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Speaker 2: Welcome to True Crime Tonight on iHeartRadio. We're talking true

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Speaker 2: crime all the time. It's Tuesday, November eleventh. Apparently that

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Speaker 2: is a very significant date. It is eleven eleven. Do

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Speaker 2: with that what you want, but I guess make a wish, yeah,

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Speaker 2: do good things, have great thoughts, and you know, speaking

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Speaker 2: of great thoughts, it is talk Back Tuesday, our favorite

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Speaker 2: Eight eight eight three one crime. We have a stacked

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Speaker 2: night of talkbacks. Lots to discuss about Epstein, lots of

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Speaker 2: banking questions. Also, we have some new developments regarding nine

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Speaker 2: year old Melody Buzzard and her search where is Melody Buzzard?

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Speaker 3: And much much more, and also a lot of cheese

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Speaker 2: So the demento cheese has been getting a lot of chatter,

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Speaker 2: So a men to that, and thank you.

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Speaker 3: Keep the tips coming, and you know, listen.

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Speaker 2: Most importantly, it's veterans day, So Happy Veterans, Happy Veterans Day.

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Speaker 2: It is not an easy time in the country right

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Speaker 2: now to be a veteran or to be serving, and

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Speaker 2: we're so grateful and really just can't say enough.

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Speaker 3: So if you have a story to share of somebody

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Speaker 2: is a returning veteran or has been a veteran, please

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Speaker 2: I'm Stephanie Lai Decker here, of course, with my favorite crew,

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Speaker 2: Courtney Armstrong. Body move in, and we have Taha and

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Speaker 2: Adam in the control room is on the straight and narrow,

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Speaker 2: so talkbacks, Listen, let's get to them, but keep them

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Speaker 2: coming throughout the night and we will try to squeeze

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Speaker 3: Real time. Let's go to one.

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Speaker 4: Now, Hey, y'all, it's step from Obama Again. I realized

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Speaker 4: I had another question. So this is not political. This

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Speaker 4: is just solely based on the kind of person that

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Speaker 4: Gallayne Maxwell is and the horrific and gross and disgusting

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Speaker 4: things that she was involved in. So I need to

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Speaker 4: understand how she can be even given a thought on

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Speaker 4: a possible pardon she does not deserve a pardon, not

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Speaker 4: for the things that she does, and not with her

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Speaker 5: Now, you know, I can imagine her sitting in her

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Speaker 5: car because that's what it's like, like smacking her hands

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Speaker 5: together like she said that with conviction, Yes, she mend.

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Speaker 3: It's all pretty shocking.

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Speaker 2: And the allegation or the conspiracy theory is take it

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Speaker 2: for what you want. Is that because she may have

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Speaker 2: powerful information to share or you know, people are very

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Speaker 2: very clear that they don't necessarily want her to share

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Speaker 2: that maybe she's getting preferential treatment as a result.

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Speaker 3: Courtney or not. You are shaking that head, shaking my head.

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Speaker 3: I have to agree with you.

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Speaker 7: The words you use, you know, just egregious and how

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Speaker 7: could this be possible? One thing I will state is

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Speaker 7: that in this moment, the pardon is it's nowhere near

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Speaker 7: an official thing, right the you know, she has not

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Speaker 7: been pardoned, and allegedly Trump said he would quote take

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Speaker 7: a look at it, but that he has not yet

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Speaker 3: So there is that.

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Speaker 2: There is that when we can remain hopeful and she is,

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Speaker 2: in fact, though you know, applying for correct You know,

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Speaker 2: I think they call it clemency, right, am I saying

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Speaker 2: that correctly? So you know she is putting together, you know,

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Speaker 2: getting from Warden's after hours to do printing, and that

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Speaker 2: is getting her case together. That's her goal, right, is

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Speaker 2: to be excused from the punishment that she is claiming

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Speaker 2: she did not do. You know, it's funny the place

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Speaker 2: that she's being held, just to add some context to

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Speaker 2: so keep that in mind as well. I don't even

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Speaker 2: Jenshaw from have watched The Housewives City, Yeah, that's.

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Speaker 3: Allegedly where she had been. Are they together in the

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Speaker 2: So they say that they keep it very confidential who

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Speaker 2: these individual types of you know, air quotes, guests are

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Speaker 2: Elizabeth Holmes, you remember her, the founder, correct exactly, Convicted

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Speaker 2: of fraud, serving an eleven year sentence. Again Geelane Maxwell

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Speaker 2: But is that really the same category?

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Speaker 3: And I think that's why people feel outraged.

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Speaker 2: And then on top of that, to hear that she's

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Speaker 2: It sounds like, you know, and again it's really terrible

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Speaker 2: And that's part of the equation here. Yeah, in order

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Speaker 2: like somebody has to sign off on it. It's a

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Speaker 5: I just find that so unimaginable that she can have

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Speaker 5: the computer thing is really bothering me because she's able

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Speaker 5: to communicate with the outside world without any monitoring. She

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Speaker 3: I don't know something.

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Speaker 2: And what she is accused of is a worldwide operation

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Speaker 2: that is potentially still happening in real time.

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Speaker 3: That is the accusation.

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Speaker 2: So it's not as though this is, you know, a

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Speaker 2: I find it so surprising as well and disappointing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's upsetting, it's very upsetting. I don't even know

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Speaker 3: Enough, you know what I mean, Yeah, let's talk cheese.

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Speaker 3: I no, no, no, no, that's not what I mean.

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Speaker 3: That's not what I mean.

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Speaker 5: I just I don't even I just don't know how

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Speaker 5: to how to be Like I'm stunned, more outraged more.

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Speaker 3: I like it's like how how is this possible?

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Speaker 5: But always appeal but I feel like every day I

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Speaker 5: keeps adding up, Like I just you learn a little

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Speaker 3: What she's a prisoner, she's a guest.

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Speaker 3: Convicted Yes, she's a convicted guest. Convicted guest.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know make of it what you will,

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Speaker 2: you know we will be following it closely.

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Speaker 3: Oh. Absolutely, Let's go to another talk back.

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Speaker 6: Let's do it, do it?

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Speaker 8: I true crime.

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Speaker 9: Gigi.

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Speaker 8: Here, I'm listening to your podcast from yesterday and you're

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Speaker 8: talking about Gillen Maxwell and it's so under my skin.

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Speaker 8: I think people need to remember how naive teenage girls are.

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Speaker 8: They are extremely naive. Their brains aren't developed properly yet.

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Speaker 8: They don't make good decisions for themselves. So yes, if

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would have honest hundered. Oh me too, I'm

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Speaker 3: still naive. I'm fifty. Yeah, you know totally.

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Speaker 2: That's the trick. That's exactly right. And they're looking for

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Speaker 5: And you know, I think that's the point of them

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Speaker 5: recruiting these girls. They know that they're vulnerable, their naive.

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Speaker 5: This is exactly the playbook they intentionally target them, right. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: that was a good talk back in your spot on,

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Speaker 2: My mom was telling me my mom is in town visiting,

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Speaker 2: and she was, you know, giving me all kinds of

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Speaker 2: the book you Know, Nobody's Girls, written by Virginia Gruffrey,

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Speaker 2: the main face of this case, who recently took her

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Speaker 2: just because it's so familiar and right in front of them, comfortable,

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Speaker 7: That's exactly right. Well, this is your crime. Tonight we

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Speaker 7: are on iHeartRadio. We are thrilled to be with you

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Speaker 7: this Tuesday, November eleventh, this Veterans Day. Once again, Happy

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Speaker 7: Veterans Day. I'm Courtney. I am here with Body Movin

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Speaker 7: and Stephanie Leidecker and we're talking about Geelaine Maxwell and

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Speaker 7: the treatment she getting. If you have any opinions, give

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Speaker 10: Hey, y'all, this is Jennifer from Texas.

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Speaker 9: I was listening to your coverage from Monday night, specifically

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Speaker 9: I am just having a hard time understanding.

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Speaker 3: Can you lay it out for me?

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Speaker 9: Like I am a total dummy and don't understand anything

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Speaker 9: because I kind of don't. Thank you so much. I

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Speaker 5: I'm so glad that she asked that, because I was

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Speaker 5: scared to say the same thing. I didn't really understand.

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Speaker 5: I really didn't. Stephanie, you did a great job of

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Speaker 5: laying it out, but I am like a financial idiot.

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Speaker 5: Can you lay out for us again, what's going on there?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I mean if you go to the specifics and Courtney's

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Speaker 2: Alteeda because we have some straight fascist yeah straight.

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Speaker 3: It's not theory.

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Speaker 2: These are indictments and things that have been stated in

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Speaker 2: indictments and banks that are now being brought into the

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Speaker 2: larger conversation, but frankly have been in the conversation for

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Speaker 2: years and years and years. We just didn't know it

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Speaker 2: and there was no access to this information. So now

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Speaker 2: information that we're getting in bits and pieces and you know,

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Speaker 2: partial transparency. Some of the things that are being noted

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Speaker 2: it's very important stuff because obviously money laundering or drug money,

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Speaker 3: Why I said it that way, I'll never do that again.

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Speaker 2: Tear talking about the banking behaviors related to Jeffrey Epstein

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Speaker 3: So that's like the scope of this. In court, you

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Speaker 7: Yes, although my gosh, so I can't believe that's three

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Speaker 3: The specific relationship with Epstein.

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Speaker 2: So everybody's been new information. Yeah, this has been going

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Speaker 2: We just don't know what it gets us too, right,

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Speaker 5: Keep a modeling agency. You need to stay on it.

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Speaker 11: Hello, Michelle with one L here and I am really

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Speaker 3: Does it have to be more time?

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Speaker 11: I'm just it's very infuriating and worrisome.

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Speaker 3: So why why has that happened yet?

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Speaker 11: Any thoughts?

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Speaker 10: Think you love your show.

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Speaker 3: Michelle, Michelle was one.

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Speaker 5: Now you know that's a great question, Michelle with wanew

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Speaker 5: and that's what I'm going to call you for the

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Speaker 3: Michelle Wine. I don't know.

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Speaker 5: And you know there's other cases where you know, things

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Speaker 5: Parents have been charged with things like obstruction of justice, right,

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Speaker 5: idea that she basically was holding somebody hostage.

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Speaker 3: Right, this is kind of a new thing. She's going

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Speaker 5: I believe tomorrow. Yeah, yeah, she's going to be a

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Speaker 5: little bit. And you know, this is just insane. So

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Speaker 5: do that again. He's a paralegal and apparently after Melody

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Speaker 5: went missing, he went to the home to offer his services,

440
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Speaker 5: like to help find Melody, okay, And when he got there,

441
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Speaker 5: you know, he was talking to Ashley, this is the

442
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Speaker 5: mother of Melody, and according to him, he kind of

443
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 5: she lets something slip that she later regretted, and she

444
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 5: locked all the bolts on the door and got a

445
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Speaker 5: box cutter and basically I'm paraphrasing here, wouldn't let him leave, Okay,

446
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 5: so that's why she got arrested. And this happened on

447
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 5: November sixth, this this you know, this altercation. Now since then,

448
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 5: it's come out that the thing that she let slip

449
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Speaker 5: was where she took melody, So there's some hope, you know.

450
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Speaker 5: But Tyler, the man that was you know, held captive,

451
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,919
Speaker 5: says he doesn't know if he believes her. But he

452
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Speaker 5: is a mandate a reporter, you know, because he does

453
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Speaker 5: many different he's kind of like a jack of all trades.

454
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Speaker 5: And he did, you know, obviously inform the police department,

455
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Speaker 5: because I mean, she's been arrested. He obviously they know

456
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Speaker 5: this happened. So hopefully there's some movement there. And I'm

457
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Speaker 5: venturing to guess that she's going to be found around

458
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Speaker 5: some and I think she might be alive. To you guys,

459
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Speaker 5: I think yes, you know, I think so too. And

460
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Speaker 5: I really kind of think that Mom because Tyler, remember

461
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Speaker 5: we were talking yesterday and I mentioned like maybe Mom

462
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Speaker 5: is just really paranoid, like even the FB, Like she's

463
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Speaker 5: in a state where the paranoia has taken over and

464
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Speaker 5: she's trying to like protect her daughter, right, and so

465
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Speaker 5: she gets her out of the state, right. I don't know,

466
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Speaker 5: and even in her mind in this paranoid state, even

467
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Speaker 5: the FBI or the bad guys right like, even they

468
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 5: can't know where she's at. She has to be protected.

469
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Speaker 5: This is why I'm hoping. I mean, I'm very much hoping.

