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Speaker 1: Hi everyone. I'm Rachel Zoe and I'm Roger Burman, and

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Speaker 1: you're listening to Or for Us, where we talk to

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Speaker 1: people about what works for them in their relationships and

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Speaker 1: of course what doesn't. Okay, So this is a very

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Speaker 1: very exciting episode for our listeners. For Roger and I,

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Speaker 1: today we're talking to a couple whose relationship actually has

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Speaker 1: a couple of decades on mine and Rogers, which we've

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Speaker 1: actually never gotten to say that. So married for forty

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Speaker 1: four years and together for over fifty, Susanne Summers and

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Speaker 1: Alan Hamill's romance is what relationship goals are truly made of,

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Speaker 1: and they make it look so effortless and fun. I

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Speaker 1: don't know how they do it, but hopefully we're going

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Speaker 1: to find that out today now. Susanne, of course, has

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Speaker 1: captured audiences, including us for decades in leading roles such

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Speaker 1: as Chrissie Snow on the hit show Da Come and

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Speaker 1: Not Go to? I mean I had to sing sorry,

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Speaker 1: there's no way many times have you heard that? How

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Speaker 1: annoying is that We're so sorry but we couldn't resist.

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Speaker 1: Nobody knows the lyrics we've been waiting for hers and

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Speaker 1: show many times, um Billions, Three's Company, and Carol Foster

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Speaker 1: Lambert on Step by Step. She's also penned multiple books,

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Speaker 1: hosted her own show, and created her own phenomenal line

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Speaker 1: and health products that you can find at Susanne Summers

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Speaker 1: dot com. Her longtime husband and business partner, God we

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Speaker 1: are so similar. Alan Hamill is a well known Canadian

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Speaker 1: game show host, actor, and producer who has hosted classics

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Speaker 1: shows such as Wedding Party, The Alan Hamill Show and

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Speaker 1: Anniversary Game. Alan has also partnered with his wife and

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Speaker 1: various business ventures some projects over the years, including, but

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Speaker 1: of course not limited to, the iconic Yes, we are

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Speaker 1: beyond excited, dear, all about your incredible relationship and how

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Speaker 1: you make it work. So I don't want to wait

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Speaker 1: one more second. Welcome to works for us, Suzanne and Alan,

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Speaker 1: we are so excited. Welcome to you. You're the famous

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Speaker 1: Roger Berman, are you? Apparently? I want to add a

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Speaker 1: little to brag about my husband. He was actually the

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Speaker 1: And when I met him, he was so famous. I

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Speaker 1: couldn't believe he wanted to take me out. You know,

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Speaker 1: when I met Rachel, she was so hot, I didn't

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Speaker 1: think she'd take me out. So I'm kind of right

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Speaker 1: there with you. No, but that, by the way, Can

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Speaker 1: I just say Canadians are like my favorite people? What

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Speaker 1: is just so much nicer from can every when I

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Speaker 1: meet it's just the kindest, friendliest, happiest, like giving, like amazing,

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Speaker 1: amazing people. I feel like we need to spend more

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Speaker 1: time in Canada. Yes we do you know anyone like that? Allen?

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Speaker 1: I don't know an what I wanted to ask when

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Speaker 1: Don't you live in California? Well Susanne does? Or how

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Speaker 1: did this whole How are you a Canadian star? But

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Speaker 1: You can someone explain that to me? To start? Allen? Sure,

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Speaker 1: when I met him, I was not Susanne Summers in

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Speaker 1: forty four which is how long before you started to

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Speaker 1: keep going with the story. This is a good story.

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Speaker 1: So like, so you walked up the next morning, and

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Speaker 1: what happened in my own bed? I slipped out, okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: like four o'clock in the morning, shames, why you wearing heels? Yes,

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Speaker 1: But we were blending families too. That is so hard.

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Speaker 1: a cohesive whole family when you're blended like that. But

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Speaker 1: we're there and it's really wonderful. I used to say, Susanne, Susanne,

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Speaker 1: you might need to go play some golf. And how

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Speaker 1: I love you guys. This is quick my favorite apple.

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Speaker 1: He was like the Canadian Johnny Carson. The man's funny.

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Speaker 1: I just want to point out some similarities. I love that.

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Speaker 1: Susanne's like, Okay, we need to blend the kids. We

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Speaker 1: we need to sort it out. Alan's like, can we

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Speaker 1: Roger does all the type and I have and these

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Speaker 1: God right, so no shake up? Right? So this is

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Speaker 1: a new one, okay. But the fighting was essential. I

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Speaker 1: and I just it's the best decision I've ever made.

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Speaker 1: She finally got a job. I'm merried of this woman.

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Speaker 1: she said yes. I wonder how many people say no.

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Speaker 1: completely not not in the right place. You know. One

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Speaker 1: of our kids describes our relationship as functionally codependent. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I think that's who we are. That's sort of us,

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Speaker 1: except I would say Rachel is a little more codependent.

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Speaker 1: Your codependent, your own way to kind of more subtle.

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Speaker 1: I could adopt, you could adapt instead of instead of

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Speaker 1: you making me coffee, I could easily get it myself.

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Speaker 1: I'm teasing, Oh, don't say that, Roger, Yeah, what do

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Speaker 1: I mean? I say that because I get the coffee, Susanne,

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Speaker 1: I'm the one that gets a coffee every morning. Starbucks. Please,

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Speaker 1: me because it doesn't exist. I think. I think having

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Speaker 1: of the reasons for a great marriage that Starbucks. But

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Speaker 1: you have to admit, Honey, for the first twenty years,

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Speaker 1: I was bringing it to you in bed. Now since

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Speaker 1: Starbucks has happened, he goes at six, I will say

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Speaker 1: one on this earth that provides like Rachel provides. I'm serious,

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Speaker 1: you have like anyway, but this is not about us.

