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Speaker 5: Ford and Gilbert. In fact, I hope our guest host

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Speaker 5: Ron wolf Lee on assignment. We welcome Rob Fredrickson back

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Speaker 5: to the airwaves and the Big Red Rage, the former

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Speaker 5: Cardinals linebacker Rob. How are we doing this evening.

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Speaker 6: Paulie, I'm fired up? I can tell you're fired up

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Speaker 6: your energy. I mean, may you look good? To paul

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Speaker 6: you've been working out or what?

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Speaker 5: Thanks? I've been winning the off season. Nobody's really noticed,

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Speaker 5: Well, anytime you use the word tall and yours, truly,

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Speaker 5: because the off season is over. Next stop, Cardinals camp

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Speaker 5: facility today the Arizona Cardinals Dignity Health Arizona Cardinals Training Center. Right,

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Speaker 5: you tell me a decade in the NFL, what's that

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Speaker 5: feeling like? Off season's over. Mandatory Mini camp is a rap.

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Speaker 5: the off season, it would be something like this culture check,

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Speaker 5: I mean, think how many players this offseason have told

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Speaker 9: Very straight drop back looking to throw, dumps it off

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Speaker 5: and Gilbert We are santan Ford, Keante is no longer

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Speaker 2: Just my knowledge of the game and how I approach it,

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Speaker 5: You know, I remember you saying between I don't know,

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, most definitely. I study probably any running back

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Speaker 2: Man, One thing I learned being discipline and consistent. You know,

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, man, So the off season going great. I'm

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Speaker 2: That's how I like to look at it. You got

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Speaker 5: So what's it like for running back when you're getting

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Speaker 2: Man, locked and loaded? You know it was back some

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Speaker 5: So, so for those who don't know, Kanta Ngrim is

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Speaker 2: Uh. I never was a big ego guy. I was

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Speaker 5: How backbreaking is that for a defense? Oh?

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Speaker 5: So how much respect does he get just running the

435
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Speaker 5: ball from the running backs Kyler Murray?

436
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Speaker 2: Oh he got a lot of respect. BA at the

437
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Speaker 2: end of the day, you know, We're here for a reason. No,

438
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Speaker 2: that's good. That's good.

439
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Speaker 5: And look, I mean, how do you see yourself fitting

440
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Speaker 5: into this? We know the days of a single premiere,

441
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Speaker 5: three hundred and four hundred carry running back in the

442
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Speaker 5: NFL or dead with the exception of maybe Derrick Henry. Okay,

443
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Speaker 5: I mean, you got to have more than just James Conner.

444
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Speaker 5: It's a seventeen game season. So as you envision and

445
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Speaker 5: have goals for this season, what do you hope to

446
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Speaker 5: achieve this.

447
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Speaker 2: Year to be the best version of me for the

448
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Speaker 2: sake of the team. You know, I'm a young guy,

449
00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:04,000
Speaker 2: haven't done nothing yet. I'm still earning my strikes for

450
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Speaker 2: my teammates, guys who won Pro bos and stuff like that.

451
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Speaker 2: So be that it factor when I step in line

452
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Speaker 2: and then when my numbers call h That's the biggest

453
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Speaker 2: thing for me, you know.

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Speaker 8: You know.

455
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Speaker 5: Xavi and Collins said the other day that players feel

456
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Speaker 5: the pressure with a new GM, a new head coach.

457
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Speaker 5: He said, it's a good thing. It's definitely ramped things up.

458
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Speaker 5: But tell us what is the vibe like? What is

459
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Speaker 5: the culture like? Since Jonathan Gannett.

460
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Speaker 2: Took over oh Man, different different approach, a lot more

461
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Speaker 2: guys discipline, you know, being consistent of what they want

462
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Speaker 2: and how they approach their business going coming through the door.

463
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Speaker 2: I feel like that's the main thing you could tell

464
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Speaker 2: workout programs, practice, how JG take care of us. But

465
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Speaker 2: when it's time to go, it's time to go, you know.

466
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Speaker 2: And that's one thing he preached about the game, you know.

467
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Speaker 2: So you feel in the locker room, you're hearing the

468
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Speaker 2: guys voices. You hear guys excited here, guys motivated, you know,

469
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Speaker 2: regardless of what outside. That's what come with it, you know.

470
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Speaker 2: But man, we're excited where to go.