470
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Speaker 5: And I think if you look at the route she took,

471
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Speaker 5: it was reported that she was seen in Utah right

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Speaker 5: with Melanie, and that was in junction Utah. Okay, there's

473
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Speaker 5: a private investigator out there right now kind of scoping

474
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Speaker 5: it out. But if you look at the route, in

475
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Speaker 5: order to get the junction Utah, she would have to

476
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Speaker 5: get off her main route.

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Speaker 3: So there's a reason she went to this junction Utah.

478
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Speaker 3: I think, I don't know.

479
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Speaker 2: So we don't know anything other than this kind of

480
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,679
Speaker 2: hung with me last night and we talked about this

481
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Speaker 2: very briefly. That it had also been reported that she

482
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Speaker 2: knew several of her now deceased father's friends along the

483
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Speaker 2: way on that route. So dad died in a car

484
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Speaker 2: accident very tragically, or a motorbike accident. He died and

485
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Speaker 2: leaving her a single mother who has now either hit

486
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Speaker 2: very hard times emotionally speaking and is having a psychotic

487
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Speaker 2: break or is justified and thinks it's in her best

488
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Speaker 2: interest of her daughter to move her someplace safe out

489
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Speaker 2: of reality, or she's done something nefarious to her child,

490
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Speaker 2: and you know, that's the scenario above all else that

491
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Speaker 2: we want to eliminate immediately, of course, and.

492
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Speaker 3: This is giving some hope for that.

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Speaker 5: I hope, I mean, I hope I'm not being like Pollyanna,

494
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Speaker 5: you know, m because this does have a lot of

495
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 5: scary details to it, like the wigs, the way it's

496
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 5: reported that along this route to and from that, you know,

497
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 5: mom changed wigs several times. The license plates, she changed

498
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Speaker 5: her license plates after she got the car from the

499
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Speaker 5: rental facility. Those are scary details, right, those are scary details.

500
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Speaker 5: And you know we've been learning through you know, no

501
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Speaker 5: learning about trafficking and whatnot, that this is kind of

502
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Speaker 5: a scary thing to to to realize has happened, that

503
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Speaker 5: she's changing these plates and whatnot. So yeah, they're very Yeah,

504
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Speaker 5: they're tells thank you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, we'll see.

506
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Speaker 7: I'm seeing you had mentioned Utah before, and I'm seeing

507
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Speaker 7: on News Nation that Tyler Brewer, who you were speaking

508
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Speaker 7: about just now, that he does say that he suspects.

509
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Speaker 3: That Melody is in Utah.

510
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Speaker 7: Oh really, Yeah, so what I'm reading is he didn't

511
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Speaker 7: share any further details of her whereabouts with New News

512
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Speaker 7: Nation except to say he suspects the girl as in Utah.

513
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Speaker 3: That's all the information.

514
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Speaker 2: Fingers are crossed, sending out as much love and light

515
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Speaker 2: to have that be the case. And by the way,

516
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Speaker 2: this guy is a hero. Not only is he, you know,

517
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 2: getting his life threatened with the box cutter and being

518
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Speaker 2: trapped behind closed doors by a potentially danger is woman

519
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 2: number one, then he has the nerve to go.

520
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 3: And report it.

521
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 2: Hats off to law enforcement because they got her off

522
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,719
Speaker 2: the streets temporarily on this charge at the bare minimum

523
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 2: while they investigate further. But at least now she's safe

524
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 2: and everybody around her is safe, and now we can

525
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 2: just pray for Melody is safe return right.

526
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 5: And this Tyler a person that she you know, the

527
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 5: hero in our story right now, he's known Melody since

528
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 5: twenty fourteen. He's known her for a long time. Oh no, yeah,

529
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Speaker 5: so he is familiar with her. That's why she let

530
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Speaker 5: him in. And yeah, I'm sorry I should have been. No,

531
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Speaker 5: I said that a lot about this today too. He's

532
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Speaker 5: been concerned.

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Speaker 12: You know.

534
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Speaker 5: So he stopped by to offer like his help, you know,

535
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Speaker 5: as a friend or an acquaintance, and he said that

536
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Speaker 5: she is increasingly paranoid. So I thought that was important

537
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 5: to add, because you know, I'm talking about this paranoia, like,

538
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Speaker 5: why doesn't she just all the FBI where her daughter

539
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 5: as well? Maybe in her mind the FBI is out

540
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 5: to get her. Right, we're not paranoid people, so we

541
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 5: don't know what that's like. But if you are, you

542
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 5: might think the man is, they have to get me,

543
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 5: and they're gonna take my daughter, They're gonna you know whatever.

544
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's what you know. Those are also

545
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 2: tells of a schizophrenic break. God forbid, you know that

546
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Speaker 2: will track.

547
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Speaker 5: We're gonna have to see what happens tomorrow at her arraignment.

548
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 5: Apparently she's getting arranged tomorrow for this, you know, false imprisonment.

549
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 6: Wow.

550
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Speaker 3: Do we know if that will be televised? I don't.

551
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Speaker 3: I don't know. I would imagine, but I'm not certain.

552
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Speaker 7: I'd be very curious of her demeanor me too, if

553
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 7: in fact, if she speaks, if she speaks.

554
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Speaker 3: If she even speaks at all, or like what her

555
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 3: plea's going.

556
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 7: To be, right, and it's her right not to speak

557
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 7: or to have her attorney speak on her behalf and

558
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Speaker 7: et cetera.

559
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 5: So but we'll keep following up. Yeah, like I'm hot

560
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 5: on this one. Yeah, I'm hot on this one.

561
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 2: You did a great job laying that out, Like, OK, good, Yes,

562
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 2: and Courtney you with all that bank talk, very well done.

563
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 3: Very very well done. Courtney, You're so good at everything.

564
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 2: Oh, we're talking true crime all the time of Stephanie

565
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 2: Leidecker here with body Movin and Courtney Armstrong and of

566
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,959
Speaker 2: course we have Taha and Adam on our favorite night

567
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 2: of the week, Talk Back Tuesday, and Happy veterans to

568
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 2: all who have served and are serving. Man, I mean,

569
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 2: we got to do better. I mean, this is something

570
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 2: that's affecting all of us. Somebody that we love so

571
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 2: so much, you know, was just relaying that her beloved

572
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 2: husband has just been, you know, deployed three days ago.

573
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 2: She's a single mom, two young children and no paycheck.

574
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 2: It's pretty wild and like no real clear direction, like

575
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 2: deployed for a year, which is such an incredible sacrifice.

576
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 3: So we honor.

577
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 2: My dad was in the army and he served also,

578
00:31:54,520 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 2: and it is a real honor. Joseph Scott Morgan also yes, yes,

579
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 2: and so to the many.

580
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 3: His military photo on Instagram.

581
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 6: Yeah to see who.

582
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 2: I didn't see that today, but I have seen it

583
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 2: before and it's just you know, this is true honor.

584
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 2: So for all the servicemen and women who are serving,

585
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 2: we celebrate you entirely today and every day.

586
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 6: Yes.

587
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,959
Speaker 3: So are we gonna do some talk box talk back apparently.

588
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 6: Insists I know this time Adam's taking over, so let's

589
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 6: see which one he chooses be in the wheel.

590
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 3: I feel like we need a sound effect.

591
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 13: Hey everyone, it's Laura from Material calling back. I'm the

592
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 13: Chipotle girlie. You're talking about factors on the podcast this morning.

593
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 13: It's so funny how you refer to it as such

594
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 13: ancient technology. At least turn in Canada for all healthcare

595
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 13: is so based on fact gen wowow, I see you

596
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 13: facts in my daily life. It's pretty okay indeed, but

597
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 13: not on that's awesome.

598
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 5: It is archaic. But you know what, it's reliable, right right.

599
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 5: That's the thing about it. It's reliable. It's a phone line,

600
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 5: it's analog. It's very reliable. So I can I can

601
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,719
Speaker 5: see you know a lot of industry still using fact machines.

602
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 5: It's just surprising that the healthcare system would still neighbors

603
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 5: to the north.

604
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 6: But I guess I would I question, like why if

605
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 6: in this day and age now you can print it,

606
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 6: like you can just send something in type prints instead of.

607
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 3: Your email or scan.

608
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 2: It seems like a slower process and there's maybe more

609
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Speaker 2: a margin for error, but.

610
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Speaker 5: It might be more because it's it's probably pretty secure,

611
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 5: right health stuff.

612
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 6: That makes sense.

613
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 3: That is very true. That is a good point.

614
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, that is I not a lot of hackers attacking

615
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 5: fact machines.

616
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 6: The heck my facts.

617
00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 3: They got my medical records from the facts shoe there.

618
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 3: We shall get our hardlines reinstalled.

619
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Speaker 6: Right, Well, I think we can go to another one.

620
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Speaker 9: All right, Hi.

621
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Speaker 14: Guys, my name is Jess. I haven't called in before,

622
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 14: but I've been listening forever. I was just listening to

623
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 14: your Sunday Night show and the caller called in about

624
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Speaker 14: being an organ donner on your license. Well, let me speak,

625
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,240
Speaker 14: because I'm actually a critical peer nurse and a trauma

626
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 14: sense of peer unit and organ donation status is not

627
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Speaker 14: something that we ever even know consider, it's not ever

628
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Speaker 14: communicated to us. That's something that like happens way after

629
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Speaker 14: you know, we person has been declared brain dead, but

630
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Speaker 14: we treat every priest the same, regardless of organ donation

631
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 14: status or other discriminatory Anyways, thanks guys, keep up the

632
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 14: great work.

633
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 3: Great talk bag. I love the clarity on that one, right.

634
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 6: Yeah.

635
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, by the way, I did just check the box

636
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,919
Speaker 2: for my organ donating on a new license, so good. Yeah,

637
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 2: I'm hats off, but yeah, I think that. I think

638
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 2: we all know that, but I do think it's worth restating.

639
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 3: Also, a hard job.

640
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 2: What a hard job that is? Yeah, nurse or any

641
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 2: of that. Yeah, just urging care.

642
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 3: And I was.

643
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Speaker 7: Reading about obviously with the government shutdown, many things are impacted,

644
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 7: including the flight traffic coordinators and some some of the

645
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 7: things that were being down and not able to be

646
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Speaker 7: flown included some lungs for transplant.

647
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Speaker 3: I never thought about. Yeah, that's right. God, So what

648
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Speaker 3: did they do? You know what happened with the light?

649
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 15: You know?

650
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 7: I don't it was something, although if I find it,

651
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Speaker 7: I will circle back after the commercial.

652
00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 6: But goodness, it's the domino, or at least I don't

653
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:05,439
Speaker 6: like the rip. I would not have even Yeah, oh god,

654
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 6: that's horrible.

655
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Speaker 2: Courtney and I worked for the great Jonathan Kotch. We

656
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Speaker 2: had a boss and someone who I consider a very

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Speaker 2: dear and beloved friend.

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Speaker 3: So Jonathan Kotch.

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Speaker 2: He he lost his arm, and long story short, was

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Speaker 2: the first person to have like a full on hand

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Speaker 2: arm replacement at UCLA, like the super Bowl of surgeries

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Speaker 2: in this case, in his case.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, it's a very big deal.

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Speaker 2: It's minute to minute, second to second, and once there

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Speaker 2: was an available limb, then yeah, it's like, you know,

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Speaker 2: a real big operation. You know that whatever happens has

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Speaker 2: to happen in record time, and you know the pacing

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Speaker 2: of that to keep it as a real viable option

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Speaker 2: for even a transplant is major high stake stuff.

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Speaker 3: I mean imagine.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, things getting impacted that my heart, And it

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Speaker 2: turned out great for Jonathan. He has he is a

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Speaker 2: bionic man of greatness and we should have him on

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Speaker 2: sometime too.

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Speaker 3: Amazing great. So yeah, that's such a great talk back.

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Speaker 3: I'd never would have thought of that me neither.

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Speaker 6: I had neither. I have a dumb question about the

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Speaker 6: organ donor or box that you checked. It's is it

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Speaker 6: every organ or is it like do you specify?

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Speaker 3: Which was just one box. It was a general all

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Speaker 3: things in general, and you know they're not going to

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Speaker 3: want all of them, is my guess. I can't see

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Speaker 3: or hear.

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Speaker 6: Well, No, I'm I'm thinking about doing it myself because

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Speaker 6: of this conversation. This show impacts me a lot, and

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Speaker 6: this is one of the things that has made me

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Speaker 6: think about doing that and also some charity work I

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Speaker 6: want to do and let's.