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Speaker 1: It's about you, guys. So I want to hear about

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Speaker 1: him walking out king drink in his hand and the

426
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,919
Speaker 1: relaxed tie on his tuxedo. And he had he had

427
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: a big band, but sometimes he loved loved saloon gigs

428
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: where he had a small band. So I put together

429
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 1: a six piece band of my favorite musicians that I've

430
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 1: worked with over the years and add at our big

431
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,919
Speaker 1: Al's bar, Alan and I put the act together. I

432
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 1: would sing to him something and you know, when you're

433
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 1: sharing in Tequili, get real loose. And it was very,

434
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 1: very honest. And you know, when I mounted that show,

435
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 1: which Alan produced, I got the greatest reviews of my

436
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 1: entire career in vagues. In fact, the headline was Vegas

437
00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:02,120
Speaker 1: is Back, and I think that was no long This

438
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: was not a big electronic show. I walked out and

439
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: you know, you sing a song and then you talk

440
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: and you pick up the energy of the room and

441
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: you can kind of pick up the feeling of how

442
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 1: up they are, how down they are, and how much

443
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 1: you've got to do to get them right in that zone.

444
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 1: And um, it was a challenge every night for me

445
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 1: to talk to them in a way that if I

446
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: got this compliment after the show, I knew I succeeded.

447
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 1: When people would say to me, I felt like you

448
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: were talking just to me, and that's what I was

449
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,479
Speaker 1: trying to do, and clearly you did it, Susanne, Because

450
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 1: I just would like to share with our listeners that

451
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: you were named Las Vegas Female Entertainer of the year

452
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 1: in ninety six, which is a really big deal. God,

453
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 1: that's no big deal. Was male entertainer and I was

454
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,919
Speaker 1: female entertainers. So cool. That is maybe one of the

455
00:27:55,920 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: coolest things that ever heard. Oh see, after that, I

456
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: would be like, I'm done, I can retire. It can't

457
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 1: get better than this, right, I mean you know. Sinatra

458
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: was a friend of ours, both both Frank and Barbara,

459
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: and we lived. We lived very close to one another

460
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: and we would We didn't see them often, but when

461
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: we did it was a very special time. And so

462
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: we went to Frank's last performance at the McCallum Theater

463
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: in Palm Springs, and it was it was a very

464
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: sad experience because it was the end of his professional

465
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: life and he needed assistance to remember the lyrics to

466
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: songs he had sung all his life. And then afterwards,

467
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: he and Barbara invited us back to their home and

468
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: there were about a dozen other people, and Frank always

469
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: loved having music around him, so we had a little

470
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: trio playing and they were serving cocktails, and so I

471
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 1: went to the bathroom and when I came back, Susanne

472
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: is now singing with the trio. You've got balls of Steel,

473
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: bringing in Frank Sinatra's house to Frank, and I can't

474
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: think of anybody who would like that more than Frank. Yeah,

475
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: he's a he's an entertainer and I'm an entertainer. And

476
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: so you do what you do. You do what you do,

477
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: do what you do, You do what you do. And

478
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: so you mentioned, Susanne that Alan runs the business part,

479
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: how did you did you like, wake up one day

480
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: and decide to do together or how did that? How

481
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 1: did that genesis? Because that's the other question we get asked,

482
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: how did you do business together? And I think you

483
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: got sick of each other. You kill each other, as

484
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: we all know, and we tell people it's the best.

485
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: We roll around our business trip. We never have to

486
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: leave each other. Our business trips are us. It's amazing,

487
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: it's fun. Well, you know, I've always I've always had

488
00:29:55,840 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: a business of one kind or another. And U this

489
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: our business started the day she was fired from Three's company.

490
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 1: And the reason she was fired was because she wanted

491
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: to be paid what the men were making. They had

492
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: lesser shows than they were making ten to fifteen times

493
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 1: more money, and so I wouldn't to negotiate the deal.

494
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: Contract was up. What we did not know was that

495
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 1: Laverne and Shirley had gone in their contract. It was

496
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: up a month before, and they had gone in the

497
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: two together and had negotiated the most incredible deal for

498
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: themselves to continue doing the show. And the parent company

499
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 1: of ABC decided, you know what, we have to stop

500
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: women from asking to be paid what the men are making.

501
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 1: So let's fire it. The biggest female star in television,

502
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: and no woman will ask to be paid what the

503
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: men are making. And it worked for eight years style,

504
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: not one woman except until Rosanne came along. And Roseanne

505
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: is fearless. We know Rosanne really well. She used to

506
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: open for Suzanne in Vegas and she went into ABC.

507
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 1: She put a one page treatment on the table for

508
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: the show Roseanne. They looked at it, they said, we

509
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: love it, we want to do it, and she said, great,

510
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,479
Speaker 1: I want to be paid seven hundred and fifty thousand

511
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: dollars a week to start, And they laughed at her,

512
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: and she picked up the page and started moving toward

513
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: the elevator and they looked at each other and said,

514
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: what are we crazy? And they hired her and she

515
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: was the first woman to break through. And then after that,

516
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: I mean you know the deal that Friends made and said, yeah,

517
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 1: oh yeah, oh yeah. And anyway, in today's environment, you

518
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 1: couldn't get away with not paying women parody right for

519
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: what it's worth. When you were gone, I stopped watching it.

520
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: Of course everybody did, like the thing went in the garbage.

521
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: Eagle always spoils the best deals. Okay, it's sometimes money,

522
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: but it's usually ego. And the main producer said, when

523
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: ABC went to them and said this is what we

524
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: want to do, he said to them, not a problem.

