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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, one episode one seven to six of them

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Speaker 1: Territory podcast. I'm your host, Brad Rowland, coming to you

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Speaker 1: on a Sunday evening here in early April, when I'm

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Speaker 1: joined as I often am, by Scott Coleman. Scott, the

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Speaker 1: Braves did not played baseball today, and for some people

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Speaker 1: that was probably okay, how are you.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Brad? Yeah, you know, the good news about being

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Speaker 2: rained out on Sunday is that the Braves did not

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Speaker 2: lose on Sunday. I mean, it's it's sad that that's

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Speaker 2: kind of the overarching takeaway from a rain out ten

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Speaker 2: days into the season that a lot of people were like, well,

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Speaker 2: they aren't going to lose a series to the Marlins,

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Speaker 2: at least not yet. But here we are ten days

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Speaker 2: into the season and the Atlanta Braves have one win.

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Speaker 2: That is one even if the vibes on Friday Night

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Speaker 2: were really great and we had a really fun show

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Speaker 2: with Sean after that win, a frustrating one on Saturday,

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Speaker 2: and then a very rainy Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and we should say at the top of the show,

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Speaker 1: we are part of a foul Territory network of podcasts.

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Speaker 1: This is Hammer Territory. We appreciate your joining us. Please subscribe,

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Speaker 1: rates and review. And as Scott just noted, we did

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Speaker 1: a show on Friday evening. It was the law firm

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Speaker 1: of Coleman and Coleman bringing you some good news on

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Speaker 1: a Friday night, which was fun to listen to from

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Speaker 1: the outside. And the rap blues on Saturday, which we

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Speaker 1: talk about in a moment. But big picture, you know,

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Speaker 1: the vibes are not the best. As Scott just alluded

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Speaker 1: to one and eight for the Braves, they were rained

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Speaker 1: out today.

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Speaker 3: It was gonna be It's gonna be postponed until a

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Speaker 3: doubleheader in August.

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Speaker 1: Now this is more of a Sean Coleman job, But

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Speaker 1: I'll be at Optimus for a second and just point

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Speaker 1: this out right. Ready for this, Scott read for a little

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Speaker 1: a little bit of spin on a Sunday night.

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Speaker 2: I would love some spin. We need some spin right

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Speaker 2: now for this Brave season.

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Speaker 1: I'll try my best. The Braids were supposed to face

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Speaker 1: Sandy Alcantra on Sunday right by far, the best player

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Speaker 1: on the Marlins, definitely the best picture on the Marlins.

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Speaker 1: So if you wanted to take the Sean Coleman optimism approach,

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Speaker 1: you could say missing a game against Sandy on a

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Speaker 1: might not be on the team anymore in August, and

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Speaker 1: also might I pitch that day.

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Speaker 3: Objectively, you could say.

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Speaker 1: The Braves might have a higher win percentage in the

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Speaker 1: today with Grant Holmes against Sandy. Is that a fair

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Speaker 1: spin or am I trying or am I just trying

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Speaker 2: I think we're looking for silver linings wherever we can

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Speaker 2: get them. But that's right, Yeah, it's it's legitimate. Funny enough.

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Speaker 2: Sandy on Contra was supposed to be pitch Monday, so yeah,

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Speaker 2: Marlins actually moved their pitching staff around a little bit

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Speaker 2: to pitch him against the Braves. Because he and his

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I'll take it means they get him in August, hopefully,

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Speaker 2: I think we're kind of grasping its straws for what

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Speaker 2: But I don't know. Man, it's been a rough go.

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Speaker 1: No, it will definitely break down, at least in some

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Speaker 1: they preview of Braves filmies, which begins on Tuesday. I

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Speaker 1: have a little bit of a game for you, though, Scott,

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Speaker 1: before we get into all of that stuff that I

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Speaker 3: Just a few months ago.

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Speaker 1: Right now, our friends over at Fangrafts. They do great

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Speaker 1: work there.

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Speaker 3: I rely on them daily. I gotta say, awesome, awesome site.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: They have the Braves projected as of today and it's

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Speaker 1: eighty eight wins and a seventy point three percent chance

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Speaker 1: as you think about your response here, Scott, with like

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Speaker 1: I actually heard the podcast with Ben Limberg and mcgrawley

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Speaker 1: that seem high to you, low to you, or just

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Speaker 2: It's a great question. I can't believe I'm saying this,

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Speaker 2: but seventy percent actually feels a little high to me. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we're a line on that. For the

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Speaker 2: And you look around, of course, and this is a

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Speaker 2: little funny that we're talking about playoff brackets this time, but.

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Speaker 2: Exactly? Yeah, we got to talk about something, and it's

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Speaker 2: The playoff structure. The three division winners get in, obviously,

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Speaker 2: Maybe not one hundred percent, but ninety eight percent. The

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Speaker 2: they have to figure this thing out soon. You do

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Speaker 2: you mentioned I mean, I think aj almost has to

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Speaker 2: stand the rotation out of sheer necessity at this point.

