1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: This is that Ben and Nashley I Almost Famous Podcast 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:06,279 Speaker 1: Bachelor Countdown. 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 2: Hey, guys, welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast. We are 4 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 2: continuing our Bachelor countdown. We're interviewing a whole bunch of 5 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 2: bachelors up until the premiere of Grant's season. 6 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 3: Today we have mister Bob Guiney. 7 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: Today's interview is one that makes me very happy. Now, 8 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: all of them have made me very happy. It's always 9 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: good to catch up with old friends, people who've lived 10 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: in similar places you, people that can relate with you. 11 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: But this one makes me extra happy because I love 12 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: this man very much and I know Ashley does as well. 13 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: Bob Guiney, Welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast. 14 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 4: Thanks guys, I love you both very much too. I'm 15 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 4: really happy to be here. 16 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 5: Bob. 17 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: Sometimes I still get starstruck by you because you are 18 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 2: you are like the original bachelor that people remember. 19 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 3: You're the first bachelor that people remember. 20 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: And thank you for being part of our Bachelor series 21 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 2: leading up to the premiere of Grant season. You are 22 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 2: amongst a number of bachelors that we are revisiting with. 23 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 5: Thank you. 24 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 4: No, it's so sweet of you to say, Ashley, because 25 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 4: you're like a historian of this whole thing. I love you, 26 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 4: you know everything. 27 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: Our resident expert is what I call it. 28 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:12,559 Speaker 3: Oh, your season, I'm gonna be honest, don't. 29 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 5: Know your well, you were probably still in diapers. 30 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 2: I was a freshman in high school when your season 31 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: was on. 32 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:19,839 Speaker 3: Your season was two thousand and three. 33 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I was right right after Trista's season, and 34 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 4: yeah it was. 35 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,839 Speaker 5: A long time ago for you, so sure. 36 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 2: And my mom was a little low brow on the 37 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 2: Bachelor franchise at that point, So sometimes I would sneak 38 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 2: it in my room, just like have an episode on 39 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 2: the background on my little Purple TV. 40 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, I love it. 41 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: I love Isn't it weird? I was in eighth grade 42 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: when Bob was the Bachelor. 43 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 5: Isn't that crazy? Yeah? 44 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 4: And it's so strange because I feel like, I mean, Ben, 45 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 4: I feel like you're one of my favorite human beings 46 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 4: a live period, not even from this franchise, but I 47 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 4: feel like you and I are just like. 48 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 5: When we hang out, I feel we're the same age. 49 00:01:57,920 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 4: You know. 50 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: It's crazy because I really don't like you guys, don't 51 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 2: feel like you have a big age gap. 52 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 5: No, it's because Bob is so. 53 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 3: Immature and Benison exactly. 54 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 5: There you go. That's really honestly, that is it. 55 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 1: No, it's it's interesting as we get older. My some 56 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: of my best friends in the world are, you know, 57 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: in their later forties and fifties. Now you just kind of, 58 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: you know, life kind of comes together once kids come 59 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: into play, and once it's the only thing you can do, 60 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: you know, athletically is golf, Bob. I'm going to shower 61 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 1: you with compliments throughout the show. Oh and I hope 62 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: you give us some headline. So that's the only rule 63 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: you have, and I'll shower you with compliments the rest 64 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: of the time. So I mean this compliment because I 65 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: was talking about it a couple days ago, and I 66 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: won't mention with who, but it's another lead on this, okay. 67 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: And they're talking about career choices, like what if you've 68 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: been have any advice for what this looks like post 69 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: show or during show or whatever, like, how would you 70 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: have navigated differently, how did you feel like you it well, 71 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: et cetera. So we were talking through this and I said, 72 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: and I said this blanket comment without thinking through it first, 73 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: and then I stopped myself to think through it. I 74 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: said this. I said, you know, if you look at 75 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: the history of the leads on the show, the women 76 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: traditionally do really well, like the bachelorettes do really well 77 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: post show in entertainment or in you know, influencing now 78 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: would be a way to say that, or you know, 79 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: keeping some type of revenue stream going. I said, the 80 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: bachelors some have caught fire, but for the most part, 81 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: it's kind of this strategic switch from either keeping the 82 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: career you had before or enhancing that career a little bit, 83 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: using this whole platform for a few years, and then 84 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: really launching off into like whatever season's next for you 85 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,839 Speaker 1: outside of entertainment. I said, you don't have I said, 86 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: you don't have many representatives that have made it an 87 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: entertainment post show. And then I stopped. I said, actually, 88 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: I would say that Bob Guiney has I mean you 89 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: two thousand and three, it was twenty two years ago. Yeah, 90 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: you're still on the almost famous OG so you're still 91 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: talking and people still want to listen to you for 92 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: a living. 93 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 5: Uh. 94 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: In addition to that, you obviously have a career that 95 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: you you know, put time into, but you were on 96 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: serious radio. You obviously a musician, we did the man 97 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: panel on the Today Show together for I think two 98 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: and all years you. 99 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 5: Did it one I didn't, yeah, ten years. 100 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: But you you have made a career post show. So 101 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: I want to start this whole thing by we'll talk 102 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: about The Bachelor and your time there, and that's great, 103 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: But how do you think you made that happen? What 104 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: steps did you take or how did this kind of 105 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: fall into your lap to where that was such a 106 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: prevalent use of your time after show? 107 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 5: Well? Thanks, first of all, thanks for saying that. I mean, 108 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 5: you know, it's interesting. 109 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 4: I would say I would say probably Jesse is probably done. 110 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 4: You know some of the more you know, high end uh, 111 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 4: you know, entertainment. Yeah, yeah, But was it Matt Stork? 112 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 4: Is it? 113 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 5: Yeah? Travis Stork? 114 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 4: Travis Yeah, which, oddly enough, I'll never forget. Right before, 115 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 4: so I got a call from a producer and this 116 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 4: is uh and and you'll you'll appreciate this. This is 117 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 4: the highs and the lows, the thrill of victory in 118 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 4: the agony of defeat of the entertainment world for a 119 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 4: bachelor guy. 120 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 5: I am on the set, so I was one of 121 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 5: my favorite jobs. 122 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 4: I did in entertainment was hosting the scene in music festival, 123 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 4: so I would go down, I'd be the guy that would, 124 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 4: you know, basically be like welcome back, you know. I 125 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 4: think that was you know, Rascal Flats, you know, next 126 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 4: up Keith Urban and the crowded go crazy, and I 127 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 4: was like, this is the coolest job ever. 128 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 5: I did for seven years, and in the middle of 129 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 5: it, it was on. 130 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 4: It was on, It was on CMT, it was before 131 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 4: it jumped over to being full time on ABC. But 132 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 4: I'll never forget. I get a call from these producers 133 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 4: from something and they're like, you know, we want you 134 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 4: to host one of our shows on CMT. And they're like, 135 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 4: we're gonna plug and play you right into this companion 136 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 4: show with it for our number one hit show. And 137 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 4: the number one hit show at the time was called 138 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 4: Trick My Truck. And I'm like, oh okay, and it's 139 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 4: like yeah, it's almost like a makeup like pimp my 140 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 4: Ride for semi trucks. I'm like, oh okay, I don't 141 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 4: really know anything about that stuff. Like no, no, no, that's 142 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 4: all we want you for. We're doing a like a 143 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 4: spinoff show and it's called Trick My Trucker and We're 144 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 4: just gonna plug. 145 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 5: You into it. We're gonna plug you on it right now. 146 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 4: And I'm like what And it wasn't. I don't have 147 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 4: a cluely why I said yes to it, but I did, 148 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 4: and in saying yes to it, I'm like okay. And 149 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 4: it was basically like a makeover show for truck drivers 150 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 4: and I'm like the host, yeah, yeah, they all sort. 151 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 5: Of out of my room, right. 152 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 4: But I was doing like a bunch of homemakeover style 153 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 4: stuff like back then for AGTV and all that kind 154 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 4: of stuff, So I guess in a weird way, maybe 155 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 4: it fit. And while I'm doing it, I get a 156 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 4: phone call from a producer friend of mine and he's like, hey, man, 157 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 4: got this great idea for a show. 158 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 5: And he's telling me the. 159 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 4: Show and I'm like, it's about doctors and we're gonna, 160 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 4: you know, we're gonna tell people how to solve know ailments. 