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Speaker 5: Here's Paul Calvic abready, I'm one hundred percent ready. I'm
Speaker 5: telling you abready, and Ron Wolf sleep.
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Speaker 5: Leash the fjord, I say, if you need to pick
Speaker 5: me up, just do what I just did. I just
Speaker 5: got done watching the Wired piece featuring Jonathan Gannon on
Speaker 5: the Cardinals YouTube page. Right all Access Cardinals head coach
Speaker 5: all miked up for a practice because remember JG rhymes
Speaker 5: with energy and I'm something fired up right now. For
Speaker 5: this edition to the Big Red Rage presented by santan
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Speaker 5: has packed a lunch for the next sixty minutes. Because
Speaker 5: Ron wolf Lee on assignment. We welcome Rob Fredrickson back
Speaker 5: to the airwaves and the Big Red Rage, the former
Speaker 5: Cardinals linebacker Rob. How are we doing this evening.
Speaker 6: Paulie, I'm fired up? I can tell you're fired up
Speaker 6: your energy. I mean, may you look good? To paul
Speaker 6: you've been working out or what?
Speaker 5: Thanks? I've been winning the off season. Nobody's really noticed,
Speaker 5: so thank you for pointing that out. I appreciate that.
Speaker 6: I don't know, it looks like you've been doing some
Speaker 6: pull ups on the tall Tall rack or something in
Speaker 6: the bathroom, would it?
Speaker 3: What's good?
Speaker 5: Well, anytime you use the word tall and yours, truly,
Speaker 5: I'll better get out the light at tech. So let's
Speaker 5: just put it that way. Maybe I'm so fired up
Speaker 5: because the off season is over. Next stop, Cardinals camp
Speaker 5: and Cardinals players literally least the veterans literally leaving the
Speaker 5: facility today the Arizona Cardinals Dignity Health Arizona Cardinals Training Center. Right,
Speaker 5: you tell me a decade in the NFL, what's that
Speaker 5: feeling like? Off season's over. Mandatory Mini camp is a rap.
Speaker 5: You got about five weeks or so until training camp.
Speaker 5: What are you thinking? What are you feeling as a player?
Speaker 6: You know, for the most part, I think, especially with
Speaker 6: a new coaching staff coming in and a new culture,
Speaker 6: which we'll talk about, you're gonna see a lot of
Speaker 6: guys staying around. You're gonna see a lot of guys
Speaker 6: in here tomorrow working out, Monday working out. So it's
Speaker 6: not gonna be a big mindset shift. It's just gonna be,
Speaker 6: you know, a continuation of the off season until training
Speaker 6: camp starts.
Speaker 5: Yeah, if you had a checklist for Jonathan Gannon in
Speaker 5: the off season, it would be something like this culture check,
Speaker 5: accountability check, winning behavior. You're trying to install just that
Speaker 5: right attention to detail. You're definitely trying to hit the
Speaker 5: reset button on that. In fact, the question to Jonathan
Speaker 5: Gannon here at the end of the off season was
Speaker 5: where exactly does your team stand after Mini Camp?
Speaker 7: At a point there in the offseason, it felt like
Speaker 7: we were moving fast on a lot of things, a
Speaker 7: lot of different balls in the air.
Speaker 2: But I really like.
Speaker 7: Where we are as far as where we are right
Speaker 7: now at the end of mini camp and a lot
Speaker 7: of work to be done this summer, but I think
Speaker 7: that we set a good foundation for when we come
Speaker 7: back here. You know it's going to be ratcheted up,
Speaker 7: just to tad just.
Speaker 5: A bit when you get to Cardinals camp. One of
Speaker 5: the comments that stood out to me was Xavin Collins
Speaker 5: in the media last week. Robin he said in a
Speaker 5: quote players they feel the pressure, and it's a good thing.
Speaker 5: You have new decision makers with a new head coach
Speaker 5: and a new GM, and attendance was one hundred percent
Speaker 5: across the board. Not everyone was on the field, but
Speaker 5: everyone was in the building. And uh, I'm guessing that's
Speaker 5: not a fluke that you know in a in a situation,
Speaker 5: in a league where you have to always compete for
Speaker 5: your job. Guess what. There are new eyes on this roster.
Speaker 6: Oh there are. And you know, look, you're gonna have
Speaker 6: buy in from the rookies and the and the rookie
Speaker 6: free agents that have been brought in. You're gonna have
Speaker 6: that automatic buy in. They're they're they're trying to make
Speaker 6: the squad. They're trying to put their best foot forward
Speaker 6: and and show this coaching staff what they can do.
Speaker 6: And what they're all about. So you're gonna have that
Speaker 6: whether or not the coaching staff's new or it's been
Speaker 6: here for ten years. It's it's the veterans and it's
Speaker 6: it's the the veteran free agents and the veteran players
Speaker 6: that you need to get that buy in from. And
Speaker 6: I think they're getting it because they want to also
Speaker 6: prove it. It's one of those those prove it mentality things.
Speaker 6: When you bring in a new coaching staff, you got
Speaker 6: to and you're not one of their guys, you're not
Speaker 6: one of their draft picks or one of their free
Speaker 6: agent players that they brought in. Uh, you need to
Speaker 6: prove it. You need to show them that you are
Speaker 6: a part of this team and an integral part of
Speaker 6: this team moving forward.
Speaker 5: I've talked to a number of guys who have started
Speaker 5: the conversation with Look, the allegiances that used to exist,
Speaker 5: they vanished. There are no more allegiances between the GM
Speaker 5: and the head coach and most of this roster. So
Speaker 5: when you talk about buying in and proving it, spoken
Speaker 5: like a true former player, because that's exactly what Hollywood
Speaker 5: Brown had to say this week when he was on
Speaker 5: with Wolf and Luke.
Speaker 8: I feel like everybody's in that mode of really trying
Speaker 8: to prove it and trying to be that team. We
Speaker 8: know we can be. Guys done been on good teams.
Speaker 8: You know, guys done came from good programs or other teams,
Speaker 8: are good colleges, so you kind of know what it takes.
Speaker 8: So for us, it's being here, being together, jelling, buying
Speaker 8: into whatever these coaches are laying out, and that's how
Speaker 8: we're going to beat a team that we want to be.
Speaker 5: Dennis Gardak saying this week and I quote, accountability has
Speaker 5: definitely been ratcheted up, and it was a little uncomfortable
Speaker 5: at first. There's sort of a new I mean, there's
Speaker 5: definitely a new head coach and there's a new way
Speaker 5: about things. But Rob, to me, it was absolutely necessary
Speaker 5: because how many times of the last couple of years
Speaker 5: did we talk after games about Cardinals beating Cardinals. That accountability,
Speaker 5: the attention to detail, which matters in the NFL. Little
Speaker 5: things are big things. For example, we were talking about
Speaker 5: penalties and I asked Greig Greeler the other day, I
Speaker 5: just said, didn't the Cardinals finish top three last year?