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Speaker 2: But if he's only able to go three or four

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Speaker 2: innings every time, because every inning seemingly takes twenty or

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Speaker 2: twenty five pitches, that's a real problem. You are going

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Speaker 2: to burn your bullpen out so quickly. And I think

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Speaker 2: at this point, because you don't have Ronaldo Lopez for

438
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Speaker 2: bare minimum two months, I think you just kind of

439
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Speaker 2: have to roll him out there and hope he gets better.

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Speaker 2: He does have stuff that you can dream on. He

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Speaker 2: has the hard fastball, he has the big splitter, like

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Speaker 2: those are pitches you can work with, and hopefully he

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Speaker 2: gets better the way we've seen other young pitchers get better.

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Speaker 2: But through two starts against one good lineup and one

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Speaker 2: bad lineup, it was basically the same game. And that's

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Speaker 2: a concern.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would hold surf to that, and look, we'll

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Speaker 1: get into this in a second.

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Speaker 3: Strider's coming back.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully in the next few days. That will help. But

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Speaker 1: they don't have an overflowing piece of depth. And we

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Speaker 1: already saw we already saw Price Elder make a start

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Speaker 1: that already happened.

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Speaker 3: It's April sixth, so anyway.

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Speaker 2: I think we're gonna see quite a few Bryce Elder

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Speaker 2: starts this summer.

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Speaker 1: It seems like that's relatively likely at this point in time.

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Speaker 1: But we'll hold our breath and hopefully there's perfect health

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Speaker 1: everywhere else that you're not realistic though, if you followed

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Speaker 1: baseball for long enough to have been making these observations.

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Speaker 1: All right, Scott, more to come in just a second,

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Speaker 1: All right, Scott, before we get into Sean Murphy being activated,

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Speaker 1: and that'll be our spotlight segment on today's podcast. We

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Speaker 1: butt a strider already, h but he's gonna be pitching

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Speaker 1: in Gwinnette. On Thursday. There was some rumbling around Brave's Twitter,

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Speaker 1: even in the beat that they could have just skipped

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Speaker 1: this start all together and had him debut in the

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Speaker 1: majors in the next few days. Well, that's Nott's let's

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Speaker 1: have been changes. That's not going to happen. He is

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Speaker 1: scheduled to pitch on Thursday in Gwinette. He looked great

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Speaker 1: by all accounts on Friday in Gwinette. They're obviously still

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Speaker 1: being careful. I've seen people, and I get it. I've

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Speaker 1: seen people that are antsy about the record getting frustrated

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Speaker 1: by Strider and Accotona timelines because they're like, they gotta

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Speaker 1: they gotta go, they gotta go now. And I get it.

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Speaker 1: But these guys are signed long term. You don't want

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Speaker 1: to go crazy. And this is a little bit weird

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Speaker 1: where like I really thought once Strider threw what's seventy

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Speaker 1: five pitches, I was like, all right, major a week

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Speaker 1: time and they didn't do it.

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Speaker 3: What do you make of that? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I was really curious in waiting to hear what the

507
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Speaker 2: team was gonna do with Striider. I would not have

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Speaker 2: been shocked if if they decided to bring him up

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Speaker 2: after his last appearance with Gwinnett. But basically for four

510
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Speaker 2: months now, everything coming from the Braves on Spencer Streider

511
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Speaker 2: has been we are going to be as cautious as

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Speaker 2: humanly possible, and they've stuck true to their word. All

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Speaker 2: eyes will be ser I would sure think that Thursday

514
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Speaker 2: will be his final rehab appearance. Yeah, and then he'll

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Speaker 2: join the big league team on the road trip. I

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Speaker 2: believe they go to Tampa Bay and then well wherever

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Speaker 2: the Rays are playing down in Florida these days, and

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Speaker 2: then to Saint Louis. I would imagine that's when he

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Speaker 2: will return. Streider will return. But you know, there is

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Speaker 2: reason to think, Okay, he's probably healthy, but the velocity

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Speaker 2: has been down a little bit. I think the fastball

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Speaker 2: has been more ninety five ninety six than the usual

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Speaker 2: ninety seven to one hundred that we've seen. But he's

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Speaker 2: still getting a ton of strikeouts and has really good

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Speaker 2: command and everything. So I really think this is just

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Speaker 2: the Braves being careful, even if it is painful to

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Speaker 2: not have Strider in Acunya in the with the big

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Speaker 2: league club, but sure, all eyes on him. Hopefully he

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Speaker 2: gets through it clean and healthy, throw eighty five ninety pitches,

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Speaker 2: and then let's let's cross our fingers, because the Braves

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Speaker 2: really need Spencer Strider this summer. Striuider's average fastball VELOSI

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Speaker 2: last year at stackcasts like ninety six point three. I

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Speaker 2: think he's sitting in at like ninety four ninety five

534
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Speaker 2: right right now. You know, I'm not worried about that

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Speaker 2: right now, but it is something to keep an eye

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Speaker 2: on for sure, And uh yeah, i'd be unless something

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Speaker 2: goes wrong knock on all pieces of wood on Thursday.

