1 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: The Welcome to the Ozone podcast presented by by Star 2 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: Credit Union, featuring Jaguar senior writer John Osier and executive 3 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: producer Dave de Candice. This week, guests, I can't tell 4 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: you how I'm excite, how excited I am about it. 5 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: It's it's Josh Allen, second year defensive end for the Jaguars, 6 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: And really that description doesn't describe him well enough to me, 7 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: and I talked about it with him during the podcast. 8 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 1: To me, he's the future of the franchise. He's the 9 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: guy this franchise can depend on going forward, and the 10 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: best draft pick they've had in a long long time. So, 11 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: without further ado, Josh Allen one of the most impressive 12 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 1: rookies to come into this franchise in a long, long, 13 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: long long time. Last year when most impressive young players, 14 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: And Josh, I'm curious to start off with as you 15 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: come into season two. Everybody, when you first talked to 16 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: the media asked about leadership, and I was fascinated by 17 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: your answer that you can't force it, but obviously you 18 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: know that you're a leader and guys are looking to you. 19 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: How have you handled it so far? How this first 20 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: few weeks gone on that front. Uh. I mean, I 21 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: feel like the biggest pressure of that being said is 22 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: not even leading others, is how I carry myself. Is 23 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 1: how I lead myself, is how I you know, like 24 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: I said, carry myself in the locker room, out there 25 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: on the field, any meetings. Uh that's because you know, 26 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: I'm a guy that that that once lead the way 27 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: that I felt like the things should go. I feel 28 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: like we're in a different time in the Jaguars organization 29 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: where different guys have to step up and uh just 30 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: just just you know, doing what I mean to do, 31 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: being on time, being in the right place, practicing hard 32 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: every play, running too the ball, doing things like that. 33 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: Uh that's stuff that guys see and uh that's that's 34 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: also just being a leader in that way. And that's 35 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: the thing that I have to control myself. Here's what 36 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do. I'm not gonna ask you about 37 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: Klias because here's my theory. Everybody assumed that with Klis 38 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: out of the picture, now you're the leader. And I 39 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,399 Speaker 1: know you were on his hip a lot last year, 40 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: but my interpretation of it is that you, even without 41 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: his influence, you're the kind of guy who's gonna take 42 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: the right professional approach. Did that happened before you met him? 43 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: I guess he's yeah, it's my thought when you came 44 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: in here, what, um, where did that come from? Where 45 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: do you think you got that before you got to 46 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: the Jaguars because you came in with the maturity and approach. Yeah, 47 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: I mean just going back to college, I just wanted 48 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: to be a part of a program, like going to 49 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: the University of Kentucky was a program that was always 50 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: slept on as not being a good program, not being 51 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 1: a good football school, being as a walkover just a 52 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: walkover game, and just I was tired of I was 53 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: fed up on that. Teammates and I got together, stick together. 54 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 1: We came up with a plan on how it was 55 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: going to be successful. Uh So that really started there, 56 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 1: just pushing myself to the breaking limits to push my 57 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: teammates as much as they could. So when we do 58 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 1: start playing, you know, teams that you know are considered 59 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: the best, that we're gonna be the better team. We're 60 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: gonna be the better shape team, and just start being 61 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: there guys looking at me as being the top players, 62 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: being one of those guys that like we like we 63 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: have Now that Okay, he's our leader. He's the guy 64 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: that makes the most plays. Well, heck, I gotta make 65 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: the plays, you know, for guys to follow that. And 66 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: also I gotta do things right, push myself, pushing my teammates. 