Speaker 5: And then two years earlier they had led the league
Speaker 5: in penalties, and it was true. And Craig Grier loose style.
Speaker 5: His new nickname is AI, by the way, for artificial intelligence.
Speaker 5: He drilled deeper into it. You realize the Cardinals had
Speaker 5: one hundred and eighteen accepted penalties last year, that was
Speaker 5: most in the NFL, and fifty two of them were
Speaker 5: pre snap, the most pre snap penalties in the NFL.
Speaker 5: To me, that's attention to detail.
Speaker 6: It's completely attention to detail. It's discipline. And you know,
Speaker 6: the product they put on the field last season, quite frankly,
Speaker 6: it just wasn't good enough, Paul. And so for them
Speaker 6: to come into this offseason and come into these training
Speaker 6: mini camps and not you know, be on their toes,
Speaker 6: that that would be even more concerning.
Speaker 2: But they didn't.
Speaker 6: They came in, they put their best foot forward, the players,
Speaker 6: and they they're buying into what Gannon is trying to do.
Speaker 6: And and it's a culture shift, it's a change. And
Speaker 6: they're they're they're not good enough to be blase and
Speaker 6: then where's the tea time after after practice. They're not
Speaker 6: that good right now, good enough to do that right now?
Speaker 6: They really need to focus on the minute small details
Speaker 6: and get those things really hunkered down. Otherwise you know
Speaker 6: it's it's going to be a struggle.
Speaker 5: I mean, think how many players this offseason have told
Speaker 5: us about the Cardinals emphasis and offense to run the ball, right,
Speaker 5: I mean, whether it's Cole McCoy or Will Hernandez, de Jumfrees,
Speaker 5: James Connor. In fact, we're talking to Keanta Ingram here
Speaker 5: in a few moments, Cardinal's running back just about that
Speaker 5: new attitude, the new approach, especially on offense. But there's
Speaker 5: going to be a much more physical style of football,
Speaker 5: at least that's the way the coaching staff tells it.
Speaker 5: That's the vibe the players are getting. Obviously, it's what
Speaker 5: Jonathan Gannon calls pajama ball in the offseason. You've yet
Speaker 5: to go full contact, full speed, full pads, but I
Speaker 5: think it's gonna look different, just the brand of football
Speaker 5: rob once we get to August and Cardinals camp.
Speaker 6: I don't think there's a coaching staff in the NFL
Speaker 6: that doesn't say we're going to emphasize the run game
Speaker 6: this year. The difference is will you stay committed and
Speaker 6: true to that mantra? Will you stay committed to running
Speaker 6: the ball? When maybe the last possession was three and
Speaker 6: out and you went three and out for two or
Speaker 6: three possessions in a row, will you continue to stay
Speaker 6: dedicated to running the football? I think, look, look for
Speaker 6: Kyler Murray's growth, and this is this is an important
Speaker 6: year for him. Obviously, first you got you got to
Speaker 6: get him healthy and get him on the field, but
Speaker 6: for his growth to have an offense and their mentality,
Speaker 6: the number one mentality being run the ball. I think
Speaker 6: that's only going to ben a that Kyler. The play
Speaker 6: action pass comes off of that, and he can he
Speaker 6: can make some of those throws on time, which is
Speaker 6: going to be a point of emphasis is getting that
Speaker 6: ball out of his hands on time so he doesn't
Speaker 6: take those hits and he doesn't have to run around
Speaker 6: and try and add lib that. That to me is
Speaker 6: really going to spell growth for Kyler. And if Kyler's
Speaker 6: growing and if Kyler's benefiting from that run game, and
Speaker 6: the entire team is really going to benefit.
Speaker 5: And we're going to talk again at count Ingram about
Speaker 5: that run game. We're also going to hear Jonathan Gann
Speaker 5: and Wired Up a little bit later in the show,
Speaker 5: and we'll talk about XAVI and Collins Isaiah Simmons, who
Speaker 5: I think are the two biggest individual questions on the
Speaker 5: Cardinals defense. But did zoom out in this brand new defense.
Speaker 5: If you were to ask me the position groups that
Speaker 5: are most undecided so far the most to figure out,
Speaker 5: I'd say the top three are on the defensive side
Speaker 5: of the ball, between D line, corner and edge. What
Speaker 5: do you what are you going to be looking for
Speaker 5: once we get around August in the three preseason games
Speaker 5: and you're camp Nick Rowlis. You know, young defensive coordinators
Speaker 5: Jonathan Gannon's system coming from Philadelphia, but you know there's
Speaker 5: so many question marks and unknowns with this Cardinals defense.
Speaker 5: Where do you start? You think once we get to August.
Speaker 6: I think primarily you hit the nail on the head
Speaker 6: is cornerback. That's the key position. But also getting pressure
Speaker 6: on a quarterback and who are going to be those
Speaker 6: outside redge, outside edge pass rushers that the Cardinals can
Speaker 6: rely on and get some good pressure and get some
Speaker 6: good movement in the pocket there. That's going to be important.
Speaker 6: And then obviously we talked about it a little bit
Speaker 6: Isaiah Simmons and Zae and Collins, where do they fit
Speaker 6: in his defense? They're too good athletically to not have
Speaker 6: a prominent role in this defense.
Speaker 5: It was interesting. Zach Ertz was asked by Wolf and
Speaker 5: Luke about the offense. He said, how different is it
Speaker 5: from a last year? He said, it couldn't be more different.
Speaker 5: What Cliff was doing, what Drew Petsen is doing right now.
Speaker 5: On defense. I'm curious because Jonathan Gannon led the NFL
Speaker 5: in sacks a year ago with the Eagles. He had
Speaker 5: seventy to fifteen, more than any other team. But they
Speaker 5: didn't have to blitz. They didn't have to they had
Speaker 5: an unbelievable front seven. Yeah, this year, remember John and
Speaker 5: again is famous saying adapt or die. I think he
Speaker 5: might be forced to dialod up a lot more.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's all about personnel. And if you don't have
Speaker 6: to bring that extra man or two men, and you
Speaker 6: can get away with Russian four, that's obviously the primary
Speaker 6: thing that you want to have accomplished. But if you
Speaker 6: have to bring those extra guys, I expect Gannon to
Speaker 6: dial it up.
Speaker 5: A season six episode four Cardinals flight Plan if you
Speaker 5: haven't seen it, great stuff. I mean up and down
Speaker 5: the war room with Manti asin Ford. Just go to
Speaker 5: the Cardinals YouTube page, YouTube dot com slash a Z Cardinals.