161 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 5: And I'm like, why does this guy call me? 162 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 4: I'm not a doctor, and he goes, do you know 163 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 4: how I can get a hold of Travis Stork? 164 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 5: I really? And I'm like what, wait? 165 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 4: What? And I will never forget it because I was like, yeah, 166 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 4: I can connect the dots and help. And in that moment, 167 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 4: I'm realizing the end of my career and the launching 168 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 4: pad for doctor Travis Stork's career. But you know, I'm 169 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 4: on a set of a you know, truck driver makeover 170 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 4: show and some weird you know, and some weird truck 171 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 4: stop and like, I don't even know. 172 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 5: I'm like, what is going on with my life? 173 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 3: It makes fun show too. It was definitely coming off 174 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 3: of Queer Eye. 175 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, probably, Yeah, they were just finding different ways to 176 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 4: spin it, you know. And but yeah, you know, it 177 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 4: was kind of interesting after after the Bachelorette, which you know, 178 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 4: my brother in law, I've told you this story many times, Ben, 179 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 4: and I think Ashley probably knows it too. But I 180 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 4: didn't shibmit myself to be on any of it, and 181 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 4: so and I actually thought it was a joke when 182 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 4: they were calling me because I was crouching around my 183 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 4: office after one of my many, you know, ailments, and 184 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 4: I had never been heavier, and they're calling me for 185 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 4: this show that I didn't submit myself for. And it's 186 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 4: Lacey Pemberton with a scratchy voice, and I think it's 187 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 4: a guy messing with me, sounding like a woman. 188 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 5: And I'm like, okay, all right, you know. 189 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 4: So I'd be like, oh, yeah, you know, boy meets 190 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 4: girl every day in Detroit and on in front of 191 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 4: a million viewers, you know, and they're like, why you 192 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 4: send in a demo tape. I'm like, not gonna be 193 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 4: the fat guy and you're blueper real, but thanks, and 194 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 4: I'm hanging up. I'm thinking it's like I'm gonna cutch 195 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 4: you around and everyone's gonna be laughing. 196 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 5: No one's laughing. I'm like, what the hell? I know 197 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 5: that was funny. And my brother in law said it best. 198 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 4: He was like, if I would have tried to make 199 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 4: any of it happen, I would have looked like a 200 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 4: complete idiot, you know. But instead I stepped in a 201 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 4: pile of dog poop and pulled a hundred dollars bill 202 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 4: off my shoe. 203 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 5: You know. 204 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 4: He's like, it just sort of was one of those 205 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 4: times in your life. And the TV thing kind of 206 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 4: came as a result of that too. I went on 207 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 4: Trista's season of the Bachelorette and everybody there is ripped, 208 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 4: you know, and I'm like in the worst shape of 209 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 4: my life. And I would normally be one of those 210 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 4: guys who maybe isn't ripped, but at least would have been, 211 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 4: you know, in moderately decent shape. 212 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 5: And I'm like, oh, I'm clearly going home pretty soon here, 213 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 5: you know. So I'm just gonna have fun. 214 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 4: And I had a blast and just kept sticking around, 215 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 4: you know. And then you know, Interest and I are 216 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 4: still friends this day, obviously, and but it was one 217 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 4: of those things, and the Bachelor kind of came. You know, 218 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 4: Oprah thought I was funny, made me your man on 219 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 4: the street. Next thing you know, I'm hosting all these 220 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 4: segments for Oprah and she's like, this is where you belong, 221 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 4: you know. And then they call me to do The Bachelor. 222 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't think I want to do it. 223 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 4: I call Oprah. Oprah kind of talks what. 224 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 5: Lot. 225 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. 226 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,239 Speaker 2: I reached out to the Oprah for advice on becoming 227 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 2: the Bachelor. 228 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 4: Yeah. I reached out to her executive assistant, who connected us, 229 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 4: and one day my phone rings back. I'm like, I'm like, 230 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 4: I know this is a weird request, but could Oprah? 231 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 4: I need to talk to Oprah. I want to, you know, 232 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 4: because she was the only only person I knew that 233 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 4: was I need to talk to Oprah. But at this 234 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 4: point I'd done her show like ten times, you know, 235 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 4: cooking with a chef. I'm doing all this cool stuff, 236 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 4: like they get firefighters in Chicago and then they bring 237 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 4: me in and I'm like, with a firefighter, I mean everything, 238 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 4: you know. 239 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:57,839 Speaker 5: It was just she just thought it was funny and 240 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 5: gave me a platform to I'm an idiot. 241 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 3: You got a phone call. 242 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 5: So I get a phone call and tell us what 243 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 5: she said. Yeah, I legitimately said. 244 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 4: I was like, I'm struggling that they're asking me to 245 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 4: be the Bachelor guy, and I just don't think I'm 246 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 4: the right guy for it. 247 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:14,959 Speaker 5: And she's like she was so. 248 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 4: I mean, she basically was the reason why they were 249 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 4: calling me, right, She's like, I want Bob to be 250 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 4: the next Bachelor. 251 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 5: That was really all it took. But I was like, 252 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 5: I just don't think I'm the right guy for it. 253 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 4: You know, I'm not really doing anything memorable in my life, 254 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 4: and I just came off a trist this season. 255 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 5: That was a lot of fun. I'm the lovable loser, 256 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:32,839 Speaker 5: and everywhere I go, people are like, you should have 257 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 5: been the guy. You know, I'm like, thanks, They needless 258 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 5: to say. They edited me nicely, and I was kind 259 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:38,959 Speaker 5: of just like, I. 260 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 4: Don't think I'm I just don't think I'm that guy. 261 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 4: And she's like, oh my god, that's why you are 262 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 4: that guy. She's like, because you don't think you're that guy. 263 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 4: And she's like, just be you and be true to 264 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 4: who you are and it'll be the greatest season they've 265 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 4: ever had. And she's like, you know, you've got to 266 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 4: do this. And she really kind of made me, I guess, 267 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 4: feel like I could do it, you know. And so 268 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 4: I was like, Okay, what the heck, I'm going to 269 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 4: give it a. 270 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 5: Shot, you know. 271 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 4: And and I just had to be open to the 272 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 4: fact that I could find love in that circumstance. 273 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 5: And so that was kind of it, you know. 274 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 4: I went ahead with it and and the entertainment world 275 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 4: as it was a very long way of getting to 276 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 4: the answer of Ben's question. But it kind of was 277 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 4: much the same like after The Bachelor, they'd call me, 278 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 4: they go, hey, do you want to do this? 279 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 5: I'm like, yeah, why not? That sounds like fun. It 280 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 5: wasn't like I had my design on anything, you know. 281 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 4: And thankfully I never fully quit my day job, which 282 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 4: is always my advice to any of the new Bachelor guys. 283 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 4: I'm like, look, you're not Ben affleck Man. Stay in 284 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 4: your lane right and be you and have fun. But 285 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 4: you know, it's going to be really tough twenty five 286 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 4: years from now when you're going back to your very 287 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 4: first job interview, because you haven't done anything relevant other 288 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 4: than you know, celebrity bull riding in the last ten years. 289 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 4: It's going to be really tough to get a job, 290 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 4: you know. So don't quit what you do, like, stay 291 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 4: somehow with a business acumen, and don't think that you know, 292 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 4: se tooth whitening kids on Instagram is going to be 293 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 4: a really great career move for you in the long run, 294 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 4: because it's not, you know. 295 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 5: And that's always been kind of my mindset. 296 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,719 Speaker 1: I think it's the best advice. How did you give 297 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: that advice? I think you maybe give that advice to me, 298 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: and it was something I didn't do for two more years. 299 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: I kept selling software, which was great, but then it 300 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: led into this, and then it led into the freedom 301 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: to create some other things. But I think it's the 302 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: best advice you can give a lead is you're going 303 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: to feel like king of the world and money's going 304 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: to flow into your bank account faster than you ever 305 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: thought it would. But it also stops faster than you ever. 306 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, sure it does. It's a humbling experience. 307 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: You know, when do you think that changed for you? Like, 308 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: when do you think that switch happened? Because obviously now 309 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: entertainment isn't the main source of your income, So like, 310 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: when did that start to feel like, hey, I should 311 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 1: probably now invest even more time into my full time job. 312 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, when did you start to feel your store fade? 313 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 5: Yeah? Well, you know, I gotta be honest with you. 314 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 5: I didn't feel it. 315 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say, I don't I think you 316 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 2: could have continued. 