WEBVTT - Bachelor Countdown Day 6: Bob Guiney 0:00:01.160 --> 0:00:04.600 This is that Ben and Nashley I Almost Famous Podcast 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:06.279 Bachelor Countdown. 0:00:07.840 --> 0:00:10.719 Hey, guys, welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast. We are 0:00:10.720 --> 0:00:14.440 continuing our Bachelor countdown. We're interviewing a whole bunch of 0:00:14.520 --> 0:00:17.799 bachelors up until the premiere of Grant's season. 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:20.120 Today we have mister Bob Guiney. 0:00:20.200 --> 0:00:23.480 Today's interview is one that makes me very happy. Now, 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:25.480 all of them have made me very happy. It's always 0:00:25.480 --> 0:00:29.000 good to catch up with old friends, people who've lived 0:00:29.160 --> 0:00:31.200 in similar places you, people that can relate with you. 0:00:31.240 --> 0:00:32.800 But this one makes me extra happy because I love 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:35.080 this man very much and I know Ashley does as well. 0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:37.920 Bob Guiney, Welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast. 0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:40.800 Thanks guys, I love you both very much too. I'm 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:41.800 really happy to be here. 0:00:42.200 --> 0:00:42.520 Bob. 0:00:42.920 --> 0:00:45.440 Sometimes I still get starstruck by you because you are 0:00:46.320 --> 0:00:49.640 you are like the original bachelor that people remember. 0:00:49.720 --> 0:00:51.320 You're the first bachelor that people remember. 0:00:51.560 --> 0:00:54.520 And thank you for being part of our Bachelor series 0:00:54.600 --> 0:00:57.360 leading up to the premiere of Grant season. You are 0:00:57.400 --> 0:01:01.080 amongst a number of bachelors that we are revisiting with. 0:01:02.240 --> 0:01:03.200 Thank you. 0:01:03.200 --> 0:01:05.000 No, it's so sweet of you to say, Ashley, because 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:07.360 you're like a historian of this whole thing. I love you, 0:01:07.640 --> 0:01:08.680 you know everything. 0:01:08.920 --> 0:01:10.440 Our resident expert is what I call it. 0:01:10.480 --> 0:01:12.559 Oh, your season, I'm gonna be honest, don't. 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:14.399 Know your well, you were probably still in diapers. 0:01:15.120 --> 0:01:17.959 I was a freshman in high school when your season 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:18.160 was on. 0:01:18.240 --> 0:01:19.839 Your season was two thousand and three. 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:23.720 Yeah, yeah, I was right right after Trista's season, and 0:01:23.920 --> 0:01:24.520 yeah it was. 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:26.839 A long time ago for you, so sure. 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:31.840 And my mom was a little low brow on the 0:01:31.880 --> 0:01:34.720 Bachelor franchise at that point, So sometimes I would sneak 0:01:34.760 --> 0:01:36.920 it in my room, just like have an episode on 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:38.680 the background on my little Purple TV. 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:41.360 Oh my gosh, I love it. 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:43.440 I love Isn't it weird? I was in eighth grade 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:44.600 when Bob was the Bachelor. 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:46.920 Isn't that crazy? Yeah? 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:49.880 And it's so strange because I feel like, I mean, Ben, 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:52.280 I feel like you're one of my favorite human beings 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:54.760 a live period, not even from this franchise, but I 0:01:54.800 --> 0:01:56.040 feel like you and I are just like. 0:01:55.960 --> 0:01:57.800 When we hang out, I feel we're the same age. 0:01:57.920 --> 0:01:58.120 You know. 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:01.080 It's crazy because I really don't like you guys, don't 0:02:01.080 --> 0:02:02.440 feel like you have a big age gap. 0:02:02.920 --> 0:02:05.800 No, it's because Bob is so. 0:02:05.680 --> 0:02:07.600 Immature and Benison exactly. 0:02:07.800 --> 0:02:10.079 There you go. That's really honestly, that is it. 0:02:10.400 --> 0:02:13.080 No, it's it's interesting as we get older. My some 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:14.880 of my best friends in the world are, you know, 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:19.080 in their later forties and fifties. Now you just kind of, 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:21.320 you know, life kind of comes together once kids come 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:23.520 into play, and once it's the only thing you can do, 0:02:23.840 --> 0:02:27.480 you know, athletically is golf, Bob. I'm going to shower 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:30.959 you with compliments throughout the show. Oh and I hope 0:02:31.000 --> 0:02:32.960 you give us some headline. So that's the only rule 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:34.960 you have, and I'll shower you with compliments the rest 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:37.920 of the time. So I mean this compliment because I 0:02:38.000 --> 0:02:43.440 was talking about it a couple days ago, and I 0:02:43.480 --> 0:02:47.200 won't mention with who, but it's another lead on this, okay. 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:51.160 And they're talking about career choices, like what if you've 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:54.120 been have any advice for what this looks like post 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:58.040 show or during show or whatever, like, how would you 0:02:58.080 --> 0:03:00.600 have navigated differently, how did you feel like you it well, 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:03.640 et cetera. So we were talking through this and I said, 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:07.680 and I said this blanket comment without thinking through it first, 0:03:08.040 --> 0:03:09.840 and then I stopped myself to think through it. I 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:12.160 said this. I said, you know, if you look at 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:14.960 the history of the leads on the show, the women 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:17.919 traditionally do really well, like the bachelorettes do really well 0:03:17.960 --> 0:03:22.120 post show in entertainment or in you know, influencing now 0:03:22.160 --> 0:03:24.120 would be a way to say that, or you know, 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:28.560 keeping some type of revenue stream going. I said, the 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:32.720 bachelors some have caught fire, but for the most part, 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:36.960 it's kind of this strategic switch from either keeping the 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:39.600 career you had before or enhancing that career a little bit, 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:43.520 using this whole platform for a few years, and then 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:46.960 really launching off into like whatever season's next for you 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:50.839 outside of entertainment. I said, you don't have I said, 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:54.200 you don't have many representatives that have made it an 0:03:54.360 --> 0:03:57.120 entertainment post show. And then I stopped. I said, actually, 0:03:57.120 --> 0:04:00.520 I would say that Bob Guiney has I mean you 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:04.280 two thousand and three, it was twenty two years ago. Yeah, 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:07.280 you're still on the almost famous OG so you're still 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:09.200 talking and people still want to listen to you for 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:09.600 a living. 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:10.440 Uh. 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:13.400 In addition to that, you obviously have a career that 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:17.000 you you know, put time into, but you were on 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:21.760 serious radio. You obviously a musician, we did the man 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:24.440 panel on the Today Show together for I think two 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:25.560 and all years you. 0:04:25.440 --> 0:04:28.320 Did it one I didn't, yeah, ten years. 0:04:28.760 --> 0:04:33.120 But you you have made a career post show. So 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:35.560 I want to start this whole thing by we'll talk 0:04:35.560 --> 0:04:37.800 about The Bachelor and your time there, and that's great, 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:40.680 But how do you think you made that happen? What 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:43.440 steps did you take or how did this kind of 0:04:43.480 --> 0:04:47.400 fall into your lap to where that was such a 0:04:47.400 --> 0:04:50.240 prevalent use of your time after show? 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:53.560 Well? Thanks, first of all, thanks for saying that. I mean, 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:54.520 you know, it's interesting. 0:04:54.560 --> 0:04:59.440 I would say I would say probably Jesse is probably done. 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:02.400 You know some of the more you know, high end uh, 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:06.400 you know, entertainment. Yeah, yeah, But was it Matt Stork? 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:07.120 Is it? 0:05:07.200 --> 0:05:08.279 Yeah? Travis Stork? 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:12.719 Travis Yeah, which, oddly enough, I'll never forget. Right before, 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:15.720 so I got a call from a producer and this 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:18.880 is uh and and you'll you'll appreciate this. This is 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:20.880 the highs and the lows, the thrill of victory in 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:24.040 the agony of defeat of the entertainment world for a 0:05:24.720 --> 0:05:25.440 bachelor guy. 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:28.839 I am on the set, so I was one of 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:29.840 my favorite jobs. 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:31.960 I did in entertainment was hosting the scene in music festival, 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:34.080 so I would go down, I'd be the guy that would, 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:36.240 you know, basically be like welcome back, you know. I 0:05:36.480 --> 0:05:39.040 think that was you know, Rascal Flats, you know, next 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:41.040 up Keith Urban and the crowded go crazy, and I 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:42.320 was like, this is the coolest job ever. 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:44.560 I did for seven years, and in the middle of 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:44.960 it, it was on. 