1 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for listening to the best of Cavino and 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: Rich podcast. 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch us live every day. 4 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: From five to seven pm Eastern two to four pacifics 5 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. 6 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 3: Find your local station for Devino and Rich at Fox 7 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 3: Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every day. 8 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 2: On the iHeartRadio app my searching FSR. 9 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 3: Happy Labor Day and Monday to you. They don't do 10 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 3: chants of Monday, but I feel like we could chant 11 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 3: foot boo. I don't care. It's technically week one in 12 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 3: the NFL, right, we got a game this week like 13 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 3: it is week one. We are just wrapping up Week 14 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 3: one of the college football season. Hit Manty up at 15 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 3: Monty Bolanos. You got me at Dan Byer on Fox 16 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 3: Cavino and Rich. We're in for Dan Patrick earlier today. 17 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 3: That's why we are in today. Jason Stewart is our 18 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 3: executive producer. Hello Jason, and Chris Profeder technical producer. What up, Chris, 19 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 3: Let's get a roll in on this Monday because I 20 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 3: just came from America's dairy Land, spent the last week 21 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 3: in my home state of Wisconsin, and they were head 22 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 3: over heels, head over heels when the news broke on 23 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 3: Thursday that Micah Parsons was going to be a member 24 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 3: of the Green and Gold being traded by the Packers 25 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 3: to the Dallas Cowboys. And now it's a whole new 26 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 3: world for the Green Bay Packers as they have an 27 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 3: enormous different and enormous difference maker on that side of 28 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 3: the football to compliment what Jordan Love and the offense 29 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 3: are going to try to do. Bonifid superstar Michah Parsons 30 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 3: now lining up on defense for the Packers. 31 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 4: You know, before this trade even happened, Dan, we were 32 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 4: sitting here and I had a one liner where I said, 33 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 4: in that division, the Packers should have the most pressure 34 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 4: right now to come in and win it. You are 35 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 4: facing a team that is starting with the brand new 36 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 4: rookie quarterback in Ja Well rookie but not you go 37 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, and JJ McCarthy who spent his first 38 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 4: year injured. You've got the Lions losing both of their 39 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 4: offensive coordinators, and not that I think they're going to 40 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 4: be bad, but I think it's going to take a 41 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 4: minute to get back in their groove with the offensive coordinators. 42 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 4: And then I don't know what Ben Johnson and Caleb 43 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 4: Williams relationship is. I just think they may have similar 44 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 4: personalities where I wonder how truly it's going to come 45 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 4: out on the field for them. And so the easy 46 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 4: team to put pressure on before this move even happened 47 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 4: was the Green Bay Packers. You were already successful last 48 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 4: year in a very tough division and you were basically 49 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 4: running it back, and so before getting Michael Parsons, I 50 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 4: thought the pressure was on them. 51 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 5: On them. 52 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 4: Now I'm like, oh, you better come out of the 53 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 4: NFC as a number one seed. 54 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 3: That targets is on their back. And I think that 55 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 3: most years, Monty, we think it's whoever made it to 56 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 3: the super Bowl from that conference. Like, for as much 57 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 3: as we don't know if the Chiefs are going to 58 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 3: be back or not, the road to the super Bowl 59 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 3: still goes through Kansas City and the AFC obviously with 60 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 3: the egos is the super Bowl champions. I think that 61 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 3: it's a no brainer or would be a no brainer 62 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 3: that the road to the super Bowl and the NFC 63 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,959 Speaker 3: goes through Philadelphia. But I think that you're onto something. 64 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 3: I agree when you push in your chips like that, 65 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 3: and we can get to the breakdown of the chips 66 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 3: that were actually pushed in. Just the fact that Green 67 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 3: Bay says we're gonna go and get this player and 68 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 3: get that player changes everything because now it's you're in 69 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 3: You're not only are you in win now mod like 70 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 3: you have been the last couple of years, but you 71 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 3: are now in win big now mode. Now. I think 72 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 3: that you're absolutely right with that target on their back 73 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 3: because of this Micaeh Parsons deal. And there's really now 74 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 3: no more excuses for Green Bay when you push in 75 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 3: all these chips. 76 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 4: Obviously they saw the pressure, they saw that they had 77 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 4: a real chance to just not only win the division, 78 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 4: but win the NFC and get to the Super Bowl 79 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 4: by making this move for Michael Parsons. But the target 80 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 4: on the back one hundred percent. You you said that, 81 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 4: and I think that's the right expression. That is a 82 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,119 Speaker 4: target on the back, which I hadn't worded it that way. 83 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 4: But now with Michael Parsons, Oh yeah, no, everyone is 84 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 4: wanting to take the Packers down because they were already good. 85 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 4: But I'm I see all this on paper. I'm like, 86 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 4: you need to win the NFC on paper. But we 87 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 4: saw the Packers already had a solid defense last year. 88 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 4: Their problems were offense. They kept dropping passes, Like I know, 89 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 4: Matthew Golden. They've got a new rookie receiver hoping to, 90 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 4: you know, come out and be a difference maker offensively. 91 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 5: But their offense was was sloppy. That's what needed to 92 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 5: be tightened up. Their defense was solid already. Yeah, you 93 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 5: now you get Michael Parsons. 94 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 3: But I think that it's it's interesting when you bring 95 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 3: up Matthew Golden's name because this all goes back to 96 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 3: a little bit of Aaron Rodgers and just to just 97 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 3: to branch off on that portion of it quickly, the 98 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 3: the moves that Green Bay didn't make when Aaron Rodgers 99 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 3: were there were because they had Aaron Rodgers right like 100 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 3: there was there was so much focus on Green Bay 101 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 3: not taking a wide receiver in the first round and 102 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers only throwing one touchdown pass to a first 103 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 3: round pick, which for so long was Marcedes Lewis, the 104 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 3: veteran tight end who's been in the NFL for like 105 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 3: fifteen sixteen years, but that was the only first round pick. 106 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 3: I think those stats were deceiving Monci, but they fit 107 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 3: this argument because I think any NFL team would have 108 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 3: loved to have had Jordy Nelson. They would have loved 109 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 3: to have had DeVante Adams second round pick. Screen Bay 110 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 3: drafted Randall Cobb. I think Cobb was a second or 111 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 3: third round pick. They invested in the weapons, they just 112 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 3: didn't do it in the first round. So then they 113 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 3: go and they draft Matthew Golden in the first round 114 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 3: this year, and then now you go out and you 115 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 3: get a defensive player like Micah Parsons. I think it 116 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 3: says so much about Green Bay and where they think 117 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 3: they are and where they think they are with Jordan Love, 118 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 3: I'm sure Aaron Rodgers is thinking like, oh great, why 119 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 3: couldn't you have done that when I was here? But 120 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 3: Rogers was viewed as the guy of being able to 121 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 3: solve everything. I think Green Bay is a complete team, 122 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 3: like when you look at Josh Jacobs, when you look 123 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:16,799 Speaker 3: at Jordan Love. Their offensive line is intact. Their wide 124 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 3: receiving corps was the question. So you draft Matthew Golden. 125 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 3: But still there's even people trying to convince us how 126 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 3: productive their receiving corps was because you had so many 127 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 3: different guys able to contribute. Now at the start of 128 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,359 Speaker 3: the season, it's going to be a question because you 129 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 3: don't have Christian Watson because he's hurt. Jayden Reid is 130 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 3: digged up a little bit, Romeo Dobbs can never stay 131 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 3: on the field. So there's there are names that Green 132 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 3: Bay used to rely on that you're not going to 133 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 3: have early on in the season. But the move to 134 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 3: Micah Parson says, yeah, we're ready to win a super Bowl. 135 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 3: We want to go to the Super Bowl. And for 136 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 3: as much as Philadelphia tries to defend it, if Philadelphia 137 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 3: doesn't win this year, guess what they won to last year, 138 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 3: green Bay doesn't win it this year. To your point, 139 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 3: it's a complete fail because now you're dealing with Micah Parsons, 140 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 3: and you're dealing with the Micah Parsons who right now 141 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 3: entering the season, is dealing with a back injury. So 142 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 3: now you're gonna want to maximize everything that you have 143 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 3: with it, and you don't have two first round picks 144 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 3: because you gave them up as part of the deal. 145 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 4: Maximize and then at the same time be cautious if 146 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 4: he really does have some sort of injury to his back. 147 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 4: You want to be cautious because you didn't just get 148 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 4: him for this year, you sign him already to a 149 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 4: four year extension, so you're looking at the future. But 150 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 4: bringing up you brought up the Eagles a perfect example though, 151 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 4: but the Eagles are not running it right back. They're 152 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 4: missing five six big players that they had in their 153 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 4: Super Bowl team. The Packers are literally running it back. 154 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 4: And then some yes, it's a little bit different. So 155 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 4: it's like and then there's so much parody when it 156 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 4: comes to the division that the Eagles are in. We 157 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 4: hasn't been a repeat division winner since what the nineteen nineties, 158 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 4: something I maybe off, but I think is idea right, 159 00:07:56,480 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 4: And so the Packers literally like have no excuses at 160 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 4: this point. 