1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: Well, well, well, the league announced the all star starters. 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 1: Is that time already? The Bucks and Pacers are on 3 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: the rise. We may have a flurry of deadline action 4 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: and more to discuss with actor and comedian Jackies Neil, 5 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: who you know from maybe The Daily Ziece. He also 6 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: might know him from Grand Crew comedian Flash, the live 7 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: show that everybody should be attending on the regular in 8 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, also drop Out TV and today's episode. I'm 9 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 1: Jack O'Brien. 10 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 2: And I'm producer Jabari being from Miles and this ismas 11 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 2: Miles and Jack, I'm mad boo. 12 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 3: And sometimes. 13 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 4: Sorry guy it luka do ch test. 14 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 5: Okay, there you go and be driving spinning fat number eighteen. 15 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 3: That's good. 16 00:00:54,920 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 6: Secure the Suffox or NBA Champions over the couple to. 17 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: What's up? 18 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 4: Hello? Three? 19 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 5: I'm doing that yogish three from the other from the 20 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 5: other side of the court, and I'm airballing. 21 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: That was that was annoying when he did that. Sometimes 22 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: I just annoyed when he can like do stuff that. 23 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 5: And you know what, you know what was even more 24 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 5: annoying about it too, is that like he had like 25 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 5: a perfect flicker of the wrist too. It wasn't just 26 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 5: like it wasn't just like a throw. It was truly 27 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,559 Speaker 5: like he shot the basketball. Yeah, it was. 28 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: It was one of those things that's like, oh, you 29 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,919 Speaker 1: would have been the best darts player in the world 30 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:54,919 Speaker 1: if you decided to crazy. Anyways, Ja Keith, We're thrilled 31 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: to Jack. 32 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 4: I'm thrilled to be here. 33 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: So last week we chose as our game of the 34 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: week the Rockets versus the Cleveland Cavaliers. Have you heard 35 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: of these two teams. 36 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 5: I've heard of Rockets, I've heard they go on into space. Right, 37 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 5: I don't know what a Cavalier is, Rockets, Calves. I 38 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 5: do know the teams. I didn't know about the game. 39 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: It is amazing, like how strange a name can be, 40 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 1: and it's just like part of ours again, like you 41 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: just name a team. I feel like the only team 42 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: that has resisted this is like the Wizards still doesn't 43 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: feel right for some reason. Everything else it's just like, yeah, 44 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: it's thunderous. You know, you could give a team, call 45 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 1: a team the Cavaliers, and I'm sure at the time 46 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: people are like what And now it's just like, yeah, 47 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: the Calves, man. 48 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 4: The Calves. Yeah, we'll showing it up. 49 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 5: I know I know we you know, not not speaking 50 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 5: on gun violence or anything, but let them be bullets. 51 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 4: Bro. 52 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 3: What I'm saying, bring back the old school Ridgers. 53 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: You know, the Rockets went into Cleveland came away with 54 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: a one point thirty five one victory. I think it 55 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: was there, like the Cavs fourth loss in a row. 56 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, they're on a on a little side here, they're 57 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:10,519 Speaker 5: little scared, which will happen? 58 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, well allow it, well allow it. 59 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 5: It's amazing because, like you know, before this little skined, 60 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 5: they were uh like thirty six and four or something 61 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 5: something crazy like that, thirty five and for an amazing 62 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 5: record going into the All Star break. And you know, 63 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 5: when you have records like that going into the All 64 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 5: Star Break, you start to like think about, Okay, where 65 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 5: are you gonna stack up against like the top teams 66 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 5: in history, the Warriors thirty three and seventy three and nine, 67 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 5: the Bulls seventy two and tens, or even the myriad 68 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 5: of sixty nine and thirteen teams, And like. 69 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 4: When teams are here, ninety plus. 70 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 5: Percent of them have stretches like this, so you realize 71 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 5: how hard it is to do what those teams did 72 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 5: during the season is so crazy. 73 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, they were on pace to win seventy games, and 74 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: I would like count it counted. That's just in the math. Yeah, 75 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: that's money in the bank. 76 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 5: And now I truly would not be surprised if they 77 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 5: lost fifteen to twenty games this year. I think they'll 78 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 5: still be like number one seed, but like, yeah, they 79 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 5: gonna lose, they gonna lose a few months. 80 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just want them to stay away ahead of Boston. 81 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 1: That's all I ask of you. Cleveland. 82 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 3: There's still six games up in the lost calm, so 83 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 3: that's goode. 84 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 1: And Boston's been on a bit of a slide of 85 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: their own. They lost to the Lakers. You know, Jalen 86 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,919 Speaker 1: Brown is kind of having a down year right now. 87 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 1: Up to this point, he's not He's not playing quite 88 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 1: as well as he did last season. So it's check low. Yeah, 89 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,799 Speaker 1: we won't. We won't dig into it too much, although 90 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: I do have an overall theory about that. I want 91 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: to get you guys thoughts on about who is overperforming 92 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: and underperforming this season. But first I do want to 93 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 1: talk about this game. The Rockets won by six, swear 94 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: it not for a last second layup. So I mean 95 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:07,239 Speaker 1: from Garland it was. You know, he made a layup 96 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: to cut it from six to four, which made it 97 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: seem closer than it was. But my revelation from watching 98 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: this game is that amen Thompson. Am I getting that? 99 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: It's amen? 100 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 3: Say it, but to say it both ways and you 101 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 3: covered your bases? 102 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 4: Amen? 103 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, an say amen Amen Thompson put up a triple 104 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 1: double and is just like he had just some blocks 105 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: and like put back dunks. That the speed with which 106 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: he gets off the ground like he obviously has boosties. 