WEBVTT - Highlight Reel: The Art of Coaching 0:00:02.240 --> 0:00:06.880 A brand new highlight reel starts now with the compilation 0:00:07.040 --> 0:00:10.360 of a couple of our favorite moments from the show. 0:00:10.880 --> 0:00:15.400 That's called Now We've got Josh McDaniels on developing young quarterbacks. 0:00:15.960 --> 0:00:19.119 Developing young quarterbacks? Can you can you talk about that? 0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:21.480 You know, what's the process? Like you were a huge 0:00:21.480 --> 0:00:24.600 part of help developing Tom Brady, right, that's when you 0:00:24.640 --> 0:00:26.880 first came in two thousand and two thousand and one. Yep, 0:00:27.040 --> 0:00:30.000 you developed him and the other guys. But what it 0:00:30.840 --> 0:00:33.880 developing a quarterback? What's that process like now? And who 0:00:33.920 --> 0:00:36.159 also makes that decision? Is the head coach, is the 0:00:36.200 --> 0:00:39.519 offensive coordinator, is it, you know, the quarterback coach or 0:00:39.560 --> 0:00:41.920 is it everyone's doing it their own? Well, let's just 0:00:41.920 --> 0:00:42.159 think you. 0:00:42.360 --> 0:00:44.120 I think you have to have a plan, you know, 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:48.040 and that obviously starts from the head coach his perspective, 0:00:48.120 --> 0:00:51.680 and you have to you know, be able to agree 0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:54.200 on how you're going to kind of unveil that thing 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:58.200 to the to the player and you know, and ultimately 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:00.720 bring him along. You know, you were a young player 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:03.360 that needed to make progress every step of the way 0:01:03.920 --> 0:01:07.920 and this is no different. It's just there's so much 0:01:07.959 --> 0:01:11.200 notoriety and so much attention on the quarterback position. So 0:01:11.720 --> 0:01:13.880 if they're not talking about your arm angle, they're talking 0:01:13.880 --> 0:01:16.000 about your footwork. If they're not talking about that, they're 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:18.679 talking about your eyes or your read or how you 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:20.800 navigated the pocket. And there's a lot of things that 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:23.280 go into playing it well. But I I at the 0:01:23.400 --> 0:01:25.000 end of the day, I think you got to take 0:01:25.080 --> 0:01:28.240 the player where he's at. You know, when he comes in, 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:34.600 whether that was Castle or Garoppolo or Stidham or Brisset 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:38.679 or mac aidan O'Connell, like, you got to take the 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:41.360 player where he's at. They're all at different spots. They 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:45.800 all have been taught different things. They've all, you know, 0:01:45.920 --> 0:01:49.800 digested different amounts of information. Some have played in different 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:52.760 systems than yours. Some have played in maybe some that 0:01:52.800 --> 0:01:55.040 were a little bit more like yours. And you just 0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:56.600 got to figure out, all right, what do they know 0:01:57.360 --> 0:02:00.080 and what am I going to try to you know, 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:04.880 push forward to get him to progress the quickest. You know, 0:02:05.400 --> 0:02:07.240 I think I can get this and this done in 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:12.760 OTA's okay, great cadence play calls footwork all right, good 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:15.120 and in training camp you know, now I got to 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:17.959 get him to see different coverages, and understand defenses a 0:02:18.000 --> 0:02:21.600 little bit more. You know, protections, you know, and then 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:24.440 you know move forward, you know, ball security, and then 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:26.919 the red zone is a different animal, and third down 0:02:26.960 --> 0:02:29.200 and two minute offense. So there's a lot of things 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:31.480 that go into it, but I think it's just having 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:35.080 a really good feel for where's the player at. Yeah, 0:02:35.080 --> 0:02:37.880 you know, can't just keep throwing stuff at him. Always 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:40.680 talk about it. They have a bucket. You guys all 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:43.280 had a bucket and yours was a big bucket at 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:46.480 the end, like you could handle whatever we gave you. Well, 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:48.880 when you take a young quarterback, it's more like a cup. 0:02:49.600 --> 0:02:49.880 You know. 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:52.560 You got to put some some stuff in his cup, 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:54.720 and when it gets to the top, you got to stop, 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:56.800 you know what I mean, and then make sure that 0:02:56.880 --> 0:02:59.320 he you know, got has this and he can do 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:02.400 it well. And okay, so then when he's ready for 0:03:02.480 --> 0:03:04.440 more than you get him a bigger cup and then 0:03:04.440 --> 0:03:06.320 hopefully he ends up with a bucket and you've got 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:08.520 a bunch of stuff in there that you can do well. 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:12.240 But there's no shortcut. There's no shortcut to it. And 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:14.840 I think knowing where the players at is really important. 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:20.040 Yeah, Now some you know a lot of people have 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:22.960 been talking about, you know, the systems in the NFL. 0:03:23.000 --> 0:03:25.160 You got the West Coast system, then you have like 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:31.440 our system, the Charlie Weiss Patriot system, and they say 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:37.240 that the West Coast system is pretty much it protects 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:41.720 the quarterback, the offensive linement, help with the protections everyone, 0:03:41.760 --> 0:03:43.800 you know, everyone with the quarterback, you go where the 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:46.440 ball is supposed to go. It's step system for the receivers. 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:51.240 Is it harder to develop a quarterback in our system, 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:53.160 because that's what people are trying to say than it 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:54.720 is in the West Coast system. 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:58.080 I think it depends on the way you look at that. 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:05.800 If the goal is just to restrict the volume of 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:09.680 responsibility that you place on him right away, then it 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:13.640 certainly could be. If at the end of the day, 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:18.839 your goal is to have him understand how to handle 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:23.320 all the problems and take care of those things that 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:26.840 come up in the big games in order for him 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:30.840 to help you win them, then maybe it's worth it. 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:33.880 You know, that was always our mindset. Is basically what 0:04:33.880 --> 0:04:36.240 we're talking about here is who's going to do the 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:39.080 stuff prior to the ball being snapped? Yea, all the 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:41.040 quarterbacks have to do the same thing. Once the ball 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:44.160 is in their hand, they got to understand what happened 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:47.039 relative to the protection or the pressures. They have to 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:50.760 read the coverage, they have to identify a guy that 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:53.800 they think is open and make accurate throws and protect 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:55.719 the ball like everybody does the same thing once the 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:58.279 ball snapped. Really, what we're talking about is pre snap 0:04:58.320 --> 0:05:00.000 responsible pre snap responsibility. 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:00.480 That's it. 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:03.200 And so I always looked at it like a mountain, 0:05:03.480 --> 0:05:05.520 like at the beginning, we're at the bottom, we're trying 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:07.920 to climb it. And at the beginning when you start 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:11.039 talking to them about making the calls and setting the 0:05:11.080 --> 0:05:13.719 protections and dealing with the run game and all those 0:05:13.760 --> 0:05:16.080 things that we, you know, we taught our players how 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:19.719 to do. You know, it's it's harder because it's foreign. 