1 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: For those people who believe in jinxing other players, people 2 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: and whatever it may be. Thursday morning, when I was 3 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: on my golf getting on the golf cart to get 4 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: to this putting green ten minutes before my tea time, 5 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: I saw a text from a good friend of mine, 6 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: and I'm going to nameMan because he is a Super 7 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: Bowl winning champion, Zach ertz Um. He said the text, 8 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna paraphrase here, but he said that 9 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 1: first green looking like a walk in the park or 10 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: something like that right now, ten minutes before I four 11 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: potted to study the tournament. So thank you, Zach. Don't 12 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: ever do that again, please. I got thoughts in my head. 13 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: Can't get him John nothing. What I'm thinking about in 14 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: my head, can't get him out. I'm thinking about, Hello, 15 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 1: this is alan ship, look back for another fire drill. 16 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 1: The Masters just ended seconds ago. Michael Bamberger and I 17 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: are in the Augusta National Press Building. Jeff Ogilvie, Guys, 18 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 1: what a day. I mean, people flying up and down 19 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 1: the leaderboard. But in the end it was all about 20 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: John Ram's just relentless excellence. What a champ, what a performance? Jeff, 21 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: what did you see that particularly impressed you at a 22 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: rom today, I don't know. I mean that back nine 23 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: he played, it was pretty flawless. I mean that was 24 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 1: a Jack Nicholas Taggerwoods level back nine on a major 25 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: Bury the pap fives. Everybody hit, he had tap insapa. 26 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: Most of the time. It was just class. He just 27 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: looked at and as sort of Brooks looked a bit 28 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: shaky there at the end of the front nine. He 29 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: just looked like he got his second winds, like, right, 30 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: we're on here, let's go. I'm gonna win. The masters 31 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: catch me. You know, that was incredible. I mean Phil's 32 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: finish was pretty zing, and they got it. It's scary 33 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: there for a minute, because I mean those two guys 34 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: were so far in front. To imagine that that sort 35 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: of thing would happened, you wouldn't have ever imagined it. 36 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: But now it was fun to watch, and Ram looked 37 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: every bit the best player in the world today. Jeff, Jeff, 38 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: how does the guy do that? Really? You know, they 39 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 1: played thirty holes together. They were with each other the 40 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 1: entire day. Really neither played a great third round. Of course, 41 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: very trying conditions for the first six sols, But how 42 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: do you think ram was sort of able to turn 43 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: it around and go from what he did early on 44 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: Saturday early on Sunday to what he did late on Sunday. Yeah, 45 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I've never done that, so 46 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. But I mean, look, clearly, he's been 47 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: pretty He's been playing really well for a lot of 48 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: months here. I mean, he hasn't had played very well 49 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: for the last month, but it's never that far away. 50 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: If you're playing the level he was, It's not like 51 00:02:56,639 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: it disappears very much. And sometimes it takes maybe the 52 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 1: last sort of eight in holes of the masters to 53 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,679 Speaker 1: see that, um, hey, look I can win this too. 54 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:13,519 Speaker 1: I mean, Brooks's maybe the most intimidating golfer out there, 55 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: and he looked intimidating, and he probably looked really hard 56 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: to beat playing with him for the first little bit. 57 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: But as soon as Brooks looked a little bit vulnerable, 58 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: of a sudden, He's like, hang on a minute, I'm 59 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: John Rahm, Like, what do you mean he's looking he's 60 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:28,519 Speaker 1: scared of me. You know, it doesn't take very much sometimes, 61 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: especially if your game is really good. One swing, Oh 62 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 1: that felt oh I remember that. That's what it was. 63 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: That's that's what I was doing, and let's go. You know, 64 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: so I don't know, just his best player in the 65 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: world finds a way, you know. I mean we've seen 66 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: it with all the best players in the world. When 67 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: they're struggling a little bit, they find a way to 68 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: turn it around. I like what you said about the 69 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: Nicholas Woods bit. It wasn't spectacular. It was workman Lake. 70 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: He just did what he had to do if he 71 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: never really felt like he was out of position, and 72 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: he put a lot of pressure on Brooks. You know, 73 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: as good as Brooks played the first two rounds, he 74 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: hasn't been in the situation a long time. He has 75 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: a new knee, he's been through a lot of strife. 76 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: Like it. Just as you said, Jeff, it just looked 77 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: like Brooks didn't quite have the belief that that you 78 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 1: need and that crucible. So all credit to rom and 79 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 1: you know, he has been a prolific winner around the 80 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: world for years now, but only um it was felt 81 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: like he needed to add another major if he was 82 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: going to put a stranglehold on on number one. And 83 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: it's been this ongoing debate. Is it is it Scheffler, 84 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: is it rom is it is it cam Smith, you know, 85 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: but I think this definitely solifies rom standing as the 86 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 1: best player in the world, subject to change. We saw 87 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: have a lot of golf this season in front of us, 88 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: but that this was a statement and at exactly the 89 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: right moment. I think, can you imagine that on some 90 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: level for both Jeff and Allen that they're thinking at 91 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: all about pha to ur versus slip Tour or do 92 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 1: you think the Masters is so big that maybe they 93 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: could just put that aside for a day. I don't 94 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: think Brooks is thinking about that at all, or I 95 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 1: mean I think Phil maybe. I mean, he looked incredibly 96 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: satisfied when you hold that put in the last, like 97 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: it was a little bit of like there you