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Speaker 1: should be. Well, Arnie, let's go. Are we go?

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Speaker 2: We're good?

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Speaker 3: I think I know you sent over stuff you want

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Speaker 3: to talk about. I think we should change it up.

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Speaker 3: Do three hours of New York Knicks basketball. Take an

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Speaker 3: hour from Birdie making four hours of New York Knicks basketball.

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Speaker 3: Let's go, Let's get wealthy, Let's get Bill Bradley on,

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Speaker 3: Let's get him all on. Man, come on, I'm so

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Speaker 3: I haven't been this excited about my next team in

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Speaker 3: I don't know since I was born, I mean since

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Speaker 3: those days, since my mom used to take me to

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Speaker 3: a Madison Square garden when we couldn't afford it, and

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Speaker 3: we get in with tickets and return them and so

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Speaker 3: we wouldn't have to pay for them.

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Speaker 2: And go to the games.

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Speaker 3: Man, It's just it's so exciting right now. I'm hoping

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Speaker 3: they can get through all the injuries though.

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Speaker 1: What can we can we get Rinaldo Balkman and Kevin

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Speaker 1: Knox and I don't know, just let's let's start running

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Speaker 1: down all the way they go. Frederick Weiss is known

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Speaker 1: for one thing, and it's not what you want to

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Speaker 1: be known for. He is known for basically being I

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Speaker 1: don't know the the hurdle for Vince Carter.

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Speaker 3: Oh what he got is that what it was that

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Speaker 3: was the posterize of the dunk.

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Speaker 1: Posterize is one way to put It's still one of

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Speaker 1: the most vicious things.

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Speaker 3: I didn't even know he actually made it out to

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Speaker 3: the court for the New York Knicks, how about that?

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Speaker 1: So I don't know if he did. The only thing

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Speaker 1: that was in the international competition. But yes, we will

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Speaker 1: talk plenty of Nick's basketball before the end of the program.

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Speaker 1: In fact, we'll jump into it in the next segment.

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Speaker 1: But let's talk about the business that was handled today first,

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Speaker 1: the game that just ended. Celtics over the Cavs. They've

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Speaker 1: been better on the road in the playoffs than they

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Speaker 1: have been at home. They win by thirteen. Tatum has

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Speaker 1: thirty three interesting. Torres is not here, but he sent

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Speaker 1: me a take a couple of days ago about the Celtics,

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Speaker 1: and as soon as he said it, I felt like

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Speaker 1: I could have said the exact same thing. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you agree here, but I don't know what

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Speaker 1: it is about Boston. They're just not interesting to me

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Speaker 1: right Like they're kind of dull compared to some of

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Speaker 1: We've seen these guys in these playoffs situations before. I'm

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's a word. Not that they're not interesting. There's

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Speaker 1: Their branded basketball right now just doesn't have my attention.

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Speaker 3: And you know what's funny, we really should not feel

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Speaker 3: that way for now. They have two superstars in Tatum

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Speaker 3: They could put up thirty on any given night. Back

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Speaker 3: He was a great defensive player. He'd certainly knock you

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Speaker 3: know they were the number one seed in the Eastern Conference.

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Speaker 3: So what exactly do we want from them? I mean,

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Speaker 3: But man, they got to step it up. This was

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Speaker 3: But you're right, They're not an interesting team, but they

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Speaker 1: Remember Jaylen Brown.

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Speaker 3: Said he want to be working on his fifth or

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's why we don't put him in the higher

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I do think it is. It's become

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Speaker 1: I would still be relatively excited to watch SGA play

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Speaker 1: And then Denver's a defending champion and you want to

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Speaker 1: we have the history of what that rivalry had been,

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Speaker 1: and yeah, it is you're not the only one. Apparently

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Speaker 1: say it, Like Kendrick Perkins came out and it was

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Speaker 1: just like, can we find out whether or not Jalen

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Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, Yeah, so I and he wasn't speaking alone,

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Speaker 1: as you certainly agree, but I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: been dramatic. We've had the ref show show up here.

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Speaker 1: It's just something about this Celtics Cavs series where maybe

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Speaker 1: unimpressive they're going to be a long way to get

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Speaker 3: Well, they lost that one game to Miami, and they

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Speaker 2: Go ahead and win it.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, no, no when this series. I don't know

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Speaker 2: That's a terrible loss for the Knicks.

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Speaker 3: I mean more than even people imagine, absolutely horrible. And

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Speaker 3: I want to see if the Boston series ends up

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Speaker 3: then the Celtics are sitting around getting healthy, resting. I

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Speaker 3: don't think the Knicks have a chance when all the

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Speaker 3: it works out for the Knicks tomorrow. But I think

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Speaker 3: I think the Celtics win it, but then it makes

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know, bark we said the other ninety

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Speaker 1: was just like the Knicks Pacer series. As good as

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Speaker 1: And we'll get into that a little bit more after

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Speaker 1: Knicks with Brunson, with Josh Hart and Devincenzo just seems

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Speaker 1: he had two matches, right.

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Speaker 2: He was a big part of Milwaukee.

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Speaker 3: He was He's had a better pro career than I expected.

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Speaker 1: That absolutely.

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Speaker 3: You know, it proves one thing when you look at

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Speaker 3: that's a big one and the right pieces around them.

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Speaker 3: All you really need is the right pieces around you,

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Speaker 3: and you can go far. You don't need the big three.

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Speaker 3: I hate when Celtic fans use that as an excuse.

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Speaker 3: We need one more person. We need to go ahead

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Speaker 3: and get that third person out there. The Knicks would

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Speaker 3: die for another person, and they very well may by

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Speaker 3: next year. But right now, I just love the makeup

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Speaker 1: Jason, Yeah, well, I mean, you know, they've got poor things.

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Speaker 1: It hasn't been out there for them.

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Speaker 1: I think that. And we saw this with the Lakers,

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Speaker 1: you can go a decent ways. But if you've got

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Speaker 1: too all you got to do is make sure that

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Speaker 1: they're complimented. You don't duplicate them. You can't xerox the

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Speaker 1: basketball team. That's what Phoenix tried to do. Phoenix tried

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Speaker 1: got beat and their coach got ousted, and apparently they

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Speaker 1: So that's a that's a story.

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Speaker 3: By the way, I'm just gonna ask you, how long

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Speaker 3: somebody's just not going to work out, if you get

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Speaker 3: rid of them right away after your first year, I

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Speaker 3: should you have at least three years?

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Speaker 2: Or is that just the old days? You know?

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Speaker 1: I guess it just it just it's hard to say

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Speaker 1: if it's your money and you're the one that's footing

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Speaker 1: the bill, if you are relatively sure you know what

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Speaker 1: this is not working.

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Speaker 2: You still got to pay the guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true, you still got to pay him. If

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Speaker 1: Brunson was going to be fourth in the MVP voting

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Speaker 1: the way that he was this year and step out

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Speaker 1: the way that he has for the Knicks. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's become the heart and soul of the team, right,

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Speaker 1: So let's talk about that because that's your squad. Yes,

436
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Speaker 1: and they're relevant, and I actually I'm excited that they

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Speaker 1: are relevant. It's I think I think the NBA is

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Speaker 1: better with a Knicks that is not an embarrassment. Quite frankly,

439
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Speaker 1: I think it's a I like Madison Square Garden to matter.

440
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Speaker 1: I like that atmosphere and the way everything has felt.

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Speaker 1: It's been a really good series. It's been hard fought,

442
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Speaker 1: it's been closed, it's been tight. You've seen a lot

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Speaker 1: of big time shots made on both sides. But I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna say this from the Pacers perspective, and I teased

445
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Speaker 1: this earlier, there is something missing with the Indiana Pacers,

446
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Speaker 1: Like down the stretch, I do not believe in them.

447
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Speaker 1: They end up winning Game three, I'm kind of shocked

448
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Speaker 1: by it. Tyrese Halliburton is an outstanding player and we

449
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Speaker 1: don't even know if he's gonna be able to go.

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Speaker 2: He's questionable for Game number four right now.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I mean he's got like three different ailments and

452
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Speaker 1: it doesn't sound good. But I'm sure he's gonna try

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Speaker 1: to cut it out, but it kind of blew me

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Speaker 1: away watching Game three late how he was afraid to

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Speaker 1: take shots like he was just not He was trying

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Speaker 1: to get the ball out of his hands pretty much

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Speaker 1: at any cost late, and he was I mean, he

458
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Speaker 1: was draining shots early. He's got Caitlyn cheering for him

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Speaker 1: in the hands when he hits the fifth three in

460
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Speaker 1: the first half. He's passing to Pascal Siakam, who's shooting

461
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Speaker 1: like fifteen percent from the free throw line right in

462
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Speaker 1: the playoffs, I think it's legitimately like forty some percent.

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Speaker 3: So I think the double team him to get the

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Speaker 3: ball out of his hands a couple of times, and

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Speaker 3: then he spotted his teammates open. I mean, they do

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Speaker 3: score a lot of points, so there are a lot

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Speaker 3: of scorers on that team, and it doesn't all have

468
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Speaker 3: to be him.

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Speaker 2: I know it starts with him.

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Speaker 3: He's a great passer too, leads the team and the cists,

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Speaker 3: lead the league and has.

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Speaker 2: Says, so you know, he certainly could do it all.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't have to always shoot, and even though he

474
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Speaker 3: was on fire, that's when you have to certainly pull

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Speaker 3: the trigger.

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Speaker 1: Though that's It just seems to be like there's something

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Speaker 1: different between watching him, there's a difference in his mentality,

478
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Speaker 1: as good as he is and Jalen Brunson's. Brunson goes

479
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Speaker 1: right into you, forces the issue, takes the tough shot,

480
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Speaker 1: clearly wants the ball in his hands, trusts himself in

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Speaker 1: those moments to make the right decisions. Halliburton, you mentioned

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Speaker 1: that they doubled him a few times. They did, but

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Speaker 1: there were also sometimes they didn't, And it seems like

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Speaker 1: you wanted to get the ball out of his hands

485
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Speaker 1: also in that moment You've got to have. The Pacers

486
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Speaker 1: need a guy who wants the ball in that moment

487
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Speaker 1: all the time. Doesn't just want it in the second

488
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Speaker 1: quarter to keep you down three or to keep you

489
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Speaker 1: up five, wants it in the fourth quarter when it's clutching.

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Speaker 1: It's tough. And I didn't see that from him the

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Speaker 1: way that I wanted to in Game three. But I

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Speaker 1: think that all three of these games. Yeah, we can

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Speaker 1: talk the refs, and maybe we will after we hear

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Speaker 1: from Kevin Wyert here in a second, but I think

495
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Speaker 1: they've all come down to which team rebounded better in

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Speaker 1: the last five minutes. Of the game. The Knicks got

497
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Speaker 1: like every key offensive rebound insg and in Game three

498
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Speaker 1: there were like three four possessions of the last ten

499
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Speaker 1: probably where the Pacers had three shots every time when

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Speaker 1: they hit the ball. Yeah, the big three, that's right.

501
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Speaker 2: Big three was off and off offensive rebound.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, let that be a lesson everybody

503
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Speaker 3: to get into just because you can't grab the ball

504
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Speaker 3: to get the offensive rebound.

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Speaker 1: I love what the Knicks do.

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Speaker 3: They slapped that ball out there and tip it up

507
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Speaker 3: and smack it out there and they track it on down.

508
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Speaker 2: You don't have to grab it, just hit it out there.

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Speaker 2: Your guy will grab.

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Speaker 1: It, you know. Yeah, that's absolutely right. So we will

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Speaker 1: jump back into this discussion and we'll talk about the

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Speaker 1: Rev Show a little bit when we come back. Let's

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Speaker 1: go out to uh let's go out to Sherman Oaks Final.

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Speaker 1: What's happening in the world of sports and take it

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Speaker 1: to Kevin Wire. Kevin.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the Celtics and Cavaliers has gone final not too

517
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Speaker 6: long ago, and it is Boston taking a two to

518
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Speaker 6: one series lead.

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Speaker 7: From the the final seconds tick off the clock and

520
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 7: it's like a rerun roundhog Day again and again and again.

521
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Speaker 7: The Celtics lose a game at home, then come on

522
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Speaker 7: the road and wrestle home court advantage right back. The

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Speaker 7: final score in Game three Boston one oh six, Cleveland

524
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Speaker 7: ninety three. The Celtics leave the series two games to one.

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Speaker 7: That was the Celtics radio work with the call. Boston

526
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Speaker 7: taking that two to one series lead, largely thanks to

527
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Speaker 7: the work, I mean, as it often does. Jason Tatum

528
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Speaker 7: three thirty three points on eleven at twenty five shooting.

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Speaker 7: Jalen Brown had twenty eight points, Drew Holliday had eighteen,

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Speaker 7: So a lot of guys contributing for the Celtics, but

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Speaker 7: for the Cavaliders there's really Donovan Mitchell. Evan Mobley also

532
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Speaker 7: helped out a bit too, but really they didn't get

533
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Speaker 7: much other help at all from the rest of their teammates.

534
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Speaker 7: Mitchell had thirty three points, Mobley at seventeen. We did

535
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Speaker 7: see Darius Garland come on strong a little toward the end,

536
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Speaker 7: so we ended up finishing with fifteen, but for the

537
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Speaker 7: most part it was just Mitchell and Mobley getting it

538
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Speaker 7: done for the Cavaliers as they.

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Speaker 1: Come up short.

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Speaker 6: Donovan Mitchell went seven to twelve shooting from beyond the

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Speaker 6: three point line. Did the rest of the team combine

542
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Speaker 6: five of twenty four, so it really was a struggle

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Speaker 6: for anyone not named Donovan Mitchell or Evan Mobley. In

544
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Speaker 6: the game featween the Mavericks and the thunder Dallas wins

545
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Speaker 6: at one oh five, one on one. They take a

546
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Speaker 6: two to one lead in that series. The big three

547
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Speaker 6: for the Mavericks getting it done PJ. Washington, Kyrie, Irving,

548
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Speaker 6: Luka Doncic combining for seventy one points. Washington with twenty seven,

549
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Speaker 6: Kyrie and Luca each with twenty two. Luca also had

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Speaker 6: himself fifteen rebounds and five assists. Shake Guiltis Alexander had

551
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Speaker 6: a great game, came up just short, but he left

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Speaker 6: it all out on the court thirty one points, ten rebounds,

553
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Speaker 6: six assists, five blocks. That's actually the second most in

554
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Speaker 6: a single game by a point guard in NBA history.

555
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Speaker 6: Fred Van Fleet did get six in a game back

556
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Speaker 6: on January twenty fourth, But other than that, a bunch

557
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Speaker 6: of guys tied with Shake Guiltes Alexander with five blocks

558
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Speaker 6: as a point guard in a single game. In the

559
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Speaker 6: NHL Stanley Cup Playoffs, Hurricane Stay Alive in their series,

560
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Speaker 6: with the Rangers winning at four to three, so they're

561
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Speaker 6: now behind in that series three games to one. One

562
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Speaker 6: game going on right now, Stars and Avalanche up in Denver.

563
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Speaker 6: They're in the middle of the second period and it

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Speaker 6: is Dallas leading this one two to one. Major League

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Speaker 6: Baseball everything most everything, actually, all but two games have

566
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Speaker 6: gone final, Athletics leaving the Mariners two to one. They're

567
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Speaker 6: in the eighth inning, Angels pounding the Royals nine to three.

568
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Speaker 6: They're in the seventh out in Anaheim, but everything else

569
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Speaker 6: has concluded. Dodgers finished off the Padres five to nothing.

570
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Speaker 6: Rockies over the Rangers eight three. Brewers come back to

571
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Speaker 6: beat the Cardinals five to three, Giants over the Reds

572
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Speaker 6: five to one. White Sox edge the Guardians three one.

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Speaker 6: Tiger's bough at the Astros eight to two, Red Sox

574
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Speaker 6: over the Nationals four to two. Phillies beat the Marlins

575
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Speaker 6: eight to three, Raise over the Yankees seven to two,

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Speaker 6: Braves beat the Mets four to one, Pirates outlast the

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Speaker 6: Cubs ten to nine, and the Orioles edge the Diamondbacks

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Speaker 6: five to four.

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Speaker 1: Back to you, guys, Thank you, Kevin. Welcome back into

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Speaker 1: ireck dot com. Studios, Fox Sports Saturday. He's Arnie Spanier,

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Speaker 1: I'm Jason Martin. All right, back to Nick's Pacers. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: how do you feel about the officiating?

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Speaker 3: You know, first of all, I'm not gonna cry about

584
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 3: it the way Carlisle is. It's starting to just be

585
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 3: a little bit too much. The whole we're gonna send

586
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Speaker 3: in one hundred and seventy two plays that they melt

587
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Speaker 3: it with seventy seventy six I think. But yes, it's ridiculous.

588
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 3: It's absolutely ridiculous. And you know, look, there's a lot

589
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 3: of plays we can call like that. I could have

590
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Speaker 3: said the same thing in Game three was a goaltending

591
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 3: on the on the Jason hard shot. You know how

592
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Speaker 3: many times they they admitted that they made a mistake

593
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Speaker 3: where they were holding a heart and shine it happens,

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Speaker 3: it's gonna be basketball. That being said, the referees are

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Speaker 3: horrible at their job. They really really are. Look, if

596
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Speaker 3: they're gonna go ahead and at least, you know, miss calls,

597
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 3: they're missing.

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Speaker 2: It both ways. So I could at least be happy

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Speaker 2: about that.

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Speaker 1: And I do like the fact consistently horrific.

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Speaker 3: Well, right, And I do like the fact that they

602
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Speaker 3: don't call everything. The last thing we want is a

603
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Speaker 3: free throw shooting contest. But wow, do they miss a

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Speaker 3: lot of calls or what?

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Speaker 1: The kickball is? Just the kickball in game one.

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Speaker 3: Is double dribble by heart, double dribble from what he

607
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 3: was just as bad.

608
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Speaker 2: What do you watch now?

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Speaker 1: What did you possibly see that you think that was

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Speaker 1: a double dribble?

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Speaker 3: I could see you know where maybe he used his

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Speaker 3: other hand to dribble and you just missed it.

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Speaker 2: It happens, Jason, you missed that.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to whistle.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't even close though it was.

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Speaker 1: Somebody gonna pointed him. I mean, it's Rick Carlisle, really

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Speaker 1: gonna point him, say that's a double dribble. No, I

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Speaker 1: have a hard time believing it now. Carlisle, Yeah, is

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Speaker 1: for his situation. We know what he was doing, right,

620
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Speaker 1: and he got fined thirty five grand, but he just

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Speaker 1: wanted to get a couple of extra calls in game.

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Speaker 2: Three, right, absolutely, And so mean he.

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Speaker 1: Gets ejected in game two, he kind of goes off

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Speaker 1: the deep end in the press conference. They send a

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00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: thousand calls to the league, all of that kind of stuff,

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Speaker 1: and then maybe they get a few calls in Game three,

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Speaker 1: and maybe they get a few calls in Game four,

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Speaker 1: and the officials are a little bit extra tuned to

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Speaker 1: try and kind of balance this thing back out, and

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Speaker 1: so it's a little bit of game samesmanship. Now. I

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Speaker 1: do think that they got hose in game one. I do.

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Speaker 1: I think that in Game three the Knicks the Knicks.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that they got hose, but they definitely

634
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Speaker 1: came up on the short end of some calls that

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Speaker 1: they were not coming up short on at Madison Square Garden.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that I think watching it, not from

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Speaker 1: the official standpoint, I do think the Knicks are the

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Speaker 1: better basketball team. I do. I think they are a

639
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Speaker 1: more cohesive, tougher, more physical and again because they're playing

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Speaker 1: kind of at the heartbeat of Jalen Brunston, there's something

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Speaker 1: different about them. There's a toughness about them that you

642
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Speaker 1: really like. It's kind of similar to what you're seeing

643
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: in Minnesota to some degree, even though it didn't work

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Speaker 1: out for him in Game three, when they were playing

645
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Speaker 1: like by the heartbeat of Karl Anthony Towns, there was

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Speaker 1: something that didn't feel quite right. But now that you're

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Speaker 1: playing with the heartbeat of Anthony Edwards, everything's a little

648
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Speaker 1: bit different for them. I think that's what it is

649
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: like they are They are playing of the pulse of

650
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: a really really competitive, hard nos tough minded and in

651
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: a lot of ways if you listen to him, humble

652
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: to some degree star in Jayalen Brunson, and that's made

653
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: all the difference for them, it has.

654
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 3: I mean, first of all, to go to Anthony Edwards,

655
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 3: he's just been phenomenal. It's it's it's just what he's

656
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 3: been able to do. And I mean he's just gonna

657
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 3: get better and better. I know people are comparing him

658
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 3: to Michael Jordan. I would obviously pump the brakes because

659
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 3: part of the comparison is not only the game being

660
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,479
Speaker 3: played on the court, but how many championships you won.

661
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 2: He's not won none, so you can't.

662
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 3: Really go to that, and that's that's getting absolutely ridiculous.

663
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,239
Speaker 3: But he has one hell of a player. Brunson's just

664
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Speaker 3: been phenomenal. I mean the points he's put up, the

665
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 3: thirty five plus points, forty point games, they're double teaming them,

666
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 3: they're hitting them hard.

667
00:31:58,400 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 2: He's not one hundred percent.

668
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 3: You can see that last game he was really just

669
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 3: just struggling.

670
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 2: He's missed time.