525
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 1: I'll just bring in another blonde. I'll trainer like a seal,

526
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: and we'll just carry on. And as you know, they

527
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: brought in not just one blonde, but two blondes. And

528
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: unfortunately they didn't live up to what Chrissy Snow was

529
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: on the show, because it was about chemistry, chemistry with

530
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: John and chemistry with Joyce de wit. So. Unfortunately, the

531
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: guy from Cat's Television, which I think is some kind

532
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: of distribution situation for independent TV, he said to me

533
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: one day at a convention. He said, Suzanne being fired

534
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 1: from Three's Company was the greatest self inflicted wound in

535
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: the history of television. And the producers and the distributor

536
00:32:55,320 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: lost well over one billion dollars by doing it. When

537
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: we when I was on Three's company, Allen and I,

538
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: being business minded, we talk to them about, you know,

539
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: Chrissie Snow, um has a look, we should do a

540
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: line of clothing of hot pants and suspense socks and

541
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: slip on you know, snap on ponytails and do the

542
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: whole thing. And the producer, who I have a little

543
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: bit of the story about, said, this is not a

544
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: show about business, It's about the show. And I thought,

545
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: my day is called show business. Said Chrissie Snow should

546
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: have an animated Saturday morning cartoon show. And then another

547
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 1: time we went and said Chrissie Snow should be a

548
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: movie star the Adventures of Chrissie Snow. I mean, he

549
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: could see where all the little girls would come The

550
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: Adventures of Chrissy Snow. But also one day I got

551
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: a call from Steven Spielberg. He said, would be okay

552
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: if I came over to your house and spoke with

553
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: Suzanne about a role in a film that I'm doing.

554
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: So he came over on a Saturday afternoon and the

555
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,239
Speaker 1: two of them sat up on the roof who were

556
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 1: living on the beach in Venice in those days, and

557
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: they spent most of the afternoon together and then he

558
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: offered her the role, and it meant that Three Company

559
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: would have to start production a week later than with schedules.

560
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 1: And they said, absolutely not. We don't care who it

561
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: is and we're not starting a week later. So that

562
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: was that. So then the following year, we get a

563
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 1: call from Dustin Hoffmann's agent who says, Dustin is doing

564
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 1: a movie. He's got a great part for Suzanne and

565
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: would you guys come to New York and meet with Dustin.

566
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: So we go to New York and Susanne meets with

567
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: Dustin and again they would the schedule for Three Company

568
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: would have to move by a week. They said absolutely,

569
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: And I said, you guys are crazy. I said, do

570
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 1: you understand, like what this is going to do for

571
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: the show and everything else? They really never got it.

572
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 1: They were stuck and these but I think it also

573
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: was there was another complication. The producers were Nichols, Ross

574
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 1: and West and um, Mickey Ross. When I came into

575
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: the show, uh, you know, I had been discovered by

576
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,760
Speaker 1: Johnny Carson and um, that's kind of a wonderful story,

577
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: but I really had no acting experience, and so I

578
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: said on day one of the show, I just want

579
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 1: you to know that I've never really studied acting, although

580
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 1: I had the lead in Guys and Dolls in high school.

581
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: To the cast and the production throw on the first day,

582
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: you can hear yes. But what I was wanting to

583
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: say was I got I was the adelaide and Guys

584
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: and Dolls, and Walter Winchell heard about this high school

585
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 1: production and came. Walter Winchell was at that time like

586
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: the most famous radio show guy when radio shows were

587
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 1: hugh and far between, and he had a specific look.

588
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 1: He wore a tan raincoat and a pork pie hat.

589
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: And so Dave and Runyan, who wrote Guys and Dolls,

590
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 1: wrote one of the lead characters fashioned on Walter Winchell.

591
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: So Walter Winchell had heard about this high school production

592
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,399
Speaker 1: and came on closing night at the end of the show.

593
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: I don't know who he is. The drama teacher asked

594
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 1: us all to sit down on the stage and invises

595
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: Walter Winchell comes up on stage and comes right to

596
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: me and says, you're going someplace, sister. And because of

597
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 1: that I got his scholarship. But then I got good

598
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 1: castholic girl. I got pregnant within months. Person I ever

599
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: had sex, that's another whole story. So now back in

600
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 1: the Grace Company Claim the Threes Company rehearsal Hall, day one,

601
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 1: I say, I never have, but I got the leading

602
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: guys and dolls, and I could feel the darkness come

603
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:06,879
Speaker 1: over the room and I said, but I'm a real

604
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: fast learner, which I am, by the way. So this guy,

605
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: Micky Ross, took me under his wing, like remember maybe

606
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: a jump. But in the Olympics there was Nadia Komai

607
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: and her coach. She would do a flip in a

608
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: turn and she'd looked at him for approval and give

609
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,399
Speaker 1: her a thumbs up or a thus down. Yeah, that's

610
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: how I worked with this guy. He was an old

611
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: va villion. He taught me a lot. And it wasn't

612
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: too long after that. I said, I didn't realize that

613
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 1: during this time I was working with him, working with him,

614
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: that he had fallen in love with me. I could

615
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: have told you that. So I didn't realize that, and

616
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: I was very still naive. And in the middle of

617
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: year two, I was watching John Ritter. I went, oh,

618
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: I get it. Comedy is musical I'm musical. It's set up,

619
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 1: set up, beat. I totally understood the rhythm of bouncing

620
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: the line back to John, and we got so good

621
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: at that, like a pin ball. Gay. So I say

622
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 1: to Vicky Ross, this guy who had fallen in love

623
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 1: with any unbeknownst to me, I'm going to marry Alan Hamill. Well,

624
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: a darkness came over him and he told me I

625
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: was crazy, and I'm going to ruin my career and

626
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: how could you and all that, And from that moment

627
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: on he did everything he could to sabotage me. So

628
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: when Alan went into renegotiate six years later, guess who

629
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: renegotiated with any agency lawyers Mickey Foss and Alan told them,

630
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 1: as he repeats to me, you know, Suzanne's been on

631
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: fifty five national magazine covers most every year. She has

632
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 1: her own special. She's been on everybody else's special. She's

633
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: in demand. She's number one demographics, and the men are

634
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: being paid fifteen times more. So she'd like to be

635
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 1: paid with the highest paid man is. Mickey Ross stands up,

636
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,720
Speaker 1: He's smoking a cigarette the way someone would smoke a joint,

637
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 1: and he puts the cigarette on the floor and stumps

638
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 1: it out and walks over to Alan's chair, leans over

639
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: him and says, you want me to share my blood

640
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 1: with her? And Alan said yes, and I was fired. Wow,

641
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: that is a story. I was only in there for

642
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 1: less than five minutes, so at that time there were

643
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: no cell phones. So I'm waiting for Alan to come home.