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:47.040 It was on, It was on CMT, it was before 0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:49.960 it jumped over to being full time on ABC. But 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:53.440 I'll never forget. I get a call from these producers 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:55.560 from something and they're like, you know, we want you 0:05:55.600 --> 0:05:58.240 to host one of our shows on CMT. And they're like, 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:00.600 we're gonna plug and play you right into this companion 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:02.719 show with it for our number one hit show. And 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:04.360 the number one hit show at the time was called 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:07.920 Trick My Truck. And I'm like, oh okay, and it's 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:09.760 like yeah, it's almost like a makeup like pimp my 0:06:09.880 --> 0:06:13.040 Ride for semi trucks. I'm like, oh okay, I don't 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:15.040 really know anything about that stuff. Like no, no, no, that's 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:16.920 all we want you for. We're doing a like a 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:20.880 spinoff show and it's called Trick My Trucker and We're 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:21.640 just gonna plug. 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:22.760 You into it. We're gonna plug you on it right now. 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:27.320 And I'm like what And it wasn't. I don't have 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:29.120 a cluely why I said yes to it, but I did, 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:32.800 and in saying yes to it, I'm like okay. And 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:35.880 it was basically like a makeover show for truck drivers 0:06:36.080 --> 0:06:40.279 and I'm like the host, yeah, yeah, they all sort. 0:06:40.120 --> 0:06:41.400 Of out of my room, right. 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:43.360 But I was doing like a bunch of homemakeover style 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:45.200 stuff like back then for AGTV and all that kind 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:46.800 of stuff, So I guess in a weird way, maybe 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:49.240 it fit. And while I'm doing it, I get a 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:52.160 phone call from a producer friend of mine and he's like, hey, man, 0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:53.720 got this great idea for a show. 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:54.440 And he's telling me the. 0:06:54.440 --> 0:06:57.599 Show and I'm like, it's about doctors and we're gonna, 0:06:57.600 --> 0:07:00.840 you know, we're gonna tell people how to solve know ailments. 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:03.000 And I'm like, why does this guy call me? 0:07:03.040 --> 0:07:04.479 I'm not a doctor, and he goes, do you know 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:06.200 how I can get a hold of Travis Stork? 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:09.479 I really? And I'm like what, wait? 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:12.120 What? And I will never forget it because I was like, yeah, 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:14.520 I can connect the dots and help. And in that moment, 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:17.520 I'm realizing the end of my career and the launching 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:21.120 pad for doctor Travis Stork's career. But you know, I'm 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:23.360 on a set of a you know, truck driver makeover 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:25.840 show and some weird you know, and some weird truck 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:27.560 stop and like, I don't even know. 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:30.400 I'm like, what is going on with my life? 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:32.680 It makes fun show too. It was definitely coming off 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:33.560 of Queer Eye. 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:36.640 Yeah, probably, Yeah, they were just finding different ways to 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:39.240 spin it, you know. And but yeah, you know, it 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:43.200 was kind of interesting after after the Bachelorette, which you know, 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:45.360 my brother in law, I've told you this story many times, Ben, 0:07:45.400 --> 0:07:47.240 and I think Ashley probably knows it too. But I 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:49.240 didn't shibmit myself to be on any of it, and 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:51.840 so and I actually thought it was a joke when 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:54.120 they were calling me because I was crouching around my 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:56.840 office after one of my many, you know, ailments, and 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:00.120 I had never been heavier, and they're calling me for 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:02.360 this show that I didn't submit myself for. And it's 0:08:02.440 --> 0:08:04.640 Lacey Pemberton with a scratchy voice, and I think it's 0:08:04.640 --> 0:08:07.160 a guy messing with me, sounding like a woman. 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:08.800 And I'm like, okay, all right, you know. 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:10.840 So I'd be like, oh, yeah, you know, boy meets 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:12.960 girl every day in Detroit and on in front of 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:14.920 a million viewers, you know, and they're like, why you 0:08:14.920 --> 0:08:16.400 send in a demo tape. I'm like, not gonna be 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:17.960 the fat guy and you're blueper real, but thanks, and 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:20.840 I'm hanging up. I'm thinking it's like I'm gonna cutch 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:21.960 you around and everyone's gonna be laughing. 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:23.800 No one's laughing. I'm like, what the hell? I know 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:26.920 that was funny. And my brother in law said it best. 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:28.040 He was like, if I would have tried to make 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:29.760 any of it happen, I would have looked like a 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:32.400 complete idiot, you know. But instead I stepped in a 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:34.480 pile of dog poop and pulled a hundred dollars bill 0:08:34.480 --> 0:08:35.000 off my shoe. 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:35.200 You know. 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:37.200 He's like, it just sort of was one of those 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:39.600 times in your life. And the TV thing kind of 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:42.240 came as a result of that too. I went on 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:47.000 Trista's season of the Bachelorette and everybody there is ripped, 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:48.880 you know, and I'm like in the worst shape of 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:50.480 my life. And I would normally be one of those 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:52.520 guys who maybe isn't ripped, but at least would have been, 0:08:52.880 --> 0:08:54.840 you know, in moderately decent shape. 0:08:55.160 --> 0:08:57.480 And I'm like, oh, I'm clearly going home pretty soon here, 0:08:57.520 --> 0:08:58.560 you know. So I'm just gonna have fun. 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:01.800 And I had a blast and just kept sticking around, 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:04.480 you know. And then you know, Interest and I are 0:09:04.480 --> 0:09:06.800 still friends this day, obviously, and but it was one 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:09.080 of those things, and the Bachelor kind of came. You know, 0:09:09.200 --> 0:09:11.559 Oprah thought I was funny, made me your man on 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:13.040 the street. Next thing you know, I'm hosting all these 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:16.000 segments for Oprah and she's like, this is where you belong, 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:17.920 you know. And then they call me to do The Bachelor. 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:19.240 I'm like, I don't think I want to do it. 0:09:19.760 --> 0:09:22.200 I call Oprah. Oprah kind of talks what. 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:24.840 Lot. 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:25.880 Yeah. 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:29.239 I reached out to the Oprah for advice on becoming 0:09:29.280 --> 0:09:30.080 the Bachelor. 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:33.319 Yeah. I reached out to her executive assistant, who connected us, 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:36.000 and one day my phone rings back. I'm like, I'm like, 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:39.080 I know this is a weird request, but could Oprah? 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:41.280 I need to talk to Oprah. I want to, you know, 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:43.280 because she was the only only person I knew that 0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:45.959 was I need to talk to Oprah. But at this 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:48.320 point I'd done her show like ten times, you know, 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:50.600 cooking with a chef. I'm doing all this cool stuff, 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:53.360 like they get firefighters in Chicago and then they bring 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:55.920 me in and I'm like, with a firefighter, I mean everything, 0:09:56.080 --> 0:09:56.240 you know. 0:09:56.320 --> 0:09:57.839 It was just she just thought it was funny and 0:09:57.920 --> 0:10:00.760 gave me a platform to I'm an idiot. 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:01.640 You got a phone call. 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:04.080 So I get a phone call and tell us what 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:06.480 she said. Yeah, I legitimately said. 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:09.480 I was like, I'm struggling that they're asking me to 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:12.199 be the Bachelor guy, and I just don't think I'm 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:13.120 the right guy for it. 0:10:13.200 --> 0:10:14.959 And she's like she was so. 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:17.040 I mean, she basically was the reason why they were 0:10:17.080 --> 0:10:18.680 calling me, right, She's like, I want Bob to be 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:19.280 the next Bachelor. 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:21.680 That was really all it took. But I was like, 0:10:22.480 --> 0:10:24.000 I just don't think I'm the right guy for it. 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:28.160 You know, I'm not really doing anything memorable in my life, 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:29.720 and I just came off a trist this season. 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:31.280 That was a lot of fun. I'm the lovable loser, 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:32.839 and everywhere I go, people are like, you should have 0:10:32.920 --> 0:10:35.360 been the guy. You know, I'm like, thanks, They needless 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:38.360 to say. They edited me nicely, and I was kind 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:38.959 of just like, I. 0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:41.160 Don't think I'm I just don't think I'm that guy. 