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:22.679 It's not that they don't understand it, it's just different. 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:25.760 And so at the beginning, they're at the bottom of the mountain. 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:27.479 You look up and you're like, God, damn, that's a 0:05:27.520 --> 0:05:31.320 tall mountain, you know. But always felt like as we 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:33.560 went through the first year, all right, you're getting up 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:35.880 the mountain. You know it, I know it, we all 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:38.039 know it. And then once you get to the top 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:41.400 of the mountain. Now there's nothing left to climb because 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:45.280 you understand it. You understand how to manipulate the protection, 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:47.840 how to solve your issues, and prep with blood zero 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:51.640 and those kind of things, and and and just be 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:54.919 able to to do it at a high level, you know, 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:57.800 because I always thought, like, Okay, Tom, everybody knows Tom's 0:05:57.839 --> 0:06:00.240 won a lot. Well Tom did it that way. Heyton 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:02.920 did a lot too. You know, Peyton won a lot, 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:03.760 he did it that way. 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:04.120 You know. 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:07.400 I know that Pats some you know, in some way, 0:06:07.440 --> 0:06:10.080 shape or form able to handle some of those things 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:13.240 as well. I just think having the quarterback never be 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:17.800 responsible for any of that stuff. You know, there's some 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:18.720 downside to it. 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:19.240 You know. 0:06:19.640 --> 0:06:22.080 Other people might argue that that's not the case, but 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:24.200 I would say that, you know, there's there's pros and 0:06:24.200 --> 0:06:24.960 cons to both. 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:25.320 You know. 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:27.640 I love the I love the idea of having the 0:06:27.720 --> 0:06:29.720 quarterback able to understand it all. 0:06:30.200 --> 0:06:30.800 I really do. 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:33.560 Here's a clip of Matt Patricia talking the art of 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:34.760 the defensive coordinator. 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:37.320 What's the art of the d C? How do you 0:06:37.320 --> 0:06:39.800 what's your starting point of when you're preparing for a team. 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:43.919 Are you looking at players, plays, or is it changed 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:47.320 situationally for each team? Like, how do you construct what 0:06:47.360 --> 0:06:50.599 you're going to plan for that week? Because you're a 0:06:50.640 --> 0:06:52.880 game plan coach, it changes every week? How do you 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:54.880 break that in? What's the art of co d C? 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:56.840 Yeah, you know it was interesting. 0:06:56.920 --> 0:07:02.440 So being in New England obviously are fundamental background defensive philosophy, right, 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:06.159 comes from the Giants, right, nineteen eighties Bill at the Giants, 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:09.520 those great defenses there, and then you got to really understand. 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:10.560 So I had I had. 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:12.720 Two playbooks, right, we had our playbook and then I 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:14.680 had the Bible. Right, I called it the Bible because 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:17.320 that was everything like that. I I was always keeping 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:19.680 track of the history of where did all this stuff 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:21.440 come from? Because I figured if you could understand where 0:07:21.440 --> 0:07:23.920 it came from, then we would know when to installed 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:24.440 er when. 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:24.720 To use it. 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:27.600 So who made the Bible? 0:07:27.720 --> 0:07:28.960 So I did you know? 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:33.800 Copy football player? Does that make you a profit? 0:07:34.280 --> 0:07:35.680 Definitely? I mean Jesus, I am. 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:38.360 I mean I was named I am Matthews, one of 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:38.760 the prophets. 0:07:38.760 --> 0:07:43.360 He's out of here so so so yeah, so eighties right, 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:45.280 and then you have the influence of our defense from 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:48.080 Saban when Bill and Niket together at Cleveland and how 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:50.920 it mores from Cover two to Cover three, a little 0:07:50.920 --> 0:07:52.120 bit of Cover five. 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:54.600 Which was our two man nick with Cover one four, 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:57.920 and then so as we get to New England, loves 0:07:57.960 --> 0:08:01.160 it right. So as we get to New England, you know, 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:04.800 Romeo Rack is there early what that was Mangini and 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:07.160 then Dean takes over and we go all in to 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:09.560 Cover four, which was you know, that was his baby, 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:12.760 and that was great for all those years too. When 0:08:12.800 --> 0:08:14.760 Dean left, you know, Bill wanted to get back to 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:18.640 some more traditional stuff. The game was changing at this point, 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:22.960 right around this timeline, and I really think offensively, Bill 0:08:23.000 --> 0:08:24.960 had a great vision of where the game should go, 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:28.120 and it was getting away from the elevens into the 0:08:28.120 --> 0:08:33.400 mixed twelves personnel groups. But at this time, defensively we 0:08:33.440 --> 0:08:35.240 had gone back to a lot of base Cover two, 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:38.800 Cover three. We had young players playing zone because zone 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:40.120 you got more chances for turnovers. 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:42.000 You can see the quarterback, you can see the throws. 0:08:42.320 --> 0:08:45.280 Good tack we're always good tacklers, right, good tackling defense, 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:47.960 and so that's we had young guys. 0:08:47.960 --> 0:08:50.040 So that's what we were in this era. 0:08:50.160 --> 0:08:52.720 We had our mans for situational football because you got 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:55.360 to play man in situational football, red area things like that. 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:58.160 And then really as our team developed, we get into 0:08:58.200 --> 0:09:02.080 other games. You know, when we get keep to leave, 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:05.440 everything defensively changed changed, everything changed. It keeps like one 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:07.880 of my favorites ever right walks in and he's like, 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:10.080 Matty Pee's like, I got him. 0:09:10.080 --> 0:09:11.000 You figure out the rest of it. 0:09:11.080 --> 0:09:13.079 I'm like cool, Like you know, it was like, so 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:16.240 we changed, we morphed. We would always morph the defense 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:20.240 based on the talent we had. Right at this time, 0:09:20.320 --> 0:09:22.400 we're also coming out of this is actually the last 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:24.480 year of a lot of base defense. So the next 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:27.200 year after this, because of our twelve packages, you know, 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:29.480 I went into big nickel. This is where that's where 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:32.800 pat Chung really comes into. This is where Pat Chung 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:35.719 saves us for a lot of years. No, he does 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:38.480 not get enough credit for the evolution of what we 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:39.959 went to and where we were. 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:40.880 For all those years. 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:43.920 After defensively, Devin also gets moved from corner and move 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:46.200 him to safety, you know, after this because of where 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:48.040 we were. You know, Dev's like rookie. 