67 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: That's the stuff people see. And I've really started from 68 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: my senior year. As you can tell when ten the 69 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: three We've never done that before and just being a 70 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: part of being a part of that is um really 71 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: really got me to where I want to be. Make 72 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: changes organization. Man, I want to do things that we 73 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: have never done. I know we had a great season too, 74 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: the seven team. We can't go back on that, but 75 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: just looking forward and of years to come, just trying 76 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: to be building and be better every year. I may 77 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: have to put the dog outside. Sorry about that very well? 78 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: Yeah I do too. Mine's twenty four and he's still 79 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: it is a burden. So UM, how much does your family, 80 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 1: your upbringing up on that front? We haven't talked a 81 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: whole lot about that since you've gotten here, but in 82 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 1: reading something about you and sort of listening to you, 83 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: they're a huge influence on you, aren't. I Mean there 84 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 1: are a lot of why you're here and a lot 85 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: of your personality correct, Yes, sir, family my meeting like 86 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: my brothers and sisters, mom and dad family, or my 87 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: kids and my wife family. I come from a competitive family. 88 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 1: I grew up competitive. I came out the probably became 89 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 1: my my mom trying to be I was a twin, 90 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: so I probably came out trying to be him out 91 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 1: but he kind of wants So that's probably one over 92 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 1: a competitive as sometimes but I just joke on that. 93 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: But yeah, growing up, my sisters were all UH Division 94 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: one athletes, the best. They were considered. My sister who 95 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: was considered the best player in the state of New 96 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: Jersey coming out of high school, being a McDonald's All American. 97 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: My uncle, my uncle is a Hall of Famer basketball. 98 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: So having that competitive sport, having that competitive edge out there, 99 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: really pushed me to continue to do that, and I'm 100 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: to this day. I'm still compete with my family. My 101 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 1: sister is a w n B A champion um and 102 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: that's something that she's won up in me right now. 103 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: So being competitive about it, no, that's I'm really self competitive. 104 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: I can compete with anybody like the other person might 105 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 1: not know, but I know in my mind that I'm 106 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: competing on on trying to beat this person out. Uh 107 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 1: So when my sister got drafted, I told myself I 108 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: want to be dropped hiding her and I didn't thought 109 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: I was up one and then there you come. She's 110 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 1: a world champion. So now I have to, you know, 111 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: be a world champion plus winn m VP. So that's 112 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 1: definitely my goals and uh just the one up. And 113 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: that's just how I am, And that's you know, I 114 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 1: don't force it's just that's just who I am. You know. 115 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: If my kids come on like that, I can't blame them, 116 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: you know. But there's what it is for listeners who 117 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: aren't around Josh every day. One thing that strikes you 118 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: about being around Josh Allen around the Jaguars is a 119 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: lot of rookies who come in. It takes a while 120 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 1: for them to appreciate where they are and to have 121 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: sort of a mature perspective. With you, Josh, I get 122 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:44,799 Speaker 1: the feeling there's something a thirty thirty one years old 123 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: about you, old soul or whatever it is that you 124 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 1: kind of get it. I mean, you're a guy who 125 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: I see before COVID, you would walk around the building 126 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 1: talking to people, you would ask them what their jobs were. 127 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 1: Very self aware for a rookie. UM, I'm wondering where 128 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: that comes from. Have you always been like that? My 129 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: theory is maybe you weren't a five star recruit. You 130 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: had to sort of prove yourself coming up. Did that 131 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: have anything to do with that? Just always sort of 132 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: having to prove yourself and work a little harder. I'm 133 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: a social bug, man, I if I talked to it, 134 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: literally everybody, like I feel like I'm best friends with 135 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: the cafeteria people upstairs. They give me right so you know, 136 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: I got you know, so I'm like best friends with them, 137 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: gonna know everybody's name. Um. So it's just me being me, 138 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: just trying to show people that I am just more 139 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: than just an athlete, just more than just a football player. 140 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: I am, you know, a great guy if you talk 141 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: to me. I like to have a different conversation with 142 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: people like well, Alex, you know Brooks, I love talking 143 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: about I want to know about his family. I want 144 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: to get personal because I feel like it's more than 145 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: just work. You know, it's more than just work. I 146 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: wanna tell you, like know you that I'm a personal guy. 147 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: I want to know how his mom's doing, you know, 148 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: because it's bigger than just what we do. You know, 149 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: if you ask me by my family, that's great. I'm grateful. 