Guss, 98 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: I'll show you guys, you know. I mean, I did 99 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: the right thing, you know, which is fair enough because 100 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: it's kind of the consolation prize, I mean, because he 101 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: probably knew he realistically he wasn't going to win. But 102 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: I mean, what a round to play. And you've heard 103 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: of the last two holes, got on top of Jordan, 104 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: who was playing an unbelievable round. I don't think many 105 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 1: of them Patrick, I don't think thinks that way. Either 106 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: of the guys who are up there. I don't think 107 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: Patrick read or Brooks of the sort of guy who 108 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 1: care about that sort of thing. They're just trying to 109 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: win the golf toun and they're playing in and Phil 110 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: traditionally was that guy too, but I think I don't know, 111 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: he looked a little bit that way. Maybe we'll get 112 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: to fill in a minute, but I will say this, 113 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: you know, three live guys basically in the top four 114 00:05:56,279 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: plus ties, and maybe we can retire. What I've felt 115 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: all along was kind of a silly talking point that 116 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: going to live they were something and become bad golfers. 117 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: They weren't going to care, their skills were going to 118 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: deteriorate because there wasn't any tournament pressure or any meaning. 119 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 1: I mean, in every professional sport except for golf, basically 120 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: the athletes have guaranteed money, and the best players have 121 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: the most money, whether it's Steph Curry or Lebron or 122 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 1: Mike Trout or Tom Brady gone down the list. But 123 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: those guys continually push themselves to get better and their 124 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: life is organized around winning like the money doesn't corrupt them. 125 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 1: And so to think that all of a sudden, everyone 126 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: who want to live is gonna stop caring because they 127 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 1: have some guaranteed money. I always thought that was ridiculous. 128 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: And the fact that so many live guys played really 129 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 1: well this week, including Nieman. He was up there for 130 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 1: a while and he fell back slightly. But maybe maybe 131 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: the fact that Brooks didn't win will still give people 132 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 1: some amo like oh, he ran out of gas because 133 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: he's only used to play in three rounds instead of four. 134 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: But I think it was a statement that argument because 135 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: Phil shot sixty five and last round so exactly exactly 136 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: and read played great today as well. So I just 137 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: think this was an important development so we can take 138 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: we can we can speak about this stuff a little 139 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,679 Speaker 1: more seriously and and you know, it's been an open question, 140 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: like what does it mean to win a live golf tournament? 141 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: You know, Brooks prepared for this event by winning two 142 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: of them, and that's what sort of catapulted into Augusta 143 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: with this momentum. So, um, you know, how we assess 144 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: Live going forward, Maybe you can be done with a 145 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: little more sobriety and just a little less smirk, because 146 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: clearly these guys can still play and they're still dangerous. 147 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: Well said, but I would still say that for the 148 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: casual fan that's just turning in tuning into the Masters 149 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: and doesn't watch a lot of other golf that they 150 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: would never watch on this level. But for the three 151 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: of us and many of our listeners, you can't help 152 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: but think I couldn't have lived versus the PHA tour 153 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: when you're watching that leaderboard unfold and knowing especially what 154 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: it would be to film, it just adds another level 155 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: of complexity. We saw it. We saw it at the 156 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: British Open last year at the Old Course Kim Smith 157 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: and uh, well, excuse me, no, I misspoke because we 158 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: did not know Kim Smith. This is really the first 159 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: time it would have really seen it in a major 160 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: a level of complexity of my tour versus your tour. 161 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: Just think it adds a little bit of combativeness to 162 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: the tournament. I think it's it's a fascinating subplot in 163 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: all of this, And I'm not diminishing that. I'm just 164 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: talking about the idea that these live guys are not 165 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: going to be forces in the game. I mean, healthy 166 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: Brooks cap is still obviously dangerous. So yeah, I agree, 167 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: it was. It was a It was a great subplot 168 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: and added a lot of juice to this whole thing. 169 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: And if one of them guys hadn't been able to 170 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,599 Speaker 1: you know, if books and pulled through, it would have 171 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 1: turned up the volume on all this. It would have 172 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: been fantastic. So of course I was rooting for that 173 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: to happen, just because I always root for chaos. But um, 174 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: that would have ensued. But all right, let's talk about film, 175 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,959 Speaker 1: because as you said, Jeff, he shot sixty five. It 176 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 1: was a late start round. He had his old giantiness, 177 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: his old swagger. Jeff, what did you see from Phil's 178 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: round today that it makes you think that maybe he's 179 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: going to remain a factor in these big tournaments? Well? 180 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: Did they didn't show that much? I mean, because I 181 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: was watching the broadcast. I mean we saw the last 182 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: four holes, probably once they both sort of got on 183 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: there in the last four I mean four holes. Maybe 184 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: those last two holes were pretty impressive. I mean, if 185 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: I've learned anything about Phil one, he's an unbelievable iron player, 186 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 1: and those two iron shots in the last two holes 187 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:41,719 Speaker 1: are pretty stellar shots. But he is the most he 188 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: has some of the most highest level of self belief 189 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: in that situation of anyone you've ever met, and he's 190 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: the most incredible competitor. He just doesn't like losing, and 191 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: he has that that sort of attitude of conviction. He 192 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: just knows he's making the right decision, you know, whether 193 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: it is or not, he knows he's doing the right thing. 