471
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Speaker 5: He talks about winning behavior versus non winning behavior, and

472
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Speaker 5: he doesn't hesitate the whole guy's accountable, does he?

473
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Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, not at all.

474
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Speaker 5: Because you hear it on the practice field. What's it

475
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Speaker 5: like behind the scenes, because guys have told stories where

476
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Speaker 5: he'll call someone on a meeting to make sure they're

477
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Speaker 5: paying attention.

478
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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, he caught me a few times. Yeah,

479
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Speaker 2: he caught me a few times.

480
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Speaker 6: Man.

481
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Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, man, JAG just

482
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Speaker 2: want the best for us in the sake of the team.

483
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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. He pulled me over one

484
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Speaker 2: time they're in Bob Hemling. He's like, man, I hope

485
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Speaker 2: the guys really understand men and hides and the low days.

486
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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I like, Coach, they understand

487
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Speaker 2: you know, you feel in the locker room, you see

488
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Speaker 2: it in the energy.

489
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Speaker 5: So were you ready when he called on you?

490
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Speaker 2: Oh? Heck yeah?

491
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Speaker 5: What do you want to know? Was it in the playbook?

492
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Speaker 5: Was it a scheme question? What did he come at

493
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Speaker 5: you with?

494
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Speaker 10: No?

495
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Speaker 2: No, he was just asking me. He was just telling

496
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Speaker 2: me about, you know, gaining the team trust as far

497
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Speaker 2: as like how we operated in and how the guys

498
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Speaker 2: feel about high days and low days. High days we

499
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Speaker 2: go full speed, load days when we make it easy,

500
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Speaker 2: you know, and hopefully the guys don't get frustrated with

501
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Speaker 2: the approach that we take it.

502
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Speaker 5: So, you know, the music's playing. It save you. You're

503
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Speaker 5: saved by the music, Conte, because I was going to

504
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Speaker 5: bag on you for USC destroying the Pac twelve and

505
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Speaker 5: leaving for the Big ten. I mean, come on, how

506
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 5: does that? How does that make sense? Kante? USC in

507
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Speaker 5: the Big ten? Come on, what's going on there?

508
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Speaker 2: It makes a lot of sense, man, It makes a

509
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Speaker 2: lot of sense. That do you take over the pay

510
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Speaker 2: You gotta do something.

511
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Speaker 5: Well, look, we're looking forward to you and James Connor

512
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Speaker 5: and that whole running back room. I know the narrative

513
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Speaker 5: in the NFL is the running back position has been devalued.

514
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Speaker 5: I have a feeling you guys are gonna prove everyone

515
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Speaker 5: different this year.

516
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I got it. I got that feeling.

517
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Speaker 5: Toote bust de luck this season. Appreciate it.

518
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Speaker 2: Yes, sir, thank you.

519
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Speaker 5: There you go. County Ingram Cardinals running back. You know what,

520
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Speaker 5: he's got some downtime until training camp starts the end

521
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Speaker 5: of July. We continue with the Big Red Raid presented

522
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Speaker 5: by santan Ford and Gilbert. We are santan Ford.

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Speaker 2: Let's go out of huddle, get your eyes to the offense.

524
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Speaker 5: Get know the huddle, Get your eyes in the offense.

525
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Speaker 11: How you showing getting all the mental adjustments checks. You

526
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Speaker 11: know what I think we gotta do a better job

527
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Speaker 11: of is getting us I'm you on at the offense,

528
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Speaker 11: you know, get him out of the huddle and get

529
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Speaker 11: your eyes to the offense. We shouldn't be like mulling around,

530
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Speaker 11: like looking around at each other, like get your eyes

531
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Speaker 11: of the offense. So we can start identifying. Be ahead

532
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Speaker 11: of the motion. Yeah, like we gotta break, get in

533
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Speaker 11: a huddle, getting Yeah, a little too late. We got

534
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Speaker 11: guys like kind of moving around us and that like

535
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Speaker 11: you set that tempo, get in.

536
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Speaker 5: Down the huddle, let's go. That's what I was talking about.

537
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Speaker 5: Off the top of the show. It's a little clip there,

538
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Speaker 5: Jonathan Gann wired up at OTAs he's talking to Kaiser Whitest,

539
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Speaker 5: quarterback of the defense, the middle linebacker. I tell you

540
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Speaker 5: Rob Frederickson sitting in for Ron Woefully Paul Kelbc over here.

