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Speaker 2: That's called Now We've got Josh McDaniels on developing young quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: Developing young quarterbacks? Can you can you talk about that?
Speaker 1: You know, what's the process? Like you were a huge
Speaker 1: part of help developing Tom Brady, right, that's when you
Speaker 1: first came in two thousand and two thousand and one. Yep,
Speaker 1: you developed him and the other guys. But what it
Speaker 1: developing a quarterback? What's that process like now? And who
Speaker 1: also makes that decision? Is the head coach, is the
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, is it, you know, the quarterback coach or
Speaker 1: is it everyone's doing it their own? Well, let's just
Speaker 1: think you.
Speaker 3: I think you have to have a plan, you know,
Speaker 3: and that obviously starts from the head coach his perspective,
Speaker 3: and you have to you know, be able to agree
Speaker 3: on how you're going to kind of unveil that thing
Speaker 3: to the to the player and you know, and ultimately
Speaker 3: bring him along. You know, you were a young player
Speaker 3: that needed to make progress every step of the way
Speaker 3: and this is no different. It's just there's so much
Speaker 3: notoriety and so much attention on the quarterback position. So
Speaker 3: if they're not talking about your arm angle, they're talking
Speaker 3: about your footwork. If they're not talking about that, they're
Speaker 3: talking about your eyes or your read or how you
Speaker 3: navigated the pocket. And there's a lot of things that
Speaker 3: go into playing it well. But I I at the
Speaker 3: end of the day, I think you got to take
Speaker 3: the player where he's at. You know, when he comes in,
Speaker 3: whether that was Castle or Garoppolo or Stidham or Brisset
Speaker 3: or mac aidan O'Connell, like, you got to take the
Speaker 3: player where he's at. They're all at different spots. They
Speaker 3: all have been taught different things. They've all, you know,
Speaker 3: digested different amounts of information. Some have played in different
Speaker 3: systems than yours. Some have played in maybe some that
Speaker 3: were a little bit more like yours. And you just
Speaker 3: got to figure out, all right, what do they know
Speaker 3: and what am I going to try to you know,
Speaker 3: push forward to get him to progress the quickest. You know,
Speaker 3: I think I can get this and this done in
Speaker 3: OTA's okay, great cadence play calls footwork all right, good
Speaker 3: and in training camp you know, now I got to
Speaker 3: get him to see different coverages, and understand defenses a
Speaker 3: little bit more. You know, protections, you know, and then
Speaker 3: you know move forward, you know, ball security, and then
Speaker 3: the red zone is a different animal, and third down
Speaker 3: and two minute offense. So there's a lot of things
Speaker 3: that go into it, but I think it's just having
Speaker 3: a really good feel for where's the player at. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, can't just keep throwing stuff at him. Always
Speaker 3: talk about it. They have a bucket. You guys all
Speaker 3: had a bucket and yours was a big bucket at
Speaker 3: the end, like you could handle whatever we gave you. Well,
Speaker 3: when you take a young quarterback, it's more like a cup.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: You got to put some some stuff in his cup,
Speaker 3: and when it gets to the top, you got to stop,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, and then make sure that
Speaker 3: he you know, got has this and he can do
Speaker 3: it well. And okay, so then when he's ready for
Speaker 3: more than you get him a bigger cup and then
Speaker 3: hopefully he ends up with a bucket and you've got
Speaker 3: a bunch of stuff in there that you can do well.
Speaker 3: But there's no shortcut. There's no shortcut to it. And
Speaker 3: I think knowing where the players at is really important.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Now some you know a lot of people have
Speaker 1: been talking about, you know, the systems in the NFL.
Speaker 1: You got the West Coast system, then you have like
Speaker 1: our system, the Charlie Weiss Patriot system, and they say
Speaker 1: that the West Coast system is pretty much it protects
Speaker 1: the quarterback, the offensive linement, help with the protections everyone,
Speaker 1: you know, everyone with the quarterback, you go where the
Speaker 1: ball is supposed to go. It's step system for the receivers.
Speaker 1: Is it harder to develop a quarterback in our system,
Speaker 1: because that's what people are trying to say than it
Speaker 1: is in the West Coast system.
Speaker 3: I think it depends on the way you look at that.
Speaker 3: If the goal is just to restrict the volume of
Speaker 3: responsibility that you place on him right away, then it
Speaker 3: certainly could be. If at the end of the day,
Speaker 3: your goal is to have him understand how to handle
Speaker 3: all the problems and take care of those things that
Speaker 3: come up in the big games in order for him
Speaker 3: to help you win them, then maybe it's worth it.
Speaker 3: You know, that was always our mindset. Is basically what
Speaker 3: we're talking about here is who's going to do the
Speaker 3: stuff prior to the ball being snapped? Yea, all the
Speaker 3: quarterbacks have to do the same thing. Once the ball
Speaker 3: is in their hand, they got to understand what happened
Speaker 3: relative to the protection or the pressures. They have to
Speaker 3: read the coverage, they have to identify a guy that
Speaker 3: they think is open and make accurate throws and protect
Speaker 3: the ball like everybody does the same thing once the
Speaker 3: ball snapped. Really, what we're talking about is pre snap
Speaker 3: responsible pre snap responsibility.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 3: And so I always looked at it like a mountain,
Speaker 3: like at the beginning, we're at the bottom, we're trying
Speaker 3: to climb it. And at the beginning when you start
Speaker 3: talking to them about making the calls and setting the
Speaker 3: protections and dealing with the run game and all those
Speaker 3: things that we, you know, we taught our players how
Speaker 3: to do. You know, it's it's harder because it's foreign.
Speaker 3: It's not that they don't understand it, it's just different.
Speaker 3: And so at the beginning, they're at the bottom of the mountain.
Speaker 3: You look up and you're like, God, damn, that's a
Speaker 3: tall mountain, you know. But always felt like as we
Speaker 3: went through the first year, all right, you're getting up
Speaker 3: the mountain. You know it, I know it, we all
Speaker 3: know it. And then once you get to the top
Speaker 3: of the mountain. Now there's nothing left to climb because
Speaker 3: you understand it. You understand how to manipulate the protection,
Speaker 3: how to solve your issues, and prep with blood zero
Speaker 3: and those kind of things, and and and just be
Speaker 3: able to to do it at a high level, you know,
Speaker 3: because I always thought, like, Okay, Tom, everybody knows Tom's
Speaker 3: won a lot. Well Tom did it that way. Heyton
Speaker 3: did a lot too. You know, Peyton won a lot,
Speaker 3: he did it that way.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I know that Pats some you know, in some way,
Speaker 3: shape or form able to handle some of those things
Speaker 3: as well. I just think having the quarterback never be
Speaker 3: responsible for any of that stuff. You know, there's some
Speaker 3: downside to it.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: Other people might argue that that's not the case, but
Speaker 3: I would say that, you know, there's there's pros and
Speaker 3: cons to both.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I love the I love the idea of having the
Speaker 3: quarterback able to understand it all.