194 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: And that's kind of how you have to beat Augusta. 195 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: And it's sort of it's why It's partly why, like 196 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: Patrick read, Phil Freddie always plays well there. There's there's 197 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: that type of golfer and mentality that's just always going 198 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: to work at the Master's and Phil just epitomize that today. 199 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 1: I mean, he just loves that environment and he loves 200 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,959 Speaker 1: that golf course. But he looked anything but fifty two 201 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: coming out of those last two holes. I mean that 202 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: was that was actually that's almost better than he would 203 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 1: have ever finished a major, like, I mean, he never looked. 204 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 1: That looked really impressive what he did those last few holes. So, um, 205 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: never never not surprised by Phil. You know how much 206 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 1: fun is it to have Phil nikeas on the leaderboard again, Well, 207 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: it's it's amazing and it shows you the powers of drive, 208 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: among other things, because he has a lot to prove 209 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: and Allan, You and I have talked about this a 210 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: little bit, and anybody who follows golf knows this to 211 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: be true. Phil is absolutely world class issue things playing 212 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: golf and talking about golf and talking about Golf's kind 213 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: of got taken away from him because Gussie went down 214 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: this road and got himself in trouble. So that kind 215 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: of left playing golf and he had n't been playing 216 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 1: golf well. Now he played golf well again and that 217 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 1: allows him to talk about golf again in a public forum. 218 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: We just saw him doing it with his high flyer's 219 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 1: hat on indoors at Augustin National, which you almost never see. 220 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: So I think there's so much going on here were Phil. 221 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: But one of the things that's going on is the will, 222 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: the will of the man to stay relevant, and I 223 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 1: think Nicholas had it. He was pissed off an annoyed 224 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: at age forty six when people were writing him off. 225 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: Fred is Fred, you know. But it's astonishing, just you know, 226 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: if you have physical gifts like Phil has, and then 227 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: you have a mind that is so driven to do 228 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: one narrow thing at an expert level, it's just an 229 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: amazing what a person can achieve. You know whether you 230 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:04,439 Speaker 1: like Phil or don't like Phil. I don't know how 231 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: you could possibly say that that is not true. And 232 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: then just one of the quick note about about Phil 233 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: is that I think because he's left handed, there's never 234 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: really been enough respect for the quality of his golf swing. 235 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: But anybody who can't really see it left he is 236 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: a right handed person for whatever reason. Just watch it 237 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 1: in a mirror. You're seeing one of the great swings. 238 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: In my opinion, Jeff could tell us much more about 239 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:29,719 Speaker 1: on technical level than I ever could one of the 240 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 1: great swings of all time. For rhythm, for it's almost 241 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: sevy like, and how it builds strength through a long, 242 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: powerful swing with a big, high finish. And at fifty 243 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: two he basically swings better than he did at thirty two, 244 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: So it's textbook, really, Jeff, is that off on close 245 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: you tell me? I mean it's he has an outrighteous 246 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: talent level. I think he's swing is coming and out 247 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: of He's had to work for it a lot. There's 248 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: there was periods of middle of his career he had 249 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: to work to try to strike the ball, hit the 250 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: ball straight, you know, But he's so gifted and he's 251 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: got he's much bigger than most people thing. I mean 252 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: when you get up near he's got very big, strong arms. 253 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 1: Remember he was trying to he was warming up his 254 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: pitching arm and the parking lot there for a while 255 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: there on tour, trying when he was throwing it like 256 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: ninety miles an hour in the parking lot. He's a 257 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: strong guy, and he's so talented, and like you said, 258 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: I think it's the drive. It's just that will to 259 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:30,439 Speaker 1: he's just competing. He's a he's like a dog chasing 260 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: a ball, you know. He just he only got eyes 261 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:34,599 Speaker 1: for what he's going to do, you know, and he 262 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: has such a belief in what he's doing. But yeah, 263 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: that is surrounded. You're right if you do he is. 264 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 1: We all look at left handed swings and we just think, 265 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: I can't I don't know really what I'm looking at, 266 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: so we don't really try to even sort of judge it. 267 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: But it's when you play with him, especially as I said, 268 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: his iron play that sort of between one hundred and 269 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 1: thirty and two hundred, he's just unbelievable. The amount of 270 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,719 Speaker 1: shots when you're just being loose and you're playing a 271 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 1: lot on tour that he nearly holds from one hundred 272 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: and eighty yards is incredible. I mean I've seen a 273 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:05,559 Speaker 1: lot of those sort of shots that he hit on seventeen. 274 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 1: I mean, he know call it. He's so sort of 275 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: cocky when he's out there plying that he's as soon 276 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: as he makes contact, he's calling the bolder guck class 277 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: to the hall, or he's calling at the end, or 278 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 1: I hey, god, did you say that I lost it 279 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: in the sun? You know, And as guys are next 280 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: to the hall, he's fantastic to play with like that. 281 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: But the man of shot iron shots he it's close 282 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: to the hall is incredible, and his short game is 283 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: clearly what it is. I think the driver and the 284 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: pot of the two ends of the bag of being 285 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: the bits that have come and gone. But I think 286 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: that middle area of the bag he's always been incredible. 