644
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,439
Speaker 1: The night before, he had gotten a call from someone

645
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: at the CFOs office at ABC in New York and

646
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: said he didn't hear this from me, but they're going

647
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: to hang a un in the marketplace and it's going

648
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: to be Suzanne. In the morning. When Alan left, he

649
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: opened the front door uncharacteristically said look back at me,

650
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: and he said, you know this could all blow out

651
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 1: of the water. I said, no, it's a negotiation. You

652
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 1: asked for this, We counter you counter were you make

653
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 1: in the middle, and it's all gonna be great. So

654
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: I'm waiting at home, and I'm waiting and waiting, and

655
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: it's about three hours. And there's a way the front

656
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: door opens when it's good news, and there's a way

657
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 1: it opens when it's bad moods so true. So the

658
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,280
Speaker 1: door opens real slow, and I hear him slowly patting

659
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: up the stairs I met him at the landing. He

660
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: looked at me and he said, you're out. I said,

661
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: I'm out. He said yeah, he said they fired you

662
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 1: within five minutes. And then he took me by the

663
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: shoulders and he said, we're going to make this work

664
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:18,240
Speaker 1: for us, and and we did. He had a plan,

665
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: and he made my deal in Vegas for me, because

666
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: if the public couldn't see me on the air, they

667
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: all they clouted my showrooms. And that's probably why I

668
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: became Entertainer of the Year. And then I loved I

669
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 1: loved life performing so much that I didn't care if

670
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: I ever went back to TV. Sure. And then during

671
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 1: the day, when you're on the road with a nifebacked,

672
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 1: I had nothing to do, and so I started writing books.

673
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: And so twenty seven of them is not correct. Yeah, yeah,

674
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: that's insane. I've written two and I'm like just now

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696
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:34,399
Speaker 1: don't understand about writing books is they are labors of love. Yeah,

697
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: they are so much work and soul that go that

698
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: are poured into a book. So twenty seven of them

699
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: is just unreal. I just need to point that out.

700
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: Whereas we're talking about all negatives are opportunities. Twenty years ago,

701
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 1: I got breast cancer, and well, I was gonna I

702
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,959
Speaker 1: was gonna ask you about that next, because my grandmother, mother,

703
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: and sister have all had breast cancer sixty five, fifty five,

704
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:08,280
Speaker 1: and forty five. My mom is twenty five years clean

705
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 1: and my sister is almost eight years clean. We currently

706
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: do not have BROCA detected in any of us, which

707
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 1: is surreal. That's lucky there, and say, we'll see there

708
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: are hidden gifts in cancer. And I changed my life

709
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 1: when I got cancer. I didn't want to do the

710
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: whole chemical poisoning thing, and so I decided I would

711
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: change the way I ate. I would change the way

712
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: I thought it would change the way I slept. I

713
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 1: would change I would just make all positive choices in

714
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: my life, which has been so good. I grow my

715
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 1: own organic food, We eat quality food. I think it's

716
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 1: about the food, don't you, Yes, very much, very much.

717
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 1: And my kids constantly like, why do you Why is

718
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: everything we eat in this house have to be organic?

719
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: And it's like you didn't eat organic when you were

720
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: a little and I said, if my mother had a choice,

721
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,720
Speaker 1: she would have only chosen organic. It wasn't a choice.

722
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 1: Then that has a lot to do with our business

723
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 1: and why we created the certified toxic Pree skincare, haircare,

724
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: color cosmetics, household cleaning products, because I think we're all

725
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: walking around with a toxic burden. And if you can

726
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:25,800
Speaker 1: eliminate what you put on your skin and I e. Chemicals,

727
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: And if you can eat food that hasn't been sprayed

728
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: with poison. Who thought that was a good idea to

729
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 1: spray food with poison? And if you can clean your

730
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 1: house with non chemical household cleaners, and if you can

731
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 1: clean your air with a heap of filter or an

732
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:44,479
Speaker 1: IQ filter, you're ahead of the game. Because we're under

733
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 1: the engraved environmental assault in the history of humanity. And

734
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: there is an epidemic of cancer in children now. And

735
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:57,399
Speaker 1: I want to study. Last week about babies, they did

736
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 1: a study their first stool is loaded with plastic. That

737
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,919
Speaker 1: means all the plastic the mother's taking in probably doing

738
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: something good for usself drinking water out of plastic bottles,

739
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: But all those thallates end up in your GI tract.

740
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: And everyone has We have a product called Gut Renew,

741
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 1: and I'll tell you it came out of from my constituency.

742
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:29,280
Speaker 1: Our constituency. They started complaining about constipation and bloating and

743
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 1: dog tired and all the indicators of a screwed up

744
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: GI tract. So we made this that renew smoothie powder

745
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 1: that has all these different ingredients that you and I

746
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: haven't had today, marshmallow, root, p protein and all these things.

747
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 1: I can't think of them right now. That kind of works.

748
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 1: Like you know, the GI tract is the length of

749
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 1: a tennis court, and around it is this mucus. That

750
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: mucus is the immune system. So when the chemicals get

751
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: in your GI tract, they eat through that mucus. I eat,

752
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: lowering your immune system and create leaks. I eat leaky

753
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 1: gut and now all the all the bad stuff leaks

754
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 1: out into your bloodstream and and and eventually get something

755
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: to your brain. I'm sure that's why so many kids

756
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 1: have add and ADHD and OCD and dyslexi and dyspraxia

757
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: and then dimension in Alzheimer's. All these things. It's no accident.

