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Speaker 1: I listened to the Black Guy Who Tips podcast because

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Speaker 1: Rod and Karen are hot.

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Speaker 2: I'm feeling like New Zealand charged it to the amex.

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Speaker 2: Gotta use that latex. So she living like a princess.

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Speaker 2: They don't wake you up in private. Let a nigga sleep.

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Speaker 2: I got houses on the mountain. Man Will Smith lived

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Speaker 2: assholes stacking something dummy every verse. I got got cash

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Speaker 2: flow modicoach. They love me. I'm wearing something ugly, but

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Speaker 2: they don't know on'm risto, so my duat looking stuffy. Hey,

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Speaker 2: welcome to the Black Autels podcast, your host Rod and Karen,

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Speaker 2: and we're in a house on Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: Is that right?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Does that one day? It is everybody? It all blends

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Speaker 2: together when you have fun, That's what I'm saying. But

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Speaker 2: we are in the house on a Tuesday. Oh, that's

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Speaker 2: right because Karen was off yesterday on the Monday.

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Speaker 1: That's right, so it throwed my work were golf too?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you being here anyway. Uh if we are,

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Speaker 2: about to go live and all those things. The official

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Speaker 2: bullet ball Extreme and today Mark's day number? What day?

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Speaker 2: Is it a lot five to seventy three for Barbi

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Speaker 2: say bulletball Extreme? I don't remember extreme? Yeah, billiballis y'all

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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Uh, Like I said, it's all

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Speaker 2: blending together. But yeah, it's Uh, it's a big day.

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Speaker 2: A lot of stuff has been happening, a lot of news.

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Speaker 2: So we'll you know, it's just me and Karen like this.

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Speaker 2: We'll get right into it and tomorrow, if everything goes right,

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Speaker 2: we should have guests from a new a podcast that

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Speaker 2: you guys been or may not be familiar with. It's

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Speaker 2: called Medium Popcorn and uh, you guys already know, uh

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Speaker 2: Brandon Collins, who's one half of the comedy Outliers, who

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Speaker 2: you know. Hopefully you guys are familiar with. I hope

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Speaker 2: I love yeah. And then he has a new He

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Speaker 2: don't know if him Michael related. We will ask tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: but his name is Justin Brown and they do a

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Speaker 2: show called Medium Popcorn, which, for my money, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I know there's a lot of shows out there. Best

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Speaker 2: theme song in podcasts in period? Can I please play?

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Speaker 2: You guys are opening things. I think I think you

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Speaker 2: We you to dig us fall Bo Brandy Cordes chasing

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen it. Well, we're gonna apport it, spoil

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Speaker 2: It's so good. I binged all the episodes. It's crazy y'all.

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Speaker 2: At any rate, hopefully they'll be here tomorrow. And I

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Speaker 2: know for sure I'll be on that podcast for next

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Speaker 2: Raw, move a your fiza to Daddy Green's pizza.

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Speaker 1: Okay, catches bulls with his teeth, catches bullus with his teeth, nigga,

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Speaker 2: Eating popcorn with chopsticks. Yes, at any rate, we'll be

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Speaker 2: The uh why does all lives matter? Offensive? How come

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Speaker 2: when Alanister says Lanison never never forgets his debts, always

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Speaker 2: explaining shit to them like Game of Thrones. Yeah, And

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Speaker 2: Thros remember that, and they'd be like, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: To everyone here and everyone.

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Speaker 5: I was proud of the campaign we ran. It was

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Speaker 5: And so does the Democratic Party, because you know what,

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Speaker 2: And I said, absolutely not. I would not like to

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Speaker 2: That's not like hell, like he's tone deaf racist just

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Speaker 2: Like that's not good enough, man. I wouldn't hang out

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Speaker 1: We won't we won't burn you, We'll just hang you, bitch.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I almost got got that, you know, position basically,

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Speaker 1: Not one commercial, not one commercial flashed on my TV.

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Speaker 2: I said, yes, that was one.

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Speaker 1: I saw a commercial, just one. I'm sorry, I take

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Speaker 1: And it was thirty forty five seconds. Oh, I'm Bernie

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Speaker 2: means later. The point being, Bernie ain't got no future. No,

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Speaker 1: He don't like and like I said, you real, calm,

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Speaker 2: You right, Well, you've been like that for a long time.

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Speaker 2: If he would have got the nomination, I would have

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Speaker 2: when people have jobs, when people don't have jobs. It

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Speaker 2: affects more than just can someone get a job, but

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Speaker 2: what kind of job is it? How much do they

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Speaker 2: get paid for that job? Things of this nature. You know,

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Speaker 2: he had no problem promising ways to get women equal pay,

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Speaker 2: but you know who else don't get equal pay? Black people?

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Speaker 2: You know who else don't get equal pay. Women who

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Speaker 2: aren't white get less than that, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: So like education, but a lot of that for education

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Speaker 1: wouldn't go to HBCUs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't know the end and workings of

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Speaker 2: his free education platform. To be quite honest, I knew

446
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Speaker 2: he was going to attack Wall Street percentage on some

447
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Speaker 2: of their transactions. I don't know how to money would

448
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Speaker 2: have been allotted, you know, maybe just the public universities.

449
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Speaker 2: But you know, we'll see at the point we won't

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Speaker 2: see now, but the point being the vote was up

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Speaker 2: for grabs. And this article goes to detail how his

452
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Speaker 2: former staffers say the campaign, and it's gonna find sound

453
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Speaker 2: real familiar for people who've listened to the show for

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Speaker 2: a while. And remember a couple of months ago when

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Speaker 2: we recovered and fucking with Black people, the GOLP, the

456
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Speaker 2: black voters of the GOLP and the black outreach staffers

457
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Speaker 2: said their funding was cut and they all pretty much left.

458
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Speaker 2: There was only one guy left doing all the work

459
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Speaker 2: because everyone else went on to other things because they

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Speaker 2: never got the money to do black outreach. They were

461
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Speaker 2: promised all this money to get the black vote out,

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Speaker 2: especially after they lost in twenty twelve to Obama. There

463
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Speaker 2: was just like, well black people just don't know and

464
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Speaker 2: we need to do more outreach. And they immediately didn't

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Speaker 2: get any funding that you know, even though they created

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Speaker 2: these groups and these outreach programs, nothing was ever done

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Speaker 2: with them. And they were hot, they were and more

468
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 2: than hot were they were sad. They were let down,

469
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 2: like you promised this and we didn't get it. And

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Speaker 2: this is what's very similar, because these staffers basically said

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Speaker 2: that they didn't get the resources they needed. They never

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Speaker 2: figured out how to connect the black audiences and that

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Speaker 2: marginalized black media. He was kind of afraid to do

474
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Speaker 2: black media. Ask Elon James White about that. Come on, dog,

475
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 2: because Black voters were frustrated with the current crop of

476
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Speaker 2: candidates and couldn't wait to jump ship to somebody. But

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Speaker 2: you have to make the case, you know, And you know,

478
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 2: I've seen all kinds of excuses. Even still in the

479
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Speaker 2: wake of this utter failing and his own staff telling

480
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Speaker 2: you he failed, I've seen people be like, well, black

481
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Speaker 2: media didn't do it enough. The media never does the

482
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Speaker 2: candidates work for him, unless it's somebody like Trump whose

483
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Speaker 2: entire platform is to be on TV. But the media

484
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 2: won't do your work for you. No one's stopping you

485
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Speaker 2: from doing interviews, No one's stopping you from making the

486
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Speaker 2: case yourself. No one's stopping us, dude. He decided not

487
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 2: to do certain things. But Sanders was claubate ro Hillary

488
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Speaker 2: Clinton among black voters in state after state after state,

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Speaker 2: including some where Sanders either won white voters or lost

490
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Speaker 2: them narrowly. The gap made it all but impossible for

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Speaker 2: him to win the nomination. While his staff did believe

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Speaker 2: that he was sincere Roy Tatum, the campaign's former deputy

493
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 2: director for African American outreach, said but he said that

494
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Speaker 2: he felt that neither campaign manager Jeff Weaver nor other

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Speaker 2: high ranking figures throughout Sanders thought Sanders could overcome Hillary's

496
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Speaker 2: appeal to Black voters. I think they felt that the

497
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Speaker 2: relationship with Hillary was so strong that they didn't have

498
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Speaker 2: confidence in doing much of anything to change it. Some

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Speaker 2: people felt he had a better chance of winning the

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Speaker 2: Latino vote and the millennial vote than the Black vote.

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Speaker 2: And anyone who knows black voters and Sanders clearly didn't

502
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Speaker 2: knows that Clinton did not have them on lock. Black

503
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 2: people started with a better relationship with her, But familiarity

504
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 2: doesn't equal votes, right. She also lost to Barack Obama

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Speaker 2: in eight yeah, no, eight yeah.

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Speaker 1: Because she pulled the same tactic he did.

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Speaker 2: Votes well, not just that, but you know, it was

508
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 2: it was what about the familiarity? And Black people were

509
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 2: voting for her at first, but he treved to be

510
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Speaker 2: a better candidate, and he was making the case for

511
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Speaker 2: racial issues much more eloquently than she was, and people

512
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 2: gravitated towards He gives a speech on race, and people

513
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 2: go whoa, who's this dude? You know, like that's it

514
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 2: doesn't take much. De moralized by police killings, left even

515
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 2: further behind by economic gating, equality, hell back for generations

516
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 2: by structural racism, black people were prime for a political revolution.

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Speaker 2: Sanders was ready to lead one from the time he

518
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Speaker 2: announced his campaign at a twenty fifteen his crusade against

519
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Speaker 2: economic inequality, galvanizing the sleeping sector of the populace that

520
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 2: felt left out of the political price, but saying to

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00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 2: seldom trained that same impassioned rhetoric on problems that so

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Speaker 2: many black voters wanted to dress police brutality, white supremacy,

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Speaker 2: in the ways in which economic inequalities is inextricable from race.

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Speaker 2: It may have been white privilege, or simply cultural ignorance

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Speaker 2: of Black people in our plights. Well, how could he

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Speaker 2: be ignorant our culture when all he does is protests

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Speaker 2: for us every day? The Vermont senator who built a

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Speaker 2: movement on lofty promises like universal health care, free college,

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Speaker 2: the Smith's reparations for black people as very divisive, always

530
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Speaker 2: devisive when to get to us, he said, at one point,

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Speaker 2: white people need what Yeah, white people should get reparations too,

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Speaker 2: He appeared not to realize you can't simply deliver the

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Speaker 2: same speech on economic equality to a room full of

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Speaker 2: black people in Atlanta that you would to a room

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Speaker 2: full of white people in Iowa. For African Americans, he

536
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 2: never connected the dots from a practical perspective. Terror Daldell Dubell,

537
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 2: a political strategist who has worked local, state, and federal campaigns,

538
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 2: told me how could this measurably improve your life? And

539
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 2: his color blind approach to economics ignores the fact that

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Speaker 2: this is the United States of America with policy and

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Speaker 2: economics and race are toded. Put it another way, it

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Speaker 2: takes more than March with MLK to win black votes. Yes, sir,

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Speaker 2: you know it. Basically, you know he didn't put the

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Speaker 2: money into it, and that just killed him. We had

545
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 2: to go through so many hoops to get resources. It

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Speaker 2: felt like we had to fill out credit card applications

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Speaker 2: every time we asked for something. Tatum told me on

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Speaker 2: the phone. That's how it felt. Tatum said he and

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Speaker 2: Marcus Farrell, the former African American outreach director for the campaign,

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Speaker 2: had access to Weaver, but he said it felt as

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Speaker 2: though neither Weaver nor other high ranking figures in the campaign,

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Speaker 2: ever believed saying just had a shot winning black voters

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Speaker 2: from Clinton. Pharaoh declined to discuss that his time with

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Speaker 2: Sanders campaign. When I reached out for comment, Weaver did

555
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Speaker 2: not respond to repeat the requests for comment. So, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's you know, it's not it's not to me that

557
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Speaker 2: it was. It's never rocket sized. And for the people

558
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 2: that wanted to argue about the shit, man, well look,

559
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 2: this is the people on the inside telling you the

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00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 2: same thing.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: The dude just did not make the connections. You know,

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Speaker 2: just like the fact that you want to talk about

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Speaker 2: Wall Street corruption, Well, the entire collapse of eight and

565
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 2: seven was based on these faulty home loans that targeted.

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Speaker 1: Who black people?

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Speaker 2: Right, So racism started this economic crisis, and you can't

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Speaker 2: make the connection. This is your area of expertise. This

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Speaker 2: is something that not only are your white millennial anti

570
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Speaker 2: establishment people gonna get upset about, but it's something Black

571
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Speaker 2: people get very upset about to this day, and many

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Speaker 2: many politicians have never made that connection. But you could

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Speaker 2: have you get people talking that way. You know, how

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Speaker 2: was it gonna change your message that much to be like,

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00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 2: oh and yeah, it was racist too, like it was

576
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 2: not enough reason to be mad at wall Street already

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00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 2: throw that in there too, man, how do you not

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Speaker 2: do that? So yeah, he also talked to Danny Glover,

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Speaker 2: Not that Danny Glover, not that one. Uh, but yeah,

580
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Speaker 2: he was at he was in twenty fifteen. Well in

581
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Speaker 2: the spring, he joined the campaign as a director for

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Speaker 2: outreach to his historically black colleges and universities HBCUs. He

583
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Speaker 2: believed he could help pull millions of young black people

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Speaker 2: into senators the senator's cause. As a black progressive, Glover

585
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 2: was drawn to Sander's message of free college this manland

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Speaker 2: wall Street directify economic and equalities. Surely, Glover believed he

587
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Speaker 2: could get his black students to feel the same enthusiasm

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Speaker 2: for senators as the young white folks who screening the

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Speaker 2: senator's name and packed arenas across the country. But it

590
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Speaker 2: didn't didn't take long for him to feel that the

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Speaker 2: campaign had no real interest in interest in converting young

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Speaker 2: black progressives into a powerful voting block that could have

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Speaker 2: made Sander's truly competitive against Clinton.

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Speaker 1: He had been a lot closer.

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Speaker 2: Glover said he was never given a staff to help

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Speaker 2: him match the crowds of white twenty somethings. It was

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Speaker 2: viewed as something that we just had to do, Glover

598
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Speaker 2: said over the phone. We threw some resources to it

599
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Speaker 2: to say we did it, but they didn't put as

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Speaker 2: many people behind it as they should have. Glover said

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Speaker 2: that stops that stops were cut from Sander's tour of

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Speaker 2: HBCUs after the South Carolina primary, so they didn't even

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Speaker 2: go to all the visits they were supposed to. In

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Speaker 2: late February, he said he was told by suppears that

605
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Speaker 2: there wasn't enough money to continue them. Sanders campaign raised

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Speaker 2: forty four million dollars in March, which is the best

607
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Speaker 2: performance to date. Yeah, he didn't want to spend it,

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Speaker 2: Glover said. The campaign money for the HBCU tour always

609
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Speaker 2: came at the last minute, leaving him scrambling to pay vendors,

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Speaker 2: which is a huge pet peeve of mine. Like, so

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Speaker 2: the black people got to wait on their money, right.

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Speaker 2: Some black members of Sander's staff whom I met covering

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Speaker 2: the campaign, told me they felt that the white boys,

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Speaker 2: as they put it, including Weaver, did not appreciate how

615
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 2: much Sanders needed the black vote to win the nomination. Yeah,

616
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Speaker 2: pure arrogance. It's the same shit with Hillary and oh wait,

617
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 2: it's the same shit, just pure arrogance, like we don't

618
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 2: need those votes, bitch, our votes count as much as

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Speaker 2: everybody else. Come this ain't three fifths. Dog, this a

620
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Speaker 2: whole last vote, Come get it. Visit the Morehouse College

621
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Speaker 2: in Atlanta and February illustrate the campaign's tendency to fumble

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Speaker 2: when it did try to reach black voters. The problem

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Speaker 2: was not limited to white members of the campaign staff.

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Speaker 2: Kathy Tyler, executive director for Strategic Communications at Morehouse College,

625
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Speaker 2: told me that a black representative of the Sanders campaign

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Speaker 2: was rude to her staff during the final hours of

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Speaker 2: the rally that took place on campus. Tyler said the

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Speaker 2: staffers behavior was so bad that she called campaign headquarters

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Speaker 2: in Burlington to complain. I've done rallies with Vice President

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden a few months before, so I know how

631
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Speaker 2: to work with secret service. I know how to work

632
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Speaker 2: with advanced teams. Bernie's team they were new to the game.

633
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Speaker 2: I guess A series of last minute changes to the

634
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Speaker 2: program she and Glover had worked on for more than

635
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Speaker 2: two months called some chaos. Tyler said she wanted HBCU

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Speaker 2: students to get ticketed first to enter the event. The

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00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 2: campaign refused. She said, in the audience at the rally

638
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 2: was mostly white, right, so you go to an HBCU

639
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Speaker 2: to talk to black people, Let's make sure we get

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Speaker 2: on mostly white audience here, because on one of them

641
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 2: black kids getting in first. It wasn't like you were

642
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Speaker 2: at the HBCU, Taler said, or the mostly white audience

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Speaker 2: at the rally. Once you got in that room, it

644
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 2: could have been any place. They also missed the opportunity

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Speaker 2: to work with black owned businesses that was set to

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Speaker 2: do the staging for the rally. At the campaign's last

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Speaker 2: minute requests, they got switched out. This is an opportunity

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Speaker 2: at one of the most prestigious African American colleges and

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Speaker 2: universities in the country to really build a relationship with

650
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,760
Speaker 2: their black business community. Who knows what kind of stories

651
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 2: of Bernie they could have gone out and told we

652
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 2: chopped it off before it had a chance to materialize.

653
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 2: We left a bad taste in their mouths. Right One

654
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 2: staffers who spoke on the conditioning anonymity, told me that

655
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,399
Speaker 2: the Outreach's team efforts to make inroads with black media

656
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 2: were consistently blocked by the campaign, which included denying requests

657
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 2: for interviews and access to the campaign. That's like I said,

658
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 2: shout out to Elon James Wright, who tried to book

659
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 2: that interview more than once and kept getting shot down,

660
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 2: and not to mention, senators completely ducked him one time

661
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 2: for an interview that he had scheduled. The stafford said

662
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:38,280
Speaker 2: the campaign feared that engaging black media might expose Sanders

663
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 2: weakness in articulating how his economics heavyly platform would benefit

664
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Speaker 2: black voters. The stafford said that the campaign even tried

665
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 2: to block me from covering a visit by Sanders to

666
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 2: Atlanta for Fusion because I had reported critically on the

667
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 2: center in the past, so my own Sanders, the campaign's

668
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 2: former national press secretary, who is black, categorically denied that

669
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,240
Speaker 2: allegation during a phone interview, and she defended the campaign's

670
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 2: commitment to reaching out the black voters. I stand behind

671
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 2: the work that the campaign did. I'm proud of it. Again.

672
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 2: There's always room for improvement. There's always things that people

673
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 2: look back and said we could have done better. People

674
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 2: that weren't on the inside looking on the outside. Everyone

675
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 2: could always point fingers, she went on. But as a

676
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 2: person who was there on the ground, I could tell

677
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 2: you that the campaign had a staunch commitment to reaching

678
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 2: out the communities of colors. That same former stafford told

679
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 2: me that Sanders campaign had no real interest in engaging

680
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 2: black voters or reporters who wanted to engage the campaign

681
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,479
Speaker 2: on issues important to them, such as challenging the union

682
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 2: protections that police have when they are accused of killing

683
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 2: black people. It was always a dogging pony show when

684
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 2: it came to black outreach. The former stafford said, so

685
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 2: mm hmm, yep. It was just uh and it goes

686
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 2: on and off for a while. At one point they

687
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 2: mentioned me no, I got, oh yeah. The own says,

688
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 2: let's see what second is this? What makes accounts of

689
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 2: the former Sands staff I was particularly troubling is that

690
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 2: the Senator, according to his liberal mostly white supporters, were

691
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 2: supposed to be the ideal candidate for black people. For one,

692
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 2: his supporters argue that black people should want no part

693
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 2: of Clinton. For her biggest supporter, her husband's disasters nineteen

694
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 2: ninety four crime bill, which Sander's voted for. By the way,

695
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 2: in the nineteen ninety six welfare reform. Sander's supporters also

696
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 2: remind us of her assertion that super predators are roman

697
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 2: the streets in the nineties, comments for which she has

698
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 2: only expressed some regret. This year, the Senator, on the

699
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 2: other hand, attended to march on Washington, and if you

700
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 2: want visual proof, senator supporters often tweeted the image to

701
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,760
Speaker 2: him being arrested at the University of Chicago in nineteen

702
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 2: sixty three. When black female activists led a disruption at

703
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 2: the Netree's Nation Progressive political conference last year, some white

704
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 2: people tweeted in defenses of Sander's paternalistically claiming black people

705
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 2: simply didn't know enough about his civil rights record. The

706
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,240
Speaker 2: online arrogance became so pronounced that it motivated Roder Borrow

707
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 2: what you who runs a comedy podcast a black guy

708
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 2: who tells I turn up to start the popular hashtag

709
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 2: Bernie so black, which mark Sanders supporters the film's the

710
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 2: Senate of the civil rights record. Tiya, also one of

711
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 2: net Roos Nations activists, told me that she believed Sanders

712
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 2: responded effectively to the demands that he speak more on

713
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 2: racial injustice, but for example, Sanders published a comprehensive criminal

714
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 2: Justice Reform page on this campaign site, and he did

715
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 2: a better job of discussing the intersection of racism and

716
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 2: economic justice. The problem for also was that Sanders failed

717
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 2: to articulate what the political revolution he so often talked

718
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 2: about with me for black people. I don't think what

719
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 2: Bernie stands for is out of line with what a

720
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 2: lot of the black community and black progressive movements prioritized.

721
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 2: She said. It's just that when it comes from that

722
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 2: dominant white male perspective on what's really important and over

723
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 2: emphasis on class struggle, absent racist racial analysis. Even if

724
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 2: we're talking about class struggle, why is his position on

725
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:49,879
Speaker 2: reparations that unrealistic? I mean, that is unrealistic. So yep, man,

726
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 2: just I try to tell y'all, but hey, he rether

727
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 2: it accustoming out cool.

728
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I said, you cool, I'm irrational and in

729
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: logical will continue to be mm hmm.