Speaker 1: I really do.
Speaker 2: Here's a clip of Matt Patricia talking the art of
Speaker 2: the defensive coordinator.
Speaker 1: What's the art of the d C? How do you
Speaker 1: what's your starting point of when you're preparing for a team.
Speaker 1: Are you looking at players, plays, or is it changed
Speaker 1: situationally for each team? Like, how do you construct what
Speaker 1: you're going to plan for that week? Because you're a
Speaker 1: game plan coach, it changes every week? How do you
Speaker 1: break that in? What's the art of co d C?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know it was interesting.
Speaker 5: So being in New England obviously are fundamental background defensive philosophy, right,
Speaker 5: comes from the Giants, right, nineteen eighties Bill at the Giants,
Speaker 5: those great defenses there, and then you got to really understand.
Speaker 4: So I had I had.
Speaker 5: Two playbooks, right, we had our playbook and then I
Speaker 5: had the Bible. Right, I called it the Bible because
Speaker 5: that was everything like that. I I was always keeping
Speaker 5: track of the history of where did all this stuff
Speaker 5: come from? Because I figured if you could understand where
Speaker 5: it came from, then we would know when to installed
Speaker 5: er when.
Speaker 4: To use it.
Speaker 1: So who made the Bible?
Speaker 4: So I did you know?
Speaker 1: Copy football player? Does that make you a profit?
Speaker 4: Definitely? I mean Jesus, I am.
Speaker 5: I mean I was named I am Matthews, one of
Speaker 5: the prophets.
Speaker 6: He's out of here so so so yeah, so eighties right,
Speaker 6: and then you have the influence of our defense from
Speaker 6: Saban when Bill and Niket together at Cleveland and how
Speaker 6: it mores from Cover two to Cover three, a little
Speaker 6: bit of Cover five.
Speaker 5: Which was our two man nick with Cover one four,
Speaker 5: and then so as we get to New England, loves
Speaker 5: it right. So as we get to New England, you know,
Speaker 5: Romeo Rack is there early what that was Mangini and
Speaker 5: then Dean takes over and we go all in to
Speaker 5: Cover four, which was you know, that was his baby,
Speaker 5: and that was great for all those years too. When
Speaker 5: Dean left, you know, Bill wanted to get back to
Speaker 5: some more traditional stuff. The game was changing at this point,
Speaker 5: right around this timeline, and I really think offensively, Bill
Speaker 5: had a great vision of where the game should go,
Speaker 5: and it was getting away from the elevens into the
Speaker 5: mixed twelves personnel groups. But at this time, defensively we
Speaker 5: had gone back to a lot of base Cover two,
Speaker 5: Cover three. We had young players playing zone because zone
Speaker 5: you got more chances for turnovers.
Speaker 4: You can see the quarterback, you can see the throws.
Speaker 5: Good tack we're always good tacklers, right, good tackling defense,
Speaker 5: and so that's we had young guys.
Speaker 4: So that's what we were in this era.
Speaker 5: We had our mans for situational football because you got
Speaker 5: to play man in situational football, red area things like that.
Speaker 5: And then really as our team developed, we get into
Speaker 5: other games. You know, when we get keep to leave,
Speaker 5: everything defensively changed changed, everything changed. It keeps like one
Speaker 5: of my favorites ever right walks in and he's like,
Speaker 5: Matty Pee's like, I got him.
Speaker 4: You figure out the rest of it.
Speaker 5: I'm like cool, Like you know, it was like, so
Speaker 5: we changed, we morphed. We would always morph the defense
Speaker 5: based on the talent we had. Right at this time,
Speaker 5: we're also coming out of this is actually the last
Speaker 5: year of a lot of base defense. So the next
Speaker 5: year after this, because of our twelve packages, you know,
Speaker 5: I went into big nickel. This is where that's where
Speaker 5: pat Chung really comes into. This is where Pat Chung
Speaker 5: saves us for a lot of years. No, he does
Speaker 5: not get enough credit for the evolution of what we
Speaker 5: went to and where we were.
Speaker 4: For all those years.
Speaker 5: After defensively, Devin also gets moved from corner and move
Speaker 5: him to safety, you know, after this because of where
Speaker 5: we were. You know, Dev's like rookie.
Speaker 1: Of the Year, and why do you do that?
Speaker 4: Why do we change the defense?
Speaker 1: Because because you're the twelve personnel and so there's a
Speaker 1: lot of twelve personnel, which means there's two tight ends,
Speaker 1: but teams are still spreading people out. Correct the safety
Speaker 1: has to cover the tight end. Who's a better rout
Speaker 1: runner these days? So Patrick Chung being the physical type
Speaker 1: player that could play decent against bigger or very good
Speaker 1: against bigger guys. Strong physical, great run instincts. So that's
Speaker 1: why Patrick Chung was so good because he was a
Speaker 1: covering safety. He wasn't a big safety, which now all
Speaker 1: the safeties looked like Patrick Chung, but at this time,
Speaker 1: you know, this is when safeties were fucking huge.
Speaker 4: Yeah still still big, still coming down there of the history.
Speaker 5: So defensively, our mentality in general was how do we
Speaker 5: fit the defensive structure to the So again, like people
Speaker 5: are like, oh, you're a base cover two coach, and
Speaker 5: I'm like, well I was when we needed to be,
Speaker 5: you know, but like you saw our playbook, like we
Speaker 5: had every coverage known to man in that thing, and
Speaker 5: then some we made up so or fronts and variations.
Speaker 5: So with that mentality the defense, that was just our
Speaker 5: mentality every week, what do we have to do? What
Speaker 5: do we have to play in order to win this game?
Speaker 5: Because that's all that really mattered. It was like, it
Speaker 5: doesn't matter what we do. How do we just win
Speaker 5: this game? Complimentary football with the offense, with special teams
Speaker 5: with defense, and who are the players we have to
Speaker 5: do that? And so it was always evolving, always changing.
Speaker 5: But when you game plan an offense for for me,
Speaker 5: you know, started with the quarterback, how are we gonna
Speaker 5: make this guy? You know, how we're gonna play the
Speaker 5: game within the game against this guy? And then I
Speaker 5: went to the offensive line. You obviously identify who are
Speaker 5: the great players, who are the go to guys you
Speaker 5: gotta stop. You know, who's the ball going to and
Speaker 5: what situations you know, make sure you got those guys handled,
Speaker 5: make sure you got him covered. But game planning affecting
Speaker 5: the quarterback was through the offensive line. How do we
Speaker 5: get pressure in his face? He's gonna step up, is
Speaker 5: he gonna bail?