758
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:31,720
Speaker 1: So we started, um, we made this uh smoothie powder

759
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,919
Speaker 1: that tastes delicious. That's that's the key thing. You can't

760
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: make a SMOOTHI powder that tastes like chalk. We're ordering

761
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: like seventy two tons a month of its christ It's

762
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: because everyone wants to look like you. Everyone wants to

763
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 1: be you. They're like, if I drink this, if I

764
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 1: eat like she does, if I do everything she's telling me,

765
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 1: am I going to be seventy five and look like

766
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: Suzanne sh No. I think it's a lot of that.

767
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: But I do have one question going back to breast cancer,

768
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 1: because you know, I said something this morning on my Instagram.

769
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: You know it's breast It's Breast cancer Awareness Month, but

770
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: for me, it's breast cancer Awareness Month every month, because

771
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: every day. I mean, as as you know. But I

772
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: think my question about breast cancer is how did you

773
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 1: go through this and approach this as a couple, Because

774
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: obviously there's a lot of strain and stress and emotion

775
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,760
Speaker 1: and things that it puts on a family when someone

776
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: is sick, and so you guys have obviously been through

777
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: a lot together. But I think I'm curious, you know,

778
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: just sort of how you dealt with that because now

779
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: you're obviously here stronger, bigger, more beautiful than ever so

780
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: and healthier, I imagine. So it is a gut punch

781
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: and it's the first time you deal with your own mortality.

782
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 1: We all think we're invincible. And I remember walking down

783
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: the beach with Alan that day after the diagnosis. We

784
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 1: wore talking and then I heard a voice in my

785
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 1: head and it said, I can handle this, and something

786
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 1: about it resonated. I thought, I can, I can handle this,

787
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: and then I really had to think, what have I

788
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 1: done in my diet in lifestyle to play host to

789
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 1: this terrible disease? And um, that's when I decided I'm

790
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:25,760
Speaker 1: going to change my life. Being on so many television series,

791
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 1: they have the craft table, what should be called the

792
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: craft It's loaded with Roger's favorite spot stuff, everything covered

793
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: in orange powder. There is no orange powder in nature.

794
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:48,320
Speaker 1: That's true. You mean goldfish, those goldfish, They even organic goldfish.

795
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: That's true. But but I wrote a book called Knockout

796
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 1: Doctor's Curing Cancer Without Drugs. This book will never stop

797
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 1: selling because it's all the doctors who have found protocols

798
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 1: to and hopefully beat cancer without drugs. And so I

799
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 1: followed the protocol of the doctor Nicholas Gonzales, and it's controversial,

800
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 1: but it was coffee animals and pancreatic enzymes. And I

801
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 1: said to him, why coffee animals. He said, well, the

802
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: liver is like a sponge. If you take the coffee

803
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 1: that way, he said, it kind of like squeezes the

804
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 1: chemicals out of the liver, and then the enzymes are

805
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 1: like little pac men and they eat the debris. Cancer's debris.

806
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 1: Chemicals are debris. And so when mine recurred, that's what

807
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 1: I did and got rid of it. And when I

808
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 1: had my breast regrowth was using my own stem cells.

809
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 1: The doctor had that's he's the doctor who found it

810
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,359
Speaker 1: in the other breast. And then at my opening night

811
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 1: in Vegas, he said to doctor Gonzalez because I had

812
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 1: gone on Gonzalez protocol, and this breast surgeon went back

813
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: in there and he said, if I hadn't seen it

814
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 1: with my own eyes, I wouldn't have believe it. He said,

815
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 1: there was nothing there, nothing, So, uh, it's a different

816
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 1: approach to cancer. I'm sorry you have it in your

817
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: family because it's going to chase you, I know, but

818
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:16,320
Speaker 1: I know it's beautible and diet is the biggest, huge

819
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 1: agree with that, I agree. Yeah, that organic food you

820
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: eat is saving your life. And if it recurs or

821
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 1: if you get it, um, it's it's your diet. And

822
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: read my book Knockout. I'm going to read all twenty

823
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: seven of them. I'm just saying, but I do want

824
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 1: to ask, because I think it would be crazy if

825
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 1: we didn't. The first infomercial I ever was made aware

826
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 1: of was turning on my TV at some ungodly hour

827
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 1: hearing your beautiful voice, looking your perfect body using this

828
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 1: thigh master. We might have been wearing those egs at

829
00:50:54,719 --> 00:51:00,359
Speaker 1: the time. Remember those thick socks. I feel like early days,

830
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: that's what the look was if I remember correctly. But okay,

831
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,800
Speaker 1: so Roger and I need to know why why the

832
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 1: thighmaster who came up with the idea of the first thing?

833
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: We need to know that. Alan tell you the business

834
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: part of it, but I'll tell you how what happened

835
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: for me. I bought a pair of Manola blondic shoes.

836
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:21,439
Speaker 1: It was my first pair of nude super pointy toe,

837
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: toad cleavage, high arch. I have a high arch, and man,

838
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 1: it made my legs look amazing. But there are five

839
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:33,280
Speaker 1: minutes and sixty five dollars back then, and I said

840
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: to myself, I'm in my dressing with that. Ellen's gonna

841
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 1: think I'm so stupid for spending this much money on

842
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 1: a pair of shoes. So I walk out in my

843
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,919
Speaker 1: underpants and bra and my new high heels, and I said,

844
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: how do you like my new shoes? And he looks

845
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 1: at me and he goes great legs, and I went,

846
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 1: oh my god, that's the commercial. So now and you

847
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:54,720
Speaker 1: tell me the rest. Okay. So a guy I knew

848
00:51:55,360 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: from Canada called me and said, I've got this device.

849
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 1: It's an exercise device. It was invented by a Swedish

850
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: doctor and she's had it for fifteen or twenty years

851
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 1: and she doesn't know how to sell it. Can we meet?