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Speaker 3: I'll be shocked if he's not up after that.

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Speaker 1: Like I really thought it might happen this week, and

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Speaker 1: it's almost certainly going to happen after that unless he's

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Speaker 1: just a disaster, So hopefully not. And he has look

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Speaker 1: good by all accounts, so a positive update there, but look,

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Speaker 1: not to go back to what we was talking about,

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Speaker 1: he is just basically replacing, we're not on a lope

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Speaker 1: as though like he's you know, it's not like it's

546
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Speaker 1: not it's additive, but it's not like you have your

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Speaker 1: full compliment Answrider.

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Speaker 3: He's just sliding in for one of the guys you

549
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Speaker 3: already had until Lobez comes back.

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Speaker 1: So TVD on that the other speaking of a Kunya,

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Speaker 1: there was reporting this week he's gonna be heading to

552
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Speaker 1: LA soon to get some final clearances sign offs from

553
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Speaker 1: doctors before he really ramps it up and eventually goes

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Speaker 1: to rehab assignment. I think it was Bowman, it was Grant,

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Speaker 1: somebody somebody had said like early than mid May, perhaps

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Speaker 1: as a timeline that's been our guests for a while.

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Speaker 1: I mean, really January perhaps it was like, hey, probably

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Speaker 1: May for Acunya. Nothing seems out of the ordinary here,

559
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Speaker 1: but it is very brave to be careful. But I'm

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Speaker 1: on Bard with that. It may not be popular, but

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Speaker 1: I want Ronald to be Ronald when he returns, and

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Speaker 1: giving him more time as probably the best way. By

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Speaker 1: the way, I'm sure he hates this. He was hitting

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Speaker 1: in like December. You're watching those videos this winter, it

565
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Speaker 1: was like, oh, Ryan is already hitting. How's this possible? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but he's not cutting yet, Like the stuff you have

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Speaker 1: to do to get back from a kneejer like that,

568
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Speaker 1: you got to be able to do a certain benchmarks.

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Speaker 3: He's not quite there yet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I don't blame the Braves at all

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Speaker 2: for being overly cautious here. Of course, the two knee

572
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Speaker 2: surgeries in four years, and I mean at this point

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Speaker 2: we are ten and a half months removed from when

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Speaker 2: Ronald tore the knee near the end I think it

575
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Speaker 2: was May twenty fifth or May twenty sixth of last year,

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Speaker 2: and with modern medicine, that's a lot that's on the

577
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Speaker 2: longer end of ACL recovery times right now, at least

578
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Speaker 2: in the major sports. I can't speak for every sport

579
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 2: around the world, but generally you have this injury within

580
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Speaker 2: eight or nine months, most players come back. I think

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Speaker 2: the first time around, Ronald came back after about nine months,

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Speaker 2: and we saw him really struggle, at least for his

583
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Speaker 2: lofty standards. And I think the Braves are being smart here.

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Speaker 2: Even if those nights where you have Jared Kelnick and

585
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 2: Brian de Lacruz in the corners, or Stuart Fairchild or

586
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Speaker 2: eventually Alex Rdugo, you have to protect Ronald and if god,

587
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Speaker 2: if another thing happens to one of those knees, we

588
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 2: are in big, big, big trouble. And if that means

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Speaker 2: that maybe you have to give him an extra week

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Speaker 2: or two or three to make sure he is absolutely

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent and that knee is as structurally sound

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Speaker 2: as it can medically be, then do it. Because this

593
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Speaker 2: is still one of the most talented baseball players on

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Speaker 2: the earth, and you have to do whatever you can

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Speaker 2: to protect Ronald and that knee and that long term asset.

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Speaker 3: That is well said.

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Speaker 1: I had nothing to add to that beautiful rundown there, Scott.

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Speaker 1: We do want to talk about Sean Murphy and Chadwick

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Speaker 1: Trump and all that can be actually our player spotlight

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Speaker 1: today's segment here. It's brought to a lot of folks

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Speaker 1: at FanDuel Sports Network, which will tell you more about

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Speaker 1: in just one moment. But Sean Murphy is in fact

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Speaker 1: already activated on Sunday, so they brace have the day

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Speaker 1: off from actually playing baseball, but they in like around

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Speaker 1: first pitch time or something like that of a game,

606
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Speaker 1: it didn't happen activated Murphy officially, so he's going to

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Speaker 1: be back. Presumably he will be in the lineup on Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: or you don't bring him back on Sunday. And as

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Speaker 1: the sort of move in conjunction, they defade Chadwick Trump,

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Speaker 1: which essentially announces that Baldwin is going to be staying

611
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Speaker 1: in the majors, which we assumed was probably going to happen,

612
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Speaker 1: was not one hundred percent certain to happen. So that's

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Speaker 1: what I mean. Everyone has reported that assuming it et cetera.

