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Speaker 1: Warning, Today's episode contains spoilers four twenty eight years later,

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Speaker 1: the latest edition in the twenty eight years in the

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Speaker 1: twenty eight later franchise, Hello, my name is Jason gets

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Speaker 3: In today's episode, the Scream Queens Common and Joela joining

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Speaker 3: us for our roundtable discussion of twenty eight years late.

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Speaker 2: Joel in Common, how are you doing.

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Speaker 3: I'm good, glad to be here, fabulous, Yes, very excited

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Speaker 3: to talk to you about this. And then this is

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Speaker 2: Ready as it is that you guys know.

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Speaker 3: We will attempt to come to a consensus on the

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Speaker 3: on the I'm not saying Mount Rushmore because I hate

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Speaker 3: Mount Mushmore, so on the on the best of horror

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Speaker 3: movie sequels, what are the best?

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Speaker 1: On the medal podium?

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Speaker 3: On the metal podium of horror movie sequels, what are

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Speaker 3: your top three?

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Speaker 2: What gets gold, what gets silver? Worth gets bronze?

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Speaker 1: And what gets to stand next to the podium and

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Speaker 1: be like I should be up there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly right.

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Speaker 4: What's the fourth one that we just live on the

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Speaker 2: Commen, what did you think of twenty eight years later?

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Speaker 5: Oh my godnes Well, first of all, thank you for

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Speaker 5: giving me the floor first, because I do have a

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Speaker 5: lot to say about this movie. This was I think

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Speaker 5: the out of all the movies I've seen so far

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Speaker 5: this year, this has been the movie that has been

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Speaker 5: the most thought provoking for me in the sense that

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Speaker 5: I can't stop thinking about it and I really want

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Speaker 5: people to go see it because I really need to

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Speaker 5: talk to people about it, and that's always a hallmark

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Speaker 5: of a great movie for me. I don't know about y'all,

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Speaker 5: but first of all, I was my whole experience for

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Speaker 5: the first half of the movie. I was squirming in

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Speaker 5: my seat. I was peeking through my fingers I was

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Speaker 5: doing all of that. I was terrified. They really did

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Speaker 5: a good job once we went to the mainland of

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Speaker 5: the island of like really ratcheting up the tension.

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Speaker 6: But the things I really.

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Speaker 5: Loved about the movie were just a lot of the

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Speaker 5: same things I loved about the original movie, with kind

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Speaker 5: of some of the concepts of the second movie kind

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Speaker 5: of blended together in my opinion. So the things that

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Speaker 5: reminded me of the first movie that I really really

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Speaker 5: loved were the camera work. I thought the camera work

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Speaker 3: We have really unique, like no one else is doing

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Speaker 5: All of the action scenes were using multiple different angles

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Speaker 5: as we're kind of looking at like the violence on screen,

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Speaker 5: and it really added like this kind of just erraticness

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Speaker 5: to watching those scenes. And also the soundtrack. I really

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Speaker 5: really loved the soundtrack. Again, I didn't love the soundtracks, yes,

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Speaker 5: and I didn't, you know, love the soundtrack as much

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Speaker 5: in the second film, but in this movie, it really

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Speaker 5: felt like they had done like a return to form here,

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Speaker 6: One of the things that I really.

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Speaker 5: Thought was cool about the soundtrack and sound design was

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Speaker 5: that when our characters are relaxing and they're not under

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 5: I have to say, like, for me, the reason I

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Speaker 5: and they used the dad in a way that I

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Speaker 2: Series hates dads.

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Speaker 7: I know, well, yeah, we get a really good dies horrifically, Yes,

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Speaker 7: it's all about bad dads.

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Speaker 3: But I think like once it's almost like once the

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Speaker 5: It's very interesting, yes, And so I think for me,

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Speaker 5: the movie is really thrive when there's a bad dad

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Speaker 5: in the second movie, we have the zombie dad constantly

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Speaker 5: in this movie, the dad doesn't ever become a zombie,

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Speaker 5: but he is actually kind of worse than.

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Speaker 2: The zombies, you know, the true villain of the movie.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, he's the He is the antagonist for Spike, surely.

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Speaker 5: And I think for me that these movies are at

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Speaker 5: of felt like, humh, they're kind of like keeping up

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Speaker 5: genre was at first, I felt like the variants were

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Speaker 5: probably inspired by like more recent like zombie video game lore.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the Last of Us.

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Speaker 5: there's a lot I can say about this movie, but

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Speaker 5: I really fucking loved it and I want to see

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I would love to see it again as well. Joelle,

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Speaker 8: Deeply fucking weird, which is like in the best possible way,

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Speaker 8: like in the way that's just like in the theater,

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Speaker 8: I was sitting there and I was elementary. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 8: Like it's so surreal. There's a ton of They like

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Speaker 8: And repeated actions, right, And something I think is so

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Speaker 8: interesting about this film, Like it's clearly about Brexit and isolation, isolationism,

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Speaker 8: you get a lot of like high angles on people

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Speaker 3: Early days of having the kind of CCTV that could

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Speaker 8: And then in the second one, it's so military heavy

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Speaker 8: such a creepy, like subversive way to approach a series

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 8: If the first ones are sort of like our responses

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Speaker 8: this might actually just be we It's really it's like

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Speaker 8: the pitfalls, like the obstacles. You know, every zombie movie

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Speaker 8: The gas station scene is gonna stick with me forever.