671
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 3: I mean, they had to take him out of the

672
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 3: game last game, He's missed his first three shots and

673
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 3: then he hurt his ankle. So how the Knicks were

674
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 3: able to even stay close. I would have bet my

675
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 3: life on the Pacers in Game three minus seven and

676
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 3: a half, I thought they were gonna win by fifty.

677
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 3: I thought the Knicks were just gonna say, I give up,

678
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 3: We're gonna punt, we're gonna arrest everybody, and we're just

679
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 3: gonna give you the game. They did not do that

680
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 3: at all. They play with a heart, they play with toughness.

681
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 3: You gotta love the villain over three. As you mentioned Dante,

682
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 3: he's just I mean, except for Steph Curry, how many

683
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 3: better three point shooters are there than him?

684
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 2: He's just been phenomenal.

685
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 3: It's just been a great series, and really the Knicks

686
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 3: are the only intriguing team people really.

687
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 2: Want to see. You know that, don't you?

688
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: People is a plural term. Party. Yes, you are referring

689
00:32:55,400 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: to yourself. That's say person, yeah, okay you yes. Now

690
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: look again, this of the I mean those two series,

691
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: the Wolves Nuggets unfortunately hasn't gone down to the wire

692
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: in these games. I think of the of all of

693
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: the series so far this playoffs, that one's been the best. Like,

694
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: I've really enjoyed that Dix Pacers. I've watched almost every

695
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: dribble of that series and it's just been great, great stuff.

696
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: And I hope that it's gonna go pretty long. I

697
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: know you're hoping that, you know it will not, You're

698
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 1: hoping it'll be over in five, but I tend to

699
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: think it's gonna go longer than that. But there's definitely

700
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: some gamesmanship going on, and injuries are starting to pile up. Annobe.

701
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: They need him back and they need him to be

702
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: something for them.

703
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 2: I don't know if they're going to get him back this.

704
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if they are not, but it feels, man,

705
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: he was unreal in that game. They needed all of

706
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: them too, with brunts and missing so much time and

707
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: then finding his way back on the floor, and then

708
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: of course they at once the momentum came and he

709
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: was on the floor in that game. You knew that

710
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: were gonna win that game. Yeah, you know, that was

711
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: easy to see coming.

712
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 3: He's still just so banged up though, you just worry

713
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 3: about him taking a shot getting knocked to the ground.

714
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,760
Speaker 3: The Pacers are getting the calls at home. It's home cooking.

715
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 3: That's what you have there for it, just like the

716
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 3: Knick Scott at home. So it'll be I think it's

717
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 3: gonna be a great game for even without Og, they're

718
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 3: gonna have to find a way to win this. I

719
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 3: think Brunson's gonna be okay. He wasn't even listed on

720
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 3: the injury report, so that's good to see. I'm not

721
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 3: so sure that hal Burton's gonna play this game if

722
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 3: it's the bad back. If it's the bad back guy,

723
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 3: I agree with you. If it's the bad back, then

724
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 3: he's not gonna be able to get on the court.

725
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:38,720
Speaker 3: And I don't think he's gonna be able to play.

726
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's. They can't win without him because they

727
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 1: can't score enough because they don't play defense anyway. So

728
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 1: it's not like they're gonna go out there and hold

729
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: the Knicks to eighty points. Find a way to win.

730
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: That's their problem. They have to have him scoring twenty

731
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 1: five minimum.

732
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 2: You say they you can't win. Here's a little pet

733
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 2: peeve of mine.

734
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 3: There's how many guys on the team fifteen? What are guys,

735
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,280
Speaker 3: he's eleven through. What are you paying the guys eleven

736
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 3: through fifteen to four? What are you paying them a

737
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 3: million or.

738
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 2: Two lines for five million dollars a year?

739
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: Their reactions to big threes in dunks are priceless.

740
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,439
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, seriously, though, way you can't play these guys.

741
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 2: You're paying them.

742
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 1: You can play them, but are they gonna go in

743
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: and are they gonna go in and shoot eleven for nineteen?

744
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 1: From the field?

745
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 2: Bird had fourteen points?

746
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: Did you see that?

747
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 3: He came in at fourteen points? You gotta trust these guys.

748
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 3: They're on the team for a reason, Jason. Look, they

749
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 3: should be able to give you minutes. The Nick players

750
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 3: are just so tired and spent. You can't even put

751
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 3: these guys in for five minutes. What do you what

752
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:40,839
Speaker 3: are you paying them for if you can't play them

753
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 3: for five minutes?

754
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: So when we come back a thought experiment, The Celtics

755
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 1: are the number one seed in the East. We've talked

756
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: a lot of Knicks. If you had the choice to

757
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 1: take one of the stars of the Celtics or the

758
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: star of the Knicks straight up, and I don't mean

759
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,439
Speaker 1: one on one, I mean you could you could have

760
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: one of them. You could trade one side to get

761
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: the other side. Would you do it? We'll discuss when

762
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: we come back. It's Fox Sports Saturday, Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. Welcome back, Tyreck

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Speaker 1: dot Com Studios. It's Fox Sports Saturday here on Fox

765
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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Ten minutes away from Mother's Day. Oh boy

766
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: in the East.

767
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,760
Speaker 3: I'm always not sure what to do because my mom's

768
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,879
Speaker 3: not around anymore. Do I do something for my wife

769
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 3: or I just let my son take care of all that.

770
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 3: I just I always wonder should get her a card,

771
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 3: get her something? And I always end up getting her nothing.

772
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 1: So well, I mean, my wife is, you know, the

773
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 1: mother of our two daughters, right, And I realized, just

774
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: because of everything else that's been going on and my

775
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: second daughter now just being six weeks old and all

776
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: that's gone into that, and just trying to survive during

777
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: this timeframe, I forgot to get a RECRD. Oh and

778
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: I thought I was gonna be able to get out today,

779
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: but something happened and we weren't able to get out.

780
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: And so I'm going into Mother's Day cardless and.

781
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 3: That's where you get paper, and yet you draw one

782
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,760
Speaker 3: out you know the homemade card now, Yeah, yeah, I'm.

783
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 1: Gonna find a way to sneak out and get one tomorrow.

784
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 1: I did get her a very small gift because we

785
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: kind of we got a large gift for giving birth,

786
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: so that kind of yeah, that kind of included everything

787
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: that was going on. But yeah, Happy Happy Mother's Day

788
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: to all the mothers out there, and of course we

789
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: know it's something it could be a difficult day for

790
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: a lot of people out there, so we're we're with

791
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:40,240
Speaker 1: you tomorrow. Jaywen Brunson, Jason Tatum, Jayleen Brown, whatever whoever

792
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: else you want to throw into the mix. Would you

793
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: trade Brunson for Tatum? Would you trade Brunson for Jayleen Brown?

794
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 1: Would you trade Bruntson for anybody on the top seated Celtics?

795
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 3: Right now, I'll give you three answers to that. No,

796
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 3: I would not Tradealen Brown. Excuse me, Brunson for Tatum.

797
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 3: I'm keeping Brunson. I would not trade Brunson for Jalen Brown.

798
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 3: So I'm still keeping Brunson because that's how much I

799
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,760
Speaker 3: love Brunson. And here's the kicker, I'm not even traded

800
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 3: Brunson for both.

801
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 2: Tatum and Brown.

802
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 1: Yes, you can.

803
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 2: You could keep them both.

804
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 3: I'll build around Brunson. You could build around Tatum and Brown.

805
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 3: So I'm not trading him for one, either one or

806
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:29,240
Speaker 3: the other, or even both of them. I'm happy with Brunson.

807
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 3: I like his attitude. I like the way he fits

808
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 3: in with his teammates. You would think you would have

809
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 3: thought the Celtics would have won a championship by now

810
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 3: with those two. It hasn't happened. And they've had good

811
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,399
Speaker 3: coaches out there. They've been through some, but they've had

812
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 3: some good coaching. I just I'm not I'm not making

813
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 3: a move. Brunson is going to be with me.

814
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: Yeah see, I'm with you, and that's frightening. But completely

815
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 1: agree with you a million percent. I think you build

816
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 1: around Brunson too, because again I like I like the

817
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: pulse that he puts on that team, and I like

818
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: the competitors and just the edge that comes with the

819
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: physicality and the way that they force the issue. They've

820
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: got guys that believe over there and the c I

821
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: don't know what it is with the Celtics, but it's

822
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: just even though they're the number one seed, they still

823
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 1: it does not feel the edge is not there.

824
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 3: They're not a scary number one seed. Yeah, they're not

825
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 3: a scary number one seed at all. I do not

826
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 3: fear them whatsoever. I think a lot of teams will

827
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,760
Speaker 3: love to take a crack at them. To be honest

828
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 3: with you, they'll go ahead and make it to the

829
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,720
Speaker 3: Eastern Conference Finals and probably get by the next because

830
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 3: they'll be well rested and they're deeper and they're healthier.

831
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 3: But I hope that series drags out a little bit longer.

832
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 3: Kind of even things up.

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Speaker 1: Would you come closer to trading Brunson for Donovan Mitchell

834
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: than either one of those two guys? No, no, no,

835
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Speaker 1: I was just curious.

836
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 2: No, I would.

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Speaker 3: I would love to have Donovan Mitchell on my team.

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00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 3: But then again, then you're taking away from Brunson. I

839
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 3: know Brunson needs help, and there's talk about getting him

840
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 3: some help, but I don't need somebody take away shots

841
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 3: from him.

842
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 2: Really.

843
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 1: No, I mean I agree with you, I'm not disagreeing.

844
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Speaker 1: I was just curious if you felt stronger about Mitchell

845
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 1: than you did the two Celtics players. Yeah, all right,

846
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 1: we'll come back, we'll reset what happened in the NBA

847
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 1: on Saturday. We're gonna look a little bit into the

848
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 1: Lakers coaching search as well, because what in the world

849
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: is happening and it's not gonna be coach Buttonholzer that much.

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00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: We know. We'll come back and chat all about that

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Speaker 2: Yes to this Happy Mother's Day everybody out there.

863
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,399
Speaker 1: If you forgot that, I don't know what to tell

864
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 1: you because the restaurant you want to go to is

865
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 1: probably not going to be available for you.

866
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 3: I already ordered the flowers for my mother in law,

867
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 3: so hopefully I'm stressing that she didn't get it or

868
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:16,919
Speaker 3: she's not going to get it to my I looked

869
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 3: at my credit card. They hadn't charge me yet. I

870
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,439
Speaker 3: go as you call them up to make sure they're

871
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 3: going to do it. But hopefully she'll get her flowers.

872
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: You know, well they're good, nice work by you. Thank you.

873
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: Flowers or flowers are usually a crowd pleaser, although not

874
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:36,399
Speaker 1: for my own mother. My own mother can't handle like cents,

875
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: oh so many dollars and cents, I mean smells, so

876
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 1: flowers would not be a good thing for her.

877
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 2: No.

878
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 3: No, that's when you do the brunch thing. That's when

879
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 3: brunches on the schedule or something like that.

880
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, something something to that, something to that effect. Yes,

881
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: I would agree with you. So we talked a lot

882
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: about uh. We talked about the Celtics and the Calves

883
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: a bit, not necessarily about the Calves and specifics, more

884
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: the Boston side of things. We didn't talk much about

885
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 1: the early game. It's a good one. Maverick's kind of

886
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: in control and then we're able to hit the big

887
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: shot with Kyrie with a hand in his face to

888
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 1: take the series lead to one on the Oklahoma City.

889
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 2: Are people into the playoffs?

890
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 3: Are are people into the NBA playoffs because we don't

891
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 3: have the Lakers, really the only big market. We have

892
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 3: other New York Dicks, we have the Oklahoma City. We

893
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 3: got Minnesota. Minnesota is a fun and exciting team, but

894
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 3: it's Minnesota. I mean, people are just realizing they have

895
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 3: a team right now. Are people getting into it? Or

896
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 3: because we don't have the big names. There's no Golden

897
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 3: State out there. There's no Steph Curry, there's nothing like that,

898
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 3: you know, but.

899
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,320
Speaker 1: We do have Draymond Green calling your Nicks a fluke

900
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 1: on his podcast. That's States because they're in the East

901
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: and they're beating a bunch of mid teams.

902
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 3: Well, he was losing a viewers or listeners, so he

903
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 3: had to go ahead and say something stupid, to go

904
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 3: ahead and get them to come on back or something.

905
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 2: And no, it's it's ridiculous.

906
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 3: I saw him say stuff like that, and let him

907
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 3: go ahead and stir it up.

908
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: But he couldn't.

909
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 2: He couldn't be more wrong about what he was saying.

910
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 1: I mean, you better stir it up on the podcast

911
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: because you're not stirring it up on a basketball court.

912
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 2: I saw that they were looking to trade him.

913
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 3: I don't know if that was a bad rumor or what,

914
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 3: but they were gonna do everything in the offseason to

915
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:16,240
Speaker 3: go ahead and move him.

916
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what what benefit he brings

917
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: you at this point. I mean, he has done a

918
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: lot of good things for your franchise, don't get me wrong, right,

919
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:29,320
Speaker 1: but at this point, what's the plus minus ratio and

920
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: positive to negative ratio and what you're getting out of

921
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 1: Draymond Green in the twenty twenty four to twenty five season.

922
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: I would say that's gonna be way in the negative.

923
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: And if they get rid of try to get out

924
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 1: from underneath that. I would have but I would have

925
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 1: done that last year. I wouldn't have had him back

926
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 1: this year.

927
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 3: So always better to get rid of somebody a year

928
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 3: earlyer than a year late. That's do we get the

929
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 3: Patriot way? If they get rid of Draymond Green, does

930
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 3: that mean they want to keep a Clay or maybe

931
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 3: they're gonna get rid of him both?

932
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 2: And I think they're worth both of them.

933
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: I think I think the only one that really Yeah,

934
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: and he's still phenomenal, so you still keep him, and

935
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: I think you Clay's best days or behind him hadn't

936
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 1: been the same since he came back from the injury,

937
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,720
Speaker 1: but he obviously he has given you still some spark

938
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 1: from time to time after that. But I think most

939
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: people think maybe not. But the going feeling I guess

940
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 1: is he's gonna end up playing for the Lakers to

941
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: finish his career where his dad played and where.

942
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,760
Speaker 3: His dad's you're talking about Clay, Well, I know Orlando

943
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 3: was going to offer him the Moon, so maybe he'll

944
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 3: end up there. Maybe he'll go ahead and chase the

945
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 3: money and do something like that. My question is, if

946
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 3: you're a guy that can force a trade like well,

947
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 3: not like Kevin Duramt, but maybe a Donovan Mitchell or

948
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 3: something like that, would you rather go to the Lakers

949
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 3: and play with Lebron or would you rather go to

950
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 3: Golden State and play with Steph?

951
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 2: Those are your choices.

952
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 1: I would probably say Golden State. And it's not even

953
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: necessarily just a Lebron versus Steph thing, right, I think

954
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: it's a I would rather go play for Steve Kerr

955
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,399
Speaker 1: than whatever unnamed basketball coach is gonna be in LA,

956
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 1: And I trust the way that that team seems to

957
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: build itself more so than I do LA right now,

958
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 1: And if you're a guy like Mitchell, for example, You've

959
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: still got several years left in the league.

960
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 3: Well, Kevin Durant and force of his way, I don't

961
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 3: know if anybody. I don't think he'd ever go back

962
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 3: to Golden State. I don't think that's a possibility.

963
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: No.

964
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 2: They always talk about.

965
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:29,919
Speaker 3: Devin Booker, but I don't think Booker will be wants

966
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 3: leave Phoenix.

967
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: Yeah he may not. I yeah, Durant would can go

968
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 1: back to Golden State. I agree with you on that.

969
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 1: I do. I'm still expecting Durant somewhere else, but maybe

970
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 1: Budenholzer keeps him there. I don't know. I would say

971
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 1: if I were Durant, I would probably go with the

972
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,399
Speaker 1: Lakers because he is also in a spot where he's

973
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 1: played a ton of minutes and he's been in the

974
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: league forever, and if he's gonna win another win, he's

975
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: gonna win it right now. He's gonna win it over

976
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: the next couple of years. Lebron's not gonna be there

977
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: in three years. Davis, whatever's left of Anthony Davis, you're

978
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 1: getting the best of that right now. So you go

979
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: there right now and you go try to win next year.

980
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: That's that's kind of to me. That's about it.

981
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 3: I think that's a great fit for the Lakers if

982
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 3: they get Kevin Durant, and I don't know what it

983
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 3: would cost them to again, it would.

984
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 1: Cost them either, we would cost them a lot.

985
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 2: Who knows.

986
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 3: Who knows nowadays, maybe they just want to get rid

987
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 3: of that salary. But if you have to take some

988
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 3: in return, so it really doesn't make much of a difference.

989
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 2: I don't know how they would work it out.

990
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: I don't either. I'm just saying just from if I

991
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 1: were Kevin Durant, that's probably the kind of team I

992
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 1: would look for. I'm not looking for a team that

993
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 1: over the next handful of years has a bunch of

994
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 1: draft picks and they're gonna be able to build around

995
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: me and all this, because I know that you can't

996
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: build around me five years from now. I need to

997
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: be a key contributor on a team that is ready

998
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 1: to win right now, not a team that is on

999
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: the come up.

1000
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 3: Put him on the Lakers, and all of a sudden,

1001
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 3: they're championship caliber with him, Lebron and AD no doubt

1002
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 3: about that.

1003
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 2: That's for sure.

1004
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would, I would say that's true now and

1005
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: then you wonder if you have those guys, do you

1006
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,720
Speaker 1: have the situation Golden State had at one point where

1007
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 1: a lot of really talented dudes are willing to take

1008
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 1: the league minimum to come in and try to win

1009
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,879
Speaker 1: a championship. You saw that happen in Golden State, where

1010
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 1: they were able to get guys that you would have

1011
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,720
Speaker 1: never expected to take a deal to go to Golden

1012
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:20,919
Speaker 1: State to play for that little money just to win,

1013
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: like a David West or somebody like that. They would

1014
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: just pop in and play for like two million dollars

1015
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 1: or whatever the league minimum is, just because you know

1016
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 1: they might end up with a ring.

1017
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 3: I don't know if they're gonna take something like that.

1018
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 3: Maybe they were willing to take a little bit less.

1019
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 3: But anybody with any talent out there is not going

1020
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 3: to be playing for hope not yeah from two million

1021
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 3: dollars a year, So that's not going to happen.

1022
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 2: They maybe somebody.

1023
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 3: At the end of their career, but even then you're

1024
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 3: gonna get more money than that.

1025
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 2: So I don't see that happening, you know.

1026
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: So we're talking about guys towards the end of their career.

1027
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 1: Let's go talk about Minnesota and Denver here just a

1028
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:59,399
Speaker 1: little bit. So Denver's the defending champion. Jokic has now

1029
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 1: won his third MVP, much to Shaquille O'Neil's chagrin as

1030
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 1: that I knew that was like as soon as that happened,

1031
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 1: I was watching that live, Arnie, and I thought, this

1032
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 1: is why you can't lose inside the NBA. This is

1033
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: why TNT losing that show would be so catastrophic, because

1034
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 1: this just doesn't happen anywhere else, right, And I heard

1035
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 1: what Shannon Sharp said about how Shaq is jealous of

1036
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,479
Speaker 1: Da Kola Jokic and all this, because if you didn't

1037
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 1: see it, Shaq was upset and he said he believed

1038
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,919
Speaker 1: that Shakkil, just Alexander should have been the MVP. Right,

1039
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 1: And if you understand Shaquille O'Neill's perspective dating back to

1040
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 1: the time when he was playing, you would know that

1041
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 1: what Shannon Sharp is saying is nonsense. Now, maybe he

1042
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: is jealous, but it's not shown through this.

1043
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 3: It's funny you what you're okay with Shaquille O'Neil's saying

1044
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:59,399
Speaker 3: something like that to Jokic in an interview, But if

1045
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 3: you said it, you'd be ridiculed.

1046
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 2: You know that, don't you, of course?

1047
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 1: But I'm not Shaquille O'Neil.

1048
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 2: No, but you would be destroyed in the media, they'd say.

1049
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 3: Jason Martin Fox Sports Radio had the nerve to say

1050
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 3: to Jolkic he didn't think he was the MVP.

1051
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,919
Speaker 2: Well, what'd you have mine? We we would be roasting you.

1052
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: Well here's yeah, that's true. But here's the thing, right,

1053
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 1: So they have the discussion where they reveal who won

1054
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 1: it Barkley. Barkley gets the honors, and so he opens

1055
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 1: the car and he says, here's Nicole Jokic winning his

1056
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: third MVP, And immediately or he says, Shaquille and Neil

1057
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 1: your thoughts because he's going to ask all three of

1058
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: them their thoughts, right, And he goes to Shaq, and

1059
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 1: Shaq says, I won't be the first one to say

1060
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 1: I would have given it to SGA. I think he

1061
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 1: deserved it because I've been on that's fair end up

1062
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: being second and all this kind of stuff. So he

1063
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: does this, and they don't really have time to get

1064
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: to Kenny, but they talk a little bit to Barkman,

1065
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 1: not a lot, because they've got Yolkic coming on the air, right,

1066
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 1: so he comes on. They don't even go to commercial break.