541
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Speaker 5: And it's a simple age old question, but not everyone agrees,

542
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Speaker 5: so true or false, Rob Frederickson. A team takes on

543
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Speaker 5: the personality of its head.

544
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Speaker 6: Coach's that's the total truth. That's that's truth and true

545
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 6: in business, in life, you take on the personality of

546
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Speaker 6: your leader. And because that's that's a position, that person

547
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Speaker 6: is in the leadership role.

548
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Speaker 5: You did the college thing, right, Michigan State. Yeah, you

549
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 5: did the pro thing. You know, the Lions and the

550
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 5: Cardinals and the Raiders, former first round pick. Does it

551
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Speaker 5: have stain power that sort of energy with a bunch

552
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Speaker 5: of grown men with mortgages and kids to support? You

553
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Speaker 5: know that whole energy thing. How do you think that

554
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Speaker 5: works over the course of an entire season. And I

555
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Speaker 5: bring that up in the context that it is genuine,

556
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Speaker 5: I mean from all aspects and perspectives. I mean that

557
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Speaker 5: is just genuine natural energy that you get twenty four

558
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Speaker 5: to seven with Jonathan Gannon.

559
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Speaker 6: It works easier in college because you have a bit

560
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Speaker 6: more control over the players. Where it wears thin in

561
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Speaker 6: the professional game is when you keep stacking losses after

562
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Speaker 6: losses after losses, and you know, you keep hearing that

563
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Speaker 6: same message. That's where it can wear thin on these guys.

564
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Speaker 6: You're right, they got mortgages, they're professionals, they're adults. You

565
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Speaker 6: gotta find a way to motivate them. But yet you

566
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Speaker 6: can't be too raw rab because at the end of

567
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Speaker 6: the day, these guys are professionals.

568
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Speaker 5: Yeah, And it's not to say that he is ra

569
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Speaker 5: ra all the time. I shouldn't give that that sense

570
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Speaker 5: because look, we've heard stories. Zavian Collins with a great

571
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Speaker 5: story in the offseason about how he came into meeting

572
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Speaker 5: number one, team meeting number one, and he's eating his eggs,

573
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Speaker 5: He's got his breakfast, his little bowl from the cafeteria

574
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Speaker 5: and the next day he shows up and his numbers

575
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Speaker 5: up on the PowerPoint he got. He was put on

576
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Speaker 5: blast by Jonathan Gannon. That'll shout not multitask in one

577
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Speaker 5: of my team meetings, because if you're eating breakfast, then

578
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Speaker 5: you're not one hundred percent undivided attention on the task

579
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Speaker 5: at hand, which is this scheme that we're learning about.

580
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Speaker 5: So I think a lot of that has been instilled.

581
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Speaker 5: Guys have learned quickly. They've made a few decisions on

582
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Speaker 5: a couple of players, former first round picks Zavian Collins

583
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Speaker 5: will get to in a minute. Isaiah Simmons is now

584
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Speaker 5: running exclusively with the defensive backs, and by that we

585
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Speaker 5: mean that appears to be the one position he is

586
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Speaker 5: to me tesked with until he proves he can really

587
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Speaker 5: execute that position. In fact, Isaiah was talking to the

588
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Speaker 5: media about just that.

589
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Speaker 10: I've been with the defensive backs so far, so you know,

590
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Speaker 10: we're kind of taking it from there as of now,

591
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Speaker 10: so moving forward, I'll be with the defensive backs. Feel

592
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Speaker 10: like I got a real good grasp on the playbook.

593
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Speaker 10: Everybody in the building's real cool. Everybody knew who we've

594
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Speaker 10: added players staff as so I'm doing good.

595
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Speaker 5: What's your take. You've watched Isaiah Simmons entire Cardinals career,

596
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Speaker 5: what do you think about where he's at and where

597
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Speaker 5: do you think he's going as a player.

598
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Speaker 6: A phenomenal athlete coming out of Clemson. He played virtually

599
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Speaker 6: every position on defense in college, and all that was

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Speaker 6: on tape. So you know, I can see where a

601
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Speaker 6: talent evaluator would be mesmerized with with just the raw

602
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Speaker 6: talent that this player has, and you know, drafting him

603
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Speaker 6: and bringing him in here and then moving him around

604
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Speaker 6: to different positions line, inside, linebacker, rushing on the outside,

605
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Speaker 6: slot corner, some safety, deep, middle safety. It can be

606
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Speaker 6: a little overwhelming, especially for a young player because there's

607
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Speaker 6: so much more in this game versus the college game

608
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Speaker 6: in terms of responsibilities defensively, and when motions and shifts

609
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Speaker 6: and and things the offense does pre snap, those those

610
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Speaker 6: change those responsibilities and you have to then change what

611
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Speaker 6: you're doing, and that can all happen in a in

612
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Speaker 6: a snap of a finger. So that was that was

613
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Speaker 6: a lot put on Isaiah early on. So I give

614
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Speaker 6: him the benefit of the doubt from from that respect.