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Speaker 8: I loved it, just the floating gas in the room,

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Speaker 8: And it's just like this is such a great, fun,

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Speaker 8: imaginative sequence that deals in like real world consequences of

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Speaker 9: All of it. I loved this movie. I liked it

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Speaker 3: I think that you touch on something that's like really

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Speaker 3: The tree was like one hundred and fifty years old,

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Speaker 3: Because that tree, which was one hundred and fifty years

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Speaker 3: I also think there's something very interesting there about like

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Speaker 3: and the choices that humans make that just like selfish choices. Act.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a yeah, sorry, go ahead, no, no, go for it,

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Speaker 1: go for it, I was gonna say. I think uh.

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Speaker 1: I really responded to that too as well, Joelle, And

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Speaker 1: I think for me it was interesting to me how

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Speaker 1: part of this the experience of this film for me

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Speaker 1: was this idea that humans are kind of the side

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Speaker 1: show mm hmm. On in England, on the on the

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Speaker 1: islands that were formerly known as the UK, it's real

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Speaker 1: nature is king once again. The infected are part of

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Speaker 1: this kind of like natural landscape that includes like you know,

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Speaker 1: the prehistoric ages and people are just kind of one

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Speaker 1: The other thing I've been thinking a lot, a lot

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Speaker 8: come to fruition. I have a feeling it's going to

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Speaker 8: do great the first week, and then people will be like,

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Speaker 8: I don't get it and be confused by it.

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Speaker 9: No, I think that yeah because I think yeah.

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Speaker 8: Like because because it's strange, it might be hard for

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Speaker 8: some people to connect to. But then also there's I

448
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Speaker 8: don't want to say a lack of violence overall. They

449
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Speaker 8: have the zombies there there, there's some cool sequences, but

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Speaker 8: it is not the Bang bang, shoot them up, run

451
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Speaker 8: giant hoards, blood everywhere, like.

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Speaker 9: Vibes of the past.

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Speaker 4: Too.

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Speaker 8: It's different, I think in all of the best ways,

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Speaker 8: and with keeping the tone and like affection that those

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Speaker 8: other films had for the genre. Like it's all still there,

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Speaker 8: but it's displayed very differently. And I wonder if, like

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Speaker 8: your average Joe doesn't I think the cinema under if

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Speaker 8: you're on like a letterbox sort of situation. I think

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Speaker 8: that crew is going to be into it, but I

461
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Speaker 8: just what I'm worried the jet Pop's gonna be like,

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Speaker 8: I don't get this weird arty film.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I mean I think how hot? How low do

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Speaker 3: you think? I think it's good enough that the cinema school.

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Speaker 3: The lowest is going to get is going to be

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Speaker 3: like a c I don't think.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I would be shocked.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that would be shocking. Yeah yeah, Okay, Calmin, what

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Speaker 2: do you think?

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Speaker 5: I think it. I think it'll get a bee. I

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Speaker 5: I feel pretty good about it. I've heard, you know,

472
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Speaker 5: people are really confused about the ending. But I do

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Speaker 5: want to say, as the average.

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Speaker 2: I'm so excited to talk about that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, as the average cinemager, you know person.

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Speaker 6: I loved it. I had a lot of fun watching it.

477
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Speaker 5: I didn't fully understand it until I started talking to

478
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Speaker 5: you guys about it, because Jason knows a lot more

479
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Speaker 5: about world history than I do, Rosie knows a lot

480
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Speaker 5: more about UK history than I do, and so I

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Speaker 5: think as an American who is kind of like not

482
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Speaker 5: as tuned into those things as as everyone else, some

483
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Speaker 5: of that stuff went over my head. But then after

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Speaker 5: I underst stood it, I was like, oh, that makes

485
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Speaker 5: this is like so it's like you know, Galaxy brain.

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Speaker 6: I was like, whoa, you know, Like, this is amazing.

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Speaker 5: So I think it's gonna be one of those movies

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Speaker 5: that might be like kind of like a Bee at first,

489
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Speaker 5: but then over time people are really gonna be like, Wow,

490
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Speaker 5: this is an amazing movie because it is such an

491
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Speaker 5: art house movie for a horror movie, and even if

492
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Speaker 5: you don't understand what's going on, you can appreciate the

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Speaker 5: kind of craftsmanship that went into making a movie. You know.

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Speaker 3: Well, let's let's talk a bit more about that after

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Speaker 3: we go to a quick break from our sponsor's hell

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Speaker 3: oil company.

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Speaker 1: We're back, We're back. Let's talk about the cast in

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Speaker 1: this because incredible cast. First of all, I was a

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Speaker 1: little worried initially that I was like, is Jody Comer

500
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Speaker 1: just going to be sick in bed for this entire

501
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 1: It was worrisome, right, and then that's absolutely not know

502
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Speaker 1: what happens and she becomes very ass, kicks ass and becomes,

503
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Speaker 1: you know, kind of like the major emotional catalyst of

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Speaker 1: this film. You know, it's really through her life that

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Speaker 1: we understand what this movie is about. What struck you

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Speaker 1: about any of the performances in this Let's start with you, Carmen.

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Speaker 6: I once again I'm amazed by the child's actors.

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Speaker 9: And Alfie.

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Speaker 6: I thought, yes, Alfie, is that the boy who plays.

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Speaker 5: Spike Williams yea Al Williams plays Spike, and I also

511
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Speaker 5: thought even the opening scene are called open with those

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Speaker 5: that room of little blonde kids.

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Speaker 6: That looked like with you, they did a great job

514
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Speaker 6: freaking a yeah.

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Speaker 1: They looked so authentically scared.

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Speaker 5: The girl was like holding back her tears while she

517
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Speaker 5: was like hearing what was going on. And so I

518
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Speaker 5: was stunned by the child. I'm always when when child

519
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Speaker 5: doctors do an amazing job, I'm like, hell, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 5: But that was the highlight for me, Joelle, what about you, Joelle?