Speaker 5: The rookies going out to a d Backs game. Lots
Speaker 5: of good stuff, all right, he was a rookie last year.
Speaker 5: Year two for Keanta Ingram, he's our B two, we
Speaker 5: think behind James Connor. We'll talk about all that and more.
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Speaker 9: Very straight drop back looking to throw, dumps it off
Speaker 9: short left pought Binger to the thirty drunk attackle dear
Speaker 9: side forty runs right forty.
Speaker 4: Five, so it's another tackle. Ingram had a fifty yard line,
Speaker 4: tries to cut it back and finally take it down.
Speaker 4: But that's a gain of twenty five for Keyante Ingram.
Speaker 1: You talk about run after the catch right there, that
Speaker 1: is big time.
Speaker 9: Kyante snapped to Murray, gonna give to Ingram, running straight ahead.
Speaker 5: Ingram's diving for the goal line and he's into the
Speaker 5: end zone.
Speaker 4: This curse NFL touchdown.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: Right there, Baby, light up in the pistol, hand the
Speaker 1: ball off to Kyante Ingram. Let him stick that thing
Speaker 1: in there. A great job at the point of attack.
Speaker 5: Hey, you want someone who can run it, someone who
Speaker 5: can catch it, someone who can make a man miss
Speaker 5: or powered in from the goal line like that two
Speaker 5: yard touchdown his first career against the Saints last year.
Speaker 5: You want someone who could be a two hundred and
Speaker 5: forty pounds power back like he was at Texas, or
Speaker 5: a two hundred and twenty pounder who's going to make
Speaker 5: you miss. That would be our guest tonight on the
Speaker 5: Big Red Rage Keyonte Ingram All presented by santan Ford
Speaker 5: and Gilbert We are santan Ford, Keante is no longer
Speaker 5: a rookie. It is year two. How are you different
Speaker 5: this time this year versus this time last year when
Speaker 5: we first met you and talked to you.
Speaker 2: Just my knowledge of the game and how I approach it,
Speaker 2: you know, just sitting around veterans who did it over
Speaker 2: and over, especially like James Connor, then learning from you know, Benjamin,
Speaker 2: then big hump over there, you know how hump is.
Speaker 2: You know, So just sitting in a room those guys,
Speaker 2: you don't have no choice but to soak off all
Speaker 2: the knowledge, squad tissue word, just small detailed things, whatever
Speaker 2: the case may be.
Speaker 5: You know, I remember you saying between I don't know,
Speaker 5: high school Texas and then your final year at USC
Speaker 5: you studied James Connor. You used to study his film
Speaker 5: when you were in college.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, most definitely. I study probably any running back
Speaker 2: you can think of, man, I think that's a running.
Speaker 5: So what have you learned being a teammate of James
Speaker 5: Connor as guy has gone to two Pro Bowls?
Speaker 2: Man, One thing I learned being discipline and consistent. You know,
Speaker 2: it's not about going out there and throwing them the
Speaker 2: most amount of weight. It's about going out there and
Speaker 2: being consistent, going out there every day and doing it.
Speaker 2: You know. That's the point that I learned from James Connor.
Speaker 2: And then just getting close to him. You see why
Speaker 2: he's a Pro Bowl. You see why you having you.
Speaker 5: Having so Keyanta Ingram is our guest here in the
Speaker 5: Big Red Rage, and we asked him about you recently
Speaker 5: and he just talked about the leap you've taken from
Speaker 5: year one to year two. So just talks in terms
Speaker 5: of your ability, your skill set. You know, what do
Speaker 5: you wane right now? How is it feeling out and
Speaker 5: how are you fitting into this offense? Or give us
Speaker 5: an overall update on you.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, man, So the off season going great. I'm
Speaker 2: two hundred and twenty pounds right now, I'm feeling lean,
Speaker 2: I'm feeling mean. At the same time, the system's gonna
Speaker 2: fit me well. Me and James Connor were both excited
Speaker 2: about it, especially us being more downhill body type guys,
Speaker 2: bigger back type guys. So we excited learning the system,
Speaker 2: getting familiar with it. Just the time and the catuses
Speaker 2: the chemistry that the office need, just breaking all those
Speaker 2: points down, and I feel like we got a pretty
Speaker 2: good preview of that come out of Ota. So now
Speaker 2: we got a little bit momentum going in fall camping,
Speaker 2: just trying to get.
Speaker 5: Ready for zach Ertz was asked in this studio a
Speaker 5: couple of days ago, just how different is this offense
Speaker 5: versus last year, and he said it couldn't be any
Speaker 5: more different. So kind of filling the blank, I mean,
Speaker 5: you know what, what what are some of your initial
Speaker 5: takeaways of this scheme by Drew Petsing multiple offense.
Speaker 2: That's how I like to look at it. You got
Speaker 2: to run in the past, We're gonna be a lot
Speaker 2: more balanced. I feel like that's what the team kind
Speaker 2: of wanted. You can tell the big guys up front
Speaker 2: kind of want that too. So if they wanted, we
Speaker 2: want at the zame dumb.
Speaker 5: So what's it like for running back when you're getting
Speaker 5: the handoff from a quarterback that's under center versus when
Speaker 5: you're in the gun?
Speaker 2: I say time in reaction of the play you got.
Speaker 2: I know where you're going and what movie you're gonna
Speaker 2: make getting it from the five yards from the line
Speaker 2: of scrimms, because at the end of the day, you
Speaker 2: five yards form a line of scrimmers. You know the
Speaker 2: difference coming downhill man, you got the best seed in
Speaker 2: the house. You know everybody want that, you know, so,
Speaker 2: uh now we're getting that opportunity. Now it's time to
Speaker 2: go maximize.
Speaker 5: So whether it's Will Hernandez or DJ Humphreys or Colt McCoy,
Speaker 5: James Connor, I mean even Zach Er, it's everyone. When
Speaker 5: asked about this offense, their first initial takeaway is we're
Speaker 5: gonna run the ball more right, And there's that enthusiasm
Speaker 5: you smile. What is it about that? I mean, you
Speaker 5: know how fired up does that get you? Oh?
Speaker 2: Man, locked and loaded? You know it was back some
Speaker 2: of the stuff we kind of do. I kind of
Speaker 2: did a high school a little bit, so I'm very
Speaker 2: excited there, especially just to see new faces, see how
Speaker 2: we're gonna use them in the offense and use everybody
Speaker 2: to that capability. I feel like that's the fun part
Speaker 2: about it. You can tell everybody. Boy.
Speaker 5: So, so for those who don't know, Kanta Ngrim is
Speaker 5: our guest. You were a big time high school for
Speaker 5: in the state of Texas. You won a couple of
Speaker 5: state titles in the Cowboys Stadium Kyler won three, right.