615
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Speaker 6: As a player, again, you know, he's he's extremely talented.

616
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Speaker 6: He's he's a linear player in my estimation, and what

617
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Speaker 6: I mean by that is he's a straight line guy.

618
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Speaker 6: You know, he's he's got the straight line speed and

619
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Speaker 6: he's got the straight line explosion. Where he struggles, though,

620
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Speaker 6: is that change of direction. And maybe maybe he's got

621
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Speaker 6: some tight hips where he you know, he can't get

622
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Speaker 6: in and out of cuts and and and that that

623
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Speaker 6: shows up in coverage situations.

624
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Speaker 5: Yeah, the line that he was drafted to cover the

625
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 5: tight end hasn't always excelled in that role, especially against

626
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Speaker 5: the Travis Kelcey's and George Kittles of the world.

627
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's not just tight ends either, It's it's running

628
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Speaker 6: backs coming out of the backfield. I remember early on,

629
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Speaker 6: I think maybe it was his first game against San Francisco.

630
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Speaker 6: He was exposed early on, and and you know, the

631
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Speaker 6: coaching staff may have done him a disservice back then,

632
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Speaker 6: you know, and in terms of coaching him up and

633
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Speaker 6: getting him prepared for those situations because it is different

634
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Speaker 6: than college. You know, the running back is going to

635
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Speaker 6: run routes differently. Tight ends are going to run routes

636
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Speaker 6: differently better.

637
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Speaker 5: And maybe his college resume was a disservice to him

638
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 5: in some ways. He played so many positions at Clemson.

639
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Speaker 5: I think it caught the intrigue of the the Cardinals

640
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 5: coaches the previous staff and said, Wow, okay, we can

641
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Speaker 5: make him an X factor. The quarterback's gonna break the huddle.

642
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Speaker 5: Where's Isaiah Simmons. He could be anywhere on any given

643
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Speaker 5: play and we're gonna dial him up accordingly. And never

644
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Speaker 5: quite mastered one position. So you've seen Nick Raulis and

645
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 5: Jonathan Gannon tell them you're with the safeties. You're gonna

646
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Speaker 5: be right behind Buddha Baker and Jalen Thompson. We'll see now,

647
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Speaker 5: we'll see if he's in the slot quite a bit

648
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Speaker 5: in certain packages because if you look at the percentage

649
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Speaker 5: of snaps played, slot corner was the most he played

650
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Speaker 5: of any position last year. So he could be, especially

651
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Speaker 5: if you're Thinn at corner in this particular roster. We'll

652
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Speaker 5: see about that. But that's obviously a very intriguing storyline

653
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Speaker 5: throughout Cardinals camp. How does he adapt? You know, can

654
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Speaker 5: he be that guy? And then you have Zaman Collins

655
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Speaker 5: who was taken Round one a year later, who is

656
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Speaker 5: your mic linebacker? A year ago. He's now on the

657
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Speaker 5: outside at least he's been there the entirety of the offseason,

658
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Speaker 5: and fellow outside linebacker Dennis Gardak had this to say

659
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Speaker 5: this week.

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Speaker 12: He's gotta be one of the smartest outside backers there's

661
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Speaker 12: ever been, just coming from inside. He knows how everything's

662
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Speaker 12: tied together so well. So he's incredibly smart. And then

663
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Speaker 12: he's actually huge. Yeah, if you guys haven't noticed, I

664
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Speaker 12: saw a picture of me next to him, and I

665
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Speaker 12: look like his kid brother.

666
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Speaker 5: So and he's not kidding. I mean, he's every bit

667
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Speaker 5: of six four, might be closer to six ' five.

668
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Speaker 5: He's two sixty plus. He can move. You talk about

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Speaker 5: covering the running backs and tight ends. I thought that

670
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Speaker 5: was an underrated part of his game last year. He

671
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Speaker 5: was really good in coverage downfield at times. What do

672
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Speaker 5: you think you played outside linebacker for, you know, all

673
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Speaker 5: those years in the NFL. How does Xavion Collins make

674
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Speaker 5: the transition? In your opinion, Yeah.