150 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: I love to talk about my family. And I feel 151 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: like guys like talking about people like talking about their 152 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: family and just how their day's going. And that's just 153 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: the type of person I am. And that's just how 154 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: I was raised. Uh, just the you know, never waste 155 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: the time because you don't know what that person might 156 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: have h that, what that person might teach you, what 157 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: that person might give you back. So you know, I'm 158 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: so always you you never you just you know, and 159 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: you never know who you're gonna come in contact with. 160 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: You don't never know what this person is gonna be. Story, 161 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: just you know, it's real. Quickly that was at the combine. 162 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: I ended up sat at the bar, randomly started talking 163 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: to this person. Come to find out randomly this person 164 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: is the CEO of Omni Hotels. Like just just having 165 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: a small conversation, just asking how how how how do 166 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: your day has been? And it just starts like that 167 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: and then come to the end of the conversation tell 168 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: me who she is and gives me her card and 169 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: says call me if you ever need to stay anywhere. 170 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: And that's something. I didn't know who this lady was, 171 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: but that's just who you're talking. Just just talking, you know, 172 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: you never know that person might have a bad day. 173 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: Just talking to them can cheer them up. You know. 174 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: I never tell them who I am, what I do. 175 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: I just talked to him as I'm a regular person. 176 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: And if it comes to be who they are, it 177 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: is what it is. Uh. So that's just how I 178 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: care myself. I tried not to care myself as a 179 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: bad guy. I talked to everybody like you say, and 180 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: just do what I can. Before we get into the jazz, 181 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: which I want to talk about it for a few minutes. Uh. 182 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: One thing I've read about you, and I wouldn't have 183 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: known it if I hadn't read it. Um, you as 184 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: a child had a stutter. I had the same thing 185 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: when I was a kid. I still fighted at times. Um, 186 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 1: how did that shape you? And because I've read a 187 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: little bit that you think that sort of shaped you 188 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 1: a little bit coming up, and I'm just curious. You know, again, 189 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: I would never even know it, so obviously it's in 190 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: your past. Oh yeah, man, growing up, I had a 191 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: very bad stutter. Uh So kind of uh took me 192 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: away of learning because I had to get out of 193 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: some classes to go my study, my tutoring um stuttered counseling, 194 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: So that kind of held me back a little bit 195 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: on the on the on the learning process. So it 196 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: was like I was kind of being held back from that. 197 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: Uh So I tried to work my best, try to 198 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: work my artists to stop doing that. So then that 199 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: just made me just breathe, you know, when I talk, 200 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: when I feel like I'm getting to that situation, just 201 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: to breathe, take a step back and just I think 202 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,719 Speaker 1: before I speak, and uh just trying to do that 203 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: constantly doing high school. I had a student problem during 204 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 1: high school. I still stutter here and there, but I 205 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: once I feel like my mind because my mind would 206 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: just go just thoughts, thoughts. So I just want to 207 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: say everything all at want. Uh So just to really breathe, 208 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:00,599 Speaker 1: be calm, and just articulate what I want to day. 209 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: I didn't start learning. I didn't start to do that 210 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 1: until I got to college. I feel like in high 211 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: school I was still trying to get everything out until 212 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: I started to start, until I had to really start 213 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: writing papers and talking in front of classes and not 214 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: trying to embarrass myself. I really got back to just 215 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: breathing and just relaxing and just you know, taking my 216 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: time when I speak, and I feel like that's something 217 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 1: that that helped me out and that public can help 218 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 1: a lot of people out. A lot of people have 219 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 1: different stories and how they deal with it. I tried 220 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: not to look that effect uh the person who I was, 221 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: because I still talked to everybody. But it kind of 222 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 1: made a little harder around my my clap my peers 223 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: because they didn't think they didn't know that I was 224 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: dealing with that. They thought I was dealing with some 225 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: other stuff. So it kind of made me separate myself. 