161 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 3: I agree, I think that there is. And I'm sitting 162 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 3: here because I'm in mid thought. When you look at 163 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 3: Detroit and you kind of laid out the division earlier, 164 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 3: everybody had some sort of subtractions. And we were doing 165 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 3: this game today. If you're just tuning in Monty and 166 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 3: I are with you here on Fox Sports Radio. We're 167 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 3: here a couple hours prior. We've got a basket of 168 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 3: NFL preview questions in our helmet of questions we all 169 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 3: wrote each other to answer for the upcoming season, and 170 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 3: I got a question earlier, who was this second year 171 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 3: quarterback that's going to take a step back, And I said, 172 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 3: Jaydon Daniels, just because I think it's gonna be tough 173 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 3: to match how well he did last year and all 174 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 3: the things that went right for the Commanders are gonna 175 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 3: something's not gonna go right this year. I'm sorry. It's 176 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 3: just bound even out. At some point when you look 177 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 3: in the NFL, we're shocked that Matthew Stafford is on 178 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 3: track to start at quarterback for the Rams this Sunday 179 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 3: against the Texans, and the Rams are the defending NFC 180 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 3: West champions. Sure people think it is stuff with the 181 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 3: forty nine ers and coming back the Buccaneers. I mean, 182 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 3: there's the wide receiver room in Tampa. Chris Godwin's still 183 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 3: trying to come back. Julia McMillan, Jalen McMillan, excuse me, 184 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 3: he's hurt, gonna miss maybe half the season. So there's 185 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 3: all these questions of these teams that you expect something from, 186 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 3: except Green Bay, where they've added and pushed it through. 187 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,719 Speaker 3: I think that's I agree wholeheartedly that they have the 188 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 3: target on their back. They may not be the odds 189 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 3: on favorite to go to the Super Bowl. But they 190 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 3: have showed more than any other team in the NFC 191 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,959 Speaker 3: that they're all in. But now this Micah Parsons back 192 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 3: situation is one that is I don't think that Green 193 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 3: Bay is overly concerned with the back issue. However, I 194 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 3: also thought the back issue was fake when Micah Parsons 195 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 3: was a member of the Dallas Cowboys. 196 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 5: I'm with you. I thought it was fake too. 197 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 4: And then even Micah after he showed up in Green 198 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 4: Bay and had his first press conference, he said he 199 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 4: was good to go and that he was gonna play. 200 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 4: He's like, I'm ready, Like, let's go. But now this 201 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 4: that you're gonna get an Ampa jural to see to 202 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 4: help you play, I'm. 203 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 5: Wondering if the Cowboys knew something we. 204 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 3: Don't know, if it was more serious, I think that 205 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 3: the NFL would have to step in in a certain 206 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 3: way if there was something that was known or something 207 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 3: that was hidden. He obviously would have to pass the 208 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 3: physical with Jane Bay to be able to play. And 209 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 3: he's done that. He's wearing his new number one jersey. 210 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 3: He's been introduced. The trade is done. Cowboys are moving on. 211 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 3: They've got Kenny Clark, that's where we are. However, it 212 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 3: does bring up the point with Jerry Jones on the 213 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 3: reasons to do the deal, and it's funny. The reason 214 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 3: I think that we could talk about the Packers today, 215 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 3: Monci is because I felt that ever since the trade 216 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 3: was done on Thursday, it was all about the Cowboys 217 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 3: and Jerry Jones, that there wasn't this this conversation about 218 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 3: green Bay very much on what it does for the NFC. 219 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 3: But now that the dust is kind of settled on 220 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 3: this deal, it shows you on how green Bay is 221 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 3: all in and how important that this season is for them. 222 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 3: And to have Micah Parsons dealing with a back issue 223 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 3: that may need an epidural in Week one, I think 224 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 3: there would be concerned. Listen, I get it to the Lions, 225 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 3: but considering the guy hasn't been at training camp of 226 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 3: any sorts in that position, why even play on Sunday? 227 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 3: I know, like, you want to make this great unveiling. 228 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 3: And even though the Cowboys were saying like we expect 229 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 3: him to play, we expect him to be there if 230 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 3: they were to play, and you get a couple of 231 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:39,719 Speaker 3: more days because you're not playing on a Thursday you're 232 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:41,599 Speaker 3: playing on a Sunday. I don't think it would be 233 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 3: the worst thing in the world for Micah Parsons to 234 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 3: sit out of that game against the Lions. 235 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 4: I would not rush it because I feel like back 236 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 4: issues are not something to take lightly. It's not a 237 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 4: sprained ankle, it's not you know, the back can be detrimental, 238 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 4: and I you want him for the long So I'm 239 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 4: with you. Why would you rush him back if he 240 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 4: just got there. He just got there, He's been. 241 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 5: There a week. 242 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 3: Jason Stewart's our executive producer. 243 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 6: Remember Micah Parsons and or his team seemed to take 244 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 6: offense to Jerry Jones talking about his injuries from last 245 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 6: season and the negotiations, so that kind of aggravated the negotiations. 246 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 6: It was kind of dirty pool, I thought, because he 247 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,959 Speaker 6: missed what he missed three games with a high ankle 248 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 6: sprain last year, if not more so, his availability was 249 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 6: called into question during the negotiations and then this. I 250 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 6: know it's a different injury and he's not available, but 251 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 6: it does play into this whole thing. What wasn't it 252 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 6: like ninety ten the ratio of people in our industry 253 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 6: who were calling Jerry Jones an idiot for me. I 254 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 6: think Skip Bayless is like the one won voice who 255 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 6: liked the trade, and it's like most of that was 256 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 6: how could you possibly do this? But if Michael Parsons 257 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 6: miss his time this year, say, or if he becomes 258 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 6: a guy that's kind of a guy that isn't available, 259 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 6: like an Odell Belckham Junior or something, will those same 260 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 6: people be like maybe Jerry Jones NWDIO was talking about, 261 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 6: or will they say no, Michael was injured, so we 262 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 6: haven't we haven't been given the full Mica yet. Well, 263 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,959 Speaker 6: that was one of the reasons that Jerry Jones specifically 264 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 6: brought up as a hesitation in this deal. 265 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 3: I think that Jerry was right in his thinking along 266 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 3: that way. I didn't hate the deal from the Cowboys 267 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 3: perspective because I just didn't think that the Cowboys were 268 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 3: a Micah Parson's long term deal away from winning Super Bowls. 269 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 3: At some point, you have to make a tough decision 270 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 3: and not pay someone, and they did. The only pushback 271 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 3: that I would give to that is the conversation around 272 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 3: the league. I think Jerry was founded in the negotiations 273 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 3: with Micah Parsons, but he was also speaking of both 274 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 3: sides of his mouth, because he said they had a 275 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 3: deal done back in April. So what changes between now 276 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 3: and then if you're using all of these reasons to 277 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 3: not give him that extra money that his agent wanted 278 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 3: him to have. So that's the only part with Jerry 279 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 3: where I say, Okay, great deal, but you were willing 280 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 3: to pay him in April, and now you're saying that 281 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 3: you're concerned about his injury history and what games he 282 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 3: missed in paying him X amount of money. I also 283 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 3: think that the deal that they got wasn't the greatest 284 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 3: deal to just get two first round picks and a 285 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 3: player to help stop the run, which they felt was 286 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 3: an issue of need. I felt that they could have 287 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 3: gotten more from another team, or even from Green Bay 288 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 3: for Micah Parsons. So that's where I wouldn't let Jerry 289 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 3: off the hook, because I feel in a way he 290 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 3: speaking out of both sides of his mouth from saying 291 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 3: that they had a deal done in April and I 292 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 3: thought that he could get more. But ultimately, to your point, 293 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 3: I think that Jerry Jones has a leg toy stand up. 294 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 4: I don't hate this deal for the Cowboys. I agree 295 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 4: with you I think maybe he could have gotten more 296 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 4: and what to answer your question first, Jason, I think 297 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 4: that there are only people that are gonna come out 298 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 4: and defend Jerry Jones. Might be Cowboys fans, but if 299 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 4: you're not a Cowboys fans, if you're not a Cowboy fan, 300 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 4: and even this goes well for the Cowboys, Jared, people 301 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 4: don't like to give Jerry Jones credit. 