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Speaker 3: Do it together. Yes, yes, I support the veterans too.

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Speaker 6: It is it is, it is.

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Speaker 5: It is eleven eleven, and not only is it Bedlins Day,

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Speaker 5: but it's Angel Day. It's eleven and you, guys, it's

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Speaker 5: you're making these decisions on eleven eleven. It's meant to

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Speaker 5: share a little child.

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Speaker 2: Just now, everybody listening, close your eyes, make a wish.

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Speaker 2: What are we going to do to make the world

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Speaker 2: a little better? And if you have any cliff notes,

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Speaker 2: let us know. But we are stronger together. I tell

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Speaker 2: you that.

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Speaker 6: That's right.

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Speaker 5: What else are we supposed to do on eleven eleven?

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Speaker 5: There's something like, is there some kind of ceremony that we.

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Speaker 3: Need to do?

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Speaker 5: Like to make it a ceremony, Let's do it. Give

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Speaker 5: us a call eight to DA thirty one crime, let

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Speaker 5: us know, let us know.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and now let's do some more talk backs.

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Speaker 3: Let me do it.

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Speaker 10: Let's h true Crime Tonight. Is Christine from Alberta, Canada.

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Speaker 10: I listen to your podcast the next day through the

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Speaker 10: Spotify app and just recently noticed that we can leave

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Speaker 10: comments in question under each episode. My question is, are

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Speaker 10: you folks checking that app to see any questions or comments?

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Speaker 6: Thanks?

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Speaker 3: Great question.

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Speaker 6: I didn't even know, and we are checking those. I

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Speaker 6: will let you know that, Ava and Whitney, we have

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Speaker 6: been going through that's where sometimes where we just write

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Speaker 6: dms for everyone in our just to keep it kind

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Speaker 6: of simple. Not that I'm saying you guys need it

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Speaker 6: to be kept simple, but we keep it simple. Like

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Speaker 6: everything is in the DM section. But those are Spotify responses,

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Speaker 6: those are direct messages. There are other the Apple messages

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Speaker 6: we get as well, so we've been keeping all of

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Speaker 6: those and kind of cultivating everything.

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Speaker 3: You know, Taha, I had no idea. You guys said that.

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Speaker 5: I'm learning about how the show operates. I had no idea.

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Speaker 6: But it's all and we keep the boring stuff off

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Speaker 6: your plate so you can focus on the interesting crime analyze.

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Speaker 2: We love the comments and there you back in this.

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Speaker 2: You know it has been so fun. We keep them

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Speaker 2: coming because it's really such a joy.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's my favorite part already, speaking of just do

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Speaker 6: some more of them.

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Speaker 12: Hi, guys, it's Alicia from Atlanta. Listen, I'm gonna leave

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Speaker 12: you guys to stop date keeping. That's correct, date keeping.

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Speaker 12: The visual vibes, I could feel it through the phone.

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Speaker 12: I would love to see everyone's faces.

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Speaker 3: Okay, no makeup.

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Speaker 12: Hear a mess yamma, not pajamas, just being over forty

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Speaker 12: and fabulous.

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Speaker 7: That's right.

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Speaker 5: Should I take a screenshot right now of our little

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Speaker 5: screens Instagram?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 16: Yeah, embrace authenticity, and yes, I'll send it to really embrace. Okay,

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Speaker 16: ready everybody smiles two.

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Speaker 3: About it?

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Speaker 6: Oh wait, no I didn't, No, I didn't.

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Speaker 3: Here we got we go ye there, Okay, we're gonna

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Speaker 3: post it. You couldn't hear me. But I said cheese

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Speaker 3: sneaking up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that should be the buzzword. That should be a

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Speaker 2: drinking game anytime we heard the word cheese.

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Speaker 3: But your ears up again, which is so adorable. But

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Speaker 3: I did again.

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Speaker 2: Both of them have this like long mermaid hair, and

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Speaker 2: Courtney has come in tonight with body, both of them

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Speaker 2: with their hair, the hair drawn, it's down my headphones.

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Speaker 3: They get like tangled in my arm. I just put

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Speaker 3: it up because it's like it's so pretty crime a river.

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Speaker 2: It's for all of us to wear a red light

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Speaker 2: hair hat to you know, promote growth.

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Speaker 3: I need all the light coolers there are.

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Speaker 7: I was on a zoom the other day and I

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Speaker 7: was like, out, oh, yeah, I need a lot of

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Speaker 7: different light therapies, alligator.

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Speaker 6: Skin, but pajamas, Like I would be into doing some

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Speaker 6: jammis at night. That would be kind of cute.

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Speaker 2: Maybe we'll do like a one night a week, you know,

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Speaker 2: but we have to embrace in that.

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Speaker 3: It is the real of it.

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Speaker 5: That we had on Thursday, definitely christ the pajamas that

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Speaker 5: she had on. I was like, I need our uniform,

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Speaker 5: can we please? Like yeah, it was so cute. She

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Speaker 5: was so cute and that should be our uniform.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, like everything she said kind of

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Speaker 2: stuck with me because I found myself it's simple stuff

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Speaker 2: like sense and like, yeah, you know, it's getting really cold,

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Speaker 2: so having some candles, you know from TJ Max that

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Speaker 2: are again these are like very small little additions to

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Speaker 2: our world. But boy, they make a difference, and yeah,

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Speaker 2: maybe we need some like really beautiful pjs.

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Speaker 7: Pjs and the diffuse user I can't talk enough about.

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Speaker 3: I have several diffusers in my house. Yes I do

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Speaker 3: stick that just come out, not even sticks.

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Speaker 7: But you know, I think I'm using the wrong word.

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Speaker 7: They uh, they pour out steam. You turn them on

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Speaker 7: it and you put essential oils in central oil is

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Speaker 7: what I lift this, or lavender or if you want

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Speaker 7: to get all pumped up, you can do an orange

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Speaker 7: and I swear it changes the energy.

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Speaker 5: And you just put that in and it misss. We're

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Speaker 5: going to get seven hundred talk backs about these.

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Speaker 2: I guarante ask the way I have when she's describing

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Speaker 2: to me, Yeah, orange is put to chains. She's so right,

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Speaker 2: and it does set the vibe. Shout out to Britney

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Speaker 2: Campbell who gave me mine. But I use it every

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Speaker 2: single day and you're one hundred percent right. And again

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Speaker 2: a really beautiful start to the day. A little a

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Speaker 2: little a rooumotherapy to check that out.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I just use my Badine Works candle like

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Speaker 5: you know, pantry folds ridiculous front I.

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Speaker 3: Have, ye, Well, she steals on my bath and body

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Speaker 3: works coupons though.

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Speaker 5: In my mailbox Ground Symbiotics, so this sounds wonderful.

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Speaker 7: She takes coupon, actually physically goes to the store, and

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Speaker 7: then you end up with a candle.

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Speaker 2: Yea that is not an easy store to walk into

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Speaker 2: because the smell.

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Speaker 3: Is very It's kind of like almost get overwhelmed a

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Speaker 3: little bicular store.

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Speaker 6: I just kind of the eighth candle. I'm smelling them.

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Speaker 6: They all smell us like smells like tell the difference.

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Speaker 6: So but but I have to say, the pimental cheese

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Speaker 6: that you mentioned, We've gotten more talkbacks about that than

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Speaker 6: I don't know what. It's crazy.

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Speaker 7: Everybody cares about your taste.

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Speaker 3: But I'm so happy.

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Speaker 6: Then you guys, Adam, can we play one more of those?

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Speaker 6: Because I want we have so I want to hear one.

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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, Hey.

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Speaker 17: Ladies, this is Anna from Providence, Rhode Island.

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Speaker 3: I just wanted to comment.

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Speaker 17: About the pimento cheese mystery.

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Speaker 3: So I did a deep drive on Google.

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Speaker 11: And craft markets.

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Speaker 2: It as a pimento spread, not a cheese, and I'm

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Speaker 2: assuming this is.

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Speaker 3: Why it is shelf stable. I love your show. I

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Speaker 3: listen every day. Thanks by You're yes, so.

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Speaker 5: I haven't seen it in a really long time. This

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Speaker 5: is okay, let me break this down's let's let's.

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Speaker 6: End this Monday cheese. Okay, I got it.

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Speaker 5: We always just called it pimento cheese. Okay, Okay, that's

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Speaker 5: just what we called it in my family. And I

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Speaker 5: haven't had it in like years, and I've been thinking

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Speaker 5: about it lately, and I'm like, God, I really want

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Speaker 5: that pimento cheese my mom used to buy. Well, I

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Speaker 5: haven't seen it in the stores, and I'm looking and

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Speaker 5: I'm looking and I'm looking, and because I haven't seen it,

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Speaker 5: I forgot that it's called pimento spread.

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Speaker 3: But it's orange. It's like orange yellow like a cheese.

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Speaker 2: So I just like, I literally can picture it. I need,

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Speaker 2: like an actual need.

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Speaker 3: I hosted it to my Instagram. You can go look

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Speaker 3: at a picture of it.

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Speaker 7: Thank you for that talkback. Thank you for your deep dell. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: that we're looking for is spread and you know all

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Speaker 7: of the above, So listen, keep it up, and coming

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Speaker 7: up at the top of the next hour, we have

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Speaker 7: more of your talkbacks. You are driving the show tonight

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Speaker 7: as always on talkback Tuesdays, and we are going to

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Speaker 7: be covering some really shocking, lenient sentences that.

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Speaker 3: We call into question.

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Speaker 7: We have a little bit of justice fails and lots more.

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Speaker 3: Keep it here True Crime Tonight. We are talking true

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Speaker 3: crime all the time.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to True Crime Tonight on iHeartRadio. We're talking

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Speaker 2: true crime all the time. Stephan Decker here as always

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Speaker 2: with Courtney Armstrong. Body move in and yes we have

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Speaker 2: the gentleman. Taha and Adam are in the house and listen.

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Speaker 3: It's talk Back Tuesday.

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Speaker 18: Hey, this is Stephanie Thibodeaux from London, Ontario, and I

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877
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Speaker 18: the jail system should be treated like other criminals and

878
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 18: not live a life of luxury. Anyway, love your show.

879
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:09,800
Speaker 3: Bye here here sister, Absolutely I agree.

880
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:14,240
Speaker 5: The problem I think it comes to, like with Gidlaine Maxwell,

881
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 5: I think, you know, and Ditty and whatnot, is that

882
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 5: it's not just the money it's or the celebrity status.

883
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 3: It's not that at all. It's the power that they have.

884
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 5: Right in Glene Maxwell's case, it's this information that she

885
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 5: might have that they don't want her to talk about

886
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 5: or they're hushing her up. In Ditty's case, it's like,

887
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 5: what can Diddy do for me when he gets out

888
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:37,919
Speaker 5: exactly right?

889
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 9: That's it?

890
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 2: Or could he be dangerous potentially also when he's out,

891
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 2: So maybe he gets special treatment for that reason as well,

892
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 2: because listen, you know, come to think of it. By

893
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 2: the way, I agree with that talk back so much.

894
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:51,839
Speaker 3: Me too.

895
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 2: But there are other cases too, now that I'm thinking

896
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 2: it through, that have had celebrity kind of backfire.

897
00:48:58,360 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know. I just watched the Martha

898
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 3: Stewart doc. Again. If you haven't seen that, that's a

899
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 3: good one. I haven't seen it. It's so interesting.

900
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 2: We should I mean, I know it's not a crime crime,

901
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 2: but it is true crime adjacent because.

902
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 3: Jail.

903
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know what, she took it like a

904
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 2: stud and you know, really felt as though it was

905
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 2: wrong and it was not easy. But that's what I mean, like,

906
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 2: you take, you take the punishment, you do the time,

907
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 2: you know, you you do better, you get yourself straight,

908
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 2: and you you do better in the world after.

909
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 3: And that's when it gets me so bummed.

910
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 2: About the Gilly Maxwells or the you know, maybe Diddy

911
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 2: who's not necessarily taking full accountability for what actually is

912
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 2: the problem and therefore still getting preferential treatment. That does

913
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 2: seem so unfair. Like the Krizzlies have a kind of

914
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 2: bad behind bars.

915
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,760
Speaker 3: And they said the part of getting in their food

916
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 3: and wild so sometimes it could be tough.

917
00:49:58,280 --> 00:49:59,959
Speaker 5: Let me ask you a question stuff, And I wanted

918
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 5: asked you last night, but I got distracted obviously.

919
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 3: Do you think the Hoots story is true? Yes? So

920
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 3: do I Yeah, you've had absolutely.