107 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 1: That is what this podcast is for as to tell 108 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: people when somebody has boosties. But also just like the 109 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: speed he jumps at just like he looks like he's 110 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: just standing there and then he his head is at 111 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: the rim a split second later. Is it's wild? He 112 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 1: is incredible and such are defender and so good around 113 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 1: the rim. He's the truth. He's going to be I 114 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 1: don't know like what he's going to be, but he's 115 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: gonna be somebody who is fun to watch for a 116 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 1: long long time. It feels like what year is he? 117 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 2: Again? 118 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 5: Is this is he's not a rookie right? No, he's 119 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 5: the second year yeah, second year player? 120 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 4: Yeah? Man, Like look, man, I I Am. 121 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 5: It's so weird because you know, we are old, so 122 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 5: we've had we are now to the place where we've 123 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 5: been through many generations. You know, I grew up in 124 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 5: the Jordan era. Some of us may probably grew up 125 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 5: in like the Magic and Bird era. First in the 126 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 5: Jordan era, but we are around that time frame. And 127 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 5: then we had like the Kobe the Tim duncan you 128 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 5: know that era which kind of coincided coincided with the 129 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 5: Lebron era, although he's been playing for seventy eight years. 130 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 4: Been in so many eras. 131 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, but now and then like the era throughout most 132 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 5: of our adulthood, which is or which are the people 133 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 5: that kind of share ages with, which is like the 134 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 5: Steph Curry's, the Kd's, you know, the Lebron's and all 135 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 5: these players like they are they are on their way out, 136 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 5: like they you know, in five years most of them 137 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 5: will not be playing, except for Lebron James. 138 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 4: But like like that, now he's gonna he's gonna outplay 139 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 4: them all. 140 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 3: He's gonna outplay one of his competitors' sons. 141 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, and then but still, but the crazy thing is 142 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 7: you still have a generation or era under that you 143 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 7: got the ganisus. You got the Ads, you got the 144 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 7: I mean the Cats, the Anthony Edwards, you know, wherever 145 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 7: he stands. 146 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 4: But but like. 147 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 5: These past like two three years, this new like rookie sophomore, 148 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 5: junior class. It's like showing like the NBA is gonna 149 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 5: be in such crazy athletic, lanky hands the next like 150 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 5: ten fifteen years. It's like really crazy. Man, I can't 151 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 5: even imagine what we're gonna be talking about and seeing 152 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 5: from some of these players, like five years from now. 153 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 5: It's like gonna be nuts. 154 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: It's so fun. There's so many good young players. It's yeah. 155 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: The So we always talk about the shot making we 156 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: think is important in basketball, and it's uh we we 157 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: think it's good in the NBA. These guys are good. 158 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: It makes good shots. 159 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 5: I think, uh, I think the side to side movement 160 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 5: is the most important. 161 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: Okay, it's just fundamental, fundamental, fundamental, back and forth, side 162 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 1: to side. All right. So here's my big theory. By 163 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:36,839 Speaker 1: the way, like de Berry said, Cleveland still is a 164 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 1: six game lead in the lost column. That's that's all 165 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: all we need from you, Cleveland. Just keep it right there, 166 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,439 Speaker 1: keep it right there. So while watching this game, they 167 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: were talking about how Houston is not shooting that many 168 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 1: threes this season. Probably the team that is most outperforming. 169 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: They're expected win total heading into the season. Is there 170 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: a team that is outperforming and like what people expect 171 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: could from them more than Houston than Houston? 172 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 4: Oh, okay, I mean Cleveland. 173 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: Cleveland would be the other Yeah Cleveland. Yeah, yeah, for 174 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: sure good but like, yeah, not this good. 175 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 4: Not really, man. I mean like we thought, okay see 176 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 4: would be here because. 177 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: It would be good. We didn't know they'd be this good. 178 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: And they're on my list of outperforming. 179 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 5: Also, yeah, I guess I thought they would be like 180 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 5: top three in the West, top. 181 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: Three in the West, but they're on a they're still 182 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: on a like historic pace, like they they. 183 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 4: Have the best record in the league right now. Yeah, 184 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 4: because I think. 185 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: I think they would be like close to seventy wins 186 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: if they kept up this pace, which I don't expect 187 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: them to. But it's just wild that they're there at all. Yeah, 188 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: like I thought they you know, everybody was picking them 189 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: in the West and I was like, that's like, that's right, 190 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: But it also felt like it was the sexy pick 191 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:59,719 Speaker 1: because like they picked up Crusoe and Hartenstein and like 192 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: the were like both people that like, you know, it 193 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: was like a smart thing to like those guys. You know, 194 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: it was like, oh, those guys are defensively they do 195 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: things that like people don't respect. So I thought maybe though, okay, 196 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 1: see love was like maybe a little bit overblown. So yeah, 197 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't expect it to go up this 198 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: many spots. 199 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 4: But yeah. 200 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: So my thesis that I think Jabbari's gonna tell me 201 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: I'm wrong about is that the moneyball smart like advantage 202 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: for a number of years has been threes are worth 203 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: more than twos. They're worth so much more than twos 204 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: that the team that shoots the most threes has like 205 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: a mathematical advantage. Uh. And you know, you can see 206 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: it by the fact that the number of threes the 207 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 1: teams are taken still like keeps going up year over year. However, 208 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: when you look at the teams that are over performing 209 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 1: expectations this year, other than Cleveland, who is still like 210 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 1: kind of toward I think they're fifth and overall three 211 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: point attempts, Boston's number one, But I'd say Boston is 212 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: actually underperforming. They're expected win total. Lakers are overperforming they're 213 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 1: expected win total. I think heading in, I don't think 214 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: you know, at least the smart basketball people that I 215 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: read and look at, I think had them either in 216 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: the play in category or below. Like I think a 217 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: lot of people. 