Speaker 4: Is he gonna move?
Speaker 5: Do we need to keep him in the pocket? Do
Speaker 5: we want him out of the pocket he scramblard? Does
Speaker 5: the extend all of those You got to answer all
Speaker 5: of those questions, you know, as you go through the
Speaker 5: game plan, process, and then you know, you got run game,
Speaker 5: you got all that in there. What packages you're gonna play?
Speaker 5: How are you gonna call the game? You know, So
Speaker 5: a lot of games I would have, you know, had
Speaker 5: different call sheets. So I had the main, our main
Speaker 5: call sheet that everybody had, and then I would have
Speaker 5: adjustment call sheets, you know, and I either have them
Speaker 5: or you know.
Speaker 4: People ask me all the time.
Speaker 5: So I always had a notebook in you know, always
Speaker 5: wore hoodie, always had pets. Yeah, good, of course, right, uh,
Speaker 5: but I always had but I always had notebooks with paper,
Speaker 5: you know, and I would rewrite different scripts, different series
Speaker 5: coming up, you know, like we come aside. I'm like, hey, jewels,
Speaker 5: next third down call is going to be this, next
Speaker 5: first down is going to be called to be ready
Speaker 5: to go in on second down and long second shore
Speaker 5: we're gonna stay based. And I would write all of
Speaker 5: those out so that everybody had that during the game.
Speaker 2: Now, Bill O'Brien on coaching Tom Brady to.
Speaker 7: Have the opportunity to coach you know, obviously, what we
Speaker 7: believe is the greatest quarterback of all time. When he
Speaker 7: when he first he was out on the West Coast
Speaker 7: and he came back for ot as that year, uh nine,
Speaker 7: the year, the year.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: He I'll never forget this. He came into my office
Speaker 7: he said, look, I want to be coached. He's like, look,
Speaker 7: I don't want don't waste my time, but I want
Speaker 7: to be coached. And he was right about that, and
Speaker 7: I learned a lot about, you know, how he wanted
Speaker 7: to be coached, what he wanted to know.
Speaker 1: Like I can remember one of my first meetings. I
Speaker 1: was so prepared.
Speaker 7: I had this like book of like computer reports, and
Speaker 7: I gave him this. I'm like, Tom, look at this book,
Speaker 7: you know, and he's like, what is this. I want
Speaker 7: one sheet. I want one sheet that tells me boom
Speaker 7: boom boom, first, second down, third down, boom, fronts, pressures,
Speaker 7: red area, backed up to you know, the whole thing.
Speaker 7: And I was like, oh my god. So but from
Speaker 7: that point I did the one sheet and I used
Speaker 7: that one sheet to this day for quarterbacks. Because he
Speaker 7: wanted to be able to think quickly. He didn't want
Speaker 7: a big computer report. He was a guy that if
Speaker 7: you showed him that you could work with him, like
Speaker 7: you you could take in his input and show him
Speaker 7: that you could work together. To formulate a really good offense,
Speaker 7: like then you were going to have a great relationship.
Speaker 7: And I think that's why he and I got along
Speaker 7: so well, because we had our ideas and then he
Speaker 7: would come in on Tuesdays with his ideas and we
Speaker 7: would put those ideas into with ours, and you know,
Speaker 7: I would put it all together and then each night
Speaker 7: I would have to email it to him. And so
Speaker 7: I don't know if Josh. I think Josh probably do
Speaker 7: the same thing. But like you know, he went to
Speaker 7: bed early. So if it was like, you know, Tuesday
Speaker 7: night for Wednesday morning, here's the game plan by eight pm,
Speaker 7: here's the game plan for third down by eight pm
Speaker 7: on Wednesday, you know red area eight pm on Thursday.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean for the next day.
Speaker 7: But that forced you to work, get your work done
Speaker 7: and be prepared. And then he would email back with hey,
Speaker 7: I love this play. I love this play. I don't
Speaker 7: really like this play. Hey what do you think about
Speaker 7: this play? And it was just that type of relationship,
Speaker 7: you know, and coaching them was it was awesome.
Speaker 1: That's really cool to hear, you know, And people don't
Speaker 1: realize Tom loves being coached. I mean, Billy Oh, was
Speaker 1: probably so overwhelmed jumping into that thing because when I
Speaker 1: got there, they are like they already had three super Bowls. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they were already the Patriots. That was like. And I
Speaker 1: remember seeing him throw for the first day and I
Speaker 1: was like, Man, this motherfucker throw.
Speaker 2: Next up, We've got Ernie Adams on defensive schemes against
Speaker 2: high powered offenses.
Speaker 8: We did a really good job adjusting from that regular
Speaker 8: season game to the super Bowl against US. I think
Speaker 8: they weren't really. I don't think they were expecting the playoffs.
Speaker 8: They only had a week, so they kind of went
Speaker 8: in a little bit the same way they did the
Speaker 8: regular season game, which we were ready for. What they do,
Speaker 8: do what they do? Uh and and they listen, they're good.
Speaker 8: They figured it out. They started hitting the sounds. So
Speaker 8: you know the pass up the seam, what do we
Speaker 8: always call that pass?
Speaker 1: The sea?
Speaker 8: How about ram pass? How many times you heard this
Speaker 8: talk about rampass? Everybody the Scott right five twenty five
Speaker 8: f post swing. I mean it was like staple Well
Speaker 8: they started to run a ram pass against it, and
Speaker 8: they had a step on us a couple of times,
Speaker 8: and they ran like five times for five different formations,
Speaker 8: different personnel groups, and you know, they came back and
Speaker 8: tied the game up.
Speaker 1: Uh, and then we went back and one and.
Speaker 8: Again, but the Colts and three we I think the
Speaker 8: final score of the game was twenty six to three
Speaker 8: and the only reason it wasn't a zero was because
Speaker 8: we dropped an interception in the end zone that we
Speaker 8: should have had and they kicked the field goal. So
Speaker 8: we held them the three points. And then Super Bowl
Speaker 8: fifty three against the Rams in twenty eighteen, we hold
Speaker 8: them the three points. So that was you know, those
Speaker 8: to me were three five hundred point teams, fire five
Speaker 8: hundred point teams. I mean, those were masterpieces. And what
Speaker 8: I remember that three game that you're going to talk
Speaker 8: to Tie about. After the game, they had, you know,
Speaker 8: on the whatever network was doing. One of their guests
Speaker 8: for the game was Mike Shanahan, coach of the Broncos,
Speaker 8: and I mean he his team had been shoot up
Speaker 8: by the Colts. I mean, they got massacred by the Colts.
