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Speaker 1: Sports Radio over Reaction Tuesday. Welcome to the program. Already

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Speaker 1: in progress, Hour two. Fritzie's here seat and Marv Paulie's

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Speaker 1: out today. Dylan is in his chair.

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Speaker 2: Of course, the backroom guys offering up emotional support as always.

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Speaker 2: It's a Friday, Fritzy on a Tuesday, with Paulie not here,

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Speaker 2: deep end. We will have a rhyme time coming up

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Speaker 2: later on this hour. Would you explain to the audience

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Speaker 2: what rhyme time is and how it works.

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Speaker 3: The way it works is I give you, guys two

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Speaker 3: clues and the answers rhyme with one another.

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Speaker 4: Why don't you give us a four instance?

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Speaker 5: For instance, as I grabbed my sheet?

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Speaker 3: Okay, how about this Bengal Broadcast Award Bengal Broadcast.

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Speaker 4: Award Edward R. Murrow Burrow.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's too many words. It's just Burrow Murrow.

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Speaker 3: But you did get it.

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Speaker 5: So that's a one word to one word.

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Speaker 4: Why to do the Edgar is yeah, no, they don't

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Speaker 5: That's unfortunately Borrow Murrow is the right answer. And that's

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Speaker 2: question for hour two. Seth Wickersham, senior writer at The Mothership,

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Speaker 2: has a new book and it's all about quarterbacks. Here's

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Speaker 2: something I want to bring up to him, because it

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Speaker 2: used to be the focus of the NFL was about

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Speaker 2: the running back. It wasn't about the quarterback. And I

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Speaker 2: want to know when that changed. When we went from

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Speaker 2: you know, Jim Brown and Marion Motley and all of

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Speaker 2: these you know, hop Along Cassidy and Red Grange and

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Speaker 2: Jim then it went to the quarterback. When did that happen?

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Speaker 2: Because now we've had quarterbacks who have been celebrities back

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Speaker 2: in the twenties, thirties and forties, but now that that

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Speaker 2: is the marquee position in all the sports, being a

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Speaker 4: But the book is.

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Speaker 2: Great and it deals with the evolution of the quarterback

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Speaker 2: in not only the NFL but also in college. So

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Speaker 2: he'll join us coming up a little bit later on

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Speaker 2: Minnesota wins twenty seven to twenty four. If I said

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Speaker 2: fill in the blank, let's do an early fill in

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Speaker 2: the blank, Marvin, I'll start with you. After last night,

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Speaker 2: the Vikings are blank.

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Speaker 4: Contenders. Dylan better than I thought, a dangerous.

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Speaker 2: Seatan solid after last night, the Bears are blank Todd

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Speaker 4: Thought they were? Ooh ooh, Marvin, what Seaton said? Dylan

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Speaker 4: not terrible on offense? Yeah, I expected. I thought I

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Speaker 2: I thought the Bears were going to win that game,

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Speaker 2: and it certainly looked like that seventeen to six going

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Speaker 2: the final quarter. But it did feel like Kevin O'Connell

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Speaker 2: he took advantage of it a couple of touchdown passes,

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Speaker 2: touchdown run and it started to look and feel like okay.

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Speaker 2: Because I, once again I've said this before, I've said

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Speaker 2: and nothing really stood out. But I think, you know,

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Speaker 2: that's a partial blame to Jim Harbaugh because I kept thinking,

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Speaker 2: game against Ohio State, where you go, okay, but I

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Speaker 2: didn't see enough of that. And I remember, you know,

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Speaker 2: one of my sources is a scout, and he goes, no,

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Speaker 2: the guy wins, and I go, but now, what's that mean?

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Speaker 2: He somehow does what he needs to do when you

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Speaker 2: three quarters. Now glimpses, But Caleb Williams is supposed to

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Speaker 2: have those kind of games. We're waiting. That's six consecutive

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Speaker 2: But Caleb Williams, he shows glimpses. I just want him

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Speaker 2: to be great for a game. That's that's what happens

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Speaker 2: with quarterbacks in the NFL. It's not just hey I'm

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Speaker 2: then you got to be great. That's usually what you

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Speaker 2: find out with these Marquee Courton like, you know, he

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Speaker 2: saw Josh Allen, all right, he's good. Now he needs

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Speaker 2: to be great, and he was. You know, Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 2: was great. But I need that quarterback who's going to

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Speaker 2: be I'll keep my team in the in the game,

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Speaker 2: or he might be leading, but when you need me

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Speaker 2: the most, that's when I step up. That's what separated

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Speaker 4: We got that guy.