1067
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:57,839
Speaker 1: They go right to Jokic and Shaq immediately says, hey,

1068
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 1: I want you to hear it from me first. All like,

1069
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:05,399
Speaker 1: no disrespect, but I think that shake Gilgas Alexander should

1070
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 1: have been the MVP. And I'm thinking to myself, like,

1071
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: there's no problem here. He's not trying to stir anything up.

1072
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 1: He's basically he just spo He just spent time on

1073
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 1: the air saying I would have gone with the other.

1074
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 2: You have to start.

1075
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: So he wants to go ahead and say, hey, this

1076
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Speaker 1: is what I just said before you hear it come

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Speaker 1: from somebody else.

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00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 2: Does he have to start with that?

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00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 3: Katie just said, hey, congratulations, he did say that. Okay,

1080
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 3: you don't have to write off the bad you know,

1081
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:30,800
Speaker 3: jump down the guy's don't say I don't think he

1082
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 3: deserved it though, you know what I mean, I give

1083
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:33,959
Speaker 3: it to somebody else.

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00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: Well, it's not like he didn't deserve it. He just

1085
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 1: felt like Gildas Alexander had had the season where he

1086
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 1: deserved it, not that Jokic had not done you know

1087
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 1: that he wasn't a deserving guy. He's like, you're outstanding

1088
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: and he gave him the props and he was just like,

1089
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 1: I want you to hear this from me because I

1090
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 1: just said it. And I was think, it's fine. But

1091
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 1: again back to what Shannon Sharp said, which was just wrong.

1092
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 1: I remember watching this show and I actually have it.

1093
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 1: I have it, guys. I have a digital file of

1094
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 1: it now because I liked it so much. I went

1095
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: and found it. At the time, they did show on

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00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 1: NBA TV and maybe they even ran it during an

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00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: All Star weekend. This was probably eight or nine years

1098
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: ago something like that. It was before I even think

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00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:17,720
Speaker 1: Shack had taken over a chair on inside the NBA

1100
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: when it was still just Ernie Kenny and Charles, but

1101
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: Shaq was starting to pop around and he had retired

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00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: a few years prior in all this, so they had

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00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 1: all these guys and included like Isaiah Thomas and Dennis

1104
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,399
Speaker 1: Scott and I think Steve Smith and like a lot

1105
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 1: of the guys that you've seen around NBA TV and

1106
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: TNT for a long time. And they're all sitting around

1107
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 1: and they're talking about the NBA Fifty, because they had

1108
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 1: invited the fifty best players in NBA history to the

1109
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 1: All Star Weekend and they they wore their jackets and

1110
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: all this. Of course Barkway is one of them, and

1111
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 1: so they're talking to him, and they're talking to Isaiah

1112
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 1: and all of these things. And then they start discussing

1113
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 1: who would be the next ten on the list and

1114
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 1: that becomes to the debate for the hour. And so

1115
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 1: they go through a bunch of guys and they list

1116
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: them and they talk about, well, who's on the and

1117
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 1: this is like early in Durant's career, but they're already

1118
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: talking about Durant and they're talking about Dwayne Wade and

1119
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 1: some of these guys. But they get to Steve Nash.

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00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 1: And when they talk about Steve Nash, Shaquille O'Neill goes off,

1121
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: He goes insane. He and he point blank says, he's

1122
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 1: just like, you know, that was a nice MVP that

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00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 1: they decided to give him. Wow and because he finished

1124
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: second to Steve Nash twice in the MVP voting. And Kenny,

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00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 1: I think it's Kenny, then tries to stand up for

1126
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 1: Steve Nash and he's just man, Nash had these amazing years,

1127
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 1: man data, all this kind of stuff. It's like he

1128
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 1: and Shaquille like he didn't get in his face, but

1129
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,720
Speaker 1: he leans up in his chair and he says something

1130
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: to the effect of over me, ain't no way, like

1131
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:59,240
Speaker 1: he's furious, he's still upset by this. He is still

1132
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:01,879
Speaker 1: It's it's like when Jordan had his Hall of Fame

1133
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 1: speech and couldn't help but go after everybody that has

1134
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 1: slighted him in any way during his career. We all

1135
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: know how incredible Shaquille O'Neal is, but he cannot take criticism.

1136
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 1: He's never been able to take that, and he's never

1137
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: gotten over being second to Steve Nash twice. If you listen. Yeah,

1138
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: so if you listen to his argument about Jokic, what

1139
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 1: he's saying is and he even says this, He says,

1140
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 1: I was second twice. He's like, I know what it's

1141
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: like to be second when you know you're the best.

1142
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 1: He's like, because then it goes blank slate. Then I

1143
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,839
Speaker 1: have to go work all this hard again to get

1144
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 1: to this spot when I did enough to win it.

1145
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 1: And he's just like, so, I know what SGA is

1146
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: going through right now, because I think he had an

1147
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: MVP season and he deserved it, but they go with

1148
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 1: another guy, and now he's got to start all over again. Well,

1149
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:55,240
Speaker 1: you can say he's going back to his own experience.

1150
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 3: Right right, And I understand that you can say the

1151
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 3: same thing for jokin If he didn't win it, you

1152
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 3: could say, well, you deserved it. You had another MVP

1153
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,280
Speaker 3: type season, but you already have one, which is probably

1154
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 3: the reason why you didn't get it. But he did

1155
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 3: get it. It's an individual award. I don't get too

1156
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 3: you know, bent out of shape about it. Anyway, It's

1157
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:16,240
Speaker 3: it's surprising to see that Shack has held a grudge.

1158
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: All these years still hasn't let it go.

1159
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 2: Wow, I am shocked.

1160
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 3: I mean, I would rather win championships, no doubt about it,

1161
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 3: than win an MVP.

1162
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 2: I think that's probably the.

1163
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 3: Only thing he didn't accomplish in his career, because he

1164
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,879
Speaker 3: won MVP of the playoffs, of the finals, I mean,

1165
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 3: but he never woned of this season. So I think

1166
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 3: that's probably one thing that sticks out with him for

1167
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 3: a long time, you know.

1168
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, he hasn't gotten over it. And even

1169
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:44,760
Speaker 1: as he's discussing the Jokich Sga thing, you can almost

1170
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 1: hear Jokic being replaced by Steve Nash and him replacing

1171
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 1: Sga in the discussion. Like, because I had watched this

1172
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 1: special so many times through the years, because I liked

1173
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 1: it so much. I knew he was saying because I

1174
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 1: saw him get very upset with his own colleagues in

1175
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:09,360
Speaker 1: the room just for suggesting that Steve Nash should be

1176
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 1: a part of a discussion for the ten best of

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00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 1: the New Century or whatever that would get added to

1178
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 1: the NBA fifty.

1179
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's get Steve Nash on the show and let's

1180
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 3: see them debate a little bit. That would be That

1181
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 3: would be musty TV. By the way, do you think

1182
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 3: the show's gonna go away?

1183
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 1: Now?

1184
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 3: What's gonna happen with them if they don't get the

1185
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 3: NBA rights.

1186
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,399
Speaker 1: I don't understand what Warner is doing in general, What

1187
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 1: Warner Brothers Discovery is doing in general.

1188
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 2: Is aslov like.

1189
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: And I mean in everything that Warner Brothers is touching

1190
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 1: right now, they seem to be doing things that are

1191
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 1: tanking themselves. I don't really understand, like they're they're undercutting this.

1192
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:48,840
Speaker 1: They don't want to pay as much, but they still

1193
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: value the NBA product. I saw somebody say, what does

1194
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,760
Speaker 1: anybody watch on TNT outside of the NBA?

1195
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 2: Right?

1196
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: And I mean I know that they they had their

1197
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 1: shows from time to time, you know, leverage. It's been

1198
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 1: a while, and of course they had some other stuff

1199
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 1: since then, but a lot of it was kind of

1200
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 1: held up by being advertised in the NBA. They've got

1201
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 1: Holy Wrestling now, which I does fairly well from a

1202
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 1: cable standpoint, but even that's kind of flatlined a little bit,

1203
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 1: and maybe plateaued and marche the last year. Yeah, and

1204
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 1: they've got March Madness, but that's not gonna be theirs

1205
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:26,359
Speaker 1: forever either. They got high playoffs and sure five people

1206
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 1: are watching that. You what do you want me to say? Like, no, yeah,

1207
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, if they leave, And Barkley even said

1208
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 1: when he says, like, you know, if Inside goes away,

1209
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:40,879
Speaker 1: if TNT loses it, does that mean you're a free agent?

1210
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 1: Barkley's first comment was yes.

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00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, he put it in his contract out if they

1212
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 3: lost the NBA, he would become a free agent. Ernie said,

1213
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 3: I guess this comes from Barkley that Ernie's going to

1214
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 3: stay and continues.

1215
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 2: So I don't know what's gonna happen with you.

1216
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 1: As long as Ernie's been with Turner, Like dating back

1217
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:03,240
Speaker 1: to Braves, coverage the NBA on TBS and the Atlanta

1218
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 1: Hawks and all of that kind of stuff, Like there's

1219
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:09,439
Speaker 1: just an Ernie. Ernie's a different guy. I think Ernie.

1220
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 1: I think Ernie's just I don't even Ernie somewhere else

1221
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 1: would even feel right, Like that would be real strange

1222
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 1: to watch.

1223
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 3: I don't know what they would do though, Yeah, well

1224
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 3: what they said they could do the same thing, could they.

1225
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 2: Nobody's gonna watch them if they don't have the games.

1226
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 1: No, I agree, But I mean he also loves baseball,

1227
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 1: and they've got their baseball package and they've got some

1228
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 1: other things he could get. They'd find a way to get.

1229
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 1: You find a way to get that guy as involved

1230
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 1: as he wants to be, exactly because there's nobody better

1231
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 1: than Ernie Johnson. But I don't think that Barkley and

1232
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 1: those guys are anywhere near as good without Ernie being

1233
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 1: that guy that kind of plays the referee in the

1234
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 1: middle and the one that keeps everything moving. A lot

1235
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 1: of times we forget how important that guy can be. Uh,

1236
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 1: and Ernie has been all time great at it for

1237
00:57:56,840 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 1: a long time. When we come back, we're gonna talk

1238
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 1: about this Lakers coaching thing. Yeah, who's taking this job.

1239
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 1: We've got some odds so we can give you those

1240
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 1: who should want this job. And do you look at

1241
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 1: this and say, are you even gonna do better than

1242
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 1: what you just had if you're about to bring in

1243
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 1: somebody with no coaching experience. We'll talk about all of

1244
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 1: that when we come back. It's Fox Sports Saturday here

1245
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio live from the Tireck dot com studios.

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00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Saturday is Welcome back. I'm Jason Martin. He's

1247
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 1: Arnie Spanier. Shortly after the show, podcast goes up. If

1248
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 1: you missed any part of the program, be sure to

1249
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 1: check out that podcast. Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever

1250
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 1: you get your podcasts. Be sure to also follow, rate

1251
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 1: and review. Again. Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you

1252
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 1: get your podcasts. You'll see this show and every other

1253
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 1: show posted right after we get off the air. And

1254
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 1: who doesn't want to hear Arnie say something twice?

1255
00:58:57,520 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 2: Like you not hear him?

1256
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:00,120
Speaker 1: And then you have the opportunity to go back. I

1257
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 1: can hear that again. I can't imagine why our subscriptions

1258
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 1: wouldn't take off after that.

1259
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 3: Rate me the highest, Rate me the highest. Everybody, go

1260
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 3: ahead and do that.

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00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 1: I don't think you can rate.

1262
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 2: You can't do that something. You just rate the feed, okay.

1263
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 1: Which is good for us because I mean if we

1264
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 1: were just like we're not just at your mercy like

1265
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 1: there's there are other people that are associated with it

1266
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:26,919
Speaker 1: as well.

1267
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 2: Gotcha.

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00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, So Anonobi out for Game four, Game five, h

1269
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 1: not looking good either there, Arenie.

1270
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 3: I don't think he's gonna come back to the rest

1271
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 3: of the series. I mean, when you have an injury

1272
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 3: like that, the hamstring, it's uh, it's something that's probably

1273
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 3: gonna take your weeks to go ahead and get over

1274
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 3: something like that. Hopefully he could come back for the

1275
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 3: Boston Series if the Knicks make it that far.

1276
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 2: When the Knicks make it that far.

1277
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 3: But that's that's a huge loss for the Knicks and

1278
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 3: Julius Randall boy, we could use him right now, how

1279
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 3: about that?

1280
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 2: Huh?

1281
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would probably help. Maybe you could get Charles Oakley.

1282
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not allowed. He's not coming back.

1283
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 1: Though, No, he's not. And so he had come out

1284
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 1: and said, you know, I guess they want me back,

1285
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 1: but they're gonna have Adulte's gonna have to apologize first

1286
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 1: because they've shown a lot of Stefan Marbury at MSG.

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Speaker 1: You saw a lot of Marbury there on the baseline.

1288
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 1: The trishprete Well has been there as well.

1289
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 2: Starks.

1290
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Starks has been there. And so Oakley said this,

1291
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 1: and then the Knicks, like MSG spokesperson came out and said,

1292
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 1: now what oak was saying is not true. He was

1293
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 1: not invited back.

1294
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 3: Wow, So they still they always hold the grudge. Also,

1295
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 3: do they pay for those seats or they give them

1296
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 3: away for free? Yeah?

1297
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1298
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 2: I don't you know, I get the field.

1299
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 3: I don't think John Starks is paying twenty five thousand

1300
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 3: or how much are those He's like one hundred thousand

1301
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 3: or something with.

1302
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 1: What with what Starks did for the Knicks. And I

1303
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 1: say this to somebody that'd absolutely hated him when he played,

1304
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 1: which is why I know he was good, right like,

1305
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:56,920
Speaker 1: because he irritated me because of how good he was,

1306
01:00:57,040 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 1: how clutch he was, and just how like he was

1307
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 1: a guy that definitely could needle you, for sure, But

1308
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 1: a lot of guys did. I mean, Reggie was that guy.

1309
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 1: And then of course you had multiple dudes for the

1310
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 1: heat and all this. But John Starks was so good

1311
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 1: for the Knicks right, he should never pay for anything

1312
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 1: in but I see him. His story is unreal like that.

1313
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 1: There should be like documentaries about John Starks and how

1314
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 1: he ended up in the NBA, don't.

1315
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 3: I don't see him because he didn't make as much

1316
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 3: money as the modern day guys. I can't see him

1317
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 3: forking over one hundred or two hundred thousand dollars for

1318
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 3: a front row seat like that.

1319
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 1: You know, No, I mean I hope he didn't pay

1320
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 1: a cent. No, I'm sure, I hope they just put

1321
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 1: him in the building. Like I feel like, it's good

1322
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 1: karma if you have that guy in the building.

1323
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 2: I'm sure they did. I'm sure.

1324
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 3: I'm sure they gave it to him for free. Like

1325
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 3: I said, those guys can't afford to becoming the game

1326
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 3: after gaming and paying that. Now, Spike Lee's a different story.

1327
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 3: He pays for Yeah, he pays for his tickets, no

1328
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 3: doubt about that.

1329
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 1: I mean, that's how they helped pay other salaries on

1330
01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 1: that team, is through what he pays. I'm not saying

1331
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 1: he's like, I'm not suggesting it's like anil here. I'm

1332
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 1: just saying, you know, he's he spends a lot of

1333
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 1: money on that organization. I'd actually be curious if they

1334
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 1: do actually comp him some seats at this point.

1335
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 2: Who's Spike.

1336
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, if he's actually paying everything, he's paid it.

1337
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 2: I don't think he gets wrong with Dolan.

1338
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 3: I've heard him tell some stories about that. Yeah, I

1339
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 3: don't think he gets wrong with Dolan at all.

1340
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 1: So odds you sent this to me. Odds for the

1341
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 1: next Lakers head coaches from bet online. Okay, Kenny Atkinson

1342
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 1: is plus one hundred.

1343
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 2: He's the assistant up in Golden State.

1344
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he was. He was the one with.

1345
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:48,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, assistant, he was a head coach, hasn't been head

1346
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:49,919
Speaker 3: coaching four years though.

1347
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 1: He was the one that they had to and you know,

1348
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:56,760
Speaker 1: jettison out of there to get Steve nash in. Much

1349
01:02:56,800 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 1: to Quille O'Neil's chagrine, JJ Reddick plus one fifty.

1350
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 2: Second favorite to go ahead and get it. It's truly Bobby.

1351
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 1: He's moving up.

1352
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 2: Quickly up the ranks there.

1353
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 1: And I wonder I said this last week already with

1354
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 1: no disrespect intended towards JJ Reddick here. Yeah, why And

1355
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 1: I mean I know why, Like at least I feel

1356
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 1: like I know why because I read an article with

1357
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 1: The Athletic about a month ago that was just drooling

1358
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 1: over this brand new podcast that's taken the world by

1359
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 1: storm with Lebron James and JJ Reddick breaking down basketball

1360
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 1: the way Peyton Manning and Eli Kobe Bryant did. Ok

1361
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 1: fre ESPN The Detail Show and just odd like listening

1362
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 1: to these guys break this place down and all this

1363
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 1: kind of stuff, and it's just like, oh, okay, so

1364
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 1: him and Lebron are tight. They're doing this podcast together.

1365
01:03:57,240 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 1: Of course he's near the top of the list exactly.

1366
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 3: I mean, that's again, it's what is going to appease Lebron,

1367
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 3: and that's going to peace Lebron. Even the third favorites

1368
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 3: Tyron Lou So you know, it's it's what you know,

1369
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 3: how can we make you happy, Lebron. That's what's going

1370
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 3: on here. I didn't know the Lakers were a starter job.

1371
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 3: So if JJ Reddick gets the job, well he just

1372
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 3: starter homes. And I just didn't know that the La

1373
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 3: Lakers were a starter job nowadays for somebody like JJ Reddick,

1374
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 3: not that he can't do a good job, but if

1375
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:30,040
Speaker 3: they hired JJ Reddick, that means they really made Lebron

1376
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 3: thatad coach.

1377
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, look, nobody knew Steve Kerr was going

1378
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 1: to be that good, right, No one? I mean, and

1379
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 1: I mean this goes down the list. I mean, sel

1380
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 1: Jacks coach in their first job. You never know that

1381
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:43,960
Speaker 1: they're going to be what they turn out to be.

1382
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 1: Greg Popovich, Bill Belichick was bad early in his career.

1383
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's a lot of rest.

1384
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 2: Easy on Popovich, Please easy on that. That's a sore

1385
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 2: subject with me.

1386
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 1: Why is that a sore subject with you?

1387
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 2: Well, notice how he didn't win.

1388
01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 3: He was wasn't the coach, and then he said, oh

1389
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 3: we're getting Duncan and Robinson, I'm gonna come back.

1390
01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:04,960
Speaker 2: I'm going to coach. And then all of a sudden

1391
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:05,960
Speaker 2: he started to win again.

1392
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:09,959
Speaker 1: So he's actually but he actually stuck there after Kawhi left.

1393
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 1: He's been there through these lean years and now he's

1394
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 1: got the rookie of the Year on his team. It's

1395
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 1: kind of come back full circle for him. But you're right, yeah,

1396
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 1: that's true. You know, so could Redick be a good coach?

1397
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 1: I mean he was also like way up in the

1398
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:28,479
Speaker 1: running for the Charlotte job. You know, of course played

1399
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 1: at Duke and everything else. It didn't end up getting it.

1400
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:34,920
Speaker 1: But so maybe he is a name. I'm not suggesting

1401
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 1: he couldn't coach, it's just the fact that he would

1402
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 1: be that high on the list for the Lakers didn't.

1403
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just get finished with a guy that had

1404
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:45,520
Speaker 1: no head coaching experience, that was a player in the

1405
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 1: league and it didn't work. This guy's not even been

1406
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 1: on a bench like this is straight out of the booth.

1407
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 1: We've got to hire this guy, or not really even

1408
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 1: to the booth, just the podcast scene and the first

1409
01:05:57,720 --> 01:05:58,320
Speaker 1: take desk.

1410
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 3: Well, as you said, in case people don't know, he

1411
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 3: does a podcast with Lebron, so him and Lebron are

1412
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:04,440
Speaker 3: very close.

1413
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:06,920
Speaker 2: Obviously Lebron likes him. That's the narrative.

1414
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 3: Lebron is pushing to get JJ Reddick obviously and telling

1415
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 3: Genie bust that's who he wants. Genie is probably gonna

1416
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:16,600
Speaker 3: have to decide. It's probably gonna have to be jj Reddick.

1417
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 3: I don't see any other choice around it. She's got

1418
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 3: to appease Lebron and that's the only way to do

1419
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 3: it right now.

1420
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 1: Other names David Adelman, Chris Quinn, Phil Handy, Sam Cassell

1421
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 1: at plus twenty two hundred. Terry Stotts plus twenty five hundred.

1422
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 1: It's been like, Dan Tony, can we please stop? Plus

1423
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:41,520
Speaker 1: thirty three hundred. Canadan, Yeah, exactly. Mark Jackson plus thirty

1424
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 1: three hundred.

1425
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 2: Why hasn't he gotten the job again?

1426
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 1: That's a good question. Dave Jeger also plus thirty three hundred.