Speaker 8: And Mike Shanahan went and I said, I can't believe
Speaker 8: I just saw what I saw, which I took as
Speaker 8: a real you know that that's like a real comp
Speaker 8: you know, a real compliment from somebody who really knows
Speaker 8: this is something special right here. But you know, I
Speaker 8: will say part of that was because I knew in
Speaker 8: the middle of November it was going to come down.
Speaker 8: I was playing the Colts.
Speaker 1: So that was what it was then, That's what it was.
Speaker 8: And you know what spent like, I mean, it didn't
Speaker 8: matter if we were playing, you know, the Jets in
Speaker 8: a regular season game.
Speaker 1: I made a point to spend.
Speaker 8: An hour a day at least when I was studying
Speaker 8: the Colts, you know, just in the middle, just just
Speaker 8: to make sure.
Speaker 1: Now, what's the study, just watching the game, watching the game,
Speaker 1: logging it, what the you know.
Speaker 8: And and the thing was they would get everybody was
Speaker 8: trying to play and cover three and cover one and
Speaker 8: they kill them running up the seams. I mean you can,
Speaker 8: oh my god, it was. It was a slaughter. And
Speaker 8: so I said, we can't do this. We need to
Speaker 8: go in and play cover four. We cannot get showed
Speaker 8: up in the seams. And Romeo Cornell, are defensive coordinator,
Speaker 8: is one of my favorite people, said when you want
Speaker 8: to play cover three, never not against this team.
Speaker 1: Just don't do it.
Speaker 8: They will kid you.
Speaker 1: Okay, and that's what that's kind of what teams would
Speaker 1: do to us because of Gronk.
Speaker 8: And so I go, this is maybe two years ago,
Speaker 8: and I'm watching a Monday night game and I'm watching
Speaker 8: the simulcast with Eli and Peyton Manning and somebody's playing
Speaker 8: cover four and Peyton Manning goes, yeah, I cover four.
Speaker 8: I don't really like my incuts and my seams against that.
Speaker 8: And I'm sitting there thinking, yes, that's why we played it.
Speaker 2: Next up, you've got Josh McDaniels outlining his mindset when
Speaker 2: he calls trick plays these little details. Is that like
Speaker 2: the factor room with your play calling? Is that innate?
Speaker 2: Is that something with reps? Like where do you pick
Speaker 2: up those little details when it comes into your crafts
Speaker 2: of play call?
Speaker 3: I think it's just probably experience, you know. I don't
Speaker 3: like I think when you're coming off the sideline and
Speaker 3: like the defense is kind of ready for almost anything,
Speaker 3: you know, Like, I don't think that's a great time
Speaker 3: to like spring your craziest play on them all the time.
Speaker 3: I think it's almost like you run a play, you
Speaker 3: run a second play, Oh you got a first down,
Speaker 3: So they're kind of like, all right, they're just driving
Speaker 3: the ball.
Speaker 1: They're just trying to.
Speaker 3: Do the same stuff they've been doing, you know, throwing
Speaker 3: the ball here, dink and dunk, which is what I
Speaker 3: wanted him to be thinking. And they got So we
Speaker 3: get a first down and we're into a drive. The
Speaker 3: defensive coordinator he knows we're not going fast. He's into
Speaker 3: his drive now, you know what I mean, meaning meaning Deans.
Speaker 3: You know, you kind of get into a rhythm of
Speaker 3: the drive itself. Each drive is different. And so we
Speaker 3: first down, play huddle, second down, play first down, go
Speaker 3: back to the huddle, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 3: now Dean's in his rhythm too, and so again the
Speaker 3: it just I thought that was a better way to
Speaker 3: do it, honestly, than go out there and be desperate
Speaker 3: and try to hurry up and get to it.
Speaker 1: And you know, people don't realize these you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know how it's in other places, but there's a
Speaker 1: department that studies and gives everyone around the league what
Speaker 1: they're doing to our coaches, and they look at it.
Speaker 1: These guys study it so that you know, you could
Speaker 1: always see when it's the best opportunity. He's probably seen
Speaker 1: this situation go down may not be this specific trick play,
Speaker 1: but a different trick play that you know, a team
Speaker 1: off of. You know, a big play makes another big
Speaker 1: play feels desperate, you know. So these guys they're always
Speaker 1: watching the game, and that's how they get their experiences,
Speaker 1: not only through coaching it, but watching other coaches. The
Speaker 1: great coaches will use their experiences and implicate it into their.
Speaker 3: And I've made I've called enough plays and made enough
Speaker 3: mistakes when I was younger, you know, to like, all right,
Speaker 3: well that sucked, you know what I mean, Like that
Speaker 3: totally wasn't the right time to do that, you know,
Speaker 3: and you just I think learning through your failings as
Speaker 3: you're going is a helpful thing. So you have a
Speaker 3: little bit of wisdom, you know, after you've put enough
Speaker 3: pelts on the wall, you know where now you kind
Speaker 3: of know, like that's I remember not to do that
Speaker 3: because of this game. And I tried it and it backfired,
Speaker 3: you know. And the other thing I would say about
Speaker 3: this is, and you would attest to this, we practiced
Speaker 3: those things, and we didn't act like they were like
Speaker 3: so special that it was like impossible for us to
Speaker 3: succeed at them. I treated those things is like almost
Speaker 3: like a play action pass like a flea flicker or
Speaker 3: a double Like if you rep it enough, what's the difference.
Speaker 1: Like other than the ball handling?
Speaker 3: And yeah, like but I trusted you enough and we
Speaker 3: repped it enough where I was like, I didn't call
Speaker 3: it and go like this like what's gonna happen? I
Speaker 3: called it going as long as the defense is going
Speaker 3: to give it to us. I've seen us execute this
Speaker 3: many times. Look at he's got this smile, like, yeah,
Speaker 3: tell him how many times I hit it in practice?
Speaker 1: I think I overthrew him three or four times.
Speaker 2: You were gloves too, right, yeah, because he always ships
Speaker 2: on quarterbacks when they wear their gloves.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm not gonna take my glove off.
Speaker 3: Well that's why that's the thing is you take it off.
Speaker 3: Then these guys Baltimore might have been perceptive enough to
Speaker 3: he's got.
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson out there gloves like lad Guerrero. Come on now.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 9: But but to to coaches point, I think that's a
Speaker 9: that's cool that like it's not one of these like
Speaker 9: super trick plays and like crazy things. Because we were
Speaker 9: watching we did the AFC Championship and in Arrowhead with
Speaker 9: Ernie and there was a leaf licker on that drive
Speaker 9: in ot. Yeah, like it's just a regular play, Like
Speaker 9: that's a testament.