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Speaker 2: And you saw that last night with JJ McCarthy, And

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Speaker 2: I think that that was the surprising part of it,

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Speaker 2: is where was it and why didn't you know all

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Speaker 6: You know, I felt like I did a really good

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Speaker 6: me out tremendously. But you know, at the end of

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Speaker 6: the day, you know, we're so blessed to be able

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Speaker 6: to play this game. So every snap we get is

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Speaker 6: a complete blessing. And you know that's something that I

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Speaker 6: was mentioning to the guys in the huddle while we

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Speaker 6: were down, like where else.

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Speaker 5: Would you rather be?

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Speaker 6: So I feel like, you know, we did a great job,

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Speaker 2: We'll get two phone calls coming up eight seven to

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Speaker 2: The Dan Patrick Show. We had phone issues yesterday and

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Speaker 2: I said, if you want a call in today best

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Speaker 2: and worst of the weekend, then we'll do that on

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Speaker 2: a Tuesday. Reggie in South Carolina leads us off second

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Speaker 7: What's going on, man, I just want to talk about

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Speaker 7: them Indianapolis coach man coming down the whole rocket, showing

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Speaker 7: them Dolphins down man. Yes, Sir, Daniel Jones QB rating

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Speaker 7: one sixteen man resurrect.

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Speaker 2: Alrighty, Reg. I didn't expect Reg calling in and Daniel

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Speaker 2: Jones shout out QBR Yes, Marvin.

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Speaker 8: Reggie sounds a lot like James in Virginia. He's not

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Speaker 8: gonna fool me. You're not gonna fool me.

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Speaker 2: Twice Reggie, Josh and San Antonio, Good morning, Josh.

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Speaker 4: What's on your mind?

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Speaker 9: What's up Dan?

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Speaker 10: Longtime listener here. I just wanted to kind of go

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Speaker 10: off the board here.

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Speaker 11: I always enjoy your interviews with two receivers, in particular

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Speaker 11: my man Michael Irvin and Steve Smith eighty nine, and

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Speaker 11: I just wanted to throw my hat in the ring

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Speaker 11: and you can join the bandwagon. Can we start the

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Speaker 11: campaign to get Steve Smith Soior into the Hall of Fame?

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Speaker 4: Because there are.

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Speaker 11: Very there's a short list of receivers that I would

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Speaker 11: draft that I know that I could go to in

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Speaker 11: crunch time that's going to be a dog in big games,

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Speaker 11: and Steve Smith Senior is.

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Speaker 4: Right at the top of that.

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Speaker 11: He was a triple Crown winner after breaking his leg

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Speaker 11: the season before. He played big time minutes and he

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Speaker 11: knew you could always come on him down the stretch.

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Speaker 2: Well, he certainly helped Cam that rookie year because he

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Speaker 2: was whenever Cam needed to bail out, somebody to bail

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Speaker 2: him out. Steve Smith was wonderful, but I'd have to

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Speaker 2: look at the numbers. I think he got overshadowed certainly

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Speaker 2: playing with Cam. But he played in the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 2: and Steve was tough, really really tough guy. Let's see

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Speaker 2: Bill in Tampa. Hi, Bill, what's on your mind?

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Speaker 12: Good morning, DP and dan Esh. We've got two bets

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Speaker 12: of the weekend, A comment and a question, if I

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Speaker 12: may right. My first best is too and oh usf Bothie.

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Speaker 12: They are no cream buffs. My second is Tommy DeVito

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Speaker 12: getting a progressive commercial, and now that he's in New England,

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Speaker 12: maybe we could start calling him Tommy klam Stouder.

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Speaker 4: Right, Thank you, Bill, Yes you see that's pretty funny commercial.

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Speaker 4: Yeah I have.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's Tommy clam Chatter, but I

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Speaker 2: always thought Tommy Salami was going to be a great one,

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Speaker 2: but nobody went with that.