0:09:47.800 --> 0:09:49.320 Of the Year, and why do you do that? 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:52.080 Why do we change the defense? 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:55.280 Because because you're the twelve personnel and so there's a 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:58.120 lot of twelve personnel, which means there's two tight ends, 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:01.480 but teams are still spreading people out. Correct the safety 0:10:01.520 --> 0:10:03.800 has to cover the tight end. Who's a better rout 0:10:03.880 --> 0:10:08.200 runner these days? So Patrick Chung being the physical type 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:11.720 player that could play decent against bigger or very good 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:16.000 against bigger guys. Strong physical, great run instincts. So that's 0:10:16.040 --> 0:10:18.520 why Patrick Chung was so good because he was a 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:22.079 covering safety. He wasn't a big safety, which now all 0:10:22.080 --> 0:10:25.160 the safeties looked like Patrick Chung, but at this time, 0:10:25.600 --> 0:10:27.720 you know, this is when safeties were fucking huge. 0:10:27.840 --> 0:10:32.400 Yeah still still big, still coming down there of the history. 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:35.960 So defensively, our mentality in general was how do we 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:39.400 fit the defensive structure to the So again, like people 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:41.480 are like, oh, you're a base cover two coach, and 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:43.200 I'm like, well I was when we needed to be, 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:45.400 you know, but like you saw our playbook, like we 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:47.720 had every coverage known to man in that thing, and 0:10:47.720 --> 0:10:51.079 then some we made up so or fronts and variations. 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:54.839 So with that mentality the defense, that was just our 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:57.280 mentality every week, what do we have to do? What 0:10:57.320 --> 0:10:59.559 do we have to play in order to win this game? 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:01.400 Because that's all that really mattered. It was like, it 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:03.360 doesn't matter what we do. How do we just win 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:07.080 this game? Complimentary football with the offense, with special teams 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:10.080 with defense, and who are the players we have to 0:11:10.200 --> 0:11:14.079 do that? And so it was always evolving, always changing. 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:16.880 But when you game plan an offense for for me, 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:19.880 you know, started with the quarterback, how are we gonna 0:11:19.920 --> 0:11:21.640 make this guy? You know, how we're gonna play the 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:24.520 game within the game against this guy? And then I 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:27.480 went to the offensive line. You obviously identify who are 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:28.960 the great players, who are the go to guys you 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:30.760 gotta stop. You know, who's the ball going to and 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:33.720 what situations you know, make sure you got those guys handled, 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:36.720 make sure you got him covered. But game planning affecting 0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:38.920 the quarterback was through the offensive line. How do we 0:11:38.920 --> 0:11:40.920 get pressure in his face? He's gonna step up, is 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:41.440 he gonna bail? 0:11:41.440 --> 0:11:41.960 Is he gonna move? 0:11:42.080 --> 0:11:43.120 Do we need to keep him in the pocket? Do 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:44.839 we want him out of the pocket he scramblard? Does 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:46.760 the extend all of those You got to answer all 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:50.320 of those questions, you know, as you go through the 0:11:50.320 --> 0:11:53.000 game plan, process, and then you know, you got run game, 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:55.520 you got all that in there. What packages you're gonna play? 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:57.200 How are you gonna call the game? You know, So 0:11:57.280 --> 0:11:59.560 a lot of games I would have, you know, had 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:02.640 different call sheets. So I had the main, our main 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:04.360 call sheet that everybody had, and then I would have 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:06.520 adjustment call sheets, you know, and I either have them 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:07.640 or you know. 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:08.480 People ask me all the time. 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:11.079 So I always had a notebook in you know, always 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:17.640 wore hoodie, always had pets. Yeah, good, of course, right, uh, 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:22.000 but I always had but I always had notebooks with paper, 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:25.160 you know, and I would rewrite different scripts, different series 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:27.240 coming up, you know, like we come aside. I'm like, hey, jewels, 0:12:27.480 --> 0:12:29.160 next third down call is going to be this, next 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:30.480 first down is going to be called to be ready 0:12:30.520 --> 0:12:32.200 to go in on second down and long second shore 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:33.719 we're gonna stay based. And I would write all of 0:12:33.760 --> 0:12:36.560 those out so that everybody had that during the game. 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:40.240 Now, Bill O'Brien on coaching Tom Brady to. 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:43.040 Have the opportunity to coach you know, obviously, what we 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:46.320 believe is the greatest quarterback of all time. When he 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:49.079 when he first he was out on the West Coast 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:52.280 and he came back for ot as that year, uh nine, 0:12:52.360 --> 0:12:53.520 the year, the year. 0:12:53.679 --> 0:12:55.040 Yeah. 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:57.320 He I'll never forget this. He came into my office 0:12:57.360 --> 0:12:59.880 he said, look, I want to be coached. He's like, look, 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:02.360 I don't want don't waste my time, but I want 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:04.400 to be coached. And he was right about that, and 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:07.280 I learned a lot about, you know, how he wanted 0:13:07.280 --> 0:13:09.320 to be coached, what he wanted to know. 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:11.840 Like I can remember one of my first meetings. I 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:12.600 was so prepared. 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:15.520 I had this like book of like computer reports, and 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:17.200 I gave him this. I'm like, Tom, look at this book, 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:20.520 you know, and he's like, what is this. I want 0:13:20.559 --> 0:13:23.720 one sheet. I want one sheet that tells me boom 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:27.600 boom boom, first, second down, third down, boom, fronts, pressures, 0:13:27.760 --> 0:13:30.520 red area, backed up to you know, the whole thing. 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:34.280 And I was like, oh my god. So but from 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:35.920 that point I did the one sheet and I used 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:37.760 that one sheet to this day for quarterbacks. Because he 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:39.880 wanted to be able to think quickly. He didn't want 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:44.080 a big computer report. He was a guy that if 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:46.960 you showed him that you could work with him, like 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:50.520 you you could take in his input and show him 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:53.680 that you could work together. To formulate a really good offense, 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:55.719 like then you were going to have a great relationship. 0:13:55.720 --> 0:13:57.920 And I think that's why he and I got along 0:13:57.960 --> 0:14:00.240 so well, because we had our ideas and then he 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:02.960 would come in on Tuesdays with his ideas and we 0:14:03.000 --> 0:14:06.080 would put those ideas into with ours, and you know, 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:09.480 I would put it all together and then each night 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:11.800 I would have to email it to him. And so 0:14:12.000 --> 0:14:14.120 I don't know if Josh. I think Josh probably do 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:15.720 the same thing. But like you know, he went to 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:18.160 bed early. So if it was like, you know, Tuesday 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:20.960 night for Wednesday morning, here's the game plan by eight pm, 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:23.840 here's the game plan for third down by eight pm 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:27.560 on Wednesday, you know red area eight pm on Thursday. 