Speaker 5: I mean, you guys have a lot in common. You
Speaker 5: were one of the most highly sought after recruits in
Speaker 5: the country, went to Texas, finished at USC. I mean,
Speaker 5: it's interesting between you, Kyler, Colt McCoy, even Clayton Tune
Speaker 5: big time. You know, for those of us who have
Speaker 5: only read the book or seen the movie or the
Speaker 5: TV series Friday Night Lights, how real is that to
Speaker 5: the fabric and culture of being a Texan.
Speaker 2: I feel like the best way to sum it up
Speaker 2: is just to say it's a religion. I feel like
Speaker 2: most states don't take on the grit that Texas take on.
Speaker 2: And I'm aware that we'll prize.
Speaker 5: So you were like a USA today, all American is
Speaker 5: like a sixteen or seventeen year old. What was that like?
Speaker 5: I mean, you were a legitimate celebrity halfway through high school,
Speaker 5: weren't you.
Speaker 2: No, it was it was very different, you know, especially
Speaker 2: with football. But I kind of it's in our culture,
Speaker 2: It's in our blood, you know, So you really don't
Speaker 2: look at it like that until you really go. I
Speaker 2: guess outside of the states such as like USC and
Speaker 2: do you really see the difference in it, you know?
Speaker 2: But yeah, man, I feel like it's just in our blood.
Speaker 5: You seem like you're really grounded. But was there a
Speaker 5: version of teenage version of Kanty Ingram who maybe got
Speaker 5: a big ego, a big head.
Speaker 2: Uh. I never was a big ego guy. I was
Speaker 2: very confident, confident, you know. I really believe in my abilities,
Speaker 2: what I can do. How I see the game. I've
Speaker 2: been playing the game since four or five years old,
Speaker 2: way back in flag football, you know, and the mechanics
Speaker 2: still the same. I still got to put it in
Speaker 2: the end zone and you got to have the extra
Speaker 2: grid to have it. And I feel like I haven't
Speaker 2: lost it, you know.
Speaker 5: So before I asked Kanty Ingram about Kyler Murray. Let's
Speaker 5: hear it from Hollywood. Brown recently on The Wolf and
Speaker 5: Luke Show, just talking about how motivated Kyler is these days.
Speaker 8: Kyle is a guy, he's a competitor. So for him,
Speaker 8: you know, he hear the talks of oh he not
Speaker 8: gonna be able to do this or do that.
Speaker 5: He gonna be so for him.
Speaker 2: He's dolled in.
Speaker 8: You know, He's always been a chip on his shoulder guy,
Speaker 8: so he got even bigger chip now he's just he's
Speaker 8: going after.
Speaker 5: What do you see? I mean, you've been familiar with
Speaker 5: Kyler's game since high school? What do you see this
Speaker 5: year as he rehabs from the torny ac all?
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, you see it. I mean you check his resume.
Speaker 2: Hout to speak for itself, you know, and when you're
Speaker 2: on that level, that's what come with it. And the
Speaker 2: guys who been in those doors a couple of times
Speaker 2: or know what that feel like that we understand, you know,
Speaker 2: we see it, and we all behind them. You know,
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, you know, he's our captain,
Speaker 2: he's athletic.
Speaker 5: We're gonna roll With NFL Network the other day they
Speaker 5: showed a replay Cardinals Seahawks from Week nine. It was
Speaker 5: the first game where the Cardinals took the opening possession
Speaker 5: and scored a touchdown, and as part of that drive,
Speaker 5: Kyler ripped off a big third down run. You could
Speaker 5: just see how deflating that was for Seattle's defense.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean.
Speaker 5: What does that do? Like when you're in the huddle
Speaker 5: and you're on the field and then all of a
Speaker 5: sudden Kyler breaks loose and he makes it to the sticks.
Speaker 5: How backbreaking is that for a defense? Oh?
Speaker 2: Man, that's very backbreaking, especially when you put in hours,
Speaker 2: hours and then you got the pocket collapses just to
Speaker 2: keep him in the pocket. Then he get a big
Speaker 2: game on third down. You know, that's backlash, especially with
Speaker 2: an athlete like that, who can throw it and run it,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, And who can know the game,
Speaker 2: who can line everybody up and be consistent with it,
Speaker 2: you know, especially put being five to ten, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. You just can't go out there and
Speaker 2: do that at five ten.
Speaker 5: So how much respect does he get just running the
Speaker 5: ball from the running backs Kyler Murray?
Speaker 2: Oh he got a lot of respect. BA at the
Speaker 2: end of the day, you know, We're here for a reason. No,
Speaker 2: that's good. That's good.
Speaker 5: And look, I mean, how do you see yourself fitting
Speaker 5: into this? We know the days of a single premiere,
Speaker 5: three hundred and four hundred carry running back in the
Speaker 5: NFL or dead with the exception of maybe Derrick Henry. Okay,
Speaker 5: I mean, you got to have more than just James Conner.
Speaker 5: It's a seventeen game season. So as you envision and
Speaker 5: have goals for this season, what do you hope to
Speaker 5: achieve this.
Speaker 2: Year to be the best version of me for the
Speaker 2: sake of the team. You know, I'm a young guy,
Speaker 2: haven't done nothing yet. I'm still earning my strikes for
Speaker 2: my teammates, guys who won Pro bos and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: So be that it factor when I step in line
Speaker 2: and then when my numbers call h That's the biggest
Speaker 2: thing for me, you know.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 5: Xavi and Collins said the other day that players feel
Speaker 5: the pressure with a new GM, a new head coach.
Speaker 5: He said, it's a good thing. It's definitely ramped things up.
Speaker 5: But tell us what is the vibe like? What is
Speaker 5: the culture like? Since Jonathan Gannett.
Speaker 2: Took over oh Man, different different approach, a lot more
Speaker 2: guys discipline, you know, being consistent of what they want
Speaker 2: and how they approach their business going coming through the door.
Speaker 2: I feel like that's the main thing you could tell
Speaker 2: workout programs, practice, how JG take care of us. But
Speaker 2: when it's time to go, it's time to go, you know.
Speaker 2: And that's one thing he preached about the game, you know.
Speaker 2: So you feel in the locker room, you're hearing the
Speaker 2: guys voices. You hear guys excited here, guys motivated, you know,
Speaker 2: regardless of what outside. That's what come with it, you know.
Speaker 2: But man, we're excited where to go.
Speaker 5: He talks about winning behavior versus non winning behavior, and
Speaker 5: he doesn't hesitate the whole guy's accountable, does he?
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, not at all.