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Speaker 1: First things first, good to have Murphy back. That may

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Speaker 1: sound like controversial statement to some, but I think I've

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Speaker 1: said many times on this podcast. Even if you Hatehan Murphy,

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Speaker 1: he's better than Chawick. Trump is the way that I

618
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Speaker 1: framed them on a recent show, and that's like the

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Speaker 1: lowest bar possible. But he does help them get people

620
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Speaker 1: are skeptical of that. I think Sean Murphy is still

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Speaker 1: gonna be good. We will see.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to.

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Speaker 1: Guarantee that, but it is good news objectively, at least

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Speaker 1: to me Scott, that Sean Murphy is back.

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Speaker 2: It's great news. And we talked in the preseason before

626
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Speaker 2: the rib injury, but Sean Murphy is It's a really, really,

627
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Speaker 2: really important year for Murph. Yeah, he was hurt to

628
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 2: start last season and then just never got his footing,

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Speaker 2: basically in a fifty to fifty split with Travis Darnaut

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Speaker 2: and let's hope, man, I really hope that Seawn Murphy

631
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Speaker 2: comes out and establishes himself as one of the better

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Speaker 2: catchers in baseball, because he has shown he can do

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Speaker 2: that with both Oakland and in his first year with

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Speaker 2: the Braves. And we've said it before on the show,

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Speaker 2: We'll say it one more time. Whether you are the

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Speaker 2: biggest skeptic of Murphy's and don't want him on the team,

637
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 2: or if you are an ardent defender and supporter of Murph's.

638
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 2: The Braves really need Sean Murphy, and they really need

639
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Speaker 2: his bat, and they really need his glove. And sure,

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Speaker 2: and maybe there's some crazy world where both Murphy and

641
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Speaker 2: Baldwin are having such good summers the Braves don't know

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Speaker 2: what to do. But that is a non problem. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I guarantee you there is no There's no scenario, Brad

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Speaker 2: where we do a podcast and go, man, Sean Murphy's

645
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 2: killing the ball and man Drake Baldwin's crushing everything, what

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00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 2: are we gonna do? That is a the farthest thing

647
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Speaker 2: away from a problem. So let's hope that Murphy, who

648
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Speaker 2: had a pretty good rehab appearance with Gwinnett, is ready

649
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 2: to go this week. Can give the lineup a boost

650
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Speaker 2: and also just give the Braves some flexibility at the

651
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Speaker 2: catcher spot, because while they've played Baldwin, I think every

652
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 2: game but one, clearly you said it well, with the

653
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 2: limitations of this lineup right now, the last thing you

654
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 2: want is Chadwick Trump out there because that just basically

655
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Speaker 2: gives you two or three automatic outs at the bottom

656
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Speaker 2: of the order.

657
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and look everyone likes shot with Trump. By all accounts,

658
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 1: there was a lot. There was an outpouring and I'm

659
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Speaker 1: not saying anything negative aout chatw with Trump.

660
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Speaker 3: He's just not a very good hitter.

661
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Speaker 1: And that's like the reality that I think everyone could

662
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: kind of agree on that it's not.

663
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 3: A shot at him.

664
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: He's just he's a backup catcher, that's what he is,

665
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: and a low ceiling one at that, whereas Murphy is

666
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: a all star caliber player when he is right and

667
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: whist he has been. So there's that. There is the

668
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: question about how they handle this. You you mentioned already

669
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 1: kind of tongue in cheek, but it's true. We've already

670
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: been getting ques. I'm sure you have. I know I

671
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: have been getting questions about Baldwin playing left field or

672
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: putting those zoo in left field again, and have Baldwin

673
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: d h Some of that will probably save for later.

674
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Speaker 1: I think it's pretty clear that Ozuna playing the outfield

675
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 1: as a something that Brays don't want to do. They've

676
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,719
Speaker 1: shown us that repeatedly for about two years now. And

677
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: I have one one nugget about Drake Baldwin. Uh, he's young, yes,

678
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: but he's still a catcher. Scott and I pulled this

679
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: number from stat Cast. He has like tenth percentile sprint speed.

680
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: He's not a very fast individual by pro baseball standards.

681
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying he can't play left field, but

682
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: I'll be surprised if the Braves try to have their

683
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: prized prospect suddenly changed positions to play left field at

684
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: age twenty four.

685
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 3: Just I'm not saying they won't do it.

686
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: I'm not take a zero percent chance, but like until

687
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: there's a decision that has to be made, Like, I'm

688
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: not worried about it. And in the meantime, ballwin and

689
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: Murphy can split time. I mean, I think some of

690
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: the dream scenarios that they were talking about with Murphy

691
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: playing like five, five or six games probably won't happen

692
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: for a while if I had to guess, because you're

693
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: want to play Baldwin some but I mean, how do

694
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: you handle this in the meantime, It's just as Murphy

695
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: is still the number one I assume he is, but

696
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: like give him more days off?

697
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 3: Like what would you do if it was you?