Speaker 1: To that practice.
Speaker 3: And it was like a comfort level for you as
Speaker 3: the play caller, like I don't feel like I'm about
Speaker 3: to mess the game up because I've watched us and
Speaker 3: I trust our guys enough and trust you guys to
Speaker 3: do it.
Speaker 1: So and you don't either.
Speaker 3: You're not thinking like, oh god, he called a flee flicker.
Speaker 1: You're just like, what it is? What it is?
Speaker 2: Next up. Matt Patricia on utilizing go to players. During
Speaker 2: go to plays, I.
Speaker 5: Was always looking at the offensive guys getting said who
Speaker 5: could play defense? Yeah, the offensive guys that can play defense.
Speaker 5: But once you were kind of on the team, all
Speaker 5: that stuff that you went through, I was like, that's
Speaker 5: the guy that can do it. So I always had
Speaker 5: in my head I was like, at some point, he's
Speaker 5: going to play dB for us.
Speaker 1: Which is so crazy. For two reasons. I remember when
Speaker 1: I was getting worked out, Pittsburgh worked me out as
Speaker 1: a safety in a corner when I was coming out
Speaker 1: of Kent. And then the second thing, when you told
Speaker 1: me about the Troy Brown stuff, and like you said,
Speaker 1: oh that I finally got someone that I could do
Speaker 1: this with. When I first got drafted to New England, Yeah,
Speaker 1: my agent Don ye yeah, Don Don goes to me
Speaker 1: and he goes, I have a vision, You're the next
Speaker 1: Troy Brown. I just the team's gonna it's gonna be
Speaker 1: hard for them to cut you because you're gonna Because
Speaker 1: that was the thing going into this. They had seven
Speaker 1: receivers my rookie year eight receivers. They traded for a guy,
Speaker 1: they had Raindy Moss West. One of the guys was
Speaker 1: a Special Teams captain Sam Akin. So like the roster
Speaker 1: spot was like hard, you can't get that spot. But
Speaker 1: my agent was just always say it's gonna be hard
Speaker 1: for them to cut you because you could do a lot,
Speaker 1: a lot. And it's crazy you said that fucking down's
Speaker 1: smart dude.
Speaker 5: But yeah, it was. I just and Josh, you know,
Speaker 5: Josh Boyer, he was great at all that too. So
Speaker 5: Josh was like, and I think he was on he
Speaker 5: was in that same mentality. Josh was and he saw
Speaker 5: the same thing. So you know it was Jules was
Speaker 5: going to play defense. We were gonna, we were gonna
Speaker 5: go through it. You know, I remember Troy saying I
Speaker 5: was like, long time ago. I was like, Troy, how
Speaker 5: did you He's like, well, I know most of the routes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like, I run all these routes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I know everything inside exceptually.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Situation is so you knew the same and then situationally,
Speaker 5: you knew what we wanted to defensively, and I knew
Speaker 5: you'd learn it in a very short amount of time.
Speaker 1: So because I remember what I would do, Bill and
Speaker 1: you guys would always say, well, Bill, I would listen
Speaker 1: to the team meeting, yep, and Bill would always say
Speaker 1: gotta have it situations, the third downs, the four point
Speaker 1: plays they throw got to have it routes to got
Speaker 1: to have it players, Yeah, go to go. So if
Speaker 1: you fucking study the got to have it route, give
Speaker 1: you the list on that straight third down, and then
Speaker 1: you study the got to have it player. Like, all
Speaker 1: I would do is just hold on for dear life
Speaker 1: for the first five yards because I knew guys hated
Speaker 1: it and they just play to your leverage.
Speaker 2: Coming up next, Ernie Adams on analytics.
Speaker 1: Do you get fed up with hearing this bullshit analytics talk? Well,
Speaker 1: you know what it's like, I'm the analytic godfather.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 8: For instance, there's a.
Speaker 1: H Ernie Adams analytics. I am analytics.
Speaker 8: You know, like for instance, Amen, if something.
Speaker 1: Four, we went for it as analytics. Ernie before analytics.
Speaker 8: You know, but there was if something, if somebody's got
Speaker 8: something that makes sense, you know, we're we're Like David
Speaker 8: Romer was an economist that at the University California. I mean,
Speaker 8: his wife is a critical part of you know, some
Speaker 8: presidential administrations, and he wrote the paper on why on
Speaker 8: fourth and golf from the one you really want to
Speaker 8: go for it? Well, I read the paper and you
Speaker 8: know what, this makes sense. So it's it's it's like
Speaker 8: analytics is one thing, but if it's good animnalytics, it's
Speaker 8: gonna make sense. For instance, you know this whole thing
Speaker 8: that came up the Super Bowl that was just played,
Speaker 8: and I have been waiting for this situation for three years.
Speaker 8: Somebody when they changed the rule on overtime, you know,
Speaker 8: this is totally different. And to be honest with you,
Speaker 8: they flipped the you know, the forty nine ers win
Speaker 8: the toss and my text I sent a bill right then,
Speaker 8: I said, this is the first time in the national
Speaker 8: Football League history, the right call on winning the coin
Speaker 8: toss is we want to kick.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 8: You know, remember the playoff game again, you know, the
Speaker 8: overtime game in the regular season against Denver win. We
Speaker 8: took the wind. You know, this wasn't a case of,
Speaker 8: you know, we want the win that our back. We
Speaker 8: would take the chance on giving the ball to Peyton Manning.
Speaker 8: We just felt us out weighed by you know, we're
Speaker 8: playing in this for three hours. We can see what
Speaker 8: the wind is. We know the important thing is our back. Well,
Speaker 8: the Super Bowl with Kansas City and it's inside, there
Speaker 8: is no win. But to me, the call is we
Speaker 8: want to kick. We want to go on defense first.
Speaker 8: And the big reason it came up when Kansas City
Speaker 8: got the ball, you know what you need and you know,
Speaker 8: when you're in four down territory, off the way because
Speaker 8: it comes up fourth down, you can go for it. Well,
Speaker 8: if you know you're going to be going for it
Speaker 8: on fourth down, that changes the way you can call
Speaker 8: the game a first, second, and third down. And to me,
Speaker 8: that's that's the biggest you know, that's the biggest reason.
Speaker 8: And as interesting is I had never I mean, yes,
Speaker 8: Kyle Shanahan said, Okay, if it comes to a third possession,
Speaker 8: you know, and we score a week, kick a field goal,
Speaker 8: you kick field goal, I get the ball the third time,
Speaker 8: all right, then I can win it with a field goal.