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:28.760 You know what I mean for the next day. 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:32.080 But that forced you to work, get your work done 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:35.680 and be prepared. And then he would email back with hey, 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:37.200 I love this play. I love this play. I don't 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:39.120 really like this play. Hey what do you think about 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:41.800 this play? And it was just that type of relationship, 0:14:41.920 --> 0:14:44.400 you know, and coaching them was it was awesome. 0:14:44.560 --> 0:14:47.240 That's really cool to hear, you know, And people don't 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:51.200 realize Tom loves being coached. I mean, Billy Oh, was 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:54.120 probably so overwhelmed jumping into that thing because when I 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:58.000 got there, they are like they already had three super Bowls. Yeah, 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:01.160 they were already the Patriots. That was like. And I 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:03.600 remember seeing him throw for the first day and I 0:15:03.640 --> 0:15:05.280 was like, Man, this motherfucker throw. 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:10.600 Next up, We've got Ernie Adams on defensive schemes against 0:15:10.640 --> 0:15:11.840 high powered offenses. 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:14.800 We did a really good job adjusting from that regular 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:17.880 season game to the super Bowl against US. I think 0:15:18.360 --> 0:15:21.280 they weren't really. I don't think they were expecting the playoffs. 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:23.720 They only had a week, so they kind of went 0:15:23.760 --> 0:15:25.800 in a little bit the same way they did the 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:30.360 regular season game, which we were ready for. What they do, 0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:34.160 do what they do? Uh and and they listen, they're good. 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:36.320 They figured it out. They started hitting the sounds. So 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:40.000 you know the pass up the seam, what do we 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:41.600 always call that pass? 0:15:41.760 --> 0:15:42.000 The sea? 0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:46.040 How about ram pass? How many times you heard this 0:15:46.120 --> 0:15:51.120 talk about rampass? Everybody the Scott right five twenty five 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:53.640 f post swing. I mean it was like staple Well 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:56.160 they started to run a ram pass against it, and 0:15:56.200 --> 0:15:58.400 they had a step on us a couple of times, 0:15:58.680 --> 0:16:01.720 and they ran like five times for five different formations, 0:16:01.760 --> 0:16:04.800 different personnel groups, and you know, they came back and 0:16:04.840 --> 0:16:05.800 tied the game up. 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:08.880 Uh, and then we went back and one and. 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:12.560 Again, but the Colts and three we I think the 0:16:12.600 --> 0:16:15.040 final score of the game was twenty six to three 0:16:15.400 --> 0:16:19.240 and the only reason it wasn't a zero was because 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:22.640 we dropped an interception in the end zone that we 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:25.280 should have had and they kicked the field goal. So 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:27.920 we held them the three points. And then Super Bowl 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:31.160 fifty three against the Rams in twenty eighteen, we hold 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:34.480 them the three points. So that was you know, those 0:16:34.520 --> 0:16:37.360 to me were three five hundred point teams, fire five 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:42.240 hundred point teams. I mean, those were masterpieces. And what 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:46.520 I remember that three game that you're going to talk 0:16:46.600 --> 0:16:49.840 to Tie about. After the game, they had, you know, 0:16:49.920 --> 0:16:53.120 on the whatever network was doing. One of their guests 0:16:53.120 --> 0:16:56.720 for the game was Mike Shanahan, coach of the Broncos, 0:16:56.880 --> 0:17:00.520 and I mean he his team had been shoot up 0:17:00.560 --> 0:17:04.200 by the Colts. I mean, they got massacred by the Colts. 0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:07.360 And Mike Shanahan went and I said, I can't believe 0:17:07.600 --> 0:17:10.719 I just saw what I saw, which I took as 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:13.880 a real you know that that's like a real comp 0:17:14.240 --> 0:17:17.560 you know, a real compliment from somebody who really knows 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:22.280 this is something special right here. But you know, I 0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:27.480 will say part of that was because I knew in 0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:29.960 the middle of November it was going to come down. 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:31.639 I was playing the Colts. 0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:34.520 So that was what it was then, That's what it was. 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:37.800 And you know what spent like, I mean, it didn't 0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:41.280 matter if we were playing, you know, the Jets in 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:42.240 a regular season game. 0:17:42.320 --> 0:17:43.639 I made a point to spend. 0:17:43.440 --> 0:17:46.560 An hour a day at least when I was studying 0:17:46.560 --> 0:17:49.320 the Colts, you know, just in the middle, just just 0:17:49.359 --> 0:17:49.960 to make sure. 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:52.720 Now, what's the study, just watching the game, watching the game, 0:17:52.840 --> 0:17:54.760 logging it, what the you know. 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:59.199 And and the thing was they would get everybody was 0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:02.600 trying to play and cover three and cover one and 0:18:02.640 --> 0:18:06.159 they kill them running up the seams. I mean you can, 0:18:07.280 --> 0:18:10.040 oh my god, it was. It was a slaughter. And 0:18:10.080 --> 0:18:14.320 so I said, we can't do this. We need to 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:17.520 go in and play cover four. We cannot get showed 0:18:17.600 --> 0:18:21.480 up in the seams. And Romeo Cornell, are defensive coordinator, 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:23.400 is one of my favorite people, said when you want 0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:26.480 to play cover three, never not against this team. 0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:27.239 Just don't do it. 0:18:27.280 --> 0:18:28.080 They will kid you. 0:18:29.640 --> 0:18:33.560 Okay, and that's what that's kind of what teams would 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:35.679 do to us because of Gronk. 0:18:35.720 --> 0:18:39.480 And so I go, this is maybe two years ago, 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:42.959 and I'm watching a Monday night game and I'm watching 0:18:43.040 --> 0:18:47.440 the simulcast with Eli and Peyton Manning and somebody's playing 0:18:47.480 --> 0:18:50.200 cover four and Peyton Manning goes, yeah, I cover four. 0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:53.879 I don't really like my incuts and my seams against that. 0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:59.240 And I'm sitting there thinking, yes, that's why we played it. 0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:03.560 Next up, you've got Josh McDaniels outlining his mindset when 0:19:03.600 --> 0:19:06.600 he calls trick plays these little details. Is that like 0:19:07.200 --> 0:19:09.480 the factor room with your play calling? Is that innate? 0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:11.600 Is that something with reps? Like where do you pick 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:14.080 up those little details when it comes into your crafts 0:19:14.080 --> 0:19:14.520 of play call? 0:19:14.880 --> 0:19:19.760 I think it's just probably experience, you know. I don't 0:19:19.800 --> 0:19:22.080 like I think when you're coming off the sideline and 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:24.640 like the defense is kind of ready for almost anything, 0:19:25.320 --> 0:19:27.920 you know, Like, I don't think that's a great time 0:19:27.960 --> 0:19:31.639 to like spring your craziest play on them all the time. 0:19:32.160 --> 0:19:34.720 I think it's almost like you run a play, you 0:19:34.800 --> 0:19:37.119 run a second play, Oh you got a first down, 0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:39.520 So they're kind of like, all right, they're just driving 0:19:39.560 --> 0:19:39.840 the ball. 0:19:39.880 --> 0:19:40.640 They're just trying to. 0:19:40.560 --> 0:19:43.600 Do the same stuff they've been doing, you know, throwing 0:19:43.680 --> 0:19:45.639 the ball here, dink and dunk, which is what I 0:19:45.680 --> 0:19:48.919 wanted him to be thinking. And they got So we 0:19:48.960 --> 0:19:52.719 get a first down and we're into a drive. The 0:19:52.720 --> 0:19:56.920 defensive coordinator he knows we're not going fast. He's into 0:19:56.920 --> 0:20:00.840 his drive now, you know what I mean, meaning meaning Deans. 