: of his kind of parental gushing over over the past 359 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: few years. A lot of the investigation right now is 360 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: kind of focusing on, you know, what happened with the helicopter, 361 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: the conditions, especially foggy that morning in uh in California, 362 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 1: and as a result, a lot of helicopters were grounded. 363 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: So I think the big question right now is, you 364 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: know what, who made the decision to to ask for 365 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: permission to fly when a lot of helicopters in the 366 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: area were grounded. And secondly, what kind of what exactly 367 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 1: happened leading up to you know, the the helicopter crashing 368 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: into the hills. And then I said this at the 369 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: top of the show. I mean, and it bears repeating. 370 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: For as hyper successful as Kobe Bryant is and and 371 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: was just on the court and off the court in 372 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: the business community as well. I mean, this is such 373 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: a humanizing, relatable story. I mean, how many how is 374 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: it not related? I mean he was on his way 375 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 1: to a youth basketball practice, taking his daughter to basketball practice. 376 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 1: I mean that in and of itself, and and then 377 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: just to have this happened, it's just devastating. You mentioned that. 378 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: And actually Jake Wilkins, who's the communications director to Senator 379 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: Kevin Kramer, a Republican from North Dakota, he tweeted this 380 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: out about Kobe and I I told our EP Christine Murata, 381 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 1: so we have we have to play this because it 382 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: it speaks to that humanizing, relatable nous. And it was 383 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: an interview that Kobe Bryant gave to Fox eleven out 384 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 1: of Los Angeles, and he was talking to the reporter 385 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: about his game where his daughter Gianna had to sink 386 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 1: two free throws to win a game as everyone watched 387 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,479 Speaker 1: on the sidelines, and he he he wanted to call 388 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: a time out because he wanted to to to calm 389 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 1: his daughters. The coaches daughter, uh, calmer nerves, but he 390 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 1: let her keep playing. And take a listen to this exchange. 391 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: It's just to to listen. There was a game we 392 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: had where um, she gets to steal and she goes 393 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 1: to the freethro line with a chance to win the game, right, 394 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: And you know at these tournaments, there's kids everywhere and 395 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: his parents everywhere on every court, because like a million courts. 396 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 1: And she comes to the free line, and all of 397 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: a sudden, it seems like the whole place knows that 398 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: Gianna is at the freethrow line with a chance to 399 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: win the game, because they all come rushing over to 400 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: the court and I'm looking at her, and I was 401 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: going to call it time out just so I can 402 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 1: give her some advice to calm my nerves. Right, So 403 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: I'm I'm the coach. I said, you know what, let 404 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: me just see how she does in a situation. And 405 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: she goes to the free throw line, and everybody else, 406 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: everybody behind holds up the camera phones waiting to see 407 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: and she looks up and she looks at it and 408 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 1: she closes her eyes and she takes a couple of 409 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 1: deep breaths. She just completely calms down. She goes to 410 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: the freethrow line, drains him, wins the game. And I 411 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:50,199 Speaker 1: was like, all right, man, wow, I mean he he 412 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: grew up and he played high school basketball Lower Marian 413 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,919 Speaker 1: right outside of Philly on the local papers where I 414 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: grew up. Today, Evan are just you know, continuing to 415 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:02,199 Speaker 1: to eulogize him and anything else in terms of what 416 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: this means going forward. Is there going to be any 417 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: new developments out of this? And then I want to 418 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 1: ask you about the NFL hacking. Yeah. So, I think 419 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: the big thing and the thing that I think I'm 420 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: maybe most interested in. You know, Kobe was on the 421 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 1: forefront of kind of a new way that athletes, in 422 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 1: particular NBA players are dealing with their money when they're 423 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: done playing. We talk a lot about Lebron James, you know, 424 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: someone who instead of taking a lot of endorsement deals, 425 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: will often take less money if he can get equity 426 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: in companies. He severed a deal, I believe with McDonald's 427 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 1: so he could take an equity stake in and Pizza, 428 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 1: a much smaller company that maybe off the off the 429 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: bat didn't give him as much money. Kobe was at 430 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 1: the forefront of, you know, taking equity and and buying 431 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: into the infrastructure behind deals, not just signing deals with companies. 