218 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 8: They're still time and they're still they will end between 219 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 8: seven and ten. 220 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: So they're currently last in the league in three point attempts. 221 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: Clippers over performing expectations. They're twenty seventh in the league. Okay, 222 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: see overperforming. They're twelfth in the league. But they're doing 223 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: it with an MVP performance whose main weapon is a 224 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: mid range game like that. You know, Shay is a 225 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: mid range assassin, like that is when they need a bucket, 226 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: he's getting to the rim or getting into you know, 227 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: the paint, or just mid range and scoring. Like So, yeah, 228 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: Nick's probably about where, like I think a lot of 229 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: people had them being good, but they're maybe a little 230 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 1: bit over expectations. They're twenty fifth in three point attempts. 231 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: Detroit overperforming they're nineteenth. So I'm just wondering, is the 232 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: three day not Not Like I'm not going to go 233 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: full ESPN talking ahead and be like the three is 234 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: dead because obviously it's not. Boston still towards the top 235 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: of the league. They're shooting the most threes any team 236 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: has ever shot. But is there some strategic you know 237 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 1: move whether it be just like how people are defending 238 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: the three, like you know, people are overly selling out 239 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: to you know, close out on threes or something that 240 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: the smart teams are taking advantage of, the smart coaches 241 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: are taking advantage of. That's that's my question. 242 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 5: I think, Uh, I think we're an interesting part of 243 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 5: the NBA right NBA, like you know, culture right now. 244 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 5: And I think with the emergence of the dominance of 245 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 5: players like Jokic, the expected dominance that we're gonna see 246 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 5: from players like Wimby and like a lot of these 247 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 5: players who can shoot the three, who can stretch the floor, 248 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 5: but they are playing you know, from the paint on 249 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 5: a lot more than like, you know, the twenty fourteen 250 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 5: through twenty twenty two teams, you know. So I think 251 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 5: like because of that, you are seeing that like nope, 252 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 5: you are seeing that, like not many teams can do 253 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 5: what the Warriors did because not many shooters are Steph 254 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 5: Curry right and like and even though the three is 255 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 5: king and this that or the other, like the only 256 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 5: team that is truly one. I know Boston last year 257 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 5: one and they were a heavy three point shooting team, 258 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 5: but like, they did not win that series because they 259 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 5: were shooting a lot of threes. They won that series 260 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 5: because they just overpowered the team that they were playing 261 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 5: and just like had better players. 262 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it works better when it's a weapon and not 263 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: an identity. 264 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 4: And not an identity. 265 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 5: So not many teams have the identity that led to 266 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 5: championships like the Warriors had, like and so I think 267 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 5: a lot of teams are seeing that, Okay, yes, the 268 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 5: three is not an identity anymore. 269 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 4: It's a weapon. 270 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 5: I don't think it's going away. I think it's a 271 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 5: weapon that can work. But I think, like with all 272 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 5: these players who are coming in who are dominating from 273 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 5: you know, inside the three point line a lot more, 274 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 5: you're starting to get to a point where it's like, 275 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 5: you know, people were like, oh man, Shaq couldn't play 276 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 5: in today's league, and I was like, yo, yes he could. 277 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 4: If you put them on the court. Y'all ain't shooting 278 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 4: threes no more because. 279 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 5: You have to go guard, you have to feed, and 280 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 5: you're starting to see like, oh man, like the weapons 281 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 5: that we have probably are better suited not just keeping 282 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 5: them posted out to the three point line. And also, 283 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 5: you know, I wouldn't be surprised if, you know, if 284 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 5: talk around the NBA is like, ain't nobody watching as 285 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 5: much as they used to, and maybe like having one 286 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 5: hundred and thirty to one hundred and twenty six scores 287 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 5: isn't as fun take on a consistent basis. And so 288 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 5: because of that, you're also just seeing more defense, more 289 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 5: you know, in the paint play and things like that. 290 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 4: So I think it's only good for the league. 291 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you guys both know you may make 292 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 2: excellent points, and now Jack, I'm not going to disagree. 293 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 3: In fact, I agree wholeheartedly. 294 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 2: The reality is this we you know, it has been 295 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 2: a copycat league. 296 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 3: For a long time. 297 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 2: So to most to Jaquiz's point, from twenty fourteen to 298 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, you saw a lot of teams that 299 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 2: were really trying to you know, recreate that you know, 300 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 2: Steph and Clay Wheel, which like, good luck with that. 301 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 2: But the reality is you have more and more teams 302 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 2: these days that are just acknowledging what their realities are. 303 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 2: Like if you've got a Steff Hey, great, let that 304 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 2: guy go out there and shoot. You know, A thousand 305 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 2: and three is a game, but you can. You know, 306 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 2: what I'm intrigued or what I'm hope with, what this 307 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 2: UH instilled within me is the hope that we are 308 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 2: going to have varied and you know, varied offenses. 