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Speaker 9: As we know, I have number one Aaron Taylor Johnson.

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Speaker 9: Stan this conversation and we were talking a little bit.

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Speaker 8: So Danny was at our screening and she had mentioned

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Speaker 8: like she was looking at billboards and she was like,

525
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Speaker 8: it's so weird to me that, like on the billboards

526
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Speaker 8: you have Alex Garland and Danny Boyle, but not Jodi Comer.

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Speaker 8: Aaron Taylor Johnson now atj has had a string of

528
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Speaker 8: not great movies that he is the lead in, which

529
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Speaker 8: is a problem. But I still think he's a household name.

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Speaker 8: I think like your average parent is like I remember

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Speaker 8: Erir Taylor Johnson.

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Speaker 9: I know that kid. To not put him on the

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Speaker 9: poster at all.

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Speaker 3: Now, no, no, no, this is not I don't think that

535
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Speaker 3: is a reflection of.

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Speaker 2: Either of those actors.

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Speaker 3: I think it is a choice to play into the

538
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Speaker 3: art house nature and this huge moment of these two

539
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Speaker 3: big visionary British creators like working together again and to

540
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Speaker 3: put the focus on that rather than who is in

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Speaker 3: the movie. I don't think it's a Jodi Coma issue,

542
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Speaker 3: or an Aaron Taylor Johnson or a Ray Finds issue.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a I think it's like an artistic

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Speaker 3: choice to be like, hey, the artisans behind this movie

545
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Speaker 3: are the people who are gonna like be why you

546
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Speaker 3: see the movie? Now?

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Speaker 2: Is that true? I think the class should have got

548
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Speaker 2: shout outs, but I think.

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Speaker 3: It's less about their quality and more about like a

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Speaker 3: message that they were trying to put across the creators.

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Speaker 8: Especially if you think about like time on screen, they're

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Speaker 8: pretty like the like the three adult leads, uh share

553
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Speaker 8: about an equal amount of time. So there really is

554
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Speaker 8: no clear like lead other than Alfie, who's.

555
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Speaker 9: You know, an unknown child actor.

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Speaker 8: And so it does make sense to me, and it's

557
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Speaker 8: kind of again I keep saying it, I will keep

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Speaker 8: seeing it. I really think movies are back in a

559
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Speaker 8: way that feels so tangible and real to me. I'm

560
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Speaker 8: like the kids, like, you don't know what going to

561
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Speaker 8: the movies? You selling my father, don't know what going

562
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Speaker 8: through movies? You sound like it's so freaking cool, Like

563
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Speaker 8: you would be there like two or three times a week.

564
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Speaker 8: You have your like weekend warriors, Like just going to

565
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Speaker 8: the movies used to be the it thing, and so like,

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Speaker 8: I love this idea of us continuing to celebrate creators

567
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Speaker 8: all of like an early nineties sort of resurgence of

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Speaker 8: indie film. And I think given the state of the

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Speaker 8: film industry, like that's where a lot of people have

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Speaker 8: been predicting it's going to go, is that we're gonna

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Speaker 8: come back to these like smaller, like artist driven film projects.

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Speaker 8: So that's exciting. But on the actor front, I just

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Speaker 8: listen Aaron Taylor playing a bad dad I thought would

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Speaker 8: end it for me.

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Speaker 9: It didn't.

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Speaker 6: I was still into it.

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Speaker 8: I was like, wow, this is crazy, still hot as hell,

578
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Speaker 8: and it does such a good job. Like I was

579
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Speaker 8: really moved by this performance that he gave.

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Speaker 1: Is so.

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Speaker 9: It's just so like tense and then.

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Speaker 8: Out of control and sort of fearing back and forth

583
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Speaker 8: between those elegantly, you know, not ever really going over

584
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Speaker 8: the top. It's really hard to sort of control like

585
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Speaker 8: out of control on screen. It's a difficult thing for

586
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Speaker 8: an actor to do. And then for Jody Darling, Jody

587
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Speaker 8: like best like awesome, like be out of your mind

588
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Speaker 8: and so convincingly, and then coming back and also doing

589
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Speaker 8: these like really like intense like fight scene, which is

590
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Speaker 8: not like a challenging sequence like we're used to, but

591
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Speaker 8: in the way of like.

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Speaker 9: You guys, fake fighting.

593
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Speaker 8: Is hard, like trying to convincently throw a person's head

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Speaker 8: into a wall. It's really challenging, and she just gives

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Speaker 8: it one hundred and always lands. I just I'm as

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Speaker 8: sounded by not just the performances, but I think the

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Speaker 8: writing of these characters is always so good in this series,

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Speaker 8: Like you're always like even cheating Dad the worst in

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Speaker 8: twenty eight weeks later, I hate him so much that

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Speaker 8: Charter is so intriguing, Like, Wow, this is an actual

601
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Speaker 8: coward who can stand on nothing. He'll lie to to

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Speaker 8: do everything, and then makes the dumbest decision to kiss

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Speaker 8: his wife. You're just like, what, this man is an idiot,

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Speaker 8: But I'm so Intriguedally is as a person that I

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Speaker 8: enjoy following his story.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: Let's okay. Before before we start, then we hit a question.

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Speaker 1: We had the idea of starting a X ray vision.

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Speaker 10: Offshoot called what was the what was the name of

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Speaker 10: Hot Hot Extra Vision Hot topic Patreon only behind a

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Speaker 10: paywall in which we just gossip about stuff.