317 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 4: Well, it took a really good friend of mine to 318 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 4: help me feel it, to be honest. So I had 319 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 4: a buddy of mine from high school who he had 320 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 4: gone on he played, you know, college football, he played 321 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 4: professional football for a while and he became a hedge 322 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:15,719 Speaker 4: fund manager and all this kind of stuff, And we'd 323 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 4: always had this really nice thing. And he called me 324 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 4: on my fortieth birthday to wish me a happy birthday. 325 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 4: So this was this was two years before I kind 326 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 4: of the same timeline has done two years when I 327 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 4: got this advice and I chose to heat it. But 328 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 4: he was like, hey, you know you and I had 329 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 4: just bought my second house in La. I'm thinking, I'm 330 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 4: just I think I got the world, you know, I 331 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 4: got it all figured out. And and he was like, well, 332 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 4: I just want to say this to you. He's like, 333 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 4: I know you got your celebrity band buddies, and he's like, 334 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 4: I know you're buying real estate and you're doing all 335 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 4: this kind of stuff. 336 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 5: He's like, but pretty soon, you're not going to be 337 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 5: the flavor of the month. There's going to be a. 338 00:13:56,320 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 4: Younger, funnier, more handsome bachelor guy who's gonna come along, 339 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 4: and you're gonna be the guy that sort of like 340 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 4: keeps getting pushed down the thing. 341 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 3: There's never been a funnier bachelor. 342 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 5: Oh Ashley, you so much, thank you. 343 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 4: But I was like it kind of resonated with me 344 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 4: because I think because of who he was right who 345 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 4: he was saying it to me, no vested interest in 346 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 4: him saying it. It wasn't like he was competing with 347 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 4: me for anything or whatever. It was like just a 348 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 4: buddy who I love, who had the guts to tell 349 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 4: me like he saw it, you know. And I was 350 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 4: like he's right, like, pretty soon, I'm gonna be that 351 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 4: guy that I'm telling everyone else not to be, Like, 352 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 4: don't be the dude selling, you know, tooth whitening. 353 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 5: Kids. 354 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 4: I'm wondering why you can't get a job in finance again. 355 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 4: You haven't done it in a long time. 356 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 2: Jared has a tooth whitening ad coming up, guys, felt He's. 357 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 4: Also a business owner, and you know, there's a lot 358 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 4: going on, supplemental, supplemental tooth white. And he does have 359 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 4: a brilliant smile, and so therefore he should I I 360 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 4: have never had that much of it. I want to 361 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 4: have the ross from friend's teeth, and I just don't 362 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 4: have them. 363 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 3: Jared has bad byer too, so he he's got good. 364 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 5: He's got bright though they're bright outside of teeth. Continue, Bob, 365 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 5: thank you, Yes, So he calls it. 366 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 4: He gives me this advice, and it really I don't 367 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 4: know if it was because I was just turning forty. 368 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 4: I don't know what it was, but I had been 369 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 4: at that point. I was eight years off my season. 370 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 4: It was really like the ten year mark, I guess. 371 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 4: So it was ten years after I was a bachelor, 372 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 4: and that's when I was like, you know, I'm going 373 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 4: to start taking these opportunities that I have because I 374 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 4: was still doing a lot of a live event hosting 375 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 4: at the time, where I would go and do like 376 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 4: a Fortune five hundred company would hire me and I'd 377 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 4: go in to be their MC for their you know, 378 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 4: sales awards and stuff like that. I was like, I'm 379 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 4: gonna start and every time I would do it, they'd 380 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 4: offer me a job and I'd be like, no thanks, 381 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 4: you know, And I was like, I'm gonna quit just 382 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 4: saying no thanks. I'm gonna start thinking about these opportunities 383 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 4: and see if I can create something that I love 384 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 4: that's kind of a combination of my personality meets this 385 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 4: and where it's not just based off of you know, 386 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 4: because I was also you know, and we all kind of. 387 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 5: Go through it too. 388 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 4: We get to that point where we're sort of you're 389 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 4: not tired of it, but you want to be known 390 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 4: as something else than bachelor Bob from twenty years ago, right, 391 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 4: and so you're thinking, like what else can I do? 392 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 4: And so that's when I started really thinking about it. 393 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 4: And so twenty fifteen, which would have been twelve years 394 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 4: after I was a bachelor, was when I finally was like, Okay, 395 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 4: now I'm gonna take advantage of these opportunities and turned 396 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 4: it into an opportunity. Left La moved to Seattle with 397 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 4: a company called Lincoln Financial, who you know, really took 398 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 4: a big chance with me, and they gave me an 399 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 4: opportunity to sort of grow and do some things that 400 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 4: I had been doing, but. 401 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 5: You know, take it next level and really make a 402 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 5: career out of it. 403 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 4: But they were also really supportive of me doing other 404 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 4: stuff and never once did they you know, make me, 405 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 4: you know, feel like I couldn't. In fact, that was 406 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 4: kind of part of it. Was they were like, we 407 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 4: want you to continue doing your stuff. That's what makes you, 408 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 4: makes you different. 409 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 5: You know. 410 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 4: And so I I got doing the Today Show for 411 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 4: many years after that, which is how Ben and I 412 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 4: met in person, and then you know, it was like. 413 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 5: All that kind of good stuff. So yeah, I was. 414 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 5: I was pretty happy about the way it kind of continued. 415 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 4: And you know, I still get to dabble these days, 416 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 4: but now with the kids and everything else, the dabbling 417 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 4: has become you know, a little more selective. 418 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: Quick note, Ashley, because I know you have some questions 419 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:24,199 Speaker 1: about almost famous ogs Bob and I still this day 420 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: people ask me, what's one of the coolest things you've 421 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: gotten to do since you were a bachelor, And I 422 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,360 Speaker 1: always say, well, I get to host a show with Ashley, 423 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 1: and that to me is fantastic, and it has been 424 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: since we started. So the other thing is and Ashley. 425 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if you know this. Bob and I 426 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: were on set filming on the Day show for Kathy 427 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: Lee Gifford's very final day on that on television. 428 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 3: Oh really, I hear that she's like the nicest person 429 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 3: in Hollywood. 430 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's amazing. Hode is gone now, but we were 431 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 1: there and so it was a really like ear moment 432 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,199 Speaker 1: for me because I think Bob was sitting next man 433 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: on the couch and I was like, I've watched her 434 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: my entire life, Like i watched her with my mom, 435 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: Regis and Kathy, like I watched that show with her 436 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 1: so much, and now I'm sitting here three foot from 437 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: her as she cries and says goodbye to TV. And 438 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: it was it was wild. It's one of those moments 439 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: you're like, how did this all happen? 440 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 4: Yeah? 441 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: Up here, Yeah, it's really But I know you have 442 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: some questions about the O G show that that Bob 443 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: hosts with his ex girlfriend. 444 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 3: Well, first I wanted to talk about your ex wife. 445 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 5: Oh yes, okay, so. 446 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 2: Rebecca Rebecca boot Egg? 447 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 3: Is that how you say her? 448 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 5: Last night? 449 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 2: But okay, man, I remember this was like a big 450 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 2: thing because my mom was a big all my children's 451 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,679 Speaker 2: children fan and she was all my children. So my 452 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 2: mom thought that you guys were a really cool celebrity couple. 453 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 3: And you guys were married for six. 454 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 5: Years six and a half half. 455 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 2: Okay, again, you were kind of like a celebrity. You 456 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 2: were marrying another actress. This was all on the tabloid 457 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:09,360 Speaker 2: covers and noybe you guys might be working on something together. 458 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it's interesting. You know they say never 459 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 4: burn your bridges, right, and it's kind of funny. I 460 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 4: I always we split up. Well, I guess whatever seven 461 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 4: years would have been after we got married. I can't 462 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 4: remember the year now, but. 463 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 5: Ok, thank you. 464 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, and uh we it wasn't because of anything uh 465 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 4: you know, bad or anything toxic or anything anything. 466 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 5: It was more that we were just two people who 467 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 5: had grown apart. 468 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 4: You know, we're living on opposite coasts at the time, 469 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 4: and had been for a couple of years because of 470 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 4: her career and and I had moved with her when 471 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 4: she wanted to go to LA and so I had 472 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 4: started a career there and it was just really difficult 473 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 4: to figure out what was going to happen. And so 474 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 4: it was one of those things where, oh, we'll take 475 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 4: it every six months and see what you know, and 476 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 4: it's it's tough to do. 477 00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 5: And so it was never from a. 478 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 4: Lack of you know, love or caring for one another. 