Speaker 5: Because you hear it on the practice field. What's it
Speaker 5: like behind the scenes, because guys have told stories where
Speaker 5: he'll call someone on a meeting to make sure they're
Speaker 5: paying attention.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, he caught me a few times. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he caught me a few times.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, man, JAG just
Speaker 2: want the best for us in the sake of the team.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. He pulled me over one
Speaker 2: time they're in Bob Hemling. He's like, man, I hope
Speaker 2: the guys really understand men and hides and the low days.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I like, Coach, they understand
Speaker 2: you know, you feel in the locker room, you see
Speaker 2: it in the energy.
Speaker 5: So were you ready when he called on you?
Speaker 2: Oh? Heck yeah?
Speaker 5: What do you want to know? Was it in the playbook?
Speaker 5: Was it a scheme question? What did he come at
Speaker 5: you with?
Speaker 10: No?
Speaker 2: No, he was just asking me. He was just telling
Speaker 2: me about, you know, gaining the team trust as far
Speaker 2: as like how we operated in and how the guys
Speaker 2: feel about high days and low days. High days we
Speaker 2: go full speed, load days when we make it easy,
Speaker 2: you know, and hopefully the guys don't get frustrated with
Speaker 2: the approach that we take it.
Speaker 5: So, you know, the music's playing. It save you. You're
Speaker 5: saved by the music, Conte, because I was going to
Speaker 5: bag on you for USC destroying the Pac twelve and
Speaker 5: leaving for the Big ten. I mean, come on, how
Speaker 5: does that? How does that make sense? Kante? USC in
Speaker 5: the Big ten? Come on, what's going on there?
Speaker 2: It makes a lot of sense, man, It makes a
Speaker 2: lot of sense. That do you take over the pay
Speaker 2: You gotta do something.
Speaker 5: Well, look, we're looking forward to you and James Connor
Speaker 5: and that whole running back room. I know the narrative
Speaker 5: in the NFL is the running back position has been devalued.
Speaker 5: I have a feeling you guys are gonna prove everyone
Speaker 5: different this year.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I got it. I got that feeling.
Speaker 5: Toote bust de luck this season. Appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, thank you.
Speaker 5: There you go. County Ingram Cardinals running back. You know what,
Speaker 5: he's got some downtime until training camp starts the end
Speaker 5: of July. We continue with the Big Red Raid presented
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Speaker 2: Let's go out of huddle, get your eyes to the offense.
Speaker 5: Get know the huddle, Get your eyes in the offense.
Speaker 11: How you showing getting all the mental adjustments checks. You
Speaker 11: know what I think we gotta do a better job
Speaker 11: of is getting us I'm you on at the offense,
Speaker 11: you know, get him out of the huddle and get
Speaker 11: your eyes to the offense. We shouldn't be like mulling around,
Speaker 11: like looking around at each other, like get your eyes
Speaker 11: of the offense. So we can start identifying. Be ahead
Speaker 11: of the motion. Yeah, like we gotta break, get in
Speaker 11: a huddle, getting Yeah, a little too late. We got
Speaker 11: guys like kind of moving around us and that like
Speaker 11: you set that tempo, get in.
Speaker 5: Down the huddle, let's go. That's what I was talking about.
Speaker 5: Off the top of the show. It's a little clip there,
Speaker 5: Jonathan Gann wired up at OTAs he's talking to Kaiser Whitest,
Speaker 5: quarterback of the defense, the middle linebacker. I tell you
Speaker 5: Rob Frederickson sitting in for Ron Woefully Paul Kelbc over here.
Speaker 5: And it's a simple age old question, but not everyone agrees,
Speaker 5: so true or false, Rob Frederickson. A team takes on
Speaker 5: the personality of its head.
Speaker 6: Coach's that's the total truth. That's that's truth and true
Speaker 6: in business, in life, you take on the personality of
Speaker 6: your leader. And because that's that's a position, that person
Speaker 6: is in the leadership role.
Speaker 5: You did the college thing, right, Michigan State. Yeah, you
Speaker 5: did the pro thing. You know, the Lions and the
Speaker 5: Cardinals and the Raiders, former first round pick. Does it
Speaker 5: have stain power that sort of energy with a bunch
Speaker 5: of grown men with mortgages and kids to support? You
Speaker 5: know that whole energy thing. How do you think that
Speaker 5: works over the course of an entire season. And I
Speaker 5: bring that up in the context that it is genuine,
Speaker 5: I mean from all aspects and perspectives. I mean that
Speaker 5: is just genuine natural energy that you get twenty four
Speaker 5: to seven with Jonathan Gannon.
Speaker 6: It works easier in college because you have a bit
Speaker 6: more control over the players. Where it wears thin in
Speaker 6: the professional game is when you keep stacking losses after
Speaker 6: losses after losses, and you know, you keep hearing that
Speaker 6: same message. That's where it can wear thin on these guys.
Speaker 6: You're right, they got mortgages, they're professionals, they're adults. You
Speaker 6: gotta find a way to motivate them. But yet you
Speaker 6: can't be too raw rab because at the end of
Speaker 6: the day, these guys are professionals.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And it's not to say that he is ra
Speaker 5: ra all the time. I shouldn't give that that sense
Speaker 5: because look, we've heard stories. Zavian Collins with a great
Speaker 5: story in the offseason about how he came into meeting
Speaker 5: number one, team meeting number one, and he's eating his eggs,
Speaker 5: He's got his breakfast, his little bowl from the cafeteria
Speaker 5: and the next day he shows up and his numbers
Speaker 5: up on the PowerPoint he got. He was put on
Speaker 5: blast by Jonathan Gannon. That'll shout not multitask in one
Speaker 5: of my team meetings, because if you're eating breakfast, then
Speaker 5: you're not one hundred percent undivided attention on the task
Speaker 5: at hand, which is this scheme that we're learning about.
Speaker 5: So I think a lot of that has been instilled.
Speaker 5: Guys have learned quickly. They've made a few decisions on
Speaker 5: a couple of players, former first round picks Zavian Collins
Speaker 5: will get to in a minute. Isaiah Simmons is now
Speaker 5: running exclusively with the defensive backs, and by that we
Speaker 5: mean that appears to be the one position he is
Speaker 5: to me tesked with until he proves he can really
Speaker 5: execute that position. In fact, Isaiah was talking to the
Speaker 5: media about just that.
Speaker 10: I've been with the defensive backs so far, so you know,
Speaker 10: we're kind of taking it from there as of now,
Speaker 10: so moving forward, I'll be with the defensive backs. Feel
Speaker 10: like I got a real good grasp on the playbook.
Speaker 10: Everybody in the building's real cool. Everybody knew who we've
Speaker 10: added players staff as so I'm doing good.
Speaker 5: What's your take. You've watched Isaiah Simmons entire Cardinals career,
Speaker 5: what do you think about where he's at and where
Speaker 5: do you think he's going as a player.