698
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a fascinating question for the Braves, And if

699
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 2: it were me, I would try to get Sean Murphy

700
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 2: into the lineup as much as I can. I really

701
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 2: think he's a player who just needs the reps. And

702
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 2: aj Prizinski was on the show a couple of months ago,

703
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 2: and he a very accomplished fifteen year big league catcher,

704
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 2: was talking about just how hard it would be to

705
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 2: miss the first two months of the season with a

706
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 2: bad oblique issue and then come back and only play

707
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,959
Speaker 2: every other day. He said it'd be almost impossible. And

708
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 2: that's what Murphy was trying to do last year and

709
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 2: the numbers were not great. So I'm trying to get

710
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 2: Sean Murphy out there pretty much every day that his

711
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 2: body can handle it. Maybe you give Baldwin the day

712
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 2: games and Murphy the night games or something like that.

713
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 2: But the Braves need Murphy. They have four more years

714
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 2: of contract control, He's owed a lot of money. They

715
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 2: need him to be better. I think Sean Murphy's the

716
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 2: first person to tell you he needs to be healthy

717
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 2: and better. And I wanted to just throw a quick

718
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 2: galaxy brain at you, Brad about something that popped into

719
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 2: my head earlier. Do you think there is a chance

720
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 2: that the Braves are opting to keep Drake Baldwin up

721
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 2: maybe for the next month because whenever Sean Murphy can't catch,

722
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 2: they want Baldwin's bat in the lineup that does not

723
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 2: have profar or Akunya. And then in a month or so,

724
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 2: when Ronald comes back, then you would send Baldwin to

725
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 2: Gwinnett so he can play every day, which I think

726
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 2: most people would agree is what is best for him

727
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 2: long term. And then you bring up one of the

728
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 2: veteran catchers that you have added in the last couple

729
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 2: of weeks to the organization to be the far lesser

730
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 2: part of a platoon with Murphy, where Murphy's playing eighty

731
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 2: percent and those guys you're playing once a week. Is

732
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 2: there anything to that or am I big braining this.

733
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Speaker 1: I think it's not crazy at all. I think the

734
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 1: coplod answer, but the one that I think is real

735
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: is it it depends on what Murphy looks like and

736
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: what Baldwin looks like. But I think your theory is

737
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 1: perfectly sound. And I can already hear people mad about

738
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: even the prospects of setting Baltwe back on triple A.

739
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: But if he's playing once every five games in the

740
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,919
Speaker 1: majors versus playing in four out of every five games,

741
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 1: in Gwinnette for his development. You probably wanted to play Guinette, right.

742
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: I'm always a fan of that. I think the Braves

743
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: are a fan of that. They generally have not called

744
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: guys up unless they're going to play every day or

745
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: close to it. You've seen that even with their top rospects. Harris,

746
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: when he came up, he was up and he played

747
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: all the time. Vaughan Grissom, even when they've called him up,

748
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: he played second base every day. That's what and that's

749
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,399
Speaker 1: why they did that. This is a weird situation where

750
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: they kind of look around and like, we kind of

751
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: have to do this. It seems like with Murphy out

752
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: for a few weeks and Ketcher's different, you can split

753
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: time at catcher, even though we just talked about like

754
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: Murphy want to play more.

755
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 3: That makes sense to me.

756
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,399
Speaker 1: But it's position where you're not playing the same guy

757
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 1: every single.

758
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 3: Day in the way that you are at first base

759
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 3: or whatever.

760
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: But I think it's a perfectly reasonable thought to where

761
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: you just don't want to look down the lineup and say, man,

762
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: are five through nine or six through nine?

763
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 3: Is just dire today.

764
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: And I think Balwin versus Trump is a pretty big

765
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 1: gap at the play. And by the way, I'm looking

766
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 1: at Drake's stackcast page and I just saw his ops.

767
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 1: I'm sure someone will point out that he's not done

768
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: very well results wise, but if you look at the

769
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: underlying stuff on Baldwin and the eye test and all

770
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: the bad ball stuff, it looks much much, much better

771
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: than his results. So that's what we're talk about him

772
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: like he's already hitting because he looks good to everybody,

773
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,919
Speaker 1: including the stats, but he's okay, this is bad.

774
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 3: So that's part of this.

775
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, I think if Baldwin is smashing

776
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,959
Speaker 1: the ball at the major league level, it's a hard

777
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: pr cell to send that guy a triple A, you

778
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 1: know what I mean, that's fair, especially if Murphy is

779
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 1: not playing well. That's that the ultimate scenario where like

780
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: you can't do it pr wise or just organationally, as

781
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 1: if Murphy is like just okay or worse and Baldwin

782
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: is playing well, you can't do it then as much

783
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 1: as it as much as we might agree it might

784
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: be the best thing for his development, it's not gonna happen.

785
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: But if baal Win was just okay or Murphy is

786
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: playing well, yeah, I mean you got James mccannon, you

787
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: got you got Jason lay like you got guys down there.