730
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 2: What's funny is just twenty two percent of voters, according

731
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 2: to this poll, agree with Obama that Hilly is the

732
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,320
Speaker 2: most qualified white house hold forever, and they say Trump

733
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 2: is just as qualified as she is. But it ain't

734
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 2: no sexism, y'all. It's just completely this is just completely

735
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 2: about her qualifications. Many people feel that a failed businessman

736
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 2: who's been bankrupt many times. Uh, it's just as qualified

737
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 2: as a person that has been well basically a person whatever, Johnna,

738
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Speaker 2: Yes it is, Yeah, basically, I mean, hey, you.

739
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 1: Know what you gonna do all over the place. She

740
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 1: proud of the age, but she probably gone through minnypol

741
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: So what are we talking about here?

742
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 2: I mean, it's you know, all them over recent shit. Yeah. Apparently,

743
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 2: With about a quarter of voters saying they agree with

744
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 2: Obama's statement about Clinton topping the charts presidential experience, another

745
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,439
Speaker 2: sixty five percent disagreed with his comment outright, the poll

746
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 2: show the thirteen percent of voters were undecided on this

747
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 2: initial question. Breaking it down by party, just five percent

748
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 2: of Republicans agreed with Obama's statement. Well, that's part for

749
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 2: the course. When posters asked a question to voters, Obama

750
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 2: wasn't identified as making a remark. Another fifteen percent of

751
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 2: voters not affiliated with either party agreed. Democrats agreed more

752
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 2: with the president, but not the majority. Just so like

753
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 2: even the majority of Democrats do not agree that Hillary

754
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 2: Clinton's the one of the most the most qualified presidential

755
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 2: Canadate ever cool, So then you know, because she was

756
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 2: first lady, she was a senator from New York, she's

757
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 2: a secretary of State, you know. But that apparently that's

758
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 2: the same to Let's see forty of voters who said

759
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 2: that Trump was better qualified to be president of the

760
00:41:55,640 --> 00:42:03,439
Speaker 2: United States in them balls mm hmm, yep, yep, twenty seven.

761
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 2: But uh yeah, anyway, it's just most of these motherfuckers

762
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 2: think that, you know, it's about the same. Well, you know, what,

763
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 2: what what's the problem. Some people even think he was

764
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 2: that Trump is more qualified, But it's not anything to

765
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 2: do with gender or sexism or anything. Guys, nothing to

766
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 2: see here, Move on, Okay, you're making it up. You're

767
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 2: nothing to see got it? Thank you? This is some sad,

768
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:40,399
Speaker 2: sad news right here. Memphis Bleak, who you guys may

769
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 2: know from such smash hits as songs that jay Z

770
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 2: put him.

771
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: On constantly talk about him.

772
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 2: You may know him from being in the lyrics to

773
00:42:53,560 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 2: Deal Summer what jay Z shot him out? Oh so wow,

774
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 2: why is the top track on title for members Bleak

775
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 2: this summer? That's so sad. I don't even think he

776
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:15,959
Speaker 2: wraps on that anyway. Apparently men Bleak just declared bankruptcy

777
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 2: and says he only has one hundred dollars in cash.

778
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 2: That's not good, even though jay Z said, as long

779
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 2: as I'm alive, you're a millionaire. Somebody was lying. Okay.

780
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 2: Uh he apparently.

781
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 1: He has a your person with the Captain.

782
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 2: He hasn't released the album in over a decade, but

783
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 2: uh yeah, he still he says he don't have it.

784
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 2: He filed the petition March fourteenth in US Federal Court

785
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 2: of New Jersey. His total assets, which included a Jersey home,

786
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 2: a Chevy and Powler, clothing, and wedding rings, total two

787
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy four thousand dollars. However, his liability is

788
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 2: total three hundred and fifty five dollars. He also claims

789
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 2: he only has one hundred dollars in cash at his

790
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 2: chased business account and that is empty and his business

791
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 2: Get Low Touring is worth nothing.

792
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 1: Oh should not get Low Touring?

793
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 2: Right? What kind of tours is get Low? Taking you

794
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 2: on that sound like you're gonna get shot at, Get

795
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 2: some diseases. Get low, Pow pow pow, Get low and high.

796
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,879
Speaker 2: Get un If you look to the right, you'll see

797
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:27,359
Speaker 2: where Troy have was shooting. Oh there he is. They right,

798
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 2: getting low.

799
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 1: Let's go the old tour.

800
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 2: He's back, y'all. He's If you look to the right,

801
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 2: you'll see the avenue where Tupac was shot coming out

802
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 2: the studio. Oh get low, Get low productions touring and

803
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 2: make sure you guys turn to the right and duck down.

804
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 2: Bleekropoli earned six thousand dollars a month, five hundred and

805
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 2: seventy one dollars in royalties, and five thousand, three hundred

806
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 2: and forty dollars ninety four cent from his business. However,

807
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 2: his monthly expenses amount to five thousand, three hundred and

808
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 2: seventy seven, leaving him with five hundred and thirty four night,

809
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 2: thirty four dollars and ninety four cents after bills. The

810
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 2: bankruptcy is paying in while Bleak formulates a plan to

811
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 2: pay back his creditors. He currently owes three hundred and

812
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 2: thirty five thousand on his home, twenty four thousand on

813
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 2: Chevy and Pola, nine thousands to do Arres, thirteen thousand

814
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 2: to Monmouth County Superior Court. You know this is good

815
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 2: news for somebody. Mona what you know, Mona, Mona like, Hey,

816
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 2: he gonna be on the new season, Bleak, we talking

817
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,879
Speaker 2: about revamping loving him Hoop New York, and you're gonna

818
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,720
Speaker 2: be too proud to come get this money. You willing

819
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 2: to have your wife faker abortion.

820
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 1: Next season.

821
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,439
Speaker 2: You're willing to do some domestic bonds to be on TV.

822
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 2: What youre trying to do? We love to get a

823
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 2: storyline about a rectile dysfunction in him. If you are

824
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 2: willing to bleep, you don't even have to take off

825
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 2: your hair ashpat poofs Okay, you never take that hat out.

826
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 2: Nobody got to know what's under your head. Bleak. Uh,

827
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,760
Speaker 2: it's doubt for that. Bleak will be bailed out by Jays.

828
00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 2: He doesn't list any support from friends and family in

829
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 2: his TIS, but hopefully he solves his financial issues, just

830
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 2: as he did in two thousand and seven when he

831
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 2: was poorly hit with a federal taxling the thirty seven,

832
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 2: seven hundred and fifty dollars. Well, good luck, Bleak. You know,

833
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 2: hopefully it's all right. M I hope his wife don't

834
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:23,800
Speaker 2: leave him. People gonna be walking the street like is

835
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 2: that your chick?

836
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:26,439
Speaker 1: Oh shit, m hm.

837
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,879
Speaker 2: Uh, you don't have enough hits to keep making these jokes.

838
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 2: Sorry y'all.

839
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: That y'all would know. What does did you make that

840
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:40,320
Speaker 1: up rod.

841
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 2: Like a baby? He won't just be out trying to

842
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:45,919
Speaker 2: get high.

843
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 3: No, m h.

844
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:54,439
Speaker 2: What happened to Rock Life, Familia the Dynasty? You're gonna

845
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 2: be selling the chinasty to try to get some of

846
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 2: this money back. I'm sorry, I know what, y'all. I'm

847
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 2: thinking why you want to hate feature Nor Yega? I

848
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 2: don't know, y'all. I can't help it. This is what

849
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 2: we do around here, all right. Let me stop for

850
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:14,800
Speaker 2: I get murder murdered. It's like five people that know

851
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 2: them songs. That's my ship, Ryn oh man, it's like

852
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 2: five niggas from New York that still smoke Black and

853
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 2: Miles or what teams that got them jokes? Uh, shout

854
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 2: out to you, shout out out all my people that

855
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 2: play basketball in teams and jeans. Okay, who puts on

856
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 2: for you? If not Rye? Okay, you were your fitted

857
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 2: to the office on Wednesday in pride. Okay, well pride

858
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 2: which old Yankee had on. Okay, you welcome, brothers and sisters.

859
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:44,839
Speaker 2: I don't know what kind of you know. It might

860
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:48,959
Speaker 2: be some rod diggers in the audience. Speaking of women

861
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 2: that's gone to jail, Martha Stewart blast lazy millennials, saying

862
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 2: most still live with their parents and don't have enough

863
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 2: initiative to work hard. Mm hmm, bitch, if you.

864
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:08,800
Speaker 1: Don't go somewhere and make some eggs and call it

865
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 1: a fucking day, what you talking about?

866
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 2: Make some eggs?

867
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 1: Get out of here, the woman that went to jail,

868
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 1: Get out of here.

869
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 2: Yeah.

870
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 1: She said that you forget that you've been locked up, right,

871
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: and she was black people would bring that shit up. Bitch,

872
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,240
Speaker 1: you've been locked up. What are you talking about.

873
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 2: She made a fortune from selling recipes, pots and books

874
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 2: and said that most millennials still live with their parents.

875
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 2: She urged them to have that they have to work

876
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 2: for it. It was with Luxury Listings NYC she did

877
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 2: this interview. Said, I think every business is trying to

878
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 2: target millennials, But who are millennials?

879
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 3: Now?

880
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 2: We are finding out they are living with their parents.

881
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,399
Speaker 2: They don't have the initiative to go out and find

882
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 2: a little apartment and grow a tomato plan on the terrace.

883
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 2: She added, I understand the plight of younger people to

884
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 2: eating circumstances out there are very grind.

885
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 1: You know, you don't, because if you do, you wouldn't

886
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: make that statement.

887
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 2: But you have to work for, you have to strive for,

888
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 2: you have to go after it.

889
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:11,879
Speaker 1: No, you don't, because the thing is for millenniums. It's

890
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: not even like it was the men and Roger went

891
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: to college. You have people getting out and with loans

892
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 1: and they get a job that they can't even fucking

893
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 1: afford to pay the loans back. More people are having

894
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: children later in life. They're not getting married. They're getting

895
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: married later in life. They're staying at home late in life.

896
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 1: Because if you're goddamn one hundred thousand dollars in debt,

897
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 1: but you don't got a hundred thousand dollars fucking house

898
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: that you're living in, you yeah, you're gonna go home

899
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: with your mama. Yeah you are. You're gonna stay home

900
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:41,479
Speaker 1: with your mama.

901
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 2: Yes, she on that orange is a new black shit, I.

902
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: Guess right, and a lot of the you know what

903
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 1: I think Also, she realized themselves gone down because you

904
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 1: know what, them people would be out trying to buy

905
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,959
Speaker 1: her expensive ass shit, but they're not no more because

906
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: they can't afford it.

907
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 2: And she blaming the fact that they are lazy, right,

908
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 2: they can't afford the Martha Stewart mixed up? Does she

909
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 2: still have a TV show? Is she still on? Is

910
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 2: that a thing when she on TV? Wasn't she on TV?

911
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:07,399
Speaker 2: Or someone?

912
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 1: Mm hmm like that?

913
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 2: Is that still a thing that she does selling stuff

914
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 2: on TV?

915
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 1: Right? And when people say stuff like that, it just

916
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:18,359
Speaker 1: shows you ignorance, man, your ignorance, because it is real

917
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 1: out there. You you twenty three, twenty four years old,

918
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 1: and you five hundred six hundred thousand dollars in debt.

919
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 2: That ain't no joke. Well, uh, She's like, I understand,

920
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 2: you know, times is hard, but y'all, you know, when

921
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 2: I was a kid at nineteen, I released my first

922
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 2: cookery book, and then I got married at nineteen and

923
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:45,800
Speaker 2: immediately got an apartment and fixed it up and it

924
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 2: made me enormously proud. And then I bought penn about

925
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 2: furniture at auctions for pennies.

926
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: She said, yeah, nineteen. Do a lot of these students

927
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 1: actually go to school and get education, so they're not

928
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 1: getting married a nineteen. They don't want a penny pinch.

929
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 1: They trying to do better. And I'm glad for her success.

930
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: But you know what, everybody don't want ain't gonna have

931
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:14,359
Speaker 1: the susst that you have at what you did.

932
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 2: She now has a business worth more than three hundred

933
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 2: million dollars. She's worked as a stockbroker, Chanelle model, and

934
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 2: the caterer before. She had also just been dubbed the

935
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 2: Queen of Facebook Live, the social media brands live video service,

936
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 2: and she occasionally gets more viewers on some of her

937
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 2: cookery videos than her Hallmark program, The Martha Stewart Show.

938
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 2: Oh so, I guess she does still have a show.

939
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,839
Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know which that was in twenty ten,

940
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 2: so maybe it's not out. I don't know. The home

941
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 2: goods mogu and cookbook author from New Jersey was excited

942
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:47,959
Speaker 2: to talk to The Mail Online recently about a fast

943
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 2: growing meal kit business Martha and Marley Spoon.

944
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: So you get a yeah, it's similar to the blue apron.

945
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 2: I've seen it. Well, there you go, man, get off

946
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 2: your lazy asses, millennial, your weak hands, shake, motherfuckers. Martha's

947
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 2: still gonna shank you. You don't get right trying to

948
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 2: tell you.

949
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 1: She in jail. Oh she knows how you sa that

950
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: good old parent knife.

951
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 2: Yep. That's what it is. Horror, oh scary as a

952
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 2: Spanish bullfighter was God in front of everybody in the

953
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:33,800
Speaker 2: arena and on TV live in the eighty seventh, eighty seventh,

954
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 2: eighty seventh? What is eighty seventh eighty seventh? Why are

955
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 2: y'all st next to eighty seventh?

956
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 1: That is not somebody made the air when the letters

957
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:42,240
Speaker 1: went small.

958
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that doesn't even make sense the eighty seventh, eighty seventh. Anyway. Yeah,

959
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 2: he got killed by the bull. First one that died

960
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 2: thirty years Yeah.

961
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 1: That so that means it was a possility that you

962
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:55,839
Speaker 1: was gonna die.

963
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Yeah, but you know it's been a while.

964
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 2: I mean, it's gotta suck to be that guy. I

965
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 2: mean he's dead now, but you know, gotta suck to

966
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 2: be the guy who broke the streak. You know. They

967
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 2: gotta switch that back to zero on the little billboard.

968
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:10,959
Speaker 2: Days killed, days with out of killing.

969
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 1: Uh.

970
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. Apparently he died twenty nine going to death in

971
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:23,240
Speaker 2: the ring he was paying to the ground in Eastern Spain.

972
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,280
Speaker 2: His wife, Rachael says was in the crowd and devastated

973
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 2: by the tragedy. She gonna end up on snapped watch,

974
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 2: she drugged him and made him slower that morning, she

975
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 2: gets some steroids to the bull, right, But what she

976
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 2: they didn't know is that she had been having sex

977
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 2: with the bull. Yeah, I'm coming up on snapped. We

978
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 2: always told him not to trust her, and new evidence

979
00:53:55,960 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 2: with the bull turns everything on his head. Is this

980
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 2: bull seeming?

981
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 3: It is.

982
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 2: Coming up next on oxygen?

983
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 1: Uh uh.

984
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 2: He was rushed to the hospital, where doctors could do

985
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,840
Speaker 2: nothing to save him. The crowd was devastated by the

986
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 2: travisty apparently, But I mean, isn't it like Nascar? Y'all

987
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:20,839
Speaker 2: came to see a wreck, right?

988
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 1: You devastated? But it's a motherfucking bull.

989
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 2: It is a bull.

990
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 1: What about that? It is a bull that charges that

991
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,800
Speaker 1: you full force with some pointed ass ship on the

992
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 1: top of his head. He might get you. So that's

993
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 1: one for the bull Bulls won, Yeah, fighting over half

994
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 1: his brothers and sisters.

995
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 2: This is the first time the bulls won since Michael

996
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 2: Jordan the bulls.

997
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 1: And I don't know much about bullfighting, but I've seen

998
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 1: something got that neither now.

999
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 2: But don't they like sticking with ship too with swords

1000
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 2: and kill them? Yeah? You know who else. Don't know

1001
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 2: much about bulls fighting bulls. I don't know what's a contest.

1002
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:04,359
Speaker 2: They just they just like we kill things that fuck

1003
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 2: with us. So, uh, I guess I win.

1004
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was ain't not today she's like, oh, y'all

1005
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 1: stick and niggas take this stampedap.

1006
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:19,839
Speaker 2: Yep. The bull's name Lorenzo. So it's a black bull. Ah,

1007
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 2: there's definitely a black bulls that got him. Uh so

1008
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 2: the rancher, uh says, oh yeah, So Lorenzo's lineage set.

1009
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 2: It was set to end as the rancher sins mother

1010
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 2: to the Loughter house, as tradition dictates. So there'll be

1011
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 2: no more Lorenzo babies. I guess I don't know, or

1012
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 2: his mother won't produce anymore Lorenzo's brothers. Spanish Prime Minister

1013
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:52,800
Speaker 2: Mariano Rajoy led the tribute to the bullfighter shocking photos.

1014
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 2: I can't believe it still goes on. This is so

1015
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 2: barbaric in our cake. But hey, you know what, Hey,

1016
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 2: maybe football is too. What the fuck do I know?

1017
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 2: Shocking photo. I'll show another matter of being Gordon Pam Pamplona.

1018
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:06,359
Speaker 2: So the ship the best bull's been getting real close

1019
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 2: for a while and nearby in a small village another

1020
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,240
Speaker 2: man was gord to death. So bull out here winning.

1021
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:14,840
Speaker 1: Don't they have to run into the bulls before? This

1022
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 1: is where people just running in the street and the

1023
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:18,359
Speaker 1: bulls is running be fucking people up.

1024
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 2: This bulls part of you know, part of revolution.

1025
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 4: Dog.

1026
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 2: They don't believe that ship bulls lives matter, appearing that

1027
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 2: they do. Yep. Well, anyway, enough of this bullshit.

1028
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 1: Ah, I'm just saying, I guess I guess he got

1029
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:39,879
Speaker 1: the point.

1030
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:45,320
Speaker 2: I think you think the bulls uh, I think the

1031
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 2: bull was bored. I mean, wait, you think the bull

1032
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 2: was horny mm hmm. Well, anyway, it seems like you

1033
00:56:54,120 --> 00:57:01,879
Speaker 2: showed the spear Rick m Hey. Who did the bull

1034
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 2: vote for in two thousand and four? Who our gore?

1035
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 3: Oh?

1036
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 2: Yes, of course he did. Why wouldn't he think about it?

1037
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 6: Y'all?

1038
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 2: All right, don't get all in a huff. Okay, gosh, man,

1039
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 2: that's sad though, that uh, because I think they think

1040
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 2: they killed a bull too when they when this happens,

1041
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 2: killed the.

1042
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 1: Bull, so you know they were gonna kill a bull anyway.

1043
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, he uh they said he the bull

1044
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 2: guard him in the right chest. Which gave him cardiac

1045
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 2: arrest before he even made it to the hospital. Uh,

1046
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 2: he got a media resuscitation and intubated. He was giving

1047
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 2: emergency tracking out of you to allow him to breathe,

1048
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 2: but it was too late because it also had went

1049
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 2: through his long and seven the order and it's chests

1050
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 2: carrying blood around his body. Cut his cut on his veins.

1051
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 2: There was also damaged around his heart.

1052
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 1: Uh.

1053
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 2: But yeah, the bull had been struggling, so he must

1054
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 2: have been sucking it up for a while, but it

1055
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 2: caught him off guard after Gusta Wynn affected his waving

1056
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 2: of the crutch that yeah, they're gonna make a movie

1057
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 2: about this dude, so mm hmmm. It was shown live

1058
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 2: on TV and viewers have uploaded the footage of the

1059
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 2: scene on social media. Damn you die, Now you're going viral.

1060
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:37,479
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.

1061
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 2: So there you go, man. That's uh, this horrific tragedy

1062
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 2: led to the Bulls getting the w man. Yeah, now

1063
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 2: they're probably gonna trade him to the Knicks, because that's

1064
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 2: what all the Bulls the Knicks they've been doing all

1065
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 2: off season. Uh, let's see what else happened. Cocaine Bus

1066
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 2: Fox Business Produce was a Katie welf and wait wellen

1067
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 2: Hoffer was fired for a security breach following a drug arrest.

1068
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 2: Fox Man Fox does not really have the highest moral standard.

1069
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 1: Streeting women bad and got cocaine. What's happening here?

1070
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 2: Huh? She was terminated by the network on Friday after

1071
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 2: it was revealed that she was one of eighteen white

1072
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 2: collar New Yorkers who are allegedly part of a drug

1073
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 2: ring in Manhattan.

1074
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 1: Uh.

1075
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 2: She was terminated for a security breach. They say they

1076
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 2: didn't elaborate on the details. Her attorney, of course, said

1077
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 2: she's innocent. She was thirty years old. She's thirty years old,

1078
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 2: and she was fired. Came to day after Chipotle's chief

1079
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 2: marketing officer, Mark Crump Cracker Crump Crump Cracker, that's such

1080
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 2: a rich white man's name, appeared in court to face

1081
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 2: charges of in relation to the same thing. He was indicted. Yeah,

1082
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 2: that's why, now we know why Chipotle is so good,

1083
00:59:55,640 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 2: y'all bringing me and cracking side that Chipotle. He was

1084
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 2: indicted on seven counts of possessing an a legal sustance

1085
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 2: after he was allegedly caught ordering drugs thirteen times on

1086
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 2: a wire tap that snared the rest of the group

1087
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 2: shit thirteen times before she was taken into custody. She

1088
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 2: mingled with colleagues at a Building Homes for Heroes event

1089
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 2: to honor Fox News host Sean Hannity. She was pictured

1090
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 2: at the table with Greg Kelly, the host of Fox's

1091
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 2: Good Day in New York and son of four NYPD

1092
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:37,439
Speaker 2: Police Commissioner Ray Kelly. Man. That's just how the mighty

1093
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 2: fall down. I wonder, I wonder what happened when? When

1094
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 2: the uh? Because I actually have the footage of when

1095
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 2: she got called out at Fox and got fired if

1096
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 2: I could play it.

1097
01:00:58,080 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 1: What are you doing?

1098
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 2: Let me tell you something. The trouble with being a

1099
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 2: teenager is you don't know nothing. The problem with teenagers

1100
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 2: is you think you're smarter than people who've already been

1101
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 2: down the road you're traveling. You know what I'm trying

1102
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 2: to say to you? Boy?

1103
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 3: Do you yes?

1104
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 1: Sir?

1105
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 2: Did you tell your father I threw you out of school?

1106
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 2: Look at me?

1107
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 1: Damn it? No, sir? Why not?

1108
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 7: No?

1109
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 2: Guts pray to what he's gonna pay for you hunt?

1110
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 2: My father doesn't live with us anymore, sir?

1111
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 3: Oh?

1112
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 1: Is that what you're doing? Now?

1113
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 2: Go around feeling sorry for yourself. Boy, huh, go on,

1114
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 2: get out of here. You're wasting my time.