302 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 5: They just don't want to do that for some reason. 303 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 4: And the thing that I see here, it's like something 304 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 4: something happened where there was a switch for Jerry Jones, 305 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 4: as we're seeing in this documentary. The minute he felt 306 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 4: like Jimmy Johnson was no longer quote unquote loyal to him, 307 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 4: he immediately got the boot. I feel like there was 308 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 4: something went down with the agent behind closed doors that 309 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 4: right there, something switch for Jimmy or excuse me, for 310 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 4: Jerry Jones, and he wanted to make the trade happen yesterday. 311 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 4: And that's why he was like two first jounp picks cool, 312 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 4: go ahead, send him on his merry way, shove it 313 00:15:58,720 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 4: up that agent's ass. 314 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's the problem with Jerry though, for the 315 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 3: defenders is to have someone who's so emotional fair to 316 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 3: to like when you're in that position, you can't be 317 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 3: that emotional in Jerry is and I think that's a 318 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 3: knock on his GM duties and in his role as 319 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 3: the general manager. 320 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 4: It's just hard because right, he has had so much 321 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 4: success money wise that like he doesn't he doesn't think 322 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 4: he's doing a bad job. 323 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 5: He's like, what are you talking about? I have a 324 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 5: billion dollar team. Yes, I know I haven't won, but 325 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 5: we're talking about it. 326 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 3: It's the most valuable franchise. 327 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 5: I'm winning here. 328 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: Where what are you talking about there? 329 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 3: Take the Luca deal to the Lakers. When you look 330 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 3: back on that deal, what was the worst part about 331 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 3: the deal? I'll tell you what mine is and then 332 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 3: then you can answer. I thought it was the return 333 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 3: return that Dallas got in getting an injured Anthony Davis. 334 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 3: So their concerns of trading Luka Doncic may have been legit. 335 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 3: Luca now getting into shape tells us that he wasn't 336 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 3: in shape previously, and Dallas may have had those concerns, 337 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 3: but it was the return for what they got for 338 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 3: him where we felt he could have been shopped to 339 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 3: other teams and you could have gotten more. I don't 340 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 3: think it's any different than what Dallas has right now. 341 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 3: Is Michael Parsons may have a back issue and he 342 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 3: may have an injury problem, but ultimately, Jerry didn't get 343 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 3: maximum value for the piece that he had, and ultimately, 344 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 3: I think that comes back to Jerry Jones is not 345 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 3: doing the job that he should have done as a 346 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 3: general manager to try to squeeze every amount of juice 347 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 3: in a trade that you can get out of someone 348 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 3: of the caliber of Michael Parsons. 349 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,479 Speaker 4: I know there's a lot of similarities because it's Dallas, 350 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 4: poor Dallas fans, but I actually think they're not the same. 351 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 5: And I feel. 352 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 4: Like, like like you said, the Cowboys were not a 353 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 4: Micah Parsons extension away from getting past a playoff win 354 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,199 Speaker 4: one playoff win, they weren't even there, let alone the 355 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 4: Super Bowl. The MAVs went to the finals with Luca 356 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 4: because of Luca. 357 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 5: I don't think it's so much worse. 358 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 4: The Luca thing is so much worse, and you got 359 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 4: rid of one, the one guy who actually took you 360 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 4: to the finals. Mica and Luca, to me, are not 361 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 4: the same because the sports are different, not in levels 362 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 4: of skill, but just like what they mean to the sport. 363 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 3: I'm yeah, and I'm not and I'm not, And I 364 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:32,360 Speaker 3: think it's a very fair point. I think that you're 365 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 3: accurate with it. The point that I'm making is, even 366 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 3: if there was something that Dallas knew about Luca that 367 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 3: they wouldn't be able to continue with, the rest of 368 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 3: the league doesn't know about it. So you're trying to 369 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 3: get you know, what the real value of Luca is. 370 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 3: In who Luca is and why you're getting rid of him. 371 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 3: Everybody else doesn't know. They could have gotten more than 372 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 3: just two first round picks and Kenny Clark from it. 373 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 3: And I think that even though Jerry's right in doing 374 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 3: the deal, I mean, if Micah Parsons is limited and 375 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 3: is injured or throughout the next four years of his 376 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 3: of his contract, then Jerry wins the trade. But instead 377 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 3: of winning thirty to nothing, I felt he could have 378 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 3: won fifty to nothing. Maybe in the end that doesn't 379 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 3: matter if you have that much of a much of 380 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 3: a blowout, but that's kind of how I view it. 381 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 3: But I think I think it's I think you bring 382 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 3: up a fair point that the you know, in comparing 383 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 3: the two the Mavericks were almost to the mountaintop Jason Stewart. 384 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:27,199 Speaker 6: Now, Mons, you brought up the documentary. Now have you 385 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 6: have you finished it or you're still. 386 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 1: Three or four it? 387 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 5: Well, I know I'm on episode seven. 388 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 6: Okay, good, Dan finished it. I finished it. I very 389 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 6: much recommend it. Now, Dan, as you were, as you 390 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 6: were watching Jerry Jones stumble through this press conference trying 391 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 6: to justify the trade and everythink, did it also strike you? 392 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 6: Because it struck me this way that if you watch 393 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 6: the documentary, and you don't even have needed to see 394 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 6: the documentary to see to know this that Jerry Jones 395 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 6: and Jimmy Johnson parted ways for a lot of reasons, 396 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 6: but the main reason was is but they couldn't really 397 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 6: find any common ground on who would take credit for 398 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 6: the herschel Walker deal. And to this day, Jimmy Johnson 399 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 6: it still irks him to even mention that it was 400 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 6: anybody other than Jimmy Johnson. It's a huge point of contention. 401 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 6: And as I'm watching Jerry Jones stumble through this press 402 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 6: conference on Thursday night, I want to say, I'm thinking 403 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 6: this is Jerry's herschel Walker. Now, if this deal works 404 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 6: out and these draft picks pan out and Michah Parsons 405 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 6: isn't great on the Packers. Jerry Jones could for once 406 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 6: say that he pulled off the deal and it was 407 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 6: his decision. Only you get any of that vibe out 408 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 6: of this, I think. 409 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 3: That's a fair assessment. I yeah, I do get that vibe. 410 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 3: I will also say this that I think that throughout 411 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 3: the layers of that documentary, the first one of the 412 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 3: money that he owed to people, not only in trying 413 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 3: to strike oil in Texas, where he said that this 414 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 3: was kind of his last shot or one of his 415 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 3: last shots, because he owed people so much money, so 416 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 3: much so that he was going to team up with 417 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 3: Jimmy Hoffa to try to buy the Chargers, like he 418 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 3: was willing to do these things, but that they're not 419 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 3: as on firm ground as he wants you to think 420 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 3: that they are. So that was the revealing thing to me, 421 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 3: is Jerry is telling us on how much they were 422 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 3: losing money with the Cowboys early on, with the organization 423 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 3: and the millions of dollars that they were losing. So 424 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 3: in all these times where he's made a big move 425 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 3: or made a big splash, he hasn't been in the 426 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 3: Catbird seat, and that's how I feel about this situation. 427 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 3: But to bring up the Jimmy Johnson thing, to have 428 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 3: this be his deal, yeah, I could see that of 429 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 3: him wanting this on, you know, in. 430 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 4: His obit because we talk about he's emotional like these 431 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 4: other things. He thinks about it, like as much as 432 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 4: he's a businessman, he is very emotionally involved, and that 433 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 4: would be a victory that he would be able to 434 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 4: claim solely by himself. 