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Speaker 6: It's a It's a totally different move for xavan Collins

676
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Speaker 6: going from middle linebacker to outside linebacker in this scheme

677
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Speaker 6: where where he's basically coming off the edge. He's an

678
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Speaker 6: edge rusher, I played outside linebacker. I was I was

679
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Speaker 6: a coverage linebacker, so totally different. But Zavin, you know,

680
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Speaker 6: just looking at him from a physical standpoint, he's got

681
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Speaker 6: all the tools he has. He's he's got got the

682
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Speaker 6: burst off the line of scrimmage, he's got the size,

683
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Speaker 6: he's got the strength, and and you heard Gardak talking

684
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Speaker 6: about his intelligence, so he's got all of the things there.

685
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Speaker 6: But again just just you know, just like Isaiah Simmons,

686
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Speaker 6: it's not the easiest thing in the world to just

687
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Speaker 6: snap your fingers and say, okay, you're you're our outside

688
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Speaker 6: pass rusher. Now, there there's a there's guys that spend

689
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Speaker 6: their entire careers and and through college and through high

690
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Speaker 6: school learning the craft of pass rushing. It's not just

691
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Speaker 6: like you can just put a guy out there and

692
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Speaker 6: say go get me twelve sacks this year, and you

693
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Speaker 6: know that that's that's a tall order, and so you

694
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Speaker 6: know that's that's going to be interesting to see his development.

695
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Speaker 6: I think for both of those guys, David Zavid Collins

696
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Speaker 6: and and Isaiah Simmons, it's a big time prove it.

697
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Speaker 5: Year for everything that Nick Rowlis and Drew Patsen and

698
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Speaker 5: Jeff Rodgers, the coordinators bring to this Cardinals coaching staff.

699
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Speaker 5: To me the potential m VP of this staff, Rob

700
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Speaker 5: rod Rigas the outside linebacker's coach, who was with ASU,

701
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Speaker 5: A Zavan Collins, A Dennis Gardek, BJ Ojalari. You got

702
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Speaker 5: a Cam Thomas, my J Sanders in year two? Guys

703
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Speaker 5: who got to take that leap? I mean he's got

704
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Speaker 5: a tall task, you know eighteen year thirty six sacks

705
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Speaker 5: walked out the door last year and Zach Allen and

706
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Speaker 5: JJ Watt and now you have a XAVI and Collins

707
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Speaker 5: who who looks as the skill set? And what's interesting, Rob?

708
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Speaker 5: You tell me? Gardik went on and said that it's

709
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Speaker 5: going to be so much easier to play outside backer

710
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Speaker 5: versus Mike because now, look, it's real simple either the

711
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Speaker 5: plays coming at you or it's going away from you.

712
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Speaker 5: That it's going to be so much easier to diagnose

713
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Speaker 5: and react as opposed to playing Mike linebacker. Not to

714
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Speaker 5: mention he's no loarker calling the defense and responsible for

715
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Speaker 5: getting everybody aligned.

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Speaker 6: Well, I agree, the responsibilities are are more simplified, more

717
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Speaker 6: distilled at outside linebacker when your primary purpose is to

718
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Speaker 6: get pressure on the quarterback. Versus middle linebacker where you

719
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Speaker 6: have to diagnose everything and see everything and communicate pre

720
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Speaker 6: snap and post snap with all the other players. So

721
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Speaker 6: you know, there's a lot more on your plate as

722
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Speaker 6: a middle linebacker versus an outside linebacker from the mental standpoint,

723
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Speaker 6: but physically again, it's a new learning curve for him

724
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Speaker 6: and he's going to have to see how, you know,

725
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Speaker 6: how how quickly he can pick that up.

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Speaker 5: By the way, Josh Woods, veteran inside linebackers, said this

727
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Speaker 5: week to Wolf and Luke that he thinks saving quote

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Speaker 5: is going to be an amazing player in this league.

729
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Speaker 5: He doesn't even know all he can do at outside linebacker.

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Speaker 5: I thought that was an intriguing comment. Hey, team up

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Speaker 5: with the Cardinals Estate Farm by donating a backpack filled

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Speaker 5: with school supplies for students in need in the Tempe

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Speaker 5: Number two School will talk offense and wide Receiver next

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Speaker 5: with Rob Frederickson and the Big Red Rage presented by

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Speaker 5: Santan Ford in Gilbert.