852
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 1: So we met and I looked at this thing, and

853
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: it wasn't called a thime master. It was called a

854
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: V as in Victor v Toner because it was shaped

855
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 1: like a V and it was an upper body workout,

856
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: and the idea was that if you used it, your

857
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: upper body would be shaped like a V. Okay, v Toner.

858
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 1: So I said, okay, leave it with us. So for

859
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 1: the next two or three weeks we played with it

860
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 1: and Suzanne put it between her knees and she said

861
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,839
Speaker 1: to the guy, is this good for thighs? He said, oh, yeah,

862
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 1: it's good for thighs, but it's an upper body workout.

863
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: So he goes away, and we then decided, you know what,

864
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:57,479
Speaker 1: nobody cares about their upper body the way women care

865
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: about their thighs. So let's give this a name. Let's

866
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 1: get rid of the gray paint on this thing, give

867
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: it a new color combination, give it a marketing plan.

868
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 1: And we argue about this. Who gave it the name?

869
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 1: Simester Rachel and I fight over this stuff all the time.

870
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's amazing, So I'll give it to her. Okay,

871
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:29,800
Speaker 1: although I don't believe it. This is exactly our conversation,

872
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:33,320
Speaker 1: favorite person. This is part of the success of our marriage, okay,

873
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 1: saying yes, happy wife, happy life. And the other thing

874
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 1: that works in our marriage is soon as she opens

875
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: her eyes in the morning, I wake up before she does.

876
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 1: I wait for her to wake up. Soon as she

877
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 1: opens her eyes, I say I'm sorry, I'm sorry, okay,

878
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 1: And that could fill around two or three o'clock. And

879
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:55,919
Speaker 1: then I say it again, and that takes me through

880
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 1: the cocktail time. So that's one of the big where

881
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 1: was I? This is? This is Alan lying? Okay? My

882
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,439
Speaker 1: father Alan, For what it's worth, my dad. My parents

883
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 1: have been together fifty five years. They're still this Thanksgiving,

884
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:17,399
Speaker 1: and my dad would probably say the same thing. Look,

885
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:20,919
Speaker 1: how look how your relationship is marrying that. Oh there's

886
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 1: the front door, Susan, that's your guy, that's my I guy.

887
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:28,959
Speaker 1: I'll finish the interview. Okay, you finished there, so Susan, Alan,

888
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 1: thank you, Alan, thank you. He's gone, okay, all right,

889
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:35,359
Speaker 1: all right, So it's gonna be hard playing the newly

890
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 1: wed game with Alan, but it's okay. So what's your advice?

891
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,359
Speaker 1: I mean, I think Alan is starting to allude to it,

892
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 1: but I think most of the people that listen really

893
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:46,240
Speaker 1: want to know, like how do I get what they have?

894
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 1: And I guess the question is, you know, what are

895
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:51,760
Speaker 1: the secrets or what are the learnings? I think it's simple.

896
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 1: We give each other a lot of attention. He must

897
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 1: tell me I'm beautiful twenty times a day. I probably

898
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: say the same thing to him. I I love to

899
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 1: look at him, he loves to look at me. We

900
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 1: love everything about each other, and we tell each other

901
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 1: all the time. So you're just constantly feeling reaffirmed and

902
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:14,280
Speaker 1: feel great about yourself and um great for one another's

903
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 1: self esteem. And then I feed him well, by the way,

904
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 1: this is this is pretty similar, che doesn't I told

905
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 1: you you look the best now that you've ever looked.

906
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 1: I tell you that all the time. Yeah, he's a

907
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 1: six pack is l Oh, you're so sweet, I do

908
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 1: tell Rachel, she's been every single day, every single day

909
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 1: for twenty You've had a vertiful career. Rachel, really, thank

910
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 1: you your name listen out there for so long. Thank you.

911
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 1: I really appreciate that coming from you. It means so

912
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 1: much because you're such a hero. I can't thank you enough.

913
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 1: We can't thank you enough for taking the time. You

914
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 1: are literally a champion inspiration you know. Also business you

915
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you're so successful and you did it

916
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 1: on your own terms, which I love. And that's the

917
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 1: key takeaway. And you've got to be a warrior in

918
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:08,359
Speaker 1: this business. I don't mean argumentative as a warrior, just

919
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:12,320
Speaker 1: strong and tough and when the big fist comes, you

920
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 1: turn right or left. Our careers are cyclical, and that

921
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 1: they're high and low and high and low. It's real

922
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 1: easy in the high times, real easy. But it's the

923
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 1: load times that is your greatest opportunity because you have

924
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: finally have time to think. And in all of my

925
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 1: load times, I've just used them to rethink what it

926
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,399
Speaker 1: is that I'm doing and where I can take it.

927
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 1: And I never ever thought that I would be one

928
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 1: of the leaders in the health industry. But when you

929
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 1: write so many books, you get smarter. And I'm very

930
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 1: proud that I started the bioidentical hormone movement because it's

931
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:58,760
Speaker 1: now global and just recently I lectured to six thousand

932
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 1: doctors teach them about hormone replacement using natural hormones and

933
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 1: how it can extend your life. We are now living

934
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 1: in a world where routine to live it well into

935
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 1: your nineties, so that's called life extension. They'll keep us

936
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 1: alive no matter what, no matter how. A lot of

937
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 1: people are alive, but they're not alive, you know what

938
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 1: I mean. Yeah, But my most recent book is called

939
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 1: A New Way to Age and the essential messages that

940
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 1: aging is about worn out parts. So you pay attention

941
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 1: to the language of your body, like for hormone deficiencies.

942
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 1: I call it the Seven Dwarves and menopause, itchy, bitchy, sleepy, sweaty, loaded, forgetful,

943
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 1: and I'll dried up. When you're itchy, when you're sweaty,

944
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 1: when you can't sleep, when your hair is stringing, when

945
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 1: you're getting premature wrinkles, that's your body talking to you.

