Speaker 1: Yeah. Orange County Season twelve, episode three is Anything But
Speaker 1: Quiet One, Shannon Badour and Kelly Dodd caused a scene
Speaker 1: at the Quiet Woman, creating one of the most iconic
Speaker 1: OC episodes to date. Legendary actress, singer, author, businesswoman, and
Speaker 1: health spokesperson Suzanne Summers joins me to recap the loudest
Speaker 1: Housewives dinner of them all. This is real Housewives of
Speaker 1: Orange County Season twelve, episode three, The Not So Quiet Woman.
Speaker 1: Let's get into it. Okay, So are you a housewife watcher?
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not. These are the first time I'm
Speaker 1: I'm doing this for you. I love you. And by
Speaker 1: the way, it's funny, I'm doing this for us too,
Speaker 1: because I had never seen this episode. And what's funny too,
Speaker 1: is that I don't watch the show. Really, I was
Speaker 1: on the show, but I don't watch the show. Um.
Speaker 1: But I wonder if there are many things you've been
Speaker 1: in that you wouldn't necessarily watch. Well, I did, um,
Speaker 1: and I didn't realize I was doing it. You know,
Speaker 1: Yolanda had right and she had line disease. That's how
Speaker 1: we met. I meet people over diseases, right, and so
Speaker 1: Yolanda a little tricky says, I want you to come
Speaker 1: over and um just talk about line. And when I
Speaker 1: sat there on the couch, I realized, Oh, we're doing
Speaker 1: the show. Oh you were on the Housewives talking about Line. Yeah,
Speaker 1: whatever whatever show she she was doing, right, Okay. So
Speaker 1: then I sometimes like when someone really is just seeing
Speaker 1: this fresh, because it's a really unique perspective. But I'm
Speaker 1: seeing this show somewhat fresh. I know more obviously than
Speaker 1: you do. But when I watched them, I really a
Speaker 1: lot of things come to mind, all right, because there
Speaker 1: was one part about a double mystectomy I thought you
Speaker 1: would find interesting, and so there are nuggets. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of garbage to pick through in these shows, but
Speaker 1: there are sometimes some you know, things, some vehicles for
Speaker 1: good conversation. So alright, so I thought, and I'm coming.
Speaker 1: We're coming in seasons later after these people start. But
Speaker 1: this woman Shannon, who I know who she is, Shannon Badoor,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've ever met her. She's with
Speaker 1: this other woman, Lydia at a party. And it seems
Speaker 1: insane to be having this kind of argument, taking something
Speaker 1: so seriously and pulling off on a stretch limousine mid
Speaker 1: broad light Branda. Yeah, yeah, God, she needed to chill, right, Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: not that big a deal. I thought so too. And
Speaker 1: but what's funny is that how many times you've been married? Twice? Okay?
Speaker 1: So we later find out, not in this episode, but
Speaker 1: in this show that he's cheating on her and a
Speaker 1: younger girl and there's a loveless marriage, and like all
Speaker 1: of the yarn ball starts to on on on tie,
Speaker 1: and I think about very challenging times in my life
Speaker 1: over here, and when you're very like intense over here.
Speaker 1: So I reached you overreact and you're on a reality
Speaker 1: show and people are drinking and everything, and the stakes
Speaker 1: are heightened also with cameras. So I'm thinking that her
Speaker 1: weight and everything is like probably culminating at this time
Speaker 1: in her life. It doesn't seem like she is very
Speaker 1: happy at all. Is she the one who gained forty
Speaker 1: pounds of like, yeah, that's sh and forty of those
Speaker 1: pounds on her on her way? Is that? I thought
Speaker 1: it was? Oh, I think you're right, that's really not
Speaker 1: quite awake yet. That's presumably why my producers chose you
Speaker 1: to talk about this though, because of the health aspect,
Speaker 1: Like that's that sounded serious to you. Right when I watched,
Speaker 1: I thought, she's another victim of chemicalization. We're under the
Speaker 1: greatest environmental assault in the history of humanity, and people
Speaker 1: don't realize that. You know, the g I tract is
Speaker 1: the length of a tennis court, and around that barrier
Speaker 1: on the g I track is mucus, and that mucus
Speaker 1: is your immune system. When you eat non organic food
Speaker 1: and fast food and things like that, that bad element
Speaker 1: comes into the body in through the GI tract and uh,
Speaker 1: it eats through that barrier wall, causing leaky gut. It
Speaker 1: eats little holes, and the leaky gut is a major concerns.