287 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: This is kind of nothing to say, but when you 288 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: think about a US Open in La there's some US 289 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: Open courses that would not be suited to Phil Michelson, 290 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: but that La Country Cup course, I think it's very 291 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: similar in ways. Sue Augusta National and then this might 292 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: not be the last time we hear from Phil. Phil 293 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: this year. I mean last year, they took in my 294 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: opinion from what I've heard, they took the Masters away 295 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: from him. Phil's handlers took his US Open press conference 296 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: away from him, something that he would normally enjoy. He 297 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: obviously did. And this year to see Phil both on 298 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: the golf course and in the president being Phil, it's 299 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: sort of like welcome back to golf. Phil. He was 300 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: very emotional in his you know, they brought him too 301 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: the big room, as you said, but he did a 302 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: flash interview kind of right off the golf course, right 303 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: out of the scoring area, and there was some emotion 304 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: in his voice, and his eyes looked a little watery. 305 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I think, you know, Phil's been through a lot, 306 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: we know that in the last year plus, and I 307 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: think he feels like he's Phil Mickelson. And you could 308 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: even see it earlier in the week. He obviously Augusta 309 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: lights him up. You know, Amy Michelson this year, his wife, 310 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: and I don't think he's been in a tournament since 311 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: the two thousand and twenty one US Open. She had 312 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: just sort of stepped back from a lot of the 313 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: the energy around Phil and the controversy, and he cleared, 314 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: you know, they were holding hands that I caught in 315 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: this little, very intimate moment upstairs in the clubhouse. I 316 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: just wanted to need to go up there on that 317 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: balcony and watch the last the players come up the 318 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: last hole. And they were sitting at this table right 319 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: outside the champions locker room, holding hands, and their faces 320 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: were maybe a foot apart from each other, talking and 321 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,239 Speaker 1: whispering and giggling, and they did look like college sweethearts. 322 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: And I think, you know, there's been Phil's missed, that 323 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: he's been on the road by himself a lot, and 324 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: I think being Augusta, having Amy's support, just the whole 325 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: energy of the crowd, and I think it was it 326 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: was a little muted, you know. I watched I watched 327 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: Phil on Thursday a little bit, and I think people 328 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: were not sure do we cheer for him? Do we not? 329 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: You know, he missed last year, There's all this stuff. 330 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: But as the week went on, I think the cheers 331 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: got louder, and today they were quite lusty. And I 332 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: think people just are happy to have Phill back between 333 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: the ropes. And I think this week meant more to 334 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: him than we could possibly know. And it was just 335 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: reflected a little bit in those remarks after. It wasn't 336 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: even what he said, it was how he was he was. 337 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: You could see him his fighting back, the emotion. So 338 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: that was that was cool. I mean golf was a 339 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: lot more fun, a lot more interesting when Phil Nicholson 340 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: is on the leaderboard. Whether you love him or hate him, 341 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: I don't think anyone would disagree with that. If you 342 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: know my name. I was just about John. Um do 343 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: you see John Ram in Greater Phoenix? Have you have 344 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 1: you played casual golf with them? And what made you 345 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: know about him that the public doesn't? Oh, I think 346 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: not that much. I mean he lives I had. Look, 347 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: I haven't been here for the sort of for a while, um, 348 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:24,479 Speaker 1: so I haven't been around that much. I mean I've 349 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: seen him a little bit. Um. He's remember at Wisprock, 350 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 1: but he tends to practice at silver Leaf mostly because 351 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 1: he lives there, um and he can drive his own 352 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 1: cars to the golf course and stuff. So I don't 353 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 1: go there as much. I mean I don't see him 354 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: at much. But I've said played with him a little 355 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 1: bit here. I mean he's um like all of these guys, 356 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: I mean, like everyone on two. If you go when 357 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: you go see him play at home, everyone gets a 358 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: little bit better because they're a looser, you know, um, 359 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: and the level is quite high and makest too players 360 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:51,360 Speaker 1: when they get home. And when it's guys like John 361 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,360 Speaker 1: rams it's incredible the stuff that they do when they're 362 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 1: showing off, hard worker, wants it, passionate, he's he's everything 363 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 1: you say. Yeah, I't thin. John ramahadds very much from anybody. 364 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: I think if you watch enough golf on TV, you've 365 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 1: got a pretty good sense of if John romy is. 366 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: I finally have the definitive answer, by the way to 367 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: a question in which I know we get a lot. 368 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: If someone is new to the game, men, women or 369 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 1: children and they want to look into buying a set 370 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: of clubs, the answer now is Robin Golf Robin Goolf 371 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 1: dot com. These people, it's a family owned business. They 372 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: make these really sleek, cool looking sets of clubs for 373 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: kids and beginners, men and women. 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So it's funny, 384 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: it's we've gone this Deepness podcast. We haven't mentioned Tiger Woods. 385 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: I mean, he Withdrew Sunday morning, which wasn't a shock. 