921
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 5: Okay, so we're all on the same page. Okay, yeah,

922
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 5: maybe we would have somebody that disagreed, but okay, no.

923
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,879
Speaker 2: But that's what's so annoying about it is if it

924
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 2: is it a huge deal that they he drank fermented,

925
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 2: you know, apples, and that's like maybe a rite of

926
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 2: passage as you enter a new thing. No, I'm sure

927
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 2: it stinks to be behind bars, and I'm sure that

928
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 2: happens all the time. What's different is just recently did

929
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 2: he was touting how he's a changed man and a

930
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 2: sober man at that and that his sobriety and you know,

931
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 2: his compass as a man was full throttle improving and

932
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:51,439
Speaker 2: at the first swing in a lower security system. He's

933
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 2: only been there for two weeks here where he has

934
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 2: two air quotes in fractions put against two. Yeah, the hoots,

935
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 2: which is this like bootleg booz I know the one right,

936
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 2: which again his lawyers have denied although I saw, I

937
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 2: don't know if this is a reliable enough source, but

938
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:12,479
Speaker 2: TMZ reported that their sourcing says it's one hundred percent true,

939
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 2: and it's.

940
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 7: They stand by They stand by the sourcing.

941
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I believe that's one thing.

942
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 2: And also he was like on a three way call,

943
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 2: which you're not allowed to do in prison. You can't

944
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 2: use the prison phone unless you're gilling Maxwell and you

945
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 2: get your own special phone probably, but in Diddi's case,

946
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 2: in a way to beat the system allegedly would be

947
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 2: you go through the prison phone, you know, as you

948
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 2: can picture it, it's like, ok, probably an ordeal, and

949
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:44,399
Speaker 2: then they dial in the third person. Now it's no

950
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 2: longer in the source, right, so you can't just.

951
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 3: People.

952
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 6: I did not know that, Like I this is some

953
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 6: of the sun learning, So I didn't know if I

954
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 6: called someone they couldn't then bring other people.

955
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 2: It's still real though, right, you cannot put three people

956
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 2: in call and just start bringing it in, right.

957
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 7: It's actually it is a violation of the Federal Bureau

958
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 7: of Prisons, and it restricts inmates. They can only speak

959
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 7: with approved individuals, and these multiperson calls are one hundred percent.

960
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 3: You can't dial a friend and pull them in a friend.

961
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's going to be a new album when he

962
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 5: gets out front.

963
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:29,359
Speaker 6: Interesting, so we'll see.

964
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,800
Speaker 7: The prison officials are actually recommending he loses three months

965
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 7: or ninety days of phone privileges and ninety days of

966
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 7: commissary privileges. However, however, his legal team has stated the

967
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 7: call was just a procedural call. It was initiated by

968
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 7: one of his attorneys and was touched under attorney crime

969
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 7: privilege comes.

970
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 3: On so he was calling in lawyers. That's even weirder.

971
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 2: Your lawyers don't allegedly know that you're not supposed to

972
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 2: dial in random people and a federal prison. When listen,

973
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 2: we've done so many shows with those who are serving

974
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 2: time behind bars, all kinds of different variations of projects,

975
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 2: and it's a big deal.

976
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 3: You have to put a very specific list together.

977
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 2: You know, only X amount of people can you call

978
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 2: X amount of time. Sometimes you got to wait in line,

979
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 2: then you have to get dialed in. You have ten minutes.

980
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 2: If you get cut off, you got to go to

981
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 2: the back of the line. It is a thing, right,

982
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 2: it's everybody's linked to the outside world, and it's monitored

983
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 2: for obvious reasons. But it also is monitor because the

984
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 2: people on the list also have to be approved by

985
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 2: the prison system. Imagine you're you know, you're in prison

986
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,240
Speaker 2: for doing drugs, and now you're dealing drugs from behind bars.

987
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 2: That's the kind of thing you're trying to avoid. I'm

988
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,800
Speaker 2: not suggesting that's what Diddy was doing, but that's why

989
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 2: those rules exist. You know, think of the mob who

990
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 2: are like, oh yeah, let's get Uncle Knuckles to take

991
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 2: care of Uncle Vinnie.

992
00:53:54,239 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 7: You know, and maybe the uncle knuckles uncle knuckles.

993
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:04,479
Speaker 2: Rules, so you know, that's like you can't be doing

994
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 2: you can't be calling some shots or gambling behind bars,

995
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 2: even though I can imagine the list goes on. So

996
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 2: in Ditty's case, given what he has been accused of,

997
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 2: it's like, come on, really, Diddy, you think your fancy

998
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 2: lawyers didn't know that either. And again it's a bummer

999
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 2: because I like Ditty and I wanted to like Ditty,

1000
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,879
Speaker 2: and I'm just heartbroken over this all. And he has

1001
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:29,839
Speaker 2: a new headshot also known as a mug shot, and

1002
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 2: it's staggering.

1003
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 3: Wonder what your mugshot would ever look like? I don't wonder.

1004
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 3: I'd be so hysterical.

1005
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 5: Side literally my eyelashes was falling off like dry heaving. Yeah,

1006
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 5: they'd like smile, would sit like yeah, I would be

1007
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:47,439
Speaker 5: freaking out.

1008
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 3: The worst photo.

1009
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 2: Well, I listen, having again I feel like I'm talking

1010
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 2: about this damn license photo so much, but having just

1011
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 2: taken a very unfortunate photo while crying, if trying, like

1012
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,240
Speaker 2: I couldn't get more time in effort into getting ready

1013
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 2: for that photo, just get the what happens under like

1014
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 2: duress and sobbing and.

1015
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 3: Screaming in.

1016
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, not a good photo.

1017
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,839
Speaker 3: Straight and narrow. Everybody keep on a straight and arrow

1018
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 3: for that reason alone. Wow.

1019
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 7: Well, listen, this is true Crime tonight. If you've ever

1020
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 7: wondered what your mugshot would look like, give us a call.

1021
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 7: We're at eight at eight three one Crime. It's Talk

1022
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 7: Back Tuesday, and tonight's topics are running the gamut and

1023
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 7: are directed by you.

1024
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 3: Let's go to another Hey, True Crime teams.

1025
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 15: Ainsley calling from Canada. I have a question with relation

1026
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 15: to BK not pain restitution to his victims. Would he

1027
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 15: not be in breach of his appeal since he's now

1028
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 15: refusing to do this. I would love to hear your

1029
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 15: thoughts and looking forward to listening to you next.

1030
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, we love you, Wainsley. Yes, I mean nails it right.

1031
00:55:56,640 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 5: So yeah, Judge Hippler, Judge Hitpler even kind of, you know,

1032
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 5: implied that, like, hey, you agreed to pay a restitution

1033
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 5: when you signed your appeal. It's part of the plea group.

1034
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 5: So yeah, he would be in violation. And he's it's

1035
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 5: not going to I mean he's going to have to

1036
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 5: pay it back. He's not going to pay it back.

1037
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 5: But I mean, obviously he doesn't have you know, two

1038
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 5: hundred and seventy thousand dollars or whatever amount it is now.

1039
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 5: But yeah, he would be in violation. That's part of

1040
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 5: the agreement, is that he has to pay a restitution.

1041
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if he doesn't have the money, does it

1042
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 2: therefore then fall upon his loved ones or family members?

1043
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 2: Does it get transferred to family because that would not

1044
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 2: be fair either, Jared Jared question, Oh, Jared Garantino, amazing

1045
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 2: prosecutor is back tomorrow night. We're going to try to

1046
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 2: implement He's going to come back on Wednesdays, give her too,

1047
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 2: just to sort of answer any of our ongoing legal

1048
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 2: questions on a.

1049
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 3: Weekly basis, because he's so great and so smart. But

1050
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 3: he really likes the show and really.

1051
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 2: Wants to keep the conversation going right regularly. So that's

1052
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:01,760
Speaker 2: amazing for tomorrow.

1053
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 3: He's a former prosecutor, you know what I mean.

1054
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:05,399
Speaker 6: So he's a person to ask.

1055
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:07,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's the perfect person to ask. And I don't

1056
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 5: want to speak on a turn. So let's can we

1057
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 5: put a pin in this talk back maybe and come

1058
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 5: back to it.

1059
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:14,280
Speaker 17: Maybe.

1060
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 3: Yes, I don't know. Question I would like the answer to. Yeah,

1061
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1062
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 6: Him tomorrow.

1063
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 3: Okay, cool, let's do it. I like that, Thank you.

1064
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 6: Great, all right, let's go to it. And I don't

1065
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 6: know if was it me? Did you hear like club

1066
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 6: music in the background and.

1067
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 3: I want it's in my head? Is that no? But

1068
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 3: in my head?

1069
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1070
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:46,919
Speaker 6: Would you love to talk about there's always like.

1071
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 3: Spin in the tunes? She's got the DJ. What's ne.

1072
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 4: Hi'all?

1073
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 19: I've been hearing your reporting on the Melody Buzzed case

1074
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 19: and wanted to bring up a similar case. I would

1075
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 19: love to hear you guys talk about. Out of Cornelius,

1076
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 19: North Carolina, eleven year old Madelina could Cary went missing

1077
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 19: in twenty twenty two. Both her mom and stepfather failed

1078
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 19: to report her missing, and it was later found that

1079
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 19: her mom had spoken to a distant relative about trying

1080
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 19: to smuggle her away. When they searched her car, found

1081
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 19: multiple documents and passports for Madelina, she still has not found.

1082
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know about this one, you know. Mom? Oh gosh, Mom.

1083
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 5: Mom burned all of her daughter's photos and hid a

1084
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 5: bag of cash and paid a priest thousands of dollars

1085
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 5: and then fled the United States to her home country

1086
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 5: of I think Moldova and this is where that priest is.

1087
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 3: It's a very very very weird case.

1088
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 5: The mom and the dad, I want to say, they

1089
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:48,479
Speaker 5: were both arrested after she went missing because they failed

1090
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 5: the reporter missing.

1091
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 3: Oh my god.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, just like I was just talking about. So she

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Speaker 5: was missing for like two weeks before the police showed

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Speaker 5: up at the house and they were like, where's your daughter? Yeah, yeah,

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00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 5: the school I think, so, eleven year old Madelena. She

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00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 5: actually she was last seen getting off her school bus.

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00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 5: This was in Cornelius, North Carolina, as you mentioned, and

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00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 5: that was back on November twenty first, twenty twenty two,

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00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 5: and it was a full three weeks before her disappearance

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00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 5: was reported, so all the way until December fifteenth of

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00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 5: twenty twenty two, and it was actually it was reported

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00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 5: by her mother and stepfather. However, investigators say that the

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00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 5: couple had burned this eleven year old girl, Maddelena's mattress

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00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 5: as well as clothing, and they gave conflicting stories about

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00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 5: her whereabouts, which also brings to mind other.

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00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 3: So we don't know where she's No.

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00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 6: She's still missing. Out is continuing to treat it as.

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00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 5: An it's been three years. I think she would be thirteen. Now, yeah,

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00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 5: you are kidding, what a great tip. We need to

1110
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 5: talk about this, and well, let's do that. Fine, let's

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00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 5: do it. Let's do a break down this.

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01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 3: So that is terrible.

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01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 5: It's a really sad case. I thought they her photos,

1114
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 5: but I.

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01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 7: Have done photos as well. Just what I had kind

1116
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 7: of poked around at. It was her mattress, run her clothing.

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01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 3: It's really sad, you know.

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01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 2: It's so bad though, I immediately assume if it's a

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01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 2: mother involved, that she's experiencing some sort of psychotic break.

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01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 2: And when I hear a dad is involved, I assume

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01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 2: it's something sexual.

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01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 3: Isn't that weird? It's like a terrible generalization. Well, I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 3: well I don't know.

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Speaker 7: I don't think it is, you know, And I think

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01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 7: it goes with statistics or people even say, you know,

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01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 7: stereotypes exist for a reason.

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01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 3: And honestly, if we look.

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Speaker 7: At the statistics of things with mothers and with fathers,

1129
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 7: and I think that it's pretty in mine, Stephanie, it's

1130
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 7: it's to.

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01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 3: Do this, yeah, like it's my dad's.

1132
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 5: I mean, dads can have psychotic breaks to I mean Chad,

1133
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 5: of course, wasn't the dad to Tyly and JJ, but

1134
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 5: he was psychotic, right like, he's still the one lunatic, but.

1135
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 2: He's just a psychotic right like. He wasn't having a break.

1136
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 2: He just seemed like a psycho for a really long time.