Speaker 1: So um, you know, I do these three Facebook live
Speaker 1: shows a week sit down Summer's dot Com, and everybody
Speaker 1: was complaining about their guts and their guts and their guts.
Speaker 1: And as I watched this woman on the Housewives, I thought,
Speaker 1: you got is what you really thought? And I thought
Speaker 1: that that scene with the the chiropractor guy, I didn't
Speaker 1: really think he was too tough on her. I was
Speaker 1: wondering if people would think he was too tough. He
Speaker 1: kept say he was like wow, and then he said wow.
Speaker 1: And I feel like people that really love you, that
Speaker 1: are around you are not going to say like you
Speaker 1: need to lose weight or you're unhealthy or something. But
Speaker 1: I thought that he kind of was still supportive in
Speaker 1: the way that he said it's her, did you did
Speaker 1: you agree he was he was, and what he was
Speaker 1: really asking or you know when you look like this
Speaker 1: is are you having sex with your husband? And I thought, um,
Speaker 1: probably not. She probably is embarrassed to take her clothes off.
Speaker 1: That's a that's a big weight game. But once again,
Speaker 1: nobody is noticing that. It's the environment and the chemicals,
Speaker 1: and he's working out like like a midlife crisis, and
Speaker 1: then you hear later that he's having an affair, and
Speaker 1: all these pieces are adding up in a woman's life
Speaker 1: and during menopause, and it's just she seems like she's
Speaker 1: having some sort of a break, like a disproportionate reaction
Speaker 1: to things, like she's at this party and she's melting
Speaker 1: down and she's never going to speak to the person again,
Speaker 1: and then she just can't keep it together. It feels
Speaker 1: like But that that that I gave her a lot
Speaker 1: of credit for talking to the audience about weighing D
Speaker 1: seventy two pounds like that must have been couraged, and
Speaker 1: she certainly just hadn't been on a scale in years.
Speaker 1: I thought that was pretty courageous. And she's lost a
Speaker 1: ton of weight, by the way, Yeah, well yeah, um,
Speaker 1: it's it's devastating to gain that kind of way. I've
Speaker 1: never gained that kind of weight. But I did have
Speaker 1: stomach issues about ten years ago, and I was looking
Speaker 1: at myself in a publicity picture and I thought, uh,
Speaker 1: it doesn't look good. Um, but it's how it's about
Speaker 1: what you're eating. Yeah, And it's not. It's not about
Speaker 1: fattening food. It's about eating chemicals and something something. Sometimes
Speaker 1: I say the people, um, what did you eat today?
Speaker 1: And they don't know. I go, well, and then let's
Speaker 1: go through it and it's it's chemicals. It's um, fast
Speaker 1: food and chemicals. So it's just Yeah. The other girl
Speaker 1: was peggy and she's new. I had never seen her
Speaker 1: before in my life, and she had a double mess sectomy,
Speaker 1: which is like, that's like when Angelina Jolie did it proactively.
Speaker 1: You just you know that you're prone to that. That
Speaker 1: that's a move, that's a courageous move. And when when
Speaker 1: one's life a humbling move. But you know, I wrote
Speaker 1: a book about cancer called Knockout Doctors Here and Cancer
Speaker 1: Without Drugs, And one of the doctors I interviewed on
Speaker 1: colleges she said, I have so many women coming in
Speaker 1: who have had mass spectomies to remove the evidence. And
Speaker 1: she said, and then they're back again. It comes back.
Speaker 1: She said, just removing it isn't the answer. The answer
Speaker 1: is find the cause what caused this? Right Lyddy is
Speaker 1: the girl who was the long hair who is having
Speaker 1: the argument in the beginning, and she's working with her husband.
