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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, our resident GM is back for Front Office Unfiltered.

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Speaker 2: It is Jim Bowden, and I love having you on

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Speaker 2: on a daylight today because JB, I look forward to

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Speaker 2: these articles as much as anything. Trade season can never

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Speaker 2: come early enough, even if GM's and President of Baseball

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Speaker 2: Ops guys don't know it yet. So let's get this started, Okay,

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Speaker 2: on the Athletic this morning, it comes out. Five MLB trades, Yes,

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Speaker 2: a little music from AJ for me too. Five MLB

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Speaker 2: trades i'd like to see in May, including deals for

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Speaker 2: Ryan Helsley and Joe Ryan. So I would like to

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Speaker 2: start with Ryan Helsley. Where would you like to see

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd like to see him go to the Philadelphia Phillies, Scottie. Look.

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Speaker 1: Dave Dombrowski came on my series XM radio show a

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Speaker 1: Romano experiment hasn't worked great, and look, Helseley's an impact closer.

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Speaker 1: He's one of the best in baseball. Philadelphia has a

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Speaker 3: What as a GM, I'm putting you in Dave Dombrowski's

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Speaker 3: how do you, like, how do you facilitate that yourself?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Eric, what you do before you start

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: But that's basically how it works, Jim.

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Speaker 6: This is one of those it's like, well, either team

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well I think the Oils are planning for next

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Speaker 1: I think they've kept their prospects too long. I don't

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Speaker 1: They've got some work to do. So in this trade,

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Speaker 5: Jim. There's a lot of heat on Brandon Hyde. We

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Speaker 6: You know, Brandon Heide's been through the low times now

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Speaker 3: If you had pitchers that were looking into the dugout

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Speaker 3: But that's not that's not to be discussed here or there.

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Speaker 3: We're talking about GM stuff. To me, your most slam

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Speaker 3: because the Tigers made a huge run it Outspregman. But

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Speaker 1: And there's a lot of places that he fits really well.

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Speaker 3: You don't know what you're gonna get with Luis Robert, Like,

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Speaker 1: No, what I'm gonna do and I'll give you a

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Speaker 2: Hi JB. There's two more things I want to hit.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it goes back to my question for this, Jim,

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Speaker 6: They put this is a knock on Jorge Matteo, but

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Speaker 1: who the stars are and who the guys will have

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Speaker 1: been overhyped and trade them before they get exposed to

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Speaker 1: go get the pieces that you were just talking about

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Speaker 1: AJ like John Wester, Bill Lack, etc.

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Speaker 3: All right, last one, Well, if you're the GM, current

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Speaker 3: GM in a big league team and you find out

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Speaker 3: that Major League Baseball hid the fact that they shrunk

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Speaker 3: the zone a little bit, do you have any recourse?

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Speaker 3: Do you have anything other than all right, well whatever,

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Speaker 3: I guess, I guess it's just chalking up to nothing

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Speaker 3: we can do about it.

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Speaker 1: No, you pick up the phone call, you call Commissioner

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Speaker 1: Rob Manford, and you say what's going on, like, how

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Speaker 1: do we make this change? My manager knows nothing about it,

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Speaker 1: our players know nothing about it. And then the response

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Speaker 1: we get back is well, yes, we communicated it. Wait

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Speaker 1: wait a minute. This happens way too often. You might

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Speaker 1: be communicating with some memo and some email that nobody sees.

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Speaker 1: But if you're going to make a change at this level,

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Speaker 1: we need transparency. We need to over communicate everything we

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Speaker 1: do like this. Make sure Tony Clark in the players

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Speaker 1: Union knows it, and ask the players' Union to inform

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Speaker 1: the players. You inform the players that ask Tony Clark

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Speaker 1: if he'll inform the players. Then you have to make

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Speaker 1: sure the gms and the managers are well aware of it,

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Speaker 1: not based on some email or some passing comment. Look,

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Speaker 1: when you're running an organization worth billions and billions of dollars,

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Speaker 1: communication can't fall through the gap. It just can't happen.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Yeah, we were going nuts on Friday, and

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Speaker 2: then to say, oh, it happened, No, it didn't happen.

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Speaker 2: Because it's not even just players, it is team employees

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Speaker 2: as in managers, some of the guys that have been

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Speaker 2: around for a while, right, Dave Roberts, Mike Schilt Do

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Speaker 2: we think they're making that up? JB? Do we think

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Speaker 2: that they would sit in a meeting and they would

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Speaker 2: hear that and they would just be like, Yeah, that's cool,

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Speaker 2: let me just take another sip of my dream.

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Speaker 1: They never heard it, they'd never heard it. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe that they haven't apologized or said something

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Speaker 2: just as a blanket statement, which I think we all

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Speaker 2: would have been okay with. Hey are bad, we messed

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Speaker 2: up on the comms. We're human, there was a mistake.

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Speaker 2: Let's let it go the fact that it's so stubborn

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Speaker 2: that it's like, no, we said something. I'm like, come

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Speaker 2: on anyway, I'm with you there, uh JB. Thank you

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Speaker 2: so much for joining us.

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Speaker 5: Great checkout?

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Speaker 1: Oh got kiss your basic? Allo?

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Speaker 5: Oh downgrading? Nice? You should try a rollback?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 2: True? Next week we'll send some We'll send them. How

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Speaker 2: about that, We'll send you some jab we got you.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you