1427
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 1: Jerry Stackows fresh off and absolute disaster at Vanderbilt. I

1428
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:55,240
Speaker 1: just couldn't have gone worse. I live in Nashville. I

1429
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 1: talk to people that are close to that program even now,

1430
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:01,680
Speaker 1: who know the ins and out, and they basically like

1431
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 1: the stuff that they said about stack House. He's definitely

1432
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:06,960
Speaker 1: more built for the NBA because he had no interest

1433
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 1: in recruiting, right, had no interest whatsoever in doing the

1434
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 1: work that goes into being a college basketball coach. But

1435
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 1: he was good in the G League. So Stackhouse's name,

1436
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 1: and then Adrian Griffin fresh off getting fired because apparently

1437
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 1: if you if you coach for the Bucks and you

1438
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 1: got fired, then they might be interested in talking to you.

1439
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 3: And then I think Jawan Howard's after that. It cuts

1440
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 3: off after that, but Jawan Howard's after that, and I mean, geez,

1441
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:34,680
Speaker 3: how many candidates could there be. It seems like you

1442
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 3: have fifty out there. I think I'm gonna have to

1443
01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:41,360
Speaker 3: go with JJ Reddick if that's what Lebron wants. Now,

1444
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 3: if Lebron says, okay, I'm open to some other people,

1445
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 3: I gotta feeling Tyron Loom may get the job to do.

1446
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 1: I mean, if Lou, unless Lou tells him to stick

1447
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 1: it because of how it went last time, would just

1448
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 1: find a way to make sure that he was happy. Now,

1449
01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:58,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm not saying he would. I mean

1450
01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:01,320
Speaker 1: he played for that organization. Of course, some one championships there,

1451
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 1: so I mean he has love for them, but the

1452
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 1: way that that went last time out for him not

1453
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 1: end it up but sticking around and all that, like,

1454
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 1: maybe he would. Maybe there is some some mill will there.

1455
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 1: But in terms of yeah, you look at the list,

1456
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 1: absolutely ty lewis the guy like, if you have the opportunity,

1457
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:21,360
Speaker 1: that's that's there's your answer. I don't I don't think

1458
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 1: there's any question about that. Does he want it? And

1459
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:25,680
Speaker 1: how many of these guys do want it that are

1460
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:28,479
Speaker 1: on this list? These guys are are the betting favorites,

1461
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:30,200
Speaker 1: But are all these guys gonna take it?

1462
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 3: The stress that comes with that job. It's you know,

1463
01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:38,040
Speaker 3: you're gonna get the blame. Of course you're gonna get

1464
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 3: the blame, and you're not gonna get the credit. If

1465
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:43,760
Speaker 3: it goes well, it's because of we know who. If

1466
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 3: it goes poorly, it's definitely not because of him, And

1467
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 3: it's all because of you. And you're gonna be paid

1468
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:49,639
Speaker 3: a little bit less than the other head coaches out there.

1469
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:51,680
Speaker 3: Gd Buzz doesn't have the most money. She's not one

1470
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:53,679
Speaker 3: of the richer owners in the NBA.

1471
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:57,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's there's some problems there. Yeah, you're

1472
01:08:57,360 --> 01:08:58,760
Speaker 2: looking at about what Let go to Kevin.

1473
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:01,559
Speaker 1: Let's go to Kevin Wire a little later than usual though,

1474
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 1: and then just catch up on what's happened this evening

1475
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:06,880
Speaker 1: in the world of sports find out. I think it

1476
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:08,799
Speaker 1: is all the baseball finally done, Kevin.

1477
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:09,040
Speaker 2: Here we go.

1478
01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 6: I was waiting for that anyway. Yeah, the Angels and Royals.

1479
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:13,040
Speaker 6: That was the last game, although that game had been

1480
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 6: over for a while in all but a formality, as

1481
01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:18,840
Speaker 6: they do win it ninety three against the Kansas City Royal.

1482
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 6: So that was the last of all the sports action

1483
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:24,559
Speaker 6: that was taking place in in North America. Tonight Athletics

1484
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 6: and Mariners. That was the other late game that has

1485
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:29,120
Speaker 6: gone final. Again not a not a close game at all,

1486
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 6: so this game was all but over early. Athletics beat

1487
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 6: the Mariners eight to one, Dodgers shout out the Padres five.

1488
01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 6: Nothing but the big games of the day NBA, NHL Playoffs.

1489
01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:41,720
Speaker 6: First in the NBA, the Celtics tik a two to

1490
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:44,920
Speaker 6: one lead in their series against the Cleveland Cavaliers, winning

1491
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 6: it by a final score of one to six two

1492
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:50,040
Speaker 6: ninety three. It was a team effort for Boston. Jason

1493
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:53,599
Speaker 6: Tatum had thirty three points, Jalen Brown had twenty eight,

1494
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 6: Drew Holliday at eighteen, Derek White had twelve. But for

1495
01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:58,799
Speaker 6: the Cavaliers it was the opposite. It was just Donovan

1496
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:03,840
Speaker 6: Mitchell in Evan Mobley who did most of the work

1497
01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 6: for Cleveland. Donovan Mitchell had thirty three points twelve to

1498
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:08,880
Speaker 6: twenty two shooting seven to twelve from beyond the three

1499
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:12,719
Speaker 6: point line. Mobley had seventeen points on seven to eleven shooting.

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01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 6: We had Darius Garland come on strong a little bit

1501
01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 6: late to end up with fifteen points, but it was

1502
01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:19,920
Speaker 6: too little, too late, as the Celtics to have a

1503
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:23,679
Speaker 6: two to one as series lead Mavericks over the Thunder

1504
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:25,719
Speaker 6: one oh five to one oh one. In Game three

1505
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:27,880
Speaker 6: of that series, it was the Big three to four,

1506
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:31,559
Speaker 6: Dallas getting it done a combined seventy one points by PJ. Washington,

1507
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:36,400
Speaker 6: Kyrie Irving, and Luka Doncic. Mavericks had in this series

1508
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:39,280
Speaker 6: two games to one. Shake guild Just Alexander, though gave

1509
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:42,919
Speaker 6: his best effort, coming up just short thirty one points,

1510
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 6: ten rebounds, six assists, also had himself five blocks, which

1511
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:48,880
Speaker 6: is the second most by a point guard in a

1512
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 6: single game in NBA history. Fred Van Vliet the only

1513
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:55,559
Speaker 6: guy who had six. He had it back on January

1514
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:58,400
Speaker 6: the twenty fourth, but otherwise, Shake gil Just Alexander tied

1515
01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:00,799
Speaker 6: with a few other guys for the second most blocks

1516
01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:04,479
Speaker 6: by point guard in an NBA game. Stanley Cup playoffs,

1517
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 6: both of those games have concluded as well. The Dallas

1518
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:10,280
Speaker 6: Stars an easy win against the Colorado Avalanchel, though it

1519
01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 6: took them a little while to get going. It was

1520
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:15,760
Speaker 6: one nothing in the first, two to one after the

1521
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:18,360
Speaker 6: second period, and then the Dallas Stars piling it on

1522
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 6: to the third to win it by three goals. The

1523
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:23,760
Speaker 6: Hurricane standing off elimination against the New York Rangers. As

1524
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 6: Carolina wins it for to three. It is now a

1525
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 6: three to one series lead for New York.

1526
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:32,519
Speaker 1: Back you guys, Thank you, Kevin. We are in the

1527
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 1: Tyrock dot Com studios, Jason Martin Ardi spani you're here

1528
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 1: with you. So, I guess so we've talked the Lakers

1529
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:44,000
Speaker 1: thing to death now right we I don't know that

1530
01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:46,640
Speaker 1: we have quite discussed the Tea Wolves as much as

1531
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 1: we probably should have. By this point. We were going

1532
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:52,160
Speaker 1: to talk about them, we got derailed, as often happens

1533
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 1: when you start talking about the NBA, that's where you

1534
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:55,599
Speaker 1: end up going into the Lakers. There. Can I give

1535
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 1: you a little bit of it, there's still a storyline.

1536
01:11:57,160 --> 01:11:59,480
Speaker 3: Maybe me give you a little bit of advice to you.

1537
01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:02,160
Speaker 3: You know, our boss is a big Minnesota fan, right.

1538
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:04,439
Speaker 3: He is so happy right now. If you ever wanted

1539
01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 3: to get a raise, I would ask for it right now.

1540
01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:10,000
Speaker 3: He's given raises to everybody, extra vacation time.

1541
01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:12,800
Speaker 1: He is such a good mood. Yeah, just just a

1542
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:15,880
Speaker 1: question for you, are Yeah when you say if you've

1543
01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:18,840
Speaker 1: ever wanted to get a raise? Yeah, is there any

1544
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 1: point in time that you know, which any human being

1545
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:26,120
Speaker 1: that is paid for a living would not want a raise. Well,

1546
01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:28,000
Speaker 1: now's a good time because he's in a good mood.

1547
01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:28,800
Speaker 2: I can tell you that.

1548
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:31,640
Speaker 3: I'm sure because it's been so long since any of

1549
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:33,639
Speaker 3: his teams have gotten out of the first round.

1550
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:35,559
Speaker 2: It must have been a horrible run.

1551
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:37,840
Speaker 3: I mean, he's that's why he's always been, you know,

1552
01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 3: yelling at me all the time.

1553
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 2: But that's beside the point. He has to be just

1554
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:44,160
Speaker 2: happy as could be because of what's going on. You know.

1555
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:48,280
Speaker 1: Well, now that you've talked, I think we need to

1556
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:50,000
Speaker 1: go to break. So now we're not going to get

1557
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 1: to talk about him. So there was your Tea Wolves segment.

1558
01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:56,920
Speaker 1: Sorry about the bosses. Now, well there goes the race

1559
01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:00,120
Speaker 1: right there. No, we we can talk about it on

1560
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:02,519
Speaker 1: the other side, although I know we were planning to

1561
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:05,599
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about Caitlin Clark and her home

1562
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:10,040
Speaker 1: debut and having to pay to see it for some

1563
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:14,439
Speaker 1: reason on the WNBA streaming package, and also sort of

1564
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:17,040
Speaker 1: the whole weirdness with Greg Doyle. So what are we doing.

1565
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 1: Do we want to talk about the t Wolves or

1566
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 1: do we want to save that for the next hour

1567
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:21,800
Speaker 1: and still talk about Kaitlin Clark.

1568
01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 2: We could do Kaitlyn Clark. I was like talking about her.

1569
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 2: She's very intriguing.

1570
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:29,040
Speaker 1: Sorry there, uh, Boss, We'll get back to the t wolves.

1571
01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 1: We've still got another hour to go. We will talk

1572
01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 1: Kaitlyn Clark on the other side, along with Arty Spaniel.

1573
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:38,000
Speaker 1: Jason Martin here, Fox Sports Radio, Tyrack dot Com Studios,

1574
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:43,679
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Saturdays, Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back in. He's

1575
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:45,760
Speaker 1: Ernie Spaniard. I'm Jason Martin. You can find him on

1576
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:49,799
Speaker 1: x at Stinking Genius One. I'm at jmur Radio. Happy

1577
01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 1: Mother's Day to those listening, and if you forgot might

1578
01:13:56,200 --> 01:14:00,880
Speaker 1: want to wake up early, just come back with something

1579
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:02,960
Speaker 1: and say that you had something planned but you had

1580
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 1: to go out early to pick it up and certainly

1581
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 1: didn't just go grab it at the nearby grocery store.

1582
01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:10,639
Speaker 2: And there I go.

1583
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:11,800
Speaker 4: That's it.

1584
01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:14,240
Speaker 1: Come back in with like a cake that says happy

1585
01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:17,759
Speaker 1: graduation or something like that, because all the Mother's daymens

1586
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:20,280
Speaker 1: are gone and you're buying a premade cake at this point.

1587
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:27,519
Speaker 1: All right, so we're gonna talk Kaitlyn Clark here. Boss.

1588
01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:29,679
Speaker 1: We will talk to wolves in the third Yes, of course,

1589
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:32,559
Speaker 1: I promise it will happen. So Caitlin Clark had her

1590
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:36,720
Speaker 1: home debut, scored what twelve points I think it was,

1591
01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:40,639
Speaker 1: and was excited about it. And I think they had

1592
01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:42,840
Speaker 1: thirteen thousand people show up for the game.

1593
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:46,000
Speaker 2: Amazing, But if.

1594
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:50,479
Speaker 1: You did not have WNBA League Pass, you could not

1595
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:56,439
Speaker 1: see it. So Tony Cornis went crazy on this and

1596
01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:58,559
Speaker 1: he was just like, you have to find a way

1597
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:02,720
Speaker 1: to make that available for free. TK is dead right

1598
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:05,280
Speaker 1: on this ORNI like, there's there's not really another take

1599
01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:06,360
Speaker 1: to have it is.

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01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:09,960
Speaker 8: But it was a preseason game, though, practice. Who cares,

1601
01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:14,559
Speaker 8: it's malpractice, right right? Everyone is interested in watching this

1602
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:18,360
Speaker 8: one person do something right to see, even if it's curiosity,

1603
01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 8: even if they want to see her fail. Everybody wants

1604
01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:23,479
Speaker 8: to watch this one person do this thing on a

1605
01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:24,360
Speaker 8: basketball floor.

1606
01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:25,800
Speaker 1: I joined Lee.

1607
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 3: Means nothing right without her, and you want to build

1608
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:35,920
Speaker 3: from that, right right. I'm just gonna say I didn't.

1609
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:38,920
Speaker 3: I didn't obviously couldn't find the game, so I went

1610
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:41,040
Speaker 3: out of my way to get my phone look up

1611
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:43,680
Speaker 3: to see how many points she had. And I was

1612
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:46,640
Speaker 3: telling my wife a couple of weeks ago, when this

1613
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:48,120
Speaker 3: whole draft thing came down, I go, I want to

1614
01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:50,639
Speaker 3: buy an Indiana Fever t shirt, and I was going

1615
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:53,880
Speaker 3: through they were all very expensive, but I was going

1616
01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:56,679
Speaker 3: through it and wan the fine one. I'm I totally

1617
01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 3: got Caitlin Clark Fever. I I want to see what

1618
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:01,280
Speaker 3: she's gonna do. I was expecting more out of her,

1619
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:03,400
Speaker 3: to be honest with you, than the twelve points.

1620
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:04,719
Speaker 2: So we'll see how the season goes.

1621
01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:07,479
Speaker 1: I mean, her first preseason game, she had like I

1622
01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:09,840
Speaker 1: don't know if it was something like twenty one or something.

1623
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:10,719
Speaker 1: It was pretty decent.

1624
01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:11,719
Speaker 2: Uh.

1625
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:14,479
Speaker 1: And I know that because the night she played, I

1626
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 1: actually went out of my way five or six times

1627
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 1: to look at the box score. Didn't watch the game,

1628
01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:20,719
Speaker 1: but I've watched how she was doing because I was curious.

1629
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:22,880
Speaker 2: I was driving the Connecticut one.

1630
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:24,880
Speaker 3: I was thinking of driving the Connecticut to see her

1631
01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:27,600
Speaker 3: play the Sun. But the ticket prices are are like

1632
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:29,559
Speaker 3: two fifty or something like that, you know.

1633
01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:34,840
Speaker 1: And I actually did look at some jerseys, maybe pick

1634
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:37,879
Speaker 1: one up for the kids for Christmas, right my daughter's,

1635
01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:41,320
Speaker 1: but they you know, and i'd be even my wife

1636
01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:43,679
Speaker 1: made a good point, she said, you know the problem

1637
01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:45,640
Speaker 1: is they'll grow out of them right now, right And

1638
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:48,320
Speaker 1: she's probably I mean, she's not. She's certainly right about

1639
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 1: that children do grow. That's not a subjective point, that's

1640
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:55,439
Speaker 1: that's a fact. But I've never even considered that before, Ronie.

1641
01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 1: I've never considered looking a box score for the WNBA.

1642
01:16:58,400 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 2: No, not at all.

1643
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 1: All this kind of stuff you can hate on Caitlin Clark,

1644
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:05,280
Speaker 1: this Kaitlin Clark, that all you want, but you can't

1645
01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:08,120
Speaker 1: deny that it moves the needle. And if that's your league,

1646
01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:11,400
Speaker 1: if you're in charge of that league, if that is

1647
01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:14,040
Speaker 1: your account, and you can't find a way to make

1648
01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:18,600
Speaker 1: make it so people can watch that for free, to

1649
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:21,879
Speaker 1: help your league grow so that you can then hopefully

1650
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:26,080
Speaker 1: introduce them to other stars and other names and other

1651
01:17:26,120 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 1: things that you want to do, then I don't think

1652
01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:32,840
Speaker 1: you should have that job. Right. You have to find

1653
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:34,960
Speaker 1: a way to make that game available there. She had

1654
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 1: no other way to play, I understand.

1655
01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:39,040
Speaker 3: But the first thing I tell everybody else in the WNBA,

1656
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:41,600
Speaker 3: the first person that keeps saying why does she have

1657
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:44,240
Speaker 3: a shoe deal? And the other people that have been

1658
01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:47,400
Speaker 3: in the w NBA before her growing the thing the

1659
01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 3: league doesn't have a shoe deal. I don't want to

1660
01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:51,720
Speaker 3: hear that Bloni, even though one of the girls, what

1661
01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 3: was Wilson, I believe got a shoe deal.

1662
01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:57,360
Speaker 2: I forget who was. They've been working on that for.

1663
01:17:57,479 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 1: The other deal that came this week too, I mean

1664
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:01,400
Speaker 1: the right that other deals that I've noticed.

1665
01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:03,320
Speaker 3: Yeah so, but I mean, I don't want to hear

1666
01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:07,040
Speaker 3: that stuff because it really it's not about the popularity

1667
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:08,280
Speaker 3: of the WNBA.

1668
01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:10,639
Speaker 2: It's about the popularity of Caitlin Clark.

1669
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:14,559
Speaker 3: That's why they're getting all these extra viewerships and people

1670
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:17,200
Speaker 3: going to the game, and they better embrace it. I

1671
01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:20,000
Speaker 3: can't believe people are actually negative on her because of

1672
01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:21,360
Speaker 3: all the stuff that she's bringing in.

1673
01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:23,519
Speaker 1: You know, I knew it was going to happen. I

1674
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:26,800
Speaker 1: predicted this in advance, and I'm not no stradomis a

1675
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:28,920
Speaker 1: lot of people I would imagine felt the exact same

1676
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:31,040
Speaker 1: way I did. I knew the worm would turn, and

1677
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:34,040
Speaker 1: it's gonna be it's gonna be other players, and it's

1678
01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 1: gonna be people in the media. There's gonna be there's

1679
01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:40,040
Speaker 1: gonna be a narrative surrounding this, and you've already started

1680
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:41,640
Speaker 1: to see it emerge a little bit. But if you

1681
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:44,760
Speaker 1: are actually in the front office of the WNBA. If

1682
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:47,759
Speaker 1: you're trying to grow that league, there is no excuse

1683
01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:52,120
Speaker 1: why every dribble she takes is not available to as

1684
01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:54,920
Speaker 1: many people as humanly possible. Even if you can't get

1685
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:57,639
Speaker 1: it on a television network that night, which I write right,

1686
01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:00,640
Speaker 1: I don't know, right, you can certainly streaming on your

1687
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:03,639
Speaker 1: own website, like you can find a way to get

1688
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:05,680
Speaker 1: that done. I don't care even if it costs you

1689
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:07,960
Speaker 1: money to do it. You find a way to make

1690
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:09,400
Speaker 1: it so people can watch her play basket.

1691
01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:13,760
Speaker 3: You've got to go ahead and utilize her and her

1692
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:16,120
Speaker 3: popularity and get people to tune on in.

1693
01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:18,680
Speaker 2: That's what it's about. And they did not do a

1694
01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:20,240
Speaker 2: very good job of it right now.

1695
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:23,240
Speaker 1: No, they didn't, and they better maximize this while they

1696
01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 1: have the absolute prey, which of course they do. So

1697
01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:28,360
Speaker 1: the third hour of the program is coming up. We'll

1698
01:19:28,360 --> 01:19:30,080
Speaker 1: set the stage for some of the playoff games to

1699
01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:33,679
Speaker 1: come and yes we will talk t Wolves, Nuggets in depth,

1700
01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:36,000
Speaker 1: all of that in some NFL coming up next on Fox.

1701
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:41,880
Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. What's happened at folks?

1702
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:45,599
Speaker 1: We are live Ireck dot com Studios. By way, I

1703
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:49,040
Speaker 1: mean Arnie Spanier and Jason Martin, Aaron Tourez taken this

1704
01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:53,519
Speaker 1: week off. He'll be back with me a week from today.

1705
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:57,519
Speaker 1: Hopefully his wife is enjoying a Where's he in Vegas

1706
01:19:57,800 --> 01:20:00,360
Speaker 1: Mother's Day? I don't know where he is. I think

1707
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:02,040
Speaker 1: he said he was taking vacation.

1708
01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:04,439
Speaker 3: Because I know he goes to Vegas a lot a

1709
01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:06,720
Speaker 3: lot of our uh Vegas.

1710
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:08,000
Speaker 2: A lot of people that work in Fox Sports.

1711
01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:12,720
Speaker 3: One I saw on Twitter, like, our buddy Bill Krackenberger

1712
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:17,120
Speaker 3: is at the Rolling Stones concert in Vegas right now,

1713
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:18,120
Speaker 3: just rocking.

1714
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:20,760
Speaker 1: It just looks absolutely nuts out there.

1715
01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:23,840
Speaker 3: What a fun time Saturday night going to see the

1716
01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:25,000
Speaker 3: Rolling Stones in Vegas.

1717
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:25,680
Speaker 2: How fun is that?

