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Speaker 1: Misspelling with Tori Spelling and iHeartRadio Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Hi doctor Taylor, Hi, thanks for having me. This is

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Speaker 2: so fun.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, thank you for doing this. So I've

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Speaker 1: had a health journey. Thank you literate. I'm like, how

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Speaker 1: far back do I go to even fill you in?

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Speaker 1: So predominantly you work in functional medicine and wellness, mostly females,

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Speaker 1: I hear yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean I started my practice out of residency. I

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Speaker 3: did preventive medicine at Lomolinda and that's really where I

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Speaker 3: learned about how to prevent disease and how to reverse disease,

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Speaker 3: which is nothing that we learned about in med school,

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Speaker 3: and really kind of got into hormones and things like that,

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Speaker 3: really learned about that. There started my practice with women,

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Speaker 3: just focusing on hormones for women, perimenopause, PMS, migraines, related

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Speaker 3: to the cycle, all of the things that women deal

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Speaker 3: with from the get go until like throughout life. And

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Speaker 3: then the women wanted me to see their husband, so

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Speaker 3: then I started seeing men, and then you know, got

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Speaker 3: super into gut health and all of that. So now

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Speaker 3: I sort of see lots of different people, but I

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Speaker 3: think mostly I'm known for you know, seeing women for hormones,

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Speaker 3: but I see kids and you know, elderly patients. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 3: that's good.

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Speaker 1: My kids have a lot of health issues too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So I was where was I. I was with one

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Speaker 1: of my kids, they're always sick too, at the doctor

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Speaker 1: and someone was telling me that when women have a

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Speaker 1: risk of heart attack or stroke or you know, at

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Speaker 1: a certain age and the signs, people have to relearn

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Speaker 1: because they don't teach you that in medical school. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because they do so many studies unjust men. Is that true.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's just sort of how it's been. I think historically, it.

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Speaker 1: Just historically that women don't matter, or we'll figure out

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Speaker 1: men and they're just the same.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think historically it's been focusing on men and

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Speaker 3: their symptoms and we are so different. But yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 3: i'd love to hear about your health journey and sort

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Speaker 3: of what you've been dealing with, sure, because I'd love

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Speaker 3: to just kind of dive in and figure out. It's

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Speaker 3: interesting because you asked about how far back should you go?

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Speaker 3: So when I see my patients for the very first

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Speaker 3: time for consultation, we go back to the first years

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Speaker 3: of their life, the first ten years of their life,

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Speaker 3: the next ten years of their life, like decade by decade,

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Speaker 3: And that's sort of how I wrote my book because

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Speaker 3: every decade matters, and it all sets you up for

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Speaker 3: how you're gonna process your hormones, manage your hormones, and

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Speaker 3: metabolize your hormones from teenageers into twenties into thirties.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, so I just go back all the way

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Speaker 2: to the very beginning.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's do it. I'll be brief because I'm fifty two,

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Speaker 1: so that would take up the whole hour. But so

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Speaker 1: I was always sick as a kid at a time

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Speaker 1: when they didn't know about antibiotics. So every time I

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Speaker 1: was sick, I was put on antibiotics. It's felt like

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Speaker 1: I was on antibiotics like monthly, Like I was just

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Speaker 3: Strep, throat or ear infections or just upper respiratory.

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Speaker 1: I would get sinus. I don't even remember as a

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Speaker 1: kid if they called it sinus, like yeah, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: Then I always had GI problems, which were probably from

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Speaker 1: the antibiotics. I don't know definitely, I was on like

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Speaker 1: take it was polaroids back then, pictures of my poop

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Speaker 1: what was progressing. Cut to teenage years, probably sick less,

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Speaker 1: alternative medicines and being like, oh, antibiotics are bad. And

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Speaker 1: I remember at Craft Service they would have like emergency packets,

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Speaker 1: all of the supplements and everything, and I felt like

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Speaker 1: And I'd be like, I'm twenty five and I feel

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Speaker 1: I would just describe it as being like my interior

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Speaker 1: No one really understood me. They'd be like, do all

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Speaker 1: the blood work everything. You know, you're really healthy, You're fine.

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Speaker 1: Were your parents like then, oh, interesting, I don't remember,

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Speaker 2: Very like, yeah, okay, birth control.