788
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: And I think you're not crazy because I think if

789
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 1: you gave everyone the minor league guys Alex True Serrium

790
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: and said, would you rather have Okay for three years

791
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: from now, would you rather have Drake Balwin play ninety

792
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 1: percent of the time in Lynette or twenty percent of

793
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 1: the time in Atlanta. They're gonna choose the one that option.

794
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,280
Speaker 1: But they also have to prioritize the major league situation

795
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: and trying to win baseball games.

796
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's valid, and I think to put a bow

797
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 2: on this, I think it is very much a let's

798
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 2: see where things are at on May first, which is

799
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 2: four weeks from now. Let's see is Murphy hitting or

800
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 2: is he twenty twenty four Murphy where he can't hit anything?

801
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 2: What's Drake Baldwin doing in his limited sample of other bats?

802
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 2: Moving forward? I think the Braves are at least gonna

803
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 2: play Murphy sixty percent of the time. I would be

804
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 2: surprised if they go back to a rotating one to

805
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 2: one situation. I could be wrong there, but yeah, I'm

806
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 2: guessing Murphy will be the stronger side of the platoon.

807
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 2: But I also don't think if as long as Baldwin

808
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 2: is up, I don't think they are going to just

809
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 2: send him on the bench and never have him come

810
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 2: up ever again. It's just it'd be It's a tough

811
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 2: situation because if he was an outfielder, you could find

812
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,720
Speaker 2: ways to work him in, or if the Braves didn't

813
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 2: have a top two designated hitter in baseball, you could

814
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 2: find ways to work him in. But because you can

815
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 2: only play one catcher, and it's really tough to only

816
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 2: play every other day, especially for someone like Murphy who

817
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 2: has missed time with injuries. It's not a perfect puzzle,

818
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 2: but it feels like there's enough possibilities that it's gonna

819
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 2: work out. But I do think for at least for

820
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 2: the next couple of weeks, while the lineup is so dire,

821
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 2: especially at the bottom, it makes sense to have your

822
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 2: best hitters up.

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Speaker 1: They would absolutely love it if they could somehow make

824
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:23,760
Speaker 1: Marcelo's An able.

825
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 3: To play defense, but that ship has sailed, I think.

826
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 2: So his I think Alex actually talked about this on

827
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 2: the radio. Marcel could probably go out there and catch

828
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 2: a ball, but his shoulder can't not have the throwing

829
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 2: strict anymore. Teams if you think teams run on the Braves'

830
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 2: catchers right now on the basis, teams would take an

831
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 2: extra base on Marcelo Zuna literally every night because he

832
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:45,720
Speaker 2: just doesn't have the shoulder anymore.

833
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,760
Speaker 1: Yes, I understand the thought process behind, just like playing

834
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: fantasy baseball and putting Draking left field or putting Marcel

835
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,000
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Speaker 1: All right, Scott let us preview Braves Phillies, which begins

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Speaker 1: on Tuesday. So we're recording a Sunday night. The Braves

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00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: are off on on Monday, that was as scheduled off day.

853
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 1: They have an unscheduled off day today, but a big showdown. Obviously,

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00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 1: the hype will not be as much as it could

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00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: have been for this series because the Braves are where

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00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: they are right now. But look, the Breves are playing

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00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: at home and they cannot afford to lose all the games.

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Speaker 3: Said nothing else.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not going to tell you that they

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Speaker 1: won the series. The Phillies have been playing very well,

862
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 1: as we allude to earlier. They just took two or

863
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: through them from the Dodgers, which is not a small feat,

864
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: and they're seven and two. The Brads are six games

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Speaker 1: back right now as the series. The series begins on Tuesday.

866
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Speaker 1: And here's a stat for you. Philadelphia right now has

867
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 1: a team WRC plus of one twenty seven. That's like

868
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 1: top five in baseball right now, the Braves of w

869
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 1: RC plus is sixty seven, So now, obviously the Braves

870
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: are not going to be that bad all year long.

871
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 1: I feel even as much as we wanted to be

872
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: doing in gloom Scott, I feel pretty confident Atlanta will

873
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 1: not finish with that WRC.

874
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:41,240
Speaker 3: Plus this season.

875
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 1: But the gap is what it is, and Philly also

876
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 1: pitches very well, So big picture, what are you expecting?

877
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: And then we'll kind of talk about the pitching mashups?

878
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 1: But is it just a situation where it's like, all right,

879
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: measuring stick?

880
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:55,879
Speaker 3: What are the Braves like? What are you feeling about

881
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:56,280
Speaker 3: the series?

882
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 2: What am I feeling besides Duben Gloom, I sure hope

883
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 2: the Braves wake up so they don't get their asses

884
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 2: kicked in their home park against the division rival.

885
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 3: It's a fair sentence.

886
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 2: The Phillies look really good, and I think in some

887
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:13,280
Speaker 2: ways last year we kind of overlook or forget about

888
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 2: just how good the Phillies were for about, I mean,

889
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 2: really the majority of the regular season. They had the

890
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 2: most wins in baseball at the All Star break last year,

891
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 2: and they didn't have a bad second half, but they

892
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 2: kind of coasted, And maybe that's because the Braves and

893
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 2: the Phillies were not exactly banging down the door, or rather,

894
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,240
Speaker 2: the Braves and the Mets weren't banging on that door.