435 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 5: So I totally see that. Absolutely, it's yes. 436 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 3: I think that there are parallels, yes, absolutely to it. 437 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 3: And this could be Jerry's I'm the one who did 438 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 3: the money, Parson, remember that, Why did you get more? 439 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 3: Why you could have gotten more? 440 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 5: Settle down, now down She's. 441 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 3: I'm Dan Byer. Jason Stewart's here, as is Chris Purfet. 442 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 3: We are telling thank you, thank you. We are drawing 443 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 3: questions out of the the hat of NFL preview. I've 444 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 3: got one right here, all right, you guys, ready for 445 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 3: the quick NFL questions. Will Travis Kelcey and Taylor Swift 446 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 3: secretly get married during the season? 447 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 5: I wonder who wrote that one. 448 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I can tell it's girls handwriting. I can tell 449 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 3: it's it's it's it's girl's handwriting. I'm sure Manzi wrote it. No, 450 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 3: and you want to know why. 451 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 5: Why because they're already married. 452 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 3: No, because Travis Kelcey is committed to focusing on this season. 453 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 3: And what an awful look to think that you're going 454 00:22:59,960 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 3: to get married between now and February when you said 455 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 3: you were all in on this year. 456 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: That's not completely his choice though. 457 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 3: That's true. That is very true, Chris Purfet. 458 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: Just when Jesus decides to start putting the pressure on it, 459 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: it don't matter what week it is, fair point, bye week. 460 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 5: Keep an eye on them. 461 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 462 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 463 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. 464 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 3: A Happy week one to you. A happy Labor Day. 465 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 3: And I didn't realize, but this is a busy day 466 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 3: for the Canadian Football League as well. Action going on 467 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 3: Labor Day for them. L A b oh. You are 468 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 3: welcome in. It is a Monday here on Fox Sports 469 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 3: Radio if you know. And Rich we're in for Dan 470 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 3: Patrick earlier today. So you got Manci Milanios and myself 471 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 3: with Jason Stewart and Chris Purfett hanging out after an 472 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 3: almost full week of college football. Just one more game 473 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 3: to go. We'll get into that a little bit, plus 474 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 3: week one in the NFL. Buckle up, hang out, have 475 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 3: a good time. Wrap up your extended weekend with us 476 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 3: right here on Fox Sports Radio. What a weekend it was, 477 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 3: What a weekend. 478 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 4: I can't believe it's September. Really though, really, I can't 479 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 4: believe football season is here. We've been waiting so patiently 480 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 4: for it. 481 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 3: You realize how quickly it's going to go. 482 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a I know, did you say, Mansi 483 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 1: you could be waiting all day for a Sunday night. 484 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 5: I could be waiting all day for Londay. 485 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely, And it is gonna go by in the 486 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 4: blink of a night. We're gonna be celebrating our birthdays 487 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 4: before we know it. 488 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 3: Dan, that is true. Yes, January just around the corner. 489 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 3: Something that we all look forward to, those January birthdays 490 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 3: when there's so much to do outside, when you live 491 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 3: in certain parts of the game. 492 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure. 493 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 3: Know what you do, You go bowling. Yeah, that's what 494 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 3: it is. Bowling. Birthday parties are the thing to do 495 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 3: in January. There was a part of this past weekend 496 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 3: in Columbus, Ohio State knocks off Texas and college football, 497 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 3: LSU wins the Battle of Death Valleys going to Clemson's 498 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 3: Death Valley, and it was also a Battle of the Tigers. 499 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 3: By the way, it was the LSU Tigers against the 500 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 3: Clemson Tigers. LSU gets the win there Florida State with 501 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 3: the upset of Alabama. We had a uniform controversy between 502 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 3: Northwestern and Tulane that one's kind of been cleared up 503 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 3: a little bit, but Tulane taking it out taking their 504 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 3: frustrations out on the Wildcats of Northwestern after Tulane felt 505 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 3: Northwestern didn't allow them to wear their white uniforms to 506 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 3: honor the twentieth anniversary and all the victims of Hurricane 507 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 3: Katrina in the twenty year anniversary of them playing their 508 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 3: first game after that tragedy. So much going on in 509 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 3: college football, but I would say that the ultimate storyline 510 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 3: was happening on Saturday before any games had started, and 511 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 3: that was Lee Corso saying goodbye to college game Day. 512 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 3: So much so that if you missed it. Fox and 513 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 3: ESPN worked out in an agreement that allowed Fox to 514 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 3: carry the live headgear segment being broadcast on ESPN, the 515 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 3: two big competitors joining forces to honor Lee Corso as 516 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 3: the Ohio State band spelled Corso out across the field. 517 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 3: The ESPN crew was fifty yard line in front of 518 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 3: the band as Lee Corso made his final pick and 519 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 3: his final appearance on college game Day. And I didn't cry, 520 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 3: but I could understand why there would be reasons to 521 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 3: be cutting onions. Sure, a very emotional time for so 522 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 3: many that loved college football, and I've loved it for 523 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:52,360 Speaker 3: so long. Lee Corso an absolute staple you put Mount 524 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 3: Rushmore of, like these iconic media personalities is really what 525 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 3: it is. And Lee Corso's on that we said goodbye 526 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 3: to him on Saturday in his final broadcast. 527 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 4: College football and lea course will kind of go hand 528 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 4: in hand. And the fact that you said ESPN and 529 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 4: Fox were like, Yeah, this is such a big deal, 530 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 4: You're both going to be able to have this content 531 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 4: that just goes to show how big he is in 532 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 4: the world of college football and the respect and the 533 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 4: respect there are things that there are talents that come 534 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 4: along and people work for different networks, and I mean 535 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 4: John Madden worked for all of them, Like I mean, 536 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 4: he truly did. 537 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 3: NBC, ABC, Fox, CBS worked for all of them, and 538 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 3: everybody has their piece of it, but Courso was such 539 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 3: an institution. And honestly, before Fox got big into college football, 540 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 3: it was ESPN who really really had their arms around it. 541 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 3: I mean, CBS obviously had a role, and we always 542 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 3: knew the CBS theme song, but to have it on 543 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 3: a twenty four hour a day network, to have it 544 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 3: starting at noon Eastern and you're going way past midnight 545 00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 3: that night with College Game Day, Final and the shows 546 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 3: that they would put on ESPN, to their credit, has 547 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 3: helped take college football to a certain level, and Lee 548 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 3: Corso was a huge piece of that. And it just 549 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 3: got me the thinking of not only of other personalities 550 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 3: in his role, because I think John Madden is a 551 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 3: is a very fair one to put, but those personalities 552 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 3: and just finales in general, of the final one. I mean, 553 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 3: we just had a recent one in the NBA where HB. 554 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 3: Brown called this last game for ESPN, So you have 555 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 3: that sort of farewell. There are a lot of farewells, 556 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 3: and that's what got my mind thinking of what are 557 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 3: the farewells that stand out to you? Eight seven, seven, 558 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 3: nine nine on Fox eight, seven, seven, nine, nine to six, 559 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 3: six three sixty nine. We know how Cavino and Rich 560 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 3: love to get you involved, and we'd love to hear 561 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 3: from you as well. If you want to hit up 562 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 3: Moncy at Moncey Belanos, you can find me at Dan 563 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 3: Byer on Fox. The farewells of farewells occurred with Lee 564 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 3: Corso on Saturday, but there are a lot of other 565 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 3: farewells that end up standing in your mind. 566 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 5: I mean, immediately when you mentioned farewell and I'll never. 567 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 3: Forget it, let me write it down, let me write it. 568 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, I'm going away from sports, I am because 569 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 4: immediately when you were talking about big farewells, one that 570 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 4: I'll never ever forget was the end of Friends. 571 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 5: Did she get off the plane? Did she get off 572 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 5: the plane? 573 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 4: I got off the plane and the door opens with 574 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 4: her And that was the second to last episode two. 575 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 4: Then I believe it was the second to last one 576 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 4: for their big farewell But like that, the way Friends ended, 577 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 4: it was like there's not many shows that I think 578 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 4: wrap up nicely and have a nice farewell and actually 579 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 4: close the chapter and close the door. 580 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 5: They literally closed Monica's door. 581 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 3: Cry, I did I guess I did. 582 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 4: And sometimes I'll be watching it and I'll still get 583 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 4: a little like emotional because I just remember, I feel 584 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 4: like I go back in time being at home and 585 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 4: watching that on a Thursday night. 