Speaker 1: Do you work with your husband? So she's working with
Speaker 1: her husband in a magazine. I think it was nobleman.
Speaker 1: I looked, Yeah, I saw that. It didn't seem like
Speaker 1: it was around anymore. But do you work with your husband?
Speaker 1: Because I feel like you're together a lot. We we
Speaker 1: run our business together, so you work together every day,
Speaker 1: every day, every day. We're never we're never apart, and
Speaker 1: that's always worked. We get along so great. I love
Speaker 1: our marriage and he loves our marriage. And like I
Speaker 1: hear his dishes in the background right now, Yeah, he
Speaker 1: does that. That's amazing. Like you really like you're together
Speaker 1: because I'm not in a relationship. We're together all the
Speaker 1: time and this and it struck me when I saw
Speaker 1: Lydia We're oh well. I saw her working with her husband,
Speaker 1: but she said something about her father who was successful
Speaker 1: and I guess her grandfather or uncle, and she kind
Speaker 1: of emasculated her husband. Did you hear that when she said, um,
Speaker 1: I wish he could be more like my father or
Speaker 1: it was either my uncle or grandfather, because her husband
Speaker 1: obviously doesn't work the way that she wants him to.
Speaker 1: That great. I don't think I heard that, but there's
Speaker 1: something that's ringing a bell. Yeah. They were sitting and
Speaker 1: then you saw like a cutaway and she said my father.
Speaker 1: I guess she comes from a wealthy family or successful
Speaker 1: father and another male figure in the family. And she
Speaker 1: was basically saying, which her husband's obviously going to see
Speaker 1: that she wishes her husband had more of what her
Speaker 1: father and like he's not tough. Relationship ruin her. That's
Speaker 1: like emasculation. One oh one, Right, Yeah, you don't. You
Speaker 1: don't compare. No, you love and if you love, you love,
Speaker 1: but you don't compare no. No. And I think about
Speaker 1: the relationships on these shows a lot, because in the
Speaker 1: beginning that the girl that we're saying is having challenge
Speaker 1: with her husband. When that limo came, he was like, what, sweetie,
Speaker 1: what happened? Sweetie? He seemed like he was being nice
Speaker 1: to her. And I haven't seen a lot, but I've
Speaker 1: seen him on that show before being nice to her,
Speaker 1: and I feel like things devolved, just like the you know,
Speaker 1: SAT relationships devolved like weear and tear erosion in relationships.
Speaker 1: You can't really take it for granted. Because I watched
Speaker 1: her with him and he seemed sweet. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: he's a good guy. I don't know anything about him,
Speaker 1: but I just mean the relationships seems like it really changed.
Speaker 1: I think a good relationship is about giving each other
Speaker 1: a lot of attention and um and not criticizing and um.
Speaker 1: I just I think my relationship with Alan is as
Speaker 1: close to perfect as it can get. That's amazing. It
Speaker 1: is amazing. It amazing. I met him when I was
Speaker 1: a girl and I think eighteen, and um, I loved
Speaker 1: him the moment I met him. That's amazing. And you've
Speaker 1: been together since Yeah, we've been together fifty five years.
Speaker 1: That's unbelievable. Well, it's unbelievable when you consider I've been
Speaker 1: married twice, but I got pregnant at eighteen and that
Speaker 1: didn't work out so well. Yeah, at that time, you remember,
Speaker 1: if you got pregnant, you and they said you had
Speaker 1: to get married. So I walked around with that shame
Speaker 1: thing I had to get married. Of course, if I'd
Speaker 1: stayed with him, might be in jail. Yeah, but it
Speaker 1: was a long time ago. I get that. It's a
Speaker 1: totally different world. And on these shows, sometimes people go
Speaker 1: on these shows so they to save their marriage. I've
Speaker 1: seen that where they're having problems that seems like an
Speaker 1: adventure or it's something that the man kind of like
Speaker 1: Kelsey Grammar and Camille, you know, gives to her as
Speaker 1: like the Swan song. Like there are these these things
Speaker 1: going on where you see at the end of a relationship.