895
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 2: But you know, the Phillies look great. They have a

896
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 2: great core in place. It's basically the same team as

897
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 2: a year ago, and then they added a couple of

898
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 2: additional pieces that are all off to really good starts

899
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 2: this year. And of course we're going to see a

900
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,320
Speaker 2: couple of really good pitchers, you know, pound for pound.

901
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 2: I don't know if there's a better starting rotation than

902
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 2: the Phillies right now. And the Braves are gonna have

903
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 2: to hit and maybe there's a weird sense of optimism

904
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 2: because they've actually hit pretty well against the best charters

905
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 2: they faced, But I mean, I'm I'm not betting on

906
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 2: that continuing. And I mean, this this has the potential

907
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 2: to get really ugly. Brad. We will probably do a

908
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 2: show on Thursday night after the end of the series,

909
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 2: and I really really hope the Braves wake up and

910
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 2: figure some things out. But this series has a chance

911
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 2: to get really ugly. And that's kind of crazy to say.

912
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 2: Just a couple of weeks into the really the first

913
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:25,240
Speaker 2: full month of the baseball season.

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Speaker 1: All everybody, I please subscribe to I'm just kidding. That's

915
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: a good way to end that podcast. No, I'm kidding.

916
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,959
Speaker 1: It is rough on paper, but the Braves are also

917
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: very capable of winning the series. Like both those seas

918
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:39,919
Speaker 1: can be true. The Phillies have been much better so far.

919
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 1: The Phillies won the division last year. They're very good.

920
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: The Braves are still boy I might stop saying at

921
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 1: some point soon, hopefully not. The Breads are still good

922
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: in my opinion on paper. We'll find out if they

923
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: are not. They go on Tuesday. Is really interesting and

924
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 1: it's one that's going to get national attention because of

925
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,760
Speaker 1: who's pitching. It is Chris Sale against that Wheeler on Tuesday,

926
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: and it does not get better than that. Those are

927
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: two of the top five to eight pitchers of the

928
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 1: planet last year. They're one and two in Si Young

929
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,280
Speaker 1: voting and rightly so in the National League. That's a showdown.

930
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:15,240
Speaker 1: Wheeler is excellent. That's a tough test for the offense.

931
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 1: Fortunate Sales also excellent. So we'll see how that goes.

932
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 1: But I have nothing else to add. That's just a

933
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: you know, over under of six and a half. You know,

934
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: like one of those, like you know, no One's, no

935
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: one's maybe maybe they'll maybe one of them will kind

936
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: of balk at some point in this game. But they're

937
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,959
Speaker 1: both very good and it could be one of those

938
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: like Alzheimer's, or maybe the Braves get right against against

939
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 1: AGAINSTK Wheeler.

940
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 3: It'd be nice they did.

941
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 2: There's a there's a law in the Constitution, Brad that says,

942
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,720
Speaker 2: every time the Braves and the Phillies play, Zach Wheeler

943
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 2: has to pitch.

944
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: I don't understand how it's every single time he pitches.

945
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: I mean Nolan, it's not always for Nola for some reason.

946
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. In fact, no one's

947
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: not pitching him the series again, like it's I don't know,

948
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: no one's really Nolan makes every single start every single season,

949
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: and somehow doesn't pitch as much as we alway does.

950
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 3: I don't know.

951
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: Maybe we're making that up. It might just be anecdotal,

952
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: but it does seem like Wheeler just never misses the Braves.

953
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, always sees them. And that is an A plus

954
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 2: pitching matchup on Tuesday. And if you're looking for positives

955
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 2: after I just went down a dark pathway a couple

956
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 2: of minutes, where is Sean Coleman when you did Oh

957
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 2: my god, what's got our resident optimist Sean on the show?

958
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 2: But as the Braves are currently constructed, the pitching matchups

959
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 2: for Atlanta are about as good as what you can

960
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 2: hope for from the Brave side. Of course, Sale, then

961
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:33,399
Speaker 2: you're gonna have Grant Holmes, who is probably the third

962
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 2: best picture in this rotation right now. If if it

963
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 2: was Game three of the World Series, I'd probably go

964
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 2: Grant Holmes over A J. Smith Shauver or Bryce Elder.

965
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: Oh there's no by the way, for me, there's no probably.

966
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 1: I think that's a pretty easy decision in my opinion.

967
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: Now to your point about the way it lines up,

968
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 1: there is a there's an argument you can have, like

969
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: would you rather have Sale against a bad picture? So

970
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: you have a big advantage, but the counter is still there,

971
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: like I don't want to have Elder against Wheeler, you

972
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: know what I mean. That's not a fun matchup, So

973
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 1: maybe maybe you maybe Sale and Wheeler neutralize a little bit.