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Speaker 9: Murray and Shotgun takes the snap, drops back to pass,

740
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Speaker 9: looks right, throws right. More fought at thirty, turns right

741
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Speaker 9: twenty five to.

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Speaker 4: Twenty four, breaks a tackle to the ten to the

743
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Speaker 4: five touchdown. There's the explosive play from Rondale More.

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Speaker 5: We have been waiting for shotgun formation. Snap to Murray,

745
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Speaker 5: quick throw a left side.

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Speaker 9: It's pot at the one and into the.

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Speaker 2: End zone for the touchdown.

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Speaker 9: Is Craig dors Murray in an empty set in Shotgun

749
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Speaker 9: takes the snap, restep drop, looks over the middle, throws

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Speaker 9: and it's bought by Brown.

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Speaker 5: First down, makes a man mess at the fifteen, cuts

752
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Speaker 5: right to the ten.

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Speaker 4: Hip Ron is into the end to before the touchdown.

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Speaker 4: Hollywood Brown best Ben spectacular.

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Speaker 1: What an incredible play by Hollywood Brown.

756
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Speaker 5: He was spectacular first six games of the season, no argument.

757
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Speaker 5: He was top five, top seven and catches and receiving yards.

758
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Speaker 5: I mean it was for a Cardinals offense that really

759
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Speaker 5: never hit full strike all year, but Hollywood Brown was producing.

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Speaker 5: And Rob Frodgerson sitting in for Ron Wolfe her Dave

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Speaker 5: Pasch there on the call. Welcome back into the Big

762
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Speaker 5: Red Rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert, who needs

763
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Speaker 5: size as a receiver. When you get separation, right, that's

764
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Speaker 5: the mantra with those three guys. They have enough quickness

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Speaker 5: and burst and hopefully the route running that they effectively

766
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Speaker 5: separate from the defensive back. Now we say that, of course,

767
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Speaker 5: the Cardinals added some size at the position in the offseason.

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Speaker 5: We'll get a little bit into that, but rarely were

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Speaker 5: those three together a year ago, and now minus DeAndre Hopkins,

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Speaker 5: it would appear those guys are going to get their

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Speaker 5: share of reps. What do you think might be in

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Speaker 5: store in their future this season?

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Speaker 6: Well, you mentioned no DeAndre Hopkins. I think that might

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Speaker 6: be a hot take care. I think that might be

775
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Speaker 6: a good thing for this offense and for Kyler Murray

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Speaker 6: for his growth, and just for Hollywood and for Rondel

777
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Speaker 6: Moore and for Greg Dortch. I think it might be

778
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Speaker 6: good for them in that I think at times Kyler

779
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Speaker 6: relied a little bit too much on his safety blanket

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Speaker 6: DeAndre Hopkins, especially when when things got off schedule, and

781
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Speaker 6: so you know, I think he's going to spread the

782
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Speaker 6: ball around a little bit more, get it to the

783
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Speaker 6: tight ends, get it to the backside of the backfield,

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Speaker 6: and if Rondell Moore can stay healthy, you know him

785
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Speaker 6: and him in the slot position, or Dorsch. You know Dortsche.

786
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Speaker 6: Dorts showed a lot last year, so I think, you know,

787
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Speaker 6: I think he's really got something to build off of.

788
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Speaker 6: And and Hollywood Brown. You know, speed kills it still

789
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Speaker 6: does in this league. And you mentioned it if if

790
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Speaker 6: you got the speed to get that separation, Kyler can

791
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Speaker 6: find those those receivers.

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Speaker 5: Jonathan Ganna talked about from a DB's perspective, because that's

793
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Speaker 5: the position group he coached the most in the NFL.

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Speaker 5: Just how Hollywood Brown can get you at different points

795
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Speaker 5: in a rout He has those different explosive levels in

796
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Speaker 5: his route running, so it's very curious as to how

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Speaker 5: he might be utilized, especially minus of DeAndre Hopkins. In fact,

798
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Speaker 5: he was asked about his expected role Marquise Hollywood Brown

799
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Speaker 5: with Wolf and Luke.

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Speaker 8: I'm really excited about off as fil We're gonna have

801
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Speaker 8: a ballancet attack. I'm gonna be used in a different ways.