432 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: So I think one of his biggest legacies outside of 433 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 1: just the basketball is the fact that he was really 434 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: trailblazing on the early edge of this major shift where 435 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: athletes who are investing their money want to have a piece, 436 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: They want to own the production company, and I want 437 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 1: to just be in the piece of content, you know, 438 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: and they want to be invested in the company. They 439 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 1: don't want to just take a check for it to 440 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: appear in a few commercials. I think that's one of 441 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: the interesting things about That's a that's fascinating. I mean, 442 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 1: and that's not just happening in the sports world, by 443 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: the way, It's happening in the media world. Sure, well, uh, okay, 444 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 1: So there's a bunch of tell us about this NFL hacking. 445 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 1: There are a bunch of Twitter of accounts hacked today. 446 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: What's going on with that? Yeah, this one's an interesting 447 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: one because it's kind of developing and we don't really 448 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: have all the information right now, But it seems as 449 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 1: though a number of maybe up to a dozen, maybe 450 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: a few more NFL social media accounts were hacked, including 451 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 1: the NFL their main social media account on Twitter, and 452 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,360 Speaker 1: then you know a handful of teams from the Packers 453 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: to the Bears. Uh. There are some social media some 454 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 1: Facebook accounts, some Instagram accounts. It's all kind of up 455 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 1: in the air right now. There is a there is 456 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: a group I believe with ties to Saudi Arabia that 457 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,679 Speaker 1: is taking credit for it, uh called our Mine uh. 458 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 1: And they they tweeted out a few a few shots 459 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 1: of them, you know, saying, you know, we we access 460 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: the Gallas Cowboys Facebook and Instagram account. We access the 461 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,199 Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings Facebook and Instagram account. It's uncle. You are 462 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: the few teams that I've talked to, nobody seems to 463 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: have any evidence that anything more malicious happened, beyond the 464 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 1: fact that they maybe took over the accounts, maybe deleted 465 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: some photos, maybe tweeted out just a little note letting 466 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: their fans know that they were there. But I would imagine, 467 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 1: you know, this is a potential disastrous situation for the NFL. 468 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 1: And if the result is that nothing serious happened, but 469 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 1: they just did this for show at a time leading 470 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: into the Super Bowl where the NFL is in kind 471 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: of sharp media focus, I think maybe this ends up 472 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 1: being a positive in some ways. Then maybe they realize, oh, 473 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: we we have to be more careful about, you know, 474 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 1: the way that we protect accounts like this, But I 475 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: would imagine that both of the league office and a 476 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: handful of teams around the country right now, they're trying 477 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: to do damage control and to assess exactly what happened, 478 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: how it happened, and making sure there's nothing deeper beyond 479 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 1: what happened than just what we see right now. Williams 480 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: is on the line. He's he's our Bloomberg Sports business reporter, 481 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: and he's the co host of the Bloomberg Business of 482 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: Sports podcast, which, by the way, if you haven't checked 483 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 1: it out and you want if you want like smart 484 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: sports coverage, check out this pod cast because it's a 485 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 1: it's it goes beyond the scoreboard, and it it talks 486 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: about all of these things like hacking in the business 487 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: and private equity and how it intersects with sports. It's 488 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: like if Jerry McGuire was a podcast Epanovi, Williams would 489 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: be that guy. See would have don there eben. You 490 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: should hey, listen, I can sell any I'm kidding, but listen, 491 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: because you have such a cool job. I do want 492 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: our panelists to be able to ask you a question 493 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: that mc corman over here is like at the mouth, 494 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: and Matt is Vice president of Target of Victory and 495 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: the former NRCC communications doctor MC mikes Evan. Thanks, UM, so, 496 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: really quick question for you, and I know you you 497 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 1: mentioned a lot about Kobe and his business career post basketball. 