974
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,439
Speaker 1: And then to your point, on Wednesday, it's Holmes against

975
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: Taiwan Walker, who's probably Philly's worst starter. He was really

976
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: bad last year, he's not He's been good for a

977
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 1: long time, but was really bad last year.

978
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 3: That's at least not a huge disadvantage of the Braves.

979
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: And then Thursday is Schwellenbach, who I believe you gave

980
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: us Sion Award win two on Friday. Did you just

981
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: announce that he was gonna win it on Friday night

982
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: something like that for.

983
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:28,479
Speaker 2: The next five years.

984
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: Actually, he's He's pitching on Thursday against Taysa's Lozardo, who's

985
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 1: a good pitcher. But I think we probably think that

986
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: Schwallo back is better. So maybe we'll call it uh

987
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 1: Sale and Wheeler awash and then perhaps even small advantages

988
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: in the last two games. Do you want to find

989
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: that optimism at least not disadvantages. I think Schwammack's an

990
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 1: advantage Wednesday, maybe we'll call it even with Walker versus Holes,

991
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: even if you want to say, what like Walker's been

992
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 1: good for a lot of time again, but I think

993
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: right now in twenty twenty five, that's not a huge

994
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: disadvantage ship anything else. So pitching wise, this games are

995
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: in Atlanta. You can find some optimism, but you have

996
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 1: to hit. That's the other side of baseball is that

997
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: you have to hit. The pitching has actually been not terrible.

998
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: I won't say it's been great, but it's kind of

999
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: funny to say this out loud. Scott, the Braves are

1000
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: one in eight and they have not pitched terribly.

1001
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 3: They just haven't hit.

1002
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 1: It's not the pitching's fault at all. I mean, I

1003
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,439
Speaker 1: mean they're allowing four runs a game. Like four runs

1004
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 1: a game is not a bad number to be allowing.

1005
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 2: Yes, they should be winning more of these games. This team,

1006
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 2: based on how they've pitched, should at least be And

1007
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 2: it's crazy to say this, but all right, so they've played.

1008
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 2: They're one and eight, they've played nine games. They should

1009
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 2: at least be like three and six or even four

1010
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 2: and five if you want to be an eternal optimist.

1011
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 2: I mean, there's there's no reason for as well as

1012
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 2: these guys have pitched, they've had a couple of absolute

1013
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 2: gems from Schwellenbach. Chris Sale has been pretty good. Even

1014
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 2: Ronaldo Lopez, where it was kind of ugly, it was

1015
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 2: not on a results basis bad by any means. Brice

1016
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 2: Elder gave him a chance to win in LA. It's just, again, man,

1017
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 2: just very frustrating. That this is where we are, but

1018
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 2: maybe this will be the series that gets them going

1019
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 2: a division rival. Let's I mean, it feels like they

1020
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 2: can only go up from here, and maybe this is

1021
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 2: kind of what catapults them into a nice couple of

1022
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 2: weeks ahead.

1023
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 1: I think we agree on that, Scott, and that is

1024
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 1: a podcast. We'll call it a podcast right there on

1025
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 1: a Sunday. I don't know how we got to forty

1026
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: five minutes without a game, but that's just what we

1027
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 1: what you and I do on the podcast. Anything to

1028
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: add and if not, please tell folks that might be

1029
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 1: financed for the first time where they can find you

1030
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 1: on social media and all things.

1031
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 2: Scott Coleman, nothing to add, Brad. I hope you have

1032
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 2: a fantastic time at the Final four and the National

1033
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 2: Championship on Monday night should be a great game, could

1034
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 2: be an all timer hopefully.

1035
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:52,959
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1036
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean those games on Saturday night. Man crazy.

1037
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 2: I'm at Scott Coleman fifty five on socials. If you

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00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 2: want to follow a lot there, we kind of have fun.

1039
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 2: I don't know. Sometimes it's easier to tweet through the

1040
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,439
Speaker 2: pain then just sit there on the couch. But yes,

1041
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,439
Speaker 2: a big thank you to everybody for tuning in, even

1042
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 2: as we have gone through the very challenging opening week

1043
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 2: or two now of the season. We really do appreciate

1044
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 2: the support and we will have plenty of content coming

1045
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Speaker 2: this upcoming week.

1046
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Speaker 1: It has been angry Scott social media recently. We need

1047
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: less of that, which means more Braves wins, hopefully to

1048
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 1: neutralize some of the Scott Coln frustration. If you want

1049
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Speaker 1: to follow me, and I don't know why you would,

1050
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: but if you want to at bt Rowland on x

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Speaker 1: Slash Twitter, also the show Hammor Territory, which is myself, Scott,

1052
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,479
Speaker 1: Steven Tolbert and Sean Coleman. We are all over social

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1056
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1058
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Speaker 1: K color, you can see that on YouTube. But yeah,

1059
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Speaker 1: we'll have more shows come up this week, breaking down

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Speaker 1: a Philly series and more, and stay tuned for that.

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Speaker 1: We'll see everybody next time