309 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 3: Again, it's not all. 310 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 2: Going to look exactly the same UH and and hopefully 311 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 2: enough of these teams can ignite and you can you 312 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 2: can find out that there are more than one way 313 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 2: to win. So you know, as long as you can 314 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 2: be competitive doing it, you're doing it your way. 315 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 3: Please more of it? 316 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break. We'll come back. 317 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: We'll talk about some things from around the league. We'll 318 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: talk about All Stars. We'll be right back. And we're back, 319 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: and we have the All Star starters. Were we're in. 320 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: They're in. They just came hot off the press. I know, 321 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: people know about it for a couple of days. So 322 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: we got Jalen Brunson, Donovan Mitchell, Big Cat, Karl Anthony Towns. 323 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: Has he been a starter before? 324 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 4: Yes, he has, let me go. Okay, if it was. 325 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 3: Far too confidently, I was like, no, let me go dope. 326 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 4: Check if he has it's been one time yeah, but 327 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 4: I mean. 328 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: He's he's surprisingly high on the MVP voting, Like I mean, Ben, Yeah, 329 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:25,239 Speaker 1: he's been incredible. Yeah, Jason Tatum and Jannis Ontkumpo the 330 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: Greek freak ever heard of him? He I think was 331 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 1: the top vote getter. So it's gonna be he and 332 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 1: Lebron are the captains. Yes, that Lebron James was the 333 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 1: top vote getter. Will be a starter on the Western Conference. 334 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: So we have like the you know, this is Jannis's 335 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: ninth time as an All Star, Tatum sixth, cat fifth 336 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: time as an All Star, but he's not been a 337 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: starter before. Jabari is confirming Donovan Mitchell six times. Jalen 338 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: Brunston is making it for the second time. Lebron James 339 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: is making it for the twenty first time, his twenty 340 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: first All Star Game. He was drafted the same year 341 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: as Kirk Heinrich. 342 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 4: He hasn't played for fifteen years. 343 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: Heinrich. 344 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 3: Same with the next guy he's about to. 345 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: Do, Kendrick Perkins. He was drafted. It's not not he 346 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: played with Kendrick Perkins. He was drafted the same year 347 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 1: as Kendrick Perkins. Kendrick Perkins has been a commentator for 348 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: a decade, it feels. 349 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 5: Like, yeah, okay, I bet you he can't even dribble 350 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 5: the basketball anymore. I mean he could bows and say 351 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 5: he could barely dribble then, but like to an NBA level, 352 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 5: he could cross me up in a heartbeat. But like 353 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 5: like and I'm only saying that, like it's just so 354 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 5: how crazy because he hasn't played basketball in ten years? 355 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 1: Dude, is Kendrick Perkins? Like if you that, that's a 356 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 1: good point because if you look at what Kendrick Perkins 357 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: game looked like when he would was a rookiear like 358 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 1: a second or third year player, Like you'd be like, oh, wow, 359 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: Kendrick Perkins, Like I now now I see Like he 360 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 1: he was a threat. He was like, you know, really 361 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: athletic out there and like and if you compare that 362 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 1: to like what he looks like playing basketball now, you 363 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 1: would be like, these aren't the same people something that 364 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: you know, one hundred years have passed between these two 365 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: same with Luke. Walton also drafted the same year as 366 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 1: Lebron James Lebron James. 367 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 5: Luke coach against Lebron and one of those finals like 368 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 5: or or did he coach? 369 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 3: He coached Lebron. 370 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 5: He coached Lebron to the Lakers. 371 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, crazy, like years ago. He coached years ago. 372 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 4: Lebron has been with the Lakers for like six years. 373 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 1: What I'm making is like you look at like Luke Walton, 374 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 1: Kendrick Perkins, Kirk Heinrich in their second or third year, 375 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: they are you know that compared to right now, you'd 376 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,199 Speaker 1: be like, these are these different people, which is what 377 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: you'd expect that was a lifetime ago. Lebron James is 378 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:06,679 Speaker 1: better than he was when he was like in his 379 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: second year. 380 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 5: I feel like, oh yeah, yeah, he's a better basketball player. 381 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 4: Like how still athletically gifted? Which is still I mean. 382 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 1: Does you know dunks? That seem impossible to me? 383 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's crazy, man. 384 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: Kat seems old to me. Katie's six less All Star 385 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: Game appearances than Lebron. 386 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 2: Just a little bit of added on top of that. 387 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 2: The average NBA career is four and a half years. 388 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 2: Lebron has been a Laker for seventh seed. This is 389 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 2: the seventh season. They were saying he was done prior. 390 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 3: To even getting here, and this is year seven for 391 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 3: him here. 392 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you know, listen, I love a Lebron. 393 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:46,479 Speaker 4: I'm not. 394 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 5: I'm not a Lebron hater anymore in my life. I 395 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 5: haven't been since like twenty twenty one, proud of you 396 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 5: and even and even then even then, Like I haven't 397 00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,679 Speaker 5: been like a full blown Lebron hater since like two 398 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 5: thousand and eighteen. 399 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 1: And by the way, the very first piece of media 400 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 1: when I was starting, you know, the LA podcast network 401 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 1: that became like you know, the iHeart West Coast podcast, 402 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 1: and I was like, we got to do a podcast 403 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 1: with Jacquise and Carl Tart and Edgar. The first podcast 404 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: I listened to is you and Carl Tart arguing with 405 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 1: you being a Lebron. 