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Speaker 1: him back. His name is Ezra Levant. He's the publisher

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Speaker 1: of Rebel News. Rebel News was recently at the World

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Speaker 1: Economic Forum, really sticking it to a lot of the people,

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Speaker 1: surrounded stopping Donald Trump and quote unquote disinformation and misinformation.

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Speaker 1: So what does that mean for the twenty twenty four election?

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Speaker 1: Will we see medaling? We'll talk to him about that.

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Speaker 1: We'll also talk to him about the trucker rebellion that

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Speaker 1: we saw during COVID. A Canadian judge recently ruled that

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Speaker 1: Trudeau's use of the Emergencies Act, which was used to

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Speaker 1: does that mean. We'll get his take on that. Also,

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Speaker 1: did you know that Ezra was prosecuted for publishing a

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Speaker 1: book about Justin Trudeau? Prosecuted for publishing a book? What

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Speaker 1: Trust me when I tell you this is a truly

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Speaker 1: fascinating and interesting and enlightening conversation with Ezra Levant, publisher

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Speaker 1: of Rebel News. Stay tuned. Hi, as Rat, it's great

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Speaker 1: to have you back on this show. The last episode

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Speaker 1: both my producer and myself. So glad to have you

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Speaker 1: back on. Really appreciate you making the time.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's a pleasure.

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Speaker 1: Well, so, you guys, I was watching your coverage of

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Speaker 1: of it all. For this year, what stood out for you.

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Speaker 2: Well, there were two names on the lips of every

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Speaker 2: World Economic Form delegate. The two greatest enemies to their

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Speaker 1: So basically they just hate freedom.

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Speaker 2: They believe in something different. They use words like stakeholder democracy.

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Speaker 2: injunction and they stopped hugging their horns, and there were

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Speaker 2: some parking violations and that's it. Trying actually decreased in

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Speaker 2: downtown Ottawa because he had all these you know, public

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Speaker 2: spirited people there. So Trudeau invoked martial law because he

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Speaker 2: was embarrassed, and so he seized the bank accounts of

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Speaker 2: truckers without a legal process. She just seized it. And

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Speaker 2: by the way, a lot of people have a joint

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Speaker 2: bank account with their wife or their husband, and so

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, three hundreds of families couldn't access

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Speaker 2: their bank account for groceries or ranted. They threw people

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Speaker 2: in jail. A friend of mine, tore Mary Leach, was

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Speaker 2: put in jail for forty nine days for they said

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Speaker 2: she was guilty of quote mischief because she was supporting

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Speaker 2: the truckers. They had riot horses come out and stomp

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Speaker 2: on people, and the judge ruled that it's been two years,

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Speaker 2: so justice came slow. But a judge said all of

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Speaker 2: this was done illegally because if you read the Emergencies Act,

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Speaker 2: it can only be used in extremely serious cases like

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Speaker 2: a revolution, like a war, or an invasion like see

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Speaker 2: things of that grab and the Emergencies that specifically says

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Speaker 2: you can only use martial law if your other laws

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Speaker 2: don't handle it, if you can't solve the problem with

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Speaker 2: other laws. But of course these truckers could be handled

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Speaker 2: by regular police. They were, there was no need for it.

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Speaker 2: So number one, martial law was invoked illegally, and number two,

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Speaker 2: the judge says, even when you invoke martial law, do

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Speaker 2: you have to respect civil liberties in what we call

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Speaker 2: our charter of right. It's like your Bill of rights.

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Speaker 2: And the judge went through the crazy things Trudeau did,

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Speaker 2: like seizing families bank accounts, and said that absolutely was

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Speaker 2: a violation of right. So it was pretty incredible that

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Speaker 2: Trudeau always said the truckers were the lawbreakers, but now

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Speaker 2: a judge finally has ruled that no, the truckers were flying.

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Speaker 2: It was Trudeau and his marshal law that was it legal.

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Speaker 2: So it's an incredible vindication of the truckers and an

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Speaker 2: incredible condemnation of Trudeau and his authoritarian woundstakes.