226 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: But I had a big family and I talked to 227 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: my family a lot, which helped me a lot, and uh, damn, 228 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 1: who I am today from it just breathe. I heard 229 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,719 Speaker 1: so much talk and so much stuff has happened the 230 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: last a few days with Leonard with unique I'm curious 231 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: if you can tell people listening to this what players 232 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: are thinking about this season right now. There's been a 233 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: lot of stuff, but my experience is usually guys talk 234 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: about that, but there's still a focus on the season 235 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: and I assume you guys feel like this is all 236 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: systems go, even with these losses. Uh. I mean to 237 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: be honest, we gotta go. We got a job to do. Uh, 238 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: it's the next man's up. Mentality is the NFL. This 239 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: is stuff that I heard about coming to the NFL. 240 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: Stuff like this happens all the time. And for players 241 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 1: such as those two wishing nothing but the best. Um, 242 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: you know, I can't speak on their situation. I can't 243 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: speak on what the front office situation. I can't only 244 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: speak on what I what what I have to do, 245 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 1: and that doesn't affect what I have to do. Uh, 246 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: And I try to, you know, relay that against that. 247 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 1: You know, everybody else we have a job. Uh, it's 248 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,719 Speaker 1: the next month up, so the person behind them has 249 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:06,599 Speaker 1: to step up. I had to make a play. I 250 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: had to earn a job. So it's just makes a 251 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: lot of people more hungrier. And I wish some nothing 252 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: but the best, like I said, but you know, we 253 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: have a job to do. We have a lot of 254 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: games that we need to win. But first game we 255 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: have to focus on, which is the coachs and uh, 256 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: we just have to prepare on that and execute what 257 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 1: we need to do and hopefully everybody comes out healthy 258 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 1: both sides. And Uh, but we come up with the wind. 259 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: Two final questions, UH, tell me about you as much 260 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: as you can talk about it. Your goals for this season? Uh? 261 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: Is this your breakout season? And what does that mean 262 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: for you when you think about it? Uh, I mean 263 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 1: breakout season. I gotta have a breakout season every year. Uh. 264 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: They consider I had a breakout season last year. Um, 265 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,079 Speaker 1: they could said I'm gonna have a breakout season this year. 266 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: It's about what I want to do, what the team 267 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: goal is, but my but my goals is team first. Um. 268 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: Individual success comes with having to team success. When the 269 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: team is going good, like when like when we have 270 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 1: a lead and we get to pin our ears back 271 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 1: insack the quarterback, that's when I have my best games. 272 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: But when we're not playing together and nobody's really doing 273 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: anything defensively offensively, you know, it's a lot of minimal 274 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: plays you can make on that. So being team orientated 275 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: and just working with the guys you have and just 276 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: doing your role. Uh, that's when people have individual success. 277 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: And then that's when I can say, all right, it's 278 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: time to get this money. It's time to go pay 279 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: my ears back and get sex or get my tax 280 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: for losses. But I felt like we have a great 281 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: group of guys this year. I got to talk to 282 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: coach Wasss this morning and he talked about just the 283 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: way he can see the defense has changed. You know, 284 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: a lot of guys say we lost a lot of 285 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: key players, but we got a lot of players that 286 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: play with that play within the system, and a gut 287 00:14:57,640 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: of guys that he can call different players because of 288 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: those eyes. Uh So I'm really excited about what we 289 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: have going on this year. Um, Like you said, look 290 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: outside looking in, they might not think we have the talent. 291 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: But if you're in our locker room, if you're in 292 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: a meeting, if you're out there on practice, you see 293 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: what type of guys and you see what type of 294 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: schemes we run, and it's gonna be really scary for 295 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: a lot of people. Man. And uh, I can't wait 296 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: to see you can't wait to put those paths on 297 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: somebody else and just to really show, you know, show, show, 298 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: show what we're talking about, Show what we've really been 299 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: putting is working in. For final question, I'm fine of 300 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: saying that you along with DJ and maybe Juwan Taylor 301 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: and some guys. If any of you, I feel like 302 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: you're the future of this franchise, you can be it. 303 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: When people say that, is that something you're comfortable with, 304 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: I guess is a top ten pick. You knew that 305 