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Speaker 1: So let me just like in the most put it

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Speaker 1: out there. First of all, I agree with you atj

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Speaker 1: like why he's not a star is fascinating, Like I'm

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Speaker 1: a super handsome guy, incredible actor, like this crazy range.

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Speaker 1: But yes, this is a hard role because he's got

617
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Speaker 1: to be on the one hand, he's got to come

618
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Speaker 1: off initially like oh man, I wish my dad was

619
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Speaker 1: like this, and then he's got to show you the

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Speaker 1: brittleness of this facade that he's putting up, and then

621
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Speaker 1: it's got a crack. And it's in a lot of

622
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Speaker 1: ways an unforgiving role because you realize halfway through his

623
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Speaker 1: performance that like, you hate this guy, and and we're wondering, like, wow, okay,

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Speaker 1: I believe that he's not a star, and I believe

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Speaker 1: that's kind of like I agree that there's like a

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Speaker 1: household man. Now we understand who he is, but I

627
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Speaker 1: do think objectively he's not a star or things like

628
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Speaker 1: you know, Craven wouldn't have happened, you know, not one

629
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Speaker 1: his fault, but there's other things like that. And it

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Speaker 1: struck me that I think part of the missing ingredient

631
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Speaker 1: is and we talked about this before the mics went on,

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Speaker 1: you look at an actor who's this talented, who is

633
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Speaker 1: this good looking. It is so notable to me that

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Speaker 1: he does not have a role in his resume in

635
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Speaker 1: which he falls in love with the with the coast,

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Speaker 1: with the character other character in the story, or they

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Speaker 1: fall in love with him. There's no role that he

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Speaker 1: has played where being in love is part of it,

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Speaker 1: part of that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it seems.

641
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Speaker 1: Like such a hole to me, because that's part of

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Speaker 1: what makes you a star, you know, It's like the

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Speaker 1: Legends of the Fall with you know, for Brad Pitt,

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Speaker 1: it's that kind of thing that like elevates you, even

645
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Speaker 1: if it's it's not like a critically acclaimed movie. It

646
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Speaker 1: widens your appeal. And it's that widening of appeal that

647
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Speaker 1: makes you a star. And I think that's missing for Aaron.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it definitely is an I think my argument would be,

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Speaker 3: and I'm also an Aaron Taylor Johnson stan My argument

650
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Speaker 3: would be where his career is at right now, he

651
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Speaker 3: is more of a really great character actor because whenever

652
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Speaker 3: he shows up in something right like he was in

653
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Speaker 3: he showed up in Tenet, a movie that everybody hated,

654
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Speaker 3: but the moment he showed up, You're like, oh, this

655
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 3: is so interesting and dynamic and like he's basically just

656
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Speaker 3: playing like a military grunt, but you're so interested in

657
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Speaker 3: the way he chooses to play it.

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Speaker 2: And then the same with.

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Speaker 3: Uh oh, he had an absolute breakout character role. Also

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Speaker 3: another very horny role for Aaron because in this he

661
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 3: does he does continue eat out summer as we are

662
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 3: now calling.

663
00:35:58,680 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 2: Sinners.

664
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 3: Ah, everyone should eat out the summer, guys.

665
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 2: In horror movies. We got sinners, we got this movie.

666
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 3: And in nos Varatu, you know, he loves his wife

667
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 3: so much that he like fucks so when she's dead.

668
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 3: I mean, very insane characterracter type performances. And the other

669
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 3: one that I think about a lot is the really

670
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 3: honestly like not great movie The Kingsman, which was like

671
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 3: the third Kingsman movie that's about the King's.

672
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 2: Prequel, The King's man, and it's.

673
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 3: About like and they tried to do like a weird

674
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:37,760
Speaker 3: Avengers style, like yes, it was really bad. In that movie,

675
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 3: Aaron Taylor Johnson shows up no joke, like twenty minutes

676
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 3: and it is the most heartbreaking, unbelievable performance.

677
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 2: It's all about like the horrors of World War One.

678
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 3: I think that when he shows up and gives his all,

679
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 3: he just makes a movie shine. But I have yet

680
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 3: to see a movie that puts him in the lead

681
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 3: that has taken advantage of that ability.

682
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 9: And I think the kick Ass, right, yeah, kick Ass.

683
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 8: He's such a standout like star, there's no there's some

684
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 8: romantic chemistry, but it's not the sort of like sweeping

685
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 8: like grand central part of the plot.

686
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 9: So kind forget yeah their kids exactly and.

687
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 8: So like it's crazy because after seeing that movie, I thought, oh,

688
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 8: for sure, like this guy's got next, Like he's got all.

689
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 9: Of the components. It would behoove him. I think to

690
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,399
Speaker 9: take sort of a sweeping We do have.

691
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 8: Anakarin in a but that movie's not great and for

692
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 8: whatever reason, not sparking.

693
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 2: They do not have a lot of chemistry.

694
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 3: And also it's a very specific like Joe Wright was

695
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 3: really in his like you know.

696
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 2: Yes moment, like.

697
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 3: It's not necessarily about that Aaron Taylor Johnson in a

698
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,240
Speaker 3: rom com Why haven't I seen it? Or it seems

699
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 3: like it would make so much sense apart from when

700
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 3: he was in his whole career began with angus thongs

701
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 3: of full frontal snogging where he was the lead for

702
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 3: romantic Lead.

703
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 2: It was based on an English book Shocked.

704
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: Me, Let Me, Let me just throw something at you,

705
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,240
Speaker 1: Normal People, but it starred Aaron Taylor Johnson.

706
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 9: Oh, I'm unwell.

707
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: Where the role that that made us think there is

708
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 1: some juice.