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01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 5: I think there may be just psyches with those two, Yes, child, Yeah,

1138
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:19,479
Speaker 5: I need to go check on the letters from chad

1139
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 5: website again.

1140
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that was so infuriating. Let's we take an

1141
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 3: appropriate break from that. But I'm back. I can handle

1142
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 3: it now.

1143
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, let's get some some new updates on the day

1144
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 7: Bell front. I want to know what music he's into

1145
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 7: to that same example, this guy's behind bar is still

1146
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 7: claiming his innocence.

1147
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 2: The kids were found in your backyard, buried in a shallow.

1148
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 3: Grave, while you were off Gallant, while.

1149
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:47,440
Speaker 2: You were yeah in Hawaii getting married and getting your

1150
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 2: wife was getting her hair blown out, and your kids

1151
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 2: were found in a shallow grave. So don't get me started.

1152
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 2: But yeah, these talkbacks have got me. They're so great

1153
01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:00,160
Speaker 2: tonight everybody. But I'm so proud of everybody.

1154
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 7: I know you always say on the topics, you always

1155
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 7: bring the cases and listen.

1156
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 3: After the break, we're going to have more of that.

1157
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 7: We're also we have gotten a lot of information coming

1158
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 7: in and you guys have thoughts upon thoughts about the

1159
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 7: perfect neighbor, which was our last true crime and chill.

1160
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 3: Talk about get ready to get geared up, and yes exactly.

1161
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 7: And we also will be picking our next true crime

1162
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 7: and chill. We've got that and a whole lot more

1163
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 7: true crime tonight. We are talking true crime all the time.

1164
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 2: Welcome back to true Crime tonight on iHeartRadio. We're talking

1165
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:50,480
Speaker 2: true crime all the time of Steph here at the courtney.

1166
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 3: And with body Tan Adam or dancing in the house. Listen,

1167
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 3: everybody's on their feet at this point. By the way, Courtney.

1168
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 2: Armstrong is like doing this new hair thing where she's

1169
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 2: letting it go curly a little bit. We tested it

1170
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 2: out tonight. I've watched it dry. It looks so good.

1171
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 7: Yes, we all we have watched it dry together and

1172
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 7: I you know, scrunched it like people do in the

1173
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 7: curly hair videos as it dried, and it's it's kind

1174
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 7: of remarkable.

1175
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 3: It's I think.

1176
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 5: Like the PLoP method for curly hair gurlies. If you

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01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 5: want to know the PLoP method, where you put it

1178
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 5: in the t shirt and you let it dry perfectly

1179
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 5: and the curls just kind of flat shirt method.

1180
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 7: See, I'm going to have to do it for real,

1181
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 7: real next time, because this is pretty like what it

1182
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 7: did on the I'm impressed.

1183
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 3: Yea interesting curly.

1184
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 6: Do you have naturally curly hair too?

1185
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 10: No?

1186
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 3: I have what's called the Irish wave or Irish curls.

1187
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:48,920
Speaker 6: Have you heard this.

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01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 5: It's it's it's like a it's like kind of like

1189
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 5: uh not curly underneath and straight on top.

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01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 3: Does that make sense.

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01:03:56,240 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, So that's the Irish curls.

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01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 7: Because that's kind of what I have. That's what I

1193
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 7: would say I have too. But I don't know if

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01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 7: my mother had hair exactly like yours. In fact, it

1195
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 7: was even the same color, the red curly hair, and

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01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 7: so she always tried to get mine to do it,

1197
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 7: because you know, I had red hair when I was

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01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 7: a child, and I got a little bit darker as

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01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 7: I got older.

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01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 3: In you, and it just never works, never works for me.

1201
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 3: It's just it's just gross. So you put on a

1202
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 3: little hair like you put your hair in a T shirt.

1203
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 3: I get out of the shower and my hair is

1204
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 3: already dry, So that is no there's nothing needed, man,

1205
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 3: Please cry.

1206
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 7: Like the prettiest And I've looked at her for years

1207
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:44,840
Speaker 7: and years and it literally never gets old.

1208
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm so biased, That's why I do love you

1209
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 2: guys so much.

1210
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 6: So biased.

1211
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 2: But yeah, I had an unfortunate haircut that is just

1212
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 2: going to be a lifer.

1213
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:56,960
Speaker 3: I feel like it's growing, like non existent.

1214
01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 6: Growth, like we had to talk about it. Of course,

1215
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 6: the way your bangs flow like this if I had hair,

1216
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 6: If I were a woman and I had hair, I

1217
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 6: think I would do the Banks. So but the story,

1218
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 6: there's such a calloween. Next year, I will test out

1219
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 6: a wig and try with Banks.

1220
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 2: Yes, I love we can we can be twins. We

1221
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 2: can twin with the same wigs when I love it.

1222
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 2: How funny is Alicia? She goes from Atlanta Gate keep in.

1223
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 5: I love her, I said, By the way, I sent

1224
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 5: Ava the screenshot to post on the Instagram, So I

1225
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 5: don't know if he's going to do it right now, Okay,

1226
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:41,920
Speaker 5: really giving you the honest truth, pretty man, that's what.

1227
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 3: If they had comments on all those places. But you know,

1228
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 3: just know that you have.

1229
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:52,440
Speaker 5: Thin skin, and so I want to if you want

1230
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 5: to follow us on Instagram, it's at True Crime tonight's show.

1231
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we'll see, thank you, We'll see well.

1232
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:01,640
Speaker 6: You know, one of my favorite times in the week

1233
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 6: is when we do our True Crime and Chill. So

1234
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 6: we're at that time where we've gotten some comments on

1235
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 6: our last True Crime and Chill, and I wanted to

1236
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 6: cost a couple of talkbacks your Way to kind of

1237
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:16,360
Speaker 6: finish that one up, and then I think we need

1238
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 6: to figure out what our next one is going to

1239
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 6: because there's some good options out there. But I think

1240
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 6: Adam has some something cued up for us. To listen to.

1241
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 20: Michael, Hi, ladies, Sarah from Michigan. I am ten minutes

1242
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 20: away from finishing The Perfect Neighbor, and I just had

1243
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 20: to say that the detectives in the little detective room

1244
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:38,440
Speaker 20: with her when she was refusing to go to the.

1245
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 3: Jail, they are so patient.

1246
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 20: They were so patient, way more patient than I would

1247
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 20: have been.

1248
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought that I was infuriated by that. I mean,

1249
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 5: of course, yes, the detectives, Oh my god, they were great,

1250
01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:57,439
Speaker 5: they really were. But I just wanted them to throw

1251
01:06:57,480 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 5: her down on the ground and like customers natural, you.

1252
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 2: Know what I mean, them to like punch her in

1253
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 2: the throat.

1254
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 3: No, I would never condemn, like the punch in the

1255
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:14,880
Speaker 3: throat is what It was a new term for me.

1256
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:16,360
Speaker 6: But one of our.

1257
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 2: Callers called in and just said, I want to punch

1258
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 2: her in the throat. And I have giggled about that

1259
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 2: in my head more times than I should confess, like

1260
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 2: that is such a funny cartoon visual of her.

1261
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:32,200
Speaker 3: To get tased, you know, I just tasing her? What's

1262
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:32,760
Speaker 3: going on?

1263
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:35,440
Speaker 6: I mean, because the cameras were on them, so they

1264
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:37,840
Speaker 6: probably were on their best behavior, which they really were.

1265
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:39,959
Speaker 6: They have to be, but that's all I kept thinking

1266
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 6: was At the same time, I'm like, if everybody else

1267
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 6: that would have snapped her and grabbed her and pulled

1268
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 6: her out. And I can't go you.

1269
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:49,640
Speaker 7: Stepped on her for the greater good because I had

1270
01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 7: the same impulse body, I assure you, and just wanted,

1271
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:56,520
Speaker 7: you know, the same rage. But it really is for

1272
01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 7: the greater good. Now it's not called into question. And

1273
01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 7: then there was these so they acted so appropriately and

1274
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:08,080
Speaker 7: to our talk back person, yes, way.

1275
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 3: More patiently than I could have imagined that, Oh.

1276
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, because I was like they were just by the way,

1277
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 5: That's how I would be. Nope, I'm not going no,

1278
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:16,080
Speaker 5: I'm not.

1279
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 6: I probly would have the same reactions.

1280
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 3: And cross your legs, criss cross apple sauce.

1281
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:32,120
Speaker 6: You got drag me out of here.

1282
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 3: Pants like I need some shoes. Yeah, that's the worst.

1283
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:38,599
Speaker 2: Next there is having like my yoga pants and company socks.

1284
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 6: The one other thing. We'll move on past that documentary.

1285
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:44,200
Speaker 6: But the other thing that stood out to me was, boy,

1286
01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:45,800
Speaker 6: she lost a lot of weight when you saw her

1287
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:48,720
Speaker 6: come into the trial later on, Like, clearly she was

1288
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 6: not happy with the food in prison, so she probably

1289
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:53,400
Speaker 6: sent a lot of dishes back like this is not

1290
01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:55,120
Speaker 6: what I wanted. So she strikes well, and.

1291
01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 3: Now she wants to sue the family of her victim.

1292
01:08:58,320 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 4: Is that right?

1293
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:01,839
Speaker 3: Did I hear that right? Or is this like just gossip?

1294
01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:05,320
Speaker 6: I haven't heard that everyone wants to sue them?

1295
01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 3: Do we know what I have?

1296
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:13,040
Speaker 2: She's completely indignant one of those things. If that's the case,

1297
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:16,120
Speaker 2: then that just again shows to a lack of accountability.

1298
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 2: And can you imagine how indignant she's you know, she's

1299
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 2: had her name ruined or she's going to now sue

1300
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 2: the person who's lost their life in their family.

1301
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:29,120
Speaker 3: Totally makes sense.

1302
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 6: Unbelievable, all right, Who wants to hear some of the

1303
01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:36,320
Speaker 6: options that our listeners have thrown out as to what

1304
01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 6: they think our next true crime and Chill should be.

1305
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:42,800
Speaker 6: All right, so Adam is going to play.

1306
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:44,800
Speaker 3: So let's see if we have it.

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Speaker 6: Okay, let's go with it.

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01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 3: I always agree with body.

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01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:54,160
Speaker 4: Hey, y'all step from Bama. So y'all are talking about

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01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:56,960
Speaker 4: trying to find a documentary her true crime and chill

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01:09:57,040 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 4: that wouldn't be so infuriating like the person neighborhood, And

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01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 4: oh boy, was it infuriating and just heartbreaking. Anyways, Paramount

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01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:09,760
Speaker 4: Plus came out with one called Don't Date Brandon, and

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01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 4: oh my gosh, although at times you're gonna go what

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01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:14,599
Speaker 4: is wrong with people in this world? How can people

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01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 4: be so delusional? It's a good one. I think y'all

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01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:18,479
Speaker 4: like it.

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01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 3: Great. Joyce, I've heard that was a good one too.

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01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 3: I haven't that I'm interested.

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Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, a little bit about it. It's a parallel

1321
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 6: plus docuseries Don't Date Brandon exposes over twenty years of

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01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:37,759
Speaker 6: alleged manipulation, harassment, and violence by Washington native Brandon Johnson,

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01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:41,559
Speaker 6: who faced more than seventeen restraining orders from six women

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01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 6: since nineteen ninety seven Wow his former wives there are

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01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:48,320
Speaker 6: two of them that are listed here, and endured years

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01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:52,759
Speaker 6: of threats, stalking, and emotional abuse before securing protective orders

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01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:56,880
Speaker 6: and later launching the twenty twenty podcast ex Wives Undercover

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01:10:57,160 --> 01:11:00,120
Speaker 6: to warn others. So it's just a little taste of it.

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01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 2: Takes a galley of women, right, Like, isn't that like

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01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 2: the truth?

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01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:09,639
Speaker 3: Like, I'm so on board. That sounds so great. I feel.

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01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:13,559
Speaker 2: This was the more light version of that with Cameron

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01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:18,280
Speaker 2: Diaz and Brooklyn Decker and then who's the other actress?

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Speaker 3: Saw that on a plane?

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01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:28,760
Speaker 7: It was It's like a total plane Yeah.

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01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:29,320
Speaker 3: Was she in it too? I feel like, who is

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01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:30,120
Speaker 3: the actress?

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01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 2: Okay, play with me. We're doing quick charades, mental charades.

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01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:38,640
Speaker 2: She's married to Judd Apatah. He's a comedian. She's like

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01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:39,440
Speaker 2: a funny.