386 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: I mean, everone could see how much he was struggling 387 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: on the golf course in the cold, wet conditions Saturday afternoon, 388 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, he cited that the plantar fasciitis, 389 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: which would make sense because his limp was so pronounced 390 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 1: late in the day. I mean, more than we've seen. 391 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: It looked not somewhat like fatigue, like actual pain. And 392 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 1: of course if you've had plantar, which I have, it 393 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: does feel like a stab at the bottom of your foot. 394 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 1: So maybe that's the good news that that that is 395 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 1: that can go away. It's not a debilitating thing. But 396 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: bigger picture, you know, seeing Tiger struggled, he was basically 397 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: at last when he Withdrew and seeing the physical toil 398 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: and just how much it takes out of him. I mean, 399 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 1: are we going to look back on this is the 400 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: week when Tiger kind of realized that maybe it's just 401 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 1: not worth it, you know, and he accepts that to 402 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 1: put himself through this much pain and this much strife, 403 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: to have to scratch and clode even make the cut 404 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 1: and not be a factor on the leaderboard, I mean, 405 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: it is just the beginning of the end of Tiger 406 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 1: as far as showing him these majors and trying to compete. 407 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: We don't know how. I don't. We can't. I don't 408 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: know how bad his leg actually is. It doesn't look 409 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 1: like it's going to improve. I mean, I don't know, 410 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: like when you get older. I mean I'm rambling. All 411 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 1: I know is if I'm healthy and I don't have 412 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: any soreness. But if I walk seventy two holes in 413 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: a gust, everybody's a little bit sore at the end. 414 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: I mean it's a tough walk. It was wet, so 415 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: there'd be some slippery up and downhills. We're gonna have 416 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 1: to be careful and it's a long way to walk. 417 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 1: I mean, at forty seven I'm forty five, he's forty seven, 418 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: So I mean it's a long way around there for healthy. 419 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 1: So I mean, if he's got all this stuff sort 420 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: of holding his right leg together and it's not a 421 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: surprise that he gets sore, I mean, who knows. I mean, hope, 422 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 1: maybe it improves, Maybe it's on the way he's certainly 423 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: it's not going to be a three lack of effort, 424 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:18,360 Speaker 1: and I think he's going to try to play golf 425 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 1: until he just can't because he loves it so much 426 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: and he loves that situation. So I don't think it's 427 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,360 Speaker 1: I don't think it's done, but it might becoming less 428 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: and less every year. I mean, maybe there's only one 429 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 1: or two every year, but hopefully he keeps coming back. 430 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: Two of the wisest things insights into Tiger whomber who 431 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 1: both came from Nicholas, and I fully believe both. You know, 432 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 1: One was when he ran over the Hydra and everyone 433 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: was exploring Tiger's private life, and Nicholas had the common 434 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 1: decency to say, it's as private life, it's some of 435 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: our business. I haven't agree with that. The other thing 436 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: Nicholas has said for wherever about Tiger is never under 437 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: a submit the Tiger Woods. And I have found in 438 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 1: my own life trying to write about Tiger Woods, since 439 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 1: he's a teenager, every time I do underestimate him now 440 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 1: that he's trying to prove me wrong, but he does 441 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,199 Speaker 1: prove me wrong. I would say right now, the way 442 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: he looks, the way he's looked the last few times 443 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: out forget about him contending in a tournament. It is 444 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: almost hard to imagine walking seventy two holes of any 445 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: golf course, the force who days of competition and then 446 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: whatever he would do, you know, in the practice rounds. 447 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 1: But having said that, like Big Jack says, you can 448 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 1: never understimate the Tiger Woods. And as we've seen with Phil, 449 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: you can never underestimate the role of will in a 450 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 1: person's life. And we saw we just had an illustration, 451 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: actual and that's part of the beauty of the game. 452 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 1: We saw an actual illustration of the application of will 453 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 1: in what Phil did. But Tiger is at a completely 454 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: different level. So you can't say no, even though it 455 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: looks like none the differences. Phil has never had any injuries. 456 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 1: I mean, he still has that long flowing swing, He's 457 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: still limber and supple, He's probably the best shape of 458 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 1: his life, even go back to college, you know, and 459 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: you know Tiger's got the fuse spine. Of course, we 460 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: know all the litany of injuries and the back surgeries 461 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: and the metal and his leg. With Tiger, I don't 462 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 1: I don't think it's about will. I don't think he 463 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 1: can go in the gym and make his foot and 464 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: his leg that much stronger. He can't give himself more 465 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: movement in his spine like those those things are those 466 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: things are fixed and they can only probably get worse 467 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 1: and not better. And so the question becomes if you know, 468 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 1: if for Tiger and Freddie couple said, I come here 469 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: to compete against myself. I know I can't beat the 470 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: best players, but I come to compete against myself and 471 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 1: try and make the cut, and if I do, that's 472 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 1: my victory. I think that's cool. That's great for Freddy, 473 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: and it's a thrill to see him out there and 474 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: everyone loves to watch him play. Oh would Tiger be 475 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: able to accept that? You know, He's always defined things 476 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 1: so differently, And if you can't, if you can't win, 477 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: you know, second place sucks all you know, it was 478 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: a zero sum game for Tiger. Either you win or 479 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: you fail, And so I guess that's really the question. 