Speaker 6: A phenomenal athlete coming out of Clemson. He played virtually
Speaker 6: every position on defense in college, and all that was
Speaker 6: on tape. So you know, I can see where a
Speaker 6: talent evaluator would be mesmerized with with just the raw
Speaker 6: talent that this player has, and you know, drafting him
Speaker 6: and bringing him in here and then moving him around
Speaker 6: to different positions line, inside, linebacker, rushing on the outside,
Speaker 6: slot corner, some safety, deep, middle safety. It can be
Speaker 6: a little overwhelming, especially for a young player because there's
Speaker 6: so much more in this game versus the college game
Speaker 6: in terms of responsibilities defensively, and when motions and shifts
Speaker 6: and and things the offense does pre snap, those those
Speaker 6: change those responsibilities and you have to then change what
Speaker 6: you're doing, and that can all happen in a in
Speaker 6: a snap of a finger. So that was that was
Speaker 6: a lot put on Isaiah early on. So I give
Speaker 6: him the benefit of the doubt from from that respect.
Speaker 6: As a player, again, you know, he's he's extremely talented.
Speaker 6: He's he's a linear player in my estimation, and what
Speaker 6: I mean by that is he's a straight line guy.
Speaker 6: You know, he's he's got the straight line speed and
Speaker 6: he's got the straight line explosion. Where he struggles, though,
Speaker 6: is that change of direction. And maybe maybe he's got
Speaker 6: some tight hips where he you know, he can't get
Speaker 6: in and out of cuts and and and that that
Speaker 6: shows up in coverage situations.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the line that he was drafted to cover the
Speaker 5: tight end hasn't always excelled in that role, especially against
Speaker 5: the Travis Kelcey's and George Kittles of the world.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's not just tight ends either, It's it's running
Speaker 6: backs coming out of the backfield. I remember early on,
Speaker 6: I think maybe it was his first game against San Francisco.
Speaker 6: He was exposed early on, and and you know, the
Speaker 6: coaching staff may have done him a disservice back then,
Speaker 6: you know, and in terms of coaching him up and
Speaker 6: getting him prepared for those situations because it is different
Speaker 6: than college. You know, the running back is going to
Speaker 6: run routes differently. Tight ends are going to run routes
Speaker 6: differently better.
Speaker 5: And maybe his college resume was a disservice to him
Speaker 5: in some ways. He played so many positions at Clemson.
Speaker 5: I think it caught the intrigue of the the Cardinals
Speaker 5: coaches the previous staff and said, Wow, okay, we can
Speaker 5: make him an X factor. The quarterback's gonna break the huddle.
Speaker 5: Where's Isaiah Simmons. He could be anywhere on any given
Speaker 5: play and we're gonna dial him up accordingly. And never
Speaker 5: quite mastered one position. So you've seen Nick Raulis and
Speaker 5: Jonathan Gannon tell them you're with the safeties. You're gonna
Speaker 5: be right behind Buddha Baker and Jalen Thompson. We'll see now,
Speaker 5: we'll see if he's in the slot quite a bit
Speaker 5: in certain packages because if you look at the percentage
Speaker 5: of snaps played, slot corner was the most he played
Speaker 5: of any position last year. So he could be, especially
Speaker 5: if you're Thinn at corner in this particular roster. We'll
Speaker 5: see about that. But that's obviously a very intriguing storyline
Speaker 5: throughout Cardinals camp. How does he adapt? You know, can
Speaker 5: he be that guy? And then you have Zaman Collins
Speaker 5: who was taken Round one a year later, who is
Speaker 5: your mic linebacker? A year ago. He's now on the
Speaker 5: outside at least he's been there the entirety of the offseason,
Speaker 5: and fellow outside linebacker Dennis Gardak had this to say
Speaker 5: this week.
Speaker 12: He's gotta be one of the smartest outside backers there's
Speaker 12: ever been, just coming from inside. He knows how everything's
Speaker 12: tied together so well. So he's incredibly smart. And then
Speaker 12: he's actually huge. Yeah, if you guys haven't noticed, I
Speaker 12: saw a picture of me next to him, and I
Speaker 12: look like his kid brother.
Speaker 5: So and he's not kidding. I mean, he's every bit
Speaker 5: of six four, might be closer to six ' five.
Speaker 5: He's two sixty plus. He can move. You talk about
Speaker 5: covering the running backs and tight ends. I thought that
Speaker 5: was an underrated part of his game last year. He
Speaker 5: was really good in coverage downfield at times. What do
Speaker 5: you think you played outside linebacker for, you know, all
Speaker 5: those years in the NFL. How does Xavion Collins make
Speaker 5: the transition? In your opinion, Yeah.
Speaker 6: It's a It's a totally different move for xavan Collins
Speaker 6: going from middle linebacker to outside linebacker in this scheme
Speaker 6: where where he's basically coming off the edge. He's an
Speaker 6: edge rusher, I played outside linebacker. I was I was
Speaker 6: a coverage linebacker, so totally different. But Zavin, you know,
Speaker 6: just looking at him from a physical standpoint, he's got
Speaker 6: all the tools he has. He's he's got got the
Speaker 6: burst off the line of scrimmage, he's got the size,
Speaker 6: he's got the strength, and and you heard Gardak talking
Speaker 6: about his intelligence, so he's got all of the things there.
Speaker 6: But again just just you know, just like Isaiah Simmons,
Speaker 6: it's not the easiest thing in the world to just
Speaker 6: snap your fingers and say, okay, you're you're our outside
Speaker 6: pass rusher. Now, there there's a there's guys that spend
Speaker 6: their entire careers and and through college and through high
Speaker 6: school learning the craft of pass rushing. It's not just
Speaker 6: like you can just put a guy out there and
Speaker 6: say go get me twelve sacks this year, and you
Speaker 6: know that that's that's a tall order, and so you
Speaker 6: know that's that's going to be interesting to see his development.
Speaker 6: I think for both of those guys, David Zavid Collins
Speaker 6: and and Isaiah Simmons, it's a big time prove it.
Speaker 5: Year for everything that Nick Rowlis and Drew Patsen and
Speaker 5: Jeff Rodgers, the coordinators bring to this Cardinals coaching staff.
Speaker 5: To me the potential m VP of this staff, Rob
Speaker 5: rod Rigas the outside linebacker's coach, who was with ASU,
Speaker 5: A Zavan Collins, A Dennis Gardek, BJ Ojalari. You got
Speaker 5: a Cam Thomas, my J Sanders in year two? Guys
Speaker 5: who got to take that leap? I mean he's got
Speaker 5: a tall task, you know eighteen year thirty six sacks
Speaker 5: walked out the door last year and Zach Allen and
Speaker 5: JJ Watt and now you have a XAVI and Collins
Speaker 5: who who looks as the skill set? And what's interesting, Rob?