586 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 5: So was it thursdays? 587 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 3: So Rachel gets off the plane. Rachel gets off, Yes, 588 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 3: to be with Ross again. 589 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 5: Yes, she doesn't go to Paris. She was going to 590 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 5: Paris on a new job. 591 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 4: And then she gets off the plane after Ross tries 592 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 4: to go stop her at the airport and then he 593 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 4: tells her I'm still in love with you, and she's like, 594 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 4: I can't do this right now, I've got to go, 595 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 4: and then she goes and she gets off the plane. 596 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 3: I never liked them together in the show. I felt 597 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 3: they were better when they were apart than when they 598 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 3: were a couple. Well, that's that's again the best. You know, 599 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 3: this was seventeen pages front and back, and I'll just 600 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 3: read your letter like those are the best. When they 601 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 3: were they were splitting. 602 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 5: Up, when they're fighting. 603 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 3: Yes, I love That's why I love so I get it, 604 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 3: like your point of them, like putting the. 605 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,719 Speaker 4: Perfect They just wrapped it up like there is no 606 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 4: questions left after how they ended that when you have 607 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 4: other shows and you're like. 608 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 5: Really, this is how you ended it. There's so many 609 00:30:58,880 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 5: questions left, there's. 610 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 3: A lot of pressure. There's a lot of pressure. 611 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 5: With those yes, with those yes totally. 612 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 3: And if you can make your core fan base happy, 613 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 3: I think that that's satisfies. 614 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 5: I didn't watch Game of Thrones, but apparently that one sucked. 615 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 4: Everybody was real mad about that finite as our producer 616 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 4: Jason is not in his head. 617 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 5: Yes I didn't watch that, but people are real mad 618 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 5: about that one. 619 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 3: Oh. 620 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 6: Game of Thrones was awful. The entire season. Their entire 621 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 6: final season is dreadful. 622 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 3: Here's the great thing about I for me with Game 623 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 3: of Thrones is we watched it all via streaming. They're 624 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 3: like like catching up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I watched with 625 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 3: eight years prior. Yes, I did not did not watch it. 626 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 3: I don't think I would have been able to. So 627 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 3: to watch that show, just to be able to go 628 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 3: to another episode was magnificent. The problem was is when 629 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 3: I saw the ending on social media, because we had 630 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 3: just started watching the show, I knew what was going 631 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,959 Speaker 3: to happen at the end, or at least how it 632 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 3: was going to happen at the end. Which ruined the 633 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 3: ending for me a little bit. But I from your 634 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 3: experience and what you guys are saying, I remember there 635 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 3: being enormous backlash to how it wrapped up. Is that 636 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 3: going to be your finale? Jason that no? Remember No. 637 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 6: In fact, I'm amazed because I was in my head 638 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 6: thinking about all of these sports farewells, and I'm just 639 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 6: amazed at how great you guys are at weaving pop 640 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 6: culture into your sports. It's pretty incredible because I didn't 641 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 6: even think that was an option to go with the friends. 642 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 6: You guys are just your your magicians. 643 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 3: I thought that there was I wrote down a different 644 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 3: one for Manzi. I thought it was going to be 645 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 3: sports wise. I think when you talk about recent sports farewells, 646 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 3: I think the place that we go to is Kobe, 647 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 3: like that's the and now, obviously with what has happened since, 648 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 3: it's even more so in our mind. But even that 649 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 3: night overshadowed the Warriors winning the record seventy three seventy 650 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 3: third regular season game completely dominate everything. And I think 651 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 3: sports finalees like if you bring up like one of those, 652 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 3: it's yeah, it's tough to beat that. 653 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 6: It's so rare to get an athlete have with an 654 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 6: amazing farewell, because so many athletes don't determine their farewell 655 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 6: or it's it's in retrospect. So the Kobe thing was 656 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 6: very much planned. We knew what his final game was. 657 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 6: They weren't making the playoffs. This was it. And then 658 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 6: he had that speech at the end where he dropped 659 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 6: the mic. I think we played within the last year 660 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 6: parts of that farewell speech, and I it brought tears 661 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 6: to my eyes because he mentions his daughter in that 662 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 6: farewell speech, and then like looking back, it was like 663 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 6: I remember in the moment, it was powerful. And then 664 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 6: even if you watch it now, I dare you not 665 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 6: to cry. But along those lines, locally Los Angeles based, 666 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 6: we knew it was coming to an end. But Vin 667 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 6: Scully's final season and his final broadcast, I want to say, 668 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 6: Kevin Costner like hosted this long ordeal and it was 669 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 6: to me that entire season was sad for me. Vin 670 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 6: Scully was the soundtrack of my childhood and I just 671 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,760 Speaker 6: remember getting at times just emotional as we went along. 672 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 6: This will be the last time he'll be here, This 673 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 6: will be the last time he does this. Uh. That 674 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 6: was a big sports farewell For me, that was like 675 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 6: that was closing the book on a part of my life. 676 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,760 Speaker 6: And I think a lot of people shared that feeling. 677 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:32,240 Speaker 3: Was the final game in San Francisco? Was that the final? 678 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: I think so? 679 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 4: Yeah that he yes, that he called I believe it 680 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 4: was in San Francisco. But the farewell here at Dodger Stadium, 681 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,240 Speaker 4: he sang, he didn't he sing to the fans. 682 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, like he literally sang to the fans like what. 683 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 3: A bad job by Major League base. 684 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 4: Absolutely well, they wanted they wanted it to be the 685 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 4: Giants because at the first, you know, the Giants and 686 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 4: the Dodgers in New York, and like that's how he 687 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 4: kind of started back there. 688 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 5: We started with the Dodgers back in New York. 689 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 4: So there was a bit of history there that wasn't 690 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 4: completely dropping the ball. 691 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 5: But you're right, like the last game should. 692 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 4: Have been on the Dodter Stadium, but there was a 693 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:08,280 Speaker 4: historical reference of him calling the last game against the Giants. 694 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, at least then an end in Miami. But yes, yeah, Marlins, 695 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:19,280 Speaker 3: Marlins fans, I'll go unless Chris has got a farewell? 696 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 3: Yeah you got one, Chris. 697 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: I do, I do. I always remember this one and 698 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 1: I just I don't know why, Like I'm not a 699 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 1: fan of the team, although my grandfather was, but it's 700 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: always seared into my brain, probably because he was a closer, 701 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 1: Mariano Rivera, because his entrance, his walks the mount, everything 702 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 1: was always so iconic that there was always this pageantry 703 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 1: when Mariano Rivera comes out enters Sandman and you know 704 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 1: that that's like, here's your doom, here's your doom. You 705 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 1: can't win. They're sending out Mariano Rivera to mow your 706 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 1: team down. And there was I don't remember the context 707 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,839 Speaker 1: of the game, but he basically couldn't finish the game. 708 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 1: But it was the final game Mariano Rivera was going 709 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 1: to play, and they sent out and there was there 710 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,319 Speaker 1: was a point where they sent out Jeter and and 711 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 1: pet and he petted out to the mound to get him, 712 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 1: and it was just this it it felt like a 713 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 1: Hollywood moment. It felt like, you know, this very bittersweet 714 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 1: moment of like this is it. This is the end 715 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 1: of this generation of Yankees players. Uh, they got to 716 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,360 Speaker 1: linger out there, and obviously the cameras linger on everything. 717 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 1: There's the emotion between these guys who have you know, 718 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 1: played all these playoff series, gone to the World Series, 719 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:44,240 Speaker 1: won the World Series together, just it it seared into 720 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 1: my brain as one of the few moments in reality 721 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 1: that actually feels like it could have probably been in 722 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 1: a movie. 723 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 3: I I got teary eyed. You're talking about the Yankees 724 00:36:54,400 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 3: with Jeter's gatorade ad remember that, Like I was just 725 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 3: like and I was no Derek Jeter fan. I was 726 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 3: not a Yankees fan by any means, but you know, 727 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,919 Speaker 3: because he's also like he's the last of an era. 728 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 3: Like when you're the last of an era, I think 729 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 3: that there's a lot of luggage that you carry with you, 730 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 3: and I felt that Jeter was of that era and 731 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,879 Speaker 3: just hearing the Obviously music does it as well when 732 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 3: you put it together, but I remember I got emotional 733 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 3: with that. 734 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 4: It hits a little different, yes, with music, absolutely, but 735 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 4: even Derek Jeter his final game where he walked it 736 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,279 Speaker 4: off against the Orioles, like that was his final. 