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:43.920 And she's like, oh my god, that's why you are 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:46.080 that guy. She's like, because you don't think you're that guy. 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:49.160 And she's like, just be you and be true to 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:51.480 who you are and it'll be the greatest season they've 0:10:51.520 --> 0:10:53.200 ever had. And she's like, you know, you've got to 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:56.120 do this. And she really kind of made me, I guess, 0:10:56.120 --> 0:10:59.600 feel like I could do it, you know. And so 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:01.079 I was like, Okay, what the heck, I'm going to 0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:01.360 give it a. 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:01.760 Shot, you know. 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:03.720 And and I just had to be open to the 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:07.000 fact that I could find love in that circumstance. 0:11:07.080 --> 0:11:08.960 And so that was kind of it, you know. 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:12.720 I went ahead with it and and the entertainment world 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:14.600 as it was a very long way of getting to 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:17.280 the answer of Ben's question. But it kind of was 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:19.679 much the same like after The Bachelor, they'd call me, 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:20.640 they go, hey, do you want to do this? 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:23.320 I'm like, yeah, why not? That sounds like fun. It 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:25.679 wasn't like I had my design on anything, you know. 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:29.760 And thankfully I never fully quit my day job, which 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:31.880 is always my advice to any of the new Bachelor guys. 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:34.439 I'm like, look, you're not Ben affleck Man. Stay in 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:37.720 your lane right and be you and have fun. But 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:40.920 you know, it's going to be really tough twenty five 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:43.120 years from now when you're going back to your very 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:47.360 first job interview, because you haven't done anything relevant other 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:51.720 than you know, celebrity bull riding in the last ten years. 0:11:51.840 --> 0:11:53.400 It's going to be really tough to get a job, 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:56.520 you know. So don't quit what you do, like, stay 0:11:56.840 --> 0:11:59.720 somehow with a business acumen, and don't think that you know, 0:11:59.760 --> 0:12:01.920 se tooth whitening kids on Instagram is going to be 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:04.120 a really great career move for you in the long run, 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:05.079 because it's not, you know. 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:07.480 And that's always been kind of my mindset. 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:09.719 I think it's the best advice. How did you give 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:12.600 that advice? I think you maybe give that advice to me, 0:12:13.280 --> 0:12:15.160 and it was something I didn't do for two more years. 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:18.840 I kept selling software, which was great, but then it 0:12:18.920 --> 0:12:20.880 led into this, and then it led into the freedom 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:23.120 to create some other things. But I think it's the 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:25.480 best advice you can give a lead is you're going 0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:27.400 to feel like king of the world and money's going 0:12:27.480 --> 0:12:30.640 to flow into your bank account faster than you ever 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:33.600 thought it would. But it also stops faster than you ever. 0:12:33.640 --> 0:12:35.880 Yeah, yeah, sure it does. It's a humbling experience. 0:12:35.920 --> 0:12:38.360 You know, when do you think that changed for you? Like, 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:41.000 when do you think that switch happened? Because obviously now 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:46.520 entertainment isn't the main source of your income, So like, 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:48.720 when did that start to feel like, hey, I should 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:52.440 probably now invest even more time into my full time job. 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:55.280 Yeah, when did you start to feel your store fade? 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:57.720 Yeah? Well, you know, I gotta be honest with you. 0:12:57.840 --> 0:12:58.960 I didn't feel it. 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:00.840 Yeah, I was gonna say, I don't I think you 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:01.840 could have continued. 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:04.240 Well, it took a really good friend of mine to 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:06.080 help me feel it, to be honest. So I had 0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:08.760 a buddy of mine from high school who he had 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:11.400 gone on he played, you know, college football, he played 0:13:11.679 --> 0:13:14.160 professional football for a while and he became a hedge 0:13:14.160 --> 0:13:15.719 fund manager and all this kind of stuff, And we'd 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:18.440 always had this really nice thing. And he called me 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:23.480 on my fortieth birthday to wish me a happy birthday. 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:26.840 So this was this was two years before I kind 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:28.760 of the same timeline has done two years when I 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:31.440 got this advice and I chose to heat it. But 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:35.400 he was like, hey, you know you and I had 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:37.680 just bought my second house in La. I'm thinking, I'm 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:40.040 just I think I got the world, you know, I 0:13:40.040 --> 0:13:43.679 got it all figured out. And and he was like, well, 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:45.520 I just want to say this to you. He's like, 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:49.480 I know you got your celebrity band buddies, and he's like, 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:51.320 I know you're buying real estate and you're doing all 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:51.920 this kind of stuff. 0:13:51.920 --> 0:13:54.679 He's like, but pretty soon, you're not going to be 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:56.400 the flavor of the month. There's going to be a. 0:13:56.320 --> 0:14:01.760 Younger, funnier, more handsome bachelor guy who's gonna come along, 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:03.960 and you're gonna be the guy that sort of like 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:05.680 keeps getting pushed down the thing. 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:07.640 There's never been a funnier bachelor. 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:10.600 Oh Ashley, you so much, thank you. 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:13.720 But I was like it kind of resonated with me 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:15.600 because I think because of who he was right who 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:18.040 he was saying it to me, no vested interest in 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:20.520 him saying it. It wasn't like he was competing with 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:22.480 me for anything or whatever. It was like just a 0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:26.560 buddy who I love, who had the guts to tell 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:28.040 me like he saw it, you know. And I was 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:30.840 like he's right, like, pretty soon, I'm gonna be that 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:33.320 guy that I'm telling everyone else not to be, Like, 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:35.160 don't be the dude selling, you know, tooth whitening. 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:35.400 Kids. 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:37.280 I'm wondering why you can't get a job in finance again. 0:14:37.320 --> 0:14:38.440 You haven't done it in a long time. 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:43.040 Jared has a tooth whitening ad coming up, guys, felt He's. 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:46.400 Also a business owner, and you know, there's a lot 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:50.320 going on, supplemental, supplemental tooth white. And he does have 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:53.360 a brilliant smile, and so therefore he should I I 0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:55.680 have never had that much of it. I want to 0:14:55.720 --> 0:14:57.360 have the ross from friend's teeth, and I just don't 0:14:57.360 --> 0:14:57.720 have them. 0:14:57.920 --> 0:15:00.480 Jared has bad byer too, so he he's got good. 0:15:00.480 --> 0:15:03.920 He's got bright though they're bright outside of teeth. Continue, Bob, 0:15:04.240 --> 0:15:06.040 thank you, Yes, So he calls it. 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:08.000 He gives me this advice, and it really I don't 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:09.480 know if it was because I was just turning forty. 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:11.720 I don't know what it was, but I had been 0:15:12.040 --> 0:15:15.560 at that point. I was eight years off my season. 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:18.600 It was really like the ten year mark, I guess. 