Speaker 5: You tell me? Gardik went on and said that it's
Speaker 5: going to be so much easier to play outside backer
Speaker 5: versus Mike because now, look, it's real simple either the
Speaker 5: plays coming at you or it's going away from you.
Speaker 5: That it's going to be so much easier to diagnose
Speaker 5: and react as opposed to playing Mike linebacker. Not to
Speaker 5: mention he's no loarker calling the defense and responsible for
Speaker 5: getting everybody aligned.
Speaker 6: Well, I agree, the responsibilities are are more simplified, more
Speaker 6: distilled at outside linebacker when your primary purpose is to
Speaker 6: get pressure on the quarterback. Versus middle linebacker where you
Speaker 6: have to diagnose everything and see everything and communicate pre
Speaker 6: snap and post snap with all the other players. So
Speaker 6: you know, there's a lot more on your plate as
Speaker 6: a middle linebacker versus an outside linebacker from the mental standpoint,
Speaker 6: but physically again, it's a new learning curve for him
Speaker 6: and he's going to have to see how, you know,
Speaker 6: how how quickly he can pick that up.
Speaker 5: By the way, Josh Woods, veteran inside linebackers, said this
Speaker 5: week to Wolf and Luke that he thinks saving quote
Speaker 5: is going to be an amazing player in this league.
Speaker 5: He doesn't even know all he can do at outside linebacker.
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Speaker 9: Murray and Shotgun takes the snap, drops back to pass,
Speaker 9: looks right, throws right. More fought at thirty, turns right
Speaker 9: twenty five to.
Speaker 4: Twenty four, breaks a tackle to the ten to the
Speaker 4: five touchdown. There's the explosive play from Rondale More.
Speaker 5: We have been waiting for shotgun formation. Snap to Murray,
Speaker 5: quick throw a left side.
Speaker 9: It's pot at the one and into the.
Speaker 2: End zone for the touchdown.
Speaker 9: Is Craig dors Murray in an empty set in Shotgun
Speaker 9: takes the snap, restep drop, looks over the middle, throws
Speaker 9: and it's bought by Brown.
Speaker 5: First down, makes a man mess at the fifteen, cuts
Speaker 5: right to the ten.
Speaker 4: Hip Ron is into the end to before the touchdown.
Speaker 4: Hollywood Brown best Ben spectacular.
Speaker 1: What an incredible play by Hollywood Brown.
Speaker 5: He was spectacular first six games of the season, no argument.
Speaker 5: He was top five, top seven and catches and receiving yards.
Speaker 5: I mean it was for a Cardinals offense that really
Speaker 5: never hit full strike all year, but Hollywood Brown was producing.
Speaker 5: And Rob Frodgerson sitting in for Ron Wolfe her Dave
Speaker 5: Pasch there on the call. Welcome back into the Big
Speaker 5: Red Rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert, who needs
Speaker 5: size as a receiver. When you get separation, right, that's
Speaker 5: the mantra with those three guys. They have enough quickness
Speaker 5: and burst and hopefully the route running that they effectively
Speaker 5: separate from the defensive back. Now we say that, of course,
Speaker 5: the Cardinals added some size at the position in the offseason.
Speaker 5: We'll get a little bit into that, but rarely were
Speaker 5: those three together a year ago, and now minus DeAndre Hopkins,
Speaker 5: it would appear those guys are going to get their
Speaker 5: share of reps. What do you think might be in
Speaker 5: store in their future this season?
Speaker 6: Well, you mentioned no DeAndre Hopkins. I think that might
Speaker 6: be a hot take care. I think that might be
Speaker 6: a good thing for this offense and for Kyler Murray
Speaker 6: for his growth, and just for Hollywood and for Rondel
Speaker 6: Moore and for Greg Dortch. I think it might be
Speaker 6: good for them in that I think at times Kyler
Speaker 6: relied a little bit too much on his safety blanket
Speaker 6: DeAndre Hopkins, especially when when things got off schedule, and
Speaker 6: so you know, I think he's going to spread the
Speaker 6: ball around a little bit more, get it to the
Speaker 6: tight ends, get it to the backside of the backfield,
Speaker 6: and if Rondell Moore can stay healthy, you know him
Speaker 6: and him in the slot position, or Dorsch. You know Dortsche.
Speaker 6: Dorts showed a lot last year, so I think, you know,
Speaker 6: I think he's really got something to build off of.
Speaker 6: And and Hollywood Brown. You know, speed kills it still
Speaker 6: does in this league. And you mentioned it if if
Speaker 6: you got the speed to get that separation, Kyler can
Speaker 6: find those those receivers.
Speaker 5: Jonathan Ganna talked about from a DB's perspective, because that's
Speaker 5: the position group he coached the most in the NFL.
Speaker 5: Just how Hollywood Brown can get you at different points
Speaker 5: in a rout He has those different explosive levels in
Speaker 5: his route running, so it's very curious as to how
Speaker 5: he might be utilized, especially minus of DeAndre Hopkins. In fact,
Speaker 5: he was asked about his expected role Marquise Hollywood Brown
Speaker 5: with Wolf and Luke.
Speaker 8: I'm really excited about off as fil We're gonna have
Speaker 8: a ballancet attack. I'm gonna be used in a different ways.
Speaker 8: You know, You're gonna put me in the best ways
Speaker 8: for me to see see and it might look different
Speaker 8: each and every game. That's one thing that I like
Speaker 8: My role could be different going from game to game,
Speaker 8: and I'm excited about that.
Speaker 2: I tell you.
Speaker 5: You know, you think about the way he was used
Speaker 5: in Baltimore, right when he was third option at Best Right,
Speaker 5: it was run first, Mark Andrews second, Hollywood Brown third.
Speaker 5: Last year with DeAndre Hopkins. To your point, when he
Speaker 5: wasn't the security blanket, I thought Kyler was guilty sometimes
Speaker 5: of forcing balls to d hop Maybe he didn't want
Speaker 5: to hear about it on the sideline, but there was
Speaker 5: an unmistakable chemistry between Kyler and Hollywood Brown from the
Speaker 5: get go last year, was there not.