0:20:01.359 --> 0:20:03.399 You know, you kind of get into a rhythm of 0:20:03.440 --> 0:20:07.119 the drive itself. Each drive is different. And so we 0:20:07.560 --> 0:20:12.760 first down, play huddle, second down, play first down, go 0:20:12.840 --> 0:20:14.639 back to the huddle, you know what I mean. So 0:20:14.720 --> 0:20:19.639 now Dean's in his rhythm too, and so again the 0:20:20.359 --> 0:20:22.199 it just I thought that was a better way to 0:20:22.240 --> 0:20:24.600 do it, honestly, than go out there and be desperate 0:20:24.640 --> 0:20:26.040 and try to hurry up and get to it. 0:20:26.560 --> 0:20:29.119 And you know, people don't realize these you know, I 0:20:29.119 --> 0:20:32.879 don't know how it's in other places, but there's a 0:20:32.920 --> 0:20:37.879 department that studies and gives everyone around the league what 0:20:37.960 --> 0:20:40.359 they're doing to our coaches, and they look at it. 0:20:40.400 --> 0:20:42.440 These guys study it so that you know, you could 0:20:42.440 --> 0:20:47.000 always see when it's the best opportunity. He's probably seen 0:20:47.000 --> 0:20:49.800 this situation go down may not be this specific trick play, 0:20:50.359 --> 0:20:52.720 but a different trick play that you know, a team 0:20:53.000 --> 0:20:55.720 off of. You know, a big play makes another big 0:20:55.760 --> 0:20:59.520 play feels desperate, you know. So these guys they're always 0:20:59.560 --> 0:21:03.080 watching the game, and that's how they get their experiences, 0:21:03.160 --> 0:21:06.560 not only through coaching it, but watching other coaches. The 0:21:06.600 --> 0:21:10.800 great coaches will use their experiences and implicate it into their. 0:21:11.480 --> 0:21:16.320 And I've made I've called enough plays and made enough 0:21:16.359 --> 0:21:19.880 mistakes when I was younger, you know, to like, all right, 0:21:19.920 --> 0:21:22.440 well that sucked, you know what I mean, Like that 0:21:22.600 --> 0:21:25.479 totally wasn't the right time to do that, you know, 0:21:25.640 --> 0:21:29.320 and you just I think learning through your failings as 0:21:29.359 --> 0:21:32.919 you're going is a helpful thing. So you have a 0:21:32.920 --> 0:21:35.960 little bit of wisdom, you know, after you've put enough 0:21:36.320 --> 0:21:38.640 pelts on the wall, you know where now you kind 0:21:38.640 --> 0:21:41.320 of know, like that's I remember not to do that 0:21:41.400 --> 0:21:44.040 because of this game. And I tried it and it backfired, 0:21:44.560 --> 0:21:46.000 you know. And the other thing I would say about 0:21:46.000 --> 0:21:49.440 this is, and you would attest to this, we practiced 0:21:49.440 --> 0:21:53.240 those things, and we didn't act like they were like 0:21:54.080 --> 0:21:57.359 so special that it was like impossible for us to 0:21:57.400 --> 0:22:00.720 succeed at them. I treated those things is like almost 0:22:00.720 --> 0:22:03.840 like a play action pass like a flea flicker or 0:22:03.880 --> 0:22:06.920 a double Like if you rep it enough, what's the difference. 0:22:06.880 --> 0:22:09.320 Like other than the ball handling? 0:22:09.400 --> 0:22:12.280 And yeah, like but I trusted you enough and we 0:22:12.480 --> 0:22:14.640 repped it enough where I was like, I didn't call 0:22:14.680 --> 0:22:17.960 it and go like this like what's gonna happen? I 0:22:18.480 --> 0:22:21.080 called it going as long as the defense is going 0:22:21.119 --> 0:22:23.800 to give it to us. I've seen us execute this 0:22:23.920 --> 0:22:26.280 many times. Look at he's got this smile, like, yeah, 0:22:26.600 --> 0:22:28.800 tell him how many times I hit it in practice? 0:22:29.560 --> 0:22:31.359 I think I overthrew him three or four times. 0:22:34.000 --> 0:22:37.399 You were gloves too, right, yeah, because he always ships 0:22:37.400 --> 0:22:38.840 on quarterbacks when they wear their gloves. 0:22:39.040 --> 0:22:40.520 Yeah, but I'm not gonna take my glove off. 0:22:40.600 --> 0:22:43.240 Well that's why that's the thing is you take it off. 0:22:43.440 --> 0:22:47.879 Then these guys Baltimore might have been perceptive enough to 0:22:47.680 --> 0:22:50.119 he's got. 0:22:50.000 --> 0:22:55.240 Michael Jackson out there gloves like lad Guerrero. Come on now. 0:22:55.760 --> 0:22:56.000 Yeah. 0:22:56.040 --> 0:22:58.280 But but to to coaches point, I think that's a 0:22:58.720 --> 0:23:00.639 that's cool that like it's not one of these like 0:23:00.960 --> 0:23:04.000 super trick plays and like crazy things. Because we were 0:23:04.040 --> 0:23:08.199 watching we did the AFC Championship and in Arrowhead with 0:23:08.320 --> 0:23:10.640 Ernie and there was a leaf licker on that drive 0:23:10.720 --> 0:23:13.439 in ot. Yeah, like it's just a regular play, Like 0:23:13.960 --> 0:23:15.040 that's a testament. 0:23:14.640 --> 0:23:16.159 To that practice. 0:23:16.520 --> 0:23:18.800 And it was like a comfort level for you as 0:23:18.840 --> 0:23:21.520 the play caller, like I don't feel like I'm about 0:23:21.520 --> 0:23:24.240 to mess the game up because I've watched us and 0:23:24.280 --> 0:23:26.840 I trust our guys enough and trust you guys to 0:23:26.920 --> 0:23:27.199 do it. 0:23:27.280 --> 0:23:28.280 So and you don't either. 0:23:28.760 --> 0:23:31.040 You're not thinking like, oh god, he called a flee flicker. 0:23:31.119 --> 0:23:33.160 You're just like, what it is? What it is? 0:23:33.560 --> 0:23:37.120 Next up. Matt Patricia on utilizing go to players. During 0:23:37.160 --> 0:23:38.480 go to plays, I. 0:23:38.400 --> 0:23:40.359 Was always looking at the offensive guys getting said who 0:23:40.400 --> 0:23:43.800 could play defense? Yeah, the offensive guys that can play defense. 0:23:44.320 --> 0:23:48.560 But once you were kind of on the team, all 0:23:48.680 --> 0:23:50.840 that stuff that you went through, I was like, that's 0:23:50.880 --> 0:23:52.720 the guy that can do it. So I always had 0:23:52.760 --> 0:23:54.040 in my head I was like, at some point, he's 0:23:54.040 --> 0:23:55.840 going to play dB for us. 0:23:55.680 --> 0:23:58.880 Which is so crazy. For two reasons. I remember when 0:23:58.880 --> 0:24:01.719 I was getting worked out, Pittsburgh worked me out as 0:24:01.760 --> 0:24:04.840 a safety in a corner when I was coming out 0:24:04.840 --> 0:24:07.800 of Kent. And then the second thing, when you told 0:24:07.880 --> 0:24:11.040 me about the Troy Brown stuff, and like you said, 0:24:11.080 --> 0:24:13.800 oh that I finally got someone that I could do 0:24:13.840 --> 0:24:17.800 this with. When I first got drafted to New England, Yeah, 0:24:18.560 --> 0:24:21.520 my agent Don ye yeah, Don Don goes to me 0:24:21.600 --> 0:24:24.600 and he goes, I have a vision, You're the next 0:24:24.640 --> 0:24:29.119 Troy Brown. I just the team's gonna it's gonna be 0:24:29.160 --> 0:24:31.680 hard for them to cut you because you're gonna Because 0:24:31.720 --> 0:24:33.480 that was the thing going into this. They had seven 0:24:33.520 --> 0:24:36.960 receivers my rookie year eight receivers. They traded for a guy, 0:24:37.040 --> 0:24:39.320 they had Raindy Moss West. One of the guys was 0:24:39.320 --> 0:24:42.720 a Special Teams captain Sam Akin. So like the roster 0:24:42.800 --> 0:24:46.159 spot was like hard, you can't get that spot. But 0:24:46.240 --> 0:24:48.480 my agent was just always say it's gonna be hard 0:24:48.480 --> 0:24:51.080 for them to cut you because you could do a lot, 0:24:50.840 --> 0:24:54.000 a lot. And it's crazy you said that fucking down's 0:24:54.080 --> 0:24:54.960 smart dude. 0:24:54.720 --> 0:24:56.560 But yeah, it was. I just and Josh, you know, 0:24:56.640 --> 0:24:58.240 Josh Boyer, he was great at all that too. So 0:24:58.280 --> 0:25:00.040 Josh was like, and I think he was on he 0:25:00.240 --> 0:25:02.680 was in that same mentality. Josh was and he saw 0:25:02.680 --> 0:25:05.879 the same thing. So you know it was Jules was 0:25:05.880 --> 0:25:07.840 going to play defense. We were gonna, we were gonna 0:25:07.840 --> 0:25:10.919 go through it. You know, I remember Troy saying I 0:25:10.920 --> 0:25:13.560 was like, long time ago. I was like, Troy, how 0:25:13.560 --> 0:25:15.320 did you He's like, well, I know most of the routes. 0:25:15.440 --> 0:25:16.800 Yeah, he's like, I run all these routes. 0:25:16.880 --> 0:25:19.000 Yeah, so I know everything inside exceptually. 0:25:19.280 --> 0:25:21.040 Yeah. 0:25:21.119 --> 0:25:23.840 Situation is so you knew the same and then situationally, 0:25:23.840 --> 0:25:25.520 you knew what we wanted to defensively, and I knew 0:25:25.520 --> 0:25:27.560 you'd learn it in a very short amount of time. 0:25:27.720 --> 0:25:30.600 So because I remember what I would do, Bill and 0:25:30.680 --> 0:25:34.160 you guys would always say, well, Bill, I would listen 0:25:34.160 --> 0:25:37.400 to the team meeting, yep, and Bill would always say 0:25:38.880 --> 0:25:43.080 gotta have it situations, the third downs, the four point 0:25:43.119 --> 0:25:47.800 plays they throw got to have it routes to got 0:25:47.800 --> 0:25:49.840 to have it players, Yeah, go to go. So if 0:25:49.880 --> 0:25:52.160 you fucking study the got to have it route, give 0:25:52.200 --> 0:25:55.320 you the list on that straight third down, and then 0:25:55.359 --> 0:25:57.920 you study the got to have it player. Like, all 0:25:57.960 --> 0:26:00.000 I would do is just hold on for dear life 0:26:00.119 --> 0:26:02.840 for the first five yards because I knew guys hated 0:26:02.880 --> 0:26:05.200 it and they just play to your leverage. 0:26:05.560 --> 0:26:08.560 Coming up next, Ernie Adams on analytics. 0:26:08.920 --> 0:26:12.399 Do you get fed up with hearing this bullshit analytics talk? Well, 0:26:12.440 --> 0:26:15.600 you know what it's like, I'm the analytic godfather. 