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:20.680 So it was ten years after I was a bachelor, 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:23.200 and that's when I was like, you know, I'm going 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:25.680 to start taking these opportunities that I have because I 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:27.200 was still doing a lot of a live event hosting 0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:29.200 at the time, where I would go and do like 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:31.240 a Fortune five hundred company would hire me and I'd 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:33.080 go in to be their MC for their you know, 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:35.360 sales awards and stuff like that. I was like, I'm 0:15:35.360 --> 0:15:36.800 gonna start and every time I would do it, they'd 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:38.240 offer me a job and I'd be like, no thanks, 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:40.920 you know, And I was like, I'm gonna quit just 0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:43.640 saying no thanks. I'm gonna start thinking about these opportunities 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:46.000 and see if I can create something that I love 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:50.360 that's kind of a combination of my personality meets this 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:53.240 and where it's not just based off of you know, 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:55.840 because I was also you know, and we all kind of. 0:15:55.840 --> 0:15:56.360 Go through it too. 0:15:56.360 --> 0:15:58.920 We get to that point where we're sort of you're 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:00.520 not tired of it, but you want to be known 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:03.560 as something else than bachelor Bob from twenty years ago, right, 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:05.560 and so you're thinking, like what else can I do? 0:16:05.680 --> 0:16:08.360 And so that's when I started really thinking about it. 0:16:08.400 --> 0:16:10.840 And so twenty fifteen, which would have been twelve years 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:14.960 after I was a bachelor, was when I finally was like, Okay, 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:18.080 now I'm gonna take advantage of these opportunities and turned 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:21.640 it into an opportunity. Left La moved to Seattle with 0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:24.400 a company called Lincoln Financial, who you know, really took 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:25.920 a big chance with me, and they gave me an 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:29.000 opportunity to sort of grow and do some things that 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:30.800 I had been doing, but. 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:34.600 You know, take it next level and really make a 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:35.120 career out of it. 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:39.080 But they were also really supportive of me doing other 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:42.080 stuff and never once did they you know, make me, 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:44.280 you know, feel like I couldn't. In fact, that was 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:45.400 kind of part of it. Was they were like, we 0:16:45.400 --> 0:16:46.960 want you to continue doing your stuff. That's what makes you, 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:48.080 makes you different. 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:48.080 You know. 0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:50.920 And so I I got doing the Today Show for 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:52.640 many years after that, which is how Ben and I 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:55.200 met in person, and then you know, it was like. 0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:57.000 All that kind of good stuff. So yeah, I was. 0:16:57.040 --> 0:16:59.360 I was pretty happy about the way it kind of continued. 0:16:59.440 --> 0:17:02.320 And you know, I still get to dabble these days, 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:04.920 but now with the kids and everything else, the dabbling 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:06.840 has become you know, a little more selective. 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:19.560 Quick note, Ashley, because I know you have some questions 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:24.199 about almost famous ogs Bob and I still this day 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:25.840 people ask me, what's one of the coolest things you've 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:27.879 gotten to do since you were a bachelor, And I 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:30.360 always say, well, I get to host a show with Ashley, 0:17:30.480 --> 0:17:33.880 and that to me is fantastic, and it has been 0:17:33.920 --> 0:17:38.280 since we started. So the other thing is and Ashley. 0:17:38.280 --> 0:17:40.240 I don't know if you know this. Bob and I 0:17:40.760 --> 0:17:45.200 were on set filming on the Day show for Kathy 0:17:45.280 --> 0:17:48.080 Lee Gifford's very final day on that on television. 0:17:48.240 --> 0:17:50.720 Oh really, I hear that she's like the nicest person 0:17:50.760 --> 0:17:51.440 in Hollywood. 0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:57.960 Yeah, she's amazing. Hode is gone now, but we were 0:17:58.000 --> 0:18:00.440 there and so it was a really like ear moment 0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:03.199 for me because I think Bob was sitting next man 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:04.520 on the couch and I was like, I've watched her 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:06.800 my entire life, Like i watched her with my mom, 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:09.520 Regis and Kathy, like I watched that show with her 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:13.160 so much, and now I'm sitting here three foot from 0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:16.840 her as she cries and says goodbye to TV. And 0:18:16.960 --> 0:18:19.800 it was it was wild. It's one of those moments 0:18:19.800 --> 0:18:21.240 you're like, how did this all happen? 0:18:21.840 --> 0:18:22.480 Yeah? 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:27.359 Up here, Yeah, it's really But I know you have 0:18:27.359 --> 0:18:29.720 some questions about the O G show that that Bob 0:18:29.760 --> 0:18:31.000 hosts with his ex girlfriend. 0:18:32.760 --> 0:18:34.800 Well, first I wanted to talk about your ex wife. 0:18:35.280 --> 0:18:37.040 Oh yes, okay, so. 0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:40.440 Rebecca Rebecca boot Egg? 0:18:40.480 --> 0:18:41.000 Is that how you say her? 0:18:41.040 --> 0:18:41.359 Last night? 0:18:41.359 --> 0:18:44.640 But okay, man, I remember this was like a big 0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:47.040 thing because my mom was a big all my children's 0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:49.679 children fan and she was all my children. So my 0:18:49.760 --> 0:18:52.159 mom thought that you guys were a really cool celebrity couple. 0:18:53.080 --> 0:18:56.240 And you guys were married for six. 0:18:56.080 --> 0:18:58.160 Years six and a half half. 0:18:58.200 --> 0:19:02.119 Okay, again, you were kind of like a celebrity. You 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:05.440 were marrying another actress. This was all on the tabloid 0:19:05.480 --> 0:19:09.360 covers and noybe you guys might be working on something together. 0:19:10.920 --> 0:19:13.880 Yeah, you know, it's interesting. You know they say never 0:19:13.880 --> 0:19:15.920 burn your bridges, right, and it's kind of funny. I 0:19:16.640 --> 0:19:22.240 I always we split up. Well, I guess whatever seven 0:19:22.280 --> 0:19:23.720 years would have been after we got married. I can't 0:19:23.760 --> 0:19:24.639 remember the year now, but. 0:19:26.480 --> 0:19:27.919 Ok, thank you. 0:19:28.040 --> 0:19:34.480 Yeah, and uh we it wasn't because of anything uh 0:19:34.760 --> 0:19:37.560 you know, bad or anything toxic or anything anything. 0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:39.399 It was more that we were just two people who 0:19:39.440 --> 0:19:40.080 had grown apart. 0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:42.240 You know, we're living on opposite coasts at the time, 0:19:42.280 --> 0:19:43.920 and had been for a couple of years because of 0:19:43.960 --> 0:19:46.960 her career and and I had moved with her when 0:19:47.000 --> 0:19:48.399 she wanted to go to LA and so I had 0:19:48.440 --> 0:19:51.160 started a career there and it was just really difficult 0:19:51.200 --> 0:19:53.480 to figure out what was going to happen. And so 0:19:53.600 --> 0:19:54.880 it was one of those things where, oh, we'll take 0:19:54.880 --> 0:19:56.800 it every six months and see what you know, and 0:19:56.880 --> 0:19:57.720 it's it's tough to do. 0:19:57.840 --> 0:19:59.119 And so it was never from a. 0:19:59.160 --> 0:20:02.040 Lack of you know, love or caring for one another. 0:20:02.119 --> 0:20:04.920 It was more from a just a grown apart and 0:20:04.920 --> 0:20:10.440 and but we remained very friendly. And her husband when 0:20:10.480 --> 0:20:14.879 she remarried, was a guy that I really liked and respected. 0:20:15.119 --> 0:20:18.640 And it was one of those things where the long 0:20:18.720 --> 0:20:21.480 and the short of it is he came up with 0:20:21.560 --> 0:20:25.119 an idea and he presented it and it sounded pretty 0:20:25.160 --> 0:20:28.960 interesting and and we still don't know what's going to 0:20:29.040 --> 0:20:29.480 happen with. 0:20:29.480 --> 0:20:30.520 It, if anything. 0:20:30.640 --> 0:20:34.000 But this past year, you know, she returned back to 0:20:34.040 --> 0:20:36.520 the soaps and went back to Bold and Beautiful, So 0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:39.000 we actually had her Trista and I my ex girlfriend Trista, 0:20:39.400 --> 0:20:42.720 and I had her one of the triangle Oh yeah, 0:20:42.760 --> 0:20:45.560 what a lineage, and we had her on the show 0:20:45.600 --> 0:20:49.160 to talk about her return to daytime television and kind 0:20:49.160 --> 0:20:52.159 of teased this idea that was thrown out there, and 0:20:52.200 --> 0:20:53.679 you know, we'll see what happens. I mean, it's one 0:20:53.720 --> 0:20:56.280 of those things that's very early on in the development stages, 0:20:56.320 --> 0:20:58.920 but I will tell you, and I think this is 0:20:58.960 --> 0:21:00.359 an important part to talk about. 0:21:00.480 --> 0:21:03.560 Is I went to my wife, who my wife and 0:21:03.560 --> 0:21:04.359 I have been married, and I was. 0:21:04.359 --> 0:21:06.320 Going to say, how does Kanyon feel about this? 0:21:06.480 --> 0:21:09.320 Yeah, and Kanyon's like, that's an awesome show. I think 0:21:09.320 --> 0:21:11.919 you should totally do it. I'm like, really, he's like 0:21:12.000 --> 0:21:13.280 super supportive of it, you know. 0:21:14.119 --> 0:21:17.879 So Keanyon is one of the most fun people to 0:21:17.960 --> 0:21:21.240 be around and also one of the most welcoming. She'll 0:21:21.240 --> 0:21:25.679 always make sure. Yeah, my wife kind of was wrapped 0:21:25.760 --> 0:21:30.440 up in some comfortable arms. Yeah, showing around. Kenyon is is. 0:21:30.400 --> 0:21:32.320 One when she likes you. When she likes you, she 0:21:32.320 --> 0:21:34.320 can also be a pit bull when she doesn't. So, yeah, 0:21:34.400 --> 0:21:35.280 she clearly likes you. 0:21:35.240 --> 0:21:37.680 Can see that. But I always seem the good side 0:21:37.680 --> 0:21:40.960 and I love the good me too, good side of Kanyon. 0:21:40.960 --> 0:21:41.360 Me too. 0:21:41.480 --> 0:21:44.560 I agree with you, buddy, And yeah, so my my 0:21:44.680 --> 0:21:47.800 wife was very supportive of the idea. So if something 0:21:47.840 --> 0:21:51.080 ever does come of it, which who knows, you know, 0:21:51.119 --> 0:21:52.760 but if something ever did come of it, I'd be 0:21:53.200 --> 0:21:56.080 more than happy to talk about it here first with you. 0:21:56.320 --> 0:21:59.240 Kanyon has a lot of like jealousy concerns. You know, 0:21:59.280 --> 0:22:02.920 you've really now with her. I think it's like, Bob, 0:22:02.960 --> 0:22:04.359 you go do what you gotta do. But I know 0:22:04.600 --> 0:22:05.119 she does. 0:22:05.560 --> 0:22:06.400 You know, it's so true. 0:22:06.440 --> 0:22:07.959 I mean, that was that was the thing about her 0:22:08.000 --> 0:22:10.720 when I you know, when I met her, I really 0:22:10.760 --> 0:22:12.760 didn't ever think I was gonna get married again, you know, 0:22:12.800 --> 0:22:15.159 when I met Canyon, and so I was sort of like, 0:22:15.240 --> 0:22:17.240 you know, oh, we're gonna date and have fun whatever, 0:22:17.720 --> 0:22:20.320 you know. And I was probably treating it in my 0:22:20.480 --> 0:22:24.320 mind anyway, like it was a casual, you know, relationship. 0:22:24.359 --> 0:22:26.560 And it was funny because all my buddies would be like, uh, 0:22:27.040 --> 0:22:29.240 I'm like, well, yeah, we should go, you know, and uh, 0:22:29.359 --> 0:22:31.800 you know, maybe I'll maybe I'll bring maybe I'll bring 0:22:31.840 --> 0:22:32.360 a date or something. 