1115
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 1: Please let me back to I have to get back

1116
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 1: in school. I can't go home and tell my mom.

1117
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 2: I got to get that out of school now, watch it.

1118
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 7: I let you back into my school, Samson, cause I'm

1119
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 7: gonna do better, sirt, I doing my work.

1120
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 2: What else? It's standing out of trouble? What have you

1121
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 2: been thinking about all this time? Why should I believe

1122
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 2: you now? Because I changed my ways? I don't believe

1123
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:16,960
Speaker 2: your SAMs. I don't think you've changed the thing. Don't

1124
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 2: on dump?

1125
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 1: No, I don't want to jump, Yes you do.

1126
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:23,919
Speaker 2: Just smoke crack. Don't you just smoke crack?

1127
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 1: Don't you.

1128
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 2: Look at me? Boy? Don't just smoke crack? Yeah, yes, sir.

1129
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 2: That's how she got fired, y'all because she smoked crack.

1130
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 2: She couldn't even lie about it no more. It's bad

1131
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 2: when Fox fire you. I thought smoking crack was how

1132
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 2: you get on the air there, But apparently I was wrong.

1133
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 2: I think he was wrong. Uh, just smoke crack, don't you.

1134
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 1: Oh?

1135
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 2: Let's see, was it anythail I'm talking about? Before you

1136
01:02:55,480 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 2: can get into our games? Oh? Yeah, and white people

1137
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 2: news Kenny Chesney before and in Pittsburgh, which led to

1138
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 2: seven arrests and thirty seven hospitalizations at more than forty

1139
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 2: eight tons of garbage left behind.

1140
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 1: Nobody's saying thugs.

1141
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 2: I mean it must be the music, right, I mean

1142
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 2: they can't handle We know that white folks can't handle

1143
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:22,520
Speaker 2: this thug music.

1144
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1145
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 2: Seven were arrested on charges of trespassing, ticket robbery, and assault.

1146
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 2: The EMS attended the ninety nine people in thirty seven

1147
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 2: had to be taken to the hospital. People got most

1148
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 2: of our dehydration in toox case and no ones in

1149
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 2: serious condition. Tailgate parties started at one pm. The city

1150
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 2: cleaned up forty eight tons of trash.

1151
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 1: Goddamn.

1152
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 2: In twenty thirteen, he had another concert in Pittsburgh that

1153
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 2: led to seventy three arrests and thirty tons of trash.

1154
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 1: So but they still keep allowing him to go to

1155
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 1: these cities.

1156
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 2: This is his thing, you know, everywhere he goes, thuggery

1157
01:03:59,320 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 2: keeps happening.

1158
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 1: You cost the city of tons of money.

1159
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 2: He's the white Troy ab basically the the Migos, but

1160
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 2: with a guitar, and apparently it doesn't have.

1161
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 1: Any Oh my God, look at that trash.

1162
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, y'all, guys want to see the trash. You don't

1163
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 2: see the trash in the chat room. Let me show y'all.

1164
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 2: Would have looked like this is this is this is abysmal, y'all,

1165
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 2: Like this is okay America. Could you imagine if this

1166
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 2: happened at the jay Z concert?

1167
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 1: Look at that trash.

1168
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 2: Could you imagine if could you imagine if the Migos

1169
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 2: came to town and he saw this, they would mm hmm.

1170
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 2: You think think it'll be all good, y'all. You think

1171
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 2: that'd be cool with this behavior. You know, they want

1172
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 2: to the police don't want to protect Beyonce because she

1173
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 2: said black lives matter, But this this is okay. Huh uh.

1174
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 2: So yeah, they get drunk and go out there and

1175
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 2: have a good old time with the good old boys.

1176
01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:57,920
Speaker 2: Here's some of their fans.

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01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:02,959
Speaker 8: Concert goers were treated by ems. Thirty seven were taken

1178
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 8: to the hospital, the vast majority for over intoxication and dehydration.

1179
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 8: As far as the rests, there were seven for alcohol

1180
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 8: fuel defenses, which the police chief says is a small

1181
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 8: number considering the size of the crowd.

1182
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 6: Really really please, very proud of the way the officers

1183
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:25,480
Speaker 6: were able to maintain public order, just invite an incredible

1184
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 6: amount of alcohol being consumed by people, a lot of

1185
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 6: whom seemed to have a hard time control.

1186
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:34,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, they would not be talking like that about a

1187
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 2: nigga concert, y'all know it. Let's so, I'm going to

1188
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 2: start a new session real quick and invite you guys

1189
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 2: all over and get came back on screen. Oh time,

1190
01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 2: So we'll just say eighty eight. All right, it'll be

1191
01:05:57,160 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 2: a second, guys. Second half of this show is also

1192
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:04,919
Speaker 2: brought to you by Luke Crate. That's right, y'all.

1193
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:06,440
Speaker 6: Uh.

1194
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:12,480
Speaker 2: Luke Crate is a box of good greatness that comes

1195
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Speaker 2: every week of just all the nerd stuff and nerdery

1196
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 2: that you can get your pretty little nerd heartened hands on.

1197
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 2: Every month they have a different theme this year, this

1198
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Speaker 2: July theme is Futuristic.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be packed with all kinds of stuff as

1201
01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:34,640
Speaker 2: we alluded to earlier. It's gonna have like Rick and

1202
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 2: Morty stuff, Futurama, Star Trek, Mega Man, It's gonna have

1203
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 2: a model action figure and you also get a a

1204
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 2: T T shirt you get.

1205
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 1: Uh.

1206
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 2: It also comes with a pen. We always get so

1207
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 2: much of this stuff and we we love it all.

1208
01:06:56,240 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 2: You get comic books all the time. So people that

1209
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 2: are like, how do I get back into com books,

1210
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:05,160
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1211
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:09,760
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1212
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 2: we love you. You also can get three dollars off

1213
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 2: of that. So go to lucrate dot com slash TVGWT

1214
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 2: and a offer cold TBGWT and you get three dollars

1215
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:21,440
Speaker 2: off of any new subscription. So I say you get

1216
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 2: you some. Make sure you do it about the nineteenth

1217
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:26,080
Speaker 2: at nine pm Pacific time so that you can get

1218
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:28,240
Speaker 2: this month's create. All right, you're gonna want to do that.

1219
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 2: All right, let's get into let's get into some other segments. Okay,

1220
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:38,800
Speaker 2: I feel like, well, actually, no, no, no, but I

1221
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 2: do want to cover with more thing. So remember we

1222
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 2: were talking about that cop yesterday, like Tommy Norman or something.

1223
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:47,800
Speaker 2: I can't remember his name. Now, that's how much I

1224
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 2: don't want I want to hear any more about that

1225
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 2: dude being brought up in the middle of black people

1226
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:56,320
Speaker 2: talking about how shit is not just. But there's a

1227
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 2: veteran Dallas cop that broke ranks to slam the public

1228
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 2: face of togetherness and claim the black community mistrust police

1229
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:07,920
Speaker 2: because they are wrongly arrested to help fill arrest quotas.

1230
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 1: That's not the people been saying for a long time.

1231
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 2: That's right, y'all, just fucking with those black people. Just

1232
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:28,640
Speaker 2: fucking with those blacks. We're just fucking with fucking.

1233
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 1: With black people.

1234
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 2: That's right, guys, Time to play the game that we

1235
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:34,960
Speaker 2: all hate to play. Gonna talk about that sism, that

1236
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:38,559
Speaker 2: racism shout out to how far a starter we're gonna

1237
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 2: talk about that, that people being black when let's getting

1238
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:44,200
Speaker 2: fucked with the sign of points scores from seal to

1239
01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 2: one hundred intervals of twenty five of how much we

1240
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 2: feel fucked with as we read these stories from all

1241
01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 2: over the globe. So yeah, apparently, uh, he's his name

1242
01:08:56,040 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 2: is Officer Nick Novella Novello. He's sixty two. He's also

1243
01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 2: a black man, and he has spoken out because apparently

1244
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 2: behind the scenes there's like a whole bunch of stuff

1245
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 2: where people don't like the police Chief David Brown, and

1246
01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:15,560
Speaker 2: they've been trying to get him out of there for

1247
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:19,559
Speaker 2: years anyway, So kind of like with activism and shit,

1248
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 2: there's some infighting and this is just people going to

1249
01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:27,120
Speaker 2: the public with it. But he's a serving officer with

1250
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 2: thirty four years on the be in Dallas. He accuses

1251
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 2: police Chief David Brown a fell in the public by

1252
01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 2: being at the ham of a police team low on

1253
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:37,439
Speaker 2: morale and overwork with insufficient pay. He said the police

1254
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 2: chief was guilty of grandstanding in his public appeal to

1255
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 2: hire more young black men to his force, and he

1256
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:45,760
Speaker 2: claimed that because that the Dallas Police Department have been

1257
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:48,600
Speaker 2: plunged into an all time low, with many the disillusioned

1258
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 2: officers serving the public. Well, one part of this is

1259
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:55,120
Speaker 2: I think they said this, Oh no, this dude don't

1260
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:58,320
Speaker 2: look black to me. I don't know. The articles say

1261
01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:00,200
Speaker 2: he's black, but I don't know. I'll take it our

1262
01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 2: word for it. Was like a white dude. But one

1263
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:07,680
Speaker 2: of the things, though, is David Brown reached out to

1264
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:13,200
Speaker 2: black protesters saying he wanted them to join the police force.

1265
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 2: He said, we're hiring, will give you an application, will

1266
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:19,759
Speaker 2: help you resolve some of the problems you're protesting about,

1267
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:22,040
Speaker 2: will put you in your neighborhood. We will help you

1268
01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:26,519
Speaker 2: resolve some of the problems you're protesting about, which you

1269
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:31,839
Speaker 2: know so because I don't like how y'all are policing.

1270
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:33,640
Speaker 2: I gotta get a job doing it.

1271
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:33,880
Speaker 1: Now.

1272
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:37,599
Speaker 2: That's is that how that's gonna work. Job, y'all can't

1273
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:40,880
Speaker 2: do the job any better, you know what I mean?

1274
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 2: Like I now I have to become an officer. I

1275
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:47,800
Speaker 2: might have a job. I gotta quit my job become

1276
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:51,000
Speaker 2: police officer because you won't because it's so fucking impossible

1277
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:53,200
Speaker 2: for you to say we're not gonna kill no niggas today.

1278
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:57,519
Speaker 2: But Novella said large numbers of the black community in

1279
01:10:57,560 --> 01:10:59,679
Speaker 2: Dallas just trust the police and have been wrongly arrested.

1280
01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:02,160
Speaker 2: To help feeling, the rest quota laid down the officers,

1281
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:04,160
Speaker 2: he said, if he wants them to sign up, he

1282
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:06,639
Speaker 2: had better stop criminalizing them for things like having small

1283
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:07,599
Speaker 2: amounts of marijuana.

1284
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:10,400
Speaker 1: Right, you get that, you can't be hired.

1285
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:14,360
Speaker 2: Some officers fit people up by arresting them for being

1286
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:17,640
Speaker 2: intoxicated when they refuse to show their IDs, and they

1287
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 2: lead to a criminal record and difficulties in finding the job.

1288
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 2: Officers are under pressure to reach the targets that has

1289
01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:28,679
Speaker 2: to be into the arrest and ticket quota that exists

1290
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 2: within the Dallas Police Department. I'm sick and tired of

1291
01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:33,120
Speaker 2: the public facing together and as the chief puts on

1292
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 2: when he knows there's a lot of bad feelings behind

1293
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:39,040
Speaker 2: the scenes. Novello, who was on duty the morning after

1294
01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 2: Thursday after the murder's attacked by Michael Johnson on his colleagues,

1295
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:47,720
Speaker 2: said Police Chief Brown had to defy calls from four

1296
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:52,800
Speaker 2: police associations in Dallas to resign. Last spring, he was

1297
01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:55,200
Speaker 2: at the center of a stormer. Brown was at the

1298
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:57,680
Speaker 2: center of a storm of protest when he introduced a

1299
01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 2: wave of shift changes among the staff who were already

1300
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 2: resentful because of the long hour, short staff shortages, and

1301
01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:08,200
Speaker 2: low pay. The Black Police Association, the Greater Dallas, the

1302
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:11,080
Speaker 2: Dallas Police Association, the Dallas Paternal Order of Police, and

1303
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:14,960
Speaker 2: the Dallas Chapter of National Lautina Law Enforcement Organization called

1304
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:17,519
Speaker 2: for Brown to give up his job after a move

1305
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 2: to put one hundreds of officers on different shifts. Novello said,

1306
01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 2: I am not talking about the rank and foul officers

1307
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:27,519
Speaker 2: who do fantastic jobs knowing their lives are in continual

1308
01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:30,040
Speaker 2: danger that each time they go to work they may

1309
01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 2: not come home. I believe the public has a right

1310
01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 2: to know, a real right to know what is happening

1311
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 2: and not just received managed information. As how he would

1312
01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:39,639
Speaker 2: feel if he was fired from his eighty eight thousand

1313
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:42,000
Speaker 2: dollars a year job for speaking now, he said, I

1314
01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 2: believe I would. It would give me the platform to

1315
01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:47,840
Speaker 2: speak anything I speak about. I can prove everything I say.

1316
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:50,240
Speaker 2: A lot of black community are supportive of the police,

1317
01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 2: and that is wonderful. But a large number of say,

1318
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:56,559
Speaker 2: large numbers say police departments cannot police themselves. Not only

1319
01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 2: can't we police ourselves, sometimes we go out of our

1320
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:02,120
Speaker 2: way to protect the predator cop. In my estimation, the

1321
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:04,720
Speaker 2: quota system is corrupt. You are telling the officer who

1322
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:06,759
Speaker 2: has a great deal of power that he is required

1323
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 2: to exercise that and generate funds for the city, arrest,

1324
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:12,880
Speaker 2: generate money. As a beat cop, I see the computer,

1325
01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:15,479
Speaker 2: I see the calls holding, I see the inability to

1326
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 2: dispatch and deal with real time needs. We are vastly understaff.

1327
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 2: Last month we lost forty eight to fifty officers, which

1328
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 2: is unheard of. One officer left to go drive a

1329
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:27,840
Speaker 2: Coca Cola truck. Another who was forty three years old,

1330
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:31,439
Speaker 2: retired at the fourteen years saying I'm out. Morale is

1331
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 2: very low. He said several officers have resigned from the

1332
01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:38,680
Speaker 2: force at the last Thursday's murder. This number included a

1333
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:40,600
Speaker 2: friend married to an attorney who quit to seek a

1334
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:42,640
Speaker 2: new career out of the police service because he had

1335
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:45,639
Speaker 2: been so shaken by the atrocities. Novello, who is married

1336
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:48,720
Speaker 2: and is the grandfather who has had several legal run

1337
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:54,360
Speaker 2: ins after being accused of whistleblowing, but he said he

1338
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 2: was only driven by the need to expose the truth

1339
01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:59,160
Speaker 2: and serve the public, with his deeply religious beliefs spurring

1340
01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:03,479
Speaker 2: him on. He called for better legal assistance for Dallas officers,

1341
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:07,640
Speaker 2: who's who lift the lid off of corrupt officers, and

1342
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:10,680
Speaker 2: says low pay also his morale. He said he was

1343
01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:13,839
Speaker 2: underpaid by fifteen thousand dollars at least compared to various departments.

1344
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:17,679
Speaker 2: We are understaff and we don't have a transfer in policy.

1345
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:20,799
Speaker 2: If we can't man the streets, the only viable solution

1346
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 2: would be we embraced the assistance of the National Guard

1347
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:25,519
Speaker 2: or some federal agency to help US police the streets

1348
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:29,360
Speaker 2: of Dallas. It would be very unpalatable because it would

1349
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:33,280
Speaker 2: mean the loss of sovereign state city sovereignty, he claimed.

1350
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:35,400
Speaker 2: The public was being wrongly led to believe that a

1351
01:14:35,439 --> 01:14:37,960
Speaker 2: full police force service was being offered up in Dallas,

1352
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:40,720
Speaker 2: he said a police officer. As a police officer, I

1353
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:42,360
Speaker 2: can look you in the eye and say we have

1354
01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:44,600
Speaker 2: got your back. We are out there, patroller, But no

1355
01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:47,240
Speaker 2: we are not. I can recall a number of days

1356
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:49,439
Speaker 2: when I went to detail in the morning and there

1357
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:51,920
Speaker 2: might have been seven of us out there, and after

1358
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 2: they have put officers on special assignment, there were one

1359
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:57,600
Speaker 2: or two police officers for the whole district. There's a

1360
01:14:57,680 --> 01:14:59,559
Speaker 2: lot of anger out there that we have an inability

1361
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:02,519
Speaker 2: to police ourselves, and we will protect the roll cop.

1362
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:05,840
Speaker 2: As a police department, Chief Brown, however, says he's proud

1363
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:08,759
Speaker 2: that the homicides and other violent crimes have been reduced

1364
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:10,799
Speaker 2: over the recent years in Dallas, and released a YouTube

1365
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:13,240
Speaker 2: video asking for ideas from his officers to continue the

1366
01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:16,240
Speaker 2: great success the department had achieved over the past year.

1367
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:19,920
Speaker 2: He said community policing had helped the fuse tensions between

1368
01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:22,679
Speaker 2: police and minorities and that last year marked the twelfth

1369
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 2: consecutive year of crime reduction and the lowest murder rate

1370
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:28,960
Speaker 2: in Dallas is nineteen thirty. But his Maverick officer said

1371
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:31,599
Speaker 2: he is grandstanding. He knows it's all about public perception.

1372
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:33,479
Speaker 2: I don't want to besmirch the man, and I have

1373
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:35,760
Speaker 2: nothing personal against him. My harbor, no anger at him.

1374
01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:38,439
Speaker 2: He says he wants to hug officers when he sees them. Well,

1375
01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:40,680
Speaker 2: I would hug him back, I suppose, But I have

1376
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:44,320
Speaker 2: no confidence in the man at all. He is very dictate, dictatorial.

1377
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:47,880
Speaker 2: He is not open to questions. It is his show.

1378
01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:51,479
Speaker 2: The police chief has agreed that low starting salaries of

1379
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:53,840
Speaker 2: his officers are a problem. Salaries started forty four thy

1380
01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:57,200
Speaker 2: six hundred and fifty nine dollars but a police officer

1381
01:15:58,439 --> 01:16:00,360
Speaker 2: for a police officer, and go up to twenty six

1382
01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:03,840
Speaker 2: thousand for a lieutenant. The Dallas Police Department has more

1383
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:07,040
Speaker 2: than thirty five hundred sworn members and over five hundred

1384
01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:10,960
Speaker 2: non sworn members. It police is one point three million

1385
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:14,720
Speaker 2: people in the city of three hundred and eighty five

1386
01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:17,000
Speaker 2: square miles, and it's actively seeking new recruits on this

1387
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 2: official website. So yeah, man, to me, that's a hero.

1388
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:32,679
Speaker 2: Not do anything against hugging kids. Nothing against the character

1389
01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:38,519
Speaker 2: of Officer Tommy from yesterday, but this dude putting his

1390
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:43,640
Speaker 2: name in the paper and saying we don't adequately adequately

1391
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:47,879
Speaker 2: police have we over police the black community. We have quotas,

1392
01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:51,120
Speaker 2: and to fulfill those quotas, we go harassed black people essentially,

1393
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:55,600
Speaker 2: and we don't respond to emergencies and shit in a

1394
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 2: tommy fashion because we're out doing that kind of shit.

1395
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:03,320
Speaker 2: We're understaff, underpaid, and the guy who's going around talking

1396
01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 2: about protesters need to come work in the police force

1397
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:11,680
Speaker 2: is acting like it's not a genuine feeling to not

1398
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:17,080
Speaker 2: trust us. We're not trustworthy, Like we need to end

1399
01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:22,680
Speaker 2: being revenue generators and be police, because a revenue generator

1400
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:24,879
Speaker 2: is a different animal.

1401
01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:26,640
Speaker 3: You know.

1402
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:28,640
Speaker 2: When I know you're pulling me over because you got

1403
01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:30,280
Speaker 2: to make a quota and you're just trying to make

1404
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:36,439
Speaker 2: some money, it's a completely different for completely different discussion.

1405
01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:40,760
Speaker 2: So yeah, zero to one hundred can oh for him?

1406
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:41,160
Speaker 1: Zero?

1407
01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:45,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, zero for me too, Like real talk, man, I

1408
01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:47,600
Speaker 2: don't know, I don't care if it is like some

1409
01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 2: petty shit, but you put your name on the dog.

1410
01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:56,120
Speaker 2: That's a hero like that, that's a role model. He

1411
01:17:56,320 --> 01:17:58,120
Speaker 2: just told the truth. He's just like yo, man, I

1412
01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:02,200
Speaker 2: don't want to be lying. This shit is fucked up. Like,

1413
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 2: all right, here's another one. Speaking of police, some people

1414
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:14,240
Speaker 2: went on in Detroit, went on Facebook, praised the Dallas shooter,

1415
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:19,920
Speaker 2: said kill all police, and they urged people to murder

1416
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:23,679
Speaker 2: police officers. So they got arrested. Four men got arrested.

1417
01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:28,519
Speaker 2: Detroit police arrested at least four men on Facebook posts

1418
01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:30,320
Speaker 2: urging people to kill white cops. In the wake of

1419
01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:33,599
Speaker 2: the Dallas massacre. The law enforcement across the country has

1420
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:36,240
Speaker 2: been on high alert since Michael Johnson, twenty five, shot

1421
01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:38,559
Speaker 2: dead five police officers that injured seven more the Black

1422
01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:41,559
Speaker 2: Lives Matter protests on Thursday. Since then, count of terrorism

1423
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:44,880
Speaker 2: units have discovered a worrying number of individuals on social

1424
01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:47,160
Speaker 2: media praising the shoot as a hero and calling for

1425
01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:50,840
Speaker 2: similar attacks on police officers. Detroit officers have now arrested

1426
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:53,360
Speaker 2: at least four suspects after discovering they have made threats

1427
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:59,200
Speaker 2: against cops online. One suspect ro all lives can't matter

1428
01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:03,439
Speaker 2: until black lives matter kill all white cops. Another said

1429
01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:05,599
Speaker 2: it's tying to wage war and shoot the police first,

1430
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:08,400
Speaker 2: while the third said Johnson was his hero and had

1431
01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:11,080
Speaker 2: inspired me to do the exact same thing. One of

1432
01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:13,160
Speaker 2: the men arrested that had posted pictures of videos of

1433
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:16,240
Speaker 2: officers being shot on his Facebook, Waller wrote, this needs

1434
01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:20,840
Speaker 2: to happen more often. Detroit Chief James Craig said in

1435
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:22,400
Speaker 2: the wake of the Dallas mass shit and he is

1436
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:24,720
Speaker 2: taking the threat to his officers very seriously. And he

1437
01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:28,760
Speaker 2: said this department is a higher state of alertness. So

1438
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:31,160
Speaker 2: I guess that freedom of speech stuff that people talk

1439
01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:33,479
Speaker 2: about doing a part of.