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: was gonna come along with it. Man, I just gotta 306 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: do what I gotta do. You know, Clay's told me 307 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: this a dog gonna stay a dog. And I believe 308 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: I'm one of the best. And that's how I'm gonna 309 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: carry myself. That's how I'm gonna play every play. So 310 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: that's you know, if if I got to do what 311 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: I gotta do, I got a family to feed by 312 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: the end of the day, I got, I got a 313 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: reputation I gotta uphold. I got a character that I 314 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: gotta maintain. And you know, my goals, my goal, my 315 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: my my goal of why I play football is to 316 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: be the best player. Is that we're go jacket at 317 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: the end of in my career, and I don't look 318 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: for seasonal or yearly stats. I'm looking long term. My 319 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: long FIM goals to be a Hall of Famer. And 320 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: I look at those guys, the guys that are Hall 321 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: of famers, and see how they carry themselves and talk 322 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: to those guys. Talking to Bruce Smith at the Pro Bowl, 323 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: learned so much about him, learned so much about why 324 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: he played the game and how he played the game. 325 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: And that only few me to you know, the the 326 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: stick on to what I'm doing this year. And I'm 327 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: really excited about what we have going on. Man. Uh great, 328 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: we have great players, you know, guys. People whoever sees this, 329 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: they might not think we have, but we have a 330 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: lot of great player is on this defense man and 331 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: we're trying to come out of season for everybody, not 332 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: just for myself. So Smooth, let's talk about Smooth. I'm 333 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 1: looking for him a huge year. A lot of people 334 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: might not know Smooth as a dog man, and he's 335 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 1: going to continue to be a dog and I can't 336 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: wait to see him have success this year. Tavin, Brian, 337 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 1: Avery Jones, Tim Timmy John Again. Uh, the list goes 338 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 1: on with guys that I can just name. That's I 339 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 1: feel like I can have a breakout season. But we 340 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: play within our means and you know a lot of 341 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: times we might not make the play, but we can 342 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 1: factor to our teammates making that play. And that's the 343 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: mindset we all have this year, and I'm really excited. 344 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: I'm really excited what we got going on. Josh, your 345 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: professional beyond your years. I think fans are listening to 346 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: this today. I can hear that I appreciate you. Get 347 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: back to work and I look forward to working with 348 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: you for a long time. The sir, thank you so much. 349 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: I'll talk to you later. John all right, I don't 350 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 1: want to thank Josh for joining us and our Dave. 351 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: I said at the top that I was excited about 352 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: this when and it's hard not to be excited about 353 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 1: talking to Josh Allen watching them plays great. But as 354 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: I mentioned to him in the podcast, I could have 355 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: gone on with that one forever because he's so interesting 356 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: to talk to. But as I've covered this league for 357 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 1: a while, I guess I've developed more an appreciation for 358 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: mature professional players. And there's something about this guy from 359 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: the day he walked in the door. There's a maturity 360 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 1: and a professionalism and a class that usually when you've 361 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: got that and you've got talent, it's hard to miss. 362 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: He's the whole package, and I just think he's gonna 363 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: have an unbelievable career. But I know you deal with 364 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: players as well. You dealt with a lot more of 365 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: him last year than we are this year because of COVID, 366 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: But I imagine your impressions are the same that this 367 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: kid is a great a personality, a great a worker, 368 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 1: and uh again, to me, he's the future of the franchise. John. 369 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question. How many second year 370 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: guys going into their second year have known your name? Yeah, 371 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 1: that's right, I'll say this, Uh minshows who I also 372 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: considered very self aware or very aware. He knew it 373 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: early last year, and that was another thing with with 374 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: him that I said, Okay, this cat's a little different, 375 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: But to your point, it's really rare. There are a 376 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: few guys Aaron Colvin I would talk too early. Um, 377 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: mainly because his dad was a reader and talked to 378 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: him about the stuff I wrote a lot, so he 379 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: knew me. But your point is exactly right. Josh knows 380 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 1: everybody in the building. I remember instances last year we'd 381 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 1: be sitting up at lunch and it would be a 382 