Speaker 1: Sometimes they go on these shows. I'm not saying always,
Speaker 1: but a lot of these. Is that true that Kelsey
Speaker 1: Grammer and his wife broke up on one of these shows.
Speaker 1: It's true that at the end of his at the
Speaker 1: end of their relationship, like when she was a new housewife,
Speaker 1: he was on. He looked like he was eating nails.
Speaker 1: He was on for I think one episode and he
Speaker 1: looked like it was torture and he and he had
Speaker 1: to be on camera, so he probably agreed. He probably
Speaker 1: did it out of guilt or something, letting her quote
Speaker 1: unquote letting her be on the show, and you know,
Speaker 1: agreeing to do it himself. And she's on the other
Speaker 1: camera talking about how she walked into her building in
Speaker 1: New York City and they didn't know who she was
Speaker 1: because I thought she was a woman he was having
Speaker 1: a fair with. So she's talking about his affair on
Speaker 1: the show, and we and everyone knows it was just
Speaker 1: like he was dragged into it because of her being
Speaker 1: on it. I mean, his actions are his own actions.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying, well, he's faultless, but it was. It's
Speaker 1: a disaster. But a lot of times there were all
Speaker 1: these shows. You see these people and they end up
Speaker 1: breaking up. The woman who has the new baby, who's
Speaker 1: in the kitchen, the baseball player that we'll get into. Ye,
Speaker 1: they're broken up. He seems like he can't stand her,
Speaker 1: like it's literally why he's on the show, and it
Speaker 1: looks like he seems like he hates her. Um, it
Speaker 1: wasn't an idea, wasn't I'm I'm watching going how did
Speaker 1: you get close enough to make that baby right? It's
Speaker 1: called he's a baseball player, just so you know she's
Speaker 1: you know, this is one of those things when you
Speaker 1: sign up in a relationship for something and it was
Speaker 1: right there, but you think somehow it's going to change,
Speaker 1: Like she married a professional baseball player, and it seems
Speaker 1: like they resent the ship out of each other. Now
Speaker 1: they probably do. You know, I believe that the first
Speaker 1: thought you have about things is the real. It's the
Speaker 1: real answer for you, and then I think your your
Speaker 1: observances are astute. They want to drink it pretty yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, like drink it pretty yeah. Um, So they
Speaker 1: go to this dinner. Now, the girl that is Armenian
Speaker 1: who had the delomastectomy, she was probably only on this
Speaker 1: one season. I've never seen her since. And I want
Speaker 1: to explain to you a dynamic that I recognize because
Speaker 1: it's very It's this bait that people take when they're
Speaker 1: new on these shows. They want to come on and
Speaker 1: show everybody how much better they are than them, Like, oh,
Speaker 1: like you you were invited to the party, but then
Speaker 1: you're gonna act like, well, you don't know why you're there.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean or do taking a project
Speaker 1: and like you have like you're better than the bigger
Speaker 1: nobody's bigger than the game. So she comes on and
Speaker 1: she thinks she's gonna be oh and two people don't
Speaker 1: talk to each other communicate that she came on to
Speaker 1: be better than it was, like shutting everything down. And
Speaker 1: I said, that's the kiss of death, Like that's the
Speaker 1: sign someone's getting fired as a housewife. I think that
Speaker 1: moment where I I was feeling such compassion for her
Speaker 1: with her double mess up to date, and then she said,
Speaker 1: nobody sees what I see, but they just see the
Speaker 1: jewelry in their hair and the face and the clothes.
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking that's kind of not a way to
Speaker 1: pull in French. There are some people on here that
Speaker 1: really think they're bigger than the show. So she's at
Speaker 1: the dinner and Shannon just trying to connect to her
Speaker 1: and talk about her husband who and we say, he said,
Speaker 1: he said, oh, it was she. Shannon was saying to
Speaker 1: that girl Peggy that I got very stressed out because
Speaker 1: it was in the media that my husband beat me. Okay,
Speaker 1: I can understand, Okay, I can understand her having a
Speaker 1: rough patch. If people thought her husband physically abused her.