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Speaker 1: Birth control I was on. It's also when I started

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Speaker 1: getting migraines at twenty five, really bad, and I was like,

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Speaker 1: I never missed work, like that was a big deal

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Speaker 1: I remember I had a migraine that was so bad

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Speaker 1: couldn't work. And that was the first time. Ye I

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Speaker 1: started going to you know, tons of neurologists and all

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Speaker 1: Then I want to say, so it was migraines, it

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Speaker 1: was immune issues. Then I got pregnant at thirty three naturally,

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Speaker 1: and then that like road just like started. I had

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Speaker 1: all my kids except my last one, very back to back. First,

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Speaker 1: six years and then at forty four my fifth. Okay literally,

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Speaker 1: but also I mean, I know I'm jumping ahead now,

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Speaker 1: And then at the time a friend said, if you

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Speaker 1: had your house check for mold, and I was like, well,

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Speaker 1: I did, and that led to a whole spiral of

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Speaker 1: disorders that it caused within us that we kind of

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Speaker 1: turn us. Everyone was like, they were like, there's something

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Speaker 1: my aunt. He finally said, he's known me for years

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Speaker 1: He said there's immune issues here and I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 1: We've always had kind of underlying immune issues since mold

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Speaker 1: there were markers, like a preliminary one markers for immune

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I find that the gut health kind

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Speaker 3: A kid really really sets you up for what your

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Speaker 3: so not dealing with like that gut microbiome that was

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Speaker 3: inevitably off every single year as you were taking antibiotics

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Speaker 3: the future. And we in conventional medicine, we do not

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Speaker 3: focus on the gut microbiome, Like we don't learn about

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Speaker 3: that in medical school, we don't learn about that in residency.

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Speaker 3: But when you think about the gut, is like seventy

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Speaker 3: to eighty percent of all of our immune cells are

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Speaker 3: then you add stress onto that and poor sleep and

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Speaker 3: I think the gut is for you is super important

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Speaker 3: to focus on and really getting all of those tests,

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Speaker 3: on gut microbiome and leaky gut and small intestinal bacterial overgrowth.

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Speaker 3: I mean that stuff is so key, especially since you're

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Speaker 3: the majority of the population is so important, and that's

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Speaker 3: really what I do with my you know, the women

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Speaker 3: you know, they're really focusing on their hormones. I mean

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Speaker 3: but you know, focusing on hormones, but focusing on the

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Speaker 3: gut like either right before or right after, Like they

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Speaker 3: have to be like done together, because if you don't

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Speaker 3: important the gut free. And that's really what I find

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Speaker 3: the eighties. Like I know, you go to the doctor,

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Speaker 3: I kind of have a bowel movement like every few days.

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Speaker 2: Like that is not okay.

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Speaker 3: That is not the way that your gut is supposed

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Speaker 3: to work, Like you've got to get rid of those toxins.

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Speaker 3: So then now you've got toxins building up in the

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Speaker 3: system leading to inflammation. And then inflammation just presents itself

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Speaker 3: in lots of different ways, sinacitis, you know, like migraines,

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Speaker 3: Things like arthritis, rheumatied arthritis, like all of those things

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Speaker 3: are just signs of inflammation and so decreasing that inflammation

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Speaker 3: first of all, finding out where that inflammation is coming from.

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Speaker 3: Is it the yet, is it mold? You know, things

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Speaker 3: like that, Really investigating that and then getting that inflammation

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Speaker 3: out of the body. I mean cancer, you know, thinking

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Speaker 3: about that right, like inflammation is really the root. So

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Speaker 3: I think that, you know, I mean that's functional medicine

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Speaker 3: is really sort of figuring out what the root cause is.

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Speaker 3: And to your point about mold, I feel like there's

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Speaker 3: so many people who especially when it affects the family,

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Speaker 3: and families are getting sick, like the whole household.

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Speaker 2: It's like people have got to be thinking about mold.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I remember, right before we discovered it, it was

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Speaker 1: manifesting my children different ways some had said these problems.

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Speaker 1: Some had respiratory problems. One of my children was getting

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Speaker 3: it's like insurance companies should just pay for that as

435
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 3: part of like standard standard healthcare for moms.

436
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Speaker 1: It's so amazing.

437
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, maybe we'll spearhead that I'll do it.