1440
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:35,920
Speaker 1: Cops, which you have cops putting out going out here,

1441
01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:40,120
Speaker 1: finding random people and threatening their children and shit. Right.

1442
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 2: Two of the four African American men arrested that have

1443
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:47,120
Speaker 2: been released the wrestler in jail are unrelated outstanding warrants.

1444
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:50,040
Speaker 2: Dorian Ruff of Detroit Beach, Michigan, claimed that he was

1445
01:19:50,120 --> 01:19:52,439
Speaker 2: arrested in the middle of the night by armed officers

1446
01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:54,640
Speaker 2: on Saturday for a social media post. It is not

1447
01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:56,400
Speaker 2: clear if he was one of the four men arrested

1448
01:19:56,439 --> 01:19:58,559
Speaker 2: for threatening the lives of Detroit cops. In the Facebook

1449
01:19:58,600 --> 01:20:00,920
Speaker 2: post that has since been the he posted a picture

1450
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:04,760
Speaker 2: of Johnson after the shooting with the captioning definitely a

1451
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:11,559
Speaker 2: black hero hashtag Dallas shooter Michael Johnson rest in peace. Wow,

1452
01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:16,000
Speaker 2: he got arrested for that, So I saw so many

1453
01:20:16,040 --> 01:20:18,880
Speaker 2: people praising Charles Dorner after his shit. I wonder how

1454
01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:23,600
Speaker 2: many y'all came close to getting arrested. Carlos Williams, a

1455
01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:28,320
Speaker 2: friend of Rough, after the arrest, my friend Dorian Rough

1456
01:20:28,439 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 2: was arrested at home for this Facebook post. I guess

1457
01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:33,000
Speaker 2: it's okay to having an opinion as long as it's

1458
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:35,920
Speaker 2: not against your pressure presser. I think the recent events

1459
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:37,960
Speaker 2: have reminded police is way more of us than it

1460
01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:42,200
Speaker 2: is of them. They are afraid. After his release custody yesterday,

1461
01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 2: Ruff said he was now aware my pages being monitored.

1462
01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:47,559
Speaker 2: I'm home. Thank you for all your love and concern.

1463
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:49,400
Speaker 2: I'm now where my pages being minded. I had no

1464
01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:52,880
Speaker 2: idea Facebook posts would lead to police banging on my door,

1465
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:55,120
Speaker 2: surrounding the house with assault rifles drawn in the middle

1466
01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:57,680
Speaker 2: of the night. Questions were thrown at me. Intelligence were

1467
01:20:57,760 --> 01:21:01,000
Speaker 2: thrown right back. Hopefully I didn't offend anyone with this one.

1468
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:04,040
Speaker 2: And then the frog sipping the tmout because black people

1469
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:13,280
Speaker 2: will not be conquered. Uh yeah uh. And he got

1470
01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:15,640
Speaker 2: a picture of himself wearing a dashiki, so you know

1471
01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:17,760
Speaker 2: they probably was like, he's in on it as a game.

1472
01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:24,519
Speaker 2: I had no idea of Facebook. Okay, so yeah, they

1473
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:27,840
Speaker 2: they are arresting people for it, for talking about it.

1474
01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:33,240
Speaker 2: My question is a pretty simple one. What about the

1475
01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:36,280
Speaker 2: people that threaten to kill, rape, and murder black people

1476
01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:39,839
Speaker 2: every fucking day on the internet who talk about racism

1477
01:21:41,479 --> 01:21:44,040
Speaker 2: or down they have the freedom of speech right. If

1478
01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:46,439
Speaker 2: you're black and you talk about racism, I guarantee you've

1479
01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:51,280
Speaker 2: been threatened with at least physical violence, probably death, and

1480
01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:56,880
Speaker 2: if you're a woman, definitely rape. So we arresting them too, dog,

1481
01:21:56,960 --> 01:22:00,160
Speaker 2: we finding these people because it don't seem like the

1482
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:10,360
Speaker 2: same proactive approach when it's when it's us, Because it

1483
01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:12,519
Speaker 2: don't seem like y'all had the same approach. Uh nedda

1484
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:14,280
Speaker 2: just supposed to a picture the other day or somebody

1485
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:18,240
Speaker 2: talking about they was gonna kill her, What y'all y'all

1486
01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 2: gonna y'all gonna organize get around that person's house with

1487
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:26,000
Speaker 2: some guns or nah? I just want to know, because

1488
01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:30,200
Speaker 2: I don't have a problem with people who put threats

1489
01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:33,640
Speaker 2: online being rounded up and questioned and asked what the

1490
01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:38,160
Speaker 2: fuck are you doing? But I also don't have a

1491
01:22:38,240 --> 01:22:41,479
Speaker 2: problem with that when it's us. When are you gonna

1492
01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:44,040
Speaker 2: do it? When it's us though, it's just for you.

1493
01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:47,080
Speaker 2: Is that what the thing is? Yeah, because you have

1494
01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:50,240
Speaker 2: the power to arrest. So yeah, I'm fucked with that.

1495
01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:55,120
Speaker 2: In one hundred, what about you? A South Carolina fire

1496
01:22:55,240 --> 01:23:02,040
Speaker 2: chief got fired irony for threatening Black Lives Matter protesters

1497
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:08,479
Speaker 2: I'll run over their dumb asses. Fired, not arrested in

1498
01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:10,360
Speaker 2: the middle of night. No one came to his house

1499
01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:14,800
Speaker 2: of guns. But you know you can say that that's fine.

1500
01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:18,240
Speaker 2: He was dismissed after his superiors or alerted about two

1501
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:22,360
Speaker 2: Facebook posts he wrote, Sunday night idiots shutting down I

1502
01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:25,760
Speaker 2: won twenty six. Better not be there when I get

1503
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:28,360
Speaker 2: off work, or there's gonna be some runover dumb asses

1504
01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:33,040
Speaker 2: our lady. Update his Facebook page public service announcement announcement.

1505
01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:35,559
Speaker 2: If you attempt to shut down an interstate highway, et

1506
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:37,360
Speaker 2: cetera on my way home, you best hope I'm not

1507
01:23:37,439 --> 01:23:39,920
Speaker 2: the one, not one of the first vehicles in line,

1508
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:42,120
Speaker 2: because your ass will get run over. Period.

1509
01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:42,720
Speaker 3: That is all.

1510
01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:51,960
Speaker 2: So, yeah, he got fired, but it's default though the

1511
01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:56,439
Speaker 2: protest is fault ye, I mean, well, not arrested. No,

1512
01:23:56,600 --> 01:23:59,280
Speaker 2: it's got fired. He got fired. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah,

1513
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:02,880
Speaker 2: protesters got him fired yet black lives. Many took a job,

1514
01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:08,320
Speaker 2: took her draws, took her jibs. So yeah, they said

1515
01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:12,519
Speaker 2: it was inappropriate post. He's white, he works out of

1516
01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:17,000
Speaker 2: a firehouse that serves a predominantly minority neighborhood, and that

1517
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:19,280
Speaker 2: the post by the fireman prompted threatening calls to the

1518
01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:23,280
Speaker 2: station house. Yeah, you don't say they might follow your

1519
01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:25,559
Speaker 2: page since you know you're responsible for putting the fires

1520
01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:28,160
Speaker 2: out in that community, right, they might not be cool

1521
01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:31,240
Speaker 2: what you're talking about running over people that are advocating

1522
01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:32,600
Speaker 2: for the right for them to.

1523
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:36,000
Speaker 1: Live, right, so how they know do you might not

1524
01:24:36,439 --> 01:24:37,679
Speaker 1: let the house burn no longer?

1525
01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:45,679
Speaker 2: So yep. In Savannah, Georgia, m T was also dismissed

1526
01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:49,120
Speaker 2: for using racial slurs, obscenities, and advocating for white power

1527
01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:54,120
Speaker 2: on Facebook over the weekend. Not arrested, though, is that?

1528
01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:55,439
Speaker 1: Is this not?

1529
01:24:56,120 --> 01:24:57,080
Speaker 2: Is it a double standard?

1530
01:24:57,360 --> 01:24:58,160
Speaker 1: Is my tripping?

1531
01:24:58,720 --> 01:25:01,000
Speaker 2: No, you're not, because it ain't like y'all threatening to

1532
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:04,599
Speaker 2: kill people and everybody is saying slap on the wrist,

1533
01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:09,920
Speaker 2: the motion suspension of firing in these black dudes, they're like,

1534
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:11,000
Speaker 2: don't you got some warrants?

1535
01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:11,639
Speaker 1: Jail?

1536
01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:15,760
Speaker 2: Even if you don't, still still come down here and

1537
01:25:15,800 --> 01:25:20,599
Speaker 2: talk to us at jail zero two hundred, can hell

1538
01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:24,160
Speaker 2: one hundred. A former Miss Alabama was suspended by a

1539
01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:28,800
Speaker 2: TV station after calling the Dallas shooter a martyr. Damn

1540
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:31,439
Speaker 2: she was like the first. Yeah, she was the first

1541
01:25:31,479 --> 01:25:35,120
Speaker 2: black Men's Alabama. In nineteen ninety three, she got placed

1542
01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:37,280
Speaker 2: on administrator lead from her job at the local Miami

1543
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:39,599
Speaker 2: television station after she called the men who fairly shot

1544
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 2: five police officers a martyr and a Facebook live video

1545
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:45,240
Speaker 2: on Sunday at Tearful Jane said she was torn up

1546
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:48,880
Speaker 2: following the shooting deaths of Auton Sterling, Felondo Castile and

1547
01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:51,200
Speaker 2: discussed the guilt she feels over not morning the police

1548
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:54,839
Speaker 2: officers killed in Dallas by former Army Reserves soldier Michael Johnson.

1549
01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:57,080
Speaker 2: I don't feel sad for the officers that lost their lives,

1550
01:25:57,120 --> 01:25:59,559
Speaker 2: and I know that's not really my heart. I value

1551
01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:01,360
Speaker 2: him in life and I want to feel sad for them,

1552
01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:03,400
Speaker 2: but I can't help but feel like the shooter was

1553
01:26:03,439 --> 01:26:08,519
Speaker 2: a martyr. Jane said she knows the police officers didn't

1554
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:10,599
Speaker 2: deserve to die, but that she couldn't help the way

1555
01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:12,920
Speaker 2: she felt. She repeatedly said she does not condemn violence.

1556
01:26:13,240 --> 01:26:15,519
Speaker 2: I'm so torn up in my heart about seeing these men,

1557
01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:18,800
Speaker 2: these black men, being gunned down in our community that

1558
01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:21,479
Speaker 2: I can't help. But I but feel like I wasn't

1559
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:23,800
Speaker 2: surprised by what the shooter did to those cops. I

1560
01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:27,680
Speaker 2: think a lot of us feel the same way, so

1561
01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:28,439
Speaker 2: of course.

1562
01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:35,599
Speaker 7: High Facebook, I'm just reaching out to everybody because I'm

1563
01:26:35,680 --> 01:26:39,639
Speaker 7: just leaving church and I've pratted a lot about everything

1564
01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:44,600
Speaker 7: that's happened this week, and I can't stop replaying the

1565
01:26:44,680 --> 01:26:48,600
Speaker 7: image of these men being killed in my mind and

1566
01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:51,240
Speaker 7: my heart weeps. But I think more than anything, I'm

1567
01:26:51,320 --> 01:27:04,439
Speaker 7: dealing with a bit of guilt because because I don't

1568
01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:09,559
Speaker 7: feel I don't feel sad for the officers that lost

1569
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:13,280
Speaker 7: their lives, and I know that that's really not my heart.

1570
01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:23,639
Speaker 7: I value human life and I want to feel sad

1571
01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:27,520
Speaker 7: for them, but I can't help but feeling.

1572
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:29,759
Speaker 2: Like the shooter was a martyr.

1573
01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:32,400
Speaker 7: And I know it's not the right way to feel,

1574
01:27:32,479 --> 01:27:35,040
Speaker 7: because nobody deserves to lose their lives, and I know

1575
01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:39,519
Speaker 7: that those police officers have families and people who love

1576
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:42,519
Speaker 7: them and that they didn't deserve to die. But I'm

1577
01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:46,800
Speaker 7: so torn up in my heart about seeing these men,

1578
01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:50,240
Speaker 7: these black men being gunned down in our community that

1579
01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:51,200
Speaker 7: I can't help.

1580
01:27:54,479 --> 01:27:59,200
Speaker 2: I can't help but feel she got fire for this.

1581
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:00,439
Speaker 6: Mm hm.

1582
01:28:01,160 --> 01:28:04,280
Speaker 2: I mean, am I triven? Or is this completely different?

1583
01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:09,200
Speaker 2: Then I'm gonna run you over with my car or

1584
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:13,479
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Or white power? I mean

1585
01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:20,000
Speaker 2: she sounds emotional and in pain. I mean I felt

1586
01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:22,800
Speaker 2: a lot like this last week when I talked about

1587
01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:27,120
Speaker 2: how I wasn't feeling sad watching the videos, and I

1588
01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:30,600
Speaker 2: felt numb and I don't know what you call that,

1589
01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:34,000
Speaker 2: but for days I didn't feel anything. I watched two

1590
01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:37,479
Speaker 2: snuff films and was like, yeah, they still killing niggas.

1591
01:28:37,520 --> 01:28:39,720
Speaker 2: So I don't know what to tell anybody. I have

1592
01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:42,760
Speaker 2: nothing profound to add to this discussion. I have no

1593
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:46,240
Speaker 2: personal stories. I'm all fucking talked out at this point.

1594
01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:49,800
Speaker 2: They continue to keep doing it and it's gonna keep going,

1595
01:28:49,960 --> 01:28:54,479
Speaker 2: and nobody seems to give a fuck except us. And

1596
01:28:55,120 --> 01:28:57,080
Speaker 2: like I said, it was very difficult. It took a

1597
01:28:57,160 --> 01:28:59,560
Speaker 2: while before I could really access my emotions around it,

1598
01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:01,960
Speaker 2: because which is really important to me, because I don't

1599
01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:03,840
Speaker 2: want to be that kind of person. I'm not that

1600
01:29:03,960 --> 01:29:04,479
Speaker 2: kind of person.

1601
01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:09,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we've talked about this before. For a lot

1602
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:13,920
Speaker 1: of people, particularly black people in our country, everybody has

1603
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:19,960
Speaker 1: their own defense mechanisms and the various different ways. Some

1604
01:29:20,120 --> 01:29:24,120
Speaker 1: people are like, well nothing, they're gonna change fuck it.

1605
01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:27,080
Speaker 1: Some people that don't talk about it, they don't address it.

1606
01:29:27,640 --> 01:29:30,040
Speaker 1: Some people they constantly run away from it, you know.

1607
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:33,599
Speaker 1: And I think for some people they have cut almost

1608
01:29:33,680 --> 01:29:35,880
Speaker 1: cut that part of them off because they're like, I

1609
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:38,320
Speaker 1: can't walk around constantly in fucking fear all the time,

1610
01:29:38,400 --> 01:29:42,280
Speaker 1: Like I will drive myself fucking insane. I can't constantly

1611
01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:45,840
Speaker 1: be scared, I can't constantly be worried. And I think

1612
01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:48,840
Speaker 1: for some people it's a defense mechanism. You know, a

1613
01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:52,639
Speaker 1: lot of black folks, I personally think that don't talk

1614
01:29:52,720 --> 01:29:55,639
Speaker 1: about racial issues run away from racial issues. This shit

1615
01:29:55,720 --> 01:29:58,560
Speaker 1: affects them and they see it, whether they want to

1616
01:29:58,720 --> 01:30:02,479
Speaker 1: believe it or not, indirectly or directly affects them. And

1617
01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:05,040
Speaker 1: I think it's a defense mechanism. And it's one of

1618
01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:10,400
Speaker 1: those things where we are not allowed to express emotions.

1619
01:30:10,600 --> 01:30:14,560
Speaker 1: Back people aren't allowed to express emotions. Any emotion we

1620
01:30:14,720 --> 01:30:20,560
Speaker 1: have is overanalyzed, is dissected, it's torn to pieces. We

1621
01:30:20,640 --> 01:30:25,320
Speaker 1: aren't allowed to mourn. We aren't allowed to cry, We

1622
01:30:25,400 --> 01:30:29,599
Speaker 1: aren't allowed to get angry. Anything we do is over

1623
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:35,640
Speaker 1: Anything we do is overreaction. Any way we response is overaction.

1624
01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:36,400
Speaker 2: That's what it is.

1625
01:30:36,880 --> 01:30:40,200
Speaker 1: She expressed her feelings and it was fucking overaction. It

1626
01:30:40,240 --> 01:30:41,400
Speaker 1: was like, oh, you can't working no more.

1627
01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:45,880
Speaker 2: It's so wild because when no everything is expressed for

1628
01:30:46,040 --> 01:30:48,800
Speaker 2: people of black lives matter, or when they respond all

1629
01:30:48,920 --> 01:30:52,560
Speaker 2: lives matter, no one's getting fired for that. You know,

1630
01:30:52,800 --> 01:30:54,680
Speaker 2: when people like if someone post a video says I

1631
01:30:54,760 --> 01:30:57,800
Speaker 2: don't feel anything for Michael Brown, he should have been

1632
01:30:58,560 --> 01:31:00,879
Speaker 2: obeying the law or whatever, that's you know, the typical

1633
01:31:01,160 --> 01:31:05,960
Speaker 2: bullshit responses. They say, that's not considered a fireball offense

1634
01:31:06,240 --> 01:31:09,040
Speaker 2: because they you're not legislated to have to give a

1635
01:31:09,160 --> 01:31:13,360
Speaker 2: fuck about anybody dying unless it's some white person. You know,

1636
01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:16,400
Speaker 2: rise of what happened to Olivia on Twitter. She didn't

1637
01:31:16,439 --> 01:31:18,280
Speaker 2: care about that white kid and that crocodile, and all

1638
01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:21,120
Speaker 2: of a sudden it was like, yo, docs her, find her.

1639
01:31:21,680 --> 01:31:24,080
Speaker 2: You need to care. It's white deaf. Okay, you don't

1640
01:31:24,120 --> 01:31:26,920
Speaker 2: get to not care about that, right, you know, don't

1641
01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:27,360
Speaker 2: get not.

1642
01:31:28,800 --> 01:31:30,640
Speaker 1: And it's one of those things where you're making my

1643
01:31:30,760 --> 01:31:34,679
Speaker 1: point for me, in your mind, white lives, white lives matter,

1644
01:31:34,840 --> 01:31:38,000
Speaker 1: and nobody else's does that. That's technically what you're saying

1645
01:31:38,080 --> 01:31:42,360
Speaker 1: to me when you do this. But yet, if a

1646
01:31:42,479 --> 01:31:48,080
Speaker 1: black person is dealing and wrestling and in their hearts

1647
01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:55,439
Speaker 1: struggling with their emotions as saying, I understand these officers died,

1648
01:31:56,680 --> 01:31:59,400
Speaker 1: but at the same time, my people are dying too.

1649
01:32:00,280 --> 01:32:04,280
Speaker 2: Well. Not just that, I mean when we express black

1650
01:32:04,360 --> 01:32:10,479
Speaker 2: lives matter, or solidarity or pride or love in ourselves,

1651
01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:16,800
Speaker 2: we are aggressively attacked with not just hatred but indifference,

1652
01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:20,240
Speaker 2: and we are mocked and we are You know, if

1653
01:32:20,280 --> 01:32:23,040
Speaker 2: you just say I'm watching black Girls rock hashtag black

1654
01:32:23,080 --> 01:32:26,599
Speaker 2: girls rock, you get hit with, well, all girls rock.

1655
01:32:26,680 --> 01:32:29,639
Speaker 2: To me, that's racist, like you just but no one

1656
01:32:29,720 --> 01:32:32,320
Speaker 2: gets fired for that, is what I'm saying. Like, no

1657
01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:34,519
Speaker 2: one's gonna track that person down and say you lose

1658
01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:38,000
Speaker 2: your job because you didn't care. If someone says, well,

1659
01:32:38,080 --> 01:32:42,280
Speaker 2: Trayvon Martin shouldn't have been walking down the street at night,

1660
01:32:42,400 --> 01:32:44,160
Speaker 2: or whatever the fuck people were saying at that time,

1661
01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:47,920
Speaker 2: no one's getting fired for that, you know, Like if

1662
01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:49,920
Speaker 2: you're not calling somebody a nigger or threatening to kill

1663
01:32:49,960 --> 01:32:52,679
Speaker 2: them you're not gonna lose your job. This woman basically

1664
01:32:52,720 --> 01:32:55,920
Speaker 2: said she was in pain and she don't want to

1665
01:32:56,000 --> 01:32:59,559
Speaker 2: feel cold towards these officers. She brought the field something

1666
01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:02,800
Speaker 2: because that's not the kind of person she is, and

1667
01:33:02,920 --> 01:33:07,400
Speaker 2: they fired her. It was from she basically does an

1668
01:33:07,479 --> 01:33:10,280
Speaker 2: art program every week with this news station and they

1669
01:33:10,360 --> 01:33:18,040
Speaker 2: fire her from doing it. She's placed on administrative leave.

1670
01:33:18,680 --> 01:33:22,040
Speaker 2: She's an independent contractor and they'll look into the matter

1671
01:33:22,160 --> 01:33:25,000
Speaker 2: later and all this shit. Miss Alabama organization released a

1672
01:33:25,720 --> 01:33:30,040
Speaker 2: statement basically saying they don't agree with her viewpoints and

1673
01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:34,800
Speaker 2: it doesn't represent the current Miss Alabama although she was

1674
01:33:34,840 --> 01:33:38,599
Speaker 2: Miss album in ninety three. I mean, is anyone thinking

1675
01:33:38,720 --> 01:33:41,040
Speaker 2: like you didn't even need to release that statement. It

1676
01:33:41,120 --> 01:33:49,599
Speaker 2: has nothing to do with anything. So zero two, one hundred, yeah,

1677
01:33:49,600 --> 01:33:52,559
Speaker 2: I give it one hundred as well. By the way,

1678
01:33:52,640 --> 01:33:55,400
Speaker 2: this isn't an article or nothing, but people were talking

1679
01:33:55,439 --> 01:33:58,599
Speaker 2: about I saw this today. People were talking about Sondra

1680
01:33:58,680 --> 01:34:01,640
Speaker 2: Blind and remember bring her And of course she's a

1681
01:34:01,720 --> 01:34:05,639
Speaker 2: woman who died in a jail cell in Waller County,

1682
01:34:06,320 --> 01:34:10,040
Speaker 2: Texas on some very suspicious uh circumstances. She of course

1683
01:34:10,240 --> 01:34:15,800
Speaker 2: was also arrested for basically just being harassed by the police.