Speaker 1: Now that may be true or may not. Either way,
Speaker 1: that's not someone else she said that, didn't she. She
Speaker 1: said to the girl Peggy, I had a rough year
Speaker 1: and I've gained, you know, forty pounds or whatever. But
Speaker 1: she gained. And she didn't say my mayor just falling apart,
Speaker 1: because that probably wasn't in her mind completely yet. But
Speaker 1: she did say people were saying that my husband beats me.
Speaker 1: And the girl Peggy was like, oh do we do
Speaker 1: that every Friday night at my house? Still cares. Don't
Speaker 1: let it bother you her experience. Yeah, but she did
Speaker 1: say after I was just in my country. That's how
Speaker 1: we choke. But I didn't think it was funny. But
Speaker 1: she had a better than I'll say, she had a
Speaker 1: better than vibe. So they go to dinner. Of course,
Speaker 1: the restaurants called the Quiet Woman. Of course. Um And
Speaker 1: just to give you a little background, so Shannon is
Speaker 1: the wacky one. We've been discussing. Two other girls are
Speaker 1: new and it doesn't, I hate to say, really matter.
Speaker 1: They don't. They don't go on that long, so they're
Speaker 1: not characters are going to invest in. But the thin
Speaker 1: blonde who's like the brand who has the guinea pigs.
Speaker 1: She's Tammer. She's kind of an iconic housewife. You know,
Speaker 1: she's like good at her job as a housewife, and
Speaker 1: she's always sort of in between all the all the
Speaker 1: dramatic pieces. Um. And then the other girl who's in
Speaker 1: the bathroom with the collar over the water and the boobs.
Speaker 1: She's kind of a villain Kelly dot But my opinion
Speaker 1: in this show is you need quote unquote characters like that,
Speaker 1: people like that, because that represents the world. Like if
Speaker 1: they start showing these synthetic groups that everybody's saying what
Speaker 1: you want politically, it's not real. When I was watching it, I, um,
Speaker 1: I couldn't help but think of Larry David and Curb
Speaker 1: your Enthusiasm because because his humor is absurd, that people
Speaker 1: act absurd, right, And as I was watching it, I thought,
Speaker 1: the way you're acting right now is absurd, And um,
Speaker 1: have you ever seen Curb Yours met? Every single episode? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know how it is, you're right, like you can't
Speaker 1: believe susism and it's like you fucking more your right,
Speaker 1: and like that's what would happen on the show. That's
Speaker 1: such a a stute genius thing to say, because you
Speaker 1: can't believe you just happen. Yeah, she's a great character.
Speaker 1: Fat yeah you fat fuck? Oh yeah, I love her.
Speaker 1: I love her. Even are the best characters on television.
Speaker 1: She's great. So that's an a stute observation. And I agree.
Speaker 1: It's outland that's why I'm saying. But that's why I like,
Speaker 1: you know, I always say, and it's not it's not
Speaker 1: my original material. I don't know who I got it from.
Speaker 1: But when you love to love a character, it's great.
Speaker 1: When you love to hate a character, when it's great.
Speaker 1: When you hate to hate a character, you're kind of
Speaker 1: hating yourself. It's like getting dirty and like not great,
Speaker 1: you love to hate him. I watched that show and
Speaker 1: it's wonderful and it's awful, and it's wonderful and it's awful,
Speaker 1: and I go back and forth. And we started watching
Speaker 1: it because there's so much violence and war and you know,
Speaker 1: lousy stuff on television, and we thought that's the terrible
Speaker 1: thing to go to bed with. You can't sleep when
Speaker 1: you're all in turmoil. So we started watching Curb Your
Speaker 1: Enthusiasm a year ago, and I can't wait to get
Speaker 1: in bed and watch it. It's so wait, don't tell
Speaker 1: me you haven't watched the entire season of Ship's Creek.