0:22:32.400 --> 0:22:33.640 They're like, oh, you. 0:22:33.640 --> 0:22:36.560 Mean the date the only person that you ever hang 0:22:36.600 --> 0:22:38.879 out with, but you pretend like you're you know, not 0:22:39.200 --> 0:22:42.359 dating can oh no, you know, we're. 0:22:42.240 --> 0:22:42.920 Just so casual. 0:22:43.040 --> 0:22:45.119 And so it's funny because Canyon to this day. Like 0:22:45.160 --> 0:22:47.720 people will say, you know, you know, so, what's going 0:22:47.720 --> 0:22:48.200 on with you guys? 0:22:48.200 --> 0:22:50.320 You know what do you guys? She'll go, oh, we're keeping. 0:22:50.080 --> 0:22:53.480 It casual, two kids, casual, you know, you know, eight 0:22:53.560 --> 0:22:55.120 years married, casual. 0:22:55.160 --> 0:22:57.800 And you know it's it's actually pretty funny. 0:22:57.800 --> 0:23:01.119 But yeah, she's she's super cool about that stuff, and 0:23:01.320 --> 0:23:03.720 you know, yeah, it's got nothing to worry about anyway, 0:23:03.720 --> 0:23:08.160 So it's not like, you know, it's very comical. I'll 0:23:08.200 --> 0:23:10.200 just tell you this when I leave to go do something, 0:23:10.240 --> 0:23:12.199 like I'll be hosting something and she'll be like, you know, 0:23:12.800 --> 0:23:14.280 the things that she says to me are not the 0:23:14.320 --> 0:23:16.160 common things that a wife would say to a husband 0:23:16.160 --> 0:23:17.560 who's leaving for a business trip. 0:23:17.800 --> 0:23:19.080 She'll say something and it'll. 0:23:18.920 --> 0:23:21.480 Literally make me laugh until I get home, and it's 0:23:21.560 --> 0:23:24.119 just like, you know, she'll say some pretty off colored 0:23:24.119 --> 0:23:27.000 things which are part of our relationship, DNA. 0:23:27.080 --> 0:23:28.520 I suppose it's really funny to me. 0:23:29.640 --> 0:23:32.240 Let's talk about the Ogs. That's our spinoff podcast that 0:23:32.280 --> 0:23:34.719 you introduce us right now. You guys are doing the 0:23:34.760 --> 0:23:37.680 recaps of Special Forces, of course because she's on it, 0:23:37.960 --> 0:23:40.360 but you also do a lot with the Golden Bachelor 0:23:40.520 --> 0:23:43.040 why does the Golden Bachelor and Golden Bachelor I prefer 0:23:43.080 --> 0:23:44.200 you guys over us. 0:23:44.760 --> 0:23:46.680 Well, I mean people like to hang out with people 0:23:46.680 --> 0:23:50.520 that are on their same age, you know, I think, and. 0:23:50.480 --> 0:23:53.040 I am definitely that guy. Not trust this so much, 0:23:53.080 --> 0:23:54.119 but me for sure. 0:23:55.040 --> 0:23:57.080 Yeah, it's really crazy when you're talking like the Golden 0:23:57.119 --> 0:23:59.840 Bachelor people and I'm like, I'm like five years younger 0:23:59.840 --> 0:24:01.760 than this is really strange, Bob. 0:24:01.920 --> 0:24:04.359 That is actually almost a true fact. And I feel 0:24:04.640 --> 0:24:07.159 about that for you, I know, I will know. I 0:24:07.200 --> 0:24:10.520 don't know how old Joan and Shok are bisty or 0:24:10.600 --> 0:24:12.520 sixty one and you're fifty. 0:24:12.280 --> 0:24:14.760 Three, fifty three. I mean, it's like we're kind of 0:24:15.119 --> 0:24:15.680 fifty three. 0:24:16.160 --> 0:24:19.080 Oh thanks, I feel like the oldest uh lately with 0:24:19.119 --> 0:24:21.040 my kids not sleeping through the night again, it's the 0:24:21.080 --> 0:24:25.120 sleep aggression, guys. It even comes back at three. But yeah, 0:24:25.240 --> 0:24:28.160 I think, uh, you know, we've loved it. And thank you, guys, 0:24:28.200 --> 0:24:30.640 thank you for letting us, you know, be on your 0:24:30.760 --> 0:24:32.840 stream and for being a part of the whole thing, 0:24:32.880 --> 0:24:35.320 and thanks to Sugarman of course for even thinking of 0:24:35.359 --> 0:24:38.440 the idea for us. It's one of those things. I mean, 0:24:38.520 --> 0:24:41.240 it's really been a lot of fun. I didn't even 0:24:41.240 --> 0:24:44.080 know what a podcast was five years ago, you know, 0:24:44.119 --> 0:24:45.919 and it's like, ID hear people talking about it, I'm like, 0:24:46.240 --> 0:24:47.960 why the hell would you listen to a podcast? 0:24:47.960 --> 0:24:50.080 I can, you know, listen to Pop Rocks, you. 0:24:50.119 --> 0:24:51.760 Know, two thousand and five and I got all my 0:24:51.840 --> 0:24:54.440 music I need, and you know, but it's so fun 0:24:54.480 --> 0:24:57.320 to hear to get to know people and like to 0:24:57.359 --> 0:24:59.879 hear their stories and really, you know, share with that, 0:25:00.119 --> 0:25:02.200 and it makes you think of your own stuff too. 0:25:02.240 --> 0:25:04.040 Like I don't know how many times I'll be done 0:25:04.040 --> 0:25:06.879 interviewing somebody, especially from the Golden Series, and I'll like 0:25:06.920 --> 0:25:07.440 hang up and. 0:25:07.400 --> 0:25:09.960 Go, gosh, I kind of relate to that person. I 0:25:10.000 --> 0:25:10.280 get it. 0:25:10.280 --> 0:25:12.000 I always feeling that way at one point, you know. 0:25:12.040 --> 0:25:15.160 And so yeah, now we're onto the Special Forces thing. 0:25:15.160 --> 0:25:18.480 Trista's on there. She's doing a really great job. First 0:25:18.480 --> 0:25:20.399 episode I watched, I won't lie to you guys, I 0:25:20.400 --> 0:25:22.040 actually got emotional watching it. 0:25:22.400 --> 0:25:24.600 Like I was sitting there by myself because I had 0:25:24.640 --> 0:25:24.920 to wait. 0:25:24.960 --> 0:25:26.920 You know, the kids are bed and everything, and I'm 0:25:26.960 --> 0:25:29.520 watching this person I've known for twenty years, and Trista 0:25:30.119 --> 0:25:32.040 push herself to such a place that was like I 0:25:32.119 --> 0:25:33.880 knew how uncomfortable she had to be, and I knew 0:25:33.920 --> 0:25:35.840 how hard it had to be. And then you start 0:25:35.880 --> 0:25:38.119 thinking about it, like, I mean, I know Ben feels 0:25:38.160 --> 0:25:40.680 this way too. Every guy I know always feels this way. 0:25:40.720 --> 0:25:42.639 But you start thinking, man, can I do that? Like 0:25:42.880 --> 0:25:43.800 should I push myself? 0:25:43.800 --> 0:25:46.160 Should I just put myself in a situations uncomfortable like that? 0:25:46.560 --> 0:25:48.359 And you start wondering if you could do it, And 0:25:48.400 --> 0:25:50.360 then you start hearing in the reasons that motivate these 0:25:50.359 --> 0:25:53.040 people to go on this show because they ask, you know, 0:25:53.160 --> 0:25:55.160 fifty people, I'm sure to get it down to these 0:25:55.200 --> 0:25:58.239 sixteen or whatever, and to hear the reasons that they 0:25:58.240 --> 0:26:00.960 are challenging themselves and it's not a competition show, so 0:26:01.000 --> 0:26:03.639 they're not it doesn't matter who lasts to the end. 0:26:03.680 --> 0:26:06.560 You can, yeah, exactly. And it's like, man, that's just it. 0:26:06.640 --> 0:26:09.920 Like you start wondering, you know, especially at my age, 0:26:10.000 --> 0:26:12.760 right I'm fifty three, I think about it. You know, 0:26:13.240 --> 0:26:15.359 did I peak at thirty two? I guess I did 0:26:15.440 --> 0:26:17.920 when I was a bachelor, you know, and ever since then, 0:26:17.960 --> 0:26:19.840 it's like, you know, twenty years later, it's like, am 0:26:19.920 --> 0:26:22.240 I still like I played college football? Am I still 0:26:22.240 --> 0:26:23.840 an athlete. Can I still get it done if I 0:26:23.880 --> 0:26:25.720 train a little bit, you know, And or am I 0:26:25.800 --> 0:26:28.240 just a dad you know, who's basically an uber for 0:26:28.320 --> 0:26:30.840 my kids and you know, trying to keep all the 0:26:30.960 --> 0:26:32.760 all the balls in the air of my family life. 0:26:32.800 --> 0:26:34.919 And you know, it's it's one of those things you 0:26:34.960 --> 0:26:37.159 do wonder, you know. And and so it's been a 0:26:37.240 --> 0:26:39.800 lot of there's been a lot of interesting conversations with 0:26:39.840 --> 0:26:42.000 everybody that's been on the show, but I think most 0:26:42.000 --> 0:26:44.080 of it's been kind of hearing Trista's connection with these 0:26:44.080 --> 0:26:46.000 people and how she feels such a bond with them 0:26:46.000 --> 0:26:48.320 after going through it. And my dad was a marine, 0:26:48.760 --> 0:26:50.280 so you know, I was the only I was the 0:26:50.320 --> 0:26:52.840 one who didn't go into the Armed service arm forces, 0:26:52.840 --> 0:26:54.680 and so I'm always like, you know, did I drop 0:26:54.720 --> 0:26:56.800 the ball there? Like you know what, like should I 0:26:56.840 --> 0:26:58.720 have done it then? And yeah, it just makes you 0:26:58.760 --> 0:27:02.800 think a lot. But it's been pretty rewarding doing the podcast. 0:27:02.840 --> 0:27:03.200 For sure. 0:27:03.920 --> 0:27:07.439 It's interesting podcasts do that, but it's such a healthy 0:27:07.480 --> 0:27:09.439 habit to get in the I think, get in the 0:27:09.440 --> 0:27:12.200 practice of asking those questions, not always going to the 0:27:12.240 --> 0:27:14.120 place of, oh I dropped the ball right? Life looks 0:27:14.160 --> 0:27:18.359 different for everybody, different paths, different things happen. But it's 0:27:18.520 --> 0:27:20.720 one of the things that this show always does for 0:27:20.800 --> 0:27:22.879 me is it does give me time to reflect and 0:27:22.920 --> 0:27:25.360 ask myself those questions, you know, where am I at? 0:27:25.480 --> 0:27:26.000 Like what am I? 0:27:26.160 --> 0:27:28.760 You know? Who am I? To the people around me? 0:27:29.480 --> 0:27:34.640 And Bob we have a really great interview, a late 0:27:34.760 --> 0:27:38.680 night interview that happened at the baby shower for Jessica 0:27:38.680 --> 0:27:42.080 and I that I heartput on. It has all the 0:27:42.119 --> 0:27:45.480 details of kind of how you decided to have kids, 0:27:45.520 --> 0:27:48.200 how that all worked out the process of having kids, 0:27:48.240 --> 0:27:51.000 what you've learned as a father. Anybody listening right now 0:27:51.080 --> 0:27:56.639 that just wants a very raw, very authentic interview with Bob, 0:27:57.280 --> 0:28:00.600 go back and the thread here and listen to that Evergreen. 0:28:00.640 --> 0:28:03.120 I mean, it talks about Bob's story, you know, being 0:28:03.119 --> 0:28:05.520 a father at what were you forty seven? 0:28:05.560 --> 0:28:06.880 I think forty seven, forty eight? 0:28:06.960 --> 0:28:07.320 Yeah? 0:28:07.440 --> 0:28:10.520 Yeah, yeah, I mean Grayson's six now, so I was 0:28:10.560 --> 0:28:11.160 forty seven. 0:28:11.320 --> 0:28:14.520 Yeah yeah. It's a great interview or just a great conversation. 0:28:14.600 --> 0:28:15.840 I think that a lot of people can learn a 0:28:15.880 --> 0:28:18.760 lot from and the closing moments here I do want 0:28:18.800 --> 0:28:21.000 to lean into your time as the Bachelor, because you 0:28:21.480 --> 0:28:24.960 were the Bachelor. Do you my first question before we 0:28:24.960 --> 0:28:26.679 even get going here, and I ask a bunch of 0:28:27.080 --> 0:28:29.000 questions that you might not even have an answer to. 0:28:29.080 --> 0:28:30.280 Do you even remember the season? 0:28:31.600 --> 0:28:33.880 Yeah, that's the one thing, you know, It's it's kind 0:28:33.920 --> 0:28:36.240 of burned in my brain for the most part, I think. 0:28:36.080 --> 0:28:38.440 Because I don't. I don't remember a lot of my season. 0:28:38.560 --> 0:28:40.560 Like you could say stuff and I'll be like, oh, 0:28:40.560 --> 0:28:45.160 I remember that, yeah, but like I couldn't recall the moment, 0:28:45.200 --> 0:28:48.560 the small moments, or all the things that happened very easily. 