1684
01:34:15,800 --> 01:34:18,920
Speaker 2: Officer should have never been arrested. Arrested he just flipped

1685
01:34:18,920 --> 01:34:22,880
Speaker 2: the fuck out when she said, like because she wasn't

1686
01:34:22,960 --> 01:34:28,840
Speaker 2: friendly about being fucking detained for no reason. And uh,

1687
01:34:29,439 --> 01:34:32,360
Speaker 2: like I remember we covered it on the show, but

1688
01:34:33,240 --> 01:34:38,160
Speaker 2: but it's kind of brought up again today. She had

1689
01:34:38,520 --> 01:34:42,960
Speaker 2: videos basically on YouTube or a video that was like homophobic,

1690
01:34:43,120 --> 01:34:48,120
Speaker 2: you know what she was saying, Uh, being gay is

1691
01:34:48,160 --> 01:34:51,960
Speaker 2: a choice and and all this shit. And I remember

1692
01:34:51,960 --> 01:34:54,200
Speaker 2: when we covered it was just like because it was like,

1693
01:34:54,320 --> 01:34:56,680
Speaker 2: you know, after people die, they basically put all your

1694
01:34:56,720 --> 01:34:57,559
Speaker 2: information out there.

1695
01:34:57,880 --> 01:34:59,599
Speaker 1: And that was one of the things that got uncovered

1696
01:34:59,640 --> 01:35:01,720
Speaker 1: in the in the weeks after. It depends on who

1697
01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:04,439
Speaker 1: you are. If you're black, we go we scrutinize all

1698
01:35:04,479 --> 01:35:07,960
Speaker 1: your information. If you're white, and particularly if your officer, nah,

1699
01:35:08,120 --> 01:35:09,280
Speaker 1: nothing about you comes out.

1700
01:35:10,120 --> 01:35:12,479
Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean if you're black, Yeah, for black

1701
01:35:12,520 --> 01:35:14,320
Speaker 2: people were talking about black people right now. Black people

1702
01:35:14,360 --> 01:35:20,040
Speaker 2: that get killed by the police tend to, you know,

1703
01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:21,280
Speaker 2: tend to talk about it.

1704
01:35:21,439 --> 01:35:21,600
Speaker 1: You know.

1705
01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:24,400
Speaker 2: Uh, they tend to bring up everything, you know, your

1706
01:35:24,439 --> 01:35:28,120
Speaker 2: criminal record, if anything you've ever said in a Twitter post,

1707
01:35:28,400 --> 01:35:34,400
Speaker 2: you know, like all this stuff, and so uh there

1708
01:35:34,479 --> 01:35:36,280
Speaker 2: was this dude on Twitter, and I don't know his

1709
01:35:36,360 --> 01:35:38,200
Speaker 2: screen name, and I don't want to say it because

1710
01:35:38,200 --> 01:35:39,800
Speaker 2: I don't think he should be harassed or anything, for

1711
01:35:39,880 --> 01:35:43,040
Speaker 2: he's just giving his opinion. But he was like, yeah, uh,

1712
01:35:44,040 --> 01:35:46,240
Speaker 2: I don't know why people keep putting her name out there,

1713
01:35:47,080 --> 01:35:50,880
Speaker 2: you know, in the LGBTQ community, and it's offensive to

1714
01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:53,840
Speaker 2: me to even use her name in a hashtag or

1715
01:35:53,920 --> 01:35:55,920
Speaker 2: to promote her. Try to shove her down my throat

1716
01:35:56,000 --> 01:36:01,200
Speaker 2: because she is uh, she was home of fun Now

1717
01:36:01,320 --> 01:36:05,439
Speaker 2: y'alllso called her a bitch, but he deleted that tweet later,

1718
01:36:05,960 --> 01:36:10,320
Speaker 2: but I feel like that was a way I had

1719
01:36:10,400 --> 01:36:13,519
Speaker 2: never thought about hashtags when it comes to black death

1720
01:36:14,120 --> 01:36:17,120
Speaker 2: and people saying like, say her name and stuff. I've

1721
01:36:17,200 --> 01:36:19,960
Speaker 2: always and I'm asking you because I legitimately don't know

1722
01:36:20,040 --> 01:36:24,120
Speaker 2: how everybody else treats it. I've always thought the hashtag, Well,

1723
01:36:24,360 --> 01:36:25,600
Speaker 2: let me ask you, what did you What do you

1724
01:36:25,680 --> 01:36:28,960
Speaker 2: think it means when you when someone uses a hashtag

1725
01:36:29,080 --> 01:36:31,000
Speaker 2: with somebody's names. I know you don't really do it,

1726
01:36:31,120 --> 01:36:35,320
Speaker 2: but when you see, like, you know, Trayvon Martin hashtag

1727
01:36:35,520 --> 01:36:37,040
Speaker 2: or Tamir Rice or whatever.

1728
01:36:38,200 --> 01:36:43,720
Speaker 1: Honestly, truthfully, my initial response is somebody's died like that.

1729
01:36:44,040 --> 01:36:48,720
Speaker 1: That's that's literally when I see hashtags like that, I'll go, oh,

1730
01:36:48,840 --> 01:36:50,439
Speaker 1: somebody must have died somewhere like.

1731
01:36:51,920 --> 01:36:51,960
Speaker 3: Like.

1732
01:36:52,160 --> 01:36:56,720
Speaker 1: That's initially by first response, and depending on what's going

1733
01:36:56,760 --> 01:36:59,320
Speaker 1: on in the day, I might go okay and going

1734
01:36:59,360 --> 01:37:01,680
Speaker 1: by my marror the way, or I might click, you know,

1735
01:37:01,840 --> 01:37:03,000
Speaker 1: to kind of investigate.

1736
01:37:03,720 --> 01:37:10,479
Speaker 2: Yeah. To me, I've always viewed the use of those

1737
01:37:10,600 --> 01:37:16,120
Speaker 2: hashtags to mean another black life or brown life or

1738
01:37:16,160 --> 01:37:20,800
Speaker 2: whatever was snuffed out by the police that did not

1739
01:37:20,960 --> 01:37:24,840
Speaker 2: deserve to die. That's how I always taking it.

1740
01:37:25,080 --> 01:37:25,120
Speaker 3: Like.

1741
01:37:25,360 --> 01:37:35,840
Speaker 2: It's never meant reverence, it's never meant absolution. It's never

1742
01:37:35,960 --> 01:37:39,320
Speaker 2: meant that these people were perfect. It only means they

1743
01:37:39,320 --> 01:37:43,559
Speaker 2: should be alive. You know, I don't know these people.

1744
01:37:43,720 --> 01:37:45,759
Speaker 2: I can't relate to all of them, and I actually

1745
01:37:47,360 --> 01:37:49,040
Speaker 2: I stopped a long time ago, and I don't know

1746
01:37:49,040 --> 01:37:52,800
Speaker 2: if people noticed. But I don't talk about how good

1747
01:37:53,040 --> 01:37:56,519
Speaker 2: or bad of a kid or person or or someone was.

1748
01:37:56,640 --> 01:38:00,599
Speaker 2: I don't because it doesn't matter. You shouldn't killing us,

1749
01:38:00,800 --> 01:38:04,519
Speaker 2: period and it needs to stop. So I'm not gonna

1750
01:38:04,800 --> 01:38:07,280
Speaker 2: buy into the respectability part of it. Of well, he

1751
01:38:07,680 --> 01:38:11,679
Speaker 2: is just a man selling CDs, and he has a family.

1752
01:38:12,160 --> 01:38:14,320
Speaker 2: I don't know this guy. He could also be a

1753
01:38:14,400 --> 01:38:17,479
Speaker 2: serial killer. It just doesn't matter. In this interaction. You

1754
01:38:17,600 --> 01:38:19,240
Speaker 2: didn't know any of this shit, and he took his

1755
01:38:19,439 --> 01:38:26,920
Speaker 2: life because of nothing but racism, police police over use

1756
01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:31,840
Speaker 2: of force. Like none of this was playing out like

1757
01:38:31,920 --> 01:38:34,879
Speaker 2: none of this you You didn't go, oh, dangerous suspect,

1758
01:38:35,000 --> 01:38:40,400
Speaker 2: because I know what his Twitter page says. So I

1759
01:38:40,479 --> 01:38:42,919
Speaker 2: don't think of those things when I see that hashtag,

1760
01:38:43,000 --> 01:38:45,560
Speaker 2: when I see someone's name, I don't think they're a

1761
01:38:45,560 --> 01:38:48,400
Speaker 2: perfect person. I feel like, you know, in a lot

1762
01:38:48,439 --> 01:38:50,600
Speaker 2: of in a lot of ways, I don't know what

1763
01:38:50,880 --> 01:38:53,920
Speaker 2: they represent on an individual level. And you know, I

1764
01:38:54,000 --> 01:38:59,280
Speaker 2: don't know what Freddie Gray's politics were. Yeah, Like, for

1765
01:38:59,400 --> 01:39:02,720
Speaker 2: the purpose of this, I'll just say I don't know

1766
01:39:02,840 --> 01:39:05,120
Speaker 2: those things. Okay, I'm not gonna say I don't need

1767
01:39:05,160 --> 01:39:06,920
Speaker 2: to know. I'm not gonna say I don't care, because

1768
01:39:06,920 --> 01:39:09,560
Speaker 2: I do care, and I do and I and and

1769
01:39:09,840 --> 01:39:11,479
Speaker 2: and it's those things. It's that thing where if you

1770
01:39:11,560 --> 01:39:13,680
Speaker 2: tell me some information, I'm not gonna run away from it,

1771
01:39:13,880 --> 01:39:16,759
Speaker 2: Like what, I'm not gonna.

1772
01:39:16,560 --> 01:39:19,080
Speaker 1: Run away from it. But I guess the way, I

1773
01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:23,360
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm being very naive or if

1774
01:39:23,360 --> 01:39:26,400
Speaker 1: I'm just being simple minded when I say this, you died,

1775
01:39:26,960 --> 01:39:32,280
Speaker 1: and to me, that's the end. And your feels and

1776
01:39:32,400 --> 01:39:35,840
Speaker 1: your opinion, I'm sorry, your views and your opinion, your

1777
01:39:35,920 --> 01:39:39,840
Speaker 1: political background, your sexual orientation, I don't give a fuck.

1778
01:39:40,080 --> 01:39:43,120
Speaker 1: You're died, like and to me, that's just the end

1779
01:39:43,200 --> 01:39:46,720
Speaker 1: of it, you know. And the thing about it, a

1780
01:39:46,800 --> 01:39:48,760
Speaker 1: lot of this other shit that people bring up a

1781
01:39:48,840 --> 01:39:53,120
Speaker 1: lot of times, it's just to discredit the deaths. That's

1782
01:39:53,160 --> 01:39:55,880
Speaker 1: it to me, Like I said, maybe I'm looking at

1783
01:39:55,920 --> 01:39:58,439
Speaker 1: it wrong. I think it's just to discredit the deaths,

1784
01:39:58,920 --> 01:40:02,240
Speaker 1: you know, like you died. And the thing is, there

1785
01:40:02,280 --> 01:40:05,160
Speaker 1: are black people within the movement to go, well, this

1786
01:40:05,320 --> 01:40:07,680
Speaker 1: person died in my area. Nobody gave a fuck about this.

1787
01:40:07,840 --> 01:40:09,880
Speaker 1: And this person died in my area, nobody gave a

1788
01:40:09,920 --> 01:40:12,000
Speaker 1: fuck about that. And sometimes I think people go on

1789
01:40:12,120 --> 01:40:15,680
Speaker 1: these personal attacks against other dead people, which defeats the

1790
01:40:15,760 --> 01:40:19,600
Speaker 1: whole purpose. And my thing is, who's to say she

1791
01:40:19,880 --> 01:40:22,679
Speaker 1: couldn't have evolved and she couldn't have changed the person

1792
01:40:22,760 --> 01:40:25,479
Speaker 1: you are now? You wouldn't the same person five years ago.

1793
01:40:25,720 --> 01:40:27,320
Speaker 1: And a lot of it is just a form of

1794
01:40:27,520 --> 01:40:31,000
Speaker 1: judgment too. You're just judging people, and like I said,

1795
01:40:31,479 --> 01:40:33,439
Speaker 1: I'm very simple when it comes to this. I do

1796
01:40:33,920 --> 01:40:37,400
Speaker 1: not care you are killed unjustly the end.

1797
01:40:37,479 --> 01:40:42,200
Speaker 2: To me, Yeah, I like, I feel like that's supposed

1798
01:40:42,200 --> 01:40:44,040
Speaker 2: to be a universe unifying call?

1799
01:40:45,200 --> 01:40:45,360
Speaker 3: Is that?

1800
01:40:46,360 --> 01:40:48,800
Speaker 2: Because to me, if it's not, then it's like, what

1801
01:40:49,160 --> 01:40:53,280
Speaker 2: is this shit really like? If it's not a unifying like,

1802
01:40:53,920 --> 01:40:57,240
Speaker 2: can we agree that you shouldn't be taking these people's lives?

1803
01:40:57,960 --> 01:41:00,639
Speaker 2: I feel like we can start there. That being said,

1804
01:41:02,080 --> 01:41:05,760
Speaker 2: I'm open minded to the fact that, yeah, are we

1805
01:41:06,040 --> 01:41:09,639
Speaker 2: asking you to memorialize your abuser because I didn't think

1806
01:41:09,680 --> 01:41:12,840
Speaker 2: of hashtags this way. I don't think this means to

1807
01:41:12,920 --> 01:41:15,040
Speaker 2: me or Rice is the same. I don't think this

1808
01:41:15,240 --> 01:41:18,240
Speaker 2: means Trayvon Martin is the saying. I don't think it means.

1809
01:41:18,360 --> 01:41:19,840
Speaker 2: Eric Gardner is the saying. I don't think it means.

1810
01:41:19,880 --> 01:41:21,639
Speaker 2: Sandra Bland is the same. I don't think it means

1811
01:41:21,640 --> 01:41:23,840
Speaker 2: with kyr Boyd is the saint. I just want them

1812
01:41:23,880 --> 01:41:26,920
Speaker 2: to stop killing us. And if people have issues with

1813
01:41:27,000 --> 01:41:31,639
Speaker 2: the individual, you know, people that have been killed, who

1814
01:41:31,680 --> 01:41:34,200
Speaker 2: are who are dead and don't they don't even have

1815
01:41:34,760 --> 01:41:37,840
Speaker 2: the ability the opportunity to become a better person, to

1816
01:41:37,920 --> 01:41:41,880
Speaker 2: be educated, they don't have an ability to develop. Their

1817
01:41:41,920 --> 01:41:46,840
Speaker 2: life is gone, you know. But I asked people this

1818
01:41:47,000 --> 01:41:49,519
Speaker 2: because I had never considered it, and I just thought

1819
01:41:49,560 --> 01:41:53,720
Speaker 2: to myself, maybe it's just people have different lines, and

1820
01:41:53,840 --> 01:41:56,240
Speaker 2: if that's the case, then you shouldn't chastise this person

1821
01:41:56,280 --> 01:41:58,200
Speaker 2: for having a different line than you. To be quite honest,

1822
01:41:58,920 --> 01:42:01,840
Speaker 2: they say, fucking anybody that's on homophobia, I don't fuck

1823
01:42:01,880 --> 01:42:03,800
Speaker 2: with them. Shouldn't have called her a bitch when you're

1824
01:42:03,800 --> 01:42:08,120
Speaker 2: making this point about you know, yeah, he calling the

1825
01:42:08,160 --> 01:42:09,920
Speaker 2: black woman a bitch. That's that's definitely a bad And

1826
01:42:10,000 --> 01:42:13,280
Speaker 2: he deleted that that tweet, so I think he recognized

1827
01:42:13,320 --> 01:42:15,519
Speaker 2: that that was he or she. I can't remember the person,

1828
01:42:15,600 --> 01:42:18,840
Speaker 2: but they recognized that that was the wrong way to

1829
01:42:18,960 --> 01:42:21,800
Speaker 2: handle that and to say that. But to me, even

1830
01:42:21,880 --> 01:42:25,120
Speaker 2: in deleting that tweet, you prove that that's an opportunity

1831
01:42:25,160 --> 01:42:28,400
Speaker 2: that a person like Sandra Blaine will never have, Like

1832
01:42:28,600 --> 01:42:31,360
Speaker 2: that is a privilege that she doesn't have because her

1833
01:42:31,439 --> 01:42:34,880
Speaker 2: life was taken, Like we can't ever go back. She

1834
01:42:35,000 --> 01:42:38,439
Speaker 2: can never like that image of her last forever and

1835
01:42:38,560 --> 01:42:42,680
Speaker 2: it can't be defended, and it can't be nothing can

1836
01:42:42,800 --> 01:42:45,560
Speaker 2: continue for her life because it was taken, you know,

1837
01:42:45,760 --> 01:42:48,840
Speaker 2: it was snuffed out, and to me, that seems to

1838
01:42:48,880 --> 01:42:52,400
Speaker 2: be the unifying factor. But you know, this person was like,

1839
01:42:52,439 --> 01:42:55,680
Speaker 2: I'll never use her name a hashtag, fuck her, you

1840
01:42:55,760 --> 01:43:01,679
Speaker 2: know all this shit, And I don't think you should

1841
01:43:01,760 --> 01:43:03,920
Speaker 2: have to accept that from anybody, Like I don't think

1842
01:43:03,960 --> 01:43:06,800
Speaker 2: you should have to accept homophobia from somebody. I don't think,

1843
01:43:06,920 --> 01:43:11,439
Speaker 2: I mean, But my question is if that's how people

1844
01:43:11,600 --> 01:43:19,560
Speaker 2: feel about hashtags, that there's somehow memorializing and raising the

1845
01:43:19,680 --> 01:43:23,439
Speaker 2: name up and saying I'm supportive of this person and

1846
01:43:23,520 --> 01:43:25,680
Speaker 2: the views they had while they're alive. If that's how

1847
01:43:25,760 --> 01:43:33,280
Speaker 2: people feel, then I mean, Alton Sterling was convicted or

1848
01:43:33,360 --> 01:43:38,240
Speaker 2: charged with statutory rape. You know, his pictures on the

1849
01:43:38,280 --> 01:43:40,760
Speaker 2: front page of all these places. His name is the

1850
01:43:40,840 --> 01:43:44,320
Speaker 2: one people are organizing around right now. So is it

1851
01:43:44,400 --> 01:43:46,639
Speaker 2: that we don't care about a fourteen year old girl

1852
01:43:46,720 --> 01:43:50,040
Speaker 2: who possibly was black, possibly might be a little black

1853
01:43:50,080 --> 01:43:53,200
Speaker 2: girl that he got charged with doing this too? Is

1854
01:43:53,240 --> 01:43:56,800
Speaker 2: it that we don't care? You know what I mean?

1855
01:43:56,960 --> 01:44:02,000
Speaker 2: Does it not matter? Or is that okay? But but

1856
01:44:02,320 --> 01:44:05,280
Speaker 2: Sondra Bland wasn't you know what I'm saying, Like, I

1857
01:44:05,439 --> 01:44:08,720
Speaker 2: wonder what the what are the new parameters if that

1858
01:44:08,880 --> 01:44:11,400
Speaker 2: is the way people consider it, because I asked people

1859
01:44:12,080 --> 01:44:14,920
Speaker 2: because I was like, maybe this is how more people

1860
01:44:15,040 --> 01:44:17,439
Speaker 2: view it than I do. Maybe I'm under minority. I've

1861
01:44:17,439 --> 01:44:21,519
Speaker 2: been viewing this as a cause. And these are the names.

1862
01:44:21,640 --> 01:44:24,760
Speaker 2: But as far as the people, I don't know them

1863
01:44:24,840 --> 01:44:29,519
Speaker 2: and I'm not speaking for them, and they're not speaking

1864
01:44:29,600 --> 01:44:31,479
Speaker 2: for me as far I don't know what their beliefs are.

1865
01:44:31,720 --> 01:44:33,960
Speaker 2: I just know they should be alive. Here's the thing

1866
01:44:34,160 --> 01:44:37,559
Speaker 2: I said, if Stacy dash got killed out of police,

1867
01:44:37,680 --> 01:44:40,320
Speaker 2: how many people would not put her name in a hashtag?

1868
01:44:41,240 --> 01:44:44,000
Speaker 2: And immediately a few people was like, hell, no, fuck

1869
01:44:44,080 --> 01:44:46,120
Speaker 2: that bit. I'm not No, I would not do that shit.

1870
01:44:46,840 --> 01:44:49,320
Speaker 2: You know, she's as too much. Some people were like

1871
01:44:49,400 --> 01:44:51,920
Speaker 2: me with her, like of course, like the cause is

1872
01:44:51,960 --> 01:44:54,439
Speaker 2: the cause. It doesn't really matter that I disagree with

1873
01:44:54,520 --> 01:44:58,479
Speaker 2: her and think she's a horrible human being the end

1874
01:44:58,520 --> 01:45:01,200
Speaker 2: of the day, if you're dead about a police because

1875
01:45:01,200 --> 01:45:04,479
Speaker 2: you're black, then black lives matter, dog is just what

1876
01:45:04,600 --> 01:45:06,400
Speaker 2: it is, right because and and I and.

1877
01:45:06,479 --> 01:45:10,160
Speaker 1: I think from my perspective, it it it's.

1878
01:45:11,080 --> 01:45:11,120
Speaker 4: You.

1879
01:45:11,320 --> 01:45:12,400
Speaker 2: You're putting your.