Speaker 8: That's I hadn't really thought of it that way, and
Speaker 8: that's certainly a valid point, but I think it's overweighted
Speaker 8: by the fact if I'd rather have the ball second.
Speaker 8: So I know, you know, I know what I need.
Speaker 8: But to me, analytics is if it makes does it
Speaker 8: make good sense? You know, there's got to be a
Speaker 8: valid reason behind it, not just the computer told me
Speaker 8: to do. And I don't care what sports you're in.
Speaker 8: You know, it's like the whole thing three point shots
Speaker 8: in basketball. Okay, well yeah, it makes you know, it's
Speaker 8: points for possession. So if you've got somebody who can,
Speaker 8: you know, shoot forty percent shooting threes, go go ahead
Speaker 8: to shoot threes, got it, you know, But that it's
Speaker 8: it's analytics. But you know, on the court it actually
Speaker 8: makes sense like that.
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, analytics, well like.
Speaker 8: Like talking about because it's been you know, I think
Speaker 8: analytics probably used more in baseball than a football. But
Speaker 8: you know, the book I mentioned the buzzbitions. You wrote
Speaker 8: about the Cardinals and he's talking about their pitching coach,
Speaker 8: Dave Duncan. The notes he keeps, well, that's it. That's
Speaker 8: great analytics right there. You know, that's really you know,
Speaker 8: because you can and actually got to give that to
Speaker 8: a baseball player and you can apply it and use it.
Speaker 8: And that's like but again it's like if it's if
Speaker 8: you know, there's nothing as practical as a good theory.
Speaker 8: If the theory works, it's going to be practical.
Speaker 1: Do it.
Speaker 8: So David Roma wrote the book on why you should
Speaker 8: go for it on fourth and one and this makes
Speaker 8: real sense. So there must have been ten times it
Speaker 8: came up for US fourth and goal in the one.
Speaker 8: But what do you want to do? Call your best play?
Speaker 8: And we got stopped up at one time, we got
Speaker 8: stopped up at Buffalo. Okay, well, what's the national football?
Speaker 8: They're not all going to work, you know, But but
Speaker 8: it's like, you know, we had this just absolutely killed me.
Speaker 8: We're playing the Ravens in twenty nineteen. We're going into
Speaker 8: game eight, no, and we get the ball. Okay, well
Speaker 8: yeah that's going to happen too, but you know, we
Speaker 8: get the ball right towards you. If it's fourth and
Speaker 8: goal in the one end of the half and you
Speaker 8: know it, it's like Josh didn't have a play really
Speaker 8: good with If you didn't have a play, you feel good,
Speaker 8: we'll kick the field goal. But but you know, I
Speaker 8: really that was like, you know if that killed me
Speaker 8: because I you know, I know I really want to
Speaker 8: go for it, but I don't want to go for it.
Speaker 8: If you know, if the offensive coordinator, who's one of
Speaker 8: the best in the business, to have a play you likes,
Speaker 8: I don't want to go run a play just to
Speaker 8: run apply.
Speaker 2: Next up, Bill O'Brien on play calling for the four
Speaker 2: overtime Alabama Auburn game, the legendary four overtime Iron Bowl.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a great game. That was crazy. Anything
Speaker 1: can happen, rivalry, a game they ranked, wasn't even.
Speaker 7: It was like it was ten to three in that
Speaker 7: game and we had not done anything Auburn's defense. It
Speaker 7: was at Auburn, which is a tough place. So we
Speaker 7: got the ball back on our because Auburn screwed up
Speaker 7: the four minute kid ran out of bound, so they
Speaker 7: had to punt. We got the ball back on our
Speaker 7: own two yard line and Nick, I'll never forget Nick
Speaker 7: on the on the headset was like, Bill, we got
Speaker 7: to do something here, and I was like, yep, yes
Speaker 7: we do. It was about a minute and ten left
Speaker 7: and we went ninety eight yards Bryce Young and sent
Speaker 7: it into overtime and then we had a lot. You
Speaker 7: would have loved it because in college, after the first
Speaker 7: overtime you have to go for two score and so
Speaker 7: it was all of those Patriot bunch like boom.
Speaker 1: We saw that and they were just hit, like three
Speaker 1: or four of them. And then it carried over to
Speaker 1: this game. Well, you guys used a lot of those bunches,
Speaker 1: the Rams, the Rifles, the Texas two lane two lane
Speaker 1: two in which it makes this legendary Georgia defense have
Speaker 1: to communicate think fast. Is that what were you're doing
Speaker 1: in the middle. You're starting fast to try to slow
Speaker 1: down that d lineman. You guys were playing with tempo?
Speaker 1: Was that the game plan going in this thing?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think I felt for us in this game.
Speaker 7: You know we Nick did a great job of this
Speaker 7: team of his teams being in great condition. We you know,
Speaker 7: much like the Patriots. There was a lot of conditioning
Speaker 7: in Alabama. I felt like we were in better condition
Speaker 7: in that game than we were than Georgia was. You know,
Speaker 7: we were able to go fast, and Georgia was very
Speaker 7: big upfront, very talented, but maybe we could you know,
Speaker 7: get him huffing and puffing a little bit and be
Speaker 7: able to you know, sneak a couple of plays in
Speaker 7: there on him.
Speaker 1: And that was the game plan going in.
Speaker 2: Josh McDaniels is up next, diving into preparing for an
Speaker 2: offense when facing Ed Reed and Ray Lewis.
Speaker 1: I know this game isn't it didn't have Ray or Ed,
Speaker 1: but can you can you talk to the listener about
Speaker 1: having to try to prepare against those two guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's I'm sure like when you talk about a
Speaker 3: defensive coordinator trying to get ready for Manning or Brady,
Speaker 3: you know, those guys that were really intelligent and could
Speaker 3: play the game in their mind too.
Speaker 1: That's what that.
Speaker 3: Felt like when you were getting ready to play read Lewis.
Speaker 3: Suggs to me, there's not that many teams that I've
Speaker 3: coached against where I would say that there was the
Speaker 3: volume of players that they had at one time that
Speaker 3: were as instrumental and terms of knowing what was coming,
Speaker 3: seeing the formation overplaying tendencies, being able to adjust, getting
Speaker 3: their teammates in the right position.
Speaker 1: It was really.