438
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I never thought I was like a

439
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 1: candidate for a doula because my first was an emergency

440
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: C section, and then I remember my doctor saying you

441
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: should set I said, I want to do a vback

442
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 1: with my second, and he was like, you didn't dilate.

443
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 1: You're not going to dilate again, most likely you should,

444
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 1: you know, just schedule a C section. So I did,

445
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 1: not knowing that if I wanted to try on my

446
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: third you couldn't. Like, once you've had two, the rest

447
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 1: have to b c sections. So then I went on

448
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: to have five C sections. So my body's just like, yeah,

449
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: my nerves damaged, like it just yeah, there's a lot,

450
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff in my body. Yeah, so i'm

451
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 1: the fact that I'm like standing. It's yeah, we go

452
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 1: through a lot so much. No one thinks about that.

453
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 1: It's so interesting.

454
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

455
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, you had mentioned breast implant illness, yes, or breast

456
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 3: implant related to the immune system, which I think is

457
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 3: again like something. So you know, it's like our body

458
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 3: is sort of well, okay, so I will say that

459
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 3: that's a thing for sure, Like I completely believe it,

460
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 3: and I see it with patients in my practice, and

461
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 3: I do think that it needs to be something that's

462
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 3: just like generally considered as being an illness that truly exists.

463
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 3: I mean, you think about like this foreign thing in

464
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 3: the body and how you how your immune system is

465
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 3: reacting to it.

466
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 1: Right, it would attack it, like we know all of that,

467
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: so like it makes perfect sense. But I feel like

468
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: in general, so again on the show, and she was

469
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 1: talking about it, which made me think about it. But

470
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 1: I've thought about it before but always felt kind shamed

471
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 1: asking because I didn't. I remember I did ask some

472
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 1: doctors like back in the day about it, and then

473
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: you're shamed enough they stopped asking.

474
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it was probably just a

475
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 3: combination of things of like immune system as a kid,

476
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 3: and then stress and maybe poor sleep and sort of

477
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 3: burning the candle at both ends, yes, and then the

478
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:36,959
Speaker 3: breast implant illness thing was you know, it probably just

479
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 3: all sort of came to you know, ahead eventually in

480
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 3: your mid twenties, because it's not normal for a twenty

481
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 3: five year old to all of a sudden have no

482
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 3: energy and feel like they're eighty like that is not normal,

483
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 3: So there's definitely something that happened starting yeah mm hmmm, yeah,

484
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 3: which for me, for my younger patients, I mean, I

485
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 3: remember or a friend of mine in high school having

486
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 3: migraines every single month and it was completely related to

487
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,959
Speaker 3: her cycle. But I'm sure nobody actually knew that at

488
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 3: the time. I mean, head down, crying on her desk

489
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 3: in math class. So, you know, focusing on periods, you know,

490
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 3: as being really like our fifth vital sign that we

491
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 3: need to be focusing on so intentionally, you know, and

492
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 3: teaching our daughters to focus on their periods and what

493
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 3: their periods are like. And you know, we still throw

494
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 3: women on birth control left, right and center and think

495
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 3: that there's like nothing wrong with it.

496
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 2: So you can't.

497
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 3: Actually assess your period when you're on birth control just

498
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 3: because you're bleeding, it's actually not a period if you

499
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 3: think about that for a second. I mean, that is

500
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 3: so important to understand that when we take birth control,

501
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 3: we are actually shutting down the connection between the brain

502
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 3: and our ovaries, so we're actually not producing the hormones

503
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 3: that we normally produce. We have this this synthetic these

504
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 3: synthetic hormones that are that are acting like our hormones

505
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 3: and we think it's a period, but it's actually not

506
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 3: our period.

507
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 2: And then we wonder.

508
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 3: Why we have all of these problems. We wonder why

509
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 3: we don't feel good. We wonder why we have you know,

510
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 3: mood swings and infertility and pcos and like all of

511
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 3: these hormone related things. It's all sort of connected to

512
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 3: our hormones. I mean a lot of it's connected to

513
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Speaker 3: our hormones. Obviously not every single symptom that we have,

514
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 3: but we kind of dismiss our hormones as being like

515
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 3: not something that's worth thinking about.

516
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: More.