480 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 1: Will he will keep winting to go through this if 481 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: if victory is realistically not an option, and only Tiger 482 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: knows that. But I'm kind of dubious. I mean, I 483 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 1: just I don't think he wants to be in a 484 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 1: ceremonial role, and I don't think he wants to drag 485 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: it out for years trying to figure that out. If 486 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: you know, I think maybe he'll la country clubs. Those 487 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 1: are the grasses he grew up on. He's a southern 488 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:27,120 Speaker 1: California guy. It's not a traditional tight penal US open 489 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: course just gonna be much more about short game and imagination, 490 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 1: and I think it's a great canvas for him. And 491 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: if he goes there and he struggles, I don't know, 492 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not sure how much more Tigers are 493 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 1: gonna want to put himself through that. But maybe I'm 494 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: just a pessimist. I don't know. I don't know if 495 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 1: he'd be able to not play, I mean, it would 496 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 1: take a lot. He'd have to be a long way 497 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: away from He'd have to be playing really really poorly 498 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 1: to not want to play. You know, I think he'd 499 00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: always try, because I mean that's he's been always trying. 500 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 1: That's all. That's that's his might. He just tries really 501 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: really hard. And the probably the frustrating thing for him 502 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 1: with his injuries, it seems, is that the golf is fine. 503 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: You know, it's the getting between shot to shot for 504 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 1: four days that's the harder part. He said. He hits 505 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: the ball great, he's in the past most of the guys, 506 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: he said, he looks like the old school Tiger Woods. 507 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: I mean, he looks great over a putter, and you know, 508 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: if he could get himself in the mix, it would 509 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: be the golf wouldn't be the problem. I can't imagine 510 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 1: him stopping trying, you know, while he's still playing well 511 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 1: at home. But again I don't know how he feels. 512 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 1: It does look it's hard to watch. It's like, why 513 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: don't you just just go rest? You know, it just 514 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 1: looks painful, But it's what he's done his whole life. 515 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, Jack obviously didn't love like sort 516 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,479 Speaker 1: of not being able to win towards the end there, 517 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 1: but he kept playing. He loved it again. And I assume, 518 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: just like Freddie, you come along with your own little goals, 519 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: you know, each week, and can Tiger get to that 520 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 1: point and still be healthy. I don't know. I think 521 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: it's his game looks like it will be good first. 522 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 1: His game looks like it'll be great for ten more years. 523 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 1: It's just whether he can walk, you know, seventy two holes. 524 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: So I don't I can't speculate what he thinks, but 525 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna while he still hits the ball 526 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: grade and he thinks his game is good enough, I 527 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 1: think he'd always want to try to win. Jeff, You've traveled, 528 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,479 Speaker 1: You've traveled the world as a golfer. You come from 529 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,719 Speaker 1: a relatively small country that has produced so many great golfers. 530 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 1: How do you explain the fact that a country with 531 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 1: a relatively small golf population like Spain has produced now 532 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: what one, two, three, four Masters winners? I mean, I 533 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: can't really without saying that Sevy must have been that inspirational. 534 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: You know, Sevey was a once in a lifetime sort 535 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 1: of talent. The way he played golf and how he 536 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: sort of inspired people. I mean, he inspired a hole 537 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 1: to the right a couple bunch of times, you know. 538 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: I mean, you can draw a direct line to Seve 539 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: coming into the team to Europe starting to win, and 540 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: they mentioned him to the to the day at Ryder Cups, 541 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 1: they all walk out and say, oh, well, Sevey started 542 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 1: all this, and I mean, like so to have that 543 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: effect on his country in the Masters couldn't be understated, 544 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 1: I don't think. I think that was pretty important. And 545 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: him and Jose, it's been this this timeline for them 546 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 1: where their mentorship with the Spanish seems to be really strong, 547 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 1: you know. I mean Sevey was there, and then he 548 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: took Jose under his wing, and then they both they 549 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 1: all took Surgio under their wing, and then they that's 550 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: a very sort of close knit sort of community, the 551 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: golf community in Spain, you know, and they that and 552 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: they play with a lot of flair. I mean, they 553 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: seem to have a game that's built for a place, 554 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 1: that sort of allows room for expression if you like. 555 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: You know, Um never had to be the straightest hitter, 556 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 1: but it helped to be long, and most of them 557 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 1: seemed to be long. And they all moved the ball 558 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: both way. They always moved the ball both ways, and 559 00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: they all have great short games and they all have 560 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: sort of that Mattador sort of like stand up to 561 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 1: the big, big moment, sort of the flair for the 562 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 1: dramatic in the big moment. You know. It just seems 563 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 1: to be cultures have personalities in their golf games, you know, 564 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: and it seems like the personality that comes out of 565 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: the Spanish golf game seems really really well suited for 566 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 1: the sort of the stage and the drama of the masters. Really, 567 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,360 Speaker 1: but without Sevy, I'm not sure you would have seen 568 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 1: this many Because he was that you just wanted to 569 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: be him, you know, Yeah, yeah, I mean even and Sevy. 570 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 1: It's such a flu because I went to Padrenia, this 571 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: little village that he's from. There was no golfing tradition 572 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: there whatsoever. And then but across the bay is this 573 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: lovely city called Santander. And I can't remember which king, 574 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: it was, one of the kings, and like maybe the 575 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: nineteen twenties decided that he was going to start going 576 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: up to Santander as a getaway, as a vacation, and 577 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: he wanted a golf course built. And so they sent 578 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: people out to find some land that was suitable, and 579 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: the role farmland of Padrinia was deemed perfect, and they 580 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: bought up all the farms, and they built Royal Padrinia 581 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: and that became the king's hangout, and that was the 582 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: little house. This little stone house at Savee grew up 583 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: on was just on this hill looking over the golf course. 