0:28:48.640 --> 0:28:50.480 And I didn't mean that as like a dig like oh, 0:28:50.520 --> 0:28:52.040 it's so long ago. I meant it as like a 0:28:52.800 --> 0:28:55.360 it was such a flash, and it's such a blur 0:28:55.440 --> 0:28:55.680 to me. 0:28:55.720 --> 0:28:57.960 Now, right, Yeah, I see what you mean. I mean, yeah, 0:28:58.000 --> 0:29:01.120 I remember the broad strokes, you know. I remember the 0:29:02.040 --> 0:29:05.720 wide brush moments, I suppose, and the things that you know, 0:29:05.800 --> 0:29:08.080 I carry with me, like you know, I remember the 0:29:08.080 --> 0:29:11.240 moments of just like all out fatigue, right, Like you know, 0:29:12.320 --> 0:29:15.440 I always reference one moment in particular where and it's 0:29:15.440 --> 0:29:16.720 almost like I'm making fun of the show to a 0:29:16.720 --> 0:29:18.200 certain degree, but I'm like, yeah, they want you to 0:29:18.200 --> 0:29:21.040 make all these you know, life changing decisions, but you 0:29:21.080 --> 0:29:23.320 know they've they've got a half gallon of Tito's down 0:29:23.400 --> 0:29:25.640 your neck and they throw you on a private jet 0:29:25.680 --> 0:29:28.600 to Vegas and then as you as you spend the 0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:30.840 you know, the better part of an evening and into 0:29:30.920 --> 0:29:33.200 the wee morning hours, they fly you back. And then 0:29:33.200 --> 0:29:35.160 when you think you're going to go to bed, they 0:29:35.200 --> 0:29:36.880 throw you in a new outfit and say, okay, sit 0:29:36.920 --> 0:29:38.720 down and talk about the date, and then we're gonna 0:29:38.720 --> 0:29:40.720 go hot air balloon riding at six am. You're like, 0:29:40.760 --> 0:29:44.640 what I remember? I remember that in particular. It's like 0:29:44.800 --> 0:29:48.080 a force turnaround time for me. That was like, wow, 0:29:48.200 --> 0:29:51.160 you know, how am I supposed to you know, even 0:29:51.320 --> 0:29:54.080 have conversations at that point, But strangely enough, I guess 0:29:54.120 --> 0:29:54.480 I did it. 0:29:54.560 --> 0:29:57.400 But you know, yeah, I remember the big stuff. 0:29:57.480 --> 0:30:00.240 I think, you know, there's probably some moments that that 0:30:00.240 --> 0:30:02.200 that if someone would have told me they happened, I'd 0:30:02.200 --> 0:30:05.200 be like, oh, okay, maybe they did, you know, But yeah, 0:30:05.200 --> 0:30:08.520 I remember it, and I definitely, you know, I say 0:30:08.520 --> 0:30:10.760 I savor some of those moments too, because they were 0:30:11.240 --> 0:30:14.520 I think I'm really bad at being in the moment 0:30:14.600 --> 0:30:18.240 and realizing that I should really savor that moment, you know. 0:30:18.520 --> 0:30:20.480 And and I'm one of those people that. 0:30:20.560 --> 0:30:23.320 Just assumes I'll remember it all and it's going to 0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:26.400 happen again next time, too, right, And so I'm definitely 0:30:26.440 --> 0:30:27.760 not one of the people that pulls out my phone, 0:30:27.840 --> 0:30:30.640 much to my wife's chagrin, Like I never am documenting 0:30:30.720 --> 0:30:33.959 things which I should. I'm just a guy that's just 0:30:34.040 --> 0:30:36.680 in it happened to Blast, and you know, assuming I'm 0:30:36.680 --> 0:30:37.400 going to remember it all. 0:30:37.440 --> 0:30:40.400 But yeah, I do remember most of the big moments of. 0:30:40.400 --> 0:30:43.160 The show, and you know, really treasure the relationships I 0:30:43.240 --> 0:30:44.240 made as a result of them. 0:30:44.920 --> 0:30:46.680 Did either of you have Bachelor diaries? 0:30:47.880 --> 0:30:47.960 No? 0:30:48.120 --> 0:30:48.600 I didn't. 0:30:48.880 --> 0:30:51.960 Oh my god, is the most embarrassing thing to reread? 0:30:52.720 --> 0:30:54.680 Is it? Really? 0:30:54.040 --> 0:30:57.560 I have some stuff I wrote down. They're more like prayers. 0:30:58.040 --> 0:31:00.640 I was kind of like Bob. I was tired of frustrated, 0:31:00.680 --> 0:31:03.560 I was emotional, I was confused, and so a lot 0:31:03.600 --> 0:31:06.680 of times it was just like, I need three minutes 0:31:06.760 --> 0:31:09.440 to write so I can get some of these thoughts 0:31:09.480 --> 0:31:11.480 out of my head onto paper, so I can like 0:31:11.520 --> 0:31:14.440 come back tonight and revisit them because I'm not going 0:31:14.520 --> 0:31:18.800 to remember why I was all sad today. It's a whirlwind. 0:31:19.240 --> 0:31:22.720 In fact, you know, if I was thirty five and single, 0:31:22.760 --> 0:31:24.360 I don't know if I could say yes to doing it. 0:31:24.400 --> 0:31:26.520 I don't know if I have this, DaMina. There is 0:31:26.600 --> 0:31:30.200 one person though that I know, Bob, I relate with that. 0:31:30.240 --> 0:31:32.400 But there is one person I think that savored the moment, 0:31:32.560 --> 0:31:35.120 and maybe the only lead that I know that really did. 0:31:37.280 --> 0:31:41.760 Jojo talks about like how much fun she had and 0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:45.040 how enjoyable the experience was. I wish I would have 0:31:45.040 --> 0:31:47.280 had more of that mentality. I wish I would enjoyed 0:31:47.320 --> 0:31:49.640 it more because it was more like a work, like 0:31:49.760 --> 0:31:53.000 I'm going I'm here intentionally to do one thing to 0:31:53.120 --> 0:31:56.880 find somebody, and it's going to be hard. The rest 0:31:56.880 --> 0:31:57.920 of the way you did have. 0:31:58.240 --> 0:31:58.960 I was a hybrid. 0:31:59.040 --> 0:32:00.920 I think I was a hybridween you guys, because I 0:32:01.000 --> 0:32:04.680 really like, I really enjoyed the moments until they got 0:32:04.960 --> 0:32:07.600 really real at the end, and then I felt Then 0:32:07.640 --> 0:32:09.760 I felt like it was grueling to try and figure 0:32:09.800 --> 0:32:11.000 out the right thing. 0:32:11.160 --> 0:32:13.840 I was always weary of hurting people feelings. Yeah, that 0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:25.160 was my big thing, Bob. 0:32:25.200 --> 0:32:27.800 We are going to dive into the season. There is 0:32:27.840 --> 0:32:30.520 a moment that people still talk about Uh, that became 0:32:30.560 --> 0:32:32.960 a very big moment for you. During the season. There's 0:32:33.000 --> 0:32:34.719 a moment with Kelly Joe where you told her she 0:32:34.920 --> 0:32:39.120 isn't the one, and the reaction I think brought in 0:32:39.240 --> 0:32:41.800 the audience's attention. Can you tell us more about what 0:32:41.840 --> 0:32:42.720 was actually happening? 0:32:43.320 --> 0:32:46.040 Yeah, well, you know it was she was of my 0:32:46.160 --> 0:32:50.320 final two, and it came down to that moment, you know, 0:32:50.360 --> 0:32:53.280 the big the big reveal, when you're standing there surrounded 0:32:53.320 --> 0:32:55.200 by flowers and you're in a tuxedo and they're in 0:32:55.200 --> 0:32:58.400 they're beautiful gowns, and I mean, truth be told. 0:32:58.600 --> 0:33:00.040 Uh. I. 0:33:00.280 --> 0:33:02.840 You know, I've often thought about this when people will say, 0:33:02.840 --> 0:33:04.880 you know, oh, I don't know how you could be 0:33:04.920 --> 0:33:06.040 even confused at that moment. 0:33:06.080 --> 0:33:07.360 You know, you either know or you don't. 0:33:07.440 --> 0:33:11.040 And and I was still very confused. I was still 0:33:11.120 --> 0:33:13.200 kind of trying to put it together, the emotions and 0:33:13.240 --> 0:33:14.160 what I was going to do? 0:33:14.760 --> 0:33:16.800 Am I going to propose? Am I not? What am 0:33:16.840 --> 0:33:17.760 I doing here? You know? 0:33:18.480 --> 0:33:22.800 And and back back then the show was a lot 0:33:22.840 --> 0:33:24.960 more formulaic in the way that they presented it. You know, 0:33:25.040 --> 0:33:27.440 so if if you know when they're cutting the show 0:33:27.440 --> 0:33:30.840 together and they know you're choosing girl number two, Well, 0:33:30.840 --> 0:33:33.040 then girl number one is going to be for sure 0:33:33.120 --> 0:33:36.320 head and shoulders above everyone as the clear favorite, right, 0:33:36.400 --> 0:33:39.120 And so it almost was a disservice to the to 0:33:39.200 --> 0:33:42.440 the to the woman that you did select, because then 0:33:42.520 --> 0:33:44.480 you'd start your relationship and everyone's like, well man, I 0:33:44.520 --> 0:33:46.200 mean it looked like you were going to totally be 0:33:46.280 --> 0:33:49.239 with you know, this girl, and it almost created this 0:33:49.320 --> 0:33:51.440 like weirdness that was really difficult I think for people 0:33:51.480 --> 0:33:53.480 to maintain a relationship after that too, because it played 0:33:53.520 --> 0:33:56.280 into all your fears and all your you know, your 0:33:56.480 --> 0:33:59.280 trepidation about being on the show and was he going 0:33:59.320 --> 0:33:59.840 to choose. 0:33:59.640 --> 0:34:01.160 Her until just came down the hill or whatever? 0:34:01.600 --> 0:34:03.680 But anyway, Yeah, Kelly Joe comes down the hill, and 0:34:04.120 --> 0:34:08.360 she's a very bubbly personality, and we definitely. 0:34:07.920 --> 0:34:09.160 Cold acted throughout the whole season. 0:34:09.160 --> 0:34:12.800 I mean, there was no question Kelly Joe and Estella 0:34:12.800 --> 0:34:16.920 who I ended up ultimately choosing or they were the 0:34:16.960 --> 0:34:19.600 clear you know, final two, given the way that I 0:34:19.680 --> 0:34:23.320 had reacted to them and vice versa. And Kelly Joe 0:34:23.800 --> 0:34:26.640 was very spunky to this day, like we've remained friendly. 0:34:26.719 --> 0:34:31.279 She's been on almost famous Dogs actually, Yeah, and and 0:34:31.360 --> 0:34:33.239 she comes down and. 0:34:34.440 --> 0:34:36.440 I you know, they didn't know which order they were 0:34:36.440 --> 0:34:36.919 coming down. 0:34:36.960 --> 0:34:39.520 They didn't know that Estella hadn't already come down, so 0:34:39.560 --> 0:34:42.080 she assumes that she's the one. And when I say, 0:34:42.120 --> 0:34:44.520 you know, I'm telling her how great she is, and 0:34:44.560 --> 0:34:48.040 I'm like butt, and oh my god. When I say 0:34:48.040 --> 0:34:51.920 the word you know, but or however or whatever I said, 0:34:53.080 --> 0:34:56.240 she's holding my hands and I remember her just whipping 0:34:56.280 --> 0:34:58.400 them down and just looking at me like she was 0:34:58.400 --> 0:35:01.560 gonna punch me in the face. And the look was legit, 0:35:01.800 --> 0:35:04.080 Like I mean, I was like there was some fear 0:35:04.160 --> 0:35:06.360 I'm not gonna lie because she was that spunky and 0:35:06.400 --> 0:35:08.839 that fiery, and I was like, oh my god, she's 0:35:08.880 --> 0:35:12.320 gonna she's gonna totally punch me out. And she didn't, thankfully. 0:35:12.360 --> 0:35:14.719 But then when I said, she like turned around to 0:35:14.760 --> 0:35:16.640 walk away, and I'm like, hold on, you know, may 0:35:16.640 --> 0:35:19.080 I walk you back to the car and she's like fine, 0:35:19.280 --> 0:35:21.640 you know, And you know, that was the first time 0:35:21.680 --> 0:35:25.160 I think that the that the reaction was such on 0:35:25.200 --> 0:35:28.239 the show, because I was still early on, and I 0:35:28.280 --> 0:35:31.160 think up until that point people were sad when they 0:35:31.160 --> 0:35:35.040 didn't get the final rows, but they weren't mad. And man, 0:35:35.160 --> 0:35:37.680 she was mad, and I'll never forget it because I 0:35:37.800 --> 0:35:39.799 was talking about that even when we're going on the 0:35:39.840 --> 0:35:42.440 tour to parade around, you know, Estella and I to 0:35:42.480 --> 0:35:45.040 talk about our relationship and where we're at with things, 0:35:45.080 --> 0:35:47.560 and they're asking about Kelly Joe and why she was 0:35:47.600 --> 0:35:49.160 you know, she was all pissed off, and you know, 0:35:49.600 --> 0:35:51.879 it was crazy. It was a crazy experience for sure, 0:35:51.880 --> 0:35:54.680 and it definitely set the tone for you know, a 0:35:54.680 --> 0:35:55.799 lot of things to come after that. 0:35:57.120 --> 0:35:59.319 Yeah, have you talked to Escella at all in the 0:35:59.320 --> 0:36:00.200 past twenty years? 0:36:00.360 --> 0:36:04.759 Oh? Yeah, yeah, Stella, I we we had coffee a 0:36:04.760 --> 0:36:08.920 few times and you know, definitely had a nice closure. 0:36:09.000 --> 0:36:12.040 I guess it would be too our relationship and she's 0:36:12.080 --> 0:36:14.520 been a gust on almost famous the ogs too, because 0:36:14.520 --> 0:36:15.879 there was a period of time where we were having 0:36:15.960 --> 0:36:18.719 like every ex I've ever had in my life on 0:36:18.760 --> 0:36:19.120 the show. 0:36:19.640 --> 0:36:21.520 I'm like, Hey, Trista, when are we gonna have Charlie 0:36:21.520 --> 0:36:22.839 on What the hell? Yeah? 0:36:23.080 --> 0:36:25.359 I still I had I have still yet to do that. 0:36:25.719 --> 0:36:26.520 We've had Jojo. 0:36:27.200 --> 0:36:30.040 Yeah, it was a long time coming, Jojo, it's coming. 0:36:30.280 --> 0:36:31.239 You want to do that too. 0:36:31.640 --> 0:36:34.040 Remember Nick did that where he had like all of 0:36:34.040 --> 0:36:36.360 his season of girls. Come on, do you want to 0:36:36.400 --> 0:36:36.640 do that? 0:36:36.760 --> 0:36:37.960 Do you want to have all your girls? 0:36:37.960 --> 0:36:38.239 Come on? 0:36:38.320 --> 0:36:39.640 We can surprise you tomorrow. 0:36:39.760 --> 0:36:44.279 Yeah, personally, I for your season and because you have 0:36:44.320 --> 0:36:47.520 a Bachelor episode as well, for recapping your season. 0:36:47.960 --> 0:36:48.880 Oh my goodness. 