406 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 4: Oh, I was a Lebron hater, baby. 407 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 8: Oh, if you made some hater ray from my hate, 408 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 8: it would be as thick as clay. 409 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 5: Slimy and things. But no, I love Lebron, man, I 410 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 5: love Lebron. He's he's he's goaded. But you know, let's 411 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 5: also be real, like, you know, there he has shown 412 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 5: moments where it's like, oh, yeah, Lebron has been playing 413 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 5: for twenty two years, right, and and so like I 414 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 5: have a question for y'all, do y'all obviously what the 415 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 5: All Star Game is is what the All Star Game is, 416 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 5: and like, he does deserve to be a starter because 417 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 5: simply because he's earned it, just like Jordan was the 418 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,400 Speaker 5: starter his last couple of All Star games, even though 419 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 5: he didn't earn it on the court, he earned it 420 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 5: with his legacy, right, So Lebron is there. I have 421 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 5: no problem with him being a starter. Obviously, if we 422 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 5: were just going off stats, Lebron Champs will not be 423 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 5: starting this game. 424 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 4: It's just a fan vote. 425 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 5: Do y'all think there is any in the past four 426 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 5: or five years, any All Star appearances that he's had 427 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 5: where he didn't even deserve to be an All Star 428 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 5: that year, not even a starter because like that, you know, 429 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 5: we get why he's the starter. It's a fan vote, 430 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 5: But like if it wasn't a fan vote, if it 431 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 5: was based on blah blah blah, are there any seasons 432 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,400 Speaker 5: where you're like, maybe he didn't deserve it that year 433 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 5: in the past like five six. 434 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 3: Years, It feels like it was a couple of years ago. 435 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 2: I think he had been out for an extended period 436 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,719 Speaker 2: of time, but you know, he got voted in by 437 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 2: the fans. YEA, there was probably an artis probably an 438 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,360 Speaker 2: argument at that point yeah, you know. 439 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 5: But not play wise, No, I mean you think he's 440 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 5: still like it's all star level player like every single season. 441 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 2: I think this is the first year like and this 442 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 2: is probably gonna get get going to get me in trouble. 443 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 2: But I think this is the first year where you 444 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 2: can you can say like, okay, it kind to the 445 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 2: point that you just made like, oh. 446 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 3: He is forty because you know. 447 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 2: There's some old man, you know, you know, stuff going 448 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 2: on at different times. 449 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 3: And once again, I am not knocking Lebron James. 450 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 2: The fact that he's in year twenty two is absolutely 451 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 2: absurd and I will always marvel at that. But yes, 452 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 2: there are different there are definitely some signs of Okay, 453 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 2: let's uh, let's keep him healthy for the list. 454 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 3: Let's try to do one more run with him more, 455 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 3: one more deep runt. 456 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is actually did you guys see this 457 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: chart where it had it was a gallop pole? I 458 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 1: believe ooh they picked presidents. Mm, so this is okay. Now, 459 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: this is sports Poll thirty years of intelligence. They asked 460 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: Americans what their favorite athlete was and then just have 461 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 1: it charted by who's number one in any giving year. 462 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: From nineteen ninety five to two thousand and six. The 463 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: answer is Michael Jordan. Yeah, okay, And then it's gone 464 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 1: by quarter, so uh six to two thousand and ten, 465 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: it's like late two thousand and nine, No, late so 466 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: six to late twenty ten. Wood, Oh yeah, sorry. 467 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 4: Sorry, no, no, it's okay, okay, all. 468 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 1: Right, well we'll go over all right. Next comes a 469 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: single quarter where it is a football. 470 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 4: Player, which is two thousand and ten. 471 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 1: Twenty ten a quarter in two thousand and ten. 472 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 5: Just twenty ten oh one quarterball and it's a football player. 473 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, is it? It can't be Tom Brady we all 474 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 4: hate him, is it? 475 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: You got it for a single three month period, it's 476 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning. He gets a couple three month periods later. 477 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 1: H Then there's three month where it is back to 478 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: an NBA player. That's not Michael Jordan, it's Kobe Yep. Yeah, 479 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: I would have never guessed Kobe. I would have assumed that. 480 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 3: That would that Celtics in the final second. 481 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, that Kobe was like, you know, oh that we 482 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 5: appreciate you as a player. 483 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 4: Now that it goes. 484 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 8: Back to Jordan for another three years, that's purely lebron hey, bro, 485 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 8: because I would have voted for think. 486 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 1: About it in twenty eleven, twenty eleven through twenty like 487 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:37,360 Speaker 1: mid twenty thirteen, that's the number one most popular favorite 488 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: pro athlete. And like granted, so in the height of 489 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 1: his career, it was like twenty percent of people all 490 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 1: have the same favorite athlete, and then like once it 491 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,919 Speaker 1: becomes Tiger, it's like in the like seven percent of 492 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: people have the same favorite athlete. So now we're back 493 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: to Jordan and it's like down around six seven percent 494 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 1: where Michael Jordan is people's favorite athletes. Trades back and 495 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: forth between Jordan and Peyton Manning, but it's mostly until 496 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. It becomes another a different current NBA player 497 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: again in twenty sixteen. 498 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 4: I mean I would say, I would say it's Steph. 499 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: It's Steph for one quarter and that's it for the 500 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 1: entirety of the whole thing. He gets it for one quarter. 501 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 1: That's just shocking to me. Then it goes back to 502 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: Jordans for three quarters. 503 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 8: Come on, that Lebron Hayte was pure man, that was 504 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 8: pure in twenty seventeen. 505 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 1: In twenty seventeen, it becomes Lebron James. Yeah, yeah, when 506 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: he wins the title with Cleveland. Yeah. 507 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's when a lot of Lebron hater's 508 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:48,199 Speaker 5: leg was like, you know what, yes, yeah, right, what 509 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 5: else is there to hate now? 510 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: Wait? 511 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 2: Actually momentarily him in twenty seventeen when people were mad 512 00:26:55,480 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 2: that a KD had joined Stephan Oh, because he won 513 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 2: it in twenty sixteen and it was still Jordan, So 514 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 2: they gave him one quarter just because they were mad 515 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 2: about about the KD stuff connection. 516 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that they give him one quarter, then three 517 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:15,360 Speaker 1: more Jordan, then Lebron for three quarters, so he has 518 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: it for a total of a year. Then it goes 519 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: to somebody whose name you've already mentioned, a football player, 520 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: Tom Brady. Tom Brady in twenty nineteen for a quarter 521 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: that I could see that a little bit, and then 522 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,439 Speaker 1: another two straight years of Michael Jordan. 