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Speaker 1: And you look at some of the leaders of the

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Speaker 1: you mentioned Tamara Leeds and Chris Barber, I believe they're

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Speaker 1: still facing trial rights. What's the leadst with that? The

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Speaker 1: what are they being you know, what are they having

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Speaker 1: to face trial for?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know what. I know those people, and

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Speaker 2: I know tamar Leitch very well. We published her autobiography

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Speaker 2: and we're crowdfunding her legal defense. And like I say,

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Speaker 2: she's charged with some extremely minor things like inciting mischief.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that's called something different in the States,

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Speaker 2: but here in Canada, mischief is like a catch all

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Speaker 2: for like vandalism or like the lowest prime imaginable. It's

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Speaker 2: the kind of thing where a judge usually says, I

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Speaker 2: don't want to see you back in here, young man.

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Speaker 2: Now you fly straight, Like mischief is the lowest because

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Speaker 2: what did she do. She didn't do anything, and he

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Speaker 2: was jailed for forty nine days before trial, and what

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Speaker 2: should be what would normally be like a two hour

483
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Speaker 2: trial is now coming up on a year like dozens

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Speaker 2: and dozens and dozens of I went to her trial

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Speaker 2: for a bed And it's basically the government is using

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Speaker 2: the process as the punishment, dragging it out as long

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Speaker 2: as possible, to inflict as much stress and hassle and

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Speaker 2: cost on too marri Leach as possible. And we're crowdfunding

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Speaker 2: her legal defense. I don't want to tell you how

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Speaker 2: much you've spent so far, but imagine, you know, three

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Speaker 2: defense lawyers for almost a full year. You can guess

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Speaker 2: how expensive that it is. They're trying to kill her.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I hope you don't mind me saying

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Speaker 2: that people want to help Tamara, they can go to

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Speaker 2: help Tamara dot com. Because we're fighting attempt the government here.

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Speaker 2: It's sort of like the Jay the January sixth battle

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Speaker 2: in the States. Justin Trudeau said that when the truckers

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Speaker 2: came to Ottawa, he said, this is just like the

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Speaker 2: January sixth insurrection. This is Trump style violent upright, like

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Speaker 2: he's so lusted for that situation. But the truckers were

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Speaker 2: completely peaceful. They didn't invade anywhere. And now the federal

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Speaker 2: court says the truckers were fined. It was the government

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Speaker 2: that was the law breaker. But there's still prosecuting to

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Speaker 2: Merrill Leach, who was the sort of spiritual leader of

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Speaker 2: the truckers. So that's incredibly That trial is going to

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Speaker 2: go on for at least two more months and it

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Speaker 2: could go on longer. Just so abusive. I hate to

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Speaker 2: say it because I'm a Canadian. I love Canada. I'm

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Speaker 2: proud of my country, but we have treated her like

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Speaker 2: a political prisoner. It's absolutely a stain on our national reputation.

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Speaker 1: We've got to take a quick break. Stay right there.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the whole point is to send a message

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Speaker 1: to other people like her. You know, don't you dare

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Speaker 1: defy the government?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: I mean, isn't isn't that The point of it is

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Speaker 1: to to you know, qust hit anyone else you know

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Speaker 1: who might have similar ideas.

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Speaker 2: Oh exactly, I mean. And the idea is if they

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Speaker 2: can take on Tamara Leach, who's popular and has a

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Speaker 2: lot of support, where they can certainly come after you.

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Speaker 2: And the police chief in Ottawa during the truckers he

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Speaker 2: actually went on TV and said, if you donting it,

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Speaker 2: we will haunt you dad like this thuglish police chief

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Speaker 2: Bret and peaceful citizens. It was out of control. I

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Speaker 2: truly was worried Canada was going to go full authoritarian.

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Speaker 2: We went part authoritarian, like I say, martial law, seizing

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Speaker 2: bank accounts. But even before that, I don't know if

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Speaker 2: you know how bad Canada was. I chose not to

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Speaker 2: be vaccinated and Abbansun's and I was not allowed. There

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Speaker 2: was a National Noble fly List. If you were not jabbed,

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Speaker 2: you could not get on a plane, even a domestic flight,

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Speaker 2: or a train. In Canada's the second largest country in

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Speaker 2: the world, so millions of Canadians were put on a

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Speaker 2: no fly list because we weren't jabbed. There was a

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Speaker 2: curfews the problems of Quebec population eight million, a large,

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Speaker 2: wonderful province. They drought in a curfew from ten pm

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Speaker 2: to five am. And that wasn't just for un jabbed

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Speaker 2: people that was jabbed or not healthy or sick. You