479 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 4: It was more from a just a grown apart and 480 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 4: and but we remained very friendly. And her husband when 481 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 4: she remarried, was a guy that I really liked and respected. 482 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 4: And it was one of those things where the long 483 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 4: and the short of it is he came up with 484 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 4: an idea and he presented it and it sounded pretty 485 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 4: interesting and and we still don't know what's going to 486 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 4: happen with. 487 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 5: It, if anything. 488 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 4: But this past year, you know, she returned back to 489 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 4: the soaps and went back to Bold and Beautiful, So 490 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 4: we actually had her Trista and I my ex girlfriend Trista, 491 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 4: and I had her one of the triangle Oh yeah, 492 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 4: what a lineage, and we had her on the show 493 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 4: to talk about her return to daytime television and kind 494 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 4: of teased this idea that was thrown out there, and 495 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 4: you know, we'll see what happens. I mean, it's one 496 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 4: of those things that's very early on in the development stages, 497 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 4: but I will tell you, and I think this is 498 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 4: an important part to talk about. 499 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 5: Is I went to my wife, who my wife and 500 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 5: I have been married, and I was. 501 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 3: Going to say, how does Kanyon feel about this? 502 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, and Kanyon's like, that's an awesome show. I think 503 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 4: you should totally do it. I'm like, really, he's like 504 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 4: super supportive of it, you know. 505 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 1: So Keanyon is one of the most fun people to 506 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: be around and also one of the most welcoming. She'll 507 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 1: always make sure. Yeah, my wife kind of was wrapped 508 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 1: up in some comfortable arms. Yeah, showing around. Kenyon is is. 509 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 4: One when she likes you. When she likes you, she 510 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 4: can also be a pit bull when she doesn't. So, yeah, 511 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 4: she clearly likes you. 512 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: Can see that. But I always seem the good side 513 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: and I love the good me too, good side of Kanyon. 514 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:41,360 Speaker 5: Me too. 515 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 4: I agree with you, buddy, And yeah, so my my 516 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 4: wife was very supportive of the idea. So if something 517 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 4: ever does come of it, which who knows, you know, 518 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 4: but if something ever did come of it, I'd be 519 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 4: more than happy to talk about it here first with you. 520 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: Kanyon has a lot of like jealousy concerns. You know, 521 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: you've really now with her. I think it's like, Bob, 522 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 1: you go do what you gotta do. But I know 523 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 1: she does. 524 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 5: You know, it's so true. 525 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:07,959 Speaker 4: I mean, that was that was the thing about her 526 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 4: when I you know, when I met her, I really 527 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 4: didn't ever think I was gonna get married again, you know, 528 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 4: when I met Canyon, and so I was sort of like, 529 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 4: you know, oh, we're gonna date and have fun whatever, 530 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 4: you know. And I was probably treating it in my 531 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 4: mind anyway, like it was a casual, you know, relationship. 532 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 4: And it was funny because all my buddies would be like, uh, 533 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 4: I'm like, well, yeah, we should go, you know, and uh, 534 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 4: you know, maybe I'll maybe I'll bring maybe I'll bring 535 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:32,360 Speaker 4: a date or something. 536 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 5: They're like, oh, you. 537 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 4: Mean the date the only person that you ever hang 538 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 4: out with, but you pretend like you're you know, not 539 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 4: dating can oh no, you know, we're. 540 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 5: Just so casual. 541 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 4: And so it's funny because Canyon to this day. Like 542 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 4: people will say, you know, you know, so, what's going 543 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 4: on with you guys? 544 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 5: You know what do you guys? She'll go, oh, we're keeping. 545 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 4: It casual, two kids, casual, you know, you know, eight 546 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 4: years married, casual. 547 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 5: And you know it's it's actually pretty funny. 548 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 4: But yeah, she's she's super cool about that stuff, and 549 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 4: you know, yeah, it's got nothing to worry about anyway, 550 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 4: So it's not like, you know, it's very comical. I'll 551 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 4: just tell you this when I leave to go do something, 552 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,199 Speaker 4: like I'll be hosting something and she'll be like, you know, 553 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 4: the things that she says to me are not the 554 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 4: common things that a wife would say to a husband 555 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 4: who's leaving for a business trip. 556 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 5: She'll say something and it'll. 557 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 4: Literally make me laugh until I get home, and it's 558 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 4: just like, you know, she'll say some pretty off colored 559 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 4: things which are part of our relationship, DNA. 560 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 5: I suppose it's really funny to me. 561 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 2: Let's talk about the Ogs. That's our spinoff podcast that 562 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,719 Speaker 2: you introduce us right now. You guys are doing the 563 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 2: recaps of Special Forces, of course because she's on it, 564 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,360 Speaker 2: but you also do a lot with the Golden Bachelor 565 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 2: why does the Golden Bachelor and Golden Bachelor I prefer 566 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 2: you guys over us. 567 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 4: Well, I mean people like to hang out with people 568 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 4: that are on their same age, you know, I think, and. 569 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 5: I am definitely that guy. Not trust this so much, 570 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 5: but me for sure. 571 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really crazy when you're talking like the Golden 572 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 4: Bachelor people and I'm like, I'm like five years younger 573 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 4: than this is really strange, Bob. 574 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 2: That is actually almost a true fact. And I feel 575 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 2: about that for you, I know, I will know. I 576 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 2: don't know how old Joan and Shok are bisty or 577 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 2: sixty one and you're fifty. 578 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 5: Three, fifty three. I mean, it's like we're kind of 579 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 5: fifty three. 580 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 4: Oh thanks, I feel like the oldest uh lately with 581 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 4: my kids not sleeping through the night again, it's the 582 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 4: sleep aggression, guys. It even comes back at three. But yeah, 583 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 4: I think, uh, you know, we've loved it. And thank you, guys, 584 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 4: thank you for letting us, you know, be on your 585 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 4: stream and for being a part of the whole thing, 586 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 4: and thanks to Sugarman of course for even thinking of 587 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 4: the idea for us. It's one of those things. I mean, 588 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 4: it's really been a lot of fun. I didn't even 589 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 4: know what a podcast was five years ago, you know, 590 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:45,919 Speaker 4: and it's like, ID hear people talking about it, I'm like, 591 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 4: why the hell would you listen to a podcast? 592 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 5: I can, you know, listen to Pop Rocks, you. 593 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 4: Know, two thousand and five and I got all my 594 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 4: music I need, and you know, but it's so fun 595 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 4: to hear to get to know people and like to 596 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 4: hear their stories and really, you know, share with that, 597 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 4: and it makes you think of your own stuff too. 598 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 4: Like I don't know how many times I'll be done 599 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 4: interviewing somebody, especially from the Golden Series, and I'll like 600 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 4: hang up and. 601 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 5: Go, gosh, I kind of relate to that person. I 602 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 5: get it. 603 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 4: I always feeling that way at one point, you know. 604 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 4: And so yeah, now we're onto the Special Forces thing. 605 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 4: Trista's on there. She's doing a really great job. First 606 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 4: episode I watched, I won't lie to you guys, I 607 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 4: actually got emotional watching it. 608 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 5: Like I was sitting there by myself because I had 609 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 5: to wait. 610 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 4: You know, the kids are bed and everything, and I'm 611 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 4: watching this person I've known for twenty years, and Trista 612 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 4: push herself to such a place that was like I 613 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:33,880 Speaker 4: knew how uncomfortable she had to be, and I knew 614 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 4: how hard it had to be. And then you start 615 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 4: thinking about it, like, I mean, I know Ben feels 616 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 4: this way too. Every guy I know always feels this way. 617 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 4: But you start thinking, man, can I do that? Like 618 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 4: should I push myself? 619 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 5: Should I just put myself in a situations uncomfortable like that? 620 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 4: And you start wondering if you could do it, And 621 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,360 Speaker 4: then you start hearing in the reasons that motivate these 622 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 4: people to go on this show because they ask, you know, 623 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 4: fifty people, I'm sure to get it down to these 624 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,239 Speaker 4: sixteen or whatever, and to hear the reasons that they 625 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 4: are challenging themselves and it's not a competition show, so 626 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 4: they're not it doesn't matter who lasts to the end. 627 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 5: You can, yeah, exactly. And it's like, man, that's just it. 628 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 4: Like you start wondering, you know, especially at my age, 629 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 4: right I'm fifty three, I think about it. You know, 630 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 4: did I peak at thirty two? I guess I did 631 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 4: when I was a bachelor, you know, and ever since then, 632 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 4: it's like, you know, twenty years later, it's like, am 633 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 4: I still like I played college football? Am I still 634 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 4: an athlete. Can I still get it done if I 635 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 4: train a little bit, you know, And or am I 636 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 4: just a dad you know, who's basically an uber for 637 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 4: my kids and you know, trying to keep all the 638 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 4: all the balls in the air of my family life. 639 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 4: And you know, it's it's one of those things you 640 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 4: do wonder, you know. And and so it's been a 641 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 4: lot of there's been a lot of interesting conversations with 642 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 4: everybody that's been on the show, but I think most 643 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 4: of it's been kind of hearing Trista's connection with these 644 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 4: people and how she feels such a bond with them 645 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 4: after going through it. And my dad was a marine, 646 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 4: so you know, I was the only I was the 647 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 4: one who didn't go into the Armed service arm forces, 648 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 4: and so I'm always like, you know, did I drop 649 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 4: the ball there? Like you know what, like should I 650 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 4: have done it then? And yeah, it just makes you 651 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 4: think a lot. But it's been pretty rewarding doing the podcast. 