1880
01:45:12,400 --> 01:45:17,200
Speaker 1: Own personal agendas, your own personal feelings and all this

1881
01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:21,720
Speaker 1: stuff above the calls, uh, And that's fine, you have

1882
01:45:21,840 --> 01:45:23,519
Speaker 1: the right to do that, but I just don't agree

1883
01:45:23,520 --> 01:45:26,040
Speaker 1: with that. I think the calls is larger than that,

1884
01:45:26,520 --> 01:45:30,479
Speaker 1: you know, because you're you're talking about you, yourself as

1885
01:45:30,520 --> 01:45:33,080
Speaker 1: an individual person and how you feel, which is cool,

1886
01:45:33,920 --> 01:45:36,519
Speaker 1: but everybody doesn't feel like that, and everybody's not gonna

1887
01:45:36,520 --> 01:45:40,000
Speaker 1: be in agreeance with that. And I think that, you know,

1888
01:45:40,560 --> 01:45:44,200
Speaker 1: it's one of those things where it's like, Okay, a

1889
01:45:44,280 --> 01:45:48,759
Speaker 1: hashtag pops up with somebody and you're immediately have people

1890
01:45:49,320 --> 01:45:52,040
Speaker 1: just devaluating your life because you're black, and then you

1891
01:45:52,240 --> 01:45:54,920
Speaker 1: mean to have other these other people just devaluate your

1892
01:45:54,960 --> 01:45:56,760
Speaker 1: life because of shit that you've done in the past.

1893
01:45:56,800 --> 01:45:58,720
Speaker 1: We've all done things in the past.

1894
01:46:00,280 --> 01:46:01,880
Speaker 2: And I mean, to me, the kid is they have

1895
01:46:02,000 --> 01:46:05,720
Speaker 2: no future now. But the thing I was thinking was

1896
01:46:06,680 --> 01:46:10,760
Speaker 2: with the movement that even started, if with the way

1897
01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:13,160
Speaker 2: that black men treat and talk about black women, if

1898
01:46:13,240 --> 01:46:15,439
Speaker 2: the thing was, let's go into each one of these

1899
01:46:15,479 --> 01:46:20,240
Speaker 2: people's Twitter accounts, Facebook accounts, the music they've made, anything,

1900
01:46:20,560 --> 01:46:23,320
Speaker 2: you know, let's look at the kind of person they are.

1901
01:46:24,200 --> 01:46:28,080
Speaker 2: You know, if you find out Trayvon Martin posted some

1902
01:46:28,160 --> 01:46:32,599
Speaker 2: homophobic stuff on Twitter, are we is no more hashtag,

1903
01:46:32,720 --> 01:46:35,040
Speaker 2: no more marching for him, Like would it even start?

1904
01:46:35,160 --> 01:46:38,160
Speaker 2: Is my question? Because I don't know, because I mean,

1905
01:46:38,240 --> 01:46:40,360
Speaker 2: like I said, this is new information to me. It's

1906
01:46:40,560 --> 01:46:45,679
Speaker 2: not something I really heavily considered before because I was like, yeah,

1907
01:46:45,880 --> 01:46:50,240
Speaker 2: but I would march for anybody, like you know, I mean,

1908
01:46:50,320 --> 01:46:52,240
Speaker 2: if I was marching, I only let me say, don't

1909
01:46:52,320 --> 01:46:55,040
Speaker 2: let me say that I would advocate for anybody. I

1910
01:46:55,080 --> 01:46:57,080
Speaker 2: don't want to say I was marching, but I would

1911
01:46:57,120 --> 01:47:00,680
Speaker 2: advocate for anybody, like the point being, you know, and

1912
01:47:00,760 --> 01:47:04,600
Speaker 2: then also there's levels to what's required people. You know,

1913
01:47:05,120 --> 01:47:08,160
Speaker 2: some people are like I'm actually being a being told

1914
01:47:08,240 --> 01:47:12,240
Speaker 2: to work, Like y'all want me to organize a march

1915
01:47:12,400 --> 01:47:16,519
Speaker 2: for this woman. I refuse. You know, I don't know,

1916
01:47:16,760 --> 01:47:20,320
Speaker 2: Like this is like it's not neat, there's no one rule.

1917
01:47:20,479 --> 01:47:24,080
Speaker 1: And to me, once you start doing this, you get

1918
01:47:24,160 --> 01:47:27,960
Speaker 1: into a lot of nuances. It's like, okay, do you

1919
01:47:28,600 --> 01:47:30,280
Speaker 1: and're not trying funny you called her a bitch. That

1920
01:47:30,439 --> 01:47:33,280
Speaker 1: also is underlined there's some other issues going on there.

1921
01:47:33,720 --> 01:47:36,680
Speaker 1: So if it's a man and he's straight and you

1922
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Speaker 1: find out he has some stuff with all of a sudden,

1923
01:47:39,080 --> 01:47:42,880
Speaker 1: like if Bill Cosby was to die unjustly for the

1924
01:47:42,960 --> 01:47:45,120
Speaker 1: police calls where people be like, well, fuck Bill Cosby,

1925
01:47:45,240 --> 01:47:47,280
Speaker 1: I'm not I don't want I'm not doing a hashtag

1926
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Speaker 1: because of the ship he did.

1927
01:47:50,400 --> 01:47:52,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and you know what, the other thing

1928
01:47:52,880 --> 01:48:00,240
Speaker 2: is this too, I don't. I think we're just at

1929
01:48:00,280 --> 01:48:04,280
Speaker 2: a point where and everybody, you know, we forget different

1930
01:48:04,280 --> 01:48:07,160
Speaker 2: people are different ages, different people have different life experiences,

1931
01:48:08,960 --> 01:48:11,160
Speaker 2: and as it kind of goes back to the same

1932
01:48:11,240 --> 01:48:15,360
Speaker 2: thing for me, some people are at the point and

1933
01:48:15,479 --> 01:48:17,160
Speaker 2: I think I was at this point in my lifetime

1934
01:48:17,240 --> 01:48:19,240
Speaker 2: once now, but I'm older and I'm kind of off

1935
01:48:19,320 --> 01:48:21,519
Speaker 2: of it. But it was like, if I can point

1936
01:48:21,520 --> 01:48:24,760
Speaker 2: out that something has a problem, I feel like I've

1937
01:48:24,840 --> 01:48:25,479
Speaker 2: done something.

1938
01:48:26,760 --> 01:48:26,920
Speaker 1: You know.

1939
01:48:27,040 --> 01:48:29,280
Speaker 2: It's like being the smartest kid in school or something

1940
01:48:29,320 --> 01:48:31,400
Speaker 2: like I am the one who figured out why this

1941
01:48:31,680 --> 01:48:34,840
Speaker 2: was a problem. And I think that happens a lot

1942
01:48:34,960 --> 01:48:37,920
Speaker 2: with people where they don't have a solution, they don't

1943
01:48:37,960 --> 01:48:42,320
Speaker 2: have a better way, they don't have they just want

1944
01:48:42,360 --> 01:48:44,320
Speaker 2: to make the point that they're able to make, which

1945
01:48:44,360 --> 01:48:47,120
Speaker 2: is that this woman was not perfect. And not only

1946
01:48:47,240 --> 01:48:50,120
Speaker 2: was she not perfect, she was absolutely offensive to me

1947
01:48:50,320 --> 01:48:53,880
Speaker 2: on many levels, and I did not appreciate her opinion.

1948
01:48:54,400 --> 01:48:57,840
Speaker 2: So if she's dead in the auspices of how we

1949
01:48:58,000 --> 01:49:02,439
Speaker 2: memorialize these victims with the hashtags fuck her, fuck her death,

1950
01:49:02,760 --> 01:49:05,000
Speaker 2: basically you can go back and try to clean it

1951
01:49:05,080 --> 01:49:07,320
Speaker 2: up on something like, Yeah, I'm not saying she should

1952
01:49:07,360 --> 01:49:10,960
Speaker 2: have died, but no, you are saying she should not

1953
01:49:11,320 --> 01:49:17,160
Speaker 2: be memorialized in this way. You know, because I just

1954
01:49:17,280 --> 01:49:19,680
Speaker 2: never thought of a hashtag as a celebration. The only

1955
01:49:19,720 --> 01:49:21,639
Speaker 2: way to get a hashtag is dying. I don't want

1956
01:49:21,680 --> 01:49:23,439
Speaker 2: to do that. I don't want to know hashtag right,

1957
01:49:23,520 --> 01:49:23,920
Speaker 2: and and and.

1958
01:49:24,160 --> 01:49:26,200
Speaker 1: The last thing I want to do is die and

1959
01:49:26,320 --> 01:49:30,080
Speaker 1: have a fucking hashtag about me trending. And all of

1960
01:49:30,120 --> 01:49:34,160
Speaker 1: a sudden, you're getting judgment and you're getting your life turn.

1961
01:49:34,200 --> 01:49:36,920
Speaker 1: Apart from from two sides, from people that are quote

1962
01:49:36,960 --> 01:49:39,960
Speaker 1: unquote supposed to be supporting you, that looks like you

1963
01:49:40,400 --> 01:49:42,840
Speaker 1: going with bitch, you ain't shit because in third grade

1964
01:49:43,040 --> 01:49:46,240
Speaker 1: your stolen Snickers bar and somebody else gonna with bitch,

1965
01:49:46,280 --> 01:49:48,280
Speaker 1: you ain't shit because you should have just listened to

1966
01:49:48,400 --> 01:49:50,960
Speaker 1: the law. Well, like I say, I might be in

1967
01:49:51,040 --> 01:49:53,479
Speaker 1: the room, but as far as I'm concerned, if I

1968
01:49:53,520 --> 01:49:57,000
Speaker 1: see a hashtag, it is something wrong, something happened for

1969
01:49:57,160 --> 01:50:01,280
Speaker 1: this hashtag to come up. Something happened. You died unjustly,

1970
01:50:01,479 --> 01:50:05,120
Speaker 1: and as far as I'm concerned, that's what matters.

1971
01:50:05,960 --> 01:50:09,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I said, I I don't know what to

1972
01:50:09,520 --> 01:50:12,599
Speaker 2: tell people because, on the one hand, I understand dog

1973
01:50:12,840 --> 01:50:15,360
Speaker 2: like just because I'm not in that kind of person,

1974
01:50:15,479 --> 01:50:17,200
Speaker 2: that don't mean everybody else ain't that kind of person.

1975
01:50:17,280 --> 01:50:20,559
Speaker 2: Ain't no consensus. Like like I said, when I asked

1976
01:50:20,600 --> 01:50:23,360
Speaker 2: about Stacey Dash and people was like mm hmm, I

1977
01:50:23,520 --> 01:50:26,080
Speaker 2: was like, okay, so then maybe people should back off

1978
01:50:26,120 --> 01:50:28,880
Speaker 2: of this dude, cause all he did was give his opinion.

1979
01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:30,040
Speaker 1: What.

1980
01:50:30,439 --> 01:50:34,600
Speaker 2: He's not required to feel sorry. He's not required the

1981
01:50:34,680 --> 01:50:36,639
Speaker 2: same way that woman wasn't required to feel sorry about

1982
01:50:36,640 --> 01:50:39,000
Speaker 2: those cops. He's not required to feel sorry about this.

1983
01:50:41,280 --> 01:50:49,320
Speaker 2: I like, it's gonna be difficult to Yeah, it would

1984
01:50:49,360 --> 01:50:52,040
Speaker 2: just be difficult if we're gonna go through victims' lives

1985
01:50:52,320 --> 01:50:55,120
Speaker 2: and determine who's worthy and who's not, because the line

1986
01:50:55,200 --> 01:50:58,840
Speaker 2: varies for everybody. And like I said, people march for

1987
01:50:58,920 --> 01:51:03,880
Speaker 2: Alton Sterling, and you know there's this statutory rate thing

1988
01:51:04,120 --> 01:51:08,120
Speaker 2: just hanging right there, and you know, I don't I mean,

1989
01:51:08,120 --> 01:51:10,640
Speaker 2: I like, I don't know what the appropriate amount of

1990
01:51:10,680 --> 01:51:12,439
Speaker 2: time is gonna be for people to bring that up

1991
01:51:12,520 --> 01:51:15,160
Speaker 2: or whatever. But at some point I expect to see

1992
01:51:15,200 --> 01:51:17,519
Speaker 2: some people probably being like, man, fuck him, I'll never

1993
01:51:17,600 --> 01:51:20,639
Speaker 2: hashtag that dude, you know, and go through this whole

1994
01:51:20,720 --> 01:51:23,240
Speaker 2: thing again, and probably can do that for just about

1995
01:51:23,280 --> 01:51:29,080
Speaker 2: every single victim of police uh, you know, murder, basically,

1996
01:51:29,240 --> 01:51:32,960
Speaker 2: Like you could probably do that for everyone. Because while

1997
01:51:33,000 --> 01:51:36,080
Speaker 2: you have when you have a unifying cause and you

1998
01:51:36,160 --> 01:51:38,160
Speaker 2: want attention to it and you won't work behind it,

1999
01:51:38,280 --> 01:51:40,680
Speaker 2: you also have to deal with the opinions of the

2000
01:51:40,720 --> 01:51:43,200
Speaker 2: people that come in and do that. You want those

2001
01:51:43,280 --> 01:51:45,519
Speaker 2: retweets that you gonna have to deal with the opinion

2002
01:51:45,600 --> 01:51:48,440
Speaker 2: of people that are like, yo, not this person.

2003
01:51:50,280 --> 01:51:52,840
Speaker 1: That's true, and and and and and like I said,

2004
01:51:52,920 --> 01:51:55,360
Speaker 1: they like I would never go harass them or tell

2005
01:51:55,360 --> 01:51:57,120
Speaker 1: them they're wrong or anything like that. But I know,

2006
01:51:57,280 --> 01:51:59,880
Speaker 1: for me, I feel very strongly because it's a thing

2007
01:52:00,800 --> 01:52:03,960
Speaker 1: when you start dictating who's worthy, Like that's the thing,

2008
01:52:04,320 --> 01:52:07,920
Speaker 1: who's worthy. It's like, so now when people die, we

2009
01:52:08,080 --> 01:52:11,720
Speaker 1: got to basically calm and go through their background and

2010
01:52:11,840 --> 01:52:13,760
Speaker 1: find out what they did wrong and do all this

2011
01:52:13,840 --> 01:52:18,240
Speaker 1: private fucking investigation. When another fucking black person died, But

2012
01:52:18,439 --> 01:52:20,280
Speaker 1: yet at the same time, when it comes to the

2013
01:52:20,360 --> 01:52:22,840
Speaker 1: officers doing it, and they do this, and the races

2014
01:52:22,920 --> 01:52:25,920
Speaker 1: come around and tell you that this person's life wasn't worthy,

2015
01:52:26,600 --> 01:52:28,639
Speaker 1: you don't want to hear that. But yet you're doing

2016
01:52:28,720 --> 01:52:31,280
Speaker 1: the exact same thing. It's like you're it's like you're

2017
01:52:31,280 --> 01:52:33,560
Speaker 1: getting it from both sides. And maybe it's just me

2018
01:52:33,840 --> 01:52:36,440
Speaker 1: and the way my mind takes. I do not understand

2019
01:52:36,560 --> 01:52:40,360
Speaker 1: that who determines who's worthy of being killed by the police.

2020
01:52:41,360 --> 01:52:43,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I said, I don't know that this person's

2021
01:52:43,800 --> 01:52:45,880
Speaker 2: advocating for her to be killed by the police. He's

2022
01:52:46,680 --> 01:52:50,679
Speaker 2: saying not to memorialize her basically, which I also don't

2023
01:52:50,680 --> 01:52:54,400
Speaker 2: agree with. I think for my personal I can't tell

2024
01:52:54,479 --> 01:52:57,400
Speaker 2: anyone else what to do. My personal thing is I

2025
01:52:57,439 --> 01:53:01,200
Speaker 2: would never not talk about somebody dying by cops because

2026
01:53:01,240 --> 01:53:04,000
Speaker 2: of some shit they did in life. I wouldn't if

2027
01:53:04,080 --> 01:53:06,000
Speaker 2: you died, I was gonna buy the cops because you're like,

2028
01:53:06,120 --> 01:53:09,439
Speaker 2: I'm wanna I'm gonna say this person should not have died,

2029
01:53:09,479 --> 01:53:11,280
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna say your name if I can remember

2030
01:53:11,280 --> 01:53:12,960
Speaker 2: your name. They're killing so many people you probably won't

2031
01:53:13,000 --> 01:53:14,840
Speaker 2: have to worry about this in a while. But the

2032
01:53:14,920 --> 01:53:19,599
Speaker 2: point being, uh, I can't ever see myself being like, well,

2033
01:53:19,680 --> 01:53:23,439
Speaker 2: fuck talking about that person's death, you know what I'm saying. Fuck,

2034
01:53:23,640 --> 01:53:27,120
Speaker 2: Like I can say this person has some horrible opinions

2035
01:53:27,160 --> 01:53:30,240
Speaker 2: and I disagree with them, and you know, I, you know,

2036
01:53:30,479 --> 01:53:34,519
Speaker 2: I couldn't see how that would be okay, But not

2037
01:53:34,640 --> 01:53:36,120
Speaker 2: aware in the age of the internet, I'm telling you

2038
01:53:36,320 --> 01:53:38,880
Speaker 2: everything is I can point out a problem. I used

2039
01:53:38,880 --> 01:53:41,519
Speaker 2: to be I used that's what I used to think

2040
01:53:41,680 --> 01:53:44,080
Speaker 2: being smart and in tune was being able to point

2041
01:53:44,080 --> 01:53:46,320
Speaker 2: out a problem. When I got older, I realized being

2042
01:53:46,320 --> 01:53:49,519
Speaker 2: able to point out a solution was more stronger than

2043
01:53:49,560 --> 01:53:52,200
Speaker 2: pointing out a problem. But everyone has to go through

2044
01:53:52,200 --> 01:53:54,640
Speaker 2: these phases. When you're twenty four to twenty five, you

2045
01:53:54,840 --> 01:53:56,280
Speaker 2: just pointing out all the problems in the world, like

2046
01:53:56,320 --> 01:53:58,599
Speaker 2: look at this, look at that, he did this, they

2047
01:53:58,680 --> 01:54:00,720
Speaker 2: did that. No one's perfect, y'all. I figured it out,

2048
01:54:00,800 --> 01:54:02,400
Speaker 2: and some people do get stuck there, and that's where

2049
01:54:02,400 --> 01:54:04,160
Speaker 2: they're gonna live for the rest of their lives. Is

2050
01:54:04,520 --> 01:54:06,280
Speaker 2: look at me, I'm so important. I figured it out,

2051
01:54:06,720 --> 01:54:08,840
Speaker 2: but I don't live there. I try to go, well,

2052
01:54:08,880 --> 01:54:12,439
Speaker 2: what's the solution? Then, you know, because it's only one

2053
01:54:12,520 --> 01:54:15,439
Speaker 2: solution I can see to somebody like Sundra Bland having

2054
01:54:16,040 --> 01:54:21,320
Speaker 2: homophobic opinions at the age that she was living to

2055
01:54:21,560 --> 01:54:26,800
Speaker 2: learn better, that's the only solution. Like and maybe she

2056
01:54:27,080 --> 01:54:32,160
Speaker 2: never would have or maybe or maybe she would We'll

2057
01:54:32,280 --> 01:54:36,440
Speaker 2: never know. We'll literally never know. And that's the horrible

2058
01:54:36,560 --> 01:54:38,920
Speaker 2: unfairness of it is we'll never know because she was black.

2059
01:54:39,600 --> 01:54:41,240
Speaker 2: She was a black woman that got pulled over and

2060
01:54:41,920 --> 01:54:44,400
Speaker 2: quote unquote mouthed off to the cops. So that's good

2061
01:54:44,520 --> 01:54:46,640
Speaker 2: enough reason for you to end up in the jail

2062
01:54:46,680 --> 01:54:50,840
Speaker 2: cell and dead. Just a good enough reason, you know.

2063
01:54:51,200 --> 01:54:56,760
Speaker 2: So for me personally, that's how I feel like, of

2064
01:54:56,880 --> 01:54:59,880
Speaker 2: the of all the things, I would never be okay

2065
01:55:00,160 --> 01:55:05,880
Speaker 2: somebody speaking down or or or just I mean, it's

2066
01:55:05,880 --> 01:55:07,400
Speaker 2: just bigger tree. Let's just put it what it is.

2067
01:55:07,560 --> 01:55:10,920
Speaker 2: It's not a nice word for telling somebody like, oh,

2068
01:55:11,000 --> 01:55:13,480
Speaker 2: you being oppressed because you made a choice. There's no

2069
01:55:13,600 --> 01:55:16,040
Speaker 2: right word, there's no good way to put that. I

2070
01:55:16,040 --> 01:55:19,600
Speaker 2: would never stand for that. But it's complicated, man, because

2071
01:55:19,600 --> 01:55:24,280
Speaker 2: it's nuanced to it. And yeah, it's not okay for

2072
01:55:24,400 --> 01:55:26,360
Speaker 2: her to say it, But I feel like, you don't

2073
01:55:27,800 --> 01:55:32,720
Speaker 2: not you don't I wouldn't compound it with basically fucked

2074
01:55:32,720 --> 01:55:36,480
Speaker 2: that bitch right back to her after the police take

2075
01:55:36,480 --> 01:55:38,200
Speaker 2: out your life, because then it's like, how can I

2076
01:55:38,280 --> 01:55:40,440
Speaker 2: claim to be about the unity that I'm seeking?

2077
01:55:41,040 --> 01:55:41,200
Speaker 1: Right?

2078
01:55:41,400 --> 01:55:43,760
Speaker 2: You know, Like I don't want to become it's and

2079
01:55:43,840 --> 01:55:46,640
Speaker 2: it's human, but I that's what I'm fighting against. I

2080
01:55:46,680 --> 01:55:49,720
Speaker 2: don't want to become that person. That's why I was

2081
01:55:49,800 --> 01:55:51,800
Speaker 2: glad that I cried, man, because I don't want to

2082
01:55:51,880 --> 01:55:54,520
Speaker 2: be the dude that doesn't cry because well fuck him,

2083
01:55:54,520 --> 01:55:56,440
Speaker 2: it was cops that got killed. What do I care?

2084
01:55:57,240 --> 01:55:58,960
Speaker 2: I don't want to be that dude that's that's not

2085
01:55:59,080 --> 01:56:02,520
Speaker 2: a good person for me. That's not a healthy place

2086
01:56:02,560 --> 01:56:05,720
Speaker 2: for me mentally. And I'll never give into that. I

2087
01:56:05,760 --> 01:56:07,760
Speaker 2: will fight it, you know till I die.

2088
01:56:07,880 --> 01:56:08,000
Speaker 1: Man.

2089
01:56:08,120 --> 01:56:10,680
Speaker 2: I don't want to lose that part of me, because

2090
01:56:10,720 --> 01:56:12,600
Speaker 2: if you're not fighting for the humanity, and what's the

2091
01:56:12,720 --> 01:56:15,200
Speaker 2: fucking point, you know what I mean? If I don't

2092
01:56:15,240 --> 01:56:16,560
Speaker 2: have the empathy, then what's the point?