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01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 3: Actress from yes exactly.

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01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:46,080
Speaker 2: So it's her, I think, and Cameron Diaz and Brooklyn

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01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 2: Decker and they all realize that they've been they've been

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01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:51,479
Speaker 2: done dirty by the same man, the other woman.

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01:11:51,920 --> 01:12:01,439
Speaker 3: The other woman tomatoes and what do they do.

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01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:04,759
Speaker 6: On a plane?

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01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 3: Then it's a great plane romp of a movie.

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01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:11,080
Speaker 2: Silliness, but the spirit of it is you know, once

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01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:14,280
Speaker 2: the women start realizing, they don't turn on each other. No, no,

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01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:18,759
Speaker 2: they've been together and then they became like lifetime friends.

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01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:21,559
Speaker 2: That's how we should be. Kate Upton is in it. Oh,

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01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 2: Kate was beautiful, sports illustrated.

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Speaker 9: I got.

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01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 2: I have never seen it like we look like Kate Upton,

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01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:34,479
Speaker 2: Cameron Diaz and who's the let.

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01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 3: It be so Leslie Man. Yeah, there we go. Fantasy

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01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:42,519
Speaker 3: so fun.

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Speaker 6: Okay, I might add that to my list. All right, well, body,

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Speaker 6: I heard you say you have nothing to add to this, but.

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Speaker 3: I've never seen the movie.

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01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:50,240
Speaker 6: No no, I was going to say, I bet you'll

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01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:53,840
Speaker 6: have something to add to this next talk, because this

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01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:56,760
Speaker 6: is the next suggestion of what we should watch. And

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01:12:57,160 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 6: you mentioned this case before, and I don't know a

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01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:01,360
Speaker 6: lot about this, so we're going to dig into this one.

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Speaker 6: Let's go forward.

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Speaker 21: Hey, ladies, I just started watching Aileen Queen of the

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01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 21: serial Killers. I don't know why, but I'm so much

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01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:16,599
Speaker 21: more afraid of female serial killers. I think because I'm

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01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:19,360
Speaker 21: always trying to you know, I was always taught to

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01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:24,720
Speaker 21: look at females for safety if I ever got into trouble. So, yeah,

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01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:27,479
Speaker 21: this is a haunting show. And maybe an idea for

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01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 21: the next true crime and show. Thanks Bye.

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01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:33,639
Speaker 3: She might be right about that. It's it's been calling

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01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:34,080
Speaker 3: my name.

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01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:36,519
Speaker 6: Talk to me about this one, because I don't know

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01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:38,640
Speaker 6: enough about it and I'm embarrassed. I told Ava this.

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01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:40,719
Speaker 6: I saw a quick ad for it, and I walked

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01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:42,479
Speaker 6: by and I saw the photo and I saw it

1380
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 6: said Alien, and I saw Sigourney Weaver. So like, OK,

1381
01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 6: so you've seen.

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01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:48,559
Speaker 3: The movie Monster with Charlie's their own.

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01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:52,519
Speaker 6: Oh, this is all based on that her. We'll fill

1384
01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:54,840
Speaker 6: everyone else in who might not be aware so they can.

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01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:59,080
Speaker 5: Aileen Warnos is the queen of the serial killers. That's

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01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:02,960
Speaker 5: the name of the document Alien Worenos serial Killers.

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Speaker 3: And she was convict.

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01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 5: She was a street girl, a sweet you know woman,

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01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:12,000
Speaker 5: and she was picking up john's and killing them when

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01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:14,360
Speaker 5: she claims that it was in self defense, that they

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01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:18,680
Speaker 5: were you know, not paying her or you know, r

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01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:24,799
Speaker 5: ing her, raping her, and she would kill in self defense.

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01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:30,639
Speaker 5: And she got caught. She you know, it's a long story,

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01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:34,360
Speaker 5: but she got caught. She was sentenced to death, and

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01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:38,080
Speaker 5: right before she died, she recanted and she said that

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01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:42,080
Speaker 5: she just killed but then she changed. Then she went

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01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:44,160
Speaker 5: back and said no, it wasn't self. She went back

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01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:46,600
Speaker 5: and forth, so it's hard to know what's real and

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01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:48,880
Speaker 5: what's not. But there was a lot of things that

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01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:53,280
Speaker 5: happened in her investigation and how you know, she was

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01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:55,679
Speaker 5: handled by the police department and whatnot, and the legal

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01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 5: system too that really kind of put a lot of

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01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 5: doubts on I don't want to say her guilt, because

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01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:06,639
Speaker 5: she was guilty, but why she did it.

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01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 2: Well, she felt like she was a bit of a vigilante, right,

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01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:11,960
Speaker 2: like she was in some weird way cleaning up.

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01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:15,759
Speaker 3: The streets for a little bit. Yeah, really treating.

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01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:18,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a really tragic story. She had a really,

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01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 5: really bad life. That doesn't give her an excuse to

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01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 5: just to go out there and kill the girle. Like please,

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01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:26,920
Speaker 5: don't think you know I'm saying that, But she had

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01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 5: a really, really terrible life. And the man, one of

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01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:34,879
Speaker 5: the first men she killed, was convicted of sexual assault

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01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 5: in years prior, but it was never brought up in

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01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:39,800
Speaker 5: court or when it was, it was shot down. So

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01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 5: there are things that kind of point in the direction

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01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:45,200
Speaker 5: of that she could have been self defending herself, you know,

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01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:46,800
Speaker 5: and that she killed seven men.

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01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:49,400
Speaker 3: I think it is I always thought.

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01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:51,559
Speaker 2: She was killing like on behalf of all women who

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01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:54,960
Speaker 2: have been scorned in this world. Maybe you know, you know,

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01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:57,640
Speaker 2: she was sort of the in her you know, her

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01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 2: psychotic mind. I mean, obviously, you're a serial killer, so

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01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:05,400
Speaker 2: you're not emotionally dealing in the same set of cards, right,

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01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:09,360
Speaker 2: But in her twisted head, it was almost on behalf

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01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:12,439
Speaker 2: of all women who have been you know, lied to,

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01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:15,760
Speaker 2: a beaten, abused. I'm not going to stand for it.

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01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:19,000
Speaker 2: And I'm surrounded by the worst of the worst of them.

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01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:21,960
Speaker 2: Because she was a sex worker and was being mistreated

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01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:24,960
Speaker 2: so regularly, it does not make her a hero by

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01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 2: any means. And that's I think the interesting piece probably

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01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:29,639
Speaker 2: about this doc.

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01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:33,280
Speaker 5: Well the interesting for me watching an Indian I watched

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01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:36,000
Speaker 5: it last weekend and we both loved it. You already

1435
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:40,880
Speaker 5: watched this. Oh wait wait, okay, so it's like an hour.

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01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:42,439
Speaker 5: It's like a short one again. It's like one of

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01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:46,360
Speaker 5: those shortness okay, and a man, it was just when

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01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:48,719
Speaker 5: it was over, I was like, is that it? Oh no, yeah,

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01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:49,880
Speaker 5: it was really really good.

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01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:50,799
Speaker 6: Okay.

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01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:53,240
Speaker 5: But the good thing, the interesting thing about this is

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01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:55,479
Speaker 5: it gets into those things that I was talking about,

1443
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:58,000
Speaker 5: like the injustice kind of situation that was happening to

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01:16:58,120 --> 01:17:00,800
Speaker 5: her when her trial was happening. And those are really

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01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:05,240
Speaker 5: interesting pieces. And the whole documentary is archival footage. It's fantastic.

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01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is extremely rare for a woman to be

1447
01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:11,559
Speaker 2: a serial killer, right, I name on one hand, only

1448
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:13,479
Speaker 2: a few of them. There was that other one in

1449
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:16,519
Speaker 2: Florida that was like going across country killing. That's a

1450
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 2: good one too. We'll talk about that a different day.

1451
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:23,240
Speaker 2: But she's an interesting case in general because it does

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01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:26,599
Speaker 2: check on a lot of those boxes of just it's

1453
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 2: so rare for a woman to be accused.

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01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:29,880
Speaker 3: Of this much.

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01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:33,680
Speaker 2: And I agree with the caller. You know, we look

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01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:36,519
Speaker 2: to women to keep us safe in the world. That's

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01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:39,840
Speaker 2: why the Maxwell think gets me so crazy because again,

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01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:45,679
Speaker 2: young girls looking at another sophisticated woman for safety, and

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01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:49,000
Speaker 2: you know, that's so criminal in my mind. And I

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01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:51,479
Speaker 2: agree that's what makes her particularly haunting.

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01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:55,280
Speaker 3: Her story is her whole story is haunting.

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01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:57,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a really good talk back, And that was

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01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:59,000
Speaker 5: the one I was going to suggest, be this don't

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01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:01,400
Speaker 5: behind speak of too, so I don't know.

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01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:01,639
Speaker 4: Good.

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01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:04,200
Speaker 6: How about we think about it during the break and

1467
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:06,639
Speaker 6: when we come back we'll decide and tell the audience

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01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:11,280
Speaker 6: which one they should watch for our Oh, stick around.

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01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:12,799
Speaker 3: For that, stick around for that answer.

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01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:15,720
Speaker 5: And we're going to close out with more of your talkbacks,

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01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:19,240
Speaker 5: your best theories, your funniest takes, and final thoughts of

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01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:19,599
Speaker 5: the night.

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Speaker 3: Hearing your true Crime tonight.

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01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:34,400
Speaker 2: Welcome back to True Crime Tonight on iHeartRadio. We're talking

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01:18:34,439 --> 01:18:38,479
Speaker 2: true crime all the time. Already entering the last segment.

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01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:41,680
Speaker 2: How does this happen? I'm Steph here with Courtney and

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01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:45,400
Speaker 2: Body and the boys, and listen, big moment we're going

1478
01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:46,960
Speaker 2: to We're going to.

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01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:49,880
Speaker 3: Pick the big true crime and chill.

1480
01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 2: Next next documentary or yeah, next documentary.

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01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:54,679
Speaker 11: Anyway.

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01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:56,920
Speaker 3: I did not participate in this vote because I think

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01:18:56,960 --> 01:18:57,639
Speaker 3: it's a win win.

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01:18:58,240 --> 01:18:59,600
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah.

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01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:02,560
Speaker 2: I also watch the Martha Stewart one also when you

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01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:05,360
Speaker 2: have an extra free time, because I'm.

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01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:07,719
Speaker 3: Just I think it will be worth discussing at some point.

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01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:10,840
Speaker 3: I agree, I agree totally to watch it. So who's

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01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:11,479
Speaker 3: gonna announce it?

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01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:11,880
Speaker 6: Taha?

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01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:13,200
Speaker 3: Why don't you take the honors?

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01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:13,479
Speaker 5: Oh?

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01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:14,479
Speaker 3: What do you want to do?

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01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:16,800
Speaker 6: I want you to do it. You do it, I'll

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01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:18,559
Speaker 6: do the ladies and gentlemen.

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01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:23,760
Speaker 5: Okay, we're gonna We're gonna go with the Aleen Warnos documentary.

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01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:24,799
Speaker 3: It's Alien.

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01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:29,280
Speaker 5: It's called Alien, Queen of the Serial Killers, and it's

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01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:32,400
Speaker 5: on Netflix. It's about an hour and forty five minutes.

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Speaker 5: I looked it up because I said it was about

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01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:35,599
Speaker 5: an hour and a half, but I was wrong. It's

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01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:38,559
Speaker 5: an hour and forty five minutes. And it mainly detays.

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01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:43,280
Speaker 5: It's mainly consistent of this archival footage from her arrest

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01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:49,080
Speaker 5: and surveillance and you know, court testimony, news reports and

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01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:51,439
Speaker 5: things like that. It's very well done. It's very good,

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01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:53,960
Speaker 5: and it's kind of short. It's not gonna take up

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01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:57,400
Speaker 5: your whole week, and we're gonna we're gonna go with

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01:19:57,520 --> 01:19:58,400
Speaker 5: a whole.

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01:19:58,160 --> 01:20:01,240
Speaker 3: Theme with it. So we're to talk about it. But

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01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:03,639
Speaker 3: I still want to watch the Brandon one that don't

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01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:04,599
Speaker 3: date Brandon, So.

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01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:08,160
Speaker 6: I'm going to watch that one. And so I've got

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01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:10,559
Speaker 6: a lot of Now my week is filled already with

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01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:13,720
Speaker 6: documentaries to watch. But it's an enjoyable one because these

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01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:16,800
Speaker 6: are all good ones to choose from, for sure. All Right, Well,

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01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:19,559
Speaker 6: I love it. I'm excited about that one, and I too.