652 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 5: For sure. 653 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 1: It's interesting podcasts do that, but it's such a healthy 654 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 1: habit to get in the I think, get in the 655 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: practice of asking those questions, not always going to the 656 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 1: place of, oh I dropped the ball right? Life looks 657 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 1: different for everybody, different paths, different things happen. But it's 658 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 1: one of the things that this show always does for 659 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 1: me is it does give me time to reflect and 660 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,360 Speaker 1: ask myself those questions, you know, where am I at? 661 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 5: Like what am I? 662 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 1: You know? Who am I? To the people around me? 663 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:34,640 Speaker 1: And Bob we have a really great interview, a late 664 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 1: night interview that happened at the baby shower for Jessica 665 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: and I that I heartput on. It has all the 666 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: details of kind of how you decided to have kids, 667 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 1: how that all worked out the process of having kids, 668 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: what you've learned as a father. Anybody listening right now 669 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 1: that just wants a very raw, very authentic interview with Bob, 670 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: go back and the thread here and listen to that Evergreen. 671 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,120 Speaker 1: I mean, it talks about Bob's story, you know, being 672 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: a father at what were you forty seven? 673 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 5: I think forty seven, forty eight? 674 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: Yeah? 675 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean Grayson's six now, so I was 676 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 4: forty seven. 677 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. It's a great interview or just a great conversation. 678 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: I think that a lot of people can learn a 679 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: lot from and the closing moments here I do want 680 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: to lean into your time as the Bachelor, because you 681 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 1: were the Bachelor. Do you my first question before we 682 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,679 Speaker 1: even get going here, and I ask a bunch of 683 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: questions that you might not even have an answer to. 684 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: Do you even remember the season? 685 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the one thing, you know, It's it's kind 686 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 4: of burned in my brain for the most part, I think. 687 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: Because I don't. I don't remember a lot of my season. 688 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: Like you could say stuff and I'll be like, oh, 689 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: I remember that, yeah, but like I couldn't recall the moment, 690 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: the small moments, or all the things that happened very easily. 691 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: And I didn't mean that as like a dig like oh, 692 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: it's so long ago. I meant it as like a 693 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: it was such a flash, and it's such a blur 694 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: to me. 695 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 4: Now, right, Yeah, I see what you mean. I mean, yeah, 696 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 4: I remember the broad strokes, you know. I remember the 697 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 4: wide brush moments, I suppose, and the things that you know, 698 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 4: I carry with me, like you know, I remember the 699 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 4: moments of just like all out fatigue, right, Like you know, 700 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 4: I always reference one moment in particular where and it's 701 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 4: almost like I'm making fun of the show to a 702 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 4: certain degree, but I'm like, yeah, they want you to 703 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 4: make all these you know, life changing decisions, but you 704 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 4: know they've they've got a half gallon of Tito's down 705 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 4: your neck and they throw you on a private jet 706 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 4: to Vegas and then as you as you spend the 707 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 4: you know, the better part of an evening and into 708 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 4: the wee morning hours, they fly you back. And then 709 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 4: when you think you're going to go to bed, they 710 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 4: throw you in a new outfit and say, okay, sit 711 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 4: down and talk about the date, and then we're gonna 712 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 4: go hot air balloon riding at six am. You're like, 713 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 4: what I remember? I remember that in particular. It's like 714 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 4: a force turnaround time for me. That was like, wow, 715 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 4: you know, how am I supposed to you know, even 716 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 4: have conversations at that point, But strangely enough, I guess 717 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 4: I did it. 718 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 5: But you know, yeah, I remember the big stuff. 719 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 4: I think, you know, there's probably some moments that that 720 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 4: that if someone would have told me they happened, I'd 721 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 4: be like, oh, okay, maybe they did, you know, But yeah, 722 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 4: I remember it, and I definitely, you know, I say 723 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 4: I savor some of those moments too, because they were 724 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 4: I think I'm really bad at being in the moment 725 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 4: and realizing that I should really savor that moment, you know. 726 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 5: And and I'm one of those people that. 727 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 4: Just assumes I'll remember it all and it's going to 728 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 4: happen again next time, too, right, And so I'm definitely 729 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 4: not one of the people that pulls out my phone, 730 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 4: much to my wife's chagrin, Like I never am documenting 731 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,959 Speaker 4: things which I should. I'm just a guy that's just 732 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 4: in it happened to Blast, and you know, assuming I'm 733 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 4: going to remember it all. 734 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 5: But yeah, I do remember most of the big moments of. 735 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 4: The show, and you know, really treasure the relationships I 736 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 4: made as a result of them. 737 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 3: Did either of you have Bachelor diaries? 738 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 4: No? 739 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 5: I didn't. 740 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 3: Oh my god, is the most embarrassing thing to reread? 741 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 5: Is it? Really? 742 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: I have some stuff I wrote down. They're more like prayers. 743 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: I was kind of like Bob. I was tired of frustrated, 744 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: I was emotional, I was confused, and so a lot 745 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: of times it was just like, I need three minutes 746 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: to write so I can get some of these thoughts 747 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 1: out of my head onto paper, so I can like 748 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: come back tonight and revisit them because I'm not going 749 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: to remember why I was all sad today. It's a whirlwind. 750 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 1: In fact, you know, if I was thirty five and single, 751 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if I could say yes to doing it. 752 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if I have this, DaMina. There is 753 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: one person though that I know, Bob, I relate with that. 754 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: But there is one person I think that savored the moment, 755 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 1: and maybe the only lead that I know that really did. 756 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: Jojo talks about like how much fun she had and 757 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: how enjoyable the experience was. I wish I would have 758 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: had more of that mentality. I wish I would enjoyed 759 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: it more because it was more like a work, like 760 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: I'm going I'm here intentionally to do one thing to 761 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 1: find somebody, and it's going to be hard. The rest 762 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: of the way you did have. 763 00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 5: I was a hybrid. 764 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 4: I think I was a hybridween you guys, because I 765 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 4: really like, I really enjoyed the moments until they got 766 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 4: really real at the end, and then I felt Then 767 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 4: I felt like it was grueling to try and figure 768 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 4: out the right thing. 769 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 5: I was always weary of hurting people feelings. Yeah, that 770 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 5: was my big thing, Bob. 771 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: We are going to dive into the season. There is 772 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 1: a moment that people still talk about Uh, that became 773 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 1: a very big moment for you. During the season. There's 774 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,719 Speaker 1: a moment with Kelly Joe where you told her she 775 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: isn't the one, and the reaction I think brought in 776 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: the audience's attention. Can you tell us more about what 777 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 1: was actually happening? 778 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know it was she was of my 779 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 4: final two, and it came down to that moment, you know, 780 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 4: the big the big reveal, when you're standing there surrounded 781 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 4: by flowers and you're in a tuxedo and they're in 782 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 4: they're beautiful gowns, and I mean, truth be told. 783 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,040 Speaker 5: Uh. I. 784 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 4: You know, I've often thought about this when people will say, 785 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 4: you know, oh, I don't know how you could be 786 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 4: even confused at that moment. 