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Speaker 4: It was Tommy Cutler's. I don't know how about Tommy

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Speaker 4: clam Chatter. I love that. That's the best joke of

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Speaker 4: the week, best joke of the month. How about Tommy clamchowder.

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Speaker 2: Gregg in North Carolina? How about Tommy lobster.

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Speaker 10: Kittyp I got my best and worst of the week,

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Speaker 10: Best of the week, and you touched on this a

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Speaker 10: lot already, as JJ McCarthy last night.

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Speaker 13: Went into the season kind of wondering why they'd give

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Speaker 10: And I think we got to see a little bit

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Speaker 10: of that last night. Worse of the week was definitely

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Speaker 10: the Browns went into the season with no expectation whatsoever,

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Speaker 10: and defense looked really good.

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Speaker 13: Thought we had a chance to win that game, and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was.

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Speaker 2: I thought the Browns were going to win that game,

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Speaker 2: because I mean, why not everything that's happened in the

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Speaker 4: And they should have won that game.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you shut down what is supposed to be

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Speaker 2: maybe the best offense in football or the best passing

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Speaker 2: and still couldn't you know they pulled out a win.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's what's amazing. Brown's defense played really well.

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Speaker 2: But do you have that opportunity? I don't even know

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Speaker 2: if I'm sure the Browns want to win, But do

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Speaker 2: they really really want to win? If you're a Browns fan,

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Speaker 2: are you hoping that they were bad and then maybe

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Speaker 2: you're you're gonna get a quarterback?

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Speaker 4: Yes, Marvin.

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Speaker 8: This feels like the movie Major League, where the players

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Speaker 8: want to win, but ownership has no interest in winning,

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Speaker 8: so he can get the number one pick.

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Speaker 4: Matt in Utah, Hi, Matt, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 12: Hey? Dan?

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Speaker 14: Just the best the worst of the weekend, and a

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Speaker 14: pilot of face offer. Oh, also five to nine and

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Speaker 14: a hard one sixty Uh, that's the weekend. My Utah

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Speaker 14: Youth's barely skinned by the cow Poly Mustang sixty three

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Speaker 14: to nine. Course of the weekend. My Denver Bronco's barely

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Speaker 14: beating a terrible Titans team. Also for my pilot face,

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Speaker 2: I'm rooting for Utah, so I'm not gonna take you up.

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Speaker 4: Utah is a great program.

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Speaker 2: I don't think you have any takers, Matt, But thank you,

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Speaker 15: Dan, always an honor talk to the Hall of Famer. Hey,

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Speaker 15: The worst of the weekend is sitting down on Saturday

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Speaker 15: Ana Dyne name Dan was listening to your show. It's

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Speaker 4: Thank you Nick Todd.

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Speaker 5: For every worst side, there's the best side. It's just

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Speaker 3: And it happened on Cal Ripkin's record streak for the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we got like some VHS tape thanks for your

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Speaker 2: Maybe it was a VHS tape of that for our

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I was supposed to get something after

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Speaker 4: Yes, ton, I got it.

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Speaker 4: Now, I got that.

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Speaker 2: A VHS tape. I can't even find a VHS machine

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Speaker 4: Yay. Well, we have to buy gifts for a lot

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Speaker 2: A bunch of no because ESPN carried it and that

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Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, man, did you watch the game? I said, yeah, hey, Youah,

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Speaker 16: Yes, Oh, well, so I was actually at the game

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Speaker 16: Dan this weekend, I went, uh Eagles Cowboys to Orioles

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Speaker 2: We got some really strange gifts. But I remember a

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Speaker 2: How are you Tommy? Yes, Todd, And.

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Speaker 3: Then the other awkward part is you already don't want

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Speaker 5: Do you want anything something? I got to hit the restroom.

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Speaker 2: I haven't mastered that very often. I'm bad that. You know,

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Speaker 4: Yes, Tod, I'll.

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Speaker 5: Usually go with you. I'm gonna go make the rounds.

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Speaker 3: I got some people want to go say hi to

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Speaker 2: But then then my wife goes, did you ever think

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Speaker 2: How about we take a break here speaking of the Mothership.

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Speaker 2: One of the great writers there seth Wickersham. He's got

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Speaker 2: another book out, guaranteed to be a New York Times bestseller.