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Speaker 2: were not allowed to leave your house between the hours

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Speaker 2: of ten pm and five am every day. It was

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Speaker 2: like you were in transit, literally under house arrested. That's

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Speaker 2: how atrocious it was. And remember Justin Trudeau, he's always

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Speaker 2: admired authoritarian leaders. I don't know if you heard, but

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Speaker 2: before he became private industry, he was asked a question

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Speaker 2: on camera. He was asked, what country do you most

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Speaker 2: admire other than Canada? And he said Chinada. Now maybe

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Speaker 2: he meant the food, or the language, or the culture,

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Speaker 2: or the history or you know, the architecturally, there's a

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Speaker 2: lot of things to like about China, by the way,

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Speaker 2: but he finished that thought by saying China Palma because

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Speaker 2: of their basic dictatorship. Look it up, he lived or

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Speaker 2: really chose the most atrocious thing about China, and he

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Speaker 2: said that's why he liked it. The guy says who

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Speaker 2: he is? His father, Pierre Trudeau, who was Prime minister

556
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Speaker 2: forty years ago, was a full out socialist who said that,

557
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Speaker 2: who took his kids, who took young Justin to Siberia

558
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Speaker 2: and said, this is the land of the future. Remember

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Speaker 2: Pierre Trudeau would go and visit Fidel Castro in Cuba.

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Speaker 2: In fact, there's lots of Internet rumors and Fidel Castro

561
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Speaker 2: might actually be Justin's dad because.

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Speaker 1: The times comparison.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so here we have an authoritarian bully. And it

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Speaker 2: won't surprise you to know that Justin Trudeau loves the

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Speaker 2: World Economic Forum. That's his kind of people, because they're

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Speaker 2: all about censorship and control and authoritarianism and not having

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Speaker 2: to bother with you know, elections or anything rubby like that.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, that's why I didn't get the vaccine

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Speaker 1: as well, and I was so vocal about it. Here

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Speaker 1: was that I realized that, you know, this was about

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Speaker 1: something so much bigger than just my personal decision. To

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Speaker 1: not get a vaccine that you know, I never needed

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Speaker 1: for a virus that was never a threat to me.

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Speaker 1: You know I wanted to You know, you were also

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Speaker 1: one of the people on the receiving end of the

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Speaker 1: ire of your government. You know, you were prosecuted for

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Speaker 1: publishing a book about Justin Trudeau.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I am. I published a book in

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Speaker 2: the twenty nineteen Canadian election. All the brandos it would

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Speaker 2: sort of take off on the Sopranos, and the cover

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Speaker 2: of that book had a sort of stylized movie poster,

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Speaker 2: but instead of building soprano was true. Oh, it was

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Speaker 2: sort of a goofy yeah make But it was a

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Speaker 2: serious book. I went through Trudeau's corruption and that was

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Speaker 2: one of twenty four books that were published in Canada

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Speaker 2: during the twenty nineteen election. I mean that's twenty published books, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean there's probably going to be one hundred books

588
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Speaker 2: about Trump and Biden published in America this year because

589
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 2: election year. So I was just one of those guys.

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Speaker 2: I was an author published a book critical of Trudeau.

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Speaker 2: There were twenty three other books that praised Trudeau. So

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Speaker 2: just set in a seat election twenty four books. Mine

593
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 2: was the critical book that really went hard at them.

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Speaker 2: I get a letter from Elections Canada, which is like

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Speaker 2: your FEC, saying, we'd like you to come into our

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Speaker 2: office and be in interrogated by two thirty year veteran

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Speaker 2: mounties because we think your book is illegal. And I said,

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Speaker 2: what do you mean. They said, we think it's an

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Speaker 2: illegal campaign donation. And I know the law. I'm a

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Speaker 2: former lawyer, and you know, if you sell a book

601
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Speaker 2: at a regular book price, the book in the promotional

602
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:26,399
Speaker 2: book is legal. Of course it is. Well, I was convicted.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, I went to this interrogation and

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Speaker 2: I brought a secret camera in with me. I recorded

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Speaker 2: my interrogation because I knew in my bones, Lisa, that

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Speaker 2: no one would believe me. I mean, I bet you're

607
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Speaker 2: having trouble believing. I mean now when I say that you,

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Speaker 2: Senior Melvantes grilled me for an hour about my book

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Speaker 2: and why didn't I register literally said, why didn't you

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Speaker 2: register your book with the government. They said those words,

611
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Speaker 2: and you're probably thinking, no way, no way, come on.