Speaker 1: I have, I have. I love it. My daughter and
Speaker 1: I love it. It's like I feel funny, stupid, and also, um,
Speaker 1: it's a whole different thing. It's succession. I love. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're they're doing some good things on television. But my favorite,
Speaker 1: my favorite right now is Larry David. And my goal
Speaker 1: is to see all hundred and ten episodes. Well that
Speaker 1: will happen. Um. Well, so this is as absurd as that.
Speaker 1: And I bring this up because the character Kelly is horrible,
Speaker 1: but for some reason, when I see her, I just
Speaker 1: am entertained, Like I want to not be entertained, because
Speaker 1: she can be horrible and she's like putting her face
Speaker 1: against the window as they're leaving, like it's absolutely terrible.
Speaker 1: But I find the woman Peggy looking down upon everybody
Speaker 1: else in that overall experience more terrible. Like I kind
Speaker 1: of find that this woman Kelly, it's just it's her
Speaker 1: id like whatever she thinks, she's just saying, and that's
Speaker 1: a real person. I may not like her, but that's
Speaker 1: what I find interesting. Because they take people off these
Speaker 1: shows and try to make them very political correct, and
Speaker 1: when they put the really politically correct groups together who
Speaker 1: would not associate with each other, it seems preachy and
Speaker 1: it just seems awkward for the audience, Like you're gonna
Speaker 1: have a couple of crazy people, You're gonna have a
Speaker 1: couple of pieces of ship in the mix, Like you're
Speaker 1: gonna have that's what. That's a reality show, that's people.
Speaker 1: That's that's an interesting description. Yeah, Like Larry David, you
Speaker 1: love you don't even hate him, you just it's like
Speaker 1: he's just he's a disaster. We were at a restaurant
Speaker 1: one night and um Antio Baldi, Yes, and Larry David
Speaker 1: and his wife and I think the daughter walks in
Speaker 1: and they sit. He's one of them. He kind of
Speaker 1: scares me. I go up to everybody, but you never
Speaker 1: know if he's gonna say hey or yeah, And um
Speaker 1: so I didn't say hello to him. And he sits
Speaker 1: right across from us, and they sit down and they
Speaker 1: don't talk, and then they order their dinner and then
Speaker 1: he pulls out a pack of cards and they start
Speaker 1: playing cards, and they received their dinner. They don't talk
Speaker 1: through the whole dinner, and when the dinner is over,
Speaker 1: he pays the bill and they get up and leave.
Speaker 1: They never talked. Never. That's so funny. And then I thought,
Speaker 1: that's who he is, right yeah, And you gotta understand
Speaker 1: your person. You got to understand your person. Um okay,
Speaker 1: So Kelly says, this is where you lose me when
Speaker 1: Kelly goes a little below the belt, like making a
Speaker 1: comment about the weight, like this woman has just come
Speaker 1: clean about the fact that she was two pounds. And
Speaker 1: the one thing I don't like is when anyone grabs
Speaker 1: the low hanging fruit for an insult, like you don't
Speaker 1: you gotta fight fair? Of course, of course. Um oh,
Speaker 1: she says, keep eating, and then Shannon feels shame because
Speaker 1: that wasn't her plate. So she feels this shame and
Speaker 1: she says, keep eating. Yeah yeah, And who was your
Speaker 1: favorite character? Um? I didn't really want to hang with
Speaker 1: any of them? That's fair, okay, al right, well, if
Speaker 1: you don't want to hang out with anything, there was.
Speaker 1: So what was the rose and what was the thorn
Speaker 1: of the episode? For me? The rose was feeling hope
Speaker 1: that she was going to get on a journey with
Speaker 1: that guy. In some way like I felt like there
Speaker 1: you had turned a corner. You're not gonna get on
Speaker 1: a scale and scale on television and see a number
Speaker 1: for yourself. And then you see your husband doing those
Speaker 1: monkey bars and all that. That felt a little like Rocky, like,
Speaker 1: let's get hold and fifth and let's get to the
Speaker 1: to the to Philadelphia and run those steps. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: had a similar reaction. Okay, so that and what was
Speaker 1: your thorn? Um? I think the one who felt better
Speaker 1: than Peggy was your thorn. Yeah. And and when you
Speaker 1: said when her issues were I before the show, I
Speaker 1: instantly was compassionate, but her demeanor took away that element.