787 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 5: You know, you either know or you don't. 788 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 4: And and I was still very confused. I was still 789 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 4: kind of trying to put it together, the emotions and 790 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 4: what I was going to do? 791 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 5: Am I going to propose? Am I not? What am 792 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 5: I doing here? You know? 793 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 4: And and back back then the show was a lot 794 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 4: more formulaic in the way that they presented it. You know, 795 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 4: so if if you know when they're cutting the show 796 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 4: together and they know you're choosing girl number two, Well, 797 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 4: then girl number one is going to be for sure 798 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 4: head and shoulders above everyone as the clear favorite, right, 799 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 4: And so it almost was a disservice to the to 800 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 4: the to the woman that you did select, because then 801 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 4: you'd start your relationship and everyone's like, well man, I 802 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 4: mean it looked like you were going to totally be 803 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,239 Speaker 4: with you know, this girl, and it almost created this 804 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 4: like weirdness that was really difficult I think for people 805 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 4: to maintain a relationship after that too, because it played 806 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 4: into all your fears and all your you know, your 807 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 4: trepidation about being on the show and was he going 808 00:33:59,320 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 4: to choose. 809 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 5: Her until just came down the hill or whatever? 810 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 4: But anyway, Yeah, Kelly Joe comes down the hill, and 811 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 4: she's a very bubbly personality, and we definitely. 812 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 5: Cold acted throughout the whole season. 813 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,800 Speaker 4: I mean, there was no question Kelly Joe and Estella 814 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 4: who I ended up ultimately choosing or they were the 815 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 4: clear you know, final two, given the way that I 816 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 4: had reacted to them and vice versa. And Kelly Joe 817 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 4: was very spunky to this day, like we've remained friendly. 818 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 4: She's been on almost famous Dogs actually, Yeah, and and 819 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 4: she comes down and. 820 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 5: I you know, they didn't know which order they were 821 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:36,919 Speaker 5: coming down. 822 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 4: They didn't know that Estella hadn't already come down, so 823 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 4: she assumes that she's the one. And when I say, 824 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 4: you know, I'm telling her how great she is, and 825 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 4: I'm like butt, and oh my god. When I say 826 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 4: the word you know, but or however or whatever I said, 827 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,240 Speaker 4: she's holding my hands and I remember her just whipping 828 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 4: them down and just looking at me like she was 829 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 4: gonna punch me in the face. And the look was legit, 830 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 4: Like I mean, I was like there was some fear 831 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie because she was that spunky and 832 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,839 Speaker 4: that fiery, and I was like, oh my god, she's 833 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,320 Speaker 4: gonna she's gonna totally punch me out. And she didn't, thankfully. 834 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 4: But then when I said, she like turned around to 835 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 4: walk away, and I'm like, hold on, you know, may 836 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 4: I walk you back to the car and she's like fine, 837 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 4: you know, And you know, that was the first time 838 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 4: I think that the that the reaction was such on 839 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 4: the show, because I was still early on, and I 840 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 4: think up until that point people were sad when they 841 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 4: didn't get the final rows, but they weren't mad. And man, 842 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 4: she was mad, and I'll never forget it because I 843 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 4: was talking about that even when we're going on the 844 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 4: tour to parade around, you know, Estella and I to 845 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 4: talk about our relationship and where we're at with things, 846 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 4: and they're asking about Kelly Joe and why she was 847 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 4: you know, she was all pissed off, and you know, 848 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,879 Speaker 4: it was crazy. It was a crazy experience for sure, 849 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 4: and it definitely set the tone for you know, a 850 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 4: lot of things to come after that. 851 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, have you talked to Escella at all in the 852 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 3: past twenty years? 853 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah, yeah, Stella, I we we had coffee a 854 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 4: few times and you know, definitely had a nice closure. 855 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 4: I guess it would be too our relationship and she's 856 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 4: been a gust on almost famous the ogs too, because 857 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:15,879 Speaker 4: there was a period of time where we were having 858 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 4: like every ex I've ever had in my life on 859 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 4: the show. 860 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 5: I'm like, Hey, Trista, when are we gonna have Charlie 861 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:22,839 Speaker 5: on What the hell? Yeah? 862 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,359 Speaker 1: I still I had I have still yet to do that. 863 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: We've had Jojo. 864 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a long time coming, Jojo, it's coming. 865 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 3: You want to do that too. 866 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 2: Remember Nick did that where he had like all of 867 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 2: his season of girls. Come on, do you want to 868 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 2: do that? 869 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 3: Do you want to have all your girls? 870 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 2: Come on? 871 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 3: We can surprise you tomorrow. 872 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, personally, I for your season and because you have 873 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 2: a Bachelor episode as well, for recapping your season. 874 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 5: Oh my goodness. 875 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,880 Speaker 3: So maybe we should just surprise you tomorrow. 876 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 1: There's nothing that would stop me now. I mean I 877 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 1: think I think initially Bob and I sit in the 878 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 1: same place where this experience is very real us, and 879 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 1: I think it is. I think everybody wants it to 880 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 1: be and hopes it is. It isn't always that way. 881 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,319 Speaker 1: Some people get out of this and they're like, I, 882 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 1: you know, I don't mind talking all because like nothing 883 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 1: was like actually ever real next, nothing ever was felt, 884 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,720 Speaker 1: And so I think when you feel it, it's harder 885 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 1: to then even get to a place where you're like, 886 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 1: I would love to talk to you again, Like that's 887 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 1: not a normal human response to like talking to people 888 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 1: that you've dated. At this point in my life, I 889 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: would have no issues because you know, life has moved 890 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,279 Speaker 1: on for everybody in beautiful ways, and so now it's like, yeah, 891 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 1: that could be fun, especially people would listen. I would 892 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 1: love to do that. 893 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 4: Well, I think that's a part of it too, though. 894 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 4: You're in a great place, right. It's like when you're 895 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 4: in a great place and they're in a great place, 896 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 4: you know. Like one of the things I loved about 897 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,360 Speaker 4: talking to Estella when we did was, you know, she 898 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 4: had gotten engaged and now she's married, and it was like, okay, 899 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,359 Speaker 4: you know now and I've got I'm happily married with kids. 900 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 4: It's like, okay, now we can all kumbaya, right, and 901 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 4: we can reminisce and you know, and you keep it 902 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 4: light right. You don't have to you don't have to 903 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,319 Speaker 4: go down the rabbit hole on anything because no one, 904 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 4: you know, cares anymore. You don't care, but no reason to, 905 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 4: you know. But yeah, I actually didn't mind it. I 906 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,280 Speaker 4: actually was was kind of excited about it, to be honest, 907 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,359 Speaker 4: because I knew I was in a good place with 908 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:17,919 Speaker 4: both of them. 909 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 5: So they have them on the show, you know, made. 910 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 4: Me feel i don't know, some some sort of like 911 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 4: you know, accomplishment and some sort of closure. That was 912 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:28,799 Speaker 4: a was a positive thing all the way around, because 913 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 4: we were all in such great places personally. 914 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's great with me. I mean, I've said it 915 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 1: many times in the show. But you know, Chris Lane 916 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 1: and I text about golf all the time. I think 917 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,279 Speaker 1: he's an awesome dude, So like, why not then go 918 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,479 Speaker 1: one step further bring him on too. Let's all chat 919 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 1: like it would. 920 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 5: Be fun, It would be. 921 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,759 Speaker 1: Great, Bob. This is kind of coming off of our 922 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 1: conversation though, has Kanyon watched your season? 923 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 4: So again, Kenyon was Kenyon's much younger than me. Obviously 924 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 4: she's she's your jelling me. So she just turned forty 925 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,840 Speaker 4: one this year, so I think she was a senior 926 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 4: in high school. 927 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,359 Speaker 5: Would that be right math wise? Yeah, she was born 928 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:07,839 Speaker 5: in eighty four. 929 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 3: She been freshman in college. 930 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 5: Maybe a freshman college. Okay, So you know, the big 931 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 5: joke always. 932 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 4: Between Canyon and I was that her mom was the 933 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 4: fan of the show and knew who I was. 934 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 5: But Canyon, you know, Kenye didn't care. 935 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,239 Speaker 4: So needs to say, I unearthed a few different times 936 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 4: when I caught her actually having some knowledge of things 937 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 4: that she shouldn't have known had she not watched any 938 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:27,280 Speaker 4: of my season. 939 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 5: But yeah, she had never watched it. 940 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 4: So my brother in law and my sister had of 941 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 4: course taped every episode or whatever, but they did it 942 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,440 Speaker 4: on TVO. Back in the day that was supposed to 943 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 4: be the new cutting edge technology. It would be around forever. 944 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 4: So we had to dig the TVO out of the 945 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 4: attic and like plug it into a TV because she's like, 946 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 4: I really want to see this. I was super uncomfortable. 