0:26:16.160 --> 0:26:16.399 You know. 0:26:16.520 --> 0:26:19.520 For instance, there's a. 0:26:18.040 --> 0:26:21.760 H Ernie Adams analytics. I am analytics. 0:26:22.359 --> 0:26:25.400 You know, like for instance, Amen, if something. 0:26:25.160 --> 0:26:30.800 Four, we went for it as analytics. Ernie before analytics. 0:26:30.160 --> 0:26:33.440 You know, but there was if something, if somebody's got 0:26:33.480 --> 0:26:36.960 something that makes sense, you know, we're we're Like David 0:26:37.040 --> 0:26:41.280 Romer was an economist that at the University California. I mean, 0:26:41.320 --> 0:26:43.119 his wife is a critical part of you know, some 0:26:43.240 --> 0:26:47.639 presidential administrations, and he wrote the paper on why on 0:26:47.800 --> 0:26:50.119 fourth and golf from the one you really want to 0:26:50.160 --> 0:26:52.639 go for it? Well, I read the paper and you 0:26:52.680 --> 0:26:56.399 know what, this makes sense. So it's it's it's like 0:26:56.520 --> 0:27:00.760 analytics is one thing, but if it's good animnalytics, it's 0:27:00.800 --> 0:27:04.399 gonna make sense. For instance, you know this whole thing 0:27:04.440 --> 0:27:06.439 that came up the Super Bowl that was just played, 0:27:07.280 --> 0:27:10.680 and I have been waiting for this situation for three years. 0:27:11.080 --> 0:27:16.000 Somebody when they changed the rule on overtime, you know, 0:27:17.000 --> 0:27:20.439 this is totally different. And to be honest with you, 0:27:21.160 --> 0:27:23.680 they flipped the you know, the forty nine ers win 0:27:23.760 --> 0:27:27.120 the toss and my text I sent a bill right then, 0:27:27.200 --> 0:27:29.640 I said, this is the first time in the national 0:27:29.640 --> 0:27:33.119 Football League history, the right call on winning the coin 0:27:33.200 --> 0:27:35.280 toss is we want to kick. 0:27:35.960 --> 0:27:36.160 Now. 0:27:36.640 --> 0:27:39.439 You know, remember the playoff game again, you know, the 0:27:39.800 --> 0:27:42.960 overtime game in the regular season against Denver win. We 0:27:43.000 --> 0:27:46.359 took the wind. You know, this wasn't a case of, 0:27:46.400 --> 0:27:49.719 you know, we want the win that our back. We 0:27:49.760 --> 0:27:52.159 would take the chance on giving the ball to Peyton Manning. 0:27:52.400 --> 0:27:54.480 We just felt us out weighed by you know, we're 0:27:54.520 --> 0:27:57.400 playing in this for three hours. We can see what 0:27:57.440 --> 0:28:01.600 the wind is. We know the important thing is our back. Well, 0:28:01.640 --> 0:28:06.320 the Super Bowl with Kansas City and it's inside, there 0:28:06.359 --> 0:28:10.120 is no win. But to me, the call is we 0:28:10.160 --> 0:28:12.560 want to kick. We want to go on defense first. 0:28:13.000 --> 0:28:15.600 And the big reason it came up when Kansas City 0:28:15.640 --> 0:28:18.760 got the ball, you know what you need and you know, 0:28:19.280 --> 0:28:22.040 when you're in four down territory, off the way because 0:28:22.040 --> 0:28:24.440 it comes up fourth down, you can go for it. Well, 0:28:24.800 --> 0:28:26.879 if you know you're going to be going for it 0:28:26.920 --> 0:28:29.560 on fourth down, that changes the way you can call 0:28:29.640 --> 0:28:32.199 the game a first, second, and third down. And to me, 0:28:32.359 --> 0:28:35.760 that's that's the biggest you know, that's the biggest reason. 0:28:36.320 --> 0:28:39.360 And as interesting is I had never I mean, yes, 0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:43.640 Kyle Shanahan said, Okay, if it comes to a third possession, 0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:46.160 you know, and we score a week, kick a field goal, 0:28:46.200 --> 0:28:48.120 you kick field goal, I get the ball the third time, 0:28:48.600 --> 0:28:51.000 all right, then I can win it with a field goal. 0:28:51.360 --> 0:28:54.320 That's I hadn't really thought of it that way, and 0:28:54.360 --> 0:28:56.960 that's certainly a valid point, but I think it's overweighted 0:28:57.000 --> 0:28:59.880 by the fact if I'd rather have the ball second. 0:29:00.200 --> 0:29:02.840 So I know, you know, I know what I need. 0:29:03.080 --> 0:29:06.560 But to me, analytics is if it makes does it 0:29:06.640 --> 0:29:09.560 make good sense? You know, there's got to be a 0:29:09.680 --> 0:29:12.920 valid reason behind it, not just the computer told me 0:29:12.960 --> 0:29:14.880 to do. And I don't care what sports you're in. 0:29:15.240 --> 0:29:17.280 You know, it's like the whole thing three point shots 0:29:17.280 --> 0:29:21.280 in basketball. Okay, well yeah, it makes you know, it's 0:29:21.320 --> 0:29:24.600 points for possession. So if you've got somebody who can, 0:29:24.680 --> 0:29:27.640 you know, shoot forty percent shooting threes, go go ahead 0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:31.560 to shoot threes, got it, you know, But that it's 0:29:31.640 --> 0:29:35.280 it's analytics. But you know, on the court it actually 0:29:35.360 --> 0:29:37.400 makes sense like that. 0:29:37.520 --> 0:29:41.479 It's like, okay, analytics, well like. 0:29:40.800 --> 0:29:43.280 Like talking about because it's been you know, I think 0:29:43.320 --> 0:29:46.880 analytics probably used more in baseball than a football. But 0:29:47.160 --> 0:29:49.480 you know, the book I mentioned the buzzbitions. You wrote 0:29:49.480 --> 0:29:52.360 about the Cardinals and he's talking about their pitching coach, 0:29:52.440 --> 0:29:56.000 Dave Duncan. The notes he keeps, well, that's it. That's 0:29:56.080 --> 0:29:59.360 great analytics right there. You know, that's really you know, 0:29:59.480 --> 0:30:01.280 because you can and actually got to give that to 0:30:01.320 --> 0:30:04.400 a baseball player and you can apply it and use it. 0:30:04.880 --> 0:30:07.600 And that's like but again it's like if it's if 0:30:07.760 --> 0:30:10.520 you know, there's nothing as practical as a good theory. 0:30:11.160 --> 0:30:13.200 If the theory works, it's going to be practical. 0:30:13.280 --> 0:30:13.600 Do it. 0:30:14.120 --> 0:30:16.560 So David Roma wrote the book on why you should 0:30:16.560 --> 0:30:19.120 go for it on fourth and one and this makes 0:30:19.160 --> 0:30:22.520 real sense. So there must have been ten times it 0:30:22.640 --> 0:30:25.080 came up for US fourth and goal in the one. 0:30:25.200 --> 0:30:27.360 But what do you want to do? Call your best play? 0:30:27.880 --> 0:30:30.240 And we got stopped up at one time, we got 0:30:30.240 --> 0:30:33.520 stopped up at Buffalo. Okay, well, what's the national football? 0:30:33.840 --> 0:30:37.280 They're not all going to work, you know, But but 0:30:37.400 --> 0:30:40.680 it's like, you know, we had this just absolutely killed me. 0:30:40.760 --> 0:30:44.360 We're playing the Ravens in twenty nineteen. We're going into 0:30:44.400 --> 0:30:49.360 game eight, no, and we get the ball. Okay, well 0:30:49.480 --> 0:30:51.160 yeah that's going to happen too, but you know, we 0:30:51.240 --> 0:30:53.120 get the ball right towards you. If it's fourth and 0:30:53.160 --> 0:30:56.600 goal in the one end of the half and you 0:30:56.640 --> 0:30:59.080 know it, it's like Josh didn't have a play really 0:30:59.360 --> 0:31:01.680 good with If you didn't have a play, you feel good, 0:31:01.840 --> 0:31:04.160 we'll kick the field goal. But but you know, I 0:31:04.280 --> 0:31:07.240 really that was like, you know if that killed me 0:31:07.600 --> 0:31:10.160 because I you know, I know I really want to 0:31:10.200 --> 0:31:12.000 go for it, but I don't want to go for it. 0:31:12.080 --> 0:31:14.480 If you know, if the offensive coordinator, who's one of 0:31:14.520 --> 0:31:17.000 the best in the business, to have a play you likes, 0:31:17.560 --> 0:31:19.200 I don't want to go run a play just to 0:31:19.280 --> 0:31:19.720 run apply. 0:31:20.040 --> 0:31:23.000 Next up, Bill O'Brien on play calling for the four 0:31:23.120 --> 0:31:28.440 overtime Alabama Auburn game, the legendary four overtime Iron Bowl. 0:31:28.560 --> 0:31:30.760 Yeah, that was a great game. That was crazy. Anything 0:31:30.760 --> 0:31:34.200 can happen, rivalry, a game they ranked, wasn't even. 0:31:34.800 --> 0:31:36.400 It was like it was ten to three in that 0:31:36.440 --> 0:31:40.320 game and we had not done anything Auburn's defense. It 0:31:40.360 --> 0:31:42.040 was at Auburn, which is a tough place. So we 0:31:42.040 --> 0:31:45.040 got the ball back on our because Auburn screwed up 0:31:45.040 --> 0:31:47.640 the four minute kid ran out of bound, so they 0:31:47.680 --> 0:31:49.600 had to punt. We got the ball back on our 0:31:49.600 --> 0:31:51.360 own two yard line and Nick, I'll never forget Nick 0:31:51.400 --> 0:31:53.120 on the on the headset was like, Bill, we got 0:31:53.160 --> 0:31:55.040 to do something here, and I was like, yep, yes 0:31:55.080 --> 0:31:57.000 we do. It was about a minute and ten left 0:31:57.040 --> 0:32:01.360 and we went ninety eight yards Bryce Young and sent 0:32:01.400 --> 0:32:03.000 it into overtime and then we had a lot. You 0:32:03.000 --> 0:32:07.320 would have loved it because in college, after the first 0:32:07.360 --> 0:32:10.920 overtime you have to go for two score and so 0:32:11.120 --> 0:32:14.280 it was all of those Patriot bunch like boom. 0:32:14.000 --> 0:32:15.920 We saw that and they were just hit, like three 0:32:16.000 --> 0:32:18.240 or four of them. And then it carried over to 0:32:18.280 --> 0:32:20.160 this game. Well, you guys used a lot of those bunches, 0:32:20.200 --> 0:32:24.400 the Rams, the Rifles, the Texas two lane two lane 0:32:24.720 --> 0:32:31.480 two in which it makes this legendary Georgia defense have 0:32:31.560 --> 0:32:34.480 to communicate think fast. Is that what were you're doing 0:32:34.520 --> 0:32:37.000 in the middle. You're starting fast to try to slow 0:32:37.040 --> 0:32:39.320 down that d lineman. You guys were playing with tempo? 0:32:39.760 --> 0:32:41.320 Was that the game plan going in this thing? 