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Speaker 2: It's about the evolution of the quarterback. He'll join us

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Speaker 2: coming up next, Dan Patrick Show.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan

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Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific

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Speaker 17: Hey, what's up everybody? It's me three time pro bowler

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Speaker 17: Levarrington and I couldn't be more excited to announce a

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Speaker 4: What is Up on Game?

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Speaker 17: You ass along with my fellow pro bowler TJ. Huschman

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Speaker 17: Zada and Super Bowl champion Yup. That's right, Plexico Burris.

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Speaker 17: You can only name a show with that type of

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Speaker 17: sharing our real life experiences loaded with teachable moments. Listen

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Speaker 2: The book is called American Kings, A Biography of the Quarterback,

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Speaker 2: and you'll find it on bookshelves today. Seth Wickersham, senior

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Speaker 2: writer for The Mothership, author of New York Times bestseller

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Speaker 2: It's Better to Be Feared, the Patriots Dynasty, and the

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Speaker 2: to see again, Seth, I had a random thought late

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Speaker 4: Was there a line of Demo Arcasian in your memory?

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Speaker 9: What's up, man, It's good to see you. You know

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Speaker 9: And as I get into in the book, it's it's

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Speaker 2: Uh, And the book deals with high school college NFL retirement.

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Speaker 2: Thompson kind of said you could see it with Joe

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Speaker 9: Well, I mean, so quarterback is such a unique job

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Speaker 9: And so I think that like to survive. You know,

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Speaker 9: what one interested me most about Elway was that he

439
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Speaker 9: was the first quarterback who was number one out of

440
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Speaker 9: high school, first pick in the draft, first ballot, Hall

441
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Speaker 9: of Famer, and you have to hardwire yourself in a

442
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Speaker 9: particular way to survive that Winnowing and to pull that

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Speaker 9: off and to live up to expectation, and he did it.

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Speaker 9: And so the entire look at Elway was like what

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Speaker 9: it did to him. And I think that like the sadness,

446
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 9: that the wistfulness that you talk about with Montana was

447
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Speaker 9: with him too. I mean, I think that like he

448
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:09,919
Speaker 9: dealt with that, and I think it's one of the

449
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,439
Speaker 9: reasons why he jumped back in and became general manager

450
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 9: of the Broncos is because look, he needed to reinvent

451
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Speaker 9: himself and but he also went back to what he

452
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Speaker 9: knew best. And I think that there are some painful moments,

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Speaker 9: you know, in that in that process that we get

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Speaker 9: into in the book.

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Speaker 2: You look at the quarterback now and everything funnels through them,

456
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Speaker 2: their celebrities, but you go back to what it was

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Speaker 2: it Bob Bob Waterfield, Oh yeah, Was he the first

458
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Speaker 2: celebrit because he married Jane Russell, famous actress? Was he

459
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Speaker 2: the first that this was before Demigio and Marilyn Monroe?

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Speaker 4: I think?

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Speaker 2: And but was was he the first or that's the

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Speaker 2: first celebrity couple that we had.

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Speaker 9: I mean they were, yeah, they were friends with Demaggio

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Speaker 9: and Marilyn Monroe ironically, but on Yeah, So from the

465
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 9: moment the forward pass was legalized in college football in

466
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Speaker 9: nineteen oh six, you know, I wanted to look at

467
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Speaker 9: like how fast it took until it became this thing

468
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Speaker 9: that our country kind of mythologized and celebrated, And it

469
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Speaker 9: happened a lot faster than I thought. And Waterfield was

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Speaker 9: kind of the first culmination of that. So he for

471
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Speaker 9: people who don't know, you know, he was a star

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Speaker 9: at UCLA, got drafted by the Cleveland Rams in nineteen

473
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Speaker 9: forty five. He wins MVP, they win an NFL championship.

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Speaker 9: He's married to Jane Russell, who's the world's biggest or

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Speaker 9: at least the country's biggest pin up star at the time,

476
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Speaker 9: and the owner of the Cleveland Rams. Dan Reeves is

477
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Speaker 9: basically like, I got to take advantage of this this power.

478
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Speaker 9: I mean, you're talking about the Golden Age of Hollywood.