947 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie. I'm like, oh my god, are you. 948 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 5: Sure you want to see this? 949 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 4: I'm not sure that this is a good idea. And 950 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 4: thankfully and much too like she loves this part. When 951 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 4: we plugged it into the back of the TV, the 952 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,359 Speaker 4: connections weren't the same and so it was actually black 953 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 4: and white. 954 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 5: Oh my god. That just fed her narrative. 955 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 4: You know, she's like, oh my, and why don't we 956 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,960 Speaker 4: get eight millimeter? I was like, you know, okay on 957 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,239 Speaker 4: the show, is there is there solid on this or 958 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,359 Speaker 4: was this you know, silent silent Bachelor Day? 959 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 5: But it was, you know, it was pretty funny. 960 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 4: And she watched the first like fifteen minutes of it 961 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 4: and she was like, okay, I'm good because it was like, 962 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 4: you know, they do the this season I'm the Bachelor, 963 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 4: and it's like, you know, the whole thing, and you know, 964 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,240 Speaker 4: she got to see me like make out with fifty people, 965 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,239 Speaker 4: and so she was over it, you know, but I 966 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 4: think it was one of those. 967 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 5: Things where it was it was definitely. 968 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,879 Speaker 4: I'm glad she got a little synopsis because she hears 969 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,759 Speaker 4: about it all the time from people, and she can 970 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 4: at least say I watched all I needed to watch 971 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 4: of that season or whatever. 972 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:41,960 Speaker 5: You know. 973 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:44,920 Speaker 4: Her favorite thing to say is, yeah, it's all fun 974 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 4: and games until you live with it, so that's probably 975 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 4: pretty accurate. But no, to answer your question, no, she's 976 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 4: never actually watched my season, but like she says, she's 977 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,280 Speaker 4: she's heard enough about it for a lifetime. 978 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,480 Speaker 2: So you're telling me that you can't find your season anywhere, 979 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 2: because this is what Prince Lorenzo. 980 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 3: Told us as well. 981 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,239 Speaker 5: And Prince Lorenzo bergheasy, I love this. 982 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:09,960 Speaker 2: He came on our podcast and he was like, you 983 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 2: can't find my season anywhere, and I haven't been able to. 984 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 3: And I had no idea that if you have an 985 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 3: old TiVo around you could put it in and kick 986 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:19,400 Speaker 3: start that thing. 987 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,360 Speaker 4: He's got to like put some gas in it and 988 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 4: fire it up. Yeah, my I've been told from some 989 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 4: people that was on that were on my season that 990 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 4: you can find it on like you know, the Hulu 991 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:31,280 Speaker 4: annals or something. 992 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 5: Of that nature. 993 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 3: But what's a Hulu annal? 994 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:34,279 Speaker 5: I don't know, like. 995 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,280 Speaker 4: You can go somewhere and find it like on old 996 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,279 Speaker 4: seasons past. I've never I've never spent too much time 997 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,800 Speaker 4: going to look for it. If I'm being really honest, 998 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 4: I know there's some VHS tapes somewhere in my parents' 999 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,120 Speaker 4: basement that's uh, you know, got all documented for me 1000 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 4: when it's time to show the kids. But actually, to 1001 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,760 Speaker 4: be really funny, you guys, you got so my son Grayson, 1002 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 4: who's six. I I know Ben probably has heard me 1003 00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 4: talk about this before, but my son is really he's 1004 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:02,359 Speaker 4: he's a big personality. 1005 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 5: And I don't know where he gets it from. 1006 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 4: And we were literally like we'll be at McDonald's at 1007 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,279 Speaker 4: the playland and they'll be playing and I'll order, like, 1008 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,239 Speaker 4: you know, a coffee and a couple of happy meals, right, 1009 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:15,200 Speaker 4: and the woman will come over with the tray, you know, 1010 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,319 Speaker 4: with the coffee and the happy meals, and he'll be 1011 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 4: on the playscape and he'll go. 1012 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 5: It's him. Yeah, you can get a picture with him 1013 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 5: if you want. 1014 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 4: It's it's Bachelor Bob, or he'll or he'll call me 1015 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:26,360 Speaker 4: Bob the Builder. 1016 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 5: He'll go, it's Bob the Builder. 1017 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 4: He'll interchange them all the time, and I'm just like, 1018 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,439 Speaker 4: oh my gosh. And I'm like, honey, he's dropping off 1019 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 4: a coffee, she's dropping off the happy meal. 1020 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 5: Bro. 1021 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,560 Speaker 4: She doesn't she's twelve. She doesn't know who I am, 1022 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,960 Speaker 4: you know. But it's like, he loves it. If anyone 1023 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 4: stops to talk to me, like to ask for directions, 1024 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,239 Speaker 4: like I swear to you, he'll go, he'll take a 1025 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:47,799 Speaker 4: picture with you. 1026 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, he'll do it. 1027 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,920 Speaker 4: Hey that they want to, I'm like, buddy, they're asking 1028 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,280 Speaker 4: if you know seven eleven's up here on the corner. 1029 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:54,400 Speaker 5: They're good. 1030 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,480 Speaker 4: So it's become comical to me because my wife like 1031 00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 4: loves it. And I think he gets some of his 1032 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,880 Speaker 4: sense of humor from his mom because she likes to 1033 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 4: put me in uncomfortable spots. But yeah, I think it'll 1034 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 4: be fun someday, you know, to let them see some 1035 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,360 Speaker 4: of that stuff. I hope I can hang. 1036 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:12,839 Speaker 2: On to mind it. I've been trying to search right 1037 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 2: now while you've been telling the story. And that's a 1038 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,080 Speaker 2: hilarious story and I'm obsessed with it. And yeah, if 1039 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,680 Speaker 2: you want to download illegal things. We could definitely get it. 1040 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 2: Why can't just ABC give us these things? I want 1041 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:24,879 Speaker 2: the full series on DVD as well. 1042 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,080 Speaker 5: Well, no, you think they would like they'd want it 1043 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:27,400 Speaker 5: out there. 1044 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,400 Speaker 2: I don't know what I want is all the footage 1045 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,719 Speaker 2: from Jared and My Paradise that never made air, Like 1046 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,759 Speaker 2: I want to see all the embarrassing the. 1047 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,480 Speaker 5: Cutting room floor. I bet there were so many great moments. 1048 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:39,440 Speaker 5: I don't know why. 1049 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 4: You know, we didn't know each other then, obviously, but 1050 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 4: I remember feeling such a I was so happy for 1051 00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,840 Speaker 4: you when you guys finally and you knew it all along, 1052 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,759 Speaker 4: and I was always like, God, I was like, I 1053 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:54,439 Speaker 4: felt like we were such good friends then. 1054 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:55,440 Speaker 5: And it's funny. 1055 00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,120 Speaker 4: I see why people like gravitate to certain people from 1056 00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,880 Speaker 4: the show, because I would the same way. I was 1057 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 4: like fangirling all over you. 1058 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:03,880 Speaker 5: I was like, oh my god, I love it. You know, 1059 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 5: this is so great that they're together. Yeah, I thank you. 1060 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 5: You're very welcome. 1061 00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:23,920 Speaker 2: Bob Gott to end with this fun questions about the 1062 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,560 Speaker 2: delivery room, because that, of course, is going to be 1063 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,040 Speaker 2: in that room within the next thirty days. 1064 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:30,480 Speaker 3: I want to know. 1065 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:32,400 Speaker 5: I'm so excited for you. 1066 00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,640 Speaker 3: Ben let's get a little dad perspective. 1067 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:38,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, what was something in the delivery room that you 1068 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 2: didn't expect, something about getting to the hospital or anything 1069 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:42,440 Speaker 2: like that. 1070 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, you know, we had been given so much advice. 1071 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,680 Speaker 4: We were living in Seattle at the time, and Kenyon 1072 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,880 Speaker 4: is a tough chick, and so like, you know, she 1073 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,719 Speaker 4: wouldn't even really let on that she was, you know, 1074 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,080 Speaker 4: having minor contractions and everything, because we were told, like, 1075 00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,480 Speaker 4: the last thing you want to do is be early 1076 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,320 Speaker 4: to the hospital. They'll send you home, make sure you're 1077 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,400 Speaker 4: you know, you make sure you're in the right place. 1078 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:04,839 Speaker 5: When you get there. 1079 00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 4: And so we might have waited a little too long 1080 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,759 Speaker 4: because the Lions were playing and I was you know, 1081 00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:15,400 Speaker 4: it was it was December. It was December second technically, 1082 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,600 Speaker 4: but she didn't deliver till a third. 1083 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:19,960 Speaker 5: But I was like, oh no, you know, they said 1084 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,720 Speaker 5: we can wait. You know, I was trying to be casual. 1085 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 4: I had my go bag, was ready, I was good 1086 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,560 Speaker 4: to go, you know, and but I was trying to 1087 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,120 Speaker 4: like prolong it a little because we actually lived relatively 1088 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,759 Speaker 4: close to the hospital too. So I will say this, 1089 00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,880 Speaker 4: when we got to the hospital, it got real fast, 1090 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,160 Speaker 4: you know, like even though she hadn't delivered, she didn't 1091 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,960 Speaker 4: deliver for a while, and I was just all of 1092 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,680 Speaker 4: a sudden, I mean, don't you know, and Ben, there 1093 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,879 Speaker 4: is no one and Ashley and I have talked about 1094 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,600 Speaker 4: this before. There is no one born to be a 1095 00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:54,239 Speaker 4: dad more Higgins. I mean, there's no one more more 1096 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,360 Speaker 4: and I and I think of myself as this is 1097 00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 4: my calling too, and I think you're like HEAs and 1098 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:03,359 Speaker 4: shoulders above me. So I feel like, no matter what, 1099 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,719 Speaker 4: you're not ready for it. Okay, So let's just get 1100 00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,120 Speaker 4: that out of the way. Then you get there, and 1101 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 4: you'll you'll never love your wife more than in that moment, 1102 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,360 Speaker 4: and then you'll never love anyone more than that baby 1103 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,480 Speaker 4: from that point on in your life. It's like it 1104 00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:24,000 Speaker 4: changed my life, honestly, God cry. Then you'll be a 1105 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:24,920 Speaker 4: mess like me, you know. 1106 00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,719 Speaker 1: I know I will. That's the part I'm holding on too. 1107 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:32,000 Speaker 1: I'm doing every like masculine, non emotional. 