2093
01:56:16,640 --> 01:56:16,800
Speaker 1: Man?

2094
01:56:17,760 --> 01:56:20,680
Speaker 2: So I don't want to give that up because life

2095
01:56:20,760 --> 01:56:23,800
Speaker 2: is so fucked up and unfair, you know. So, like, yes,

2096
01:56:24,000 --> 01:56:28,400
Speaker 2: even if the most like vile person I can think of,

2097
01:56:28,520 --> 01:56:31,800
Speaker 2: if Bill Cosey got killed by the fucking police. I

2098
01:56:31,840 --> 01:56:35,560
Speaker 2: would still be like, fuck, I don't fuck with that

2099
01:56:35,640 --> 01:56:38,720
Speaker 2: nigga on any level. It is not okay to police

2100
01:56:38,800 --> 01:56:42,320
Speaker 2: kill him. You know, I would still have to be like,

2101
01:56:42,480 --> 01:56:44,680
Speaker 2: he's one of the people in Black Lives Matter, that

2102
01:56:44,800 --> 01:56:47,880
Speaker 2: people we talk about, like you know what I'm saying,

2103
01:56:47,960 --> 01:56:51,360
Speaker 2: Like he's one of those people. It's like everyone's gonna

2104
01:56:51,400 --> 01:56:53,680
Speaker 2: have to find a way to make peace with the

2105
01:56:53,760 --> 01:56:57,040
Speaker 2: fact that when we talk about police victims, this motherfucker

2106
01:56:57,120 --> 01:57:00,360
Speaker 2: is on the list too. And the thing is, it

2107
01:57:00,560 --> 01:57:03,280
Speaker 2: didn't hit me until the day that No, everybody's not

2108
01:57:03,440 --> 01:57:06,080
Speaker 2: gonna do that. It is not the rule. That is

2109
01:57:06,280 --> 01:57:09,120
Speaker 2: not how that goes. Vast majority of people are gonna

2110
01:57:09,120 --> 01:57:11,520
Speaker 2: be like, fuck him. And if that's the case, then

2111
01:57:11,600 --> 01:57:14,520
Speaker 2: that goes for everybody. Like everybody can get it, like

2112
01:57:14,640 --> 01:57:18,320
Speaker 2: you can't pick and choose, like there's no rule that

2113
01:57:18,480 --> 01:57:20,440
Speaker 2: it is just you get killed by the cost. But

2114
01:57:20,520 --> 01:57:23,840
Speaker 2: I don't like you, fuck you. And that's but that's

2115
01:57:23,880 --> 01:57:26,080
Speaker 2: the thing, though, I don't get to legislate that for

2116
01:57:26,200 --> 01:57:26,960
Speaker 2: anybody else.

2117
01:57:27,440 --> 01:57:29,920
Speaker 1: That's true. That's true, and and and I guess the

2118
01:57:30,040 --> 01:57:32,040
Speaker 1: way I look at it, But then I'm not trying

2119
01:57:32,040 --> 01:57:34,480
Speaker 1: to be funny. And maybe this is me. Do all

2120
01:57:34,560 --> 01:57:37,200
Speaker 1: black lives matter or do they not? Because the thing is,

2121
01:57:37,280 --> 01:57:40,000
Speaker 1: we go, black lives matter, but that niggas don't black

2122
01:57:40,120 --> 01:57:42,880
Speaker 1: lives matter, but that bitches don't black lives matter? But

2123
01:57:42,960 --> 01:57:44,880
Speaker 1: this one don't. Do they matter? Do they not?

2124
01:57:45,080 --> 01:57:48,400
Speaker 2: And if it was so, if it was Bill Cosey,

2125
01:57:48,480 --> 01:57:51,480
Speaker 2: you would be like hashtag Bill Cosey, hashtag black lives matter.

2126
01:57:52,280 --> 01:57:53,840
Speaker 2: If he got killed, Yeah, yeah he got killed.

2127
01:57:54,360 --> 01:57:56,600
Speaker 1: I can still say fuck him. But he got wrong

2128
01:57:56,720 --> 01:57:57,080
Speaker 1: to kill?

2129
01:57:57,240 --> 01:57:59,960
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, to see. That's why I'm at with it too.

2130
01:58:00,280 --> 01:58:03,880
Speaker 2: But I don't think that we represent the majority of people.

2131
01:58:03,960 --> 01:58:05,520
Speaker 1: I don't, That's what I'm saying.

2132
01:58:05,560 --> 01:58:06,880
Speaker 2: But like I said, I may have had just a

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01:58:07,000 --> 01:58:10,040
Speaker 2: fundamental misunderstanding. Maybe people really feel like there's some sort

2134
01:58:10,040 --> 01:58:13,400
Speaker 2: of reverence given to these hashtags that I've never had.

2135
01:58:13,440 --> 01:58:15,600
Speaker 2: I've looked at every last one of them as human beings.

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01:58:16,040 --> 01:58:18,480
Speaker 2: Freddie Gray might have been walking around saying homophobics shit

2137
01:58:18,560 --> 01:58:21,600
Speaker 2: the second before he got killed. I don't know. It

2138
01:58:21,720 --> 01:58:24,120
Speaker 2: just shouldn't matter when it comes to police killing us,

2139
01:58:25,000 --> 01:58:27,800
Speaker 2: But yeah, it does matter, apparently to a lot of people.

2140
01:58:28,280 --> 01:58:34,080
Speaker 2: It just doesn't matter to me, you know, like like

2141
01:58:34,200 --> 01:58:39,360
Speaker 2: I said, it could be it would be a fucking

2142
01:58:39,680 --> 01:58:43,560
Speaker 2: I don't know, it could be uh, who else is

2143
01:58:43,920 --> 01:58:46,240
Speaker 2: Herman Kane. It could be Herman Kane. It never I mean,

2144
01:58:46,280 --> 01:58:47,760
Speaker 2: it probably never will be in these people, but you

2145
01:58:47,800 --> 01:58:49,080
Speaker 2: know what I mean, it could be Herman Kane and

2146
01:58:49,080 --> 01:58:51,920
Speaker 2: I'd be like, yeah, that dude was NTI black as fuck,

2147
01:58:53,120 --> 01:58:54,800
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, they killed him

2148
01:58:54,880 --> 01:58:58,720
Speaker 2: because he's a black man, and that is not okay,

2149
01:58:59,280 --> 01:58:59,920
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

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01:59:00,360 --> 01:59:03,440
Speaker 1: It's like I said, it's maybe it's just me being

2151
01:59:03,680 --> 01:59:07,480
Speaker 1: very simple with it, like like it's always been just

2152
01:59:07,680 --> 01:59:12,320
Speaker 1: that simple and that cut and dry to me. It's

2153
01:59:12,440 --> 01:59:17,040
Speaker 1: it's like it's you black, you die, and justly by

2154
01:59:17,200 --> 01:59:18,160
Speaker 1: a state.

2155
01:59:19,080 --> 01:59:23,680
Speaker 2: You know, execution basically, right, Okay, this is where we are.

2156
01:59:24,400 --> 01:59:27,880
Speaker 1: Okay, it's not fair, it's not right. Like you said,

2157
01:59:27,920 --> 01:59:30,480
Speaker 1: I didn't have reverences for these hashtags. I didn't get

2158
01:59:30,840 --> 01:59:33,000
Speaker 1: caught up in do I fuck with you? Do I

2159
01:59:33,120 --> 01:59:33,720
Speaker 1: not fuck with you?

2160
01:59:33,840 --> 01:59:34,560
Speaker 2: And all this stuff.

2161
01:59:34,600 --> 01:59:36,280
Speaker 1: It's like to me, like I said to me, when

2162
01:59:36,280 --> 01:59:38,840
Speaker 1: I hear black lives matter, I hear all black lives matter.

2163
01:59:39,080 --> 01:59:42,400
Speaker 1: I don't hear a division on if I fuck with you,

2164
01:59:42,480 --> 01:59:44,040
Speaker 1: if I don't fuck with you, if I like you,

2165
01:59:44,120 --> 01:59:45,600
Speaker 1: if you and my click, if you and my crew,

2166
01:59:45,640 --> 01:59:48,000
Speaker 1: if you and my gang. I don't see any of this.

2167
01:59:48,160 --> 01:59:50,880
Speaker 1: But obviously a lot of people they pick and choose

2168
01:59:50,920 --> 01:59:53,360
Speaker 1: whose black lives matter, whose black life don't.

2169
01:59:54,120 --> 01:59:59,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you was like, you know, don't don't bring

2170
01:59:59,840 --> 02:00:02,560
Speaker 2: up Cindra Blind, trying to force that down my throat.

2171
02:00:02,680 --> 02:00:05,720
Speaker 2: And like I said, I don't know what to tell people,

2172
02:00:05,720 --> 02:00:08,800
Speaker 2: because he's he's entitled to feel that way. I don't

2173
02:00:08,920 --> 02:00:11,440
Speaker 2: like people are very convinced, like people are going in

2174
02:00:11,640 --> 02:00:14,800
Speaker 2: on him, and I'm like, we are not going to

2175
02:00:14,880 --> 02:00:17,760
Speaker 2: have a uniformity of opinion. So I don't know, Like,

2176
02:00:18,360 --> 02:00:21,080
Speaker 2: he's not required to march, he's not required to hashtag,

2177
02:00:21,160 --> 02:00:23,120
Speaker 2: he's not required to he's not even required to give

2178
02:00:23,120 --> 02:00:26,880
Speaker 2: a fuck to be quite honest, true, So I don't know, Like,

2179
02:00:27,080 --> 02:00:31,200
Speaker 2: and if he's being critical and saying these people's deaths

2180
02:00:31,360 --> 02:00:37,200
Speaker 2: shouldn't be put on the on the movements websites and stuff, Okay,

2181
02:00:37,760 --> 02:00:40,480
Speaker 2: that's his feelings. It doesn't mean they're gonna change, right.

2182
02:00:40,720 --> 02:00:42,960
Speaker 2: None of these organizations are perfect, and none of them

2183
02:00:42,960 --> 02:00:45,840
Speaker 2: are going to reach a consensus on everything. None of

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02:00:45,880 --> 02:00:49,000
Speaker 2: these are uniform. There's you know, all these members of shit,

2185
02:00:49,200 --> 02:00:52,919
Speaker 2: you know, they're not gonna have agreement on everything.

2186
02:00:53,200 --> 02:00:53,360
Speaker 3: You know.

2187
02:00:53,480 --> 02:00:55,960
Speaker 2: That's the messy part of having an organization full of people,

2188
02:00:56,040 --> 02:00:59,440
Speaker 2: especially when they're all agitators and activists and shit, you're

2189
02:00:59,480 --> 02:01:04,200
Speaker 2: definitely not gonna all agree on everything. So I don't know, man,

2190
02:01:04,240 --> 02:01:08,000
Speaker 2: it was just an interesting point of view because, like

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02:01:08,080 --> 02:01:10,120
Speaker 2: I said, it was just new to me to think

2192
02:01:10,200 --> 02:01:11,960
Speaker 2: that way, because it's like, well, shit, if I thought

2193
02:01:12,000 --> 02:01:14,120
Speaker 2: of it that way, so a lot of motherfuckers, I

2194
02:01:14,120 --> 02:01:16,280
Speaker 2: wouldn't be talking about dying, like you know what I'm saying,

2195
02:01:16,280 --> 02:01:19,080
Speaker 2: because there's a lot of people that I'm sad they dead.

2196
02:01:19,280 --> 02:01:21,920
Speaker 2: But in real fucking life, I might be like, dog,

2197
02:01:22,040 --> 02:01:23,920
Speaker 2: what did you just say? No, we don't kick it.

2198
02:01:24,040 --> 02:01:26,280
Speaker 2: You just said some fucked up shit. You can't be

2199
02:01:26,400 --> 02:01:28,280
Speaker 2: on my Facebook page or my friend or any of

2200
02:01:28,360 --> 02:01:31,840
Speaker 2: this shit. But if the police killed that person, I'd

2201
02:01:31,840 --> 02:01:34,200
Speaker 2: be like, yeah, I'm sad that this person got killed

2202
02:01:35,000 --> 02:01:37,720
Speaker 2: because because it was wrong. The reason they got killed

2203
02:01:37,800 --> 02:01:41,160
Speaker 2: was wrong. But that's just what I thought it meant.

2204
02:01:41,240 --> 02:01:43,080
Speaker 2: But maybe that's not what it means, you know.

2205
02:01:43,320 --> 02:01:45,320
Speaker 1: Right, And it might be like I said, it's deeper

2206
02:01:45,640 --> 02:01:48,960
Speaker 1: than the surface because to me, a lot of this

2207
02:01:49,000 --> 02:01:51,400
Speaker 1: shit was just really simple and really couldn't dry. And

2208
02:01:51,520 --> 02:01:55,360
Speaker 1: also I think too, say it's generational. We're older, so

2209
02:01:55,560 --> 02:01:58,960
Speaker 1: I really do think we viewed this very very differently, right.

2210
02:01:59,640 --> 02:02:02,160
Speaker 2: So I don't know, man, I've heard people try to

2211
02:02:02,200 --> 02:02:04,840
Speaker 2: be like, well, I'm glad they killed like with Auton Sterling,

2212
02:02:04,880 --> 02:02:07,120
Speaker 2: I'm glad they kill the rapist if they gonna kill somebody.

2213
02:02:07,200 --> 02:02:10,600
Speaker 2: But it's like, yeah, but what about the point of

2214
02:02:12,600 --> 02:02:14,880
Speaker 2: like this bigger point that people are trying to make.

2215
02:02:15,000 --> 02:02:19,280
Speaker 2: But I have the privilege of saying something's a bigger point, right,

2216
02:02:20,200 --> 02:02:22,879
Speaker 2: you know, like because it didn't happen to me anyway.

2217
02:02:23,040 --> 02:02:26,760
Speaker 2: And I you know, and everybody wants to check their

2218
02:02:26,800 --> 02:02:29,839
Speaker 2: boxes off when it comes to these discussions, so everyone

2219
02:02:29,960 --> 02:02:33,880
Speaker 2: seeks for the facts quote unquote that are convenient for them,

2220
02:02:34,640 --> 02:02:37,600
Speaker 2: you know, like, hey, you know I heard it was

2221
02:02:37,640 --> 02:02:39,360
Speaker 2: this way, I heard it was that way. Well, hey,

2222
02:02:39,640 --> 02:02:41,640
Speaker 2: you know, what all I need to know is I

2223
02:02:41,680 --> 02:02:43,920
Speaker 2: don't have to stop talking about it, you know. So

2224
02:02:44,240 --> 02:02:47,480
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, It's just, you know, it's kind

2225
02:02:47,520 --> 02:02:49,640
Speaker 2: of an aimless conversation. I don't know where we're going

2226
02:02:49,720 --> 02:02:52,720
Speaker 2: with the guys, But you know, the point being I

2227
02:02:52,840 --> 02:02:54,880
Speaker 2: did want to talk about it because I mean, it's

2228
02:02:54,920 --> 02:02:56,520
Speaker 2: not like I came up with a resolution. While I

2229
02:02:56,560 --> 02:02:57,960
Speaker 2: was talking about it on Twitter, I was just kind

2230
02:02:58,000 --> 02:03:00,840
Speaker 2: of like, yeah, I mean, and if it's like that

2231
02:03:01,000 --> 02:03:03,040
Speaker 2: for people, then I understand why they don't talk about

2232
02:03:03,080 --> 02:03:05,480
Speaker 2: certain people dying and why they talk about others. Because

2233
02:03:05,560 --> 02:03:07,040
Speaker 2: once I saw people being like I wouldn't do it

2234
02:03:07,080 --> 02:03:09,520
Speaker 2: for Stacey Dash, I was like, okay, bingo, it is

2235
02:03:09,680 --> 02:03:12,000
Speaker 2: related to that on some level, you can't deny it.

2236
02:03:12,800 --> 02:03:15,080
Speaker 2: So if it is that way for some people, why

2237
02:03:15,120 --> 02:03:16,520
Speaker 2: wouldn't you be that way when it comes to a

2238
02:03:16,560 --> 02:03:21,320
Speaker 2: homophobic person? And who gets to tell that person? Nah,

2239
02:03:21,400 --> 02:03:22,920
Speaker 2: you got to do it. Nah, you don't got to

2240
02:03:23,000 --> 02:03:25,200
Speaker 2: do shit. You know a lot of people came down

2241
02:03:25,240 --> 02:03:29,120
Speaker 2: on that person, but that you know, that's just their line.

2242
02:03:29,200 --> 02:03:31,240
Speaker 2: Their line is different than your line. Your line might

2243
02:03:31,320 --> 02:03:33,920
Speaker 2: be like up to rape, I don't know, you know

2244
02:03:34,000 --> 02:03:36,600
Speaker 2: what I mean. I don't know, Like, well, okay, statutory

2245
02:03:36,680 --> 02:03:40,400
Speaker 2: rate cool, but like physically it's alving somebody. That's when

2246
02:03:40,400 --> 02:03:43,720
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna you know, or Bill Cozi sixty rapes,

2247
02:03:43,760 --> 02:03:45,640
Speaker 2: that's when I'm doing you know, I don't know what

2248
02:03:45,760 --> 02:03:49,720
Speaker 2: everybody's line is you know, h you murdered somebody in

2249
02:03:49,760 --> 02:03:52,840
Speaker 2: the past. For me, No, for somebody else, It's like,

2250
02:03:52,880 --> 02:03:55,240
Speaker 2: what does that matter? You know, I've been at that.

2251
02:03:55,400 --> 02:03:58,680
Speaker 2: What does that matter for everybody? But you know, either

2252
02:03:58,760 --> 02:04:01,080
Speaker 2: I haven't found my line or I don't have a line.

2253
02:04:01,120 --> 02:04:02,880
Speaker 2: I'm trying my best to not even have one.

2254
02:04:03,440 --> 02:04:06,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and I hope I never have one, because

2255
02:04:06,560 --> 02:04:10,840
Speaker 1: Lord knows, if it's me, you know, I've done things

2256
02:04:10,880 --> 02:04:12,520
Speaker 1: in the past. You know, it's just one of those

2257
02:04:12,560 --> 02:04:15,480
Speaker 1: things where, like you say, everybody can go back and scrutinize,

2258
02:04:15,520 --> 02:04:17,680
Speaker 1: but I don't, like, you know, people to watch porn.

2259
02:04:17,720 --> 02:04:19,640
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, somebody protests and fucked that bitch

2260
02:04:19,640 --> 02:04:21,160
Speaker 1: because she watched porn. You know.

2261
02:04:21,400 --> 02:04:24,560
Speaker 2: Where where are these lines? Yeah, but that's kind of

2262
02:04:24,600 --> 02:04:27,720
Speaker 2: the Internet. We now hear everyone's opinions, and for better

2263
02:04:27,800 --> 02:04:30,040
Speaker 2: or worse, there's gotta be that one person speaking up.

2264
02:04:30,040 --> 02:04:31,360
Speaker 2: There's gotta be a bunch of people to feel that

2265
02:04:31,400 --> 02:04:36,400
Speaker 2: way true, you know. So yeah, now we we've kind

2266
02:04:36,400 --> 02:04:40,200
Speaker 2: of reached that point. So you know, it's gonna happen

2267
02:04:40,280 --> 02:04:42,760
Speaker 2: with all the all these people are assulming. You know,

2268
02:04:42,880 --> 02:04:44,640
Speaker 2: before it was just white people going through there like,

2269
02:04:44,680 --> 02:04:46,600
Speaker 2: look at this Facebook photo and look at this thing

2270
02:04:46,680 --> 02:04:49,280
Speaker 2: he said. But yeah, there's gonna be people like yo,

2271
02:04:49,440 --> 02:04:53,680
Speaker 2: Trayvon Martin was a homophobic teenager as well, so you know,

2272
02:04:54,200 --> 02:04:56,160
Speaker 2: and then there's gonna always be somebody on Twitter that

2273
02:04:56,560 --> 02:04:59,200
Speaker 2: is gonna say the controversial shit and get their attention

2274
02:04:59,320 --> 02:05:02,760
Speaker 2: to So all right, let's try to end on some

2275
02:05:02,880 --> 02:05:04,400
Speaker 2: fun shit and play some guests the race.

2276
02:05:05,640 --> 02:05:10,000
Speaker 3: Now, that is time for some guests the race. That's right,

2277
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Speaker 3: it's guess the race time. Now, that is time for

2278
02:05:14,920 --> 02:05:19,400
Speaker 3: some guests the race. That's right, it's guess the race time.

2279
02:05:21,360 --> 02:05:24,560
Speaker 2: That's right, it's time for guests. The race. The number

2280
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Speaker 2: one game show going across all the podcasts, and we

2281
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Speaker 2: read a play news articles from all over the globe.

2282
02:05:28,160 --> 02:05:31,040
Speaker 2: But yes, our contestants today the chat room. Two guests

2283
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Speaker 2: the right saying the chat room is a race is

2284
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Speaker 2: all right? Story number No. Fifty one year old misshopping

2285
02:05:42,040 --> 02:05:45,760
Speaker 2: woman is jailed on assault charges at the allegedly point

2286
02:05:45,760 --> 02:05:48,880
Speaker 2: of a gas nozzle at a driver spreading her with gasoline.

2287
02:05:49,240 --> 02:05:54,440
Speaker 2: Oh Kimberly A Brinton of Rattlesnake Hill Road, was arranged

2288
02:05:54,560 --> 02:06:00,440
Speaker 2: Monday evening before Magisterial District Judge David Plumber and TONK. Hannock.

2289
02:06:01,920 --> 02:06:05,720
Speaker 2: In addition to aggravated assault, she faces charges of terroristic

2290
02:06:05,800 --> 02:06:09,360
Speaker 2: threats and recklessly endangered another person in simple assault. According

2291
02:06:09,400 --> 02:06:12,960
Speaker 2: to the criminal complaint, miss Sharpon police chief John Kreig

2292
02:06:13,600 --> 02:06:16,480
Speaker 2: said he was called around five forty five pm Thursday

2293
02:06:16,520 --> 02:06:20,680
Speaker 2: afternoon to the Mihooponee Dandy Mart where two women had

2294
02:06:20,720 --> 02:06:24,120
Speaker 2: been pumping gas too. He called the call note that

2295
02:06:24,200 --> 02:06:26,680
Speaker 2: one of them may have broken her arm.

2296
02:06:27,120 --> 02:06:27,640
Speaker 1: Oh shit.