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01:20:20,160 --> 01:20:22,479
Speaker 6: I'm excited because I think we have more talk backs

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01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:23,400
Speaker 6: that we can still get to.

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01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:25,080
Speaker 3: Oh, let's go, let's go.

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01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:26,080
Speaker 6: Yeah.

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01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:30,519
Speaker 22: Hello everyone, this is Stephanie from Washington State. I just

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01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:35,519
Speaker 22: wanted to comment on the Tri State crematorium story.

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01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:38,879
Speaker 3: There is an amazing podcast called.

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01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:41,599
Speaker 22: Noble and it is about the entire family and everything

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01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:45,000
Speaker 22: that happened, and it is it is very well done.

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Speaker 22: I highly recommend Thank You, Love Everything you guys do.

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01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:54,640
Speaker 6: That's a good one. Another one we should watch and

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01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:57,519
Speaker 6: I'm around that one where that was that Tyler Stone

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01:20:57,520 --> 01:21:01,760
Speaker 6: who came on and talked about his personal experience with what.

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Speaker 3: A great suggestion.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean because I wanted. I talked to Tyler

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01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:08,479
Speaker 5: a little bit after the show up on Instagram. He's

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01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:12,559
Speaker 5: really cool. But it's it's very interesting. And this the

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01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:16,160
Speaker 5: reason I found it so interesting was this, uh what

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Speaker 5: was it again?

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01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:21,559
Speaker 3: That they mercury mercury thank you? I couldn't remember. I

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01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:24,479
Speaker 3: never heard of this before, no idea that this was

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Speaker 3: an issue.

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Speaker 5: But it's a common thing in crematoriums that you know,

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01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:33,240
Speaker 5: this is something that happens. So yeah, I'm definitely down

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01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:35,040
Speaker 5: to watch that because that was a really interesting story

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Speaker 5: from Tyler.

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Speaker 6: I found that super fascinating. I liked him a lot

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01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:39,880
Speaker 6: to side note like it was nice.

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Speaker 3: I liked him too, Yeah, I liked him too.

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01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:46,760
Speaker 6: And right, but now when I hear the music, I

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01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:47,559
Speaker 6: dance even harder.

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01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:51,040
Speaker 3: I'm like, now I relate to right right, right, right right.

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Speaker 6: But he's one of he was great cool. All right, Well,

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01:21:55,160 --> 01:21:56,960
Speaker 6: I think we can do another talk pack if you

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01:21:57,160 --> 01:21:58,000
Speaker 6: feel up to it.

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01:21:58,120 --> 01:21:58,880
Speaker 3: Let's do it.

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Speaker 17: This is Marta from Flinta and thank you so much

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01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:09,040
Speaker 17: for playing my talk vacum made my day. I just

1555
01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:12,200
Speaker 17: listened to that color that talked about this compression back,

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01:22:12,280 --> 01:22:15,400
Speaker 17: so I remember I have those that you roll and

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01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:20,040
Speaker 17: then you zip, so you wouldn't need that vacuum. Divine love,

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01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:21,200
Speaker 17: love your show.

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01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:22,960
Speaker 4: And love that you play my talk back.

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01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:33,840
Speaker 3: And Martha by you, you're so cheerful. Yeah, I know

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01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:36,000
Speaker 3: she is. She's always so sweet when she calls.

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Speaker 5: She's she's loft us a couple of talkbacks now, and anyway,

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Speaker 5: thank you Marta. And I didn't know they made the

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01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:44,439
Speaker 5: roll up ones. That's something I'm definitely gonna have to

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Speaker 5: look at.

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01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:47,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then the air just pushes out. That makes

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01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:48,439
Speaker 3: so much sense.

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01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:51,439
Speaker 5: Absolutely just squeeze their out basically right by the roll.

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Speaker 5: The process of rolling it right.

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Speaker 3: Doing that, it's shocking. I don't know why I don't

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01:22:56,960 --> 01:22:58,280
Speaker 3: do that. I don't either.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I pack a lot because I do

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01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:03,160
Speaker 6: that little method where you fold everything and roll it

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01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:05,120
Speaker 6: really really tiny. I think there was a flight attendant

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Speaker 6: that showed you how it do it. So I don't

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01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:10,360
Speaker 6: feel like I need a compression bag. But I don't know.

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01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:12,120
Speaker 3: Maybe unless you do outfits.

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01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:16,679
Speaker 2: If you do complete outfits, meaning top to bottom, socks,

1579
01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:21,240
Speaker 2: lufter garments, shirt, everything, head to toe like day one,

1580
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:24,800
Speaker 2: and you put that in its own special bag. Again,

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01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:28,400
Speaker 2: speak to the neurotic one in the room. That kind

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01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:31,280
Speaker 2: of can suffice unless you start shaking it up because.

1583
01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:32,719
Speaker 3: Of the weather and then all your bags are open

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01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 3: and it's a mess. But if you are able to

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01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:37,120
Speaker 3: just like stick to the.

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01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:40,200
Speaker 2: Plan, you know, I have, you know, these jeans with

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01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:43,639
Speaker 2: this T shirt whatever the thing is this evening gown?

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01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:46,360
Speaker 2: Dare I say yes, Courtney jump in with that curly

1589
01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:48,200
Speaker 2: Yeah it is.

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Speaker 7: It's such a stress saver when you're actually on vay case.

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01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:54,960
Speaker 7: And I will do kind of a dual, a combo

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01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:57,719
Speaker 7: of what you're saying, so Stephanie, I'll lay out the outfit.

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01:23:58,160 --> 01:24:01,240
Speaker 7: So yeah, you know, everything from them underpants to the

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Speaker 7: card again or whatever, and it's all rolled up and

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01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:08,760
Speaker 7: then boop, the thought is done. So I pick the

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01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:11,599
Speaker 7: outfits and I also roll them up like you're talking

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Speaker 7: about taha.

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Speaker 3: But I feel like you guys are checkers.

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Speaker 7: I over the years have evolved to be an unbelievably

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Speaker 7: lean packer.

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Speaker 6: No, I could say that I'm an opposite. Oh, I'm yeah,

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01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:28,320
Speaker 6: like underpacking.

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01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:30,800
Speaker 2: I practically will wear the clothes in my back at

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01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 2: this point. Yes, I hate luggage and losing things so desperately,

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01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:38,120
Speaker 2: and I'm such an absent minded person when I travel

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01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:40,800
Speaker 2: that if it's not tied down.

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01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:43,240
Speaker 3: And by the way, we always have like our vacation, we're.

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01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:45,840
Speaker 2: Going to try out new things. And you know who's

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01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:48,240
Speaker 2: these vacations. Sometimes it's a work trip where we go

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01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:51,080
Speaker 2: to some you know, we end up wearing the exact

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01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:52,599
Speaker 2: same thing that we would wear at home.

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01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:53,280
Speaker 6: So if we.

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01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:56,640
Speaker 2: Overthink it, I just packed the same three things that

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01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:59,760
Speaker 2: I love to wear, by four favorite things and try

1615
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 2: to keep it's simple. And if I'm out of luck,

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01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:03,639
Speaker 2: I'll find myself a TJ Max.

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01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:06,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm in where people who do that because I

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01:25:06,280 --> 01:25:09,040
Speaker 6: always and at the end of a trip, I'm like,

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01:25:09,080 --> 01:25:11,080
Speaker 6: I didn't even why did I bring these extra things?

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01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:14,200
Speaker 6: I had, all these additional I always assume like something's

1621
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:15,640
Speaker 6: going to come up. What if they invite me to

1622
01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:17,360
Speaker 6: the ball at the last minute, like I don't.

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01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:21,320
Speaker 2: Know, ball shopping, We'll have to go get a talks

1624
01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:24,400
Speaker 2: that moment, and you know gift shop, which you know

1625
01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:26,439
Speaker 2: is complicated because like you know, you who wants to

1626
01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:30,920
Speaker 2: go bathing suit shopping and any day let alone without time,

1627
01:25:31,479 --> 01:25:32,519
Speaker 2: but you know that kind of thing.

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01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:35,280
Speaker 3: But the basics, keep it simple. We all have too

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01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:35,880
Speaker 3: much stuff.

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01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:38,720
Speaker 6: I'mat That'll be my new model. Keep it simple, Keep

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01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:40,960
Speaker 6: it simple, all right? Do we have a simple talk bock?

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01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:41,760
Speaker 6: How about that? Yes?

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01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:46,200
Speaker 23: Yes, hi, ladies, this is Sarah from Michigan. You guys

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01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:49,479
Speaker 23: always have such great experts on doront O Fear and

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01:25:50,040 --> 01:25:52,599
Speaker 23: Joseph Scott Morgan, and I was just thinking that maybe

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01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:56,080
Speaker 23: you could add a law enforcement expert to the rotation

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01:25:56,240 --> 01:25:58,439
Speaker 23: that could come on and answer all of our questions

1638
01:25:58,479 --> 01:26:01,559
Speaker 23: about their rules and insights into these cases.

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01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:05,800
Speaker 6: That's a great I love that idea. That's a great one.

1640
01:26:05,960 --> 01:26:08,599
Speaker 6: Does Stephanie, you always seem to have a rolodex of people.

1641
01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:09,639
Speaker 6: Does someone come to mind.

1642
01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:13,080
Speaker 2: We're trying a little bit with our US Marshall segment, right,

1643
01:26:13,240 --> 01:26:15,680
Speaker 2: so we are leaning into that a little bit.

1644
01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:18,559
Speaker 3: We just had it sort of. He was so good.

1645
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:20,880
Speaker 3: So yes, I love that idea.

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01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:23,680
Speaker 5: I was so surprised at all the cases, like he

1647
01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:27,439
Speaker 5: was pivotal in like yeah, the DC Sniper and whatnot.

1648
01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:31,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, yet in high school, people wouldn't know a lot

1649
01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:35,400
Speaker 6: about that one yet, so they'll learn more because it's

1650
01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:39,280
Speaker 6: a new one. But but yeah, that the uh, that story,

1651
01:26:39,280 --> 01:26:41,639
Speaker 6: which our audience will get to hear at a later

1652
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:44,960
Speaker 6: date because we're saving that for a special night. He's

1653
01:26:45,000 --> 01:26:47,800
Speaker 6: fascinating and the things that he did. I'll just give

1654
01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:50,800
Speaker 6: everyone a little hint that he's almost like a real

1655
01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:53,040
Speaker 6: life twenty one drum Jump Street, Like.

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01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:56,679
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, that's right, he was undercover in high school.

1657
01:26:57,120 --> 01:26:57,479
Speaker 21: Yeah.

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01:26:57,560 --> 01:26:57,960
Speaker 3: Crazy.

1659
01:26:58,080 --> 01:27:01,240
Speaker 6: So but to that talkbacks point, like to the person

1660
01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:02,920
Speaker 6: that left to talk back, I already forgot their name.

1661
01:27:02,920 --> 01:27:05,680
Speaker 6: But I think we should have someone on, like as

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01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:08,200
Speaker 6: a regular. That could be because a lot of times

1663
01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:11,840
Speaker 6: we do have some like law enforcement type questions and

1664
01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:13,680
Speaker 6: I'd like to just hear it from their perspective.

1665
01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:18,400
Speaker 7: So even Jarrett Farantino, who again will be coming on tomorrow,

1666
01:27:18,439 --> 01:27:22,559
Speaker 7: and Steph, as you said, may may possibly be you know,

1667
01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:24,800
Speaker 7: more of a regular Wednesday thing. I mean, he has

1668
01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:29,280
Speaker 7: a great perspective as a prosecutor, and he's talked so

1669
01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:33,200
Speaker 7: much about his great relationships with defense attorneys. Obviously you

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01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 7: work with police a lot, so yeah, but definitely heard nice.

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01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:40,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, look I'm into it.

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01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:43,720
Speaker 6: Autist. Okay, well we're gonna work then, heard. I think

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01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:45,960
Speaker 6: we might have time for one more before we have

1674
01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:48,960
Speaker 6: to wrap things up, sadly to maybe cry, but playboard

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01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:49,519
Speaker 6: and more before.

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01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:53,880
Speaker 24: Hey Boddy, it's Alicia from Atlanta again, and I'm sorry

1677
01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:57,320
Speaker 24: I totally confused you about the compression bag. So you

1678
01:27:57,439 --> 01:27:59,400
Speaker 24: have them that you can get from Amazon that you

1679
01:27:59,439 --> 01:28:02,320
Speaker 24: do not need eat a vacuum board. So once you

1680
01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:06,440
Speaker 24: zip it, it sucks in the clothes as much as possible.