523 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 4: This, I love this, so it's unbelievable. 524 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: And then back and forth between Brady and Jordan, and 525 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:38,239 Speaker 1: then it's Brady like twenty two through twenty three, it's Brady, uh, 526 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 1: then Jordan for like still last year for uh two quarters, 527 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 1: and then Messi gets it for a single quarter of 528 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: all of which to say, Michael Jordan remains king like 529 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: it's unbelievable how popular he is and always has been. 530 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: But also like I mean, look at who, like you know, 531 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: Lebron kd Are are you know, players who are still 532 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: great but they've you know, people like who they grew 533 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: up with. Like that's gonna be a thing for a 534 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 1: long time. And everybody's like, oh, the NBA is like 535 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: hard because like they don't have stars that are as 536 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: popular coming up, Like you know, Lebron wasn't as popular 537 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: coming up, but now he's the guy. It's still not 538 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 1: as popular as I mean, Jordan is like people have 539 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: a religious relationship with they do. 540 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 5: I mean, you know, listen, here's the thing that's interesting 541 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 5: to me is if Lebron were to say, like this 542 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 5: is my last year and did a retirement tour, Lebron 543 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 5: would be the most popular player on the planet of 544 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 5: any sport. And I think that would extend for you know, 545 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 5: a few years even after he retired, because Lebron does 546 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 5: do a lot of things, like he'll probably go to Hollywood, 547 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 5: He'll probably you know, so Lebron will have his hands 548 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 5: in a lot of cookie jars of popularity. It's just 549 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 5: he's been doing it so long and it's just like 550 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 5: when is he gonna stop? But I think people, even 551 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 5: though he only got one quarter in there, which is 552 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 5: crazy to me, I think people underestimate how much of 553 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 5: a thorn in Lebron's career Steph Curry was and still 554 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 5: is to a degree, like that stretch where they played 555 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 5: each other five straight seasons in the finals or three 556 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 5: or four straight seasons, whatever it was. And then also 557 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 5: just like Steph's popularity even though like Steph isn't like 558 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 5: Lebron James popular like Steph is. Basketball fans get mad 559 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 5: at me when I say this. Lebron James is obviously 560 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 5: the goat of his era from two thousand and three 561 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 5: to now, he's the goat. But Steph Curry changed the 562 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 5: game way more than Lebron did, Like in my opinion, 563 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 5: like he like you, Steph Curry literally changed basketball where 564 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 5: on all levels where you have eight year old shooting 565 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 5: three point shots, you know, like and that's not that's 566 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 5: not taken away from Lebron. Lebron which was just doing 567 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 5: things that we had seen already. He was just doing 568 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 5: them at an exceptional like level that nobody has seen 569 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 5: from those skills. But like Curry was like changing the game. 570 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 5: So like Curry, and Curry also is now what sixteen 571 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 5: seventeen seasons now and still playing. He's also a starter, 572 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 5: still playing at the top of his level. Yeah, like 573 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 5: these players occurred. Jordan played thirteen seasons with the Bulls. 574 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 5: We don't count the Wizard years. He played thirteen seasons 575 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 5: with the Bulls, two of which were not full seasons, 576 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 5: and he was icing his knees by ninety five. 577 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, like that was it. That was his career. 578 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 5: Eleven seasons and two half season, Like that was his career. 579 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 3: He can't get his ground Jordan Era. He can't get 580 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 3: that love. 581 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 4: He can get. 582 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 5: I mean, look, if he wouldn't have got injured, I 583 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 5: think those Wizards would have made the playoffs both years 584 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 5: because he was still doing good. I know, like we 585 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 5: frowned on those Wizards years. But like a lot of 586 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 5: people don't like to acknowledge that a lot of the 587 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 5: down time of those Wizards years was after he got 588 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 5: injured and he was a forty year old man who 589 00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 5: had taken two two to three year breaks in his career. 590 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: So like I'm gonna get documentary about the Wizards years coming, 591 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: you know, like something's gonna be like Actually, when you 592 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: look back at it, like though he was incredible, what 593 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: he was doing was wild because he was he was 594 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: still twenty. 595 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 5: He was still with about twenty bro. I guess all 596 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 5: these young players who like didn't respect him anymore. 597 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: How old was Jordan when he was with the Wizards 598 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: forty one? 599 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, like forty and forty one. 600 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: So this this year of Lebron's see of Lebron's career. 601 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, with but he also took like three years off 602 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 5: so he had to get back in basketball shape. 603 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. 604 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 5: And also it was the nineties and early two thousands. 605 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 5: Technology was put some ice on your knees. Yeah, now 606 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 5: you know players have science behind their health. 607 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, where are you gonna say, just say, actually, thirty 608 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 2: eight thirty nine. 609 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: Thirty eight thirty nine, we've already had. We've already had 610 00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 1: Lebron's seasons that were the Wizards years. The hate for Laura, 611 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: I mean it's just Jordan came first. I mean they're 612 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: like he changed how everybody thought about basketball. I get it, 613 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: but I'm just saying like that what Lebron is doing 614 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: is so ridiculous, Like he's already been through the Wizards 615 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: years and is still doing it like took dragged the 616 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: Lakers to the Western Conference Finals in all of the 617 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: Wayne's years. 618 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 5: Talk to me when Lebron, when Lebron James go back 619 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 5: in time and play two years in college, talk to 620 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 5: me when he go play for the Cleveland Indians farm team, 621 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 5: and talk to me when you take a couple of 622 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 5: years off. Indeed, yeah, he should have. 623 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 1: Done all those things. To the point, that's actually a 624 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: really good point. 