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Speaker 2: That's why I took a hidden camera and there you

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Speaker 2: can find that on YouTube pretty quickly. Also, and I

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Speaker 2: fought them in court but incredibly, the government has upheld

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Speaker 2: the ruling that I had to register my book even

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Speaker 2: though there were twenty three other books published at the

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Speaker 2: exact same time. And I said that, I said that

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Speaker 2: to the bounties, and I said that to the judge,

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Speaker 2: and I said, you know why is why are you

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Speaker 2: prosecuting my book? Because well, and you know what the

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Speaker 2: mountie said to me. They said, well, if you should

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Speaker 2: make a complaint against the other twenty three books, No,

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Speaker 2: I don't believe in criminalizing books. So I have to

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Speaker 2: pay a thirteen thousand dollars fine and cause god doing that.

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Speaker 2: But I think I'm going to lose onun appeal. And

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Speaker 2: that's Canada. Our Internet is being censored. Trudeau has Our

627
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Speaker 2: version of the FCC has been expanded not just to

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Speaker 2: cover TV and radio and now covers the Internet. Trudeau

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Speaker 2: passed the law last year that gives them the authority

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Speaker 2: to alter the search algorithms of the big tech companies.

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Speaker 2: He can literally order them to change the quote discoverability

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Speaker 2: of any news so he can promote news that he

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Speaker 2: likes and demote news that he does them. Well, guess

634
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Speaker 2: what he's going to do? People like me, So I

635
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 2: think that Canada is like a bad ideas laboratory experiment.

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Speaker 2: But whatever happens here today, oh believe me, they're going

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Speaker 2: to try and do to you tomorrow. I mean Gavin

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Speaker 2: Newsom of California's best buddies with Trueau, they're two piece

639
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 2: are a pod. I mean, if you want to see

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00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 2: a cat fight, you give those two man one mirror

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Speaker 2: and watch the fight over them. And they're both narcissistic, authoritarian,

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00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 2: know nothing bullies who are presiding over failed states. But

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Speaker 2: imagine if Gavin Newso actually ran a country that's Canada.

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Speaker 2: So we've got atrocious ideas here. He's mister won't remember,

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Speaker 2: he's the one who interrupts. Someone said mankind. He said, no,

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Speaker 2: we see people kind. I swear to God you can

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Speaker 2: find that we have an atroocious prime minister and he

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Speaker 2: is coming for the last remaining skeptics. And I'm a skeptic.

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Speaker 2: Obviously I'm a critic. And by the way, you can

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Speaker 2: ticularly put I have to say interrupts. Agree with me.

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Speaker 2: But for God's takes, he wants to jail me. He's

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Speaker 2: finding me, He's prosecuted me. I don't know if you

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Speaker 2: saw a video about a week ago one of our

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Speaker 2: journalists encountered the Deputy Prime Minister on the street and

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Speaker 2: asked her two questions. Our guy was immediately assaulted by police,

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Speaker 2: handcuffed and taking them away in a police car. That's

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Speaker 2: just for asking questions. I'm worried, and I know Americans

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Speaker 2: care about streedom around the whole world. That's one of

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Speaker 2: the reasons the world aboves America, or at least some

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Speaker 2: of the world WANs America. It's one of the reasons

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Speaker 2: why some of the world hates America because you guys

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Speaker 2: stand for freedom. We love America because you fight for freedom.

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Speaker 2: But I know that you never think of Canada as

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Speaker 2: a problem. You're worried about the state of freedom in

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Speaker 2: the Middle East, in Chia and North Korea, go Venezuela

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Speaker 2: and stuff like that. But I don't think Americans realize

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Speaker 2: the problem you've got just to the north of you.

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Speaker 2: I think Americans think Canada is a boring place, is

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Speaker 2: full of snow and people who say, you know the

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Speaker 2: word A, Hey, how you doing A. I mean, Canada's

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Speaker 2: a friendly, boring neighbor and the perfect neighbor to have.