0:36:49.200 --> 0:36:51.880 So maybe we should just surprise you tomorrow. 0:36:52.239 --> 0:36:54.600 There's nothing that would stop me now. I mean I 0:36:54.600 --> 0:36:57.920 think I think initially Bob and I sit in the 0:36:57.960 --> 0:37:00.440 same place where this experience is very real us, and 0:37:00.480 --> 0:37:02.440 I think it is. I think everybody wants it to 0:37:02.480 --> 0:37:05.920 be and hopes it is. It isn't always that way. 0:37:06.760 --> 0:37:08.319 Some people get out of this and they're like, I, 0:37:08.440 --> 0:37:10.920 you know, I don't mind talking all because like nothing 0:37:11.000 --> 0:37:14.000 was like actually ever real next, nothing ever was felt, 0:37:14.719 --> 0:37:16.720 And so I think when you feel it, it's harder 0:37:16.840 --> 0:37:19.000 to then even get to a place where you're like, 0:37:19.080 --> 0:37:21.120 I would love to talk to you again, Like that's 0:37:21.120 --> 0:37:23.680 not a normal human response to like talking to people 0:37:23.719 --> 0:37:27.319 that you've dated. At this point in my life, I 0:37:27.320 --> 0:37:32.080 would have no issues because you know, life has moved 0:37:32.120 --> 0:37:35.279 on for everybody in beautiful ways, and so now it's like, yeah, 0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:39.000 that could be fun, especially people would listen. I would 0:37:39.040 --> 0:37:40.440 love to do that. 0:37:40.800 --> 0:37:42.239 Well, I think that's a part of it too, though. 0:37:42.560 --> 0:37:44.719 You're in a great place, right. It's like when you're 0:37:44.760 --> 0:37:46.600 in a great place and they're in a great place, 0:37:46.719 --> 0:37:48.040 you know. Like one of the things I loved about 0:37:48.080 --> 0:37:50.360 talking to Estella when we did was, you know, she 0:37:50.400 --> 0:37:53.480 had gotten engaged and now she's married, and it was like, okay, 0:37:53.560 --> 0:37:56.359 you know now and I've got I'm happily married with kids. 0:37:56.360 --> 0:37:59.640 It's like, okay, now we can all kumbaya, right, and 0:37:59.680 --> 0:38:01.960 we can reminisce and you know, and you keep it 0:38:02.040 --> 0:38:03.480 light right. You don't have to you don't have to 0:38:03.480 --> 0:38:05.319 go down the rabbit hole on anything because no one, 0:38:05.440 --> 0:38:09.000 you know, cares anymore. You don't care, but no reason to, 0:38:09.160 --> 0:38:12.080 you know. But yeah, I actually didn't mind it. I 0:38:12.280 --> 0:38:15.280 actually was was kind of excited about it, to be honest, 0:38:15.320 --> 0:38:17.359 because I knew I was in a good place with 0:38:17.400 --> 0:38:17.919 both of them. 0:38:17.960 --> 0:38:21.080 So they have them on the show, you know, made. 0:38:20.920 --> 0:38:24.080 Me feel i don't know, some some sort of like 0:38:24.120 --> 0:38:27.200 you know, accomplishment and some sort of closure. That was 0:38:26.960 --> 0:38:28.799 a was a positive thing all the way around, because 0:38:28.800 --> 0:38:30.600 we were all in such great places personally. 0:38:31.200 --> 0:38:33.799 Yeah, it's great with me. I mean, I've said it 0:38:33.840 --> 0:38:36.600 many times in the show. But you know, Chris Lane 0:38:36.600 --> 0:38:39.600 and I text about golf all the time. I think 0:38:39.600 --> 0:38:42.279 he's an awesome dude, So like, why not then go 0:38:42.320 --> 0:38:44.479 one step further bring him on too. Let's all chat 0:38:44.600 --> 0:38:45.640 like it would. 0:38:45.440 --> 0:38:48.160 Be fun, It would be. 0:38:48.120 --> 0:38:50.759 Great, Bob. This is kind of coming off of our 0:38:50.800 --> 0:38:54.440 conversation though, has Kanyon watched your season? 0:38:55.080 --> 0:38:59.040 So again, Kenyon was Kenyon's much younger than me. Obviously 0:38:59.120 --> 0:39:01.520 she's she's your jelling me. So she just turned forty 0:39:01.560 --> 0:39:03.840 one this year, so I think she was a senior 0:39:03.840 --> 0:39:04.480 in high school. 0:39:04.480 --> 0:39:07.359 Would that be right math wise? Yeah, she was born 0:39:07.360 --> 0:39:07.839 in eighty four. 0:39:07.960 --> 0:39:09.520 She been freshman in college. 0:39:09.640 --> 0:39:13.120 Maybe a freshman college. Okay, So you know, the big 0:39:13.239 --> 0:39:14.160 joke always. 0:39:13.840 --> 0:39:16.080 Between Canyon and I was that her mom was the 0:39:16.120 --> 0:39:17.520 fan of the show and knew who I was. 0:39:17.520 --> 0:39:19.160 But Canyon, you know, Kenye didn't care. 0:39:19.280 --> 0:39:22.239 So needs to say, I unearthed a few different times 0:39:22.280 --> 0:39:24.640 when I caught her actually having some knowledge of things 0:39:24.640 --> 0:39:26.680 that she shouldn't have known had she not watched any 0:39:26.719 --> 0:39:27.280 of my season. 0:39:27.880 --> 0:39:29.480 But yeah, she had never watched it. 0:39:29.520 --> 0:39:33.080 So my brother in law and my sister had of 0:39:33.120 --> 0:39:35.480 course taped every episode or whatever, but they did it 0:39:35.520 --> 0:39:37.440 on TVO. Back in the day that was supposed to 0:39:37.440 --> 0:39:39.520 be the new cutting edge technology. It would be around forever. 0:39:40.160 --> 0:39:42.040 So we had to dig the TVO out of the 0:39:42.040 --> 0:39:44.120 attic and like plug it into a TV because she's like, 0:39:44.160 --> 0:39:47.000 I really want to see this. I was super uncomfortable. 0:39:47.000 --> 0:39:48.600 I'm not gonna lie. I'm like, oh my god, are you. 0:39:48.640 --> 0:39:49.440 Sure you want to see this? 0:39:49.520 --> 0:39:51.640 I'm not sure that this is a good idea. And 0:39:51.960 --> 0:39:56.080 thankfully and much too like she loves this part. When 0:39:56.080 --> 0:39:57.880 we plugged it into the back of the TV, the 0:39:57.920 --> 0:40:00.359 connections weren't the same and so it was actually black 0:40:00.400 --> 0:40:01.520 and white. 0:40:03.120 --> 0:40:05.160 Oh my god. That just fed her narrative. 0:40:05.200 --> 0:40:06.520 You know, she's like, oh my, and why don't we 0:40:06.560 --> 0:40:08.960 get eight millimeter? I was like, you know, okay on 0:40:09.000 --> 0:40:11.239 the show, is there is there solid on this or 0:40:11.280 --> 0:40:13.359 was this you know, silent silent Bachelor Day? 0:40:14.200 --> 0:40:15.680 But it was, you know, it was pretty funny. 0:40:15.719 --> 0:40:18.040 And she watched the first like fifteen minutes of it 0:40:18.080 --> 0:40:20.120 and she was like, okay, I'm good because it was like, 0:40:20.160 --> 0:40:22.600 you know, they do the this season I'm the Bachelor, 0:40:22.640 --> 0:40:26.000 and it's like, you know, the whole thing, and you know, 0:40:26.160 --> 0:40:28.240 she got to see me like make out with fifty people, 0:40:28.280 --> 0:40:30.239 and so she was over it, you know, but I 0:40:30.280 --> 0:40:32.040 think it was one of those. 0:40:31.840 --> 0:40:33.480 Things where it was it was definitely. 0:40:33.600 --> 0:40:35.879 I'm glad she got a little synopsis because she hears 0:40:35.880 --> 0:40:38.759 about it all the time from people, and she can 0:40:38.840 --> 0:40:40.680 at least say I watched all I needed to watch 0:40:40.680 --> 0:40:41.680 of that season or whatever. 0:40:41.800 --> 0:40:41.960 You know. 0:40:43.040 --> 0:40:44.920 Her favorite thing to say is, yeah, it's all fun 0:40:44.920 --> 0:40:48.440 and games until you live with it, so that's probably 0:40:48.480 --> 0:40:51.680 pretty accurate. But no, to answer your question, no, she's 0:40:51.719 --> 0:40:55.160 never actually watched my season, but like she says, she's 0:40:55.200 --> 0:40:57.280 she's heard enough about it for a lifetime. 0:40:57.840 --> 0:41:01.480 So you're telling me that you can't find your season anywhere, 0:41:01.760 --> 0:41:04.520 because this is what Prince Lorenzo. 0:41:04.080 --> 0:41:05.200 Told us as well. 0:41:05.320 --> 0:41:07.239 And Prince Lorenzo bergheasy, I love this. 0:41:07.920 --> 0:41:09.960 He came on our podcast and he was like, you 0:41:09.960 --> 0:41:13.040 can't find my season anywhere, and I haven't been able to. 0:41:13.480 --> 0:41:16.200 And I had no idea that if you have an 0:41:16.200 --> 0:41:18.759 old TiVo around you could put it in and kick 0:41:18.800 --> 0:41:19.400 start that thing. 0:41:19.840 --> 0:41:21.360 He's got to like put some gas in it and 0:41:21.400 --> 0:41:25.040 fire it up. Yeah, my I've been told from some 0:41:25.080 --> 0:41:27.560 people that was on that were on my season that 0:41:27.880 --> 0:41:30.160 you can find it on like you know, the Hulu 0:41:30.239 --> 0:41:31.280 annals or something. 0:41:31.080 --> 0:41:31.640 Of that nature. 0:41:31.680 --> 0:41:33.120 But what's a Hulu annal? 0:41:33.600 --> 0:41:34.279 I don't know, like. 0:41:34.239 --> 0:41:36.280 You can go somewhere and find it like on old 0:41:36.400 --> 0:41:39.279 seasons past. I've never I've never spent too much time 0:41:39.360 --> 0:41:41.800 going to look for it. If I'm being really honest, 0:41:42.760 --> 0:41:45.680 I know there's some VHS tapes somewhere in my parents' 0:41:45.719 --> 0:41:48.120 basement that's uh, you know, got all documented for me 0:41:48.160 --> 0:41:51.080 when it's time to show the kids. But actually, to 0:41:51.160 --> 0:41:53.760 be really funny, you guys, you got so my son Grayson, 0:41:53.800 --> 0:41:57.640 who's six. I I know Ben probably has heard me 0:41:57.640 --> 0:42:00.600 talk about this before, but my son is really he's 0:42:00.719 --> 0:42:02.359 he's a big personality. 0:42:01.840 --> 0:42:03.120 And I don't know where he gets it from. 0:42:03.440 --> 0:42:06.279 And we were literally like we'll be at McDonald's at 0:42:06.280 --> 0:42:08.279 the playland and they'll be playing and I'll order, like, 0:42:08.320 --> 0:42:11.239 you know, a coffee and a couple of happy meals, right, 0:42:11.280 --> 0:42:15.200 and the woman will come over with the tray, you know, 0:42:15.239 --> 0:42:17.319 with the coffee and the happy meals, and he'll be 0:42:17.360 --> 0:42:18.680 on the playscape and he'll go. 0:42:19.440 --> 0:42:21.520 It's him. Yeah, you can get a picture with him 0:42:21.520 --> 0:42:22.000 if you want. 0:42:22.120 --> 0:42:25.640 It's it's Bachelor Bob, or he'll or he'll call me 0:42:25.680 --> 0:42:26.360 Bob the Builder. 0:42:26.440 --> 0:42:27.600 He'll go, it's Bob the Builder. 0:42:27.960 --> 0:42:30.520 He'll interchange them all the time, and I'm just like, 0:42:30.600 --> 0:42:33.439 oh my gosh. And I'm like, honey, he's dropping off 0:42:33.880 --> 0:42:36.040 a coffee, she's dropping off the happy meal. 0:42:36.080 --> 0:42:36.200 Bro. 0:42:36.320 --> 0:42:38.560 She doesn't she's twelve. She doesn't know who I am, 0:42:39.000 --> 0:42:41.960 you know. But it's like, he loves it. If anyone 0:42:42.000 --> 0:42:44.160 stops to talk to me, like to ask for directions, 0:42:44.360 --> 0:42:47.239 like I swear to you, he'll go, he'll take a 0:42:47.239 --> 0:42:47.799 picture with you. 0:42:47.920 --> 0:42:48.560 Yeah, he'll do it. 0:42:48.600 --> 0:42:50.920 Hey that they want to, I'm like, buddy, they're asking 0:42:51.000 --> 0:42:53.280 if you know seven eleven's up here on the corner. 0:42:53.360 --> 0:42:54.400 They're good. 0:42:54.719 --> 0:42:57.480 So it's become comical to me because my wife like 0:42:57.719 --> 0:42:59.600 loves it. And I think he gets some of his 0:43:00.000 --> 0:43:01.880 sense of humor from his mom because she likes to 0:43:01.920 --> 0:43:05.560 put me in uncomfortable spots. But yeah, I think it'll 0:43:05.600 --> 0:43:08.480 be fun someday, you know, to let them see some 0:43:08.560 --> 0:43:11.360 of that stuff. I hope I can hang. 0:43:11.160 --> 0:43:12.839 On to mind it. I've been trying to search right 0:43:12.880 --> 0:43:15.000 now while you've been telling the story. And that's a 0:43:15.120 --> 0:43:17.080 hilarious story and I'm obsessed with it. And yeah, if 0:43:17.080 --> 0:43:19.680 you want to download illegal things. We could definitely get it. 0:43:20.040 --> 0:43:22.960 Why can't just ABC give us these things? I want 0:43:23.000 --> 0:43:24.879 the full series on DVD as well. 0:43:25.080 --> 0:43:27.080 Well, no, you think they would like they'd want it 0:43:27.120 --> 0:43:27.400 out there. 0:43:27.400 --> 0:43:30.400 I don't know what I want is all the footage 0:43:30.400 --> 0:43:33.719 from Jared and My Paradise that never made air, Like 0:43:33.800 --> 0:43:35.759 I want to see all the embarrassing the. 0:43:35.760 --> 0:43:38.480 Cutting room floor. I bet there were so many great moments. 