517
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 3: We're doing it now with menopause. More women, like I

518
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 3: said before, more women are really focusing on hormones related

519
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 3: to menopause. But we're not backing that up to thinking

520
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 3: about hormones as a teenager, to thinking about hormones as

521
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 3: a twenty something year old, to thinking about hormones as

522
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 3: a thirty something year old. So we have to be

523
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 3: really thinking about it out.

524
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: Of the gate.

525
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Speaker 2: What is your fifteen year old's daughter, you know, what

526
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 2: is her period like? Is it heavy? Does she have

527
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 2: mood swings? Does she have migraines?

528
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 3: You know, does she have debilitating cramps where she's taking

529
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 3: like motrin around the clock, Like that's not healthy, you know,

530
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 3: So all of those things right, Like we have to

531
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 3: really and so when we think about hormones for those

532
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 3: for the teenage daughters, let's just think about that for

533
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 3: a second. We have to consider that their symptoms are

534
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 3: related to their hormones, and then get their hormones tested

535
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 3: in a way that actually gives information. So looking at

536
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 3: like a twenty four hour y'urine test for example, or

537
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 3: a twenty four or a twenty four hour saliva test

538
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 3: for example, of really analyzing during the luteal phase, what

539
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 3: is their progesterone doing? Is their estrogen way too high?

540
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 3: Like if your estrogen is too high relative to your

541
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 3: progesterone and I talk about all of this in the book,

542
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 3: it is causing things like super heavy period. So you

543
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 3: shouldn't be changing a tampon like every hour around the

544
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 3: clock for your first couple of days of your period,

545
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 3: like that is not normal. You shouldn't be having cramps

546
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 3: that are keeping you home from school, that is not normal.

547
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 3: You shouldn't be having mood swings and feeling like the

548
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 3: world is doom and gloom.

549
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 2: Like a week or two weeks before your period.

550
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 3: That is not normal. So now that we know those

551
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,959
Speaker 3: symptoms are related to hormones.

552
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 2: We have to get that.

553
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 3: We have to get their hormones tested in a way

554
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 3: that is going to be helpful. And I don't put

555
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 3: my teenage patients on hormone replacement like that's not you know,

556
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 3: we don't do that. But we do things like address

557
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 3: their gut health, which is a super important part of

558
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 3: how we're processing hormones. So if they're constipated, for example,

559
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 3: they are actually re uptaking their estrogen into their system,

560
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 3: so now they're becoming estrogen dominant and that causes a

561
00:32:55,800 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 3: lot of period kind of hormone issues that these teenage

562
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 3: girls have. But we're sort of still addressing, you know,

563
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 3: girls period issues with all sorts of other medication. Put

564
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 3: them on birth control, give them something for anxiety, give

565
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 3: them something, start them on antidepressants for their mood, give them.

566
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: A daughter ex. Friends. They're being put on birth control,

567
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 1: they're still centraally active just for migraines.

568
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 2: And.

569
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 3: It's not I know, we're in the dark ages still

570
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 3: with that. We've come further with menopause, but we're totally

571
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 3: still in the dark ages as far as like how

572
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 3: we you know, I mean, how we're dealing with this,

573
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 3: So that's not the way to treat, you know, and

574
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 3: and putting still putting girls on acutane like it's insane.

575
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 2: I mean that's still done regularly, and yeah, it's a

576
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 2: it's a very toxic form.

577
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 3: But if we think about I mean, obviously we you know,

578
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 3: it's not acceptable to just have acne, But there's other

579
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 3: ways from a functional medicine perspective to address acne, right.

580
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 2: Like a let's look at the diet. Every single thing

581
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 2: you put in your mouth, everything affects your body, affects your.

582
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 3: Skin, affect you know, the skin is just a manifestation

583
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 3: of what's happening on the inside. That's all it is. Right,

584
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 3: So if you think about, okay, what, let me like

585
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 3: analyze what's happening on the inside. So diet is super key,

586
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 3: sleep is super key. The gut is so important, so important.

587
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 3: I mean, we've talked about that this whole time together

588
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 3: and it is really crucial. So getting those girls, like,

589
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 3: let's get your gut microbiome checked, Let's do that breath test,

590
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 3: let's do the stool test, let's make sure because we

591
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 3: know that like you know, the gut microbiome being off,

592
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 3: having leaky gut, having cebo causes the skin to react.