479
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Speaker 9: And for that and a few other reasons, he moves

480
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Speaker 9: the team to Los Angeles, and you know that was

481
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Speaker 9: a huge moment in the idea of a quarterback like

482
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Speaker 9: Bob Waterfield kind of looked like James Dean before there

483
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 9: was such a thing as James Dean, And you know,

484
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Speaker 9: their celebrity became a huge thing. I mean, the the

485
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Speaker 9: parties at their house, I get into them at the book,

486
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Speaker 9: but I mean the parties at their house that you know,

487
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 9: overlooked the valley were legendary because it was this collision

488
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Speaker 9: of football in Hollywood. Like Pete Roselle was an intern

489
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Speaker 9: for the Rams at that time, and he talked about

490
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Speaker 9: how like one of the high moments of his career,

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Speaker 9: at least his young career, was just being invited to

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Speaker 9: their house and seeing the spectacle that it was.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Seth Wickershamy ESPN Senior writer and the new

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Speaker 2: book American Kings, A Biography of the Quarterback, the most

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Speaker 2: important quarterback in NFL history is whom.

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Speaker 9: I mean, they're all kind of culturally descendant of Johnny

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Speaker 9: Unidis and Joe Namath, So you know, you have to

498
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Speaker 9: kind of think about one of those two guys. I think,

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Speaker 9: but know, I'd probably go with Naymeath more than any

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Speaker 9: more than Uniteds because name is kind of he He

501
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 9: not only had kind of evolved Unitis in the sense

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Speaker 9: that like he was calling his own plays and he

503
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Speaker 9: looked at the job as kind of a field general,

504
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Speaker 9: but he was the first one, you know, to offer

505
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Speaker 9: quarterback as lifestyle. I mean he told boys, you know,

506
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Speaker 9: and girls everywhere that like this is what throwing a

507
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Speaker 9: football well can get you. And I mean he scared

508
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Speaker 9: people to death. He scared people to death with his moxy,

509
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Speaker 9: with his release, with his attitude. And there was a

510
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Speaker 9: moment later late in the book where I'm with Joe

511
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Speaker 9: and I ask him, like, look, having been through everything

512
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Speaker 9: you've been through as this American, you know, luminary, is

513
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Speaker 9: it worth it? Like would you rather be a quarterback

514
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Speaker 9: or would you would rather have done anything else? And

515
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Speaker 9: his answer was really really interesting. What did he say, Oh,

516
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Speaker 9: you know, I have to have to help have a

517
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Speaker 9: little bit of a fingers, like you know. I think

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Speaker 9: the most interesting thing was that it was something that,

519
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Speaker 9: like I asked him, it had surprised him, but you

520
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 9: could tell that it was something that he had actually

521
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Speaker 9: spent some time thinking about because you know, he experienced

522
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Speaker 9: a lot. I mean, he experienced unbelievable highs, some unbelievable lows,

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Speaker 9: and you know a lot of physical pain also obviously, Yeah, and.

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Speaker 2: He was a celebrity. I didn't think Joe was a

525
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Speaker 2: great quarterback. I think he he fit the character. He

526
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Speaker 2: looked at the hair. You know, the Beatles were big.

527
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Speaker 2: He had that haircut. He and the fur code, the

528
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Speaker 2: white shoes. The greatest released quarterback has ever unveiled. But

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Speaker 2: he was he had a bar the commissioner told him to.

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Speaker 2: You know, he had to Bachelor's three. I mean, there

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Speaker 2: was a lot of stuff going on with Joe in

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Speaker 2: New York and then through all the women in there

533
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Speaker 2: as well, and well.

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Speaker 9: Well and Johnny Uniteds was kind of like bedrock nineteen

535
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Speaker 9: fifties establishment, and Joe Namath was rebellion. And even though

536
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Speaker 9: you know he wasn't a rock star, he kind of

537
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Speaker 9: looked like one, even more than a quarterback. I mean

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Speaker 9: he was kind of hunched over and you know he

539
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Speaker 9: he like I said, you know, he was the first

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Speaker 9: to offer it his lifestyle, and I think that, like

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Speaker 9: his influence in the zeitgeist is so big, and.

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Speaker 4: I'm you're right.

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Speaker 9: I mean, you know, look, he didn't he didn't have

544
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 9: like a great career in a lot of ways. But

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Speaker 9: when you're talking about the pantheon of American men who

546
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Speaker 9: have like influenced culture, he's part of it. And you know,

547
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Speaker 9: he's up there with some very very very famous Americans.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I like in Johnny unit As, he was right out

550
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Speaker 2: of Mayberry or Leave It to Beaver, and Namath was

551
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Speaker 2: Fonsie on happy days. He was just he was the

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Speaker 2: cool guy, leather, leather jacket. It's great talking to you again.