1718
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:28,800
Speaker 1: Wow? Definitely better than hanging out with you.

1719
01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:35,640
Speaker 3: That he was sending videos back on Twitter and it

1720
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:38,320
Speaker 3: just looked like an absolute blast. And by the way,

1721
01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:39,640
Speaker 3: before we get in, I know you want to get

1722
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:40,680
Speaker 3: to the tim Wolves and all that.

1723
01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 2: I retweeted this out.

1724
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:46,080
Speaker 3: I hope you're rich, by the way, because somebody added

1725
01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:48,000
Speaker 3: up all the costs for you to watch just to

1726
01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:52,439
Speaker 3: watch the NFL next year, it's seventy two ninety nine

1727
01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:56,760
Speaker 3: for YouTube TV, eight ninety nine for Prime Video, five

1728
01:20:56,880 --> 01:21:00,320
Speaker 3: ninety nine for Peacock ten ninety nine for Yes the End,

1729
01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:03,200
Speaker 3: plus six ninety nine for Netflix, which comes out the

1730
01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:06,519
Speaker 3: five oho six throwing the Sunday ticket for three forty nine,

1731
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:09,960
Speaker 3: and you're looking at eight fifty five eighty six for

1732
01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:10,880
Speaker 3: everything out there.

1733
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:12,080
Speaker 2: Did I miss anything?

1734
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:15,720
Speaker 1: Wow? I do think your math was a little bit.

1735
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:19,240
Speaker 1: Your math got a little walky there. But the point

1736
01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:21,800
Speaker 1: is still the same. We are definitely coming to a

1737
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:26,560
Speaker 1: place where it's gonna require a bunch of different subscriptions

1738
01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:29,439
Speaker 1: in order to watch your sports. And it's not just

1739
01:21:29,479 --> 01:21:32,280
Speaker 1: gonna be the NFL, it's gonna be the NBA. We're

1740
01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:34,320
Speaker 1: already seeing there's gonna be a bidding war here, but

1741
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:36,519
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll see what the money ends up being.

1742
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:38,639
Speaker 1: But we know TNT doesn't want to pony up this

1743
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:41,960
Speaker 1: and Warner seems to be content to just go bankrupt.

1744
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:44,439
Speaker 1: At this point in time, it feels like with Max

1745
01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:46,880
Speaker 1: being not really working out the way that they thought

1746
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:49,840
Speaker 1: it would, Peacock has really not It's been a real

1747
01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:53,920
Speaker 1: negative apparently for Universal. So you've got all these different

1748
01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:56,160
Speaker 1: things and you're seeing the prices go up. How many

1749
01:21:56,200 --> 01:22:01,000
Speaker 1: emails are we getting now a month? One of the

1750
01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:04,920
Speaker 1: services that we subscribe to saying that they're about to

1751
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:08,559
Speaker 1: raise the price a dollar or two dollars. Here, they're

1752
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:10,880
Speaker 1: going to offer a tier that's lower, but they're going

1753
01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:13,639
Speaker 1: to jack up the higher tier price another five bucks

1754
01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:16,719
Speaker 1: and all this this is what, this is what's happening.

1755
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:20,400
Speaker 1: And we've we've hit this inflection point I think where

1756
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:25,599
Speaker 1: most people are now picking and choosing based on what's

1757
01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:28,360
Speaker 1: available to watch right now that I want to see,

1758
01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:31,200
Speaker 1: Like do I need Max all year long? Or do

1759
01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:34,040
Speaker 1: I get Max when the Game of Throne spinoff comes

1760
01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:36,200
Speaker 1: back and when the Penguin is there, And then when

1761
01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:38,599
Speaker 1: I've seen all that, did you get rid of it back?

1762
01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:38,880
Speaker 3: Right?

1763
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 1: Right? I see what just saying there is. That's that's

1764
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:44,599
Speaker 1: why the bet that Netflix has made, I don't care

1765
01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:47,840
Speaker 1: what it cost them. You get WWE. The difference is

1766
01:22:47,880 --> 01:22:51,000
Speaker 1: they don't have a season. It's fifty two weeks. If

1767
01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:53,640
Speaker 1: you're a fan of WWE programming, you've got to be

1768
01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:55,840
Speaker 1: with their with them all year and so they get

1769
01:22:56,040 --> 01:22:59,719
Speaker 1: raw every Monday, and that all of a sudden becomes

1770
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:02,320
Speaker 1: that becomes destination and it becomes the only place you

1771
01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:05,599
Speaker 1: can see it is having a constant Netflix account that's

1772
01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:09,759
Speaker 1: different than even a sixteen weeks, seventeen week plus the playoffs,

1773
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:12,799
Speaker 1: NFL season, or whatever the season is for whatever sports,

1774
01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 1: that one might actually pay off the rest of it.

1775
01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:19,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I think we're just getting to a place where,

1776
01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:21,760
Speaker 1: at least when I look at it, for me, I mean,

1777
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:24,320
Speaker 1: I know we do this for a living, but at

1778
01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:27,599
Speaker 1: the same time, you're going to have to actually prove

1779
01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:30,439
Speaker 1: to me it's worth spending money if I just don't

1780
01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:33,040
Speaker 1: have all the stuff anymore, because we don't have the

1781
01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:36,760
Speaker 1: time anymore to devote to all of this stuff, and

1782
01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:39,640
Speaker 1: with it being in seventeen different places. I mean, you

1783
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:41,800
Speaker 1: think about it like your father, if you're a little

1784
01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:45,120
Speaker 1: bit younger your grandfather, how did they navigate this? Oh geez,

1785
01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:47,200
Speaker 1: Maybe they're tech savvy, but most of them are not.

1786
01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:49,360
Speaker 1: And how do they find their sports?

1787
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:51,479
Speaker 3: It's tough enough for somebody like me to go ahead

1788
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:54,439
Speaker 3: navigate I keep I'm like I had the call up.

1789
01:23:54,439 --> 01:23:57,000
Speaker 3: I didn't even know if I had the red zone anymore.

1790
01:23:57,040 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 3: I was panicking a week before the season started. I

1791
01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:04,720
Speaker 3: got somebody on the phone and it turns out that

1792
01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:07,120
Speaker 3: I have it. I didn't even know why I had it.

1793
01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:11,120
Speaker 3: It's amazing, though, how many different channels. This is And

1794
01:24:11,160 --> 01:24:13,320
Speaker 3: by the way, that's not even including when we start

1795
01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:15,880
Speaker 3: selling the Super Bowl right sooner or later, we're gonna

1796
01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:17,000
Speaker 3: have to pay one hundred dollars.

1797
01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:19,599
Speaker 2: We'll have to pony that up to watch the Super Bowl.

1798
01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:20,760
Speaker 1: I think.

1799
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:23,280
Speaker 2: So some people think that's never going to happen.

1800
01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:24,080
Speaker 1: It is.

1801
01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:27,360
Speaker 3: Look, since people kind of stopped going to games because

1802
01:24:27,360 --> 01:24:30,519
Speaker 3: it was so expensive for ticket and parking, and we

1803
01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:33,240
Speaker 3: stay home now because we have these great TVs. Now,

1804
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:35,000
Speaker 3: they want the people that are staying home with the

1805
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:37,760
Speaker 3: great TVs the pony up with all these channels. And

1806
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:39,559
Speaker 3: we really don't have much of a choice if you

1807
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:42,200
Speaker 3: want to watch the NFL. But I got to assume

1808
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:45,920
Speaker 3: our average listener out there right now doesn't have every

1809
01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:48,559
Speaker 3: one of those channels, you know what I mean, They

1810
01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:52,320
Speaker 3: don't have five or six channels to get the whole NFL.

1811
01:24:52,360 --> 01:24:55,519
Speaker 3: And that's too bad because they're pricing the average person out.

1812
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:57,720
Speaker 3: It's getting crazy, they are.

1813
01:24:57,760 --> 01:24:59,200
Speaker 1: And of course the same thing is true if you

1814
01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:01,639
Speaker 1: want to go see it. I mean, just the parking

1815
01:25:01,640 --> 01:25:04,800
Speaker 1: alone keeps a lot of people away. It's insane going

1816
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:06,080
Speaker 1: to cost the park near the stadium.

1817
01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:11,840
Speaker 3: It's absolutely parking in Jerry's World for the Cowboys. It's crazy, yeah,

1818
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:15,280
Speaker 3: and it's not getting better. And you're right, it is

1819
01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:18,680
Speaker 3: pricing out and it's not really a good time for it.

1820
01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:20,439
Speaker 1: If you look at the state of the economy and

1821
01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:22,360
Speaker 1: the things that have gone up in price in the

1822
01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:25,960
Speaker 1: last couple of years, we're not in a place where

1823
01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:28,439
Speaker 1: a lot of people want to find extra income to

1824
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:30,840
Speaker 1: spend on the stuff that they've gotten used to their

1825
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:35,040
Speaker 1: entire lives being provided for them. Well, it's a big time,

1826
01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:37,800
Speaker 1: it's a big shift. I can't wait to see how

1827
01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:38,760
Speaker 1: it all shakes out.

1828
01:25:38,920 --> 01:25:40,960
Speaker 3: And now you've got to buy Netflix if you want

1829
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:43,439
Speaker 3: to get the day of the games on Christmas Day.

1830
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:46,240
Speaker 3: Allegedly that's is that the next thing up? Or do

1831
01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:49,320
Speaker 3: they announce that because supposedly Netflix is going to buy

1832
01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:53,120
Speaker 3: the two Christmas Day games on the on the NFL.

1833
01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:56,360
Speaker 1: So, I mean, at what point is at what point

1834
01:25:56,439 --> 01:26:00,680
Speaker 1: are people just going to say now you can keep it? Like,

1835
01:26:01,479 --> 01:26:06,599
Speaker 1: is having a couple of games on Christmas Day gonna

1836
01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:09,280
Speaker 1: be enough to get everybody that watches the NFL to

1837
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:10,960
Speaker 1: pony up the money. I don't want the game. I

1838
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:12,599
Speaker 1: think we're gonna get to a point where they're when

1839
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:14,040
Speaker 1: people are gonna actually say no.

1840
01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:16,640
Speaker 2: I mean, is it gonna be no offense against Jacksonville?

1841
01:26:16,720 --> 01:26:20,360
Speaker 3: Is it gonna be a game that you know Jacksonville Atlanta,

1842
01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:23,559
Speaker 3: or is it gonna be Dallas Cowboys in Kansas City.

1843
01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:25,840
Speaker 3: I mean, there's a big difference between those two if

1844
01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:27,160
Speaker 3: you want to pony up, and I.

1845
01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:29,800
Speaker 1: Mean I think the answer if you are trying to

1846
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:33,160
Speaker 1: make money is the latter, right. I mean, think about

1847
01:26:33,240 --> 01:26:35,400
Speaker 1: the game that was on Peacock. The playoff game was

1848
01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:37,240
Speaker 1: on Peacock as you had to have Peacock for this

1849
01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:40,360
Speaker 1: past year. Was Kansas City, right? And people were upset

1850
01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:44,160
Speaker 1: about that because how dare you do that to this

1851
01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:47,120
Speaker 1: Kansas City team with Mahomes and Kelsey and Taylor Swift

1852
01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:51,160
Speaker 1: and everything else. That's why they did it like that.

1853
01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:53,439
Speaker 1: The one that's going to be the most lucrative is

1854
01:26:53,439 --> 01:26:55,639
Speaker 1: the one they're gonna do because they don't care about

1855
01:26:55,640 --> 01:26:59,200
Speaker 1: making you happy. They care about separating as much from

1856
01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:01,879
Speaker 1: your wallet into theirs as humanly possible.

1857
01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:04,320
Speaker 3: That was the Kansas City Miami game, right, the playoff

1858
01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:05,200
Speaker 3: game was it not yet?

1859
01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:07,960
Speaker 1: I mean playing kill all of that stuff?

1860
01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:08,200
Speaker 2: Right?

1861
01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:11,759
Speaker 3: So playoff games now are you could not have gotten

1862
01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:13,120
Speaker 3: it unless you got what peacock.

1863
01:27:13,240 --> 01:27:14,840
Speaker 2: Is that what it was? Is there any games on

1864
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:17,360
Speaker 2: Apple TV or we've not got I don't even.

1865
01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:19,040
Speaker 1: Know any man they've got baseball right now, and I

1866
01:27:19,040 --> 01:27:21,439
Speaker 1: don't think they're looking at maybe I think it might

1867
01:27:21,479 --> 01:27:23,280
Speaker 1: have been them that was looking at the NBA, and

1868
01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:26,720
Speaker 1: I know they'd like to get on the NFL. I mean, eventually,

1869
01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:29,880
Speaker 1: it's just you're gonna have to have everything, and you're

1870
01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:31,799
Speaker 1: also gonna have to have a spreadsheet to find.

1871
01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:35,360
Speaker 3: Out yes, yes, you're gonna I have to know where

1872
01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:38,040
Speaker 3: to go to YouTube TV and Prime Video and Peacock

1873
01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:41,880
Speaker 3: and Netflix, and it's it's just gotten absolutely crazy. So

1874
01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:44,120
Speaker 3: that that's why it came up, because it looks like

1875
01:27:44,160 --> 01:27:46,840
Speaker 3: Netflix is gonna get those Christmas Day games. So that's

1876
01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:49,040
Speaker 3: just a little bit more of everybody out there to

1877
01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:52,200
Speaker 3: podion up for the games, which you're gonna have to do.

1878
01:27:52,320 --> 01:27:56,720
Speaker 1: Celtics win take home court back. This is look in

1879
01:27:56,760 --> 01:27:59,559
Speaker 1: the playoffs, they've been worse at home than on the

1880
01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:05,040
Speaker 1: road pretty consistently. They win pretty easily in Cleveland. Last night,

1881
01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:08,840
Speaker 1: Dallas with a big win at home against the number

1882
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:11,360
Speaker 1: one seed Oklahoma City. They now have a two to

1883
01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:13,120
Speaker 1: one lead as well. How do you look at those

1884
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:15,360
Speaker 1: two series right now? I don't think anybody's looking at

1885
01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:17,160
Speaker 1: the Calves as if they were a real threat to

1886
01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:20,000
Speaker 1: beat the Celtics the West. Even as a Thunder fan,

1887
01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:21,960
Speaker 1: I gotta say I was a little scared of going

1888
01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:25,000
Speaker 1: into the series just because of the potential of the

1889
01:28:25,040 --> 01:28:28,679
Speaker 1: superstar players, in particular for Dallas them being up to

1890
01:28:28,720 --> 01:28:31,599
Speaker 1: one against a young basketball team on a night win.

1891
01:28:32,040 --> 01:28:34,679
Speaker 1: SGA went for thirty one and had a great game,

1892
01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:37,919
Speaker 1: had five blocks in the game. I'm a little concerned

1893
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:38,759
Speaker 1: about that series.

1894
01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:41,800
Speaker 3: I'm wondering all games, all the series are two to

1895
01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:46,120
Speaker 3: one right now? Who needs to win game for the most?

1896
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:49,679
Speaker 3: Is it the Pacers or the next Nuggets or Wolves?

1897
01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:53,680
Speaker 3: Which team has to go ahead? Is it the Cavaliers

1898
01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:57,280
Speaker 3: that otherwise they're pretty much done If they get down

1899
01:28:57,360 --> 01:29:02,000
Speaker 3: three to one? Is it the Thunder? Thunder? I mean,

1900
01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:03,800
Speaker 3: can they can they go down three to on? Which

1901
01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:08,040
Speaker 3: team has to win the most for a game number four?

1902
01:29:08,160 --> 01:29:09,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think anybody can go down three

1903
01:29:09,840 --> 01:29:12,439
Speaker 1: to one and come back right right, I really don't.

1904
01:29:12,520 --> 01:29:16,320
Speaker 1: I think it's asking too much. But if if I

1905
01:29:16,360 --> 01:29:19,719
Speaker 1: had to try and rank it. I would probably say

1906
01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:24,080
Speaker 1: the Knicks need to go up three to one because

1907
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:27,479
Speaker 1: of the injury situation. I don't think they need to

1908
01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:30,720
Speaker 1: go to to with Ananobi you're not sure whether or

1909
01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:33,920
Speaker 1: not he can come back at all, and Brunson maybe

1910
01:29:33,960 --> 01:29:36,080
Speaker 1: needing a bit of a rest before the next series.

1911
01:29:36,760 --> 01:29:38,960
Speaker 2: Now, it's not the team I would have picked, not

1912
01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:40,360
Speaker 2: even closed, but.

1913
01:29:40,439 --> 01:29:42,040
Speaker 1: Well, I don't think it would be. I'm looking at

1914
01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:44,600
Speaker 1: from a different perspective though, right, Like I understand like

1915
01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:46,760
Speaker 1: if you're looking at it, I'm just looking at it

1916
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:52,320
Speaker 1: purely from where those guys find themselves from a health standpoint, right.

1917
01:29:52,520 --> 01:29:55,040
Speaker 1: I don't think they need to be in a prolonged

1918
01:29:55,080 --> 01:29:55,880
Speaker 1: series if they.

1919
01:29:55,800 --> 01:29:56,519
Speaker 2: Can not of it.

1920
01:29:56,600 --> 01:29:57,439
Speaker 1: Absolutely not.

1921
01:29:58,120 --> 01:30:00,479
Speaker 3: I totally agree with you there. I still think don't

1922
01:30:01,080 --> 01:30:03,240
Speaker 3: don't forget. Even though they won Game three, I still

1923
01:30:03,240 --> 01:30:05,760
Speaker 3: think it's the Denver Nuggets. They can't go down three

1924
01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:09,559
Speaker 3: to one. Look, they were down to nothing and they

1925
01:30:09,560 --> 01:30:13,439
Speaker 3: were playing in Minnesota. They lose that game series over, well,

1926
01:30:13,439 --> 01:30:15,760
Speaker 3: they came up with a big victory. Still, if they

1927
01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:18,000
Speaker 3: go down three to one, yes they go back to Denver,

1928
01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:20,960
Speaker 3: but you know it's gonna be tough considering Minnesota's already

1929
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:23,519
Speaker 3: taken two from them in Denver. They're not gonna be

1930
01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:24,599
Speaker 3: afraid to play down there.

1931
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Speaker 1: No, I agree with you. If I was just trying

1932
01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:30,439
Speaker 1: to pick, I would I would say for sure. Then

1933
01:30:30,680 --> 01:30:33,360
Speaker 1: against that Minnesota team, the way that they are built,

1934
01:30:33,479 --> 01:30:35,920
Speaker 1: they are built. Sometimes there's just teams that are built

1935
01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:38,720
Speaker 1: to beat another team, right good. We started to see

1936
01:30:38,760 --> 01:30:40,519
Speaker 1: a lot of NBA teams that were being built to

1937
01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:43,360
Speaker 1: beat Golden State, right like they were being constructed to

1938
01:30:43,360 --> 01:30:46,040
Speaker 1: be able to score with Golden State, to be able

1939
01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:49,000
Speaker 1: to withstand their runs, to make threes, all that kind

1940
01:30:49,040 --> 01:30:52,280
Speaker 1: of thing. Well, the Nuggets were. They just had this

1941
01:30:52,360 --> 01:30:55,200
Speaker 1: kind of killer app fuel to them last year. And

1942
01:30:55,240 --> 01:30:57,240
Speaker 1: so you're starting to see the dynasty. You're seeing these

1943
01:30:57,280 --> 01:31:00,120
Speaker 1: guys going into their prime, and they're all there and

1944
01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:02,160
Speaker 1: they're all locked up for a good amount of time.

1945
01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:05,120
Speaker 1: But then you look at Minnesota and you recognize their

1946
01:31:05,360 --> 01:31:09,720
Speaker 1: size and how they can take Jokic out of his

1947
01:31:09,840 --> 01:31:11,719
Speaker 1: game in those first two games, and then you start

1948
01:31:11,760 --> 01:31:13,880
Speaker 1: to look at Edwards and you say, if he continues

1949
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:18,240
Speaker 1: along this pace like at two oh, I felt like, man,

1950
01:31:18,280 --> 01:31:19,840
Speaker 1: you know what, I think they've got their number. I

1951
01:31:19,880 --> 01:31:21,640
Speaker 1: just think they're built to beat them. I think, you know,

1952
01:31:21,720 --> 01:31:23,800
Speaker 1: it was a perfect team to match up with dev

1953
01:31:23,920 --> 01:31:24,760
Speaker 1: with Denver.

1954
01:31:24,720 --> 01:31:27,040
Speaker 3: I was surprised. I wasn't surprised that they could win

1955
01:31:27,160 --> 01:31:29,360
Speaker 3: one game in Denver. I was surprised that they took

1956
01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:32,240
Speaker 3: too in Denver. Yeah, but we really shouldn't because maybe

1957
01:31:32,280 --> 01:31:35,599
Speaker 3: the Lakers series tipped us off against something. Yes, they

1958
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:37,599
Speaker 3: had a couple of big shots Denver to win games,

1959
01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:39,519
Speaker 3: to win two games at the end of the game,

1960
01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:43,960
Speaker 3: and they walked away with a five game but gentlemen sweep.

1961
01:31:44,280 --> 01:31:48,280
Speaker 3: But overall they were not dominating over the Lakers. The

1962
01:31:48,360 --> 01:31:51,200
Speaker 3: Lakers that had the lead most of the every game.