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Speaker 8: You know, You're gonna put me in the best ways

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Speaker 8: for me to see see and it might look different

804
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Speaker 8: each and every game. That's one thing that I like

805
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Speaker 8: My role could be different going from game to game,

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Speaker 8: and I'm excited about that.

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Speaker 2: I tell you.

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Speaker 5: You know, you think about the way he was used

809
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Speaker 5: in Baltimore, right when he was third option at Best Right,

810
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Speaker 5: it was run first, Mark Andrews second, Hollywood Brown third.

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Speaker 5: Last year with DeAndre Hopkins. To your point, when he

812
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Speaker 5: wasn't the security blanket, I thought Kyler was guilty sometimes

813
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Speaker 5: of forcing balls to d hop Maybe he didn't want

814
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Speaker 5: to hear about it on the sideline, but there was

815
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Speaker 5: an unmistakable chemistry between Kyler and Hollywood Brown from the

816
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Speaker 5: get go last year, was there not.

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Speaker 6: Well, they've had that chemistry for years, right, dating back

818
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Speaker 6: to their times at Oklahoma. So yeah, there's definitely chemistry

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Speaker 6: there between Kyler and Hollywood. So and that's something that

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Speaker 6: you know, you want to build on as an offense. Obviously,

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Speaker 6: Hollywood is going to be the number one option in

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Speaker 6: this offense. But you know, with the new regime coming

823
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Speaker 6: in and with with Gannon instilling this this new culture

824
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Speaker 6: of just you know, giving your all on every play

825
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Speaker 6: regardless of if the ball is coming to you, I

826
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Speaker 6: think that that's gonna that's gonna matter more than anything

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Speaker 6: because it's going to force defenses to play you honestly,

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Speaker 6: you know, in the past, if a receiver wasn't getting

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Speaker 6: the ball, he'd barely jog and it was so frustrating

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Speaker 6: to watch, you knows as a former player. Frustrating I

831
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Speaker 6: bet for fans to watch these guys just kind of

832
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Speaker 6: jogging through their routes knowing that they're not getting the ball. Well,

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Speaker 6: you know, make make the defensive back and make the

834
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Speaker 6: safety respect you, and make them not cheat and make them,

835
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Speaker 6: you know, accountable as well. So you know, that's what

836
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Speaker 6: I'm excited to see from this wide receiver group.

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Speaker 5: And oh, by the way, Hollywood Brown in a contract here. Yeah,

838
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Speaker 5: so I think you're going to see all out effort.

839
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Speaker 5: Not that you wouldn't, I mean, he's a ball or

840
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Speaker 5: to begin with, talks of his background going to junior college, route, etc.

841
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Speaker 5: But it's interesting to note that every receiver at inter

842
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Speaker 5: free agency or the draft was six foot or taller,

843
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Speaker 5: including a Zach Paskell who's six to two and very physical.

844
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Speaker 5: And then there's the draft pick, six foot two Michael Wilson,

845
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Speaker 5: the third rounder out of Stanford, and he was asked

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Speaker 5: this week how he's progressed in his rookie off season.

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Speaker 13: I feel really confident. I think if I had a

848
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Speaker 13: grade myself, I think I've done pretty well. I think

849
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Speaker 13: I've made the plays that have come my way. I've

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Speaker 13: showed up consistent in my personality, consistent in my work,

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Speaker 13: and I've just attacked every day, just not really trying

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Speaker 13: to do too much to impress anyone, but just show

853
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Speaker 13: up and be consistent and be myself. And I think

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Speaker 13: if you do that for long enough, you'll start to

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Speaker 13: earn respect from guys.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 5: If there's one rookie who can hit in camp and

858
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Speaker 5: really be relied upon, I think all Cardinals fans hope

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Speaker 5: it is Michael Wilson, who had some really bad luck

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Speaker 5: with injuries in his last three years at Stanford. He

861
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Speaker 5: had a broken collar bone, he had a foot, he

862
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Speaker 5: had a hand, but really stood out of the Senior Bowl.

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Speaker 5: He already has his degree from Stanford. He's highly intelligent,

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Speaker 5: and they've been putting him at various positions, but mainly

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Speaker 5: the acts. I think you have to figure that out right.