2297
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Speaker 2: Her name was Tammy Donovan. When she arrived at the scene,

2298
02:06:31,360 --> 02:06:33,440
Speaker 2: Donovan said she was pumping gas and saw that another

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02:06:33,520 --> 02:06:36,560
Speaker 2: driver let identified as Brenton, was smoking a cigarette. Donovan

2300
02:06:36,640 --> 02:06:38,400
Speaker 2: said she couldn't believe that what she was seeing and

2301
02:06:38,480 --> 02:06:40,960
Speaker 2: told Brenton to put the cigarette out, but she refused

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02:06:41,000 --> 02:06:43,680
Speaker 2: and argument broke out and Donovan and is alleged to

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02:06:43,800 --> 02:06:47,440
Speaker 2: have thrown windshield, washed her cleaner with water toward the

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02:06:47,480 --> 02:06:51,520
Speaker 2: cigarette to put it out. Donovan got in her car

2305
02:06:51,600 --> 02:06:54,400
Speaker 2: to leave, So what, you ain't need the gas no more?

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02:06:55,960 --> 02:06:58,400
Speaker 2: But Brenton started screaming at Donovan that she was going

2307
02:06:58,480 --> 02:07:00,520
Speaker 2: to cover her in gas and light her ass on fire.

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02:07:01,040 --> 02:07:04,560
Speaker 2: As Donovan sat in the car, Brenton sprayed her on

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02:07:04,640 --> 02:07:07,880
Speaker 2: two occasions of gasoline from the gas According to the complaint,

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02:07:07,960 --> 02:07:10,360
Speaker 2: Donovan told Creed she got out of her car to

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Speaker 2: tell the service station close to call NOW one one,

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02:07:12,400 --> 02:07:14,440
Speaker 2: but slipped on the spell gas and broke her arm.

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02:07:16,360 --> 02:07:19,040
Speaker 2: Creig said that Brenton was not on the scene when

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02:07:19,080 --> 02:07:21,760
Speaker 2: he arrived to investigate, but he positively identified her from

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02:07:21,760 --> 02:07:24,720
Speaker 2: the video camera footage made available to him. At her arraignment,

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02:07:24,840 --> 02:07:27,839
Speaker 2: Plumber told Brenton that she was innocent into approven guilty,

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02:07:28,240 --> 02:07:30,560
Speaker 2: but for now he was going to take her or

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02:07:30,960 --> 02:07:33,680
Speaker 2: take on face value that what was talled in the

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02:07:33,720 --> 02:07:37,120
Speaker 2: police affidavit from Creed. If it's true, it's very scary stuff.

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Speaker 2: Plumber said she's being held in jail for public safety

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Speaker 2: concerns on a bell of two hundred and fifty thousand dollars.

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02:07:45,760 --> 02:07:48,480
Speaker 2: She couldn't post bell, so she was remanded at the

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02:07:48,520 --> 02:07:51,360
Speaker 2: Woman County Jail. Her preliminary here will be set for

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Speaker 2: July to twelfth. Guest the Race of Miss Kimberly a

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Speaker 2: Brenton chat room. See what they believe? Let's see? Uh

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Speaker 2: where is your did you ask? Oh? Yeah, nobody. Black

2327
02:08:04,960 --> 02:08:09,000
Speaker 2: lives on Rattlesnakehill road. White, innocent, he all proven guilty.

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02:08:09,160 --> 02:08:12,680
Speaker 2: Not that not that is some white shiit honky fit.

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02:08:12,760 --> 02:08:17,240
Speaker 2: The description black says Brient says live. Joe's face says

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02:08:17,280 --> 02:08:20,840
Speaker 2: white girls play too much, Becky with the good fire white?

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02:08:22,200 --> 02:08:40,840
Speaker 2: Correct is white? One person got it wrong. And if

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02:08:40,840 --> 02:08:42,880
Speaker 2: you guys want to see a picture, let me put

2333
02:08:42,920 --> 02:08:44,920
Speaker 2: her on the screen so you guys can check her out.

2334
02:08:46,280 --> 02:08:47,800
Speaker 2: But this is the face of a woman that will

2335
02:08:47,880 --> 02:08:57,480
Speaker 2: burn your ass up. Oh so big? Why she's smiling

2336
02:08:57,600 --> 02:09:01,760
Speaker 2: so fucking hard? Oh what you do it again?

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02:09:01,800 --> 02:09:02,400
Speaker 1: Because I think it.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, didn't people not get to see it? Oh okay,

2339
02:09:06,320 --> 02:09:09,600
Speaker 2: I thought sometime? All right, Well you let me know

2340
02:09:09,640 --> 02:09:10,160
Speaker 2: when they see it.

2341
02:09:10,240 --> 02:09:10,400
Speaker 3: Man.

2342
02:09:11,720 --> 02:09:14,120
Speaker 2: Oh but yeah, that's that. Look at her face, y'all.

2343
02:09:14,240 --> 02:09:20,400
Speaker 2: She is just super like, yeah, look at me, dog bitches.

2344
02:09:22,120 --> 02:09:29,160
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Oh wow, that's a pretty pretty sad,

2345
02:09:29,280 --> 02:09:34,640
Speaker 2: scary ship. I guess you could say she was gassed up.

2346
02:09:43,000 --> 02:09:51,640
Speaker 2: Ah mm hmm. That's terrible. You think she was petrofoed?

2347
02:09:58,640 --> 02:10:03,920
Speaker 2: Oh all right, I'm running out of field on all right,

2348
02:10:04,440 --> 02:10:04,840
Speaker 2: all right?

2349
02:10:06,560 --> 02:10:07,840
Speaker 1: You think she was a little burnt out?

2350
02:10:08,360 --> 02:10:14,520
Speaker 2: Mmmm? I don't mm hmmm. I don't know if these

2351
02:10:14,600 --> 02:10:21,520
Speaker 2: jokes are regular unletted they might be super mm hmmm

2352
02:10:21,920 --> 02:10:26,680
Speaker 2: a premium. Uh you think she went inside like, can

2353
02:10:26,760 --> 02:10:33,080
Speaker 2: I get ten dollars on this bitch? This bitch, let

2354
02:10:33,120 --> 02:10:36,840
Speaker 2: me get fired dollars on on on this hussy. Real

2355
02:10:36,960 --> 02:10:45,480
Speaker 2: quick pump yeah on pump three? All right, Uh, bonus round.

2356
02:10:45,480 --> 02:10:47,120
Speaker 2: I mean, let's go to the bonus round. We've been

2357
02:10:47,280 --> 02:10:48,080
Speaker 2: this is a long show.

2358
02:10:50,240 --> 02:10:51,000
Speaker 1: We're playing again.

2359
02:10:57,720 --> 02:11:03,440
Speaker 2: Double up all and race that was a fall saying

2360
02:11:03,520 --> 02:11:06,840
Speaker 2: the race. That's right, double the points, double the race,

2361
02:11:06,880 --> 02:11:09,720
Speaker 2: and the bomus frond to guess the race. So far

2362
02:11:10,640 --> 02:11:15,080
Speaker 2: we are one of one except everybody believed. So we'll

2363
02:11:15,160 --> 02:11:19,880
Speaker 2: see if she can win this round. She's the only

2364
02:11:20,000 --> 02:11:21,320
Speaker 2: one not in first.

2365
02:11:22,760 --> 02:11:23,600
Speaker 1: The first to last.

2366
02:11:24,920 --> 02:11:27,160
Speaker 2: A New York woman twenty three years old is charge

2367
02:11:27,200 --> 02:11:30,800
Speaker 2: of fatally poisoning her sixty year old chiropractice boss before

2368
02:11:30,920 --> 02:11:36,560
Speaker 2: remembering her in Facebook posts after she died. So she

2369
02:11:36,760 --> 02:11:39,520
Speaker 2: killed her and then went on Facebook like, oh my boss,

2370
02:11:40,560 --> 02:11:43,840
Speaker 2: you were her greatest I will miss you. Oh I know,

2371
02:11:44,080 --> 02:11:47,680
Speaker 2: there's some snapshit for real. A New York woman has

2372
02:11:47,760 --> 02:11:51,000
Speaker 2: been charged with fatally poisoning a chiropractor who had employed her.

2373
02:11:51,680 --> 02:11:54,320
Speaker 1: Kate shit, I like the chiropractice. What she didn't pop

2374
02:11:54,400 --> 02:11:56,400
Speaker 1: your back ride? What's happening all right?

2375
02:11:56,840 --> 02:12:00,040
Speaker 2: I guess her spine was out of alignment. Kate and

2376
02:12:00,240 --> 02:12:03,520
Speaker 2: Conley is charged with second degree murdering in the killing

2377
02:12:03,560 --> 02:12:07,200
Speaker 2: of sixty year old Mary Yoder of Oneida County. Sheriff

2378
02:12:07,760 --> 02:12:12,680
Speaker 2: Robert McCaul said, Okay. Yoda died on July twenty second,

2379
02:12:12,720 --> 02:12:15,280
Speaker 2: twenty fifteen, but a concerned relative contact of the police

2380
02:12:15,320 --> 02:12:18,440
Speaker 2: in October believe Yoda's death was suspicious. The day after

2381
02:12:18,520 --> 02:12:23,440
Speaker 2: Yoda's death kindly paid tribute to her on Facebook. Medical

2382
02:12:23,520 --> 02:12:26,600
Speaker 2: Examiner's office rule Yoda's death was a homicide caused by

2383
02:12:27,040 --> 02:12:32,040
Speaker 2: culture coachre ching what culture scene coachure scene? An anti

2384
02:12:32,120 --> 02:12:35,480
Speaker 2: inflammatory drug used to treat gout. A motor for the

2385
02:12:35,520 --> 02:12:39,360
Speaker 2: poisoning wasn't released. Conley wrote in July twenty third, twenty fifteen,

2386
02:12:39,920 --> 02:12:42,520
Speaker 2: Doctor Mary, I still can't believe you're gone. Yesterday was

2387
02:12:42,600 --> 02:12:45,520
Speaker 2: so sudden. You truly were a positive light in the world,

2388
02:12:45,600 --> 02:12:49,040
Speaker 2: and I'm so lucky and thankful for our lives cross paths.

2389
02:12:50,040 --> 02:12:52,000
Speaker 2: There wasn't a day I didn't look forward to work

2390
02:12:52,040 --> 02:12:54,520
Speaker 2: with you. You taught me so much and had such

2391
02:12:54,520 --> 02:12:57,800
Speaker 2: a profound impact on my life. Everyone appreciated your attention,

2392
02:12:58,000 --> 02:13:00,480
Speaker 2: stories and laughter. We will remember you and your light,

2393
02:13:01,240 --> 02:13:04,000
Speaker 2: energy and strength. And the best way I can think

2394
02:13:04,040 --> 02:13:06,200
Speaker 2: the honor of your life is to emulate your genuine,

2395
02:13:06,320 --> 02:13:10,400
Speaker 2: cheerful and coinspirit. See that's when she ever played her hand,

2396
02:13:11,280 --> 02:13:14,960
Speaker 2: because I guarantee she had told everybody how much she

2397
02:13:15,080 --> 02:13:18,080
Speaker 2: hated that woman every day of her life. Real rich

2398
02:13:18,240 --> 02:13:23,040
Speaker 2: flags that pitch. Guess she did today? You know, I

2399
02:13:23,160 --> 02:13:25,600
Speaker 2: hate how she talks to me. God, Oh she the

2400
02:13:25,720 --> 02:13:29,240
Speaker 2: worst my boss. Ah fuck her? Oh her genuine light,

2401
02:13:31,840 --> 02:13:36,320
Speaker 2: the rainbows of pony love that you displayed to me.

2402
02:13:39,640 --> 02:13:45,879
Speaker 2: You were truly a care bear and a smurf, Theonida

2403
02:13:45,960 --> 02:13:49,360
Speaker 2: County Sheriffs Office said Tuesday. Caitlyn Connie was an employee

2404
02:13:49,360 --> 02:13:52,440
Speaker 2: of doctor William and Mary Yoda, who owned and operated

2405
02:13:52,480 --> 02:13:55,520
Speaker 2: the Chiropractor Family Care located on this street I don't

2406
02:13:55,520 --> 02:13:58,080
Speaker 2: care about in New York. Conley was employed there at

2407
02:13:58,120 --> 02:14:02,600
Speaker 2: the time of doctor Mary's death. Conley, twenty three, is

2408
02:14:02,640 --> 02:14:04,960
Speaker 2: being held in County jail. Twenty three. You decided to

2409
02:14:05,000 --> 02:14:07,720
Speaker 2: kill somebody. What have you guys done with your lives?

2410
02:14:09,240 --> 02:14:11,280
Speaker 2: She's wanting to accomplish more twenty three than most of

2411
02:14:11,360 --> 02:14:12,400
Speaker 2: y'all have ever accomplished.

2412
02:14:13,720 --> 02:14:13,840
Speaker 1: Uh.

2413
02:14:15,600 --> 02:14:17,960
Speaker 2: The Sheriff's office said that Colie was charged with one

2414
02:14:18,000 --> 02:14:20,480
Speaker 2: count of second degree forgery, two council first degree foster,

2415
02:14:20,560 --> 02:14:23,800
Speaker 2: five business records, and two counts of petty larceny. So

2416
02:14:23,880 --> 02:14:27,920
Speaker 2: she was stealing. Okay, the plot dickens, do you think they.

2417
02:14:27,920 --> 02:14:30,160
Speaker 1: Was like how she got from gout medicine and she

2418
02:14:30,200 --> 02:14:32,920
Speaker 1: ain't got no gout right. Uh.

2419
02:14:33,040 --> 02:14:36,120
Speaker 2: The twenty three year graduated last month from the State

2420
02:14:36,240 --> 02:14:38,080
Speaker 2: University of New York Polytechnic.

2421
02:14:38,360 --> 02:14:38,520
Speaker 1: Oh.

2422
02:14:38,960 --> 02:14:39,600
Speaker 2: Man, that's sad.

2423
02:14:39,720 --> 02:14:43,480
Speaker 1: She's staying at home with a mama. You know, you're

2424
02:14:43,600 --> 02:14:45,640
Speaker 1: Martha Stewart's concerned she was worthless anyway.

2425
02:14:47,080 --> 02:14:52,760
Speaker 2: You know, maybe maybe she was right. Maybe Martha Stewart

2426
02:14:52,840 --> 02:14:55,480
Speaker 2: had a point. You Millennias, living with your parents, killing

2427
02:14:55,520 --> 02:14:57,640
Speaker 2: your bosses, there's no way to do it if you're

2428
02:14:57,640 --> 02:15:01,320
Speaker 2: gonna commit a crime, commit wire fraud or uh some

2429
02:15:01,520 --> 02:15:07,120
Speaker 2: type of yeah, some type of white collar shit. So yeah,

2430
02:15:07,920 --> 02:15:14,200
Speaker 2: apparently she's in some hot hot water for this. I

2431
02:15:14,320 --> 02:15:18,040
Speaker 2: guess the race of Katie Conley boss killer she committed

2432
02:15:18,080 --> 02:15:25,320
Speaker 2: boss aside the name Rick Cross album, Uh, that bitch

2433
02:15:25,360 --> 02:15:30,120
Speaker 2: from work White memorialized someone you murdered, like a step

2434
02:15:30,200 --> 02:15:32,600
Speaker 2: away from I didn't know. I couldn't do that. White

2435
02:15:33,240 --> 02:15:35,600
Speaker 2: still had to nerve the tight all lives matter to

2436
02:15:35,680 --> 02:15:39,640
Speaker 2: her black friends. We'll feel right at home on Girls.

2437
02:15:40,960 --> 02:15:43,680
Speaker 2: Never missed an episode of Friends White and snapped the white.

2438
02:15:44,680 --> 02:15:56,840
Speaker 2: The correct answer is white. And let me show you,

2439
02:15:56,920 --> 02:16:00,240
Speaker 2: guys exactly what she uh, what she looked like, what

2440
02:16:00,360 --> 02:16:04,879
Speaker 2: her boss look like as well. So this is Katie

2441
02:16:05,440 --> 02:16:10,880
Speaker 2: right here, Katie Conley, one all glammed up, probably on

2442
02:16:10,960 --> 02:16:13,960
Speaker 2: the way to the funeral, and the other one probably

2443
02:16:14,000 --> 02:16:20,360
Speaker 2: her mugshot. And then this one is her boss that

2444
02:16:21,000 --> 02:16:27,800
Speaker 2: she killed by poisoning. All right, have you get your

2445
02:16:27,840 --> 02:16:30,320
Speaker 2: hands on galp? How do you even know that? Like,

2446
02:16:30,720 --> 02:16:32,560
Speaker 2: by the way, this is why I snapped is so

2447
02:16:32,680 --> 02:16:36,760
Speaker 2: much better than uh stories about me and killing women,

2448
02:16:36,800 --> 02:16:41,280
Speaker 2: which Botliff were being real show. A TV show dedicated

2449
02:16:41,280 --> 02:16:43,520
Speaker 2: to how me and killed women would be very short

2450
02:16:43,720 --> 02:16:45,880
Speaker 2: and they would be infinite episodes because they do it

2451
02:16:46,000 --> 02:16:50,440
Speaker 2: every goddamn day. But Snap is so much a better

2452
02:16:50,480 --> 02:16:52,920
Speaker 2: show because it really takes an hour to break down

2453
02:16:53,000 --> 02:16:55,680
Speaker 2: why and how women killed. It's not because women have.

2454
02:16:55,720 --> 02:17:00,200
Speaker 1: To plot sometimes, I think dudes to forget that's one

2455
02:17:00,200 --> 02:17:02,320
Speaker 1: of those things where, hey, we know a lot of

2456
02:17:02,400 --> 02:17:06,600
Speaker 1: times we can't out physical like you, so we can't

2457
02:17:06,720 --> 02:17:09,160
Speaker 1: just grab and choke your ass to death, but we'll

2458
02:17:09,280 --> 02:17:10,800
Speaker 1: have we have to do other shit.

2459
02:17:11,120 --> 02:17:12,760
Speaker 2: It's never gonna be simple, is what I'm saying.

2460
02:17:13,200 --> 02:17:15,560
Speaker 1: It's gonna be planned, it's gonna be laid out.

2461
02:17:16,600 --> 02:17:19,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's never gonna be simple. It's always gonna have

2462
02:17:19,959 --> 02:17:22,920
Speaker 2: a map. Yeah, it's always gonna be like, you know,

2463
02:17:23,760 --> 02:17:27,240
Speaker 2: gap medicine could kill somebody. How did you know that?

2464
02:17:28,360 --> 02:17:30,080
Speaker 2: I don't even I couldn't even find it on Google

2465
02:17:30,120 --> 02:17:32,880
Speaker 2: if I wanted to. I feel like women that get

2466
02:17:32,959 --> 02:17:34,640
Speaker 2: ready to kill they man, you could tell guys, because

2467
02:17:34,640 --> 02:17:38,440
Speaker 2: they start DV on a whole lot of snapped. Like,

2468
02:17:38,520 --> 02:17:40,080
Speaker 2: so that's what that bitch went wrong. Because if you

2469
02:17:40,120 --> 02:17:43,160
Speaker 2: see snapped and you see the plots, you know that

2470
02:17:43,320 --> 02:17:45,680
Speaker 2: that means that are women that have just gotten away

2471
02:17:45,720 --> 02:17:47,800
Speaker 2: with it because some of the ways they catch them

2472
02:17:47,840 --> 02:17:48,680
Speaker 2: are so wired.

2473
02:17:48,760 --> 02:17:48,920
Speaker 3: Thing.

2474
02:17:49,000 --> 02:17:52,160
Speaker 2: It's just like, and then she happened to make a

2475
02:17:52,280 --> 02:17:56,560
Speaker 2: phone call on her way to bury the body, You're like, oh, wow,

2476
02:17:57,360 --> 02:18:00,200
Speaker 2: she would have got away from with it, right, the

2477
02:18:00,320 --> 02:18:03,280
Speaker 2: dude she was fucking had a crisis of conscience. Because

2478
02:18:03,320 --> 02:18:06,200
Speaker 2: men ain't shit. Oh that's how they got her. That's

2479
02:18:06,240 --> 02:18:08,640
Speaker 2: how they got her like you got would have got

2480
02:18:08,680 --> 02:18:11,440
Speaker 2: the insurance money and everything, and you went to jail

2481
02:18:11,560 --> 02:18:39,959
Speaker 2: because some arbitrary bullshit. It's scary man. Anyway. A Shelby

2482
02:18:40,080 --> 02:18:44,640
Speaker 2: Township man has been charged at the police find sword

2483
02:18:44,879 --> 02:18:45,600
Speaker 2: and daggers.

2484
02:18:46,760 --> 02:18:49,720
Speaker 1: Shit, what is this a comic book?

2485
02:18:50,400 --> 02:18:54,720
Speaker 2: I guess the race y'all white, a twenty four year

2486
02:18:54,720 --> 02:18:56,920
Speaker 2: old man, was arrested Monday at Bloomfield Hills after the

2487
02:18:56,920 --> 02:18:59,200
Speaker 2: police found a collection of knives and bladed weapons in

2488
02:18:59,280 --> 02:19:03,520
Speaker 2: his car. Corey Gasmano was stopped by stopped for erratic

2489
02:19:03,959 --> 02:19:07,760
Speaker 2: driving just at the two am. Police said search of

2490
02:19:07,840 --> 02:19:12,480
Speaker 2: his car turned up twenty eight cutting implements, mostly were

2491
02:19:12,800 --> 02:19:16,240
Speaker 2: illegal weapons. Most of them were illegal, so I didn't

2492
02:19:16,360 --> 02:19:19,600
Speaker 2: know some of these were already illegal. We're not enforcing

2493
02:19:19,640 --> 02:19:23,120
Speaker 2: this obviously. The womens were described by police as a sword, daggers,

2494
02:19:23,160 --> 02:19:26,680
Speaker 2: throwing knives, throwing stars, double edge blaze and folding knives.

2495
02:19:27,800 --> 02:19:29,840
Speaker 2: He was on his way to Killer Roe tomorrow.

2496
02:19:29,879 --> 02:19:36,920
Speaker 1: But somebody was doing and the wind village and stopped him.

2497
02:19:37,040 --> 02:19:40,440
Speaker 2: He couldn't he couldn't do the sexy juicu so he

2498
02:19:40,600 --> 02:19:43,720
Speaker 2: was in trouble. Guys. Police said they were all within

2499
02:19:43,840 --> 02:19:45,800
Speaker 2: reach of the driver. Gus Mino was charged with the

2500
02:19:45,840 --> 02:19:48,880
Speaker 2: felony can canceled weapon charge. It was at least on

2501
02:19:49,080 --> 02:19:50,760
Speaker 2: bond because of course, we need to put him back

2502
02:19:50,760 --> 02:19:55,120
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