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 1: couple of us who work in the broadcast department or 383 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 1: someone from PR and he would come over and sit 384 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: down and be like, Hey, how's he knows my name, 385 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: he'd be like, hey, how's your kids? You know you 386 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: can't fake that. And you know, for people who are 387 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 1: listening to this and saying, well, I don't care about 388 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: a guy being a good guy, and I guess what 389 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: I would say, And the reason we're talking about in 390 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: the podcast. It's important from a football standpoint too, because 391 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: there's something about that maturity and awareness that plays into 392 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 1: what I call getting it, and most great players on 393 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: some level get it. He just like him talking about 394 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 1: talking to Bruce Smith at the Pro Bowl. He's not 395 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: gonna waste any time. He knows it's a short career. 396 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: All that stuff plays into it. It will help him 397 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 1: on the field. I mean, I've been back here since 398 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:42,719 Speaker 1: two thousand eleven. I have more confidence that Josh Allen 399 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: is going to be a great pride to the Jaguar 400 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 1: level player then any player who has been drafted here, 401 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: and that includes Jalen because Jalen had the unbelievable talent. 402 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: But if I walked up to Generatorcy right now, I'm 403 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: not sure you know my name, And I think most 404 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: people in the Jaguar is probably feeling that's not a 405 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: knock on Jail and it's how most rookies are. It's 406 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: how most that's how a lot of players are. There's 407 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: something about having that total package. I just I would 408 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: be stunned if Josh Allen, if Josh Allen falls off 409 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: the table, if he's not a great player. And again, 410 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,880 Speaker 1: he's the top ten pick that this franchise has been 411 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 1: trying to get right for a long long time, and 412 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: I get that they should have gotten a lot more right, 413 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:34,360 Speaker 1: but they've got it right with him, and they want 414 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: they want to say that. It's hard to ask the 415 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: player his age about it because he doesn't want to 416 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 1: criticize what's going on in the past. But to me, 417 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 1: Josh serves as the breakaway point from some of the 418 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: issues that they've had in the locker room over the 419 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: past few years. I see Josh as a player who 420 00:21:54,880 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: will be a a builder of bringing together of players. 421 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: He's gonna go to DJ Shark and Joan Taylor and say, hey, 422 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: we got to talk to our guys. This isn't going right. 423 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: This is you know, he's gonna be a leader, and 424 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: he's gonna say team first an interview and he's gonna 425 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: mean it, and he's gonna walk away. And if he 426 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: sees somebody criticizing a coach or all this stuff or 427 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: all this stuff when you're just talking about your boss 428 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 1: as we all do. You know, we all talk about 429 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: peak ab and we know what that is. But yeah, 430 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: it's it's a they're not gonna let anything in the 431 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 1: locker room get out of hand. And again, to me, 432 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: he is the hope. Somehow they got fortunate and he 433 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: fell to him and it was a gift from the 434 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: football gods. And uh, in terms of the interview itself, 435 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: I was wonder if anything stood out to you, Dave Um. 436 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: It was very interesting to me. I'm always been fascinated 437 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: by his upbringing. We didn't really get into it, but 438 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 1: this is a kid who went to Alabama, came back 439 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: to New Jersey, was not very highly recruited, was not 440 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 1: really considered a cant miss player until his final year 441 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 1: at Kentucky. This is a guy who had to work 442 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: for it for a long long time, and look at 443 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 1: it now. I can't imagine he wasn't blue shift in 444 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: the tiny as eleven. But this is sort of a 445 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: guy who has worked to be here more than his 446 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: physical gifts have gotten to her. Yeah, you know, I 447 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: thought that was super interesting and it's sister sister being 448 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 1: a w NBA player. Um, the one thing I kind 449 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: of wanna kind of go back and talk about is 450 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: is you know what when we're talking about you know, 451 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 1: the maturity and stuff and players knowing people's names and 452 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,479 Speaker 1: know how the building works. Like we're not saying all 453 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: players are jerks. I think what we're saying. It's just 454 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 1: surprising how early Josh Allen like got comfortable here. And 455 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: usually rookies are still in their first year. By the 456 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:00,679 Speaker 1: end of the year, they're trying still on where the 457 