593
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,760
Speaker 3: You mentioned rashes earlier on. I mean the rat again,

594
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 3: like a rash is and I remember when I was

595
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 3: in pedes, rashes were like everyone's, you know, the bane

596
00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 3: of our existence because it's so obscure like rashes. You know,

597
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 3: nobody knows where a rash is coming from. It could

598
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 3: be like a thousand things. But again, it's just a

599
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 3: manifestation of what's happening on the inside of the body.

600
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,399
Speaker 3: So you've got to look inside and get the right

601
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 3: testing that you need to figure out what is it,

602
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,240
Speaker 3: Where is this inflammation coming from? Is it the diet,

603
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 3: is it your gut? Is it a toxin? Is it

604
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 3: something you know? So there's just so there's so many

605
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 3: things to do with in functional medicine that we as

606
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 3: train conventional medicine doctors, which I am very trained, you know,

607
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 3: conventional medicine trained, We.

608
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 2: Have to really really start.

609
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 3: Thinking about looking at all the systems are connected, right,

610
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 3: like every single thing from head to toe, every system

611
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 3: is connected, and how do we analyze the system.

612
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 2: As a whole to really delve into where.

613
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,919
Speaker 3: These symptoms are coming from, because if you can fix

614
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 3: the root cause, then you fix the symptom. But we're

615
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 3: still in the symptom management mode to as conventional medicine.

616
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 1: I have a question, what if there's parents out there

617
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,720
Speaker 1: that are thinking this sounds great, I need to test

618
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: my children. I financially can't do it, Like is it

619
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: radically more expensive? It's like when we were all supposed

620
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: to switch to organic, but the price was higher, and

621
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: it's like, well, some people can't afford to do that.

622
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: Is it better for your body?

623
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 2: Yet the price of being sick is really costly?

624
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: True, really costly true.

625
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 3: I mean, we are on this earth for such a

626
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 3: finite period of time. Your health is the most important thing.

627
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 3: Your child's health is the most important thing. How much

628
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,720
Speaker 3: do we spend on insurance every single month? One thousand

629
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 3: dollars fifteen hundred a month. And you go to your

630
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 3: doctor and what are you getting from those visits?

631
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 2: Right?

632
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 1: Like?

633
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 3: You go once a year, you do some blood work,

634
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 3: everything's normal, but I don't feel good. Well, I don't know,

635
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 3: try this medication. I'll see you back. Like if you

636
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 3: think about your resources and what you're how you're disposing

637
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 3: your resources and dispersing them. There's nothing more important than

638
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 3: feeling good. And it's not astronomical. It's not millions of

639
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 3: dollars to get your gut microbiome tested. I mean the

640
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 3: stool test is what two hundred and fifty dollars. I mean,

641
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 3: it's like you think about what we spend money on,

642
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 3: and it's you know, I mean, I think we just

643
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 3: I think that there's not enough focus on the importance

644
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 3: of these tests. You know, back in the day, I

645
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 3: think you know, maybe people if you think about other things,

646
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 3: like people would probably just drink tap water all the time.

647
00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 3: Now now every you know, now people know the value

648
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 3: of spring water. To your point about organic, like most

649
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 3: you know, a lot of us are using organic because

650
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 3: we know about the pesticides and things like that. We

651
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 3: have to really understand that functional medicine and figuring out

652
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 3: root cause is like the name of the game. And

653
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 3: until that becomes common knowledge, we will make excuses every

654
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 3: single time because we don't understand the value and we

655
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 3: don't understand how radically it can change our lives.

656
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 2: And that's really the key.

657
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: But is it available everywhere?

658
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 2: It is?

659
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 3: It is I mean, I practice in cal I'm here

660
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 3: based in LA. You know, I'm licensed in California. I'm

661
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 3: licensed in Tennessee. For all the Nashville patients, there are

662
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 3: functional medicine doctors. An MD functional medicine doctor is pretty rare.

663
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 3: There are not a lot of us around, but functional

664
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 3: medicine sort of in general, you can access it online nowadays.

665
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 3: Ever since COVID, I feel like one of the best

666
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 3: things that came out of COVID was.

667
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,280
Speaker 2: Just like sort of access to care.