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Speaker 2: I wish you well with the book. And have you

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Speaker 2: talked to Bill Belichick recently?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 9: My gosh, no, But you know, I think they're going

557
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 9: to figure things out there. And I think that, like,

558
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Speaker 9: you know, look, he's changed a lot, and and you know,

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Speaker 9: our impression of him has changed a lot in the

560
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Speaker 9: past couple of years, and I think that, like in

561
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Speaker 9: talking to people close to him, I think you can't

562
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Speaker 9: underestimate how pissed he is at the way that things

563
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 9: ended in New England. Not just that he was kind

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Speaker 9: of you know that that he didn't end on his

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Speaker 9: terms exactly, but just you know the Dynasty docuseries and

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Speaker 9: what that did to his reputation. You know how Don

567
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Speaker 9: Vanatta and Jeremy Fowler and I reported that Robert Kraft,

568
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Speaker 9: you know, didn't do him any favors when he was

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Speaker 9: trying to get back in the league after the Patriots

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Speaker 9: let him go. Oh I'm sorry. After there was a

571
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Speaker 9: mutual party. And you know, I think that, like, you know,

572
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Speaker 9: the news that came out last week about you know,

573
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Speaker 9: banning the Scouts is not just notable in the sense

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Speaker 9: that you know the guy and hold a grudge, but

575
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Speaker 9: it's also that he's willing to be so public with it.

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Speaker 9: And I think that is so much different than the

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Speaker 9: Bill Belichick that we know. I mean, this is a

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Speaker 9: guy who, I think, as much as anybody in American

579
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Speaker 9: public life the past twenty years, has been careful with

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Speaker 9: his words and chosen his words carefully. And we're seeing

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Speaker 9: a little bit of a different Bill now. And you know,

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Speaker 9: it's it's fascinating to watch the vapor trail from the dynasty,

583
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 9: not the docu sries, but just the dynasty with the

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Speaker 9: greatness they accomplished, continues to to you know, really continues

585
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Speaker 9: to this day.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But who should be more upset with their exit? Brady

588
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Speaker 2: or Belichick? With the Patriots? I mean Tom got embarrassed.

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Speaker 9: Who should be more? Yeah, Well, you know Tom, you know,

590
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 9: he won, you know, he won the narrative forever, and

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00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 9: you know, whether he wanted to or not. And I

592
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 9: think that like obviously he wanted to prove that there

593
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Speaker 9: is a different way to win, and see if there

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00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 9: is a different way to win. But you know, I

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00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 9: think that like the stuff that's happened between Belichick and Craft,

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00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 9: you know, look, Belichick and Brady are in a good place.

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00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 9: Like you know, these guys are never going to be

598
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Speaker 9: spit in your palm pals, but you know they're in

599
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 9: a good place in terms of their relationship. I think

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Speaker 9: it's going to take a lot of work for the

601
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Speaker 9: relationship between Robert Craft and Bill Belichick to you know,

602
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Speaker 9: be in a good place if that ever happens.

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Speaker 4: Good luck with the book. Great to catch up with

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Speaker 4: you again. Thank you, Seth.

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Speaker 9: Thanks man.

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Speaker 2: Great to see you, Seth Wickersham. The book is out today.

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Speaker 2: It's called American King's a Biography of the quarterback. It's

608
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Speaker 2: a life cycle. It looks at the high school, college,

609
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Speaker 2: NFL and then retirement of some of the great quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: of all time. Well take a break, phone calls coming up,

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Speaker 2: and it's going to be rhyme time with Fritzie.

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Speaker 4: It is back after this.

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Speaker 2: There hasn't been a no hitter in Major League Baseball

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Speaker 2: this season. Last full season without a no no was

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Speaker 2: two thousand and five, but it was on this date

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Speaker 2: in nineteen sixty five Sandy Kofax through his fourth career

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Speaker 2: no hitter and first perfect game in a win against

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Speaker 2: the Cubs. Marvin asked a question during the commercial break,

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Speaker 2: the most famous quarterback when you were growing up? And

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Speaker 2: I would probably say Joe Namath was famous, but it

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Speaker 2: was it was different because he wasn't the best quarterback.