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Speaker 5: The outside receiver in this scheme, whether it's a Michael Wilson,

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Speaker 5: whether it's hyllywood Brown, whether it's Zach Pascal, whether it's

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Speaker 5: all the above. That's really where you have to replace

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Speaker 5: the DeAndre Hopkins.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it is. And Michael Wilson with his size being

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Speaker 6: six to two and two hundred and fifteen pounds, you know,

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Speaker 6: you want you need guys with with some size and

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Speaker 6: some beef that can go up and get those fifty

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Speaker 6: to fifty balls because not every not every route is

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Speaker 6: going to have separation. You know, these these cornerbacks get

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Speaker 6: paid too, and they're professionals, and there's gonna be some tight,

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Speaker 6: tight windows. And to have somebody with that that kind

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Speaker 6: of size and that kind of presence out there and

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Speaker 6: and to be able to catch the ball with their hands,

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Speaker 6: you know, I think that's huge. And Michael Wilson again

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Speaker 6: it's it's just like every other player on this team.

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Speaker 6: It's a proven year.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 6: You know he talked about not trying to impress anyone,

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Speaker 6: just trying to do his job. Well, that's great, and

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Speaker 6: you've done everything that's been asked of you in the

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Speaker 6: in the prese in the in the off season, and

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Speaker 6: in the mini camps. But coming up here it's going

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Speaker 6: to be proven time.

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Speaker 5: And you know what you to me my opinion, agree

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Speaker 5: or disagree, you can tell quite a bit about a

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Speaker 5: receiver or a defensive back in the off season. Lineman, Nah,

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Speaker 5: they're not in pads, it's not full contact, but you

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Speaker 5: can tell does he fight the football, what's his route

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Speaker 5: running like? Is he getting separation? Conversely, corners are they

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Speaker 5: sticking with the receivers. So when you look at a

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Speaker 5: Michael Wilson or a sixth rounder like Key troll Clark,

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Speaker 5: the corner and those two have been battling a lot

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Speaker 5: in these off season and they talked about that, they've

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Speaker 5: really you know, iron sharpening and iron kind of thing.

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Speaker 5: But I think in those two position groups you can

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Speaker 5: see whether you have potential when you get to the

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Speaker 5: regular season.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's it's the one time where it's

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Speaker 6: a little easier for the defensive guy is these off

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Speaker 6: season mini camps and OTA because they watch and they

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Speaker 6: go against these wide receivers all the time, all day,

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Speaker 6: and they see them on film and they know their

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Speaker 6: tendencies and they know the route combinations that the offense

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Speaker 6: are throwing, so they can kind of jump things a

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Speaker 6: little bit and cheat a little bit. But that's the

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Speaker 6: only time where the defense is going to have the advantage.

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Speaker 6: But you're right, It's a great time for wide receivers

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Speaker 6: and for defensive backs to really hone their craft.

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Speaker 5: Is there one area that you're thinking, Okay, Jonathan Gannon

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Speaker 5: wants an answer here early in camp. Whether it's that

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Speaker 5: defensive line room that's wide open, whether it's corner. What's

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Speaker 5: the pecking order? Do I have three legit corners, whether

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Speaker 5: it's the rookies and the receiver. I mean, what do

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Speaker 5: you think early in camp a new head coach is

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Speaker 5: looking for, especially in this circumstance, because we know sometimes

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Speaker 5: the decision makers will watch the first couple of days

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Speaker 5: of padded practice and then realize they have a need

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Speaker 5: in certain spots.

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Speaker 6: You know, I think Jonathan Gannon really wants to instill

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Speaker 6: that Philadelphia Eagles mentality and that blueprint of offensive line

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Speaker 6: and defensive line. Those are really the two position groups

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Speaker 6: that in my mind, have resulted in the Philadelphia Eagles

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Speaker 6: having so much success recently. And if he can bring

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Speaker 6: that blueprint and bring that here to Arizona and have

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Speaker 6: any measurable, somewhat near amount of success is what they

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Speaker 6: had in Philadelphia, I consider that a win.

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Speaker 5: I'm quoting zach Ertz. I think you can see what

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Speaker 5: they are prioritizing as an organization now being the O

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Speaker 5: line in D line. And he said that's the hallmark

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Speaker 5: of a team. If you want to have consistency, you

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Speaker 5: can have all the skill guys you want. You lose

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Speaker 5: a couple offensive linemen. It's really tough to win in

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Speaker 5: this league. And quote Zach Ertz, who by the way,

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Speaker 5: was with Jonathan Gannon for half a season in Philadelphia. Hey,

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