1963
01:31:51,200 --> 01:31:55,280
Speaker 1: Well, notoriously it was slow starts, right, and that's the

1964
01:31:55,280 --> 01:31:58,880
Speaker 1: same thing that happened. And you even heard Mike Malone

1965
01:31:58,880 --> 01:32:00,920
Speaker 1: say it after game too. Got to stop doing this,

1966
01:32:01,120 --> 01:32:03,240
Speaker 1: like we can't. We can't expect to come back like

1967
01:32:03,320 --> 01:32:06,439
Speaker 1: this over and over again. I will give them credit though,

1968
01:32:06,439 --> 01:32:08,960
Speaker 1: And I heard Jokic say it after game three and

1969
01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:11,120
Speaker 1: you could see it watching. Of course, when you get

1970
01:32:11,240 --> 01:32:14,120
Speaker 1: Jamal Murray really showing up, that's going to help you out.

1971
01:32:14,120 --> 01:32:15,600
Speaker 1: When he starts to look a little bit more like

1972
01:32:15,680 --> 01:32:17,680
Speaker 1: himself and he's playing on one leg, it felt like

1973
01:32:17,720 --> 01:32:21,559
Speaker 1: in his first two games. But they they they made

1974
01:32:21,640 --> 01:32:26,280
Speaker 1: an adjustment, a critical adjustment to their pace of play. Namely,

1975
01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:29,439
Speaker 1: they were getting over half court in three seconds. They

1976
01:32:29,479 --> 01:32:31,760
Speaker 1: were taking the ball out from underneath the basket, and

1977
01:32:31,800 --> 01:32:34,799
Speaker 1: they were running. They were getting there and not letting

1978
01:32:35,280 --> 01:32:37,599
Speaker 1: Minnesota get set up to play half court. They had

1979
01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:40,960
Speaker 1: to speed up their pace. That was the only way

1980
01:32:41,200 --> 01:32:43,320
Speaker 1: that they were going to be able to counter what

1981
01:32:43,400 --> 01:32:45,639
Speaker 1: Minnesota was throwing at them. I give them a ton

1982
01:32:45,680 --> 01:32:50,240
Speaker 1: of credit for watching that, acknowledging it, and actually adjusting

1983
01:32:50,280 --> 01:32:52,960
Speaker 1: to it. That's why these seven game series can be

1984
01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:56,000
Speaker 1: so fascinating in such a chess match, because now, what

1985
01:32:56,080 --> 01:33:00,160
Speaker 1: is Minnesota going to have in game four, now that

1986
01:33:00,160 --> 01:33:02,880
Speaker 1: they've seen what the Nuggets are doing to counter their

1987
01:33:02,920 --> 01:33:05,759
Speaker 1: strengths from the first two games. Right, that's really interesting.

1988
01:33:05,800 --> 01:33:08,120
Speaker 1: But credit the Nuggets, and it shows why Malone's a

1989
01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:10,840
Speaker 1: good coach and why that team has been so good

1990
01:33:10,880 --> 01:33:14,120
Speaker 1: and so successful that they were able to diagnose their

1991
01:33:14,200 --> 01:33:15,680
Speaker 1: problem and fix.

1992
01:33:15,400 --> 01:33:16,880
Speaker 2: It absolutely one.

1993
01:33:17,600 --> 01:33:20,120
Speaker 3: And by the way, why are you going to do

1994
01:33:20,200 --> 01:33:23,120
Speaker 3: something stupid and then give me attitude?

1995
01:33:23,160 --> 01:33:24,599
Speaker 2: I'm talking about Jamal Murray.

1996
01:33:25,080 --> 01:33:27,160
Speaker 3: Why are you going to throw something on the court,

1997
01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:29,320
Speaker 3: and then when they go talk to you, you're gonna

1998
01:33:29,320 --> 01:33:32,080
Speaker 3: give them attitude. I'm getting a little sick and tired

1999
01:33:32,120 --> 01:33:36,360
Speaker 3: of the Lebron's, the Anthony Davis, uh, the Pat Beverly's,

2000
01:33:37,600 --> 01:33:42,160
Speaker 3: the Murray's, with the attitude when nobody's you know, nobody did.

2001
01:33:42,040 --> 01:33:45,400
Speaker 2: Anything to you. You know, that's why I love Josh Hart.

2002
01:33:45,439 --> 01:33:47,679
Speaker 3: You know, when something bad happens, he doesn't get the call,

2003
01:33:48,200 --> 01:33:52,200
Speaker 3: he stands up in front of everybody. It doesn't cry,

2004
01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:56,160
Speaker 3: doesn't complain, doesn't give an attitude, you know what I mean,

2005
01:33:56,479 --> 01:33:59,600
Speaker 3: just answers the question. I don't understand what the attitude

2006
01:33:59,680 --> 01:34:02,240
Speaker 3: was with with Murray over what he did with stupid

2007
01:34:02,280 --> 01:34:05,960
Speaker 3: anybody have a basketball question. I mean, that's just it's

2008
01:34:06,040 --> 01:34:07,360
Speaker 3: it's getting old, to be honest with you.

2009
01:34:07,360 --> 01:34:09,400
Speaker 2: I don't know why they're fight with the media so much.

2010
01:34:09,560 --> 01:34:13,280
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I think and there were there was

2011
01:34:13,320 --> 01:34:17,599
Speaker 1: at least one NBA executive I saw that was on

2012
01:34:17,720 --> 01:34:21,560
Speaker 1: record somewhere saying, uh, NBA is trying to protect his

2013
01:34:21,680 --> 01:34:23,840
Speaker 1: television ratings. Murray should have been suspended.

2014
01:34:23,880 --> 01:34:24,839
Speaker 2: He should have been suspended.

2015
01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:30,040
Speaker 3: Absolutely, he should have been You can't throw stuff on

2016
01:34:30,120 --> 01:34:31,240
Speaker 3: the court, No, you can't.

2017
01:34:31,520 --> 01:34:33,320
Speaker 2: If I stuff on the court. I would never be

2018
01:34:33,360 --> 01:34:34,040
Speaker 2: allowed back in the.

2019
01:34:34,040 --> 01:34:36,439
Speaker 1: Arena, That's right. I think it's because he didn't have

2020
01:34:36,439 --> 01:34:38,400
Speaker 1: a history, for one, But I also do think there

2021
01:34:38,520 --> 01:34:40,720
Speaker 1: might be something to what that executive is saying. But

2022
01:34:40,880 --> 01:34:44,080
Speaker 1: exactly the larger point I think is this because you

2023
01:34:44,160 --> 01:34:49,800
Speaker 1: mentioned multiple guys. You mentioned Lebron, you mentioned and Pat Beverly,

2024
01:34:49,880 --> 01:34:53,679
Speaker 1: we're talking about now, we're talking about Jamal Murray. All

2025
01:34:53,760 --> 01:34:59,599
Speaker 1: these guys feel entitled. And I'm not even saying that

2026
01:35:00,120 --> 01:35:04,200
Speaker 1: it's false entitlement. They feel entitled because their commissioner has

2027
01:35:04,280 --> 01:35:08,439
Speaker 1: no backbone. And I'm serious, like, I mean, really think

2028
01:35:08,479 --> 01:35:12,920
Speaker 1: about it. The NBA players can do whatever they want,

2029
01:35:13,360 --> 01:35:17,519
Speaker 1: right because the league is just gonna stand down, man.

2030
01:35:17,920 --> 01:35:20,160
Speaker 1: I mean, think about the Ja Morant situation when it

2031
01:35:20,160 --> 01:35:22,720
Speaker 1: first happened, and him going to Florida for like four

2032
01:35:22,800 --> 01:35:25,400
Speaker 1: days and then coming back after all that had gone down,

2033
01:35:26,120 --> 01:35:29,200
Speaker 1: and you know, you hope that you never see that again.

2034
01:35:29,560 --> 01:35:32,800
Speaker 1: But how many opportunities has Adam Silver had in the

2035
01:35:32,880 --> 01:35:36,160
Speaker 1: last couple of years to actually stand up and say

2036
01:35:36,200 --> 01:35:39,880
Speaker 1: you know what, no, and instead he has found a

2037
01:35:39,920 --> 01:35:43,800
Speaker 1: way to capitulate. And so now you've got entitled athletes

2038
01:35:44,280 --> 01:35:47,760
Speaker 1: that aren't even being told no by the guy that's

2039
01:35:47,800 --> 01:35:51,920
Speaker 1: in charge of their league. And you wonder why they're

2040
01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:53,719
Speaker 1: kind of petulant towards the media.

2041
01:35:53,800 --> 01:35:56,439
Speaker 3: Well, he works for the owners, and the owners kind

2042
01:35:56,439 --> 01:35:58,479
Speaker 3: of dictate what he's supposed to do, and they're like,

2043
01:35:58,560 --> 01:36:01,120
Speaker 3: you're you better not do any need to hurt our league.

2044
01:36:01,280 --> 01:36:05,160
Speaker 3: Better not be suspending players. We need television revenue, We

2045
01:36:05,200 --> 01:36:09,000
Speaker 3: need television ratings. You better not suspend Murray. If Lebron

2046
01:36:09,080 --> 01:36:11,920
Speaker 3: did something wrong, you better make sure he's playing, and

2047
01:36:11,960 --> 01:36:14,720
Speaker 3: it better be prime time, you know, all he has

2048
01:36:14,720 --> 01:36:15,920
Speaker 3: to answer to people like that.

2049
01:36:16,880 --> 01:36:19,880
Speaker 1: Look, if that had been contavious Calwell, Pope, he's.

2050
01:36:19,720 --> 01:36:26,040
Speaker 3: Probably for the rest of the playoffs, seriously, certainly for

2051
01:36:26,120 --> 01:36:26,880
Speaker 3: the next game.

2052
01:36:28,240 --> 01:36:30,840
Speaker 1: But again, I mean the leaks, the leaks. You feel

2053
01:36:31,000 --> 01:36:34,000
Speaker 1: if I was playing that league, I would try to

2054
01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:35,679
Speaker 1: get away with everything under the sun too.

2055
01:36:35,880 --> 01:36:39,120
Speaker 3: Mostly, I'm shocked Pat Beverley only got four games for

2056
01:36:39,240 --> 01:36:40,640
Speaker 3: what he did out there.

2057
01:36:40,640 --> 01:36:43,160
Speaker 1: Are you? I mean, I think he should have gotten more.

2058
01:36:44,080 --> 01:36:47,360
Speaker 1: You're right, I told him. You think the league was

2059
01:36:47,400 --> 01:36:49,000
Speaker 1: gonna come down hard on him.

2060
01:36:48,800 --> 01:36:49,880
Speaker 2: Because he did it twice?

2061
01:36:50,600 --> 01:36:54,519
Speaker 1: He how often has the league come down hard on anybody?

2062
01:36:54,560 --> 01:36:57,599
Speaker 1: I mean, look at Draymond Green just this past season

2063
01:36:57,600 --> 01:37:01,280
Speaker 1: while he's talking about the Knicks being a fluke. If

2064
01:37:01,360 --> 01:37:04,080
Speaker 1: David Stern had been the commissioner, you wouldn't have been

2065
01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:05,559
Speaker 1: playing right right.

2066
01:37:06,400 --> 01:37:08,360
Speaker 3: I thought it was gonna be a little bit worse

2067
01:37:08,400 --> 01:37:10,559
Speaker 3: because he threw the ball twice and he fired it

2068
01:37:10,960 --> 01:37:13,360
Speaker 3: at the fan and it was a woman. So I thought,

2069
01:37:13,360 --> 01:37:15,759
Speaker 3: they say, no, no, we can't have anything like that. Yet,

2070
01:37:15,920 --> 01:37:18,559
Speaker 3: you can't be attacking the fans. And the fan didn't

2071
01:37:18,560 --> 01:37:20,920
Speaker 3: say anything. No matter what he ever, he says, Pat

2072
01:37:20,960 --> 01:37:23,240
Speaker 3: Beebie never tells us what was said. He just said

2073
01:37:23,280 --> 01:37:26,360
Speaker 3: he was shocked. So I'm not going to speculate, but

2074
01:37:27,160 --> 01:37:29,679
Speaker 3: if there was something heard, we would have heard exactly

2075
01:37:29,720 --> 01:37:32,240
Speaker 3: what was said. I just think he lost his cool.

2076
01:37:32,280 --> 01:37:34,840
Speaker 3: I think they said what three to two one can't coon?

2077
01:37:35,240 --> 01:37:37,799
Speaker 3: And he got upset about it and lost his marbles

2078
01:37:38,200 --> 01:37:41,040
Speaker 3: and they went to can'tkuon right exactly.

2079
01:37:41,120 --> 01:37:50,479
Speaker 1: That's when we come back, Aunt and MJ. Why are

2080
01:37:50,479 --> 01:37:53,320
Speaker 1: we doing this? We'll talk about that next. It is

2081
01:37:53,360 --> 01:37:57,120
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Saturday here on Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back

2082
01:37:57,160 --> 01:38:00,719
Speaker 1: in Fox Sports Saturday Live for an entire dot Com

2083
01:38:00,800 --> 01:38:02,919
Speaker 1: studios Rolling Stones in Vegas.

2084
01:38:03,240 --> 01:38:05,640
Speaker 3: Oh, They're rocketed out there. Ill, not much tickets were

2085
01:38:05,720 --> 01:38:08,680
Speaker 3: for something like this. I can't believe Mick Jagger can

2086
01:38:08,760 --> 01:38:12,400
Speaker 3: still do this, you know, is this the last one?

2087
01:38:14,439 --> 01:38:16,479
Speaker 3: Got to be the last opportunity to It's got to

2088
01:38:16,479 --> 01:38:20,320
Speaker 3: be Tickets are probably I'm just guessing what three four,

2089
01:38:20,439 --> 01:38:21,960
Speaker 3: five hundred dollars or something to that.

2090
01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:22,760
Speaker 2: In fact, I don't know.

2091
01:38:22,880 --> 01:38:26,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, but I wouldn't be surprised.

2092
01:38:26,360 --> 01:38:29,040
Speaker 3: Well, the bill, Bill Krachenberger, who put it on Twitter,

2093
01:38:29,080 --> 01:38:32,200
Speaker 3: he must have good seats because he was like like

2094
01:38:32,400 --> 01:38:34,559
Speaker 3: seven rows away from the stage.

2095
01:38:34,560 --> 01:38:37,960
Speaker 1: It seemed like, I'm like, wow, look at Poff somewhere.

2096
01:38:39,880 --> 01:38:41,040
Speaker 2: It was unbelievable.

2097
01:38:41,240 --> 01:38:45,439
Speaker 1: How are you doing right now with your degeneracy with

2098
01:38:45,479 --> 01:38:46,040
Speaker 1: the gambling?

2099
01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:50,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, not bad. I'm more of a football guy. If

2100
01:38:50,240 --> 01:38:53,479
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do baseball, do run lines. What's bothering me

2101
01:38:53,560 --> 01:38:57,120
Speaker 3: is there's so many prop bets now that it's kind

2102
01:38:57,120 --> 01:38:59,120
Speaker 3: of taken away the fun of just betting the game,

2103
01:38:59,160 --> 01:39:01,880
Speaker 3: and I start thinking of a betting props and stuff

2104
01:39:01,920 --> 01:39:04,120
Speaker 3: like that, when really the game is what I like

2105
01:39:04,160 --> 01:39:04,880
Speaker 3: to bet the most.

2106
01:39:04,920 --> 01:39:09,240
Speaker 1: You know, how interested are you in a actual television

2107
01:39:09,280 --> 01:39:12,519
Speaker 1: series being developed about Otani's interpreter.

2108
01:39:13,120 --> 01:39:14,479
Speaker 3: I do want to see it. I want to see

2109
01:39:14,520 --> 01:39:16,240
Speaker 3: what's going on. I want to see what jail time

2110
01:39:16,280 --> 01:39:18,960
Speaker 3: he's going to get. How much time is he going

2111
01:39:19,000 --> 01:39:20,800
Speaker 3: to get. I want to see how he pulled it off,

2112
01:39:22,280 --> 01:39:24,800
Speaker 3: it went into it. I think he's already threw some

2113
01:39:24,840 --> 01:39:28,120
Speaker 3: people under the bus. How there was a local casino

2114
01:39:28,200 --> 01:39:30,240
Speaker 3: involved in to that effect in lass.

2115
01:39:30,439 --> 01:39:33,680
Speaker 1: But he's had like seventeen stories. That's the problem. Like

2116
01:39:33,720 --> 01:39:35,880
Speaker 1: he like his credibility was shot anyway.

2117
01:39:35,880 --> 01:39:38,840
Speaker 3: But it's only shot with us. Man, it's shot with

2118
01:39:38,920 --> 01:39:41,120
Speaker 3: us and shot with the media. Doesn't mean it has

2119
01:39:41,120 --> 01:39:44,400
Speaker 3: to be shot with the uh you know, uh, let's police,

2120
01:39:44,479 --> 01:39:46,160
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? They know when they're telling

2121
01:39:46,200 --> 01:39:48,559
Speaker 3: the truth. They just have to look into it. I

2122
01:39:48,560 --> 01:39:50,679
Speaker 3: don't think he's going to do more than five years.

2123
01:39:50,800 --> 01:39:52,719
Speaker 3: I don't think he's gonna do all that much.

2124
01:39:53,520 --> 01:39:55,480
Speaker 1: In five years. Who's the best player.

2125
01:39:55,200 --> 01:39:57,800
Speaker 2: In the NBA Anthony Edwards?

2126
01:39:57,920 --> 01:40:02,160
Speaker 1: Okay, is it cool if we actually watched that five

2127
01:40:02,240 --> 01:40:08,840
Speaker 1: years and don't invote Michael Jordan? Mean we have to

2128
01:40:08,840 --> 01:40:09,240
Speaker 1: do this.

2129
01:40:09,920 --> 01:40:11,600
Speaker 3: I mean, every time somebody is great, we got to

2130
01:40:11,600 --> 01:40:12,599
Speaker 3: compare him the Michael Jordan.

2131
01:40:12,680 --> 01:40:15,160
Speaker 1: Well, I'm not saying everybody it's always Michael Jordan, but

2132
01:40:15,200 --> 01:40:18,080
Speaker 1: it's always somebody. But in this case, I saw the

2133
01:40:18,080 --> 01:40:21,000
Speaker 1: Marcus Thompson articles like, yep, go ahead and say it.

2134
01:40:21,280 --> 01:40:24,240
Speaker 1: He looks like Michael Jordan. And we had the whole

2135
01:40:24,240 --> 01:40:26,720
Speaker 1: thing with the broadcasters that night that we're I don't

2136
01:40:26,720 --> 01:40:28,519
Speaker 1: want to say it, Jamal Crawford, but he's starting to

2137
01:40:28,560 --> 01:40:33,200
Speaker 1: remind me of somebody and all this, like, really, I

2138
01:40:33,640 --> 01:40:37,519
Speaker 1: understand that Anthony Edwards is as good as you say is, Like,

2139
01:40:37,560 --> 01:40:40,200
Speaker 1: I mean, you watch him and it's incredible. I love

2140
01:40:40,280 --> 01:40:41,800
Speaker 1: the fact that we're gonna have to watch this guy's

2141
01:40:41,920 --> 01:40:44,760
Speaker 1: entire career, right And by the way, I'm glad that

2142
01:40:44,800 --> 01:40:47,160
Speaker 1: he did an interview or he had done a sit

2143
01:40:47,200 --> 01:40:49,400
Speaker 1: down and he said people need to stop with these.

2144
01:40:49,320 --> 01:40:51,519
Speaker 2: Comparisons, and they should. He's absolutely right.

2145
01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:55,880
Speaker 3: He has no championships, so a little worry about winning

2146
01:40:55,880 --> 01:40:58,880
Speaker 3: won championship. Look, he's never gonna be Michael. I know,

2147
01:40:58,920 --> 01:41:00,800
Speaker 3: we want to compare him the Michael was. We miss

2148
01:41:00,880 --> 01:41:04,840
Speaker 3: Michael so much, and gosh, we want somebody with that

2149
01:41:04,880 --> 01:41:10,040
Speaker 3: competitiveness and that desire, and Anthony Edwards maybe have that

2150
01:41:10,080 --> 01:41:15,040
Speaker 3: competitive competitiveness and desire, but he'll never be another Michael Jordan.

2151
01:41:15,080 --> 01:41:17,799
Speaker 3: That's not a knock against them. They're just nobody's another

2152
01:41:18,120 --> 01:41:19,719
Speaker 3: Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant.

2153
01:41:19,880 --> 01:41:23,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, look Anthony Edwards in terms of where

2154
01:41:23,360 --> 01:41:25,240
Speaker 1: he is in his career and where Jordan was at

2155
01:41:25,240 --> 01:41:28,439
Speaker 1: this point in his career. If you want to try

2156
01:41:28,479 --> 01:41:30,240
Speaker 1: and split hairs and you want to get to it

2157
01:41:30,280 --> 01:41:34,040
Speaker 1: that way, then okay, yeah, because it took Jordan years

2158
01:41:34,240 --> 01:41:36,880
Speaker 1: to get past the Pistons and win his first championship and.

2159
01:41:36,880 --> 01:41:39,840
Speaker 2: Then he went on the run seven years or something

2160
01:41:39,840 --> 01:41:40,040
Speaker 2: like that.