498 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 1: Obviously won an oscar. What were some of the things 499 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 1: he was working on? Obviously wanted to ask her what 500 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: were some of the things he was working George should 501 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: have wont an oscar for space jam But so all 502 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, go ahead, what were some of the 503 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: things he was working on or had in the works 504 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: in the months and years to come that obviously won't 505 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 1: be fulfilled in the business. And it's a great question, 506 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 1: you know. So he Bryant Steible was his VC fund. 507 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: He founded that actually in two thousand thirteen before he 508 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: was done playing UM and the and the list of 509 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 1: companies that they are in is a pretty impressively Ali 510 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: Baba's on the list, Epic Games, which made Fortnite a 511 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: few years later, Cholula Hot Sauce, Dell Uh one of 512 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: the Dell subsidiaries is in there. So he was in 513 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 1: a lot of companies. I imagine he was going to 514 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: continue that. I mean, the thing that he did so well, 515 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: and there are a few athletes out there who do 516 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: this as well. And Kevin and and uh, Lebron James 517 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: is one of them. He utilized his stardom while he 518 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 1: was playing and immediately afterwards to get relationships that he 519 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: could then lean on later. That's fascinating. And so you 520 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: know Lebron, Kobe Bryant became very close with Mark Parker, 521 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: who was the former CEO of Nike. You know, he 522 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: counted Oprah Winfrey as someone who who had mentored him. Uh, 523 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 1: Joni if there's a whole list of really famous executives 524 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: that Kobe courted. So what was next? Uh? Certainly media. 525 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: You mentioned that Oscar that he won. He had his 526 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: own production studio. They were working on a lot of things. 527 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,880 Speaker 1: He has a best selling or had a best selling 528 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: children's book. I would imagine there was maybe more of 529 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,880 Speaker 1: that as well. Yeah, it also certainly seems And Kevin, 530 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: you brought this up earlier, and we gotta go jal quick. 531 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 1: Actually can you stay for the next segment? Alright? Cool? 532 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: So stick around. We're gonna talk more with Evan coming 533 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 1: up because it's it's so timely and just a quick note, 534 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 1: uh NBA says, Tuesday's Lakers Clippers game has been postmote 535 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: coming up much more. I'm Kevin Surili. You're listening to Bloomberg. 536 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg's Sound On with Kevin Surrel on Bloomberg 537 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 1: and one oh five point m h D two. I'm 538 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: Kevin Cireli, Chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg TV and Radio. 539 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: Kevin Wallings here, Matt Gormant's here, and Eban Novie Williams 540 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: is on the line from New York. He's Bloomberg Sports 541 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: business reporter and co host of the Bloomberg Business to 542 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: Sports podcast and radio program, heard weekends on BBG Radio 543 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 1: and it's out of our New York studio. And I'm 544 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 1: such a fan of his podcast and you have to 545 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: go on iTunes and everywhere to get it because it's 546 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 1: it's really interesting if your sports fan to to go 547 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: into the Jerry McGuire world behind the scenes and and 548 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 1: all the investing of it and whatnot. And listen, Van, 549 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: I'm I'm happy to come. I'm happy to tall politics 550 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 1: on your podcast anytime you want. Edban Okay, so I 551 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 1: I cut you off because we had to go to break, 552 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 1: but I just finish your thoughts in terms of Kobe 553 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 1: Bryant and investment. Well, what I was gonna say is that, 554 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: you know, certainly, if you kind of read where Kobe 555 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: seemed to be going over the past year or two, 556 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: you know, he was being very outspoken about women's sports, 557 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: and I think his daughters certainly have something to do 558 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,719 Speaker 1: with that. He recently said that he thought they were 559 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: w NBA players that might even be able to play 560 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: in the NBA right now. So you know, I think 561 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: that you know, there was a chance that he was 562 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: going to become kind of a more vocal proponent of 563 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: female sports, which is, you know, a topic that we 564 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: talked about on the podcast all the time because it's 565 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: so top of mind for so many reasons right now. 566 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: All right, and then Kevin Walling, who's a Democratic strategist, 567 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: what's your question for Evan? And I've been loving your 568 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: coverage all day, um and your insights. I wonder if 569 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: you could speak to um. The fact that that Kobe 570 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: spent so many of his formative years overseas, you know, 571 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: with his dad playing in Italy, he spoke multiple languages, Italian, French, 572 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: he was interested in Portuguese, he was learning Mandarin. Um, 573 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: the fact that you know, the number one selling jersey 574 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: overseas before his death was his his jersey. He was 575 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: such a man of l a a man of the 576 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: United States, but also this man Marian, but such a 577 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: worldly figure because of his abilities in foreign languages and 578 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: spending time overseas. Yeah, it's it's a great question. And yes, 579 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 