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Speaker 2: I thought Lenny Dawson was a better quarterback. But what

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Speaker 2: Joe did and what he did in New York, and

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Speaker 2: he did it for the Jets, and he won the

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Speaker 2: super Bowl and the big underdog, and he's such a

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Speaker 2: nice person too, And he just had charisma. He had

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Speaker 2: it when you're wearing white shoes, like you you better

632
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 2: be really good. And he had long hair and he

633
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 2: wore like this big fur coat on the sidelines when

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Speaker 2: he was injured for a game. He played at Shay

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Speaker 2: terrible field. But oh what a release gosh. I think

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Speaker 2: it might be the you know, if you're looking at

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Speaker 2: pure quarterback throwing it.

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Speaker 4: He made it look effortless.

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Speaker 2: So I would say him Bart's Starr because he was

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Speaker 2: with the Packers and they were winning championships, they won

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Speaker 2: Super Bowls. Johnny Unitis, he was a little bit before

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Speaker 2: my time, but I would say those guys in the

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Speaker 2: late sixties, early seventies, and your quarterback back then, wasn't

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00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 2: somebody throwing thirty touchdowns Bart's Starr, Bob Greasy. They weren't,

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Speaker 2: you know, stat stuffers. They weren't going to put up

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Speaker 2: incredible numbers there. But they back then, being a field general,

647
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 2: they would call it. They were field generals. Joe Fisman

648
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 2: became famous. Uh he was a celebrity of sorts, and

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Speaker 2: then he was dating who was he dating on that show?

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Speaker 5: Ton Oh like believe it or not?

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Speaker 12: Do something like that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Kathy Lee Crossey.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, he was a celebrity. But I don't know

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Speaker 2: if did you have a quarterback growing up where you go?

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Speaker 2: Roger Staubach was another one who lives who became because

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Speaker 2: he was the Cowboys quarterback and he had been in

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Speaker 2: the military and Naval Academy, Heisman Trophy winner. He was

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Speaker 2: something special. You know, those were the first ones that

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Speaker 2: I came across, Yes, Marvin.

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Speaker 8: For me, it's probably Dan Marino. Yeah, I saw him

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Speaker 8: first in the movie ace Ventura Pet Detective.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I didn't know.

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Speaker 8: He was a real quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Dylan, did you have one? I mean, for me, it

665
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Speaker 4: was really like Brady and Peyton Manning.

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Speaker 16: Okay that their prime was sort of when I was

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Speaker 16: in my youth.

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Speaker 18: You uh, well, it was a big Dann Marino fan.

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Speaker 18: But if when you asked me the most famous quarterback

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Speaker 18: from when I was young, it would have been Phil Simms.

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Speaker 4: Okay, he was you know Jersey.

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Speaker 18: The Giants. We were on a run. You know, Phil

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Speaker 18: Simms was like as big as it got.

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Speaker 4: Todd.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was always big on the Cowboys Steelers, so

676
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 3: like Starback and Bradshaw. But again, the one that I

677
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,760
Speaker 3: really felt like, like what Martin was saying, Dan Marino

678
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Speaker 3: for me, was like the first tie with the curly

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Speaker 3: hair and the tan and the good.

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Speaker 2: One he did the is Toner glove commercial. Yeah, then

681
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Speaker 2: he you know when he's playing himself in the movie

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Speaker 2: with Jim Carrey, all right, time to do rhyme. Time,

683
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Speaker 2: Todd give us gets get the rules. Let everybody know

684
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Speaker 2: how to play rhyme time.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you a pair of clues. The answer,

686
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Speaker 3: the words are rhymes there one word answer is that

687
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Speaker 3: rhyme with each other.

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Speaker 5: So it'll be like we did. Bengal Broadcast Award was

689
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Speaker 5: Burrow Morrow. That's how the game go.

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Speaker 2: Here we go Groin NBC's Melissa Clark Stark Clark Star.

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Speaker 5: Kaitlin Clark bottling that growing injury and Mossa Stark.

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Speaker 3: Of course, buccaneer pretender, buccaneer, Baker, Baker Faker. Now we're

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Speaker 3: on a roll here, Pats leader capable, Pat's leader.