Speaker 3: Hard to you know, because as a coach, you want
Speaker 3: to prepare your team as best you can. You also
Speaker 3: want to try to scheme some success. So it's not
Speaker 3: like make you know, good luck jewels, you know, get
Speaker 3: out there and get them on every play. Like there's
Speaker 3: definitely place where it's like, all right, jewels, you're gonna
Speaker 3: got to come through here, and you came through you
Speaker 3: know a ton. It's just you want to try to
Speaker 3: help your players as much as you can by giving
Speaker 3: them something that's like, Okay, this is going to work,
Speaker 3: and it's it's going to not trick the defense, but
Speaker 3: there's gonna be an element foreshadowing. There's gonna be a
Speaker 3: little you know, a little you know where it's simpler
Speaker 3: to have some success. And it was hard against them.
Speaker 3: It just wasn't that was not simple. Yeah, it wasn't simple.
Speaker 1: I just remember anytime we'd play ed Reed or bray Lewis,
Speaker 1: Bill would show like a twenty play cut up on
Speaker 1: just both of those. There'd be a thirty minute team
Speaker 1: presentation like to start the day of just a highlight
Speaker 1: of these two. This guy will fucking blow you up,
Speaker 1: Like just that kind of shit. Yeah, oh cover three,
Speaker 1: that's what you thought, and like Edward agreed to be
Speaker 1: in the second, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Like his favorite thing to say to us was that
Speaker 3: they don't need to play with safety defense because they
Speaker 3: just played post safety and ed covers both sides of
Speaker 3: the field and it may and it like got in
Speaker 3: your head as like I'm like, you know, as a coach,
Speaker 3: you're like, oh, man, like can we throw it back
Speaker 3: there or no?
Speaker 1: Ever?
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Like I remember Tom, like
Speaker 3: we'd have conversations and it was always part of the conversation.
Speaker 3: But that that's that's a tribute to the greatness of
Speaker 3: the player. Yeah, because when you're looking at him going
Speaker 3: he can cover everything back there and you're thinking about that,
Speaker 3: that makes you question whether or not you know, you
Speaker 3: can do something.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Bill loved ed Reid, didn't he like just
Speaker 1: loved loved him.
Speaker 9: Where does he rank on the all time Mount Rushmore
Speaker 9: of like guys that weren't Patriots that Bill loved high.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I always, I mean, I would
Speaker 1: always hear.
Speaker 3: That that weren't Patriots that he didn't coach. There's a
Speaker 3: caveat there. Lawrence Taylor would be there is no Mount Rushmore. Okay,
Speaker 3: there's Lawrence and then then there's the mountain.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's.
Speaker 3: Ed Reed is he's on He's in He's in the
Speaker 3: Mount Rushmore.
Speaker 1: Is there anybody else in there?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean Ed was Ed was such like Troy.
Speaker 3: They were different players. Edred was a completely different player
Speaker 3: than Troy. You know, we ended well, hell, we ended
Speaker 3: up with a lot of the guys that he loved,
Speaker 3: Rodney Junior. It was like, if we loved him enough,
Speaker 3: we would try to get him like Randy. But like
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, like there was some show there's a.
Speaker 2: All the Mike clips with them talking shit to each
Speaker 2: other pregame. Well, it's fucking yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah he's something.
Speaker 3: But that's that's what happened. I love that, like, you know,
Speaker 3: like you you you like him enough.
Speaker 2: Next up, Ernie Adams on anticipation beating reaction.
Speaker 8: We're playing the the Dolphins. It's probably around two thy eleven.
Speaker 8: So because Brian Dayball, of course, was he was with
Speaker 8: us for a number years, was the offensive coordinator. And
Speaker 8: I said what's Brian going to do? And they had
Speaker 8: the throwback to the quarterback off the shotgun. So we
Speaker 8: ran that and practiced and people are, what's well, they
Speaker 8: ran exactly that play in the game and the fact
Speaker 8: that you know we had seen it meant that we
Speaker 8: could react to it just in time, you know, to
Speaker 8: to make the play on defense, because the stuff is
Speaker 8: happening so fast. If you got to think, oh, it
Speaker 8: just went buy me, you got to you know, you
Speaker 8: gotta be able to anticipate. In fact, one of the
Speaker 8: great the great lines for coaching football was somebody I
Speaker 8: have a tremendous respect for Tom Landry who would say,
Speaker 8: anticipation beat reaction every time you think ahead of that. Hey,
Speaker 8: we know this is the situation.
Speaker 1: This is what we got to watch out for.
Speaker 8: And that just makes a world of difference than just
Speaker 8: being out there playing, oh.
Speaker 1: My god, the play just went by me.
Speaker 8: And how You've seen a lot of guys they're always
Speaker 8: half a step light, and that's just that doesn't work.
Speaker 1: That's what I try to explain to people, like when
Speaker 1: they ask what was your guys day to day like,
Speaker 1: and I'd be like, oh, well, we'd walk through plays,
Speaker 1: we'd walk through the walkthroughs, and we'd go to a
Speaker 1: built in drill for that specific play, take it to
Speaker 1: a seven on seven. Then do a team and we'd
Speaker 1: have all these reps and you'd run thirty new plays,
Speaker 1: but you'd rep them four or five times, and guys
Speaker 1: would bitch and complain, bitch and complain. But then when
Speaker 1: you when it came to game day, like Ernie said,
Speaker 1: it's in your subconscious. It's built in your subconscious. So
Speaker 1: you react and you've seen the play, it becomes deja
Speaker 1: vu on this technique. This happens, Oh, I see this guy.
Speaker 1: I saw it in practice. I saw it in the walkthrough,
Speaker 1: and it allows you to play fast. And that's and
Speaker 1: that's something that I always tell everyone. What made our
Speaker 1: teams was our practice and our ability to really take
Speaker 1: those meetings. I mean that's hard to get, you know,
Speaker 1: thirty guys to really buy in and go over plays
Speaker 1: and plays and plays. But that's what made us us.
Speaker 4: That's what made us us.
Speaker 8: And you know, I think, you know, probably our best,
Speaker 8: our best ninety minutes of football was Super Bowl fifty
Speaker 8: one against.
Speaker 2: The faulcon Bill O'Brien up next, talking about coaching the
Speaker 2: SEC championship under Nick Saban.
Speaker 1: You're the offensive coordinator, you put in the game plan,
Speaker 1: We're gonna you probably present to Nick, We're probably we
Speaker 1: gotta go fastest, slow this d line down, make them
Speaker 1: communicate with a lot of our our formations, our bunches.
Speaker 1: When it's a slow first quarter, are you making adjustments
Speaker 1: to the game plan or are you just sticking with
Speaker 1: the game plan. You guys are executing better. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: we we had to adjust. It was it actually was
Speaker 1: ten nothing. They went up ten nothing, but the second
Speaker 1: quarter you got there was fireworks.