1108 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:36,000 Speaker 5: Thing up until yeah, because because then your life's over. 1109 00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:37,920 Speaker 5: Then you're a total puddle like me every time I 1110 00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:38,880 Speaker 5: talk about my kids. 1111 00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,280 Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm just going to be a mess. 1112 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:42,600 Speaker 5: But I'll say this, you know. 1113 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,799 Speaker 4: So Canyon was going to try and deliver naturally, and 1114 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,560 Speaker 4: so she went through all of it and then all 1115 00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,960 Speaker 4: of a sudden they're like, nope, uh, we're gonna have 1116 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:52,799 Speaker 4: to go see section right. 1117 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,000 Speaker 5: So we go in. I'm expecting. 1118 00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,800 Speaker 4: I'm super stoked because now I'm going to get scrubs 1119 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,440 Speaker 4: and so this, for whatever reason, was my primary thing. 1120 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:03,840 Speaker 4: I'm like, wait, can I you know, so my scrubbing in, 1121 00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:05,920 Speaker 4: am I you know, am I getting the blue hat? 1122 00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,160 Speaker 5: And and I don't. I don't get any of that. 1123 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:12,319 Speaker 4: They threw me like this yellow plastic shirt, and I, 1124 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,200 Speaker 4: you know, I wasn't in the greatest shape, and they're like, 1125 00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:15,480 Speaker 4: you know, you got to take off your shirt cause 1126 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:16,439 Speaker 4: you're gonna be the skin on skin. 1127 00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,480 Speaker 5: I'm like what. And I wasn't prepared for any of that. 1128 00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,879 Speaker 5: And so we go in. I'm in this horrible clown outfit. 1129 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,399 Speaker 4: And I feel like I'm really feeling like I got 1130 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,680 Speaker 4: shafted on that regard. But I'm right up there and 1131 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:29,880 Speaker 4: they're like, you know, well, where do you want to be. 1132 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,279 Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm a shoulders guy. I'm up here, you know. 1133 00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:36,439 Speaker 4: And so that was number one. But then Kenyon, I'll 1134 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,000 Speaker 4: never forget it. Kanyon started having like almost like she 1135 00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,600 Speaker 4: was in shock, like she started shaking really bad. 1136 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:42,880 Speaker 3: That's very common. 1137 00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:43,880 Speaker 5: Is that common? 1138 00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,440 Speaker 3: Yes, my sister in law just had one and she goes. 1139 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:51,880 Speaker 2: I was shivering while being caught open. Yeah, convulsing, she 1140 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,680 Speaker 2: said it revulsing, So be prepared if she needs a 1141 00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:55,200 Speaker 2: sea section. 1142 00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:56,800 Speaker 5: I'm like, oh my god. 1143 00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,439 Speaker 4: When they pulled Grace making him out right now, oh yeah, 1144 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:01,960 Speaker 4: they pulled Grayceon out and they take him over to 1145 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,640 Speaker 4: this warming station and they're cleaning them up and they're 1146 00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:09,239 Speaker 4: like okay Dad, and I am crazy wanting to be there, 1147 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:10,640 Speaker 4: but I can't leave canyon. 1148 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:12,719 Speaker 5: So I'm just like I'm just staying here. 1149 00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:16,439 Speaker 4: And I'm like, okay, you know, all the fingers, all talls, 1150 00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,960 Speaker 4: you everything good. They're like yeah, I'm like you got that. 1151 00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:20,960 Speaker 4: I'll be there as soon as she's okay. I just 1152 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:22,560 Speaker 4: don't want to leave her because someone come over and 1153 00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,320 Speaker 4: help her. And because I was, I was all of 1154 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:25,880 Speaker 4: a sudden like I don't want to leave her alone. 1155 00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:27,440 Speaker 4: And she's looking at me like you know, don't go, 1156 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,320 Speaker 4: and I'm like, oh, you know. I was like is 1157 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,160 Speaker 4: torn And it was like I wasn't expecting. No one 1158 00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,880 Speaker 4: coaches you on that part either. And but the second 1159 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,080 Speaker 4: I could, I went raced over to Grayson and was 1160 00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,200 Speaker 4: just like, you know, oh, I know, laid down and 1161 00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,719 Speaker 4: he was on my chest and I realized, now why 1162 00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:45,919 Speaker 4: I'm in this giant zipperd clown out that I guess, 1163 00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,200 Speaker 4: But it was one of those moments where it's like, 1164 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,880 Speaker 4: you know, all of a sudden everything makes sense. 1165 00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:54,160 Speaker 5: It's like, Okay, now I know why I was in 1166 00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:55,759 Speaker 5: love with this person and wanted to marry her. And 1167 00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,520 Speaker 5: now now I get. If I didn't know before, I 1168 00:48:58,600 --> 00:48:59,480 Speaker 5: sure know now you know. 1169 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,120 Speaker 4: And it's like this is it, this is what we're 1170 00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,640 Speaker 4: supposed to do, and and uh yeah, it's crazy. 1171 00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:05,960 Speaker 3: That's so sweet. 1172 00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,200 Speaker 5: Oh my god, I'm so excited for you, dude, I'm 1173 00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:09,000 Speaker 5: so excited for you. 1174 00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:10,600 Speaker 4: She did. 1175 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:11,160 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1176 00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,520 Speaker 4: When we had the second one, well, first of all, 1177 00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,239 Speaker 4: Blake's you know, Blake. 1178 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:17,600 Speaker 5: Came out with like a Marty gras head. 1179 00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:19,759 Speaker 4: So it's kind of like you know, your kids, like 1180 00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:21,719 Speaker 4: he's like, is. 1181 00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,040 Speaker 5: That a giant balloon? The way? 1182 00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,359 Speaker 4: You know, he's finally growing into it a little, but uh, 1183 00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:31,080 Speaker 4: you know, no, it's one of those things like there's 1184 00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,280 Speaker 4: no way, there's no way. 1185 00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,840 Speaker 5: That Blake was going to come out naturally, but you know, 1186 00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:37,759 Speaker 5: that's just it. That's just it. 1187 00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:39,480 Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean I will say this, man, it 1188 00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,360 Speaker 4: is I'm excited for you guys. I mean, Jess is 1189 00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:45,200 Speaker 4: such a beautiful and wonderful soul and so are you, 1190 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:47,640 Speaker 4: and your kid is going to be. 1191 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:51,120 Speaker 5: So incredibly special. I mean, it's it's just. 1192 00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,440 Speaker 4: And I love how I really do love this, Ashley, 1193 00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,520 Speaker 4: how you and Jared have you know, really kind of 1194 00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,880 Speaker 4: brought Dawson along for the ride in some of those moments, 1195 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,239 Speaker 4: and it's like, I love that you guys do that, 1196 00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,040 Speaker 4: and it's it's always to me, like, that's been so 1197 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,840 Speaker 4: much fun for me with our boys, is when we 1198 00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:09,400 Speaker 4: can stop them from being the hell out of each 1199 00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,560 Speaker 4: other and actually seeing them hug each other once in 1200 00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:15,040 Speaker 4: a while, which does happen too. You know, I'm so 1201 00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,960 Speaker 4: thankful that it's all worked out the way that it has. 1202 00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:19,960 Speaker 4: So I always say this when people are like, you know, 1203 00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:21,480 Speaker 4: would you do it all over again if they ask 1204 00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:22,960 Speaker 4: you to be the Bachelor? And I'm like, because of 1205 00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,400 Speaker 4: the way my life has turned out, my answer is 1206 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,919 Speaker 4: absolutely yes, because I believe firmly that we go through 1207 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,000 Speaker 4: all this stuff to end up where we end up, right, 1208 00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,120 Speaker 4: and so had I had I it's a butterfly effect 1209 00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,960 Speaker 4: that I've done anything differently, I wouldn't be sitting where 1210 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:36,279 Speaker 4: I'm sitting. 1211 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:37,239 Speaker 5: I wouldn't be talking to you guys. 1212 00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,040 Speaker 4: I wouldn't have these two beautiful kids and a beautiful 1213 00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,960 Speaker 4: wife and a life that I'm so thankful to have. 1214 00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,040 Speaker 5: And so it's like, you know, yeah. 1215 00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,560 Speaker 4: I think I think the I think uh, you know, 1216 00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,799 Speaker 4: Lacey Pemberton every day for staying on that casting call 1217 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,640 Speaker 4: when I basically had said, I'm I'm good, thanks, don't 1218 00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:54,960 Speaker 4: want to do anything with you guys, And and I'm 1219 00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,239 Speaker 4: so thankful because I I have had the best ride 1220 00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:58,880 Speaker 4: as a result of it. 1221 00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:04,279 Speaker 1: One of the one of the most recognizable bachelors of 1222 00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,239 Speaker 1: all time. Bob Guiney, thank you for coming on the 1223 00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,640 Speaker 1: Almost Famous podcast. Thanks for being here again. Go and 1224 00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:13,439 Speaker 1: listen to Almost Famous Ogs. It's within our feed, It's 1225 00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,680 Speaker 1: wherever you can listen to podcasts. It's they do an 1226 00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:19,680 Speaker 1: incredible job. Yet Bob and his ex girlfriend Trista. Trista 1227 00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:24,480 Speaker 1: right now is on special Forces. They're breaking down every episode, 1228 00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:29,680 Speaker 1: getting the behind the scenes and the raw emotion of 1229 00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:31,880 Speaker 1: what is actually happening, which I mean, I think that 1230 00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:33,960 Speaker 1: show does a great job at capturing anyways. But you're 1231 00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:38,040 Speaker 1: gonna get it through The Almost Famous OG's podcast. Bob Guiney, 1232 00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:39,040 Speaker 1: thanks for joining us. 1233 00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,480 Speaker 3: I love you guys, Thank you, I love you such 1234 00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:42,080 Speaker 3: a fun time. 1235 00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:42,640 Speaker 5: Bye. 1236 00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,239 Speaker 4: Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast on 1237 00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,520 Speaker 4: iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.