1681
01:28:06,520 --> 01:28:09,679
Speaker 24: So once I put them in the draws during the cruise,

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01:28:10,040 --> 01:28:12,080
Speaker 24: you just unzip them and they kind of owen up.

1683
01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:14,559
Speaker 24: So if you have compartments, you could just take your

1684
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:17,960
Speaker 24: stuff out, your socks, underwear, shirts or whatever.

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01:28:18,200 --> 01:28:19,599
Speaker 10: It's just not touching the draw.

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01:28:20,360 --> 01:28:23,400
Speaker 3: Alicia, I can't believe you were gatekeeping. Were you just

1687
01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:29,439
Speaker 3: a gatekeeper. Listen, but then what do you do when

1688
01:28:29,479 --> 01:28:31,759
Speaker 3: you have to go home? You have to where's the vacuum?

1689
01:28:31,880 --> 01:28:34,280
Speaker 3: Do we have to use a vacuum? He said, you don't?

1690
01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:37,000
Speaker 5: You just she said, you don't need the vacuum, so

1691
01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:39,240
Speaker 5: they must when you zip it, it must like suck the.

1692
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:41,040
Speaker 6: Air out or something automatic.

1693
01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:43,280
Speaker 3: I love it. Don't feel ashamed that I don't do

1694
01:28:43,320 --> 01:28:48,760
Speaker 3: this enough. It's a one way when we go. Yeah,

1695
01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:49,960
Speaker 3: it's true.

1696
01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:52,280
Speaker 6: I know if you heard it when she said that

1697
01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:54,240
Speaker 6: when you're on the cruise and unpacking.

1698
01:28:54,160 --> 01:28:55,599
Speaker 3: And I was like, nice.

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01:28:57,760 --> 01:29:00,439
Speaker 2: I have mixed feelings about cruises now and a cruise,

1700
01:29:00,479 --> 01:29:01,880
Speaker 2: but you guys are ruining it for me with all

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01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:05,559
Speaker 2: of your dark tourism talk. It's making me crazy from

1702
01:29:05,640 --> 01:29:08,160
Speaker 2: land and now we have to cover the teenager that's

1703
01:29:08,200 --> 01:29:12,400
Speaker 2: now this we should talk about that tomorrow because.

1704
01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:15,719
Speaker 3: And it talks.

1705
01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:20,080
Speaker 2: She's you know, this is a tragic thing. And again,

1706
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:23,320
Speaker 2: good luck at an answers on sovereign waters. We'd love

1707
01:29:23,360 --> 01:29:25,800
Speaker 2: to talk about sovereign things. I love a cruise, by

1708
01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:27,760
Speaker 2: the way, and have been on several. I am the

1709
01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:31,280
Speaker 2: last man standing on a cruise means rest assured there

1710
01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:34,600
Speaker 2: is no Sunday on the deck that is missed by me.

1711
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:38,520
Speaker 3: I have the ice cream platters. I'm going for a seconds.

1712
01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:38,799
Speaker 6: At the buffet.

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01:29:39,120 --> 01:29:43,519
Speaker 7: I will dance off till the game comes up. Yes,

1714
01:29:43,640 --> 01:29:46,360
Speaker 7: you right, I'm there with them. I'm doing the area

1715
01:29:46,760 --> 01:29:47,960
Speaker 7: and we're dictionary.

1716
01:29:48,680 --> 01:29:50,960
Speaker 2: What is it when we go under the conga?

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01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:52,439
Speaker 18: Yeah?

1718
01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:57,280
Speaker 3: Can't you feel in center at the captain's table? Yeah,

1719
01:29:57,439 --> 01:29:59,400
Speaker 3: I am, I am. It is fun.

1720
01:30:00,040 --> 01:30:02,840
Speaker 2: However, if there is an accident, first of all, COVID

1721
01:30:02,840 --> 01:30:03,559
Speaker 2: crushed it, right.

1722
01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:07,080
Speaker 3: Can you imagine being trapped? But moving on? It's like

1723
01:30:07,160 --> 01:30:09,439
Speaker 3: all of these terrible thoughts that you guys are.

1724
01:30:09,320 --> 01:30:12,080
Speaker 2: Filling in my head about vacations, and like you can't

1725
01:30:12,120 --> 01:30:15,200
Speaker 2: really get answers necessarily because of the jurisdiction.

1726
01:30:15,400 --> 01:30:20,120
Speaker 3: Probably keep promise you go a body, and then I'm

1727
01:30:20,120 --> 01:30:20,679
Speaker 3: gonna say.

1728
01:30:20,640 --> 01:30:23,240
Speaker 5: I promise if something happens to you on a cruise,

1729
01:30:23,360 --> 01:30:25,439
Speaker 5: I will be like you with the epscene.

1730
01:30:25,479 --> 01:30:27,880
Speaker 3: I'm dog without it with the phone. I'm not gonna stop.

1731
01:30:28,439 --> 01:30:31,639
Speaker 2: You'll miss me. You'll notice if I fall over. If

1732
01:30:31,680 --> 01:30:35,639
Speaker 2: I fall overboard accidentally, I am klutzy. You'll notice right away,

1733
01:30:35,720 --> 01:30:38,080
Speaker 2: so they have time to come get me. They don't

1734
01:30:38,120 --> 01:30:40,679
Speaker 2: just like take off and leave me out there, because

1735
01:30:40,720 --> 01:30:42,400
Speaker 2: those are the types of things that happen.

1736
01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:45,320
Speaker 3: But I'm bump, bump, bump. I hear that music now,

1737
01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:47,400
Speaker 3: and I'm starting to get excited for the cruise.

1738
01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:48,360
Speaker 7: I know, I want.

1739
01:30:50,120 --> 01:30:54,439
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I can hear it.

1740
01:30:54,680 --> 01:30:55,479
Speaker 6: We're about to leave.

1741
01:30:58,200 --> 01:30:58,760
Speaker 19: I like it.

1742
01:30:58,880 --> 01:30:59,479
Speaker 9: I like it.

1743
01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:02,520
Speaker 7: I will I'm one of the most epic epic cruises.

1744
01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:05,160
Speaker 7: This was years ago. It was my mom is one

1745
01:31:05,200 --> 01:31:10,200
Speaker 7: of seven kids, and they were all born within ten years, right,

1746
01:31:10,280 --> 01:31:12,880
Speaker 7: and so they have a bunch of kids who are

1747
01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:13,599
Speaker 7: all my cousins.

1748
01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:14,679
Speaker 3: I got twelve cousins.

1749
01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:19,519
Speaker 7: Anyway, there was a gigantic amount of McKenna's is my

1750
01:31:20,680 --> 01:31:23,640
Speaker 7: we just sounds like a good It was so it

1751
01:31:23,880 --> 01:31:29,600
Speaker 7: was so wildly fun and actually very quickly. I was

1752
01:31:29,680 --> 01:31:32,960
Speaker 7: nineteen at the time, and I had gotten locked No,

1753
01:31:33,000 --> 01:31:35,200
Speaker 7: I didn't get happened to get locked down my room.

1754
01:31:35,240 --> 01:31:37,080
Speaker 7: My mother locked me out of the room I was

1755
01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:41,720
Speaker 7: sharing Betty. She wanted the room to herself, so I

1756
01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:43,320
Speaker 7: had knocking nowhere to go.

1757
01:31:43,360 --> 01:31:44,040
Speaker 3: I'm nineteen.

1758
01:31:44,240 --> 01:31:47,800
Speaker 7: I go to sleep in the nineteen year old ware

1759
01:31:47,840 --> 01:31:50,360
Speaker 7: that I was wearing to the club on the boat,

1760
01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:54,120
Speaker 7: go to sleep in the public library on the boat,

1761
01:31:54,479 --> 01:31:57,800
Speaker 7: wake up at five thirty am and walk through breakfast,

1762
01:31:57,880 --> 01:32:00,400
Speaker 7: at which point I see my grandma and Grandma Lizzie.

1763
01:32:00,520 --> 01:32:03,000
Speaker 3: And she says, oh, smart girl, up nice and.

1764
01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:09,160
Speaker 7: Early more or less, and had that you call it early, Grandma,

1765
01:32:09,280 --> 01:32:12,519
Speaker 7: we call it the walk of shrite. So I walk

1766
01:32:12,560 --> 01:32:14,760
Speaker 7: ashamed into my grandma and we sat down, had a

1767
01:32:14,840 --> 01:32:18,559
Speaker 7: nice cup of tea. But shout out to my cousin James,

1768
01:32:18,600 --> 01:32:21,960
Speaker 7: who was on that cruise and was a little boy,

1769
01:32:22,120 --> 01:32:25,800
Speaker 7: I think, having his first taste of alcohol at the time,

1770
01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:28,880
Speaker 7: and he is I believe I have his rank right.

1771
01:32:28,960 --> 01:32:33,920
Speaker 7: He is a lieutenant colonel in the Marines, and he

1772
01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:37,480
Speaker 7: is a hero and fabulous. He is also a fireman

1773
01:32:37,800 --> 01:32:42,800
Speaker 7: and an extraordinary dad and husband anyway, just overall, and

1774
01:32:42,840 --> 01:32:44,880
Speaker 7: he's a good time in addition to all of his

1775
01:32:45,479 --> 01:32:48,280
Speaker 7: military accolades and happy Veterans.

1776
01:32:48,680 --> 01:32:51,160
Speaker 5: Happy Veterans Day, cousin James, and I want to give

1777
01:32:51,200 --> 01:32:55,040
Speaker 5: a shout out to my dad, Tommy. He was the

1778
01:32:55,360 --> 01:32:58,759
Speaker 5: he was in the Air Force. He was in Vietnam

1779
01:32:59,439 --> 01:33:02,599
Speaker 5: and then his dad, my grandfather, was at Pearl Harbor.

1780
01:33:02,760 --> 01:33:06,639
Speaker 3: He was as well. He survived for Harbor, only later

1781
01:33:06,720 --> 01:33:10,920
Speaker 3: to die of tuberculosis, which he contracted in the course

1782
01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:13,400
Speaker 3: of the war in the South Pacific come zone.

1783
01:33:14,000 --> 01:33:14,280
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1784
01:33:14,560 --> 01:33:14,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1785
01:33:15,280 --> 01:33:17,519
Speaker 5: My grandfather's a World War two vetter and he passed

1786
01:33:17,520 --> 01:33:19,840
Speaker 5: away as a result of the war, and then my

1787
01:33:19,920 --> 01:33:21,599
Speaker 5: dad was in Vietnam.

1788
01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:24,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mind, Charles Leidecker.

1789
01:33:24,439 --> 01:33:27,280
Speaker 2: May he rest in peace, but he served us well,

1790
01:33:27,560 --> 01:33:29,160
Speaker 2: as did all of my uncles. I come from a

1791
01:33:29,200 --> 01:33:33,680
Speaker 2: long line now too. Yeah, so hats off. You know,

1792
01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:36,599
Speaker 2: we celebrate you today and every day, and if anybody

1793
01:33:36,720 --> 01:33:39,880
Speaker 2: knows or has suggestions of how we can even better

1794
01:33:39,920 --> 01:33:43,360
Speaker 2: support our troops, we would love to hear and are

1795
01:33:43,439 --> 01:33:46,960
Speaker 2: open to all the tips and tricks and listen, there's

1796
01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:50,600
Speaker 2: a lot to cover, so please stick with us.

1797
01:33:50,640 --> 01:33:51,880
Speaker 3: Tomorrow we will be back.

1798
01:33:51,920 --> 01:33:56,040
Speaker 2: We have Jarrett Farantino with us, our prosecutor and legal

1799
01:33:56,080 --> 01:34:00,320
Speaker 2: extraordinaiy answering any of your talkbacks and questions from the week.

1800
01:34:01,080 --> 01:34:02,440
Speaker 3: More on the Melody.

1801
01:34:02,479 --> 01:34:05,280
Speaker 2: Case as well, so we'll be following that and new

1802
01:34:05,320 --> 01:34:07,719
Speaker 2: developments for David the pop Star.

1803
01:34:08,280 --> 01:34:09,599
Speaker 3: Not all bad, this.

1804
01:34:09,560 --> 01:34:12,719
Speaker 2: Is true crime. Tonight, have a wonderful night, stay safe.

1805
01:34:12,840 --> 01:34:13,879
Speaker 2: We'll talk to you tomorrow.