1: you know, he spent you know, his formative years when 580 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: he was younger, before high school in Italy with with 581 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,719 Speaker 1: his father, so he you know, he spoke a lot 582 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: of languages very popular in Europe. The big keyword you said, 583 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: they're Mandarin. You know. The the NBA has done so 584 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: much work growing both itself and the sport of basketball 585 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: in China. It's really the NBA's biggest growth opportunity. And Kobe, 586 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: you know, outside of Yao, I would argue with maybe 587 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: had the second biggest impact over there. And it's one 588 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: of the reasons why Nike did so much work with him. Um. 589 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: And it's also one of the reasons why even after 590 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: he was done playing, when they do these tours over 591 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: every summer, NBA players go over there. Uh, Kobe was 592 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: always one of one of the most important players on 593 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: that on that circuit. So no question, you know he 594 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: was tremendously popular overseas, especially in China, which is, you know, 595 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: the most important probable UH market outside the US for 596 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 1: the NBA. All right, Evans, stay on the line, because 597 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: now we're gonna do my favorite part of the show, 598 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: which is what's on the panel's radar. I'm gonna kick 599 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: things off. What's on my radar is the coronavirus because 600 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: stocks are actually moving on this because it could interrupt 601 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: the global the global exchange between the world's too largest economies, 602 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 1: and of course it's a health scare, and so how corporations, 603 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: how communities worldwide, not just in the United States but 604 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: also in China are reacting to this is going to 605 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: have a massive impact, and it's a really good bell 606 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 1: weather unfortunately for potentially the status quo moving forward. This 607 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: impacts flight travel, This impacts international flights businesses. I mean, 608 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 1: just anecdotally, Bloomberg employees and China are being told in 609 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: parts of China to work from home until this gets 610 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 1: sorted out. It's a test for President Shoujing Ping of China. 611 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: It's also a test to some extent for the Trump 612 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: administration to see how they work with the CDC and 613 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: and and and other folks, so very much. Everyone watching 614 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: to see what happens with the coronavirus. It's on my radar, 615 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: Kevin Walling, what's on your radar? Quickly? Another test for 616 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: the administration Thursday's rollout of the much anticipated peace plan tomorrow? 617 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 1: Is it tomorrow? I thought it was, um, you have 618 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: net Yahoo coming. You have been against the leader of 619 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: the opposition party Blue and White Party both at the 620 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: White House. Will be interesting. This has been you know, 621 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: hyped for you know, Jared Kushner ever since uh he 622 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: uh took on this portfolio. Will be interesting to see 623 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: how it plays out. I mean it isn't at the 624 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: White House today. I was at the White House, the 625 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: Security Presidence as the President met with Israeli Prime Minister 626 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: Benjamin net Yahoo and of course the opposition leader Benny Gantz, 627 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: and to hear of the President's remarks setting the expectations 628 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: as it relates to the unveil of this Middle East 629 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: peace plant, which, mind you, if there wasn't an impeachment trial, 630 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: would be the dominant story that everybody would be talking about. 631 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 1: And it it really has gone under the radar. So 632 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: I'm glad for lack of a better term that you 633 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 1: put it on the radar, because even if it I mean, 634 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: we should always hope for peace, but even if it 635 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: doesn't have it's going to just be a uh if 636 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: nothing else, it will lay a ground marker for the debate. 637 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: And you know, I'm interested to see how the Palestinians react. 638 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,239 Speaker 1: They've already said it's down on arrival. But you know, 639 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: I mean, look, the United States and Israel are putting 640 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: out a plan. They're gonna have to engage on some levels. 641 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 1: So it's that's it'll be fascinating to see the developments 642 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 1: of tomorrow. Now what's on your radar? I love flight, 643 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 1: I love space, and I love Congress. So one of 644 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: the things that this is such a nerdy show, I'm 645 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: so kind of evans on the line to make it cooler. 646 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: Go ahead. So one of the things Trump has kind 647 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: of done, and it's kind of by part and praise, 648 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: does he really reinvigorate the space program to the Artemus program. 