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Speaker 2: But we're not that place anymore. We're run by an

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Speaker 2: authoritarian bully. And one of the problems about being a

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Speaker 2: polite country that Canada thinks it's polite, is that when

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Speaker 2: someone does atrocious things to a polite person, sometimes the

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Speaker 2: polite person just takes it and doesn't fight back. Americans

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Speaker 2: have a revolutionary spirit. That's how your country was born.

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Speaker 2: Our country was just sort of, you know, was born

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Speaker 2: through evolution, not revolution. The very fact that we believe

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Speaker 2: in being nineties means we accept all sorts of not

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Speaker 2: nice things from our leadership. You say, oh, well, hopefully

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Speaker 2: it'll work out. Hey, it's not working out. Well.

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Speaker 1: I worry about freedom, you know, here as well. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we've got you know, states trying to you know, latterly

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Speaker 1: take Donald Trump, who's going to be the Republican nomini

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Speaker 1: obviously off of the battle, you know. So it's like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I just I don't know how free

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Speaker 1: the West in general is anymore, or if anyone really

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Speaker 1: cares about freedom anymore. It's something I've been worried about

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Speaker 1: for a while now.

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Speaker 2: You know, there's a poem by W. B. Names called

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Speaker 2: The Second Coming. It's a terrified poem and there is

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Speaker 2: one line in it. Maybe you've heard it the best

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Speaker 2: lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity.

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Speaker 2: And that scares the daylight said of me, because I

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Speaker 2: think that that's what he wrote one hundred years ago

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Speaker 2: after the First World War, and I feel that way now.

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Speaker 2: The best people not all conviction, while the worst are

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Speaker 2: full of passionate intensity. And it's not completely true. There

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Speaker 2: are still some amazing people in America, and you have

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Speaker 2: fifty United States and there's some people fighting like hell,

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Speaker 2: you know, just appear in the north looking down. I

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Speaker 2: admire what the governor of Texans since trying to do.

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Speaker 2: That's my opinion. I hope you don't mind me expressing

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Speaker 2: it about your countryamic cananion, No, I agree with it.

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Speaker 2: I mean you have different pockets of power. You have

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Speaker 2: good checks and bounces compared to other countries, so you

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Speaker 2: won't go down without a fight. We don't have the

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Speaker 2: checks and bounces. We don't have the masterpiece called when

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Speaker 2: you asked, Constitution. We don't have the Bill of Rights.

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Speaker 2: We have a shabby half effort called the Charter of

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Speaker 2: Rights that has many holes in it. So you have

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Speaker 2: you have an amazing legacy of freedom bequeathed to you.

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Speaker 2: The question is can you keep it? And I think

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Speaker 2: it's going to be tested. Like I say, when I

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Speaker 2: was in Davos, the number one thing that was on

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Speaker 2: everyone's lips was how do we start Trump? And you

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Speaker 2: might laugh and say, ah, you Europeans, that's got nothing

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Speaker 2: to do with you. Well they think it does. And

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Speaker 2: who is there but the Googles and facebooks and the

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Speaker 2: big tech AI companies. So you may think then it

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Speaker 2: doesn't matter what the World Economic form thinks about you,

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Speaker 2: but they're thinking a lot about you, and they're going

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Speaker 2: to do their best to meddle with you. I really

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Speaker 2: feel that a sense coming.

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Speaker 1: No, I worry about that too. Ezra Levant, publisher of

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Speaker 1: Rebel News. I follow Rebel News does work as well

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Speaker 1: as you always a really enlightening and interesting conversation. We

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Speaker 1: just so appreciate your time and bringing this on the show.

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Speaker 2: My pleasure, good luck and stay You're a light onto

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Speaker 2: the do nations. I'm a proud Canadian, but I thank

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Speaker 2: God for America, so stay free and stay strong my facts.

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Speaker 1: We will continue to do that, particularly on this show.

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Speaker 1: So we appreciate you and your fight in Canada.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, goodbye.

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Speaker 1: That was ezra Levant, publisher for Rebel News. They do

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Speaker 1: really great work. I encourage everyone to go check it out.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate him for making the time to come on the show.

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Speaker 1: He's always so smart and interesting. Appreciate you guys at

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Speaker 1: home for listening every Monday and Thursday, but of course

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Speaker 1: you can listen throughout the week. Feel free to give

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Speaker 1: us a reading or review on Apple. We always love

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Speaker 1: reading those. I want to thank my producer, John Cassio

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Speaker 1: for putting it together. Until next time,