584 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 1: There was an absolute fluke. I mean, he slept in 585 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: this room above the horses were they were just kind 586 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: of subsistence farmers, and and all of a sudden this 587 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: great golf course was there. And so that's where save 588 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: started caddying and hit his uncle turned h Manuel was 589 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 1: it was a really good golfer, actually finished sing fourth 590 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: in the and the Master's way back when, and so 591 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: it just got kind of handed down. And it's funny 592 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: to think if the king had chosen a different vacation 593 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: home never heard of sev by Astarios to maybe no 594 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: Jose Amrio Othable, how that would affect Sergio and John 595 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: rom I mean, a hundred years ago, kind of a 596 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: random happenstance helped get gen Ron this green jacket. And 597 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: it's amazing how the world works. So I think broadly 598 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: the boss athletes have always been famous for for flair 599 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: doing things suits, no matter whether they're playing football or 600 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: cycling or golf or tennis, they play, they conduct themselves 601 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: with flair and alan you and I haven't made this observation. 602 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: Augusta National is a kind of cozy club in its 603 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: own way. It's not nearly as cozy now as it 604 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: used to be. But we've seen many times Savvy of 605 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: course when he was still in good health, and a 606 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: lot of the ball to enlisted degree Szergio when ill. 607 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: We'll see with with John Rum, John Rodriguez. But they 608 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: really enjoy the club, you know, we see him drinking 609 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: red wine, or their families maybe more accurately, the agents 610 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: are part of it, The wives and the parents are 611 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: part of it, and they sort of take over. I 612 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: mean they've kind of almost take over the club in ways. 613 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: They're very relaxing, very at home, and I don't know 614 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: if that has anything to do with their success here, 615 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: but Augusta National can be a really uptight environment for 616 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: a lot of people. But thinking about the time, so 617 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: I was looking enough to see it savey and unlauthable here, 618 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: they didn't seem up tight at all. They seemed like 619 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: this is arc it up for the week, we enjoy 620 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: and it was great. Yeah, that's the real thing. I mean, 621 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: like what Lee Travino would would change his shoes in 622 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 1: the parking lot because he didn't want to go into 623 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: the clubhouse. He didn't feel welcome there. He didn't like 624 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 1: the energy. And for a guy of that talent level 625 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 1: to never win the Masters, I mean, I think that 626 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: that's part of it. And you know, Tiger came here 627 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: and he had that chip on his shoulder, and you 628 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: know that he was that he turned pro on that 629 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 1: ad campaign about there's there's places I can't play because 630 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: the color of my skin, and you know that fueled him. 631 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: And so the energy around August the Nashville definitely can 632 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: affect different players in different ways. And I think Ram 633 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 1: is gonna be a great champion. To me, there's something, 634 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: there's something just kind of regal about him. He just 635 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: carries himself with such class. We met Mike and I 636 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: have talked about he has a beautiful command of the 637 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: English language for a non native speaker. He's so eloquent, 638 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: and he seems to always say the right thing and 639 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 1: be on the right side of every issue. And he 640 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: will he will wear he will look good and green, 641 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 1: and I think he'll he'll he'll wear that jacket in 642 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: a really cool special way. So it was. It was. 643 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: It was a wonky week with weather delays and and 644 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: Master's Saturday was it was was total washout. Only a 645 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: few shots got showing on TV and not a lot 646 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: of holes got played. And but I think this was 647 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: a Sunday to remember, and I think the right gay won. 648 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: So before before we release our listeners in any final 649 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: thoughts on the pretty memorable Masters. As I said, I 650 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: thought it was fun to watch, and like you said, 651 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: I mean I was there until yesterday. If you'd been 652 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: there most of the Thursday, Friday, Saturday, you would never 653 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: have imagined that it would finish with the sun setting 654 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: on at the right time and two balls on the eighteenth. 655 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: But there's just no chance that was ever happening all 656 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: week and and and again. Um nine percent at the time, 657 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 1: the Masters finishes the right way, you know. Um, it's 658 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 1: incredible achievement from the It's every time I go there, 659 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: it blows me away at how I pres of an operation. 660 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 1: It isn't. It's the most impeccably run event in the world. Surely, 661 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: I don't think anything could be run any better than that. 662 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: And it's they deserve all the sort of credit they 663 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: get because it's an amazing thing. And John ram I 664 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: don't think we've seen him not winning majors, and I 665 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: think brooks Kepka, I think is back. He looked he 666 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: looked like the old school brooks Kepka for about five 667 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: or sixtelfth really, and he looked at when he finished, 668 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: which I think was nice. You know, he finished pretty strong. 669 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: He looked at really good player in the last few holes. 