2161
01:41:40,160 --> 01:41:43,240
Speaker 1: It took him a long time, it did. And in

2162
01:41:43,360 --> 01:41:47,240
Speaker 1: game dunking, nobody's better than Anthony Edwards. He makes the

2163
01:41:47,320 --> 01:41:51,200
Speaker 1: fallaway shot kind of that that little little backstep move

2164
01:41:51,280 --> 01:41:52,880
Speaker 1: that Jordan used to make. He does a lot of

2165
01:41:52,880 --> 01:41:56,760
Speaker 1: things that are Jordanish and so did Kobe and all this,

2166
01:41:56,920 --> 01:41:59,600
Speaker 1: but I just don't think it does him any favors.

2167
01:42:00,840 --> 01:42:03,479
Speaker 1: We could just enjoy how great he is. Well, it's

2168
01:42:03,520 --> 01:42:07,160
Speaker 1: not not immediately have to invoke anybody else. The same

2169
01:42:07,160 --> 01:42:10,280
Speaker 1: thing with Kayleb Williams being talked about with Patrick Mahomes,

2170
01:42:10,280 --> 01:42:11,519
Speaker 1: like just let the dude play.

2171
01:42:11,800 --> 01:42:13,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, but why are you going to bed though?

2172
01:42:13,840 --> 01:42:15,439
Speaker 3: Why are you so offended by it if we go

2173
01:42:15,479 --> 01:42:17,400
Speaker 3: ahead and compare him to do with Mahomes or a

2174
01:42:17,439 --> 01:42:18,320
Speaker 3: Michael Jordan.

2175
01:42:19,080 --> 01:42:22,160
Speaker 1: Saying I'm offended by it, right right, I'm just saying,

2176
01:42:22,200 --> 01:42:24,840
Speaker 1: there's no reason to put someone on that kind of

2177
01:42:24,880 --> 01:42:28,400
Speaker 1: a pedestal because all they can then, because if you

2178
01:42:28,479 --> 01:42:31,519
Speaker 1: say he's the next Michael Jordan or boy he's starting

2179
01:42:31,520 --> 01:42:33,800
Speaker 1: to look a lot like Jordan, then even if he

2180
01:42:33,840 --> 01:42:37,880
Speaker 1: goes and has a great career, he's still gonna fall

2181
01:42:37,920 --> 01:42:40,960
Speaker 1: short of that mark. The chances are, the chances are

2182
01:42:41,080 --> 01:42:44,960
Speaker 1: real small. He's gonna have Michael Jordan's career by real small,

2183
01:42:45,000 --> 01:42:49,160
Speaker 1: I mean real, real, real small. So that's setting him

2184
01:42:49,240 --> 01:42:51,880
Speaker 1: up to not live up to an expectation. So you're

2185
01:42:51,920 --> 01:42:54,040
Speaker 1: not letting him dictate his own career.

2186
01:42:54,120 --> 01:42:56,479
Speaker 3: Hey, so what, you're not living up to Michael Jordan.

2187
01:42:56,560 --> 01:42:58,920
Speaker 3: But is that going to keep you up at night?

2188
01:42:59,040 --> 01:42:59,439
Speaker 1: No way.

2189
01:42:59,560 --> 01:43:02,280
Speaker 3: I mean, he he knows what's going on here. That's

2190
01:43:02,320 --> 01:43:04,599
Speaker 3: no big deal. I don't think that that's a big

2191
01:43:04,640 --> 01:43:06,680
Speaker 3: thing to worry about, you know. I don't think it's

2192
01:43:06,720 --> 01:43:09,240
Speaker 3: taken away from his career or taken away from what

2193
01:43:09,280 --> 01:43:09,960
Speaker 3: he does on the court.

2194
01:43:10,160 --> 01:43:12,040
Speaker 1: I don't need to hear I don't need to hear

2195
01:43:12,120 --> 01:43:15,240
Speaker 1: about how he is the next this and the next that,

2196
01:43:15,520 --> 01:43:18,360
Speaker 1: because he's the first Anthony Edwards, and that's really good.

2197
01:43:19,040 --> 01:43:23,400
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean you can't. Yeah, it doesn't mean that

2198
01:43:24,160 --> 01:43:26,400
Speaker 1: he doesn't end up in a list with these legends.

2199
01:43:27,040 --> 01:43:30,240
Speaker 1: But let's let him have his own career before we

2200
01:43:30,320 --> 01:43:32,559
Speaker 1: even put that on him. And I think I think

2201
01:43:32,600 --> 01:43:36,200
Speaker 1: he's smart enough to actually the way he's talking about it,

2202
01:43:36,320 --> 01:43:38,840
Speaker 1: the way he's dismissed it, that's exactly right. And of

2203
01:43:38,840 --> 01:43:41,200
Speaker 1: course if everybody else wants to say that and he

2204
01:43:41,320 --> 01:43:43,559
Speaker 1: stays out of the fray and he just lets them talk,

2205
01:43:44,400 --> 01:43:46,600
Speaker 1: it's fine. I just kind of read it and it

2206
01:43:46,640 --> 01:43:49,120
Speaker 1: was just like, man, it's just lazy, Like just talk

2207
01:43:49,160 --> 01:43:52,360
Speaker 1: about what he does right without having to say he

2208
01:43:52,479 --> 01:43:54,200
Speaker 1: does it like this guy did it. It's like, no,

2209
01:43:54,400 --> 01:43:56,439
Speaker 1: just what does he do? Like talking about it? It

2210
01:43:56,479 --> 01:43:57,120
Speaker 1: doesn't matter.

2211
01:43:57,560 --> 01:43:59,760
Speaker 3: And by the way, have your hand on the dumb button.

2212
01:44:00,280 --> 01:44:01,760
Speaker 3: I'm not allowed to say this. I don't want to

2213
01:44:01,760 --> 01:44:05,240
Speaker 3: get in trouble, especially by the boss. But after the

2214
01:44:05,320 --> 01:44:08,880
Speaker 3: Edwards will get a lot more people watching him, and

2215
01:44:09,479 --> 01:44:12,320
Speaker 3: you know, come to fruition once he leaves Minnesota and

2216
01:44:12,400 --> 01:44:16,880
Speaker 3: joins the new York nexts No, No, that Hey, it's

2217
01:44:16,960 --> 01:44:19,400
Speaker 3: just a matter of time. We know that he'll he'll

2218
01:44:19,439 --> 01:44:21,439
Speaker 3: be with the New York Next and then then the

2219
01:44:21,520 --> 01:44:22,920
Speaker 3: championships will start coming.

2220
01:44:23,240 --> 01:44:26,599
Speaker 2: So we'll wait for that day. But is the boss

2221
01:44:26,640 --> 01:44:28,280
Speaker 2: gonna fire me for saying that? I don't know.

2222
01:44:28,360 --> 01:44:31,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I think the more interesting question is gonna

2223
01:44:31,160 --> 01:44:34,479
Speaker 1: be how long? And I've already seen it, so I

2224
01:44:34,520 --> 01:44:37,320
Speaker 1: know some people already say it, but I don't know

2225
01:44:37,360 --> 01:44:42,360
Speaker 1: that we're quite to that point. How long before his

2226
01:44:42,600 --> 01:44:44,439
Speaker 1: is the first name on the list and not Kevin

2227
01:44:44,479 --> 01:44:51,160
Speaker 1: Gartinett for that franchise, for being the best player to

2228
01:44:51,200 --> 01:44:51,840
Speaker 1: ever play there.

2229
01:44:52,520 --> 01:44:53,679
Speaker 2: Oh geez.

2230
01:44:55,040 --> 01:44:57,640
Speaker 3: Again, it has to come with championships though, right, he

2231
01:44:57,720 --> 01:45:00,800
Speaker 3: can't just go you can't go ahead and you know,

2232
01:45:00,960 --> 01:45:02,760
Speaker 3: do it until you get championships.

2233
01:45:02,800 --> 01:45:03,960
Speaker 1: But it won't.

2234
01:45:04,080 --> 01:45:07,840
Speaker 3: It will take probably about three four years before they,

2235
01:45:08,000 --> 01:45:10,240
Speaker 3: you know, before people say he's much better than Kevin

2236
01:45:10,280 --> 01:45:12,200
Speaker 3: Garnett and put him number one.

2237
01:45:12,200 --> 01:45:13,760
Speaker 2: I would I wouldn't say right around that.

2238
01:45:14,760 --> 01:45:17,400
Speaker 1: I mean, that's still very high praise considering how good

2239
01:45:17,439 --> 01:45:18,080
Speaker 1: Garnett was.

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01:45:18,360 --> 01:45:22,320
Speaker 3: Absolutely, you know, they never had anybody was there a

2241
01:45:22,360 --> 01:45:22,880
Speaker 3: long time.

2242
01:45:23,360 --> 01:45:24,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was there for a long time and didn't

2243
01:45:24,960 --> 01:45:28,519
Speaker 1: win very much because it was just it wasn't a

2244
01:45:28,560 --> 01:45:30,639
Speaker 1: franchise that was ready to win at that point in time,

2245
01:45:30,920 --> 01:45:32,320
Speaker 1: and so he had to go to Boston to get

2246
01:45:32,320 --> 01:45:36,639
Speaker 1: it done. If Edwards get one, you might already put

2247
01:45:36,680 --> 01:45:39,280
Speaker 1: him there. But they do have more around him, like

2248
01:45:39,320 --> 01:45:41,320
Speaker 1: I mean, you do look at I mean, Karl Anthony

2249
01:45:41,320 --> 01:45:43,920
Speaker 1: town is a pretty good basketball player, especially when he

2250
01:45:43,920 --> 01:45:46,120
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be the alpha, when when it can

2251
01:45:46,120 --> 01:45:48,559
Speaker 1: be Anthony Edwards. Karl Anthony Towns is a much better

2252
01:45:48,960 --> 01:45:50,720
Speaker 1: He's a much better second banana than he is.

2253
01:45:50,640 --> 01:45:53,439
Speaker 2: A front banana. Right, No, you're absolutely right about that.

2254
01:45:53,479 --> 01:45:56,320
Speaker 3: But can you mention can you figure jigg and Brunson

2255
01:45:56,400 --> 01:45:59,160
Speaker 3: and Anthony Edwards in the backcourt there?

2256
01:45:59,240 --> 01:46:01,759
Speaker 2: That's not too shat to fuel.

2257
01:46:01,640 --> 01:46:05,439
Speaker 1: That into existence? To get shut down. Let's let's give

2258
01:46:05,479 --> 01:46:08,840
Speaker 1: you a breather, retreat to your core. Let's go, let's

2259
01:46:08,880 --> 01:46:11,519
Speaker 1: go out to LA one more time. Let's bringing Kevin

2260
01:46:11,520 --> 01:46:13,559
Speaker 1: wired and find out what happened in sports last night.

2261
01:46:13,600 --> 01:46:17,240
Speaker 6: Kevin, Yeah, good amount of playoff action. On Saturday, Celtics

2262
01:46:17,280 --> 01:46:19,960
Speaker 6: Cavaliers game of three of that series. They were tied

2263
01:46:20,000 --> 01:46:23,080
Speaker 6: at one game apiece, but the Boston Celtics getting a

2264
01:46:23,120 --> 01:46:26,120
Speaker 6: complete team effort in this win against the Cavaliers one

2265
01:46:26,160 --> 01:46:28,679
Speaker 6: oh six ninety three. The final Jason Tatum had thirty

2266
01:46:28,680 --> 01:46:32,040
Speaker 6: three points, Jalen Brown had twenty eight, Drew Holiday at eighteen,

2267
01:46:32,120 --> 01:46:35,919
Speaker 6: Derek Whitewood twelve. But contrasts that to the Cleveland Cavaliers

2268
01:46:35,960 --> 01:46:38,920
Speaker 6: Evan Mobley had seventeen, Donno Mitchell had thirty three and

2269
01:46:39,000 --> 01:46:41,439
Speaker 6: outside of a late run by Darius Garland who finished

2270
01:46:41,479 --> 01:46:45,280
Speaker 6: with fifteen points, really not much other help that They

2271
01:46:45,400 --> 01:46:48,320
Speaker 6: got Donovan Mitchell seven to twelve from beyond the three

2272
01:46:48,360 --> 01:46:52,439
Speaker 6: point arc. The rest of the team just five of

2273
01:46:52,520 --> 01:46:56,799
Speaker 6: twenty seven, So a poor shooting night by the Cavaliers.

2274
01:46:56,840 --> 01:46:59,120
Speaker 6: They now find themselves in a hole. In this best

2275
01:46:59,120 --> 01:47:02,160
Speaker 6: of seventh series, the Mavericks over the Thunder one oh

2276
01:47:02,240 --> 01:47:04,240
Speaker 6: five to one oh one. It was a big performance

2277
01:47:04,320 --> 01:47:08,360
Speaker 6: by the Big three PJ. Washington, Kyrie Irving, Luca Datcich

2278
01:47:08,360 --> 01:47:12,160
Speaker 6: combining for seventy one points. Washington had twenty seven, Kyrie

2279
01:47:12,160 --> 01:47:15,080
Speaker 6: and Luca each with twenty two, Luca also with fifteen

2280
01:47:15,120 --> 01:47:18,880
Speaker 6: rebounds and five assists, and Shay Gilt just Alexander give

2281
01:47:18,920 --> 01:47:20,680
Speaker 6: him all the credit for laying it all out on

2282
01:47:20,720 --> 01:47:23,320
Speaker 6: the court. He had one of his better performances of

2283
01:47:23,360 --> 01:47:27,200
Speaker 6: the postseason. Thirty one points, ten rebounds, five blocks. That's

2284
01:47:27,240 --> 01:47:29,320
Speaker 6: the second most blocks in a single game by a

2285
01:47:29,400 --> 01:47:33,200
Speaker 6: point guard in NBA history. Only Fred van Fleet has

2286
01:47:33,240 --> 01:47:36,360
Speaker 6: had morey at six back in January against the Charlotte Hornets,

2287
01:47:36,360 --> 01:47:39,760
Speaker 6: but otherwise second four Shae Gill just Alexander, He's tied

2288
01:47:39,800 --> 01:47:42,280
Speaker 6: with a bunch of other guys with five assists in

2289
01:47:42,320 --> 01:47:45,040
Speaker 6: a game by a point guard. In the NHL Stanley

2290
01:47:45,040 --> 01:47:47,559
Speaker 6: Cup Playoffs, the Hurricanes over the Rangers four to three,

2291
01:47:47,560 --> 01:47:50,200
Speaker 6: so Carolina stays alive in that series, but they do

2292
01:47:50,320 --> 01:47:54,000
Speaker 6: still trail three games to one. The Stars beat the

2293
01:47:54,000 --> 01:47:56,720
Speaker 6: Avalanche for won two big goals by Dallas in that

2294
01:47:56,800 --> 01:47:59,599
Speaker 6: third period gives them the two to one lead over

2295
01:47:59,680 --> 01:48:03,240
Speaker 6: in that series. And a Major League Baseball everything has concluded,

2296
01:48:03,280 --> 01:48:05,519
Speaker 6: although all the late games, ane of them are really close,

2297
01:48:05,560 --> 01:48:08,200
Speaker 6: so those games all but over. Early on, the Athletics

2298
01:48:08,240 --> 01:48:11,080
Speaker 6: over the Mariners eight one, Angels beat the Royals ninety three,

2299
01:48:11,200 --> 01:48:14,160
Speaker 6: Dodgers shut out the Padres five nothing. Rockies over the

2300
01:48:14,240 --> 01:48:15,880
Speaker 6: Rangers eight to three.

2301
01:48:16,120 --> 01:48:19,680
Speaker 1: Back to you guys, all right, thanks, Kevin, appreciate you.

2302
01:48:20,080 --> 01:48:24,960
Speaker 1: That's that's the Dodgers have kind of righted the ship

2303
01:48:25,000 --> 01:48:25,479
Speaker 1: a little bit.

2304
01:48:25,680 --> 01:48:28,639
Speaker 3: Oh you think so, wow, Yeah, they've They've been awesome.

2305
01:48:28,800 --> 01:48:32,080
Speaker 3: Mookie bats is such an underrated superstar. I'm not even

2306
01:48:32,240 --> 01:48:36,760
Speaker 3: say underrated baseball player, just an underrated superstar. He's like

2307
01:48:36,880 --> 01:48:40,160
Speaker 3: one of the best in his sport and just does

2308
01:48:40,200 --> 01:48:42,599
Speaker 3: not get the recognition that other people do, like a

2309
01:48:42,720 --> 01:48:45,200
Speaker 3: Lebron or Mahomes or something like that.

2310
01:48:45,200 --> 01:48:47,360
Speaker 1: That was hard for me to admit, considering what they

2311
01:48:47,360 --> 01:48:51,840
Speaker 1: did to my braves last weekend, long long season. Acunya

2312
01:48:51,880 --> 01:48:53,320
Speaker 1: is not having a great year yet.

2313
01:48:53,320 --> 01:48:55,760
Speaker 3: But your braves almost had no hitter against by Mets today?

2314
01:48:55,800 --> 01:48:56,280
Speaker 2: How about that?

2315
01:48:56,640 --> 01:48:59,559
Speaker 1: Came very close? Still won the game though, JD.

2316
01:48:59,640 --> 01:49:02,320
Speaker 2: Martin the home mark. Yeah, they hit a home run

2317
01:49:02,320 --> 01:49:03,000
Speaker 2: in the ninth inning.

2318
01:49:03,479 --> 01:49:04,920
Speaker 1: How good are you guys going to be when Pete A.

2319
01:49:04,920 --> 01:49:06,440
Speaker 1: Lonso is not there anymore?

2320
01:49:06,280 --> 01:49:08,320
Speaker 3: We're not good now. So what difference does it make

2321
01:49:08,320 --> 01:49:10,880
Speaker 3: if he's there or not? So it doesn't make it

2322
01:49:10,880 --> 01:49:13,120
Speaker 3: every night. I thought Peter Wansa wasn't going to be

2323
01:49:13,160 --> 01:49:15,479
Speaker 3: on the team this year. I'm not so sure they're

2324
01:49:15,479 --> 01:49:16,960
Speaker 3: going to get rid of him. I know there's been

2325
01:49:17,000 --> 01:49:19,519
Speaker 3: so much talk about him, and you know the money

2326
01:49:19,560 --> 01:49:20,120
Speaker 3: that he makes.

2327
01:49:20,160 --> 01:49:22,880
Speaker 2: But uh, I mean, well, we'll have to wait and see.

2328
01:49:22,880 --> 01:49:24,920
Speaker 3: But I don't think they'll end up getting rid of

2329
01:49:24,960 --> 01:49:27,639
Speaker 3: him if they stay close to the you know, wild Card.

2330
01:49:27,439 --> 01:49:32,679
Speaker 1: Race something or nothing. Just completely changing gears. You're hearing

2331
01:49:32,800 --> 01:49:39,080
Speaker 1: rave stuff about Jane Daniels from Commanders workouts, and then

2332
01:49:39,479 --> 01:49:42,920
Speaker 1: jiraw Mao and New England said today or yesterday, Now

2333
01:49:43,400 --> 01:49:45,360
Speaker 1: you know Drake Mayre's there's a long way to go.

2334
01:49:45,439 --> 01:49:47,200
Speaker 1: There's a lot that he has to learn. But then

2335
01:49:47,240 --> 01:49:48,920
Speaker 1: a lot of the players are saying, man, he can

2336
01:49:49,000 --> 01:49:51,360
Speaker 1: really sling it and all these positives.

2337
01:49:51,400 --> 01:49:53,880
Speaker 2: Did you see the one on Pennick. Did you see

2338
01:49:53,880 --> 01:49:56,320
Speaker 2: the one on Penix or I don't know if you

2339
01:49:56,320 --> 01:49:58,240
Speaker 2: saw this on Twitter? Did you see that one where

2340
01:49:58,240 --> 01:49:58,960
Speaker 2: they said.

2341
01:49:58,760 --> 01:50:00,719
Speaker 1: He was no, I did not see the Pennis comment.

2342
01:50:00,880 --> 01:50:02,840
Speaker 3: I think they said he was firing the ball so

2343
01:50:03,040 --> 01:50:05,560
Speaker 3: fast that his receivers were dropping.

2344
01:50:05,240 --> 01:50:06,679
Speaker 2: It because it was coming in so hot.

2345
01:50:07,360 --> 01:50:10,160
Speaker 1: That was a problem. That was a problem in college too,

2346
01:50:11,200 --> 01:50:13,120
Speaker 1: Like that's that that's always been That was sort of

2347
01:50:13,120 --> 01:50:15,040
Speaker 1: a knock as he throws the ball almost too hard,

2348
01:50:15,280 --> 01:50:18,280
Speaker 1: right right, that's if that's legitimately what they're saying, that

2349
01:50:18,280 --> 01:50:20,400
Speaker 1: that's something that has been said about him in the past.

2350
01:50:20,479 --> 01:50:21,400
Speaker 2: I saw it on Twitter.