946
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 1: And so you do lab work so it's not guessing

947
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 1: you're not throwing hormones. Do lab work to see where

948
00:57:56,960 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 1: your hormonal levels are, where your nutrient level are, where

949
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 1: your mineral levels are, and you can like tweak it,

950
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 1: you know, put back what you've lost in the aging process.

951
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 1: So that's how I do it, not so much to

952
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 1: look good on the outside, although a manifests that way.

953
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 1: I want to keep my insides young because that's how

954
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 1: I can stay in good health for the longest period

955
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 1: of time. So that's been a very, very rewarding thing

956
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 1: that probably wouldn't have happened if I stayed in the

957
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 1: sitcom world. I was real good at it, but it

958
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 1: was time to go, Wow, Susanna, I want to tell

959
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 1: you something. I'm starting to think that we're kindred souls.

960
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 1: You just said, warrior, and that is when I say

961
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 1: the campaign that I use for the last I don't

962
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 1: know five ten years at least. Like I use the

963
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 1: word warrior because I say all women are warriors. We

964
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 1: actually just created a bag that I'm clearly going to

965
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 1: send you for breast cancer awareness that says all women

966
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 1: are warriors. And I always say it's like a hashtag

967
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 1: I use all the time. One of my fragrances is

968
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 1: called warrior because I know that. Yeah, because I really

969
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 1: believe that all women are warriors. You may not realize

970
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 1: it until later in life. I know I didn't realize

971
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 1: it until later in life. But I always say, you

972
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 1: don't know how strong we we actually are until we

973
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 1: have to be that strong. Yeah, they shake ups are

974
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 1: the opportunity. Correct. Agreed. Agreed. Well, I just want to

975
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 1: thank you again because you are really like no other

976
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 1: and I feel I feel changed as a person. I agree.

977
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 1: I feel We're going to start reading one of your

978
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 1: twenty seven books this week. Yeah, just so you're aware,

979
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 1: I'm going to read it to Rachel because she's not

980
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 1: really going to read the book. I'm totally reading her books.

981
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 1: There's books on tape. Thank you so much, Seriously, I'm

982
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 1: blown away. I'm changed as a person. I feel like

983
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 1: I just had a spiritual experience. Meant I feel so

984
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 1: a cleanse. I just feel harder, I feel stronger, I

985
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 1: feel like an invincible woman. I feel like that was

986
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 1: the happiest marriage I've ever seen in my life. I

987
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 1: think that might be our number one marriage so far.

988
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 1: Can we just aim for that because they're twenty years

989
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 1: ahead of us in marriage, and they're exactly twenty years

990
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 1: ahead of us in being together. They're fifty years together

991
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 1: and forty four years married. So can we aim for this?

992
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 1: Let's plans five o'clock cocktail. Well, we do that. You

993
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 1: keep telling me I'm beautiful, let's not. Let's not fail that.

994
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 1: I have to tell you you're beautiful more obviously, that's

995
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 1: I own that. I own that. I own it. Just

996
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 1: quite while your head, don't make a comment. I'm just

997
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 1: trying to tell you, honey, actions speak louder than words.

998
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 1: So rather than say it, I just said I own it. Now,

999
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 1: you're going to ruin it now I want to do it.

1000
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 1: Show me how much you love me, snooze. So anyway,

1001
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 1: by the way, let's just can we just they work together?

1002
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 1: Just give Alan the dude that he deserves. I mean,

1003
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 1: he is the man. I mean he was like Frank Sinata,

1004
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 1: but he's like, I'm overcounted. I'm just gonna, you know,

1005
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 1: zip down into like la. Oh by the way, I'm

1006
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 1: just like, oh, the most beautiful woman in la. Yep,

1007
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 1: there we go. And it's like amazing. I think he's

1008
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 1: like the man and he's so smart business us smart.

1009
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just smart together, you know, I think they.

1010
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 1: I think they. It's funny. It's like sort of like

1011
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 1: you and I like we're kind of smarter together because

1012
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 1: we can, you know, sort of like you got two fronts.

1013
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 1: You got the creative front and the business front at

1014
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 1: the same time, and you know, as long as you're aligned,

1015
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 1: like they certainly are, it seems like you get some

1016
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 1: more strength from that. I could have literally spoken to

1017
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 1: them and told tomorrow, I agree, Like I had so

1018
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 1: many more questions, a thousand more, and we didn't even

1019
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 1: play the newlywed game with them that we don't even

1020
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 1: need it. I feel like they're living the newlywed games. Oh,

1021
01:01:57,960 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 1: it's amazing. Well they you know what, they would act

1022
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 1: get everything right. It would be annoying, but also like

1023
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 1: the irony for me is that Chrissie Snow if you

1024
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 1: think about the irony of her life, how it turned out,

1025
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 1: and what the character she played was. Because she played

1026
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 1: this like beautiful, ditzy blonde character, and she's the polar

1027
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 1: opposite of ditzy. She lectured to six thousand doctors, I'm

1028
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 1: pretty sure you can't be a dumb dumb exactly twenty

1029
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 1: seven books? Did I repeat twenty seven books? Thigh Masters.

1030
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 1: They're crushing it. And it's not like they're out there

1031
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 1: being like, oh, we're crushing it. They're just quiet and happy.

1032
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 1: I love it. Good for them. I have to say

1033
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 1: that episode. I've loved all of our episodes, but I'm

1034
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:56,919
Speaker 1: just gonna go with this might be my favorite. There's

1035
01:02:56,960 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 1: also a ton of nostalgia because you know, she just

1036
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 1: touched Frank Sinatra. She performed and they were friends. Frank Sinatra.

1037
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 1: He had with Frank Sinatra, pumps ring many of them.

1038
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 1: Do you know how shake that is? Oh? My god?

1039
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 1: What do you think they were wearing? I didn't even

1040
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 1: get to ask that question. I wanted to ask what

1041
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 1: do they wear? I wanted to ask Alan what she

1042
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 1: was wearing his first first time he saw her, if

1043
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 1: he remembered. But I guarantee you here remember I'm sure

1044
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 1: he did that. But I also do you know what

1045
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 1: else I loved? I have to say before before I

1046
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 1: move on. I loved how candid they were. I loved

1047
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 1: how honest they were, unapologetically honest. They weren't hiding anything,

1048
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 1: they were full. Everything was on the table this day.