737 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 5: At bat, I believe at Yankee Stadium. 738 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 4: So it's just like, there's that's a perfect way to 739 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,360 Speaker 4: also end it. You couldn't script it better for Derek Jeter. 740 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 3: I know Jason is a lover of documentaries. I don't 741 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,880 Speaker 3: know if you've seen this one, but the Roger Federer 742 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 3: Twelve Days, covering Roger Federer's final matches of his professional career, 743 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 3: very very well done and Amazon if you're looking for it. 744 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,799 Speaker 3: But what I what struck me so much about it 745 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 3: was because it wasn't at US Open, it wasn't at 746 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 3: a Wimbledon. It was they were at matches in I 747 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 3: believe it was in It was in London. It was 748 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 3: in New York or London. The point being what stood 749 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,879 Speaker 3: out to me was how much Rafael night Doll was 750 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 3: emotionally invested. Like you would understand sometimes guys can put 751 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:23,839 Speaker 3: up a brave front and sometimes they're unable to and 752 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 3: may break down. But to have someone be your rival 753 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 3: and competitor to not be able to keep in your 754 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,280 Speaker 3: emotions into to sob now that you're. 755 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 5: It's all, yes, I remember this now, yeah. 756 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, like it was truly. 757 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:41,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, literally he was sobbing and. 758 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:43,839 Speaker 3: There was you know, there's so much to it, but 759 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 3: you knew that this was going to be the end. 760 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 3: It wasn't like did he get ousted in the semi finals? 761 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 3: You know this was this was going to be the match. 762 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 3: This was going to be the end of the career, 763 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,799 Speaker 3: so you had a set date. They were able to 764 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 3: cover those final twelve days and everything that came with it. 765 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,239 Speaker 3: But to see how the other competitors were so emotionally 766 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 3: moved by Federer's retirement was something that always stuck with me. 767 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,759 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a good one. I forgot about that one. 768 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 6: It does remind me of that that whole chance to 769 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:18,400 Speaker 6: say goodbye thing, right, I mean, Federer had obviously announced 770 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,719 Speaker 6: that this is it, and it gave everyone a chance 771 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 6: to kind of get their ducks in order to say goodbye. 772 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,760 Speaker 6: Most athletes never get that chance. Most head coaches don't. 773 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:32,239 Speaker 6: And it reminds me of the Patriots. I thought that 774 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 6: Bob Kraft. I thought he did Belichick dirty at the 775 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 6: end of his final season. I think everyone kind of 776 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 6: knew that was going to be Belichick's last season. In fact, 777 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 6: he probably could have been fired before the season ended, 778 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 6: so maybe Kraft extended him the courtesy of not doing that. 779 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,800 Speaker 6: But I don't remember there being any kind of goodbye 780 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,719 Speaker 6: from the Patriots fans. It was never announced, and maybe 781 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 6: Belichick got something to do with this, but it was 782 00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 6: just kind of weird, right, You have the greatest head 783 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 6: coach in the is true of the NFL, and that 784 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 6: you know, our most contemporary dynasty and no one ever 785 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:07,960 Speaker 6: really said goodbye. And I think that was because of 786 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:08,720 Speaker 6: Bob Kraft. 787 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 3: There's you know, you look back, that's why like like 788 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 3: Peyton Manning's farewell is a super Bowl win, Like who 789 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 3: doesn't want to go out like that way in winning it? 790 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:24,320 Speaker 3: But more times than not you have losses in games, 791 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,239 Speaker 3: and unfortunately in Belichick's tenure, it just got to be 792 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 3: so sour at the end that there was no opportunity 793 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,800 Speaker 3: that fans actually wanted the person to leave. Like that's 794 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,800 Speaker 3: there's there's there's such a balance with that. The TV 795 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:42,400 Speaker 3: show aspect the finales, that the best finale that I remember, 796 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,919 Speaker 3: and I think that the Friends won is pretty good. 797 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,759 Speaker 3: But I'll never forget when Cheers ended again this is 798 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 3: a little before your time, but just to just to 799 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:56,239 Speaker 3: have Sam Malone, you know, tell the customer that you 800 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 3: know the bar was closed, you know, sorry, we're closed, 801 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 3: and then he walks off getting emotional just thinking about it. 802 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,239 Speaker 3: But that episode was like wow. And Cheers is one 803 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 3: of those shows too that I had more appreciation of 804 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 3: as I got older. Jokes. I understood jokes that they 805 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,319 Speaker 3: made in the show that I didn't understand when I 806 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,840 Speaker 3: was younger. But for the Seinfeld one that was panned 807 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,480 Speaker 3: so much and people not liking the ending, like, there 808 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,840 Speaker 3: are some really good ones, and the Cheers one stands 809 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:21,279 Speaker 3: out to me. 810 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 4: Sticking here with TV shows, I didn't watch Cheers, but 811 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 4: I do know that final scene and people talk about it. 812 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 4: The Office the farewell to Michael Scott so not the 813 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:37,279 Speaker 4: end of the Office. The farewell to Michael Scott was 814 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:41,319 Speaker 4: Chef's kiss. Once Michael Scott left the office, I had 815 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 4: a rough going trying to, you know, enjoy. 816 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:44,319 Speaker 5: It as much. 817 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 4: And then they do wrap up the show again and 818 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 4: they bring Michael Scott back, you know, they bring him 819 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,479 Speaker 4: back for just like a hot second and they wrap 820 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,880 Speaker 4: it up. That's fine, But the farewell to how they 821 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,799 Speaker 4: said goodbye to Michael Scott, I think they executed that 822 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:00,879 Speaker 4: really well. 823 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 3: Those are spots too where the actors know where like 824 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,880 Speaker 3: the emotion comes in when you know what's really happening. 825 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not to cut you off, but like there's 826 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,360 Speaker 4: a scene where he says by to Pam at the 827 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,880 Speaker 4: airport because he's leaving to go be with Holly, and 828 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 4: there's a scene where he's talking to Pam and they 829 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,920 Speaker 4: talked about it after that they had that moment they recorded. 830 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,359 Speaker 4: Then there's no sound and they by themselves, like they 831 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,359 Speaker 4: really said by to each other, but they didn't have 832 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 4: the sound, and the actors both were like, it was 833 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,840 Speaker 4: really sweet because we knew they were recording us, but 834 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 4: we knew they couldn't hear us, so we had our 835 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,880 Speaker 4: own little go bye while being filmed, and that's what 836 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,880 Speaker 4: they showed. And then they also sing to him using 837 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:41,400 Speaker 4: the song from the musical Rent three hundred and sixty five. Right, yeah, yeah, 838 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 4: they sing that to him and he did not know 839 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,239 Speaker 4: that was happening. That was on the spot, So they 840 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,080 Speaker 4: did a lot of things just kind of on the spot. 841 00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,600 Speaker 4: I thought that was a well done farewell for Michael 842 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 4: Scott in the office. 843 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:57,080 Speaker 6: Most of these relationships, by the way, and because of 844 00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:01,680 Speaker 6: contractual reasons or because the actor or creators have had 845 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 6: some kind of friction, so most actors don't need to 846 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,440 Speaker 6: don't get to have that farewell. Most are just kind 847 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,880 Speaker 6: of written off, and like what happened to George Clooney 848 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,799 Speaker 6: in the r oh Okay, so to actually have those 849 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:17,319 Speaker 6: moments are so rare where a popular show loses its 850 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,719 Speaker 6: most popular figure. They know they're going to continue, but 851 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,719 Speaker 6: they could say goodbye to the named person. Good very rare. 852 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 3: Right, that's a great point. I couldn't even tell you 853 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,640 Speaker 3: what happened on the last episode of the Office. 854 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:34,120 Speaker 4: Dwight gets married with Angel and it's supposed to be 855 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:35,759 Speaker 4: Jim is supposed to be the best man, and Jim's like, 856 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,919 Speaker 4: I can't be your best man, and then here comes 857 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:42,799 Speaker 4: Michael Scott. Oh, that's that's kind of like how they 858 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:43,200 Speaker 4: do it? 859 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,400 Speaker 3: Sure, and then Jim looked at the camera. 860 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,400 Speaker 4: And was like, and then Michael Scott says, that's what 861 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 4: she said, and then like, that's literally I think it 862 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,759 Speaker 4: is one line in that episode. 863 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, completely lost on me because it was memorable. It 864 00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:03,840 Speaker 3: wasn't you kind of spread away? Can we can we agree? 