668
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 3: Like telemedicine, right, Like that's become really common, that's available

669
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 3: widely throughout the country. So I think, you know, a

670
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 3: little Google Internet search will show you who's available in

671
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 3: your state. But yeah, I mean, there's so many amazing

672
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 3: things that we can do that if we just think about,

673
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 3: you know, what's going on, and get the right resources

674
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 3: and get the right provider who really understands and like

675
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,800
Speaker 3: can tap in and say, hey, you're experiencing all these symptoms,

676
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 3: Let's back it up and see when these started, and

677
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 3: then let's do some testing to sort of figure it out. Okay,

678
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:43,760
Speaker 3: I think it's probably your gut microbiom.

679
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 2: Let's start with that. Let's heal your gut, and then

680
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,919
Speaker 2: let's focus on your hormones because that's also probably what's

681
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 2: going on.

682
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 3: And then I mean you're off to the races and

683
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,439
Speaker 3: you feel like a million bucks. I mean, people can

684
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 3: feel so much better.

685
00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 2: And I think that that's really like such a like

686
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 2: a hopeful message. I feel like, hopefully for so many

687
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 2: is that you can feel better than you've ever felt

688
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 2: in your entire life. It's amazing. I've seen it over

689
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 2: and over and over again for all the years that

690
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 2: I've practiced more than a decade of you know, women

691
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 2: and men coming in and saying, I've never felt better

692
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 2: in my entire life, and it's it's possible.

693
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 3: So functional medicine, I feel like, is super super important.

694
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 3: Back in the day one hundred and twenty, you know whatever, years.

695
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,919
Speaker 2: Ago, we used to go to people's houses. I would

696
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 2: come to your house.

697
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 3: I would sit down, I would look at your environment.

698
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 3: I would look for the mole, I would look at

699
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 3: how you're doing, what you're eating, blah blah blah. Now

700
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:47,720
Speaker 3: everything is you know, there's one hundred and sixties different

701
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 3: types of specialists. I mean, there are so many different

702
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 3: So now you're going from one doctor to the immunologists,

703
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 3: the neurologists, the GI doc Like, we need to stop

704
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 3: making everything into a silo. Everything in to like a system.

705
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 3: The whole body is a huge system, and we can

706
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 3: as physicians actually address.

707
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 2: The entire system. Just one physician. It's possible. You are

708
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 2: like the female house. Oh yeah, I love him.

709
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 1: Oh yes, I love a lot of time.

710
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I love it.

711
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, oh my goodness. So you are LA based.

712
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, my practice is in Pasadena. Can I come see

713
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 2: you I'm seeing Yes, I'd love it because.

714
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: I got to tell you, like rebuilding and getting this

715
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: health journey, it is very daunting with five kids, single

716
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: mom working all the time, that the thought of just

717
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: one doctor after another and I started the process, you know,

718
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: I worked at the et immunologist, but it's just a

719
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 1: million doctors. At some point, I know me, I'm going

720
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:57,399
Speaker 1: to be like I'm too busy and just shut down

721
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: and not do it totally. So I would love to

722
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: just to you.

723
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, that'd be amazing, amazing. And we haven't even talked

724
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,399
Speaker 3: about stress as a hormone. Cortisol as a hormone, which

725
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 3: is like one of the very first primary hormones that

726
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 3: I test because if your stress is too high, you're

727
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 3: causing inflammation. And we really think about we really sort

728
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 3: of in our culture, I feel like have accepted stress

729
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 3: is like, oh, you know, it means I'm productive or

730
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 3: whatever it is. But stress that cortisol hormone is also

731
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 3: something super key to address that affects everything.

732
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, we should deal with that onlind Yeah, it's a lot. Yeah,

733
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: because I'm the type that like, I can you get

734
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 1: hit with a million things? Yeah, and I'm like, oh,

735
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: you know, there's no choice, just keep going and keep going.

736
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, yeah, So I take on a lot

737
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: of stress twenty four to seven, you know, whether it's

738
00:42:55,080 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 1: you know, personal, workplace, like it's just everything. It's just going,

739
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: keep going. Wow, Okay, last question. I have so many

740
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 1: questions for you, but yeah, for now, red light therapy.

741
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 1: I feel like that is something that everyone talks about.

742
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: It's so healing. There's so many out there that my

743
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,879
Speaker 1: brain is just like, how do I know which one's good?