670 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 1: And I think Jordan Space is going to win more Magic, 671 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 1: more Masters because he just looks so good around there 672 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: and it was fun to watch. Oh yeah, Jordan Speed, 673 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: let's just I mean just very quickly, like this was 674 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 1: the full speed experience. And if you're watching on Thursday, 675 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: you know he's in the pine straw on thirteen, he's 676 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: pretty far from the green. He you would think it's 677 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: an automatically if it's the first round of the Masters, 678 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: you don't have to be a hero. He goes for 679 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 1: the green. He knocks in the water. He just hit 680 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: in the water on eleven, and it's like face palm 681 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: because sometimes he just does the most inexplicable things. But 682 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: then when he gets a going like like he did today, 683 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: there's no one who's more fun to watch. But if 684 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,879 Speaker 1: you look, if you look though, that's why he's good 685 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 1: at the Masters. I mean, if you think about the 686 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 1: people who are always good there, they're the ones should 687 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 1: do that. Phil has never not taken a shot on target, 688 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 1: took every shot on, Sevy, took every shot on I mean, 689 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: they're the guys who win there, you know, and he 690 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: plays like that. You know, he plays to win the tournament. 691 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 1: And that's the only way you can win the tournaments 692 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 1: if you play to win it, you know, and he 693 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,240 Speaker 1: plays to win it. It's fun to watch. Oh, I agree, 694 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 1: it's fun. Yeah, for sure, on you know, Saturday or 695 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 1: Sunday if you think that's what you need to do. 696 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 1: But I just think, man, Thursday, even if it's an 697 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 1: incredible shot from there, it's probably going to be a 698 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 1: long eagle putt. He's gonna be putting for four. If 699 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,240 Speaker 1: he lays up, he's'll be putting for four. Like sometimes 700 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 1: I wish you would just play the percentages. But I 701 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 1: guess you're right, Jeff. I mean, that is who he 702 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,399 Speaker 1: is and that's what's made him great. So yeah, yeah, 703 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 1: having this fun to have some some old school speed 704 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: that racing up the league board. As well, Michael, any 705 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 1: our thoughts. When I watch him, he always looks like 706 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: he might be shooting forty one, and then you look 707 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: at the card and it's thirty three, and it's like, 708 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 1: how did he actually do that? But then, just one 709 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: quick note about ram All and tell me if this 710 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,320 Speaker 1: is not correct. I think he and Phil share the 711 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 1: same agent or manager and Steve Bloyd? Is that correct? So? Yeah, so, 712 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 1: And and he's been a voice for moderation about live 713 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 1: that the live players should get world ranking points. I 714 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 1: think all three of us agree with that. And now 715 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 1: he's got He's always had a platform in the game. 716 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,800 Speaker 1: Now he has even more of one. And it's not 717 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 1: good for golfers to be there's enough real war. It's 718 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: not good for golfers to be at war with each other. 719 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 1: So maybe with his win and with the prominence that 720 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 1: it brings, maybe he can be even more of a 721 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 1: voice of reason and be some sort of mediator. Yeah, 722 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 1: that's what all said. I saw a tweet was I 723 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 1: haven't had a chance to really dig into but that 724 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,359 Speaker 1: you know, Brooks Capital will get his full Ryder Cup 725 00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:00,080 Speaker 1: points from the in That was from a PG of 726 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 1: America's spokesman in their standings, and you know, it's a 727 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 1: Ryder Cup year. It's hard. He will get his full points. Yes, 728 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: in the way that the PGA of America calculates it. 729 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 1: He will. Now, the question is you have to be 730 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 1: as as the PJA has said, you have to be 731 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 1: a member of the PGA of America to play on 732 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 1: the Ryder Cup team. And if you're a member of 733 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 1: the PGA Tour, you automatically become a member of the 734 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 1: PGA of America. That's how you get onto the team. Now, 735 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 1: of course there's many other ways that they could grant 736 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 1: somebody membership. But you know, all of a sudden, you 737 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,720 Speaker 1: when you're thinking about this Ryder Cup team, you figured 738 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,800 Speaker 1: out Dustin is not in it, Brooks is not in it, 739 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,240 Speaker 1: feels not in it. But if if as you say, Michael, 740 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 1: there's just there's larger reapproachment and some of these things 741 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 1: get finassed somehow. Uh, you know, they all of a sudden, 742 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 1: those are those are three heavyweight personalities and players who 743 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 1: might somehow be in the mix where they weren't a 744 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:56,280 Speaker 1: week ago. So it's um, well, we'll have to investigate 745 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 1: a little further how the PGA is going to handle 746 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 1: all this because it's now the points start getting real 747 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,840 Speaker 1: when you get to the major championship season. So, as always, 748 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 1: there are a million subplots in professional golf right now. 749 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:12,320 Speaker 1: But the big story today John wrong incredible victory, commanding 750 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 1: victory really one by four shots, and some ways it 751 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:16,720 Speaker 1: felt like more than that. He was in total control 752 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 1: of this tournament pretty much all of Sundays, So all 753 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 1: credits the new Master's Champion, Jeff is great. Team you 754 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 1: under the tree here Augusta. That we've got to podcast again, Michael. 755 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 1: As always, it's a pleasure. We will keep doing these 756 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 1: fire drills. Thanks for listening, and now it's on to 757 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,360 Speaker 1: the PJ Championship. That flip the calendar pretty quick. We 758 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:38,919 Speaker 1: get it. We get another major here in a few weeks. 759 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 1: So that's it for this podcast. We'll be back at 760 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 1: it again soon. Thanks. That's the end. Big played the win, 761 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 1: made a fortune, whip game. I ran the table, never 762 00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 1: thought I could fall, then win and hit me like 763 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 1: a cannon the ball And now I can't shake this 764 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:10,319 Speaker 1: losing the stream. Every road I take is a dead 765 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:16,239 Speaker 1: end stream. I got thoughts in my head, can't get 766 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 1: them out, Trying not to think what I'm thinking about. 767 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,359 Speaker 1: I got thoughts in my head, I can't get them out. 768 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 1: Trying not to think what I'm thinking about,