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: bathroom is, where their meeting room is, They're still trying 458 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,239 Speaker 1: to figure out, like, oh, on this day, I do this, 459 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 1: On this day, I do that. We're Josh seemed like 460 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: he had that underwrapped by before training camp was over. 461 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: We've talked about it before days. But I if you 462 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: read my stories on Jaguars dot com, and I'm sure 463 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 1: there's somebody out there who does, I'll write about rookies, 464 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: but I usually write about rookies once a year or 465 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: so during their rookie year, and I'm talking to the 466 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: rookie about him, because that's usually all rookies know. They 467 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: don't know about the scheme they don't know. Very rarely 468 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: do you see a rookie become a guy that's in 469 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: all the beat writers stories that's talking about the direction 470 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 1: of the team because they're not ready for that yet. 471 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: They don't have anything to say about it. They don't 472 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: have any perspective. Josh by mid season last year, was 473 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: a guy that you could talk to about what do 474 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: you need to do to defensively? What does this team 475 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 1: need to do? Um, what's the key against the Ravens 476 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: or whoever they were playing? The team doesn't matter. Well, 477 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: that shows you that he's not vain about it. He's 478 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: not arrogant, but he was comfortable in his own skin 479 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: enough to begin speaking for the team. And the only 480 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: the the only the young player I've ever been around 481 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: who's done that, who wasn't a quarterback who has to 482 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: was Bob Sanders in Indianapolis safety played for him, got hurt, 483 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 1: his career was cut short, but by his by the 484 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: end of his rookie year, Bob was talking for the 485 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 1: team because the team knew it's okay for this guy 486 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: to talk. He's special. Last year, the team knew it's 487 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: okay for Josh to talk. He's special Bob Sanders a 488 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year in two thousand and seven. 489 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 1: If Josh is that type, which I think he is, 490 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: then you're talking about Hall of Fame level player. And 491 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: if Josh stays healthy, he plays ten twelve years. That's 492 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: the kind of player he is. He he's a franchise, cornerstone, 493 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 1: foundation piece. On the cover of Mad and Guy, he's 494 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 1: Von Miller on defense. He's the kind of guy you 495 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: can build a franchise around. And uh, yeah, maybe I'm 496 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 1: being over over zealous because there hasn't been a whole 497 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: lot to be zealous about around here for a while. 498 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 1: But to me, that's why he's so exciting because you 499 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: don't see very much. It's not the whole package with him, 500 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 1: and yeah, that's that hasn't happened enough. But you get 501 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 1: the feeling that this may be the jumping off point, 502 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: that this may be what turns it around. Yeah, he's uh, 503 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: he's definitely going in the season. I know nationally there 504 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: may not be a lot to be excited about, but 505 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 1: he's a guy that I'm excited to see. What's the 506 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 1: next step for him? You know, where where does the 507 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: production go from from his rookie year, and you know, 508 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: and also now he's the guy, so you know, offenses 509 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 1: will be scheming for him. I think, yeah, I was 510 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: just exciting. He's just he's just a good guy, is 511 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: a good guy to be around, and you know, definitely 512 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: a guy is easy to root for. He may not 513 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: match the numbers this year, frankly, because I don't know 514 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 1: that there's gonna be the past rush. If this team 515 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: trails a lot, which is perhaps possible, he may not 516 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: be in passing situations enough to do that. But you're 517 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 1: gonna see disruption. You're gonna see a big time player, 518 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 1: as you said, certainly the start of the season. That's 519 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: who teams are gonna double team because he is. He 520 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 1: is absolutely the man, and every other team knows it. 521 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: Speaking of being absolutely the man, that's gonna segway to that. 522 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: I want to thank Dave Decandice. I want to thank 523 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: Joe Fortunato for always making this production sound better than 524 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,959 Speaker 1: it is. And I want to thank Josh Allen because, frankly, 525 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: he came in during the time of the week where 526 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: was a little busy, gave a lot of time and 527 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 1: listen to the questions and really tried to make that 528 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 1: interview interesting, so it always helps when that's the case. 529 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: I appreciate him. This one certainly didn't suck. We'll try 530 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:07,959 Speaker 1: to match it next week, and thank you for listening, 531 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 1: ye