865 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:08,759 Speaker 3: The most memorable is Sopranos, Like for just I mean, 866 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:13,359 Speaker 3: it's the conversation that just continued because of the lack 867 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,160 Speaker 3: of closure. I didn't even watch it. 868 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 4: And I didn't watch it, so I was like, I 869 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:19,560 Speaker 4: don't know, should I watch it? 870 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 5: Is it that much? 871 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:26,560 Speaker 3: But still the conversations that came from of fans and everybody. 872 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,719 Speaker 3: It's it's not exactly of where were you at this 873 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,880 Speaker 3: point or you remember where you were when this happened, 874 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,080 Speaker 3: but I feel that there are so many people of 875 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,520 Speaker 3: Like I remember I was watching and a Thelmo cable 876 00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,160 Speaker 3: went out. You know, I didn't mean to do that 877 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:43,040 Speaker 3: in a New Jersey accent. Sorry Cavino and Rich Sorry Spot, 878 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,319 Speaker 3: sorry about that, but that's what I felt like was 879 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,040 Speaker 3: one that even if you weren't invested in the show, 880 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:52,239 Speaker 3: you had some sort of connection or feeling towards it 881 00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,239 Speaker 3: because of the way that it just ended. 882 00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 6: I probably spent way too much time on the Sopranos 883 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:02,360 Speaker 6: and reading a out the Sopranos, and then during COVID 884 00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,520 Speaker 6: it got kind of a rebirth because during COVID, two 885 00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:11,080 Speaker 6: of the character actors did a podcast where they went 886 00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,759 Speaker 6: each and every episode they covered it, so you could 887 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,560 Speaker 6: watch the podcast and then you could watch the show 888 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:20,560 Speaker 6: as an accompaniment. It was pot for Sopranos nerds. 889 00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:21,160 Speaker 3: It was amazing. 890 00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:25,600 Speaker 6: So then you start thinking about that last episode, and 891 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,960 Speaker 6: it was so controversial and it pissed so many people 892 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,240 Speaker 6: off in real time. But I think people have begun 893 00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,160 Speaker 6: to appreciate the way he ended it, because the creator 894 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:37,880 Speaker 6: of the show wanted everybody to in their own mind, 895 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,480 Speaker 6: have their ending. He left it open to interpretation. How 896 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:45,040 Speaker 6: does this series end in the viewer's mind? And I 897 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:48,799 Speaker 6: think it was brilliant. It just abruptly ended with a 898 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,880 Speaker 6: journey song and then people are like, well, what happened? 899 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:53,480 Speaker 6: We need to know what happened. But I think that 900 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,279 Speaker 6: the kind of the nuance of writing it that way 901 00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,360 Speaker 6: to where you the viewers, going to come up with 902 00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,920 Speaker 6: your own ending, such a brilliant way to end it interesting. 903 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,040 Speaker 4: I feel like we the viewers don't like that. We 904 00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:05,560 Speaker 4: want you to tell us how it ended. 905 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,839 Speaker 3: To Jason's point, at that minute, you feel that way. 906 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,480 Speaker 3: Right time goes on, you're kind of like, Okay, I 907 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,759 Speaker 3: think Tony Soprano lives, or I think Tony Soprano does. 908 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,400 Speaker 4: And I feel like you also leave it the door 909 00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,279 Speaker 4: cracked open in case you wanted to bring the show back. 910 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,800 Speaker 5: Always sure by not completely. 911 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 3: Right that maybe just maybe, just maybe. 912 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,839 Speaker 5: That's the only good thing about it, but that's not 913 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,320 Speaker 5: my style. Tell me how it ends, I'll. 914 00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,279 Speaker 3: Tell tell me. I'll tell you, yeah, because I know 915 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:38,120 Speaker 3: we got to go to break but this we can continue. 916 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 3: I know there's more. We haven't even talked about music 917 00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 3: and bands and farewell tours. In that sort of deal, 918 00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:45,480 Speaker 3: I think of coach k. 919 00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:48,280 Speaker 5: Oh that's a good one too, because. 920 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,800 Speaker 3: We know it was coach K's last season, but Coach 921 00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:56,080 Speaker 3: K's only way to leave was winning a national championship, 922 00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,920 Speaker 3: and Coach k ends up going out losing in the 923 00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:05,520 Speaker 3: final four to North Carolina, like like like think about that, 924 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:10,000 Speaker 3: Like the career is is dard near unmatched and the 925 00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,360 Speaker 3: success is great, but the one ending like it's different, like, 926 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,839 Speaker 3: oh guess what we we You know, we lost we 927 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,160 Speaker 3: lost to Michigan, or we lost to Michigan State, or 928 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,439 Speaker 3: you know, they're a tough team we've played throughout the years. 929 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,200 Speaker 3: We lost to Texas or something like that. But to 930 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,759 Speaker 3: be against your long term rival, and maybe maybe in 931 00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,160 Speaker 3: a way there was I don't know something fitting with that, 932 00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,480 Speaker 3: but I always felt like it's tough if you're a 933 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,799 Speaker 3: college basketball coach and you're about to walk off into 934 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,360 Speaker 3: the sunset, there is only one winner, like in so 935 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:42,360 Speaker 3: many sports, and you're because of the tournament, you're likely 936 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,440 Speaker 3: going to end with a loss. And that's what happened 937 00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:49,840 Speaker 3: with coach k all right, we got Robert in Las Vegas. Robert, 938 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:54,200 Speaker 3: welcome to Comuno and Rich how you're doing. I was 939 00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:57,800 Speaker 3: in college. It was like the super Bowl, the final 940 00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:06,640 Speaker 3: episode of Mash. Yeah, yes, most watched, most watched television episode. Yeah, yep, 941 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:11,040 Speaker 3: in history. What what did Robert? Where were you in college? 942 00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,880 Speaker 3: Did you all gather around the TV and watch the 943 00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:15,839 Speaker 3: final episode? Oh? 944 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:16,360 Speaker 7: Exactly? 945 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,520 Speaker 3: It was my frout house and there were more people 946 00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:25,960 Speaker 3: in that tube room than there were for the super Bowl. Great, Great, 947 00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,040 Speaker 3: that's so good. Reference. 948 00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,720 Speaker 1: That is a show very close to my heart because 949 00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:35,360 Speaker 1: Jamie Farr, who played what was it Max Klinger on 950 00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:39,120 Speaker 1: that show, like from Toledo, personally from Toledo, and like 951 00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,600 Speaker 1: talked about Toledo a lot in the show, and like 952 00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,520 Speaker 1: you can still go to restaurants around Toledo and they 953 00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,760 Speaker 1: have plenty of Mash stuff all over the walls. 954 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:50,719 Speaker 3: It's the finale still holds the record for the most 955 00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:54,000 Speaker 3: viewers for a single episode of a scripted show. Wow 956 00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:58,680 Speaker 3: got a sixty point three rating a nineteen eighty three 957 00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:03,319 Speaker 3: February twenty eight. Yes, that's now they've been knocked out 958 00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:08,239 Speaker 3: by super bowls. Sure, but for the like most watched broadcast. 959 00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,040 Speaker 3: It's super Bowl, super Bowl, super Bowl, super Bowl, super Bowl, 960 00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,759 Speaker 3: super Bowl, super Bowl, mash super Bowl, super Bowl. So 961 00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:15,680 Speaker 3: that's what it is. That's when you get when you 962 00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:17,960 Speaker 3: look at the ratings. She's Moncey Bolago. So I'm Dan 963 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,080 Speaker 3: Byer in for Cavino and Rich here. That's the finale 964 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,200 Speaker 3: on our finale is perfect way to end it. 965 00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,840 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 966 00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,600 Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox sports 967 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,560 Speaker 2: Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. 968 00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:34,719 Speaker 3: Cave. You know, and Rich here on Fox Sports Radio. 969 00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:38,000 Speaker 3: I'm Dan Byer. That's Maria Blagos here on Fox Sports Radio. 970 00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:44,680 Speaker 3: Just kidding, Monzy Belanos here, fight her on X at 971 00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:49,959 Speaker 3: Moncey Belanos. What's the name of this song? I felt 972 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:53,759 Speaker 3: like they were saying Maria a lot. Yeah, Oh, Dan 973 00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:56,600 Speaker 3: hit her up at Monci Bolognos. You can find me 974 00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:00,960 Speaker 3: at Dan Byer on Fox. Jason Stewart's here, Chris prophetis here. 975 00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:05,800 Speaker 3: We are drawing NFL preview questions out of a hat. 976 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,120 Speaker 3: You've got one, I do. We're gonna hear from Tom 977 00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:12,800 Speaker 3: Brady in a second. But Manzi's preview question is will. 978 00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,200 Speaker 4: Shador Sanders do a postgame interview for a game he 979 00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:16,040 Speaker 4: didn't play in. 980 00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:23,160 Speaker 3: M interesting, that was my question. That was that was 981 00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:28,920 Speaker 3: my question. Imagine how ridiculous that would Shadora doesn't play 982 00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,359 Speaker 3: and then you go in the locker room and there's 983 00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:33,400 Speaker 3: eight reporters around this locker. 984 00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,239 Speaker 5: Room talking to him. Yes, what do you think of this? 985 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,439 Speaker 3: What are your thoughts on the twenty four to nothing lost? 986 00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:38,880 Speaker 5: Do you think you should have gone in in the 987 00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:39,480 Speaker 5: fourth quarter? 988 00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:44,040 Speaker 3: Yeah? Do you think you will answer the question? It 989 00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:50,400 Speaker 3: seems this is a very simple null, but apparently it isn't. Again, 990 00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,640 Speaker 3: he didn't play in the game. He probably doesn't even 991 00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:53,320 Speaker 3: have to shower. 