Speaker 7: Yeah, fireworks. We did adjust. We we we went to
Speaker 7: my recollection is we did. We were going to struggle
Speaker 7: to run the ball. So we put the ball basically
Speaker 7: in Bryce's hands and we had, like I said, two
Speaker 7: good receivers, good tight end and even the backs out
Speaker 7: of the back for were good in the passing game,
Speaker 7: so you could check it down to them and they
Speaker 7: were gonna make yards. So we we we knew like, look, man,
Speaker 7: we're gonna have to really throw the football here to
Speaker 7: win this game.
Speaker 1: We hit Taffy for like an eighty yard touchdown.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so we had to clear out with the toggle
Speaker 7: with the free route and we hit the free route
Speaker 7: I think for eighty yard touchdown to Jamison Williams.
Speaker 1: I think it was so.
Speaker 7: And then we came in at halftime, we said, hey,
Speaker 7: they're sitting on something.
Speaker 1: The taffy's at the bunch Yeah, yeah, the cross. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Was he the second guy or the first guy? He
Speaker 1: was the he was a toggle runner, Okay, he was
Speaker 1: the top guy. Wow. So then we there's no one
Speaker 1: near him. They blew it. It was a communication thing
Speaker 1: once again with those bunches motioned to it. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 7: And then in the second half we knew we could
Speaker 7: double move him, so we said if we saw cover four,
Speaker 7: we were gonna give Jmo a curl go because the
Speaker 7: safety was jumping the hell out of the curl. Yeah,
Speaker 7: and so Bryce he pumped him and he ran a
Speaker 7: curl going. He threw it and we had like a
Speaker 7: sixty yard I think it was a fifty five yard
Speaker 7: bomb to yeah in the third quarter.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I think that was the first drive of the of
Speaker 7: the third of the second half, and that that kind
Speaker 7: of helped us a big That was a big time play.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So how how how are you guys? What's the
Speaker 1: halftime like with with the sabing, are you guys in this.
Speaker 7: You know, halftime in the in college is a little
Speaker 7: bit longer, you know, in the eight Yeah, it's probably
Speaker 7: more like fifteen twenty minutes, whereas in the pros it's.
Speaker 1: What twelve twelve, So unless you're in the super Bowl
Speaker 1: or twenty yeah, then where it's longer, Yeah, then you
Speaker 1: can take a nap.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but yeah, so yeah, we definitely came in and
Speaker 7: you know, he you know, Nick's very intense, so he
Speaker 7: was like, look, what are we doing?
Speaker 1: How are we going to do this?
Speaker 7: And but Nick also sees the game and I can
Speaker 7: remember distinctly he's saying like, hey, look, we're gonna have
Speaker 7: to throw the battle win this game. And so we
Speaker 7: just made sure we had our best passes ready to go.
Speaker 7: We had a couple new wrinkles we put in at halftime,
Speaker 7: like hey, we're going to run this this way.
Speaker 1: And these kids, the kids that were playing for.
Speaker 7: Us, were very very smart football players, you know, so
Speaker 7: they could They're like, no problem, coach, we got that.
Speaker 7: And that's kind of what halftime was like.
Speaker 1: And then once you guys go out and score and
Speaker 1: have that big play in the third quarter. It started
Speaker 1: off that's when you that momentum started kicking over there.
Speaker 1: As a play caller, how do you are you just
Speaker 1: like keep it going because you guys started, you know,
Speaker 1: there was a pick six. You guys are starting to
Speaker 1: blow them out. Now, what was the mentality on the
Speaker 1: play calling? Like are we trying to run this thing
Speaker 1: down or are we trying to fucking score when you
Speaker 1: got into.
Speaker 7: The fourth quarter of this game, like that pick six?
Speaker 7: After that pick six, I can that was Jordan Battle. Yeah,
Speaker 7: we took that back. I think after that when it
Speaker 7: was thirty eight to seven team, I think you know,
Speaker 7: Nick was in control of that. He would tell us like, hey,
Speaker 7: let's let's uh, you know, the millions the clock and
Speaker 7: hand the ball off and see if we can get
Speaker 7: you know, at least run it twice and then try
Speaker 7: to get it on third down with a pass.
Speaker 2: Maybe Matt Patricia is up next talking about strategy versus
Speaker 2: Mike Shanning.
Speaker 5: Two thousand and six, we're playing Denver. We had the
Speaker 5: China Bowl. There's there's it's painted on the field, you
Speaker 5: know that, all of it. We had jerseys and Chinese
Speaker 5: business cards. It was crazy. We were going to China.
Speaker 5: So that game we played Denver, and I remember that
Speaker 5: game specifically because we're playing Mike Shanahan and we're ready
Speaker 5: for the zone team.
Speaker 4: We're ready for the zones.
Speaker 5: And so all week I've got Brew and Junior in
Speaker 5: my linebackers, you know, and I'm telling him like, look,
Speaker 5: we're going to creep the line of scrimmage. You know,
Speaker 5: we used to play base defense, you know, three four,
Speaker 5: We're gonna move up to two and a half yards
Speaker 5: off the line because we got to go press these
Speaker 5: guards right now. We got to get them off of
Speaker 5: the defensive line. Vince and those guys tie and we
Speaker 5: got to get downhill. Well, Mike went to the whole
Speaker 5: power gap you know, duo run game and it was
Speaker 5: all down blocks.
Speaker 1: What is power gap? Due?
Speaker 5: So all kind of the same deal, right, good, good question.
Speaker 5: Good question depends on the side.
Speaker 1: Of the boys. If you're getting in.
Speaker 4: The same direction. Now we go to the gap, the
Speaker 4: duo or the.
Speaker 5: Power double teams everywhere, double teams all along Stord.
Speaker 4: We're trying to move body.
Speaker 1: So we're two on one.
Speaker 5: It's six versus three hundred, Yeah, six hundred vers three
Speaker 5: on moving the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 1: Love it.
Speaker 5: So instead of pressing the line of scrimmage. We actually
Speaker 5: linebacker wise, we got a stack. We got to get
Speaker 5: over the top, pull the double teams off. Well, Junior,
Speaker 5: you know who is kind of we were in the system.
Speaker 5: He's running through. And so we got gashed in the
Speaker 5: run game. I mean I think we won.
Speaker 1: We gosh.
Speaker 5: And so now we got to go in Monday to
Speaker 5: Bill's office and we got to go to the tape
Speaker 5: and it was not pretty.
Speaker 4: It was not good.
Speaker 1: We had.
Speaker 4: It was a very long meeting. I've got Junior say
Speaker 4: out Teddy, Bruce, Ki, myself, Bill killing us because we
Speaker 4: couldn't fit the runs power. It's not zone. We practice
Speaker 4: zone all week, you know, ready for the Shanahan stretch.
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