1049
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 1: It's funny the way he said where she was fired,

1050
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 1: like it's a very like most people like wouldn't even

1051
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 1: use those words. It's just so transparent. It wasn't like sugar, No,

1052
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 1: this is what happened, is what we did about that,

1053
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 1: and this is what we learned from it. It was like,

1054
01:03:57,120 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 1: I agree, so refreshing, but why didn't you agree that

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Speaker 1: our lowest points have changed us and made us. Like

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Speaker 1: for me, my lowest points of my life and career

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Speaker 1: made me better and stronger because it I refocused and

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Speaker 1: really like, it gives you that time to really think. Right,

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Speaker 1: that's I mean, in a weird way, that's kind of

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Speaker 1: what COVID did for a lot of people. That's how

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Speaker 1: are we going to reinvent ourselves? What's the next version

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Speaker 1: of ourselves? And we want to be this version for

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Speaker 1: the next ten years. And I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: people thought about that and said, M maybe not, but

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Speaker 1: I loved how honest she was about blending families, because

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Speaker 1: I think not that many people are that honest about

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Speaker 1: that and how hard that is actually, you know, and

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Speaker 1: I really appreciated that. If you liked what you heard

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Speaker 1: so far, we have we're pretty obsessed with it, just

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Speaker 1: relationship stories, and we're planning to share our favorites on

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Speaker 1: the podcast. You can also ask us for a relationship advice,

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Speaker 1: although we can't stress enough that we are not actually experts,

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Speaker 1: but we'll still take your questions. So if you want

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Speaker 1: to share your story or ask us a question, give

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Speaker 1: We want to leave you, of course, with a little

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Speaker 1: highlight and low light from our week. In relationships, the

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Speaker 1: bad comes with the good, and so this is our

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Speaker 1: time to mention a little bit of both, Babe, high

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Speaker 1: and low. Well, I think the low light of my

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Speaker 1: week is certainly the fact that a good friend of

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Speaker 1: mine's father passed away. And I'm going to go to

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Speaker 1: the few role and you know, every time something like

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Speaker 1: this happens, it's sort of just you sort you know,

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Speaker 1: thinking about your own mortality a little, I think, and

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Speaker 1: everyone else is around you. And he was just an

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Speaker 1: amazing guy. So you know, I want to obviously go

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Speaker 1: to New York and just to just to sort of

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Speaker 1: clarify that it's one of his best friends from when

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Speaker 1: he was four years old who's still one of his

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Speaker 1: best friends, because Roger keeps his friends for life. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and his father. But anyways, that's certainly a low light, um,

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Speaker 1: and I think a highlight, I'm going to kind of

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Speaker 1: go back to the kids. I mean, I'm just loving

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Speaker 1: the kids these days and how they're thriving. Yeah, they're thriving.

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Speaker 1: But I mean the fact that Sky there sent me

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Speaker 1: a video yesterday after his football game because he was

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Speaker 1: proud of the play he made was just delicious. I

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Speaker 1: was in the car with him and he's like, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna call daddy and tell him I got the flag

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Speaker 1: called the MVP. The fact that he wants to call

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Speaker 1: his daddy because me looking at it and being proud

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Speaker 1: of him is important to him, is like, it's so amazing.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how to explain it, but that was

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Speaker 1: a real highlight. The low light for me was that

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Speaker 1: my nephew was visiting, which we're all so excited about

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Speaker 1: and had all these plans, and then he got a

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Speaker 1: stomach virus for twenty four hours, which took him down

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Speaker 1: more like forty eight hours. He was in the room

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Speaker 1: from Friday to Sunday. We kind of locked him in

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Speaker 1: there in isolation because obviously a germ these days you

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Speaker 1: have too my guests is a guest until they have

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Speaker 1: the stomach bug an enemy. So that was a low light.

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Speaker 1: But he's back on track and he's feeling great. Okay,

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Speaker 1: highlight for me besides that I get to watch skyplay

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Speaker 1: flag football and all of that good stuff, and how

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Speaker 1: exciting that was for him to be called the MVP

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Speaker 1: for the first time in his life. I have to

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Speaker 1: say this podcast was an absolute highlight for me, I

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Speaker 1: have the biggest smile on my face. The fact that

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Speaker 1: Susanne Summers knows who I am and knows about my career.

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Speaker 1: It's the most It's not an amazing Rachel. I was

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Speaker 1: thinking that too. She's like, Rachel, what a great brand

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Speaker 1: you've been out there for so long? Wow? Like wow,

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Speaker 1: So so that me knows what I've done? You know

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Speaker 1: that anything about me? I know that means that. Like

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Speaker 1: Susanne Summers during her day, like one day, was like

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Speaker 1: reading saying like, oh that Rachel Zoega. Wow. Good for her,

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Speaker 1: Like that's amazing, Rachel. You should be proud of herself

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Speaker 1: and I should feel the way I typically feel, which

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Speaker 1: is terrible because she didn't know my name and she

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Speaker 1: was looking forward to meeting me. So that's how I

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Speaker 1: live my life, Rachel, even though we do the same

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Speaker 1: things and I worked just as hard. Maybe you should

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Speaker 1: remember you said you never like you wanted to be

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Speaker 1: rich and anonymous. Remember, yeah, well college, when we were

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Speaker 1: in college, everyone said, rog, what do you want to do? Said,

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Speaker 1: I don't care. I want to be rich in anonym.

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Speaker 1: That's fine with me, So there you go. Yeah, said though,

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Speaker 1: because she didn't name and I seem to be really hurried.

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Speaker 1: I just try to acknowledged thanks for listening, everybody, that's

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Speaker 1: my insane husband. Bye sixteen