0:32:41.400 --> 0:32:41.600 Yeah? 0:32:41.640 --> 0:32:43.360 I think I felt for us in this game. 0:32:43.640 --> 0:32:46.080 You know we Nick did a great job of this 0:32:46.160 --> 0:32:48.840 team of his teams being in great condition. We you know, 0:32:49.000 --> 0:32:51.800 much like the Patriots. There was a lot of conditioning 0:32:51.800 --> 0:32:54.360 in Alabama. I felt like we were in better condition 0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:57.640 in that game than we were than Georgia was. You know, 0:32:57.680 --> 0:33:00.360 we were able to go fast, and Georgia was very 0:33:00.360 --> 0:33:02.600 big upfront, very talented, but maybe we could you know, 0:33:02.600 --> 0:33:04.240 get him huffing and puffing a little bit and be 0:33:04.280 --> 0:33:05.920 able to you know, sneak a couple of plays in 0:33:05.960 --> 0:33:06.360 there on him. 0:33:06.360 --> 0:33:07.560 And that was the game plan going in. 0:33:07.880 --> 0:33:10.760 Josh McDaniels is up next, diving into preparing for an 0:33:10.760 --> 0:33:12.960 offense when facing Ed Reed and Ray Lewis. 0:33:13.320 --> 0:33:17.120 I know this game isn't it didn't have Ray or Ed, 0:33:17.200 --> 0:33:20.720 but can you can you talk to the listener about 0:33:20.720 --> 0:33:22.960 having to try to prepare against those two guys. 0:33:23.200 --> 0:33:27.600 Yeah, that's I'm sure like when you talk about a 0:33:27.680 --> 0:33:33.080 defensive coordinator trying to get ready for Manning or Brady, 0:33:33.160 --> 0:33:36.240 you know, those guys that were really intelligent and could 0:33:36.320 --> 0:33:38.040 play the game in their mind too. 0:33:39.160 --> 0:33:40.200 That's what that. 0:33:40.120 --> 0:33:43.880 Felt like when you were getting ready to play read Lewis. 0:33:44.240 --> 0:33:50.280 Suggs to me, there's not that many teams that I've 0:33:50.400 --> 0:33:53.479 coached against where I would say that there was the 0:33:53.600 --> 0:33:57.240 volume of players that they had at one time that 0:33:57.360 --> 0:34:02.160 were as instrumental and terms of knowing what was coming, 0:34:02.360 --> 0:34:07.960 seeing the formation overplaying tendencies, being able to adjust, getting 0:34:07.960 --> 0:34:09.440 their teammates in the right position. 0:34:10.040 --> 0:34:11.239 It was really. 0:34:11.400 --> 0:34:14.480 Hard to you know, because as a coach, you want 0:34:14.480 --> 0:34:16.479 to prepare your team as best you can. You also 0:34:16.520 --> 0:34:20.680 want to try to scheme some success. So it's not 0:34:20.840 --> 0:34:23.560 like make you know, good luck jewels, you know, get 0:34:23.560 --> 0:34:26.359 out there and get them on every play. Like there's 0:34:26.400 --> 0:34:28.520 definitely place where it's like, all right, jewels, you're gonna 0:34:28.560 --> 0:34:31.000 got to come through here, and you came through you 0:34:31.000 --> 0:34:33.160 know a ton. It's just you want to try to 0:34:33.200 --> 0:34:35.720 help your players as much as you can by giving 0:34:35.760 --> 0:34:38.959 them something that's like, Okay, this is going to work, 0:34:39.480 --> 0:34:42.080 and it's it's going to not trick the defense, but 0:34:42.120 --> 0:34:45.640 there's gonna be an element foreshadowing. There's gonna be a 0:34:45.680 --> 0:34:48.600 little you know, a little you know where it's simpler 0:34:49.040 --> 0:34:51.319 to have some success. And it was hard against them. 0:34:51.880 --> 0:34:55.800 It just wasn't that was not simple. Yeah, it wasn't simple. 0:34:55.840 --> 0:35:00.239 I just remember anytime we'd play ed Reed or bray Lewis, 0:35:00.480 --> 0:35:03.520 Bill would show like a twenty play cut up on 0:35:03.960 --> 0:35:06.920 just both of those. There'd be a thirty minute team 0:35:07.000 --> 0:35:11.240 presentation like to start the day of just a highlight 0:35:11.320 --> 0:35:14.439 of these two. This guy will fucking blow you up, 0:35:14.640 --> 0:35:17.919 Like just that kind of shit. Yeah, oh cover three, 0:35:17.960 --> 0:35:20.440 that's what you thought, and like Edward agreed to be 0:35:20.480 --> 0:35:21.839 in the second, you know what I mean. 0:35:21.960 --> 0:35:24.680 Like his favorite thing to say to us was that 0:35:24.920 --> 0:35:28.239 they don't need to play with safety defense because they 0:35:28.280 --> 0:35:30.400 just played post safety and ed covers both sides of 0:35:30.440 --> 0:35:32.600 the field and it may and it like got in 0:35:32.640 --> 0:35:35.080 your head as like I'm like, you know, as a coach, 0:35:35.120 --> 0:35:37.440 you're like, oh, man, like can we throw it back 0:35:37.440 --> 0:35:38.000 there or no? 0:35:38.120 --> 0:35:38.359 Ever? 0:35:38.760 --> 0:35:40.759 You know what I mean? Like I remember Tom, like 0:35:40.760 --> 0:35:43.920 we'd have conversations and it was always part of the conversation. 0:35:44.360 --> 0:35:47.200 But that that's that's a tribute to the greatness of 0:35:47.239 --> 0:35:49.600 the player. Yeah, because when you're looking at him going 0:35:49.960 --> 0:35:53.440 he can cover everything back there and you're thinking about that, 0:35:53.440 --> 0:35:56.560 that makes you question whether or not you know, you 0:35:56.600 --> 0:35:57.320 can do something. 0:35:57.680 --> 0:35:59.960 Oh yeah, Bill loved ed Reid, didn't he like just 0:36:00.040 --> 0:36:00.799 loved loved him. 0:36:00.840 --> 0:36:03.440 Where does he rank on the all time Mount Rushmore 0:36:03.480 --> 0:36:06.880 of like guys that weren't Patriots that Bill loved high. 0:36:07.280 --> 0:36:08.879 I was gonna say, I always, I mean, I would 0:36:08.880 --> 0:36:09.359 always hear. 0:36:09.320 --> 0:36:12.239 That that weren't Patriots that he didn't coach. There's a 0:36:12.280 --> 0:36:18.200 caveat there. Lawrence Taylor would be there is no Mount Rushmore. Okay, 0:36:18.360 --> 0:36:20.840 there's Lawrence and then then there's the mountain. 0:36:22.239 --> 0:36:23.200 Yeah that's. 0:36:25.040 --> 0:36:27.759 Ed Reed is he's on He's in He's in the 0:36:27.760 --> 0:36:28.960 Mount Rushmore. 0:36:29.320 --> 0:36:30.399 Is there anybody else in there? 0:36:30.840 --> 0:36:35.959 Yeah? I mean Ed was Ed was such like Troy. 0:36:36.200 --> 0:36:39.080 They were different players. Edred was a completely different player 0:36:39.080 --> 0:36:42.560 than Troy. You know, we ended well, hell, we ended 0:36:42.640 --> 0:36:44.720 up with a lot of the guys that he loved, 0:36:45.600 --> 0:36:50.520 Rodney Junior. It was like, if we loved him enough, 0:36:50.600 --> 0:36:53.560 we would try to get him like Randy. But like 0:36:53.600 --> 0:36:56.400 I'm just saying, like there was some show there's a. 0:36:59.160 --> 0:37:01.359 All the Mike clips with them talking shit to each 0:37:01.360 --> 0:37:03.240 other pregame. Well, it's fucking yeah. 0:37:04.200 --> 0:37:05.080 Yeah he's something. 0:37:05.160 --> 0:37:08.359 But that's that's what happened. I love that, like, you know, 0:37:08.400 --> 0:37:10.280 like you you you like him enough. 0:37:10.840 --> 0:37:14.400 Next up, Ernie Adams on anticipation beating reaction. 0:37:14.920 --> 0:37:21.240 We're playing the the Dolphins. It's probably around two thy eleven. 0:37:21.280 --> 0:37:25.239 So because Brian Dayball, of course, was he was with 0:37:25.320 --> 0:37:28.839 us for a number years, was the offensive coordinator. And 0:37:28.880 --> 0:37:32.120 I said what's Brian going to do? And they had 0:37:32.200 --> 0:37:35.759 the throwback to the quarterback off the shotgun. So we 0:37:35.920 --> 0:37:39.640 ran that and practiced and people are, what's well, they 0:37:39.760 --> 0:37:42.680 ran exactly that play in the game and the fact 0:37:42.760 --> 0:37:45.239 that you know we had seen it meant that we 0:37:45.280 --> 0:37:48.520 could react to it just in time, you know, to 0:37:48.760 --> 0:37:53.000 to make the play on defense, because the stuff is 0:37:53.040 --> 0:37:57.160 happening so fast. If you got to think, oh, it 0:37:57.360 --> 0:37:59.640 just went buy me, you got to you know, you 0:37:59.719 --> 0:38:02.239 gotta be able to anticipate. In fact, one of the 0:38:02.320 --> 0:38:06.239 great the great lines for coaching football was somebody I 0:38:06.280 --> 0:38:09.560 have a tremendous respect for Tom Landry who would say, 0:38:09.840 --> 0:38:14.800 anticipation beat reaction every time you think ahead of that. Hey, 0:38:15.200 --> 0:38:16.600 we know this is the situation. 0:38:17.080 --> 0:38:18.719 This is what we got to watch out for. 0:38:19.600 --> 0:38:21.680 And that just makes a world of difference than just 0:38:21.719 --> 0:38:23.000 being out there playing, oh. 0:38:22.840 --> 0:38:24.160 My god, the play just went by me. 0:38:24.600 --> 0:38:27.160 And how You've seen a lot of guys they're always 0:38:27.200 --> 0:38:30.520 half a step light, and that's just that doesn't work. 0:38:30.800 --> 0:38:33.480 That's what I try to explain to people, like when 0:38:33.480 --> 0:38:35.560 they ask what was your guys day to day like, 0:38:35.640 --> 0:38:37.920 and I'd be like, oh, well, we'd walk through plays, 0:38:38.000 --> 0:38:40.960 we'd walk through the walkthroughs, and we'd go to a 0:38:41.120 --> 0:38:44.480 built in drill for that specific play, take it to 0:38:44.520 --> 0:38:47.160 a seven on seven. Then do a team and we'd 0:38:47.160 --> 0:38:51.400 have all these reps and you'd run thirty new plays, 0:38:51.400 --> 0:38:54.640 but you'd rep them four or five times, and guys 0:38:54.640 --> 0:38:57.919 would bitch and complain, bitch and complain. But then when 0:38:57.960 --> 0:39:00.880 you when it came to game day, like Ernie said, 0:39:01.120 --> 0:39:03.719 it's in your subconscious. It's built in your subconscious. So 0:39:03.800 --> 0:39:06.360 you react and you've seen the play, it becomes deja 0:39:06.440 --> 0:39:09.239 vu on this technique. This happens, Oh, I see this guy. 0:39:09.480 --> 0:39:11.560 I saw it in practice. I saw it in the walkthrough, 0:39:12.160 --> 0:39:15.279 and it allows you to play fast. And that's and 0:39:15.320 --> 0:39:18.920 that's something that I always tell everyone. What made our 0:39:18.960 --> 0:39:23.879 teams was our practice and our ability to really take 0:39:23.960 --> 0:39:26.640 those meetings. I mean that's hard to get, you know, 0:39:27.239 --> 0:39:31.880 thirty guys to really buy in and go over plays 0:39:31.920 --> 0:39:34.839 and plays and plays. But that's what made us us. 0:39:35.000 --> 0:39:36.000 That's what made us us. 0:39:36.080 --> 0:39:40.480 And you know, I think, you know, probably our best, 0:39:40.880 --> 0:39:45.040 our best ninety minutes of football was Super Bowl fifty 0:39:45.040 --> 0:39:45.839 one against. 