625 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 4: Talk tell me how great he is. 626 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, actually I'm never gonna talk about this again 627 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: until that happens. All right, let's take a quick break 628 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: and and we'll come back with my don't look now 629 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: of the week. And we're back, and I mean, just 630 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 1: closing out the All Star thing real quick. Wemby would 631 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: have liked to see him a starter, But he'll be 632 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: in there, and would have liked to see him a starter. 633 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 1: He'll be in there well, you know, once the coaches 634 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: are added in, and then they'll be split into three 635 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 1: teams and playing a single elimination tournament against the winners 636 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: of the Rising Stars Challenge. I'm not sure how it 637 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: all is gonna work. It's gonna be interesting, but yeah, 638 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 1: just around the league, Bucks are playing well. They're in 639 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: the fourth fourth seed at the moment. Pacers went from 640 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: a nine to fourteen start to twenty five and twenty 641 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: now five games over five hundred, So look out for 642 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: the Central Division. 643 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, every team but the Bulls. 644 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: Maybe the Bulls started out looking. 645 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 5: Yeah looking at you know, I mean I think they 646 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,959 Speaker 5: I think they will still make the play in and 647 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,280 Speaker 5: then you know, probably lose the first game and go home. 648 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 5: But you know, yeah, we are who we are. 649 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: You are the second most three point attempts of any 650 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: team this year, behind the Boston Celtics. 651 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,800 Speaker 4: Just more proof why the three is dead. 652 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: And then just the other big question is like where 653 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 1: is Jimmy Butler headed. He's now been suspended for a 654 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: third time by the Miami Heat, and. 655 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,320 Speaker 5: He's suspended for the season right with the Heat at least, 656 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 5: And definitely, yeah, and definitely you think they're gonna you 657 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 5: think they're gonna trade him more punish him by keeping 658 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 5: him there. 659 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 4: He obviously don't want to be there. 660 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels like it would be smarter to have 661 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 1: something on your team via a trade than not. 662 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 5: But I don't know, I could see him keeping Jimmy 663 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 5: Butler there for the entire season, truly out of spite. 664 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,839 Speaker 1: We would take him. We would take him and give 665 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 1: you the seventy six ers, would take him and give 666 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,240 Speaker 1: you Paul George. Just so I will speak on behalf 667 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: of the seventy six ers organization. 668 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 3: F y, they need you to speak on behalf. 669 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 5: The Bulls will take you, take them and give you 670 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 5: one of our statues outside of the United Center. 671 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 3: They can get the Jordan statue. 672 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: What so you got Jordan's, You got Eddie Curry? Yeah? 673 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 5: They you have no We're keeping Eddie Curry. Man, you 674 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 5: can't come on that Chicago kid keeping Curry. 675 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:31,840 Speaker 4: You can have Jordan's. 676 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 1: All right, we will take them. But I have no 677 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 1: idea what's what's going to happen there. I don't look 678 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 1: now of the week, Oh you know, I'd really love 679 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: to give it to these Lakers, winners of six of seven, 680 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,479 Speaker 1: just a game behind the Nuggets for the fourth seed 681 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 1: in the Western Conference. Uh, connect is connecting, connects starting 682 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: to starting to make from deep. AD's last four games 683 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 1: have been bunk bron Is, you know, double digit assists 684 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 1: and three of the last four Vanderbilt, Who's always been 685 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 1: my X factor, just by the fact that he never 686 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 1: plays is finally back playing again. Like having a perimeter 687 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 1: defender like Vanderbilt and then Davis behind him makes the 688 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 1: Lakers pretty scary. But I gotta give it to the Rockets. 689 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 1: They beat the Celtics. I mean, I guess you both 690 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,840 Speaker 1: beat the Celtics, but the Rockets beat Boston in Boston. 691 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 1: Now thirty one and fourteen on the year, two games 692 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 1: up on the Grizzlies, staying with him range of the thunder. 693 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 1: It's so wild how good they are. I'm in toxin 694 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 1: hit the game winner in Boston. So I mean, it's 695 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 1: just it's too much fun. It's too much fun right 696 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 1: now for the Rockets. I gotta give it to them. 697 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 1: The official Jack O'Brien, don't look now, the official. 698 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say if I was, if I was 699 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 5: to have one of those don't look now, I would 700 00:36:58,320 --> 00:36:59,760 Speaker 5: say it's the Milwaukee Bucks. 701 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. 702 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:05,360 Speaker 5: You know, eight wins out of the last ten. You know, 703 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 5: after all the talk about like Doc Rivers it was 704 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,800 Speaker 5: actually worse for the team and everything like that, which 705 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,439 Speaker 5: you know, I can understand why that conversation was being had, 706 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 5: but you know, they are turning it around, and you 707 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 5: know they still got Giannis, who's still top five player 708 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 5: in the NBA right now, especially if he's on, he's 709 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:33,839 Speaker 5: very unstoppable. And the team looks they look they look 710 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 5: like they can make some noise in the East and 711 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 5: get up there to the top three and and you know, 712 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 5: be a problem for any team they play. So yeah, 713 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 5: I would say the Bucks are looking looking pretty hot 714 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:44,399 Speaker 5: right now too. 715 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, looking hot hot looks out of Noah. 716 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,240 Speaker 3: If I had one of those, I would choose a Lakers. 717 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 3: But you know that's you. 718 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 1: That doesn't that doesn't sound like the It is the 719 00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 1: rabbit fire round of questioning. Yeah, we throw a bunch 720 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,280 Speaker 1: of questions that you you gotta choose the right answer. 721 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 1: There are right answers, uh, and there are wrong answers. 722 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,439 Speaker 1: And there's a chance that we might try and throw 723 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:14,320 Speaker 1: you off your game a little bit or just off topic. Okay, 724 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 1: you just gotta just gotta not let us do that, Okay, 725 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 1: or you can, it doesn't really matter. Brian, start the clock. 