Speaker 6: Well, they've had that chemistry for years, right, dating back
Speaker 6: to their times at Oklahoma. So yeah, there's definitely chemistry
Speaker 6: there between Kyler and Hollywood. So and that's something that
Speaker 6: you know, you want to build on as an offense. Obviously,
Speaker 6: Hollywood is going to be the number one option in
Speaker 6: this offense. But you know, with the new regime coming
Speaker 6: in and with with Gannon instilling this this new culture
Speaker 6: of just you know, giving your all on every play
Speaker 6: regardless of if the ball is coming to you, I
Speaker 6: think that that's gonna that's gonna matter more than anything
Speaker 6: because it's going to force defenses to play you honestly,
Speaker 6: you know, in the past, if a receiver wasn't getting
Speaker 6: the ball, he'd barely jog and it was so frustrating
Speaker 6: to watch, you knows as a former player. Frustrating I
Speaker 6: bet for fans to watch these guys just kind of
Speaker 6: jogging through their routes knowing that they're not getting the ball. Well,
Speaker 6: you know, make make the defensive back and make the
Speaker 6: safety respect you, and make them not cheat and make them,
Speaker 6: you know, accountable as well. So you know, that's what
Speaker 6: I'm excited to see from this wide receiver group.
Speaker 5: And oh, by the way, Hollywood Brown in a contract here. Yeah,
Speaker 5: so I think you're going to see all out effort.
Speaker 5: Not that you wouldn't, I mean, he's a ball or
Speaker 5: to begin with, talks of his background going to junior college, route, etc.
Speaker 5: But it's interesting to note that every receiver at inter
Speaker 5: free agency or the draft was six foot or taller,
Speaker 5: including a Zach Paskell who's six to two and very physical.
Speaker 5: And then there's the draft pick, six foot two Michael Wilson,
Speaker 5: the third rounder out of Stanford, and he was asked
Speaker 5: this week how he's progressed in his rookie off season.
Speaker 13: I feel really confident. I think if I had a
Speaker 13: grade myself, I think I've done pretty well. I think
Speaker 13: I've made the plays that have come my way. I've
Speaker 13: showed up consistent in my personality, consistent in my work,
Speaker 13: and I've just attacked every day, just not really trying
Speaker 13: to do too much to impress anyone, but just show
Speaker 13: up and be consistent and be myself. And I think
Speaker 13: if you do that for long enough, you'll start to
Speaker 13: earn respect from guys.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 5: If there's one rookie who can hit in camp and
Speaker 5: really be relied upon, I think all Cardinals fans hope
Speaker 5: it is Michael Wilson, who had some really bad luck
Speaker 5: with injuries in his last three years at Stanford. He
Speaker 5: had a broken collar bone, he had a foot, he
Speaker 5: had a hand, but really stood out of the Senior Bowl.
Speaker 5: He already has his degree from Stanford. He's highly intelligent,
Speaker 5: and they've been putting him at various positions, but mainly
Speaker 5: the acts. I think you have to figure that out right.
Speaker 5: The outside receiver in this scheme, whether it's a Michael Wilson,
Speaker 5: whether it's hyllywood Brown, whether it's Zach Pascal, whether it's
Speaker 5: all the above. That's really where you have to replace
Speaker 5: the DeAndre Hopkins.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it is. And Michael Wilson with his size being
Speaker 6: six to two and two hundred and fifteen pounds, you know,
Speaker 6: you want you need guys with with some size and
Speaker 6: some beef that can go up and get those fifty
Speaker 6: to fifty balls because not every not every route is
Speaker 6: going to have separation. You know, these these cornerbacks get
Speaker 6: paid too, and they're professionals, and there's gonna be some tight,
Speaker 6: tight windows. And to have somebody with that that kind
Speaker 6: of size and that kind of presence out there and
Speaker 6: and to be able to catch the ball with their hands,
Speaker 6: you know, I think that's huge. And Michael Wilson again
Speaker 6: it's it's just like every other player on this team.
Speaker 6: It's a proven year.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 6: You know he talked about not trying to impress anyone,
Speaker 6: just trying to do his job. Well, that's great, and
Speaker 6: you've done everything that's been asked of you in the
Speaker 6: in the prese in the in the off season, and
Speaker 6: in the mini camps. But coming up here it's going
Speaker 6: to be proven time.
Speaker 5: And you know what you to me my opinion, agree
Speaker 5: or disagree, you can tell quite a bit about a
Speaker 5: receiver or a defensive back in the off season. Lineman, Nah,
Speaker 5: they're not in pads, it's not full contact, but you
Speaker 5: can tell does he fight the football, what's his route
Speaker 5: running like? Is he getting separation? Conversely, corners are they
Speaker 5: sticking with the receivers. So when you look at a
Speaker 5: Michael Wilson or a sixth rounder like Key troll Clark,
Speaker 5: the corner and those two have been battling a lot
Speaker 5: in these off season and they talked about that, they've
Speaker 5: really you know, iron sharpening and iron kind of thing.
Speaker 5: But I think in those two position groups you can
Speaker 5: see whether you have potential when you get to the
Speaker 5: regular season.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's it's the one time where it's
Speaker 6: a little easier for the defensive guy is these off
Speaker 6: season mini camps and OTA because they watch and they
Speaker 6: go against these wide receivers all the time, all day,
Speaker 6: and they see them on film and they know their
Speaker 6: tendencies and they know the route combinations that the offense
Speaker 6: are throwing, so they can kind of jump things a
Speaker 6: little bit and cheat a little bit. But that's the
Speaker 6: only time where the defense is going to have the advantage.
Speaker 6: But you're right, It's a great time for wide receivers
Speaker 6: and for defensive backs to really hone their craft.
Speaker 5: Is there one area that you're thinking, Okay, Jonathan Gannon
Speaker 5: wants an answer here early in camp. Whether it's that
Speaker 5: defensive line room that's wide open, whether it's corner. What's
Speaker 5: the pecking order? Do I have three legit corners, whether
Speaker 5: it's the rookies and the receiver. I mean, what do
Speaker 5: you think early in camp a new head coach is
Speaker 5: looking for, especially in this circumstance, because we know sometimes
Speaker 5: the decision makers will watch the first couple of days
Speaker 5: of padded practice and then realize they have a need
Speaker 5: in certain spots.
Speaker 6: You know, I think Jonathan Gannon really wants to instill
Speaker 6: that Philadelphia Eagles mentality and that blueprint of offensive line
Speaker 6: and defensive line. Those are really the two position groups
Speaker 6: that in my mind, have resulted in the Philadelphia Eagles
Speaker 6: having so much success recently. And if he can bring
Speaker 6: that blueprint and bring that here to Arizona and have
Speaker 6: any measurable, somewhat near amount of success is what they
Speaker 6: had in Philadelphia, I consider that a win.
Speaker 5: I'm quoting zach Ertz. I think you can see what
Speaker 5: they are prioritizing as an organization now being the O
Speaker 5: line in D line. And he said that's the hallmark
Speaker 5: of a team. If you want to have consistency, you
Speaker 5: can have all the skill guys you want. You lose
Speaker 5: a couple offensive linemen. It's really tough to win in
Speaker 5: this league. And quote Zach Ertz, who by the way,
Speaker 5: was with Jonathan Gannon for half a season in Philadelphia. Hey,
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