2351
01:50:21,680 --> 01:50:23,000
Speaker 3: I mean I saw it on Twitter, so I don't

2352
01:50:23,000 --> 01:50:26,840
Speaker 3: remember who put it out. It's got to be true, absolutely, no,

2353
01:50:26,880 --> 01:50:29,160
Speaker 3: I'm I take it with a grain of salt when

2354
01:50:29,200 --> 01:50:32,160
Speaker 3: people say that. It does concern me, though, When when

2355
01:50:32,160 --> 01:50:33,760
Speaker 3: a coach says, oh, he's got a lot of work

2356
01:50:33,800 --> 01:50:36,360
Speaker 3: to do, I'm like, oh, you know, maybe he's not

2357
01:50:36,439 --> 01:50:39,600
Speaker 3: ready to start or or something like that. Jaydon Daniels

2358
01:50:40,560 --> 01:50:42,559
Speaker 3: I like a lot too. I can't wait to see

2359
01:50:42,560 --> 01:50:44,320
Speaker 3: what he's going to put up there. I think he

2360
01:50:44,439 --> 01:50:46,880
Speaker 3: was a little underrated because of all the talk about

2361
01:50:47,080 --> 01:50:48,920
Speaker 3: cagleb Williams and how great he's going to be.

2362
01:50:49,840 --> 01:50:55,200
Speaker 1: How do we feel about the new concessions in Green Bay?

2363
01:50:56,040 --> 01:50:56,880
Speaker 2: What do you mean by that?

2364
01:50:57,600 --> 01:51:00,280
Speaker 1: The Packers what they're going to be what's gonna be

2365
01:51:00,280 --> 01:51:02,080
Speaker 1: available in their stadium?

2366
01:51:02,479 --> 01:51:02,639
Speaker 7: Oh?

2367
01:51:02,680 --> 01:51:05,320
Speaker 3: You mean now that it's because it's an open air stadium,

2368
01:51:05,520 --> 01:51:09,080
Speaker 3: they're allowed smoking now. Yeah, the Packer and Alabama Football

2369
01:51:09,080 --> 01:51:12,080
Speaker 3: has done the same thing where they're gonna allow what cigarettes?

2370
01:51:14,240 --> 01:51:16,080
Speaker 3: I don't have the story in for me, but what

2371
01:51:16,240 --> 01:51:19,519
Speaker 3: pre rolled synthetic marijuana or something like that.

2372
01:51:20,000 --> 01:51:20,200
Speaker 7: Yeah.

2373
01:51:20,479 --> 01:51:23,360
Speaker 3: Delta eight I believe was I don't even know what

2374
01:51:23,400 --> 01:51:27,600
Speaker 3: that is and other stuff. Yeah, so you could just

2375
01:51:27,720 --> 01:51:31,479
Speaker 3: sit in your seat and smoke. That's crazy because we've

2376
01:51:31,520 --> 01:51:33,599
Speaker 3: been on the other end of that cavern of smoking.

2377
01:51:33,920 --> 01:51:37,080
Speaker 3: Don't smoke even if it's open air, can't smoke, can't smoke.

2378
01:51:37,880 --> 01:51:39,599
Speaker 3: Are people gonna be lighting up joints?

2379
01:51:39,800 --> 01:51:39,920
Speaker 7: Oh?

2380
01:51:39,960 --> 01:51:42,519
Speaker 2: And you could vape also in your seat.

2381
01:51:42,640 --> 01:51:44,720
Speaker 3: I don't think whether if people are just gonna be lighting

2382
01:51:44,760 --> 01:51:47,439
Speaker 3: up marijuana cigarettes, just smoking right there in their seat

2383
01:51:47,760 --> 01:51:48,840
Speaker 3: while the game is going on.

2384
01:51:48,920 --> 01:51:53,680
Speaker 1: Right Denver, Broncos. I'm considering Colorado.

2385
01:51:54,120 --> 01:51:55,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's legal there.

2386
01:51:56,360 --> 01:51:59,040
Speaker 3: I mean, if you're gonna use vape pens, nobody can

2387
01:51:59,080 --> 01:52:02,639
Speaker 3: really tell the difference what's in those vape pens anyway, Right.

2388
01:52:03,400 --> 01:52:05,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, and if we if if marijuana starts happening in

2389
01:52:05,560 --> 01:52:07,000
Speaker 1: the seats, then I guess we have to get rid

2390
01:52:07,000 --> 01:52:11,160
Speaker 1: of it for the players too, right. I don't think really, like,

2391
01:52:11,200 --> 01:52:13,120
Speaker 1: how in the world can the people in the stands

2392
01:52:13,160 --> 01:52:21,040
Speaker 1: watching you play be sparking up? But if you like gambling, no,

2393
01:52:21,200 --> 01:52:23,280
Speaker 1: is it gonna be like a marijuana section because you

2394
01:52:23,320 --> 01:52:26,160
Speaker 1: can't have kids near stuff like that. So I wonder

2395
01:52:26,200 --> 01:52:28,479
Speaker 1: what they're going to do. I don't want my kids

2396
01:52:28,479 --> 01:52:30,400
Speaker 1: near that, but I also don't want them near vapes.

2397
01:52:31,080 --> 01:52:33,040
Speaker 2: That's true too, that's true.

2398
01:52:33,080 --> 01:52:34,479
Speaker 1: Definitely don't want them near vapes.

2399
01:52:34,520 --> 01:52:36,760
Speaker 2: But it's an open air stadium. So that's the saying

2400
01:52:36,800 --> 01:52:37,880
Speaker 2: that hawk by.

2401
01:52:37,880 --> 01:52:39,559
Speaker 1: Have you ever walked by somebody with a vape? We

2402
01:52:39,600 --> 01:52:42,360
Speaker 1: walked past somebody at a restaurant, my family. We walked

2403
01:52:42,360 --> 01:52:44,680
Speaker 1: past somebody like two weeks ago to a restaurant who

2404
01:52:44,720 --> 01:52:46,360
Speaker 1: was waiting on a table and they were vaping. I

2405
01:52:46,400 --> 01:52:49,400
Speaker 1: don't know what front door smoke was supposed to be. Yes,

2406
01:52:49,479 --> 01:52:53,960
Speaker 1: it was outdoors on a bench and like immediately perfect

2407
01:52:54,000 --> 01:52:56,799
Speaker 1: music for this, like dude blows it and the wind

2408
01:52:56,880 --> 01:52:59,960
Speaker 1: catches it and catches it over to us. Smelled like death.

2409
01:53:00,680 --> 01:53:03,320
Speaker 1: Smelled like death and taxes? Aren't he like? It was

2410
01:53:03,360 --> 01:53:05,280
Speaker 1: just I was just like, what are you doing?

2411
01:53:05,439 --> 01:53:07,680
Speaker 3: Are you a little surprised that this is going to

2412
01:53:07,720 --> 01:53:10,000
Speaker 3: be the new Norman? If the Packers are doing it,

2413
01:53:10,000 --> 01:53:12,160
Speaker 3: it's just a matter of time before all the other

2414
01:53:12,200 --> 01:53:14,559
Speaker 3: teams that have open air stadiums going to do it too.

2415
01:53:14,720 --> 01:53:17,679
Speaker 3: Alabama said we're gonna do that all cigarettes is awful

2416
01:53:17,720 --> 01:53:20,360
Speaker 3: to me, that is bad. I'm a little surprised about that.

2417
01:53:20,439 --> 01:53:22,640
Speaker 3: Usually they make you, you know, they shame you in

2418
01:53:22,880 --> 01:53:25,360
Speaker 3: say go to the corner and don't let us look

2419
01:53:25,400 --> 01:53:25,600
Speaker 3: at you.

2420
01:53:25,760 --> 01:53:29,519
Speaker 1: I thought we had evolved past that. Madman was a

2421
01:53:29,680 --> 01:53:33,519
Speaker 1: show set in the fifties. Yeah, and everybody's smoking all

2422
01:53:33,560 --> 01:53:37,040
Speaker 1: through the show. But like we're in twenty twenty four,

2423
01:53:37,280 --> 01:53:41,000
Speaker 1: everybody knows the risks. Unless you smoke, you probably hate

2424
01:53:41,000 --> 01:53:42,760
Speaker 1: the smell of it. I wonder why. I don't know

2425
01:53:42,800 --> 01:53:45,160
Speaker 1: anybody that doesn't smoke. This's like man love to smell

2426
01:53:45,160 --> 01:53:48,640
Speaker 1: of cigarettes. Just don't like to smoke. No, have you

2427
01:53:48,680 --> 01:53:51,320
Speaker 1: ever walked in in a place where smoking is done?

2428
01:53:51,320 --> 01:53:52,479
Speaker 1: You ever walked into a house?

2429
01:53:52,920 --> 01:53:53,080
Speaker 7: Oh?

2430
01:53:53,120 --> 01:53:55,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. Every time I've ever told something on eBay, always

2431
01:53:55,960 --> 01:53:58,200
Speaker 1: make a point to say smoke free house.

2432
01:53:58,320 --> 01:54:01,599
Speaker 2: Right right exactly because you can tell the difference.

2433
01:54:01,880 --> 01:54:04,439
Speaker 3: I just it's just amazing. Why did they change it?

2434
01:54:04,479 --> 01:54:07,080
Speaker 3: Why did this become a vote? Why are they changing

2435
01:54:07,120 --> 01:54:08,519
Speaker 3: it to this way? I have no idea.

2436
01:54:08,640 --> 01:54:10,320
Speaker 1: I don't either, Like I didn't know this was a

2437
01:54:10,320 --> 01:54:12,720
Speaker 1: big time issue that they needed to ache.

2438
01:54:12,840 --> 01:54:13,439
Speaker 2: I didn't know either.

2439
01:54:13,479 --> 01:54:15,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just saw that story. See people not coming

2440
01:54:15,800 --> 01:54:17,439
Speaker 1: to the games because they can't smoke.

2441
01:54:17,600 --> 01:54:18,640
Speaker 2: You know, it's one thing about it.

2442
01:54:18,600 --> 01:54:20,960
Speaker 3: If you good to let people smoke marijuana, because that's

2443
01:54:21,120 --> 01:54:22,760
Speaker 3: legal in a lot of states.

2444
01:54:22,680 --> 01:54:26,160
Speaker 2: But synthetic marijuana doesn't have a bad effect on some people.

2445
01:54:26,200 --> 01:54:26,680
Speaker 2: I don't know.

2446
01:54:27,400 --> 01:54:30,920
Speaker 1: I mean, it seems like I don't know at this

2447
01:54:30,960 --> 01:54:35,840
Speaker 1: point in time. I nothing makes sense anymore. Decisions that

2448
01:54:35,880 --> 01:54:38,080
Speaker 1: are made are just made. When we come back. Well,

2449
01:54:38,120 --> 01:54:40,000
Speaker 1: this one does make a little bit of sense. Somebody's

2450
01:54:40,000 --> 01:54:44,200
Speaker 1: gonna be joining Peyton and Eli in the first quarter

2451
01:54:44,760 --> 01:54:46,440
Speaker 1: of all the manning casts. Is it gonna be a

2452
01:54:46,440 --> 01:54:48,440
Speaker 1: good thing? And doesn't make it a must watch? Plus

2453
01:54:48,480 --> 01:54:51,320
Speaker 1: we will pick the Sunday and Monday NBA games. That's

2454
01:54:51,400 --> 01:54:56,800
Speaker 1: next Fox Sports Saturday here on Fox Sports Radio. Yeah.

2455
01:54:56,800 --> 01:54:58,800
Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm gonna say to this other than.

2456
01:54:59,160 --> 01:55:00,920
Speaker 3: I don't think you could bring in a bomb saying

2457
01:55:00,960 --> 01:55:03,520
Speaker 3: the game. Yeah it's I think it's just cigarettes.

2458
01:55:03,600 --> 01:55:05,040
Speaker 2: I don't think you're bringing a bomb.

2459
01:55:08,000 --> 01:55:13,760
Speaker 1: It is Fox Sports Saturday. Finishing up. Remember it's Mother's Day.

2460
01:55:13,840 --> 01:55:16,320
Speaker 1: We'll go ahead and tell you that one more time. Yep,

2461
01:55:17,360 --> 01:55:20,240
Speaker 1: just about everywhere. Yep. Happy Mother's Day to all of

2462
01:55:20,240 --> 01:55:22,760
Speaker 1: those out there that qualify. And if you haven't gotten

2463
01:55:22,800 --> 01:55:31,040
Speaker 1: something for her yet, So Bill Belichick first quarter, every

2464
01:55:31,080 --> 01:55:35,720
Speaker 1: Manning cast, this fall, Peyton and Eli. Does that make

2465
01:55:35,800 --> 01:55:41,360
Speaker 1: it must see to you if you are if you've

2466
01:55:41,400 --> 01:55:42,920
Speaker 1: tuned out of it, Like for me, I've kind of

2467
01:55:42,920 --> 01:55:45,120
Speaker 1: gone back to just watching Joe and Troy. I just

2468
01:55:45,160 --> 01:55:47,080
Speaker 1: kind of want to watch, just kind of see the game,

2469
01:55:47,160 --> 01:55:49,480
Speaker 1: and then afterwards there'll be highlights all over websites and

2470
01:55:49,480 --> 01:55:51,600
Speaker 1: everything whatever happened on the Manning cast. Not that I'm

2471
01:55:51,680 --> 01:55:55,280
Speaker 1: not sometimes it gets a little bit too to drink

2472
01:55:55,320 --> 01:55:58,960
Speaker 1: minimum comedy act kind of stuff and all that, and

2473
01:55:59,080 --> 01:56:01,160
Speaker 1: I like it when they're breaking down the actual game

2474
01:56:01,240 --> 01:56:05,720
Speaker 1: and this, but Belichick being involved in it does certainly

2475
01:56:05,760 --> 01:56:09,160
Speaker 1: make me at least want to like DVR and then

2476
01:56:09,200 --> 01:56:11,320
Speaker 1: go back and watch the first quarter. I watched the

2477
01:56:11,360 --> 01:56:12,880
Speaker 1: first one.

2478
01:56:13,160 --> 01:56:15,000
Speaker 2: If if we're gonna talk about are you going to

2479
01:56:15,000 --> 01:56:15,800
Speaker 2: tune in for Belichick?

2480
01:56:15,840 --> 01:56:16,800
Speaker 1: I watched the first one.

2481
01:56:16,840 --> 01:56:18,440
Speaker 3: I want to see what he's got. I want to

2482
01:56:18,480 --> 01:56:19,880
Speaker 3: see what he's got to say. I want to see

2483
01:56:19,920 --> 01:56:22,600
Speaker 3: if he's going to go ahead and be critical, that's

2484
01:56:22,680 --> 01:56:25,640
Speaker 3: important part. If he's not going to be critical, if

2485
01:56:25,640 --> 01:56:28,440
Speaker 3: he's just gonna go ahead and you know, tiptoe through

2486
01:56:28,480 --> 01:56:30,680
Speaker 3: all the mistakes out there, then I really don't care

2487
01:56:30,720 --> 01:56:32,960
Speaker 3: what he's got to say. And two, I'm gonna go

2488
01:56:33,000 --> 01:56:35,520
Speaker 3: ahead and just probably get the clips of it, because

2489
01:56:35,680 --> 01:56:37,360
Speaker 3: when I'm watching the game, I don't need to hear

2490
01:56:37,400 --> 01:56:40,160
Speaker 3: everybody just going back and forth. And you know, maybe

2491
01:56:40,160 --> 01:56:43,920
Speaker 3: if there's like one big play and there's controversy, maybe

2492
01:56:43,920 --> 01:56:45,440
Speaker 3: I want to hear what everybody has to say.

2493
01:56:45,600 --> 01:56:48,000
Speaker 2: But otherwise I just want to watch the game and

2494
01:56:48,080 --> 01:56:49,320
Speaker 2: listen to the announcers.

2495
01:56:49,360 --> 01:56:51,360
Speaker 3: I I really don't want to hear the back and

2496
01:56:51,400 --> 01:56:55,240
Speaker 3: forth and right away the instant analysis or anything like that.

2497
01:56:55,320 --> 01:56:57,480
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I think that I think the first

2498
01:56:57,480 --> 01:57:00,280
Speaker 1: one will give you a good sense of what you're

2499
01:57:00,360 --> 01:57:02,400
Speaker 1: likely to get from it. And I think the only

2500
01:57:02,520 --> 01:57:06,120
Speaker 1: danger when it comes to and you ask the right question,

2501
01:57:06,240 --> 01:57:09,600
Speaker 1: I think in terms of which Belichick you're gonna get

2502
01:57:09,680 --> 01:57:12,760
Speaker 1: is is he worried about burning a bridge in the

2503
01:57:12,840 --> 01:57:15,760
Speaker 1: league and getting back and coaching and as such, is

2504
01:57:15,760 --> 01:57:17,360
Speaker 1: he going to be Is he going to treat things

2505
01:57:17,360 --> 01:57:20,920
Speaker 1: with kid gloves right exactly? If not? If he's going

2506
01:57:20,960 --> 01:57:22,640
Speaker 1: to go in and be the Bill Belichick that we

2507
01:57:22,720 --> 01:57:24,560
Speaker 1: know he can be when it comes to being able

2508
01:57:24,600 --> 01:57:28,480
Speaker 1: to analyze and break down and explain what's happening and

2509
01:57:28,640 --> 01:57:31,760
Speaker 1: really kind of get into it. That to me is

2510
01:57:31,800 --> 01:57:34,440
Speaker 1: going to be must watch stuff. But if he is

2511
01:57:34,640 --> 01:57:36,440
Speaker 1: a little bit, if he still wants to get back

2512
01:57:36,480 --> 01:57:38,280
Speaker 1: into the league, and so that's going to cause him

2513
01:57:38,280 --> 01:57:41,320
Speaker 1: not to go quite as hard that I think will,

2514
01:57:41,600 --> 01:57:43,960
Speaker 1: that will neuter the ability of it to work.

2515
01:57:44,120 --> 01:57:46,880
Speaker 3: Right, it won't be great TV and the Mannings will

2516
01:57:46,880 --> 01:57:48,320
Speaker 3: have to push him and stuff like that.

2517
01:57:48,760 --> 01:57:50,360
Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to be like that.

2518
01:57:50,440 --> 01:57:54,360
Speaker 3: I will probably get some raw motion and to that effect,

2519
01:57:54,360 --> 01:57:57,880
Speaker 3: but you know again, otherwise I'll just watch the clips.

2520
01:57:57,920 --> 01:58:00,560
Speaker 2: I don't need to hear him for the entire quarter.

2521
01:58:01,120 --> 01:58:03,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I don't know. It might be great. It

2522
01:58:03,440 --> 01:58:05,520
Speaker 1: really might be. And of course there's gonna be great stories,

2523
01:58:05,560 --> 01:58:08,879
Speaker 1: but probably told about the Colt Patriots rivalry.

2524
01:58:08,960 --> 01:58:09,440
Speaker 2: Oh I'm sure.

2525
01:58:09,520 --> 01:58:12,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's not the time I want to hear it, right,

2526
01:58:12,640 --> 01:58:14,240
Speaker 3: I don't want to hear the stories then while I'm

2527
01:58:14,280 --> 01:58:15,000
Speaker 3: watching the game.

2528
01:58:15,040 --> 01:58:16,920
Speaker 2: I prefer to hear them when I'm not watching the game.

2529
01:58:16,960 --> 01:58:18,880
Speaker 1: Well, it just depends if it's a down moment or

2530
01:58:18,880 --> 01:58:21,480
Speaker 1: if it's something that's relevant. All right, New York, Indiana,

2531
01:58:22,000 --> 01:58:23,879
Speaker 1: Big Time Game four? Who you got.

2532
01:58:24,400 --> 01:58:27,160
Speaker 3: Spread six and a half in favor of Indiana. Holi

2533
01:58:27,240 --> 01:58:29,240
Speaker 3: Burton is just two banged up. So what I'm gonna

2534
01:58:29,240 --> 01:58:30,960
Speaker 3: do is, I'm gonna take the Knicks BLUs up five

2535
01:58:31,000 --> 01:58:33,440
Speaker 3: and a half. I want to take the other two seventeen.

2536
01:58:33,800 --> 01:58:36,800
Speaker 3: Last game was two twenty seven. I believe was one sixteen,

2537
01:58:36,840 --> 01:58:39,360
Speaker 3: one eleven. They're making it a little bit lower than

2538
01:58:39,640 --> 01:58:42,800
Speaker 3: twenty one because the question mark about how a Burton.

2539
01:58:42,840 --> 01:58:46,000
Speaker 3: I just can't imagine that many points again. So I'll

2540
01:58:46,000 --> 01:58:47,480
Speaker 3: take the Knicks and I'll take the under.

2541
01:58:47,760 --> 01:58:49,760
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna take the Knicks to win the game.

2542
01:58:50,280 --> 01:58:55,000
Speaker 1: Denver Minnesota, Big time Game four on t at who

2543
01:58:55,040 --> 01:58:55,560
Speaker 1: you got.

2544
01:58:55,560 --> 01:58:57,720
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do Minnesota. I think they come out very

2545
01:58:59,040 --> 01:59:00,640
Speaker 3: pumped up in this one. I'll lay to two and

2546
01:59:00,680 --> 01:59:02,880
Speaker 3: a half and I'll go the over two o four

2547
01:59:02,920 --> 01:59:03,360
Speaker 3: and a half.

2548
01:59:03,440 --> 01:59:05,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the Nuggets to say that even the

2549
01:59:05,080 --> 01:59:08,960
Speaker 1: series at two, you think Boston or Oklahoma City loses real.

2550
01:59:08,880 --> 01:59:10,720
Speaker 2: Fast, Dallas go with Dallas.

2551
01:59:10,840 --> 01:59:13,680
Speaker 1: All right, there it is. That's Arnie Spaniard. Bernie Fratto

2552
01:59:13,760 --> 01:59:17,160
Speaker 1: is up next. Appreciate you, Arnie. Thank Caving folks,