744
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: Because you know they have one, you know, ones that

745
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: can cost hundreds even thousands, and then people say, oh no, no, no,

746
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 1: you can get you know, cheap ones on Amazon. Do

747
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: they work as well? Like what's the best way.

748
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 2: I think we can overcomplicate so many things.

749
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 3: So red light therapy is supposed to be anti inflammatory, detox, right,

750
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 3: there's I mean, even just going to asana a few

751
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 3: days a week for a short period of time can

752
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 3: make a huge difference. So I am not you know,

753
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 3: I haven't delved deep into the all different types of

754
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 3: red light therapy, but I do think that like we

755
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 3: can get very or consumers can get very bogged down

756
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,720
Speaker 3: in all, it's.

757
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 2: A new thing, the red light therapy thing.

758
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 3: It's a totally new thing, right, Like we weren't talking

759
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 3: about red light therapy ten years ago.

760
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 2: So what exactly is the point.

761
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 3: Of red light therapy and what can you do to

762
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 3: actually implement the detox and the anti inflammation and support

763
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 3: your immune system just in general, like not over complicating

764
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 3: things sweating, right, like go for a run, do some yoga,

765
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 3: like go be in nature. I mean, being in nature

766
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:48,760
Speaker 3: alone is so important for just calming our system, commoning

767
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 3: our cortisol, calming our adrenals. Just a regular good old

768
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 3: hot saana is great for you know. So I don't know,

769
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 3: I just think the red light therapy is little bit

770
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 3: like just the new fad, right, you know, And so

771
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 3: what really are we trying to do for ourselves. We're

772
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 3: really trying to focus on detoxing and sweating it out,

773
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 3: and there's really great ways.

774
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 2: To do that, and exercise is probably just a really

775
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 2: great way to do that.

776
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 3: You know, Like we've got to move our body, like

777
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 3: our body is literally meant to move. So finding what

778
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 3: that is for you? Is it swimming? Is it low impact?

779
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 3: Is it walking?

780
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 2: Is it? I mean I walk a ton. You know,

781
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 2: we live in like kind of a hilly.

782
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 3: Area, and I just I and it's great running, you know,

783
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 3: if you can run, I think that's great for just detoxing.

784
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think peptides is also something that is

785
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 3: an interesting new sort of topic of conversation in sort

786
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 3: of the health and wellness world. And just to kind

787
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 3: of delve into that for a second, peptide can be

788
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 3: very helpful for healing and for the gut and things

789
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 3: like that. So I do incorporate peptides into my practice

790
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:11,399
Speaker 3: when it makes sense.

791
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: It makes sense now. I just did an interview with

792
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: a plastic surgeon another day, and he actually mentioned peptides

793
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: and he said that he thinks they're kind of bullshit.

794
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 3: I mean I see some incredible results healing the guts,

795
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:36,280
Speaker 3: healing inflammation injuries. Like if you think of injuries where

796
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:41,919
Speaker 3: like a shoulder injury for example, and you know you're

797
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 3: going to physical therapy and they're recommending surgery, right like

798
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 3: these things that sort of result.

799
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 2: In serious.

800
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 3: Treatments, and then you do things like peptides and all

801
00:46:55,960 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 3: the inflammation is decreased and your injury has been healed.

802
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:02,760
Speaker 2: Like I mean peptide.

803
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 3: I would take peptides any day over an invasive surgery.

804
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: Of course you would.

805
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 4: Right.

806
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: See, That's where it's just there's disconnect right with everyone.

807
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,919
Speaker 1: It's like, I mean, peptides are the big thing. Even

808
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: even my teens are like hearing all about same with

809
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 1: my teens and Okay, why do.

810
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 3: You stop it because it's probably just all on their

811
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 3: TikTok and their Instagram and they're just Yes, my son

812
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 3: said it to me about like GHK copper.

813
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 2: I'm like, why do you know what that is? You

814
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 2: should have?

815
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 3: No, He's like no, no, no, Mom, it's really good.

816
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 3: I'm like fifteen, Okay, yeah, they're they're just getting life bombarded.

817
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 3: It's just what's on their feed.

818
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 1: Wow.

819
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 2: But I think.