709
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 3: Okay, because I'm saying if Aaron Taylor Johnson is in

710
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 3: Normal People and he and then Aaron Taylor Johnson gets

711
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 3: crossing Gladiator too, we might have been having a different

712
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 3: discussion about what might.

713
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 2: Have been what might happen to me?

714
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, where is the where's that? Where's the normal people?

715
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: And we are in this kind of era of like

716
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: there's a lot of romance fiction. There's a lot of

717
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: romance like it's.

718
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 11: In a way, yeah it hasn't before, in a way,

719
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 11: where's the story for this, like incredibly fucking guy, It's

720
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 11: a mystery to me what.

721
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 5: About Johnson and Baby Girl.

722
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 9: For the role the controversy Spicy Carmon.

723
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 2: Get out.

724
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say anything else.

725
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 12: I'm not gonna say anything album save for hot topic,

726
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 12: Babe subscribers. Okay, Aaron Johnson he is.

727
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 2: He does give his.

728
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 3: Last big moment as he kind of runs into the

729
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 3: sea and he screams after his son, and you kind

730
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 3: of feel this lot control and you think, wow, this

731
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 3: is such a powerful way to end this really serious movement.

732
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 3: What could ever happened change that smash Cat meet the

733
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:57,800
Speaker 3: Jimmy's Baby. How did you guys feel about the final

734
00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:58,720
Speaker 3: five minutes?

735
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 8: I think I grabbed you and I screening, I was like,

736
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 8: what is screaming?

737
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 6: I was like, what's happening?

738
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 2: What this?

739
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,280
Speaker 9: And you don't know there's a sequel coming?

740
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 2: Like you'd wait, and also like why is it this?

741
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 3: Another connection to Sinners here is that Jack O'Connell stars

742
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 3: in like an insane guest role. Now we do not

743
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 3: get as much of him as we do with Remiic

744
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 3: obviously because Remick is the antagonist of Sinners, but it

745
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 3: is unbelievable and he shows up in his purple tracksuit

746
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 3: with his tabor on and he's like, oh hi, I'm

747
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 3: Jimmy the pals and and they kind of jump and

748
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:49,760
Speaker 3: they have this crazy action sequenced like Kung Fu fight moment.

749
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 2: For me, I did.

750
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 3: I I really did like this movie a lot, and

751
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 3: I was looking at it from a very objective like, Wow,

752
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 3: this is so well made. I think that ending just

753
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 3: kind of tied everything together for me of like, you

754
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 3: know what, you guys are really going for it, and

755
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 3: that's when we kind of that's when we learn that

756
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 3: Jimmy is not Jamie the bad dad played by Aaron

757
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 3: Taylor Johnson.

758
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 2: We assume throughout the.

759
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 3: Movie that's who he is is he's the survivor of

760
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 3: the Telly Tubby massacre, let's call it.

761
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 2: And uh no, it's actually not.

762
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:25,320
Speaker 3: It's Jack O'Connell's Jimmy and his team of track suited

763
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 3: Jimmy who will wear blonde wigs. And my theory because

764
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 3: of how much they use VHS footage and b ROW

765
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 3: footage that I pitched on mine and Jason's recap is

766
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 3: I think that like they basically are going to be

767
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 3: revealed to have like taught themselves how to fight via

768
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 3: totally love and please can I go a little further.

769
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: I would love it, I think, because I'm like, when

770
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: did did Guy Richie direct the last five?

771
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,240
Speaker 2: Right? Truly?

772
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: And so I almost wonder if there's not gonna be

773
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: a flashback where we realized like they had Teletubbies and Snatch.

774
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 2: Love thats too.

775
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, there's so much happening because Miami heat thought was like, oh,

776
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 8: this is very like King George, all like the animated Robinhood.

777
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,439
Speaker 8: Then you get very Robinhood asked of, like hey, we're

778
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 8: a gang of like not kinds, but like people traveling

779
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:30,320
Speaker 8: protecting folks, and like it's it's such like a mash

780
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 8: like a dichotomy mashup of like two distart like and.

781
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 3: Just visually it looks insane competitive rest of.

782
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 1: And then there's I mean, the fact that you have

783
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: people doing backflips into like martial in the.

784
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 3: Craziest like color track suits like the brightest most.

785
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 2: Side and I love them.

786
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: There's this like introduction to of Jimmy's exaggerated kind of

787
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: posh persona.

788
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 3: Where I'm su Jimmy like I'm Jow and he asks,

789
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 3: you know, very politely, well, there's too many now coming,

790
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 3: is it?

791
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 2: Well?

792
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 3: Right?

793
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: If we step in and just like asks like, hey,

794
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: can we get involved in the fight, like it is

795
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: so weird. I do want to row, Yeah, it's your

796
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 1: gen pop like question. I do wonder how gen pop

797
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:38,320
Speaker 1: will take this because it is a hard laughter.

798
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 6: Yeah.

799
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,800
Speaker 3: Really, I think for some people it's gonna like ruin

800
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 3: the movie.

801
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 6: That's what I've been hearing.

802
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 3: But I feel like I feel like one I'm gonna reveal,

803
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 3: and I just kind of a light trigger warning it

804
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 3: because this person was just so evil in real life,

805
00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 3: but I'm gonna reveal the dark influence on this that

806
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 3: I think makes it deeply into the thing. There was

807
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,240
Speaker 3: a guy who was a very famous kids TV presenter

808
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 3: in England called Jimmy Saville who wore a track suit

809
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 3: like that, who was one of the most abhorrent humans

810
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 3: who's ever lived, like a complete monster. Don't google it

811
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 3: if you don't want to know, google it if you

812
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 3: do want to know. I'm not going to get into

813
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 3: it anymore. But the fact that this character is called

814
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 3: Jimmy grew up in the early two thousands wear's the tracksuit.