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Speaker 8: Capable, Abel Abel Abel, Here you go.

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Speaker 5: Wow, you guys are banging these out.

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Speaker 3: Okay, state head, married with children, Gundy, Bundy, Gundee Bundy,

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Speaker 3: Red Sox Great Tennis Champ, Red Sox Great Tennis Champ.

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Speaker 5: I think of current tennis great players, number eight with Boston.

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Speaker 2: Karis Stremsky and who was what they call college, Yes,

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Speaker 2: who's a great tennis player these days?

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Speaker 19: Al Kaz Alcoraz a rhyme, Yes, Alcoraz car protector, he

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Speaker 19: car protector, m's bat car protector, m's bat bumper dumper.

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Speaker 5: That's what it is.

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00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 3: Buck Eye Land hint buck eye land hint.

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00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 5: Another word for a hint, shoe clue, the horseshoe clu.

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Speaker 5: I got a few more here. Longhorn, Madness, Longhorn madness,

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Speaker 5: Arch March, Arch March. This is how it works. Sweetness

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Speaker 5: Dodger for Paul Sweetness Dodger.

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Speaker 20: Peyton Clayton, Peyton Clayton, Rains NBC, Rains, NBC. It was

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Speaker 20: Tim Rain's nickname Rock NBC thirty peacock, Rock Peacock.

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Speaker 5: Okay, we got three more. I think we can get

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Speaker 5: him in Irving, our friend.

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Speaker 3: Irving seven, Irving seven, the man they call seven Irving

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Speaker 3: from our show, Irving seven. Lay say, oh way, Leader,

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Speaker 3: I can't do the pronunce.

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Speaker 4: I can't do it. Michael Irvin.

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Speaker 18: I was thinking, I'm like Michael and Michael Vick, Michael Michael,

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Speaker 18: but it was not.

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Speaker 4: It was Irving.

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Speaker 3: Leader, Aristotle, Leader, Aristotle, Shaq dak Jack.

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Speaker 5: Shaq would be Leader Aristotle dak Shack.

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Speaker 3: The last one is Let's ride Flex, Let's ride flex.

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Speaker 8: Russell Mussel, Russell Musco a minute and a half to

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Speaker 8: spare John.

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Speaker 4: I like the way you did those clues. They were

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Speaker 4: a little they were a little off. They weren't.

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Speaker 18: Some of them were pretty on the nose, but some

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Speaker 18: of them it took you a minute to get there.

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Speaker 4: That was good. H Terry and Tennessee, morning Terry. What's

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Speaker 4: on your mind today?

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Speaker 12: Hey?

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Speaker 21: What's up Van?

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Speaker 4: How you doing good?

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Speaker 21: Hey man, I got to give you props for props

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Speaker 21: to do. You've made great recommendations on those for Drum

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Speaker 21: and those my Father's and if you hadn't tried the

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Speaker 21: new my Father's Blue, you'll love It's that's price pointed

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Speaker 21: by twelve bucks.

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Speaker 12: You'll love it.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Terry.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, those are cigars if you can't get Cuban cigars,

742
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 2: and they're even tougher to get now. The Padrone Anniversary

743
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Speaker 2: series is always great and my father a nice price point,

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Speaker 2: you know, maybe ten dollars, eleven dollars, twelve dollars, great cigar.

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Speaker 2: And I have no affiliation with, you know, any of

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Speaker 2: these cigars. I'm just telling you that if i'm smoking,

747
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Speaker 2: I usually have my Father, but the Padrone Anniversary that's

748
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Speaker 2: more expensive, but that's a great cigar. Never had a

749
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Speaker 2: bad Padrone. Now, if you give me a Hoyot demonaey,

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Speaker 2: I'll smoke that. That's a great cigar or boulevar. There's

751
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:57,760
Speaker 2: there's quite a few of them. If you smoke cigars

752
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Speaker 2: and drink tequila, Ford Eliza is the great tequila you

753
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 2: can't get anymore. For some reason, everybody started buying it

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00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 2: up or they stopped making it.

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Speaker 4: Enough, let the secrets out. Damn all right. Two hours

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Speaker 4: in the books, One more to go, Fritzie's Seaton, Marv

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Speaker 4: Dylan and Yours Truly