0:43:38.880 --> 0:43:39.440 I don't know why. 0:43:39.480 --> 0:43:41.160 You know, we didn't know each other then, obviously, but 0:43:41.239 --> 0:43:46.160 I remember feeling such a I was so happy for 0:43:46.239 --> 0:43:49.840 you when you guys finally and you knew it all along, 0:43:50.000 --> 0:43:52.759 and I was always like, God, I was like, I 0:43:52.760 --> 0:43:54.439 felt like we were such good friends then. 0:43:54.520 --> 0:43:55.440 And it's funny. 0:43:55.600 --> 0:43:58.120 I see why people like gravitate to certain people from 0:43:58.160 --> 0:44:00.880 the show, because I would the same way. I was 0:44:00.880 --> 0:44:02.480 like fangirling all over you. 0:44:02.520 --> 0:44:03.880 I was like, oh my god, I love it. You know, 0:44:03.920 --> 0:44:07.200 this is so great that they're together. Yeah, I thank you. 0:44:07.800 --> 0:44:08.680 You're very welcome. 0:44:19.360 --> 0:44:23.920 Bob Gott to end with this fun questions about the 0:44:24.000 --> 0:44:27.560 delivery room, because that, of course, is going to be 0:44:27.719 --> 0:44:30.040 in that room within the next thirty days. 0:44:30.080 --> 0:44:30.480 I want to know. 0:44:31.239 --> 0:44:32.400 I'm so excited for you. 0:44:32.480 --> 0:44:34.640 Ben let's get a little dad perspective. 0:44:35.080 --> 0:44:38.360 Yeah, what was something in the delivery room that you 0:44:38.400 --> 0:44:42.120 didn't expect, something about getting to the hospital or anything 0:44:42.160 --> 0:44:42.440 like that. 0:44:42.680 --> 0:44:44.840 Yeah, well, you know, we had been given so much advice. 0:44:44.880 --> 0:44:47.680 We were living in Seattle at the time, and Kenyon 0:44:47.800 --> 0:44:50.880 is a tough chick, and so like, you know, she 0:44:50.960 --> 0:44:53.719 wouldn't even really let on that she was, you know, 0:44:54.080 --> 0:44:57.080 having minor contractions and everything, because we were told, like, 0:44:57.440 --> 0:44:59.480 the last thing you want to do is be early 0:44:59.520 --> 0:45:02.320 to the hospital. They'll send you home, make sure you're 0:45:02.600 --> 0:45:04.400 you know, you make sure you're in the right place. 0:45:04.200 --> 0:45:04.839 When you get there. 0:45:05.239 --> 0:45:08.120 And so we might have waited a little too long 0:45:08.160 --> 0:45:11.759 because the Lions were playing and I was you know, 0:45:12.080 --> 0:45:15.400 it was it was December. It was December second technically, 0:45:15.480 --> 0:45:17.600 but she didn't deliver till a third. 0:45:18.480 --> 0:45:19.960 But I was like, oh no, you know, they said 0:45:20.000 --> 0:45:21.720 we can wait. You know, I was trying to be casual. 0:45:21.760 --> 0:45:23.640 I had my go bag, was ready, I was good 0:45:23.680 --> 0:45:26.560 to go, you know, and but I was trying to 0:45:26.680 --> 0:45:29.120 like prolong it a little because we actually lived relatively 0:45:29.120 --> 0:45:32.759 close to the hospital too. So I will say this, 0:45:33.400 --> 0:45:36.880 when we got to the hospital, it got real fast, 0:45:37.000 --> 0:45:39.160 you know, like even though she hadn't delivered, she didn't 0:45:39.200 --> 0:45:42.960 deliver for a while, and I was just all of 0:45:43.000 --> 0:45:45.680 a sudden, I mean, don't you know, and Ben, there 0:45:45.760 --> 0:45:47.879 is no one and Ashley and I have talked about 0:45:47.880 --> 0:45:50.600 this before. There is no one born to be a 0:45:50.680 --> 0:45:54.239 dad more Higgins. I mean, there's no one more more 0:45:54.280 --> 0:45:56.360 and I and I think of myself as this is 0:45:56.400 --> 0:45:59.120 my calling too, and I think you're like HEAs and 0:45:59.120 --> 0:46:03.359 shoulders above me. So I feel like, no matter what, 0:46:03.520 --> 0:46:05.719 you're not ready for it. Okay, So let's just get 0:46:05.719 --> 0:46:08.120 that out of the way. Then you get there, and 0:46:08.520 --> 0:46:12.440 you'll you'll never love your wife more than in that moment, 0:46:12.520 --> 0:46:15.360 and then you'll never love anyone more than that baby 0:46:16.160 --> 0:46:18.480 from that point on in your life. It's like it 0:46:19.160 --> 0:46:24.000 changed my life, honestly, God cry. Then you'll be a 0:46:24.000 --> 0:46:24.920 mess like me, you know. 0:46:25.320 --> 0:46:27.719 I know I will. That's the part I'm holding on too. 0:46:27.800 --> 0:46:32.000 I'm doing every like masculine, non emotional. 0:46:31.560 --> 0:46:36.000 Thing up until yeah, because because then your life's over. 0:46:36.120 --> 0:46:37.920 Then you're a total puddle like me every time I 0:46:38.000 --> 0:46:38.880 talk about my kids. 0:46:38.880 --> 0:46:41.280 But yeah, I'm just going to be a mess. 0:46:41.480 --> 0:46:42.600 But I'll say this, you know. 0:46:42.640 --> 0:46:45.799 So Canyon was going to try and deliver naturally, and 0:46:45.840 --> 0:46:49.560 so she went through all of it and then all 0:46:49.600 --> 0:46:51.960 of a sudden they're like, nope, uh, we're gonna have 0:46:51.960 --> 0:46:52.799 to go see section right. 0:46:52.840 --> 0:46:55.000 So we go in. I'm expecting. 0:46:55.880 --> 0:46:58.800 I'm super stoked because now I'm going to get scrubs 0:46:59.080 --> 0:47:01.440 and so this, for whatever reason, was my primary thing. 0:47:01.880 --> 0:47:03.840 I'm like, wait, can I you know, so my scrubbing in, 0:47:03.880 --> 0:47:05.920 am I you know, am I getting the blue hat? 0:47:05.960 --> 0:47:08.160 And and I don't. I don't get any of that. 0:47:08.200 --> 0:47:12.319 They threw me like this yellow plastic shirt, and I, 0:47:12.400 --> 0:47:14.200 you know, I wasn't in the greatest shape, and they're like, 0:47:14.239 --> 0:47:15.480 you know, you got to take off your shirt cause 0:47:15.480 --> 0:47:16.439 you're gonna be the skin on skin. 0:47:16.520 --> 0:47:19.480 I'm like what. And I wasn't prepared for any of that. 0:47:19.960 --> 0:47:22.879 And so we go in. I'm in this horrible clown outfit. 0:47:22.560 --> 0:47:24.399 And I feel like I'm really feeling like I got 0:47:24.440 --> 0:47:27.680 shafted on that regard. But I'm right up there and 0:47:28.000 --> 0:47:29.880 they're like, you know, well, where do you want to be. 0:47:29.920 --> 0:47:32.279 I'm like, I'm a shoulders guy. I'm up here, you know. 0:47:32.360 --> 0:47:36.439 And so that was number one. But then Kenyon, I'll 0:47:36.440 --> 0:47:39.000 never forget it. Kanyon started having like almost like she 0:47:39.160 --> 0:47:41.600 was in shock, like she started shaking really bad. 0:47:42.000 --> 0:47:42.880 That's very common. 0:47:43.239 --> 0:47:43.880 Is that common? 0:47:44.200 --> 0:47:46.440 Yes, my sister in law just had one and she goes. 0:47:46.280 --> 0:47:51.880 I was shivering while being caught open. Yeah, convulsing, she 0:47:52.000 --> 0:47:54.680 said it revulsing, So be prepared if she needs a 0:47:54.719 --> 0:47:55.200 sea section. 0:47:55.680 --> 0:47:56.800 I'm like, oh my god. 0:47:57.600 --> 0:48:00.439 When they pulled Grace making him out right now, oh yeah, 0:48:00.480 --> 0:48:01.960 they pulled Grayceon out and they take him over to 0:48:02.000 --> 0:48:04.640 this warming station and they're cleaning them up and they're 0:48:04.680 --> 0:48:09.239 like okay Dad, and I am crazy wanting to be there, 0:48:09.360 --> 0:48:10.640 but I can't leave canyon. 0:48:11.120 --> 0:48:12.719 So I'm just like I'm just staying here. 0:48:12.880 --> 0:48:16.439 And I'm like, okay, you know, all the fingers, all talls, 0:48:16.480 --> 0:48:18.960 you everything good. They're like yeah, I'm like you got that. 0:48:19.400 --> 0:48:20.960 I'll be there as soon as she's okay. I just 0:48:21.000 --> 0:48:22.560 don't want to leave her because someone come over and 0:48:22.600 --> 0:48:24.320 help her. And because I was, I was all of 0:48:24.320 --> 0:48:25.880 a sudden like I don't want to leave her alone. 0:48:25.880 --> 0:48:27.440 And she's looking at me like you know, don't go, 0:48:27.600 --> 0:48:30.320 and I'm like, oh, you know. I was like is 0:48:30.400 --> 0:48:32.160 torn And it was like I wasn't expecting. No one 0:48:32.200 --> 0:48:35.880 coaches you on that part either. And but the second 0:48:35.960 --> 0:48:39.080 I could, I went raced over to Grayson and was 0:48:39.120 --> 0:48:41.200 just like, you know, oh, I know, laid down and 0:48:41.239 --> 0:48:43.719 he was on my chest and I realized, now why 0:48:43.719 --> 0:48:45.919 I'm in this giant zipperd clown out that I guess, 0:48:46.320 --> 0:48:48.200 But it was one of those moments where it's like, 0:48:48.400 --> 0:48:50.880 you know, all of a sudden everything makes sense. 0:48:51.120 --> 0:48:54.160 It's like, Okay, now I know why I was in 0:48:54.160 --> 0:48:55.759 love with this person and wanted to marry her. And 0:48:56.400 --> 0:48:58.520 now now I get. If I didn't know before, I 0:48:58.600 --> 0:48:59.480 sure know now you know. 0:48:59.520 --> 0:49:01.120 And it's like this is it, this is what we're 0:49:01.640 --> 0:49:04.640 supposed to do, and and uh yeah, it's crazy. 0:49:05.040 --> 0:49:05.960 That's so sweet. 0:49:06.320 --> 0:49:08.200 Oh my god, I'm so excited for you, dude, I'm 0:49:08.239 --> 0:49:09.000 so excited for you. 0:49:10.200 --> 0:49:10.600 She did. 0:49:10.920 --> 0:49:11.160 Yeah. 0:49:11.239 --> 0:49:14.520 When we had the second one, well, first of all, 0:49:14.600 --> 0:49:16.239 Blake's you know, Blake. 0:49:16.000 --> 0:49:17.600 Came out with like a Marty gras head. 0:49:17.920 --> 0:49:19.759 So it's kind of like you know, your kids, like 0:49:20.680 --> 0:49:21.719 he's like, is. 0:49:21.640 --> 0:49:24.040 That a giant balloon? The way? 0:49:25.040 --> 0:49:27.359 You know, he's finally growing into it a little, but uh, 0:49:27.640 --> 0:49:31.080 you know, no, it's one of those things like there's 0:49:31.200 --> 0:49:33.280 no way, there's no way. 0:49:33.160 --> 0:49:35.840 That Blake was going to come out naturally, but you know, 0:49:36.680 --> 0:49:37.759 that's just it. That's just it. 0:49:37.800 --> 0:49:39.480 But yeah, I mean I will say this, man, it 0:49:39.600 --> 0:49:42.360 is I'm excited for you guys. I mean, Jess is 0:49:42.360 --> 0:49:45.200 such a beautiful and wonderful soul and so are you, 0:49:45.960 --> 0:49:47.640 and your kid is going to be. 0:49:48.280 --> 0:49:51.120 So incredibly special. I mean, it's it's just. 0:49:51.840 --> 0:49:54.440 And I love how I really do love this, Ashley, 0:49:54.480 --> 0:49:57.520 how you and Jared have you know, really kind of 0:49:57.520 --> 0:49:59.880 brought Dawson along for the ride in some of those moments, 0:50:00.000 --> 0:50:02.239 and it's like, I love that you guys do that, 0:50:02.320 --> 0:50:05.040 and it's it's always to me, like, that's been so 0:50:05.200 --> 0:50:07.840 much fun for me with our boys, is when we 0:50:07.880 --> 0:50:09.400 can stop them from being the hell out of each 0:50:09.440 --> 0:50:11.560 other and actually seeing them hug each other once in 0:50:11.560 --> 0:50:15.040 a while, which does happen too. You know, I'm so 0:50:15.239 --> 0:50:17.960 thankful that it's all worked out the way that it has. 0:50:18.080 --> 0:50:19.960 So I always say this when people are like, you know, 0:50:19.960 --> 0:50:21.480 would you do it all over again if they ask 0:50:21.520 --> 0:50:22.960 you to be the Bachelor? And I'm like, because of 0:50:22.960 --> 0:50:25.400 the way my life has turned out, my answer is 0:50:25.440 --> 0:50:28.919 absolutely yes, because I believe firmly that we go through 0:50:28.920 --> 0:50:31.000 all this stuff to end up where we end up, right, 0:50:31.080 --> 0:50:33.120 and so had I had I it's a butterfly effect 0:50:33.120 --> 0:50:35.960 that I've done anything differently, I wouldn't be sitting where 0:50:35.960 --> 0:50:36.279 I'm sitting. 0:50:36.280 --> 0:50:37.239 I wouldn't be talking to you guys. 0:50:37.239 --> 0:50:39.040 I wouldn't have these two beautiful kids and a beautiful 0:50:39.080 --> 0:50:41.960 wife and a life that I'm so thankful to have. 0:50:42.080 --> 0:50:44.040 And so it's like, you know, yeah. 0:50:43.840 --> 0:50:46.560 I think I think the I think uh, you know, 0:50:46.640 --> 0:50:49.799 Lacey Pemberton every day for staying on that casting call 0:50:49.880 --> 0:50:52.640 when I basically had said, I'm I'm good, thanks, don't 0:50:52.680 --> 0:50:54.960 want to do anything with you guys, And and I'm 0:50:55.000 --> 0:50:57.239 so thankful because I I have had the best ride 0:50:57.280 --> 0:50:58.880 as a result of it. 0:51:00.600 --> 0:51:04.279 One of the one of the most recognizable bachelors of 0:51:04.320 --> 0:51:06.239 all time. 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