815
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 3: He had a show called jim Will Fix It where

816
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 3: he went around helping kids. That was kind of guyes

817
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 3: so I do think that on a British pop culture

818
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 3: level that is not an accident. So I wonder if

819
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 3: in England it will give people that kind of unsettling feeling.

820
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,479
Speaker 2: For me, I didn't read that.

821
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 3: Like when I watched the movie, I was just loving

822
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 3: how weird it was, but afterwards I was like, Okay,

823
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 3: there's no way, sir Jimmy Jimmy Savile's knighted. I don't

824
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 3: think there's any way that this is not some kind

825
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 3: of again, another weird, dark reflection about TV and movies

826
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 3: and how they raise us, and also like what's better

827
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:13,280
Speaker 3: without technology or what don't they know? Yeah, I'm not surprised,

828
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 3: and I think, if I'm not mistaken, in two thousand

829
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 3: and two.

830
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 2: They would not have known the truth of Jimmy Savill.

831
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 2: That's the either thing.

832
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 3: So it hadn't I don't think it had broken yet,

833
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 3: so they could have grown up thinking that this guy

834
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 3: is like a good person and that like is something

835
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 3: they remember from being kids. So I think there's like

836
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 3: a lot of extra layers to it, which I'm hoping

837
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 3: at least in international markets or in English markets, or

838
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 3: maybe I don't know, maybe the TikTok kids who love

839
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 3: true crime, who kind of combo that with horror. Maybe

840
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 3: there's a world where once it's explored, it hits people

841
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 3: a little deeper. But it is like, I do not

842
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 3: blame the people I've seen on IMDb or letterbox two

843
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 3: are like, what the fuck was.

844
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 2: The last five minutes? I don't want to see the

845
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 2: next movie now, But.

846
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 3: I think that they're I think it's creepy on many

847
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 3: levels and could hint at many different versions of kind

848
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 3: of like where the story goes next.

849
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 5: I thought the way that they oh, oh sorry, I

850
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 5: was gonna say, I thought it was really cool. The

851
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 5: way that they hinted at Jimmy. Throughout the movie we

852
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 5: see Jimmy written on the back of the person that

853
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 5: has been hung up inside the house.

854
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 6: We see it says on.

855
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 5: One of the barns from one of the area Jimmy

856
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 5: comes from the clouds or something like that. And once,

857
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 5: even though I had no idea what the fuck was

858
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 5: going on, I was like, Oh, this is so cool.

859
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 6: They tied it all. They tied it all.

860
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 3: That was the thing as well, because also they when

861
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:44,359
Speaker 3: we when the dad Aaron Taylor John says, Jamie and

862
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 3: our kids Spike are like going through you saw that

863
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 3: the house had Jimmy scraped on the side, so like

864
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 3: you were like, well, that's the reason he knows because

865
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 3: obviously when he was younger, he would come here and

866
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 3: you know, but it's not him. And yeah, I'm very

867
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 3: excited to see how that's typically lands.

868
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 2: Because I also like for someone who is you know.

869
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 3: More of a less of a gem pop viewer and

870
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 3: more of like a weird B movie viewer. I actually

871
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 3: think that and kind of sells it more and will

872
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 3: make people like intrigued.

873
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,280
Speaker 2: So yeah, how intrigued are we.

874
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 3: Going forward to twenty eight years later? Bone Temple, Like,

875
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 3: how excited are you for that?

876
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 2: Jason?

877
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm very excited. I mean, I'm like you, you know,

878
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 1: I'm one of these letterbox coastal elites.

879
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 3: Correct, how watched two hundred and sixty seven movies this year?

880
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 2: Baby, I don't do anything important.

881
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: Who loves, you know, nothing more than a huge swing

882
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 1: in a movie, even if it doesn't land, you know,

883
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: like listen, I love a big bucket of popcorn movies.

884
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 1: We obviously love Marvel movies and comic book movies and

885
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,320
Speaker 1: some of the most popular stuff out there. And maybe

886
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: because of that. I love when movies like this do

887
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: something super super weird. So very excited, super excited that

888
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 1: Killian Murphy's coming back. I wonder who else will come

889
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: back from that original cast. Yes, and I'm really excited

890
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: to see again this kind of Canterbury tales, like wandering

891
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:21,760
Speaker 1: through what this island is like? Now, I'm very excited

892
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: for it.

893
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 2: What about you, Joelle?

894
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:25,800
Speaker 9: I can't wait Nia DaCosta is here, guys.

895
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 2: I love that.

896
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 1: I love the Candy Man remake.

897
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,280
Speaker 9: I thought it was effing brilliant.

898
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 8: I cannot wait to see what she does with this,

899
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 8: and especially given like where like the Sharp Turn sort

900
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 8: of allows her to do whatever she wants artistically in

901
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 8: her approaching the next one. It's sort of really kicked

902
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 8: open the door to be like, bring your sense of

903
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 8: self to the page. And so I'm excited to see

904
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 8: what she does with it.

905
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 3: And my understanding as well is like the Bone Temple

906
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 3: is actually already completely filmed. They send them back to back,

907
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 3: so you know it is gonna definitely interconnect.

908
00:48:58,040 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 2: With this space.

909
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 3: Whereas the third movie, as yet un named, has not

910
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 3: even been written yet, so I think we're in an

911
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 3: interesting kind of into the Spider Verse, like.

912
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 2: When will that third movie come out?