992 00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:55,960 Speaker 5: He better not. How about that? 993 00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,400 Speaker 1: He will he even be in a jersey? Will he 994 00:50:58,440 --> 00:50:59,400 Speaker 1: even be in pads? 995 00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:04,520 Speaker 5: No? He he better not. But I feel like there's 996 00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:05,280 Speaker 5: a chat. 997 00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:09,080 Speaker 1: I this this started a whole gambling segment I do 998 00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,839 Speaker 1: on the weekends. But like, and I'm gonna give you 999 00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:13,960 Speaker 1: the over on you guys, the over under on this 1000 00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,880 Speaker 1: again over under half a snap for Sarar Sanders in 1001 00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:18,719 Speaker 1: the season like. 1002 00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,640 Speaker 3: This this over, yeah, over. 1003 00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:24,759 Speaker 1: He'll play at some point. It's just it's it's fascinating 1004 00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:29,640 Speaker 1: how much attention has just been beyond the pale at this. 1005 00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,839 Speaker 3: Point, yes, which I think makes my question so much 1006 00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:38,680 Speaker 3: more ridiculous, yet somehow criky from what mons from Monzi's 1007 00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:42,080 Speaker 3: have to deal with. So you think you're saying yes, no. 1008 00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:46,879 Speaker 5: The answer should be is noll Whether there's a chance. 1009 00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,440 Speaker 6: Now, I guess. Then, I guess there is kind of 1010 00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:54,640 Speaker 6: like this uh side bar of of options you're talking about, 1011 00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:59,200 Speaker 6: like an interview from the team reporters, or even like 1012 00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:02,200 Speaker 6: a national interview. But I could see some like I 1013 00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:07,080 Speaker 6: don't know, like a pop culture website doing an interview 1014 00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,520 Speaker 6: that doesn't count, though that's not the nature of the question, 1015 00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:15,040 Speaker 6: correct Now, it does remind me of a second right, right right. 1016 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:17,920 Speaker 6: It reminds me of something I posted last week, and 1017 00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,960 Speaker 6: I don't think anyone here Chris doesn't follow me on Twitter, 1018 00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:22,879 Speaker 6: and I'll try not to take a best to that. 1019 00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:26,040 Speaker 6: And then you guys both follow me, an you didn't 1020 00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:28,120 Speaker 6: share it or like it, so I'm assuming you just 1021 00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:31,279 Speaker 6: didn't see it. I sent out a tweet. It was 1022 00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:34,600 Speaker 6: quote tweeting the story that Shador Sanders is an emergency 1023 00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:38,280 Speaker 6: three for the Browns, and I said, so his branding 1024 00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:42,759 Speaker 6: team needs to change legendary to Emergency three on all 1025 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:48,000 Speaker 6: of their merchandise. What do you guys think that's like? 1026 00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,640 Speaker 5: You're trying to do this with me? Bounce Emergency three, 1027 00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:52,800 Speaker 5: Emergency three. 1028 00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:54,640 Speaker 6: I got my Emergency three T shirt. 1029 00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,800 Speaker 1: You can get a sponsorship with emergency. 1030 00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:01,359 Speaker 3: Three of them. 1031 00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:04,120 Speaker 5: You're onto something. 1032 00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,600 Speaker 3: Now, let's talk to some Tom Brady or let's hear 1033 00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:10,239 Speaker 3: from Tom Brady. We'll be on the call Sunday for 1034 00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:14,120 Speaker 3: Fox as a Week one in the NFL season opens up. 1035 00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,200 Speaker 3: This is what the Hall it seemed to be the 1036 00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,600 Speaker 3: Hall of Fame quarterback said about what he looks for 1037 00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:19,680 Speaker 3: in other quarterbacks. 1038 00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:21,960 Speaker 7: That's what I look for all the time when a 1039 00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,839 Speaker 7: quarterbacks throws a touchdown pass, I actually watched to see 1040 00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,960 Speaker 7: who he goes and celebrates with, because what did I do? 1041 00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,919 Speaker 7: I looked for my offensive lineman every time I went 1042 00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:35,319 Speaker 7: down and celebrated in the end zone with my teammates, 1043 00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,560 Speaker 7: every time, I wanted everyone to feel. 1044 00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:39,680 Speaker 3: Like they were part of the success. 1045 00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,239 Speaker 7: I told the lineman, we're all running to the end 1046 00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,759 Speaker 7: zone and we're celebrating as a team, because I think 1047 00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:48,319 Speaker 7: that's way more intimidating than a quarterback doing his six 1048 00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,680 Speaker 7: shooter guns and pointing up in the crowd and doing 1049 00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:55,880 Speaker 7: all that other that's very self promotional, but it's not 1050 00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,879 Speaker 7: about winning, and I think winning in football is about 1051 00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,600 Speaker 7: a team, always a team attitude. 1052 00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:06,440 Speaker 3: First PFF podcast with that, does Tom Brady have a 1053 00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:08,200 Speaker 3: point when judging other quarterbacks? 1054 00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:10,799 Speaker 4: I mean, such a good point. I think he's got 1055 00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:14,319 Speaker 4: for a reason. But that word intimidating. It's interesting that 1056 00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,520 Speaker 4: he chose that word, but I understand what he's saying. 1057 00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:18,480 Speaker 5: If you're playing against the team. 1058 00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:23,319 Speaker 4: That looks like they are one team, the brotherhood is 1059 00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:27,799 Speaker 4: alive and thriving, versus individual performances of guys just wanting 1060 00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,279 Speaker 4: to toot their own horn. It is more intimidating to 1061 00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:34,040 Speaker 4: face a team like that, a complete team versus one 1062 00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:35,440 Speaker 4: guy who's trying. 1063 00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,319 Speaker 5: To get all the credit. Like I feel like you can. 1064 00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,080 Speaker 4: If I'm playing against a team in a sport and 1065 00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:45,080 Speaker 4: there's one person who seems to not be cohesive with 1066 00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,680 Speaker 4: the team, I'm gonna try to take them out. Mentally, 1067 00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,560 Speaker 4: that is the first domino to fall. Take that one out, 1068 00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:51,479 Speaker 4: and then maybe the other. 1069 00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,719 Speaker 5: Starts to fall apart. And so I totally understand that. 1070 00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,480 Speaker 3: I do look at that. I watch that I watch that. 1071 00:54:56,520 --> 00:55:00,720 Speaker 3: I watch, I watch postgame handshakes or our old buddy 1072 00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,600 Speaker 3: George Reister who used to team up with on the network. 1073 00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,600 Speaker 3: I joked that there should be a velvet rope and 1074 00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,359 Speaker 3: a red carpet for people to line up to shake 1075 00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,439 Speaker 3: Tom Brady's hand after the game, because not everybody does. 1076 00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,200 Speaker 3: He can't shake every player's hands, so like there's a 1077 00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:18,680 Speaker 3: level of and I was somewhat joking. I was joking, 1078 00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:22,560 Speaker 3: but almost not really, but in a way like okay, 1079 00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:25,480 Speaker 3: you can't just go up, Just like when Jamison Williams 1080 00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,760 Speaker 3: asked for Aaron Rodgers jersey after the last Lions Packers 1081 00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:32,680 Speaker 3: game that Rogers had, like, all right, you're not getting it. 1082 00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:34,440 Speaker 3: And second of all, you're not even close to the 1083 00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,120 Speaker 3: level of player that would get that jersey. Like I guess, 1084 00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:40,040 Speaker 3: you know, it never hurts to ask. But I'll watch that. 1085 00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:43,200 Speaker 3: I'll watch when a quarterback throws it to his teammate, 1086 00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:48,759 Speaker 3: this celebration. If there's thought to be any you know, 1087 00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,920 Speaker 3: like rift, like Josh Allen Stefan Diggs, remember when they 1088 00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,279 Speaker 3: were teammates in Buffalo and we thought that there may 1089 00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:57,040 Speaker 3: be was a fallout. If Josh Allen throws him a touchdown? 1090 00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:00,160 Speaker 3: Are they shaking hands? Are they? Are they? Buddy? Buddy? 1091 00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,160 Speaker 3: I watch those things and I'm actually surprised that Tom 1092 00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,719 Speaker 3: Brady does as well. And Doug gottliep here on the 1093 00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:08,920 Speaker 3: Network talks about how he was called out in a 1094 00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,879 Speaker 3: film review when he was playing basketball at Notre Dame 1095 00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:15,280 Speaker 3: and he wasn't cheering for his teammates on the sideline, 1096 00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:18,760 Speaker 3: and the coach circled it and said, like, why aren't 1097 00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:21,480 Speaker 3: you cheering? And it's something that he had never forgotten. 1098 00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:23,000 Speaker 3: I think it is a big deal. 1099 00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,480 Speaker 4: It is a big deal, and it is shocking to 1100 00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:27,399 Speaker 4: hear Tom Brady. Sorry, I mean to cut you off, 1101 00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:28,920 Speaker 4: Tom Brady, to say it like. 1102 00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:29,399 Speaker 5: That out loud. 1103 00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:33,040 Speaker 4: Do you also watch when somebody when a player drops 1104 00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,320 Speaker 4: a pass to see how the quarterback reacts. 1105 00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,560 Speaker 5: I also look at that too, just to see how 1106 00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:40,200 Speaker 5: frustrated the quarterback looks. 1107 00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,400 Speaker 4: Yes at times, you know, or is it just like 1108 00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:44,759 Speaker 4: all right moving on to the next play, or how 1109 00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:46,080 Speaker 4: much are they holding onto it. 1110 00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,120 Speaker 3: I look at who helps up who in an NBA game. 1111 00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:51,319 Speaker 3: I look at who shakes who's ever hand slapping five 1112 00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,600 Speaker 3: at the free throw line, all of that stuff. 1113 00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:57,960 Speaker 4: I mean you mentioned dog Doug Gottlieb's example at Notre Dame. 1114 00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:01,279 Speaker 4: Remember when Lebron broke the all time scoring record and 1115 00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:05,040 Speaker 4: then Anthony Davis was like not celebrating yet, like he 1116 00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:06,560 Speaker 4: was just off to the side, like just kind of 1117 00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,560 Speaker 4: like over it. Like that's something you we all remember 1118 00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:11,680 Speaker 4: that one. You pay attention to the little things like this. 1119 00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:15,520 Speaker 3: Yes, and that's what makes Tom Brady got Brady the goat. 1120 00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:15,759 Speaker 5: The goat. 1121 00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:18,440 Speaker 3: She's Moncey Belano. So I'm Dan Byr in for Covito 1122 00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:20,160 Speaker 3: and rich who by the way, we're in for Dan 1123 00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,280 Speaker 3: Patrick earlier today. Guys, we'll be back in their normal 1124 00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,600 Speaker 3: spot tomorrow as we get ready for Week one of 1125 00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:25,480 Speaker 3: the NFL season.