Speaker 1: I know. And then you feel guilty because you see
Speaker 1: that somebody's been through something and they've made themselves not likable,
Speaker 1: and that's happened before on the show. And I thought, Um,
Speaker 1: I did the Kelly comment of like, keep eating, it's
Speaker 1: just so you're gonna have you're gonna throw an insult
Speaker 1: to better be an intelligent, non character assassination or physical
Speaker 1: you know it's a bit cheap female. Yeah you don't,
Speaker 1: but you don't like it's that you don't say you're ugly,
Speaker 1: you're fat, Your clothes, your poor like, that's disgusting. You
Speaker 1: could come up with something that would convey your point,
Speaker 1: you know, that could be even so much more powerful.
Speaker 1: You could say, the the amount of insecurity that you're
Speaker 1: projecting right now is so incredibly distracted, Like you could
Speaker 1: say something intelligent that you know, I think, I think, Um,
Speaker 1: what a lot of people don't understand. And if you
Speaker 1: understand this simple thing, um, it's much easier to survive.
Speaker 1: And that is handles, the handle being I'm so sorry
Speaker 1: that you're gaining weight. Um, perhaps you can tried this
Speaker 1: or that or uh whatever whatever. I haven't had time
Speaker 1: to think about it. But um, I never offend anybody
Speaker 1: that I'm aware of, and that's because I always preface
Speaker 1: it with a way that they can wiggle out of it.
Speaker 1: But this person wanted to hurt the other person, so
Speaker 1: she went through. I mean, you could be a at
Speaker 1: at somebody and give a bitchy comment, but it should
Speaker 1: not be something that's going to attack their physicality or
Speaker 1: something like that. That's just taking let's blow the belt.
Speaker 1: It's totally shit exactly. Um. And then I can't help
Speaker 1: but two things struck me as incredibly rich. Tamarra who's
Speaker 1: gotten naked wasted on the show quote unquote, and not
Speaker 1: judging any of these people, I've been on reality television too,
Speaker 1: but to say I'm just thinking about what Jesus would do,
Speaker 1: I'm fairly sure that got Jesus would not be on
Speaker 1: the Housewives like that was. And and then juxtaposing that
Speaker 1: with the other girl praying about Jesus in the bathroom
Speaker 1: in Jesus's name and give us. But like we had
Speaker 1: two very I mean we were in we were in
Speaker 1: the quiet Woman with Tamara and Kelly Dodd and Shannon
Speaker 1: and this girl praying in the bathroom Jesus doing like
Speaker 1: a toilet bowl prayer in the bathroom to Jesus. And
Speaker 1: then Tama was like, I just think about what Jesus
Speaker 1: would you I'm like, oh Jesus, I mean yeah, it's
Speaker 1: was cringe e. I mean Jesus on the Housewives, Like yeah,
Speaker 1: let's let's let's think about what Jesus would do on
Speaker 1: the Housewives. So yeah, that was definitely reach Um, Well,
Speaker 1: it was great to talk to you about something totally ridiculous.
Speaker 1: I appreciate time, but I watched it and was intrigued. Well,
Speaker 1: it was great talking to you. I appreciate you do
Speaker 1: and so much. Tell your husband. I said, hello, what
Speaker 1: you want to see him? You too? What were you
Speaker 1: just making pancakes? It's late, it's two Wow. I respect that. Well.
Speaker 1: We had to watch Real Housewives this morning. Homework Yeah,
Speaker 1: me too. I will up for goad you. That's what
Speaker 1: I said to you. But I said, I feel like
Speaker 1: I have homework. I'm sorry. I'll tell you all those
Speaker 1: you did well, Suzanne wouldn't have been a good housewife,
Speaker 1: which is very positive for right, she's my housewife. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: she's actually a good housewife. H