913
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 9: Colmon?

914
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 2: How about you? Are you ready for the Bone Temple?

915
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 6: Or I'm making January? I will be there.

916
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 3: It's not even that far away, guys, We're gonna be that.

917
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:20,959
Speaker 2: I love January as a yes.

918
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 3: When I'm sad because Christmas is over, I want to

919
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:27,959
Speaker 3: be seeing a good horror movie in the cinema. I like, yes,

920
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 3: I'm depressed, show me something bleak and upsetting.

921
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 5: I'm most excited to see where they take like all

922
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,760
Speaker 5: of the cult aspects from the original community.

923
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 6: What are we going to learn about that?

924
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 5: What are we going to learn about the Jimmy's and

925
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 5: what are we going I do want to talk really quickly,

926
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 5: just for a second, if you'll let about the arg rel.

927
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 2: Let's quickly bring arg back because.

928
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 5: I think it's coming back because it ties into what

929
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 5: I've got to say here. Because one of the interesting things.

930
00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:00,359
Speaker 5: So there was an ergy for this for this, which

931
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 5: is a website that kind of like companions and gives

932
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 5: you more information about the movie if you want to

933
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:08,240
Speaker 5: look into it. It's called rage leaks dot com and

934
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 5: it's like a WikiLeaks and the password to it is

935
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 5: momentumory and it shows you all of these kind of

936
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 5: like external reports that are being done on the island

937
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 5: from just people that are flying over or observing with

938
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 5: drones and stuff like that. Apparently the outside world has

939
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 5: absolutely no idea what's going on on the island of

940
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 5: the former United Kingdom, which I'm very very interested to

941
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 5: see how that ties in as well, because the website

942
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 5: kind of gives you the hint that people are so

943
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 5: fed up with with the mystery that they have just

944
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 5: started leaking information to the public. So I'm interested to

945
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 5: know if we zoom out at all and see like

946
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 5: a little bit more of what the rest of the

947
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 5: world is doing. We got a hint of it with Eric,

948
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 5: But how.

949
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 2: Was some of the funniest most stuff.

950
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 3: In the movie kind of notion of how much you

951
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 3: can be left behind if you're just out of social

952
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 3: culture for like twenty eight years. They still have mobile phones,

953
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 3: they still have plastic surgery, they still have all this

954
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 3: other stuff. Like I think that it's really interesting, and

955
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 3: I will say, uh, you know an arg guys, it

956
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 3: was very popular. I'm sure all our listeners will remember

957
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,359
Speaker 3: the famous Dark Night ARG. But I think maybe these

958
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 3: kind of websites, these kind of alternate reality gaming, kind

959
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,959
Speaker 3: of like how do you install someone into the world

960
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 3: of the movie is coming back? Because there was also

961
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 3: a very scary bring Her Back Yes website that me

962
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 3: and Carmen got to each other late at night and

963
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 3: we're like, I gotta look at it, like I gotta wait,

964
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 3: I gotta wait till the morning. So I love the

965
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 3: idea that that is, uh, that that's gonna come back

966
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 3: and and kind of feed into that stuff. So yeah,

967
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 3: I'm excited. Keep doing fun digital marketing guys. It's yeah,

968
00:51:58,080 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 3: makes me feel young again.

969
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, we're gonna take a quick break, come back

970
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: with our metal Podium of Horror sequels.

971
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 2: And we're back.

972
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 1: Okay, Metal Podium of Horror Sequels. Let's quickly go around

973
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: the horn. What do we think our best horror movie

974
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 1: sequel is of all time? And then let's see if

975
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: we can kind of slap.

976
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 2: These maybe we can agree together.

977
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's what I think we'll do. Okay, rosielet's

978
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 1: start with you. What's your best.

979
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna go for one that I know Jason,

980
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 3: you are gonna agree with me on at least I'm

981
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 3: gonna not say a silly one like Shax or something

982
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 3: like that. Though I do love that movie. I'm gonna

983
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 3: say and Dead because iconic, I think it's up there.

984
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 3: I think it's a capitalist kind of satire in a

985
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 3: way that movies like twenty eight years Later are still

986
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 3: taking from.

987
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 2: And yeah, just fantastic movie.

988
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,879
Speaker 1: I agree that that should probably be up there. We'll

989
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 1: keep track of that. Okay, so we've got that Carmen,

990
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,439
Speaker 1: your greatest horror sequel of all time?

991
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 5: Well, this one might be controversial because it is technically

992
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 5: like an action sci fi horror.

993
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 6: I'm gonna say aliens, Aliens.

994
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I now we're going Now, we're going back into

995
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 1: our previous round table genrefy this.

996
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 3: Okay, Well you're gonna pick it, will allow it, Okay, Jason,

997
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 3: what about you?

998
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 1: Those are two great ones. And since those are off

999
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 1: the board.

1000
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 10: I'm too.

1001
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 3: Iconic, I would say as well that that's pretty That

1002
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 3: would be pretty gold leaning in my opinion, because I

1003
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 3: do think it's essentially like the first kind of requel

1004
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 3: to where they kind of remade the movie with a

1005
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 3: bigger budget but then gave it this but sort of

1006
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 3: like allowed it to expand and without that second movie,

1007
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 3: I don't know if we're ever going to get like

1008
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,439
Speaker 3: the ash Vessus, the Evil Dead and all those very

1009
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:25,840
Speaker 3: impactful sequel.

1010
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 2: That's a really good Joelle. Are you thinking that? She's like,

1011
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 2: what can I do to?

1012
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:31,800
Speaker 9: I got this okay?