820
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 3: You know, we as doctors tend to you know, sort

821
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,439
Speaker 3: of poo poo different things, right like, but I think

822
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 3: that we have to we have to accept what we

823
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:58,879
Speaker 3: see that works, right Like, if it works and if

824
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 3: it's healing, like hormones, for example, if hormones actually take

825
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 3: a woman out of deep, dark dark depression and they

826
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,399
Speaker 3: feel like a new person and they want to live

827
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 3: life and they're happy and they're sleeping, then hormones work,

828
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,399
Speaker 3: right Like, they work, and they're part of like who

829
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 3: we are. They're part of our makeup. I mean, we

830
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 3: are as women who we are because of our hormones,

831
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 3: like they are everything. So when you know, again, like

832
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 3: in conventional medicine, we like to sort of say, oh, well,

833
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 3: you know, that doesn't work or that. But if we

834
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 3: see clinically anecdotally that something is really impacting hundreds and

835
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 3: thousands of women on a regular basis and making them

836
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 3: feel whole and healthy and healed, then then they work.

837
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 3: I mean we have to say, because you know, it's

838
00:48:58,080 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 3: like in medicine, we also want to do all this

839
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,399
Speaker 3: research and we also want to come up with these

840
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 3: big fancy reports of some study that shows something or other,

841
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 3: right like that's what we do in medicine all the time. Like,

842
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 3: as scientist, we're constantly doing these studies that prove something.

843
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 3: But again to your point, like we're not doing studies

844
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 3: on you know, women a lot of times, and we're

845
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 3: not really looking at the things that actually are Like

846
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,359
Speaker 3: what if we took a postpartum population and we put

847
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 3: them on antidepressants, and then we took another postpartum population

848
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:39,399
Speaker 3: we put them on progesterone. Has that study ever been done?

849
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: Has it?

850
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 2: I don't think so.

851
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 4: That would be fantastic, but it would be life changing

852
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 4: to see the difference in those women who were on

853
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 4: progesterone and how they feel whole and healthy versus like,

854
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 4: you know, this subset and how they feel.

855
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: So yes, I mean, yeah, I know if I felt

856
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: that way, I would totally want to be on progesterone,

857
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: which is something our body typically naturally creates, rather than

858
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 1: be put on an antidepressant, which I know is needed

859
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 1: for so many people and so helpful. But yeah, sometimes

860
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 1: we don't know the difference.

861
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 3: We don't understand that our body naturally has hormones that

862
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 3: are for that that if they're deficient, we're going to

863
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 3: feel moody period. End of story. So what do you

864
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 3: do you treat that deficiency? You don't add on some

865
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 3: external thing. I think it's sure it's going to make

866
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 3: a difference, but there's lots of things that make differences

867
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 3: that aren't necessarily the right answer. So it's not that

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Speaker 3: antidepressants and anti anxiety hormones don't help. They do, but

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Speaker 3: A at what cost? And B what's the long term effect?

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Speaker 3: And see which is the most important thing? Is there

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Speaker 3: something else that's actually causing that symptom that if you

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Speaker 3: focus on that deficiency, everything goes away.

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Speaker 1: Drop the hormones here. That was amazing. That just gave

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Speaker 1: me so much hope. Really, Yeah, and that's what we

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Speaker 1: all want in life. We want hope when there's so

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Speaker 1: much going on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're like missing the big picture. We are missing

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Speaker 3: the big picture. We're focusing on the trees and we're

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Speaker 3: completely missing the forest, Like we have not been able

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Speaker 3: to actually take a bird's eye view and we're literally

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Speaker 3: in the weeds. We're focusing on oh, this and this

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Speaker 3: and this, all these different things and wondering why we

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Speaker 3: feel like garbage all the time. It's because we are

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Speaker 3: in our society unable to actually take three steps back

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Speaker 3: and really see what's going on. And we're just bombarded

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Speaker 3: by information all the time, information coming at us all

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Speaker 3: the time that we're trying to process, and we don't

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Speaker 3: have the tools to process it right. So I need

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Speaker 3: to we need to. Yeah, we need a toolbox. We

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Speaker 3: need to re define with our toolboxes.

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Speaker 1: I love redefining terms and situations because it's different time now,

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Speaker 1: redefining our toolbox. On that note, awesome, I'll see you

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Speaker 1: next week. Yes, thank you for doing this, doctor Julie Taylor.

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Speaker 1: You're welcome.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: Bye,