726 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 1: Thank you, Brian. All Right, we're gonna open it up 727 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:32,280 Speaker 1: with this or that. Brought to you by super producer 728 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 1: Jabari Davis. These are imaginary, create your own players that 729 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,799 Speaker 1: are a lot of fun Jabari, you kick it off, 730 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 1: I'll come go back and forth. 731 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,719 Speaker 2: I got you, okay, yeah, yeah, all right, So you 732 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 2: have this or that, who would be the more dominant player, 733 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:52,240 Speaker 2: Magic with Jordan's athleticism or Jordan at. 734 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:57,400 Speaker 4: Six foot nine, Magic with Jordan's athleticism. 735 00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean yeah, because then it's what are you 736 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 3: gonna do? 737 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 5: It? 738 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 3: Said? 739 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, because what else Jordan's gonna do with six nine? 740 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:07,839 Speaker 5: He was already dunking on people. He's not much else 741 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,360 Speaker 5: he was not is anything that he would do that 742 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 5: he wasn't already. 743 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 1: That's fine, I gotta go. Jordan to sixth nine really unfortunate. 744 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it changes his game a little bit. 745 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,799 Speaker 1: Maybe, Yeah, I mean that's true. So I guess that's 746 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 1: the question, Like does he become six nine and then 747 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,280 Speaker 1: he like comes in the league as a post player 748 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 1: or something like yeah, yeah, they're like this guy, this 749 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,800 Speaker 1: guy can really bang in the paint. 750 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, Or is he six nine and he's exactly the 751 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:40,320 Speaker 5: same Jordan, He's. 752 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 1: Exactly the same at six nine, only three extras. 753 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,919 Speaker 3: He becomes the. 754 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 1: Best I mean he might already be. He's probably the 755 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 1: best perimeter defender, but like he. 756 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 4: Becomes Lebron, he becomes so with Jordan's he's. 757 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,840 Speaker 3: Jordan slash a Kim at that point. 758 00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:01,240 Speaker 5: Yeah and maybe maybe, Yeah, I guess I was thinking 759 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 5: of it, like, you know what else, what could he 760 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:04,880 Speaker 5: not do? But you give him three extra inches and 761 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:10,799 Speaker 5: now with that fade away, uh and yeah, I don't know, 762 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 5: that's a good question. I already locked in, so you know, 763 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 5: black Man don't cheat, so I'm not gonna change not 764 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:17,920 Speaker 5: change up. 765 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 1: Next we got Ai with Mike's height or Kobe with 766 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 1: Steph's jumper. Ooh, that's good. 767 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:27,280 Speaker 4: I think. 768 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,799 Speaker 5: I think I would say Ai with with who's height 769 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 5: Jordan's height? Yeah six, so like so like five six 770 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,440 Speaker 5: extra inches because we know whatever his listed height was, 771 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 5: he was only six foot. Yeah, yeah, I would say 772 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:47,080 Speaker 5: Ai with Jordan's height would be interesting because like he 773 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 5: probably gets injured less because it's bigger, because he's bigger 774 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 5: because he played a style where it's like you're too 775 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 5: small to play this style, but he was just so good, 776 00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 5: So he probably gets injured less and like his jumper 777 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 5: probably becomes better versus Kobe, like with the stuff jumper, Like. 778 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:06,800 Speaker 4: It would be dope. 779 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,319 Speaker 5: It would be dope, But like, do we really need 780 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 5: Kobe going from forty shots a game to sixty because. 781 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:16,280 Speaker 1: He was like, I'm gonna say, whoever, whichever one you picked, 782 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:21,439 Speaker 1: the one point barrier has been broken routinely by that point. 783 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 1: On average, they're putting up so many shots. 784 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:27,400 Speaker 4: They're putting shots. 785 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 2: Bro, if you gave Kobe's steps jumper, I think he 786 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 2: honestly really would average like fifty shots like every single 787 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,719 Speaker 2: like like not not being hyperbolic. 788 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, there would be no like you thought he didn't 789 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 5: pass the ball before, Kobe would not have passed. Kobe 790 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 5: would have passed to himself every single player. 791 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, this is the best option, all right, keeping. 792 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,279 Speaker 1: It going, ball ball, ball ball. 793 00:41:54,480 --> 00:42:00,360 Speaker 2: Yah. He wakes up screaming it all right. One for 794 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 2: you of this type, it's a Keen with Shack's power 795 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 2: or Shack with the Chem's agility and handle. 796 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,920 Speaker 4: Does Shack still have his power? That's the same thing, man, 797 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,279 Speaker 4: because one of them. 798 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 3: Like, that's a good point. I'll take transfers to Shack, 799 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,919 Speaker 3: transfers to a Keem's power and a Gill. 800 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,360 Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, that's a good point though. I mean I 801 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:27,279 Speaker 4: guess I would go a Keem with Man the dream shape. 802 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, with dream Quake. 803 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:33,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, and the King was a better shooter, yeah, kind 804 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,160 Speaker 5: of than Shack is or was. 805 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,440 Speaker 4: But like that's the thing, like Shack is not even. 806 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:42,239 Speaker 5: Offensively, because offensively, Shaq and the King both dominated and 807 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,799 Speaker 5: were great, and they just had different Shack's footwork was great. 808 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:46,880 Speaker 5: I think people don't give him enough credit for his footwork. 809 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,440 Speaker 5: That's why he was so good. It's just like a 810 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:53,799 Speaker 5: King was way better defensively. Yeah, uh so, which you know, 811 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,719 Speaker 5: which is why he was able to stop Shack so 812 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 5: much when they played. And you know those championship years, especially. 813 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:04,480 Speaker 1: Keem Wash size is kind of MBI like, okay, you know, 814 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:08,880 Speaker 1: like it's kind of yeah similar, yeah, but now it 815 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 1: will go yeah yeah, but the body you have issues 816 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:16,839 Speaker 1: with getting injured in that case. All right, you can 817 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,319 Speaker 1: make any finals matchup, Jakeith, utilizing all finals teams from 818 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,480 Speaker 1: throughout history. What is the matchup you would want to 819 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:27,000 Speaker 1: see more than any other? Oh, for example, ninety six 820 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 1: Bulls verse eighteen Warriors, ninety six Bulls versus you know, 821 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,920 Speaker 1: the heat the heatles. Who are you going with? 822 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:41,279 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean if the Warriors would have won the 823 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 5: championship this year, this would be the easiest question. It 