1013
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 8: So at first I was gonna say teach, but then

1014
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 8: I was like, that's two action films with that to

1015
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 8: decide two sci fi about because I really like the

1016
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 8: way that that character introduction.

1017
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 9: Favorite.

1018
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 2: Wow, I got one of my own favorite movies.

1019
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:52,959
Speaker 9: I think I'm gonna land on Final Destination five.

1020
00:54:55,920 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 2: I love that choice. I love that choice. The review

1021
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:01,879
Speaker 2: of the prequel nature of.

1022
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 8: You're watching it and you're like, oh my, that's so good,

1023
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:07,439
Speaker 8: Like the whole franchise is back, and then the ending

1024
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 8: cols you just like smacking the face.

1025
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 9: You're like, my god, what have they done?

1026
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 8: Like if you're already a fan of this franchise, it's

1027
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 8: just like you feel like you've ascended when you finished watching.

1028
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 1: That Movie's true.

1029
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 3: You know something else I love about that movie is

1030
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 3: I feel like I when I'm talking about it in

1031
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 3: this context, obviously I know what happened, but every time

1032
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 3: I watched the movie, I feel like I get to

1033
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 3: the end, and I'm like, oh, yeah, cool, what happens that?

1034
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 3: I It's like some kind of hypnotism. Okay, Jason as

1035
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 3: a sports expert, what is your where do you see

1036
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 3: these podiums lining up?

1037
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 2: And then we'll see if anyone just screams in horror?

1038
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,240
Speaker 1: Okay, So let's let's do it like this. I agree

1039
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 1: with you, Rosie. I think Evil did too, because of

1040
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 1: the indie nature of it, because it kind of created

1041
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 1: a mini movement in horror at the time, and because

1042
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,919
Speaker 1: it remains I mean, it took everything that was great

1043
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 1: about the first one and just elevated it. Let's let's

1044
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 1: put and it's let's also acknowledge there are many sequels,

1045
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 1: and there's you know, Horror is a sequel, John Enra,

1046
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 1: there are not many that are better than the original.

1047
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:19,320
Speaker 1: Like that doesn't happen very much. Okay, So I'm gonna

1048
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 1: I think Evil Dead to probably on the gold mm hmm.

1049
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 1: I want to give it to Here's the thing, is

1050
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 1: Aliens enough of horror I'm.

1051
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 2: Putting I'm putting Aliens on the side of Brian. And

1052
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 2: that's why I.

1053
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:42,720
Speaker 1: Kind of agree, because I feel like it's not horror

1054
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 1: enough to get all the way onto the.

1055
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 2: Good.

1056
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna so I am to put I'm gonna

1057
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 1: put on in the Dead Silver, and then I would put.

1058
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 8: F. D.

1059
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 1: Sinco in the Bronze, and then I would aliens sadly

1060
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 1: crying assid tears to the side of the podium. But listen,

1061
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 1: love the movie. Think of it more as a sci

1062
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:24,439
Speaker 1: fi as a military sci fi. But it definitely.

1063
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 2: Explained the science. In the fast fifteen minutes though of

1064
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 2: the alien.

1065
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:33,439
Speaker 6: They explain how she's still alive. But they.

1066
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 1: Okay, do we have any quickly as we wrap up,

1067
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 1: do we have any sequels that we feel like should

1068
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 1: at least be mentioned here?

1069
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 5: You know, I have to say I actually like the

1070
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 5: sequel to thee.

1071
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 3: Okay, yes, agree, I was conjuring the second the Second

1072
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 3: and the Second Country movie where it's an that's really good.

1073
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 2: I would also say, like, I do think there is

1074
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 2: a space for like campy horror sequels.

1075
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 3: I do think Jason X is like at.

1076
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 2: The New BEV.

1077
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 3: We got to do just the sequels episode honestly, because

1078
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 3: even like one of my favorite movies of all time

1079
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 3: that I saw in a double bill that I swear

1080
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 3: to God was like programmed for me at the New

1081
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 3: BEV with Jason x is Hell Raiser.

1082
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:31,919
Speaker 2: Black One, which is the fourth one.

1083
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 3: Adam Scott in it as like a sexy Sato masochistic

1084
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 3: like murderer who gets the the.

1085
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 2: I love any scream scream.

1086
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 1: I think could scream. I also could scream.

1087
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 2: Four is up there, Like Emma Roberts is so good

1088
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 2: in that movie.

1089
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, there's so many guys, but I think

1090
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 3: I like, I like the chaos of the one. It's

1091
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 3: like half So let's just keep it like gold Able,

1092
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 3: Dead two Fair, I love Don and Dead, fantastic movie,

1093
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 3: Brun's final.

1094
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 2: That's the Nation five. Yeah, well you're gonna do about it.

1095
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 2: That's all.

1096
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 1: We scream queens.

1097
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, LUs to have you here, Thank

1098
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 2: you for having us.

1099
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 1: Thursday, on Extra Vision, we're diving into the first three

1100
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 1: episodes of Ironheart on Disney Plus Bye x Ray Vision

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Speaker 1: is hosted by Jason Concepcion and Rosie Knight and is

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Speaker 1: a production of iHeart Podcast.

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Speaker 3: Our executive producers are Joel Monique and Aaron Cortman.

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Speaker 1: Our supervising producer is Abuzafar.

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Speaker 3: Our producers are Common Laurent Dean, Jonathan and fay Wag.

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Speaker 1: A theme song is by Brian Vasquez, with alternate theme

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Speaker 1: songs by Aaron Kauffman.

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Speaker 3: Special thanks to Soul Rubin, Chris Lord, Kenny Goodman, and

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Speaker 3: Heidi our discord moderator,