649 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: So there is a bill going through has bipartisan support, 650 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: UM that would in theory kind of take back or 651 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: in some ways kind of gut the Artemis program. Um, 652 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 1: it's a big priority for for what program the Artemus program, 653 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: which is the arts program, which is the program that's 654 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: going to bring folks to the moon, remember that, everybody. 655 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 1: And so one of the big things behind it is 656 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,959 Speaker 1: Boeing kind of wants to decentralize a little bit, so 657 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: this would give them the big win. They have kind 658 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: of some obviously some pr problems going on right now. 659 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: So I'm watching that very closely. It's gonna make its 660 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: with you the Chamber again, it's bipartisan. Let's see if 661 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: the Trump administration really pushes back on that. And and 662 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: in addition to that, Space Forces is heating up again, 663 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: and you're starting to notice that Space Forces is starting 664 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: to hire a lot of folks. So that's fascinating, and 665 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: I think it's again one of those areas of nonpartisanship, 666 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: of bipartisanship that does exist in Washington, and we're noticing that, 667 00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: especially on national security. That's really where it remains right van. 668 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: What is on at the movie Williams Woolberg Sports Business 669 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: Reporters Radar, So since I was just talking about Kobe 670 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 1: Bryant in China, I'll keep it in the region. In 671 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 1: my opinion, the most interesting sports business story of two 672 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 1: thousand nineteen was the huge kerfuffle between the NBA and 673 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: the State of China after Daryl Moory, the general manager 674 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: for the Houston Rockets, tweeted an image and support of 675 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 1: the protesters in Hong Kong, h and one of the 676 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 1: things that we are following, you know, one of the 677 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 1: big pieces of backlash that came out of that, the 678 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 1: Chinese State drawn Television CCTV essentially severed its deal with 679 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:34,919 Speaker 1: the NBA said it wouldn't be showing games this year. 680 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 1: That was same, same was true with the digital partner. 681 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 1: The digital partner is showing games again. CCTV is not. 682 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 1: From what I understand, A lot of people around this 683 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 1: believe that maybe around the NBA All Star Game, which 684 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 1: is a couple of weeks away, that maybe the moment 685 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 1: at which CCTV turns back on the spigot of NBA games. 686 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 1: If that is indeed true and that happens, I think 687 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 1: that's a major win for the NBA. I think Adam 688 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 1: Silver and the rest of the executives over there did 689 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 1: a darn good job kind playing the balance, trying to 690 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 1: make everybody not too unhappy and not too happy simultaneously. 691 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: Um and that could be the result that that story 692 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: was viled. Is there any talk that China would try 693 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: to create an alternative league to to compete with the NBA? 694 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,360 Speaker 1: And that's such a difficult it's such a difficult proposition. 695 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 1: Who knows if that is being considered. Um, but I 696 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 1: think that, you know, given where things were a couple 697 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 1: of days or a couple of hours after Daryl Morey 698 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 1: sent that tweet, I think Adam Silver would be thrilled 699 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: with the way the relationship is right now. That there's 700 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: still obviously work to go, but the NBA has a 701 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 1: billion dollar business in China, and I think, at least 702 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: for right now, it's not on the outside. Been can 703 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: you come on before and or after or both of 704 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl? An so everybody heard, it's gonna be 705 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: back and he's going to give us all the latest 706 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 1: on the advertising and whatnot for the Super Bowl and politics. 707 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 1: Evan great reporting today. E Been Novi Williams, Bloomberg Sports 708 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 1: business reporter, co host of the Bloomberg Business of Sports podcast. 709 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 1: Check it out. It's excellent and of course our thanks 710 00:35:56,239 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 1: to Kevin Wahling, democratic strategist at h G Crew Aided Media, 711 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 1: and Matt Gorman VP at targeted Victory and former NRCC 712 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: communications director. All right, gentlemen, Middle East peace plan tomorrow 713 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 1: and impeachment. And yet the only thing people are gonna 714 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 1: be talking about his impeachment. Yeah, yeah, the times that 715 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,439 Speaker 1: we live in, Kevin, with the potential that the first 716 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 1: votes on witnesses could come as early as Friday. Yeah, 717 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 1: I know. All right, Well listen, Thanks for listening. Download 718 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 1: the Bloomberg Sound On podcast on Apple iTunes, at Bloomberg 719 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 1: dot com, or by downloading the Bloomberg Business App. You 720 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 1: can also find us on Radio dot com, I Heart Radio, 721 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,359 Speaker 1: and Spotify. Remember slow down, Kobe Bryant taking a start 722 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 1: in practice. Life is fragile. I'm Kevin Sirelli. 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