0:39:45.520 --> 0:39:48.520 The faulcon Bill O'Brien up next, talking about coaching the 0:39:48.560 --> 0:39:50.560 SEC championship under Nick Saban. 0:39:50.800 --> 0:39:53.040 You're the offensive coordinator, you put in the game plan, 0:39:53.040 --> 0:39:56.360 We're gonna you probably present to Nick, We're probably we 0:39:56.440 --> 0:39:58.799 gotta go fastest, slow this d line down, make them 0:39:58.840 --> 0:40:01.560 communicate with a lot of our our formations, our bunches. 0:40:01.760 --> 0:40:06.400 When it's a slow first quarter, are you making adjustments 0:40:06.440 --> 0:40:08.200 to the game plan or are you just sticking with 0:40:08.280 --> 0:40:10.600 the game plan. You guys are executing better. Yeah, no, 0:40:10.719 --> 0:40:12.680 we we had to adjust. It was it actually was 0:40:12.719 --> 0:40:15.120 ten nothing. They went up ten nothing, but the second 0:40:15.200 --> 0:40:16.600 quarter you got there was fireworks. 0:40:16.760 --> 0:40:19.840 Yeah, fireworks. We did adjust. We we we went to 0:40:21.320 --> 0:40:23.840 my recollection is we did. We were going to struggle 0:40:23.840 --> 0:40:25.680 to run the ball. So we put the ball basically 0:40:25.719 --> 0:40:28.000 in Bryce's hands and we had, like I said, two 0:40:28.040 --> 0:40:31.000 good receivers, good tight end and even the backs out 0:40:31.000 --> 0:40:32.400 of the back for were good in the passing game, 0:40:32.480 --> 0:40:33.600 so you could check it down to them and they 0:40:33.640 --> 0:40:36.279 were gonna make yards. So we we we knew like, look, man, 0:40:36.680 --> 0:40:38.680 we're gonna have to really throw the football here to 0:40:38.719 --> 0:40:39.360 win this game. 0:40:39.520 --> 0:40:42.040 We hit Taffy for like an eighty yard touchdown. 0:40:42.200 --> 0:40:44.200 Yeah, so we had to clear out with the toggle 0:40:44.280 --> 0:40:46.439 with the free route and we hit the free route 0:40:46.480 --> 0:40:49.320 I think for eighty yard touchdown to Jamison Williams. 0:40:49.360 --> 0:40:49.920 I think it was so. 0:40:50.360 --> 0:40:53.000 And then we came in at halftime, we said, hey, 0:40:53.120 --> 0:40:53.879 they're sitting on something. 0:40:54.080 --> 0:40:56.880 The taffy's at the bunch Yeah, yeah, the cross. Yeah. 0:40:57.120 --> 0:40:58.759 Was he the second guy or the first guy? He 0:40:58.960 --> 0:41:01.680 was the he was a toggle runner, Okay, he was 0:41:01.719 --> 0:41:04.440 the top guy. Wow. So then we there's no one 0:41:04.480 --> 0:41:06.879 near him. They blew it. It was a communication thing 0:41:06.920 --> 0:41:09.760 once again with those bunches motioned to it. Yeah. Yeah. 0:41:09.800 --> 0:41:13.120 And then in the second half we knew we could 0:41:13.120 --> 0:41:16.720 double move him, so we said if we saw cover four, 0:41:17.040 --> 0:41:19.520 we were gonna give Jmo a curl go because the 0:41:19.560 --> 0:41:22.040 safety was jumping the hell out of the curl. Yeah, 0:41:22.200 --> 0:41:24.960 and so Bryce he pumped him and he ran a 0:41:24.960 --> 0:41:27.239 curl going. He threw it and we had like a 0:41:27.280 --> 0:41:29.239 sixty yard I think it was a fifty five yard 0:41:29.239 --> 0:41:30.880 bomb to yeah in the third quarter. 0:41:31.239 --> 0:41:31.439 Yeah. 0:41:31.440 --> 0:41:33.080 I think that was the first drive of the of 0:41:33.120 --> 0:41:35.040 the third of the second half, and that that kind 0:41:35.080 --> 0:41:37.160 of helped us a big That was a big time play. 0:41:37.400 --> 0:41:39.880 Yeah. So how how how are you guys? What's the 0:41:40.000 --> 0:41:43.279 halftime like with with the sabing, are you guys in this. 0:41:43.960 --> 0:41:46.839 You know, halftime in the in college is a little 0:41:46.880 --> 0:41:49.280 bit longer, you know, in the eight Yeah, it's probably 0:41:49.280 --> 0:41:51.560 more like fifteen twenty minutes, whereas in the pros it's. 0:41:51.480 --> 0:41:55.160 What twelve twelve, So unless you're in the super Bowl 0:41:55.200 --> 0:41:57.200 or twenty yeah, then where it's longer, Yeah, then you 0:41:57.239 --> 0:41:58.480 can take a nap. 0:41:58.600 --> 0:42:03.000 Yeah, but yeah, so yeah, we definitely came in and 0:42:03.120 --> 0:42:05.480 you know, he you know, Nick's very intense, so he 0:42:05.560 --> 0:42:06.520 was like, look, what are we doing? 0:42:06.680 --> 0:42:07.480 How are we going to do this? 0:42:07.560 --> 0:42:10.160 And but Nick also sees the game and I can 0:42:10.239 --> 0:42:12.560 remember distinctly he's saying like, hey, look, we're gonna have 0:42:12.600 --> 0:42:14.719 to throw the battle win this game. And so we 0:42:14.800 --> 0:42:16.759 just made sure we had our best passes ready to go. 0:42:16.800 --> 0:42:19.760 We had a couple new wrinkles we put in at halftime, 0:42:19.840 --> 0:42:21.080 like hey, we're going to run this this way. 0:42:21.080 --> 0:42:23.359 And these kids, the kids that were playing for. 0:42:23.320 --> 0:42:25.600 Us, were very very smart football players, you know, so 0:42:25.600 --> 0:42:27.360 they could They're like, no problem, coach, we got that. 0:42:27.520 --> 0:42:29.640 And that's kind of what halftime was like. 0:42:29.719 --> 0:42:31.360 And then once you guys go out and score and 0:42:31.520 --> 0:42:33.520 have that big play in the third quarter. It started 0:42:33.520 --> 0:42:35.879 off that's when you that momentum started kicking over there. 0:42:36.320 --> 0:42:38.520 As a play caller, how do you are you just 0:42:38.640 --> 0:42:41.560 like keep it going because you guys started, you know, 0:42:41.600 --> 0:42:43.360 there was a pick six. You guys are starting to 0:42:43.360 --> 0:42:46.320 blow them out. Now, what was the mentality on the 0:42:46.360 --> 0:42:48.239 play calling? Like are we trying to run this thing 0:42:48.239 --> 0:42:50.680 down or are we trying to fucking score when you 0:42:50.719 --> 0:42:51.360 got into. 0:42:51.120 --> 0:42:53.440 The fourth quarter of this game, like that pick six? 0:42:53.560 --> 0:42:56.560 After that pick six, I can that was Jordan Battle. Yeah, 0:42:57.040 --> 0:42:59.120 we took that back. I think after that when it 0:42:59.160 --> 0:43:01.279 was thirty eight to seven team, I think you know, 0:43:01.360 --> 0:43:03.399 Nick was in control of that. He would tell us like, hey, 0:43:03.480 --> 0:43:05.880 let's let's uh, you know, the millions the clock and 0:43:06.320 --> 0:43:07.879 hand the ball off and see if we can get 0:43:07.960 --> 0:43:09.520 you know, at least run it twice and then try 0:43:09.520 --> 0:43:10.799 to get it on third down with a pass. 0:43:10.880 --> 0:43:14.960 Maybe Matt Patricia is up next talking about strategy versus 0:43:15.000 --> 0:43:15.640 Mike Shanning. 0:43:15.840 --> 0:43:17.719 Two thousand and six, we're playing Denver. We had the 0:43:17.800 --> 0:43:20.719 China Bowl. There's there's it's painted on the field, you 0:43:20.760 --> 0:43:23.000 know that, all of it. We had jerseys and Chinese 0:43:23.040 --> 0:43:25.760 business cards. It was crazy. We were going to China. 0:43:26.520 --> 0:43:28.960 So that game we played Denver, and I remember that 0:43:29.040 --> 0:43:32.680 game specifically because we're playing Mike Shanahan and we're ready 0:43:32.680 --> 0:43:33.279 for the zone team. 0:43:33.320 --> 0:43:34.120 We're ready for the zones. 0:43:34.160 --> 0:43:36.080 And so all week I've got Brew and Junior in 0:43:36.120 --> 0:43:38.680 my linebackers, you know, and I'm telling him like, look, 0:43:38.680 --> 0:43:40.360 we're going to creep the line of scrimmage. You know, 0:43:40.360 --> 0:43:42.480 we used to play base defense, you know, three four, 0:43:43.000 --> 0:43:44.359 We're gonna move up to two and a half yards 0:43:44.360 --> 0:43:45.600 off the line because we got to go press these 0:43:45.600 --> 0:43:46.960 guards right now. We got to get them off of 0:43:47.120 --> 0:43:49.680 the defensive line. Vince and those guys tie and we 0:43:49.760 --> 0:43:51.919 got to get downhill. Well, Mike went to the whole 0:43:51.920 --> 0:43:54.680 power gap you know, duo run game and it was 0:43:54.719 --> 0:43:55.399 all down blocks. 0:43:55.560 --> 0:43:57.200 What is power gap? Due? 0:43:57.480 --> 0:43:59.680 So all kind of the same deal, right, good, good question. 0:43:59.719 --> 0:44:01.080 Good question depends on the side. 0:44:00.920 --> 0:44:04.080 Of the boys. If you're getting in. 0:44:04.160 --> 0:44:07.520 The same direction. Now we go to the gap, the 0:44:07.640 --> 0:44:08.800 duo or the. 0:44:08.680 --> 0:44:11.439 Power double teams everywhere, double teams all along Stord. 0:44:11.520 --> 0:44:12.439 We're trying to move body. 0:44:12.480 --> 0:44:14.360 So we're two on one. 0:44:15.160 --> 0:44:18.080 It's six versus three hundred, Yeah, six hundred vers three 0:44:18.080 --> 0:44:19.600 on moving the line of scrimmage. 0:44:19.880 --> 0:44:20.239 Love it. 0:44:20.600 --> 0:44:23.439 So instead of pressing the line of scrimmage. We actually 0:44:23.560 --> 0:44:25.080 linebacker wise, we got a stack. We got to get 0:44:25.080 --> 0:44:27.760 over the top, pull the double teams off. Well, Junior, 0:44:27.920 --> 0:44:30.160 you know who is kind of we were in the system. 0:44:30.200 --> 0:44:32.360 He's running through. And so we got gashed in the 0:44:32.440 --> 0:44:33.600 run game. I mean I think we won. 0:44:33.920 --> 0:44:34.440 We gosh. 0:44:34.520 --> 0:44:36.080 And so now we got to go in Monday to 0:44:36.120 --> 0:44:38.640 Bill's office and we got to go to the tape 0:44:38.640 --> 0:44:39.440 and it was not pretty. 0:44:39.520 --> 0:44:40.200 It was not good. 0:44:40.200 --> 0:44:40.480 We had. 0:44:40.480 --> 0:44:42.680 It was a very long meeting. I've got Junior say 0:44:42.719 --> 0:44:46.200 out Teddy, Bruce, Ki, myself, Bill killing us because we 0:44:46.200 --> 0:44:48.960 couldn't fit the runs power. It's not zone. We practice 0:44:49.040 --> 0:44:51.200 zone all week, you know, ready for the Shanahan stretch. 0:44:51.920 --> 0:44:54.600 Thanks for listening. Remember to tune in every Tuesday for 0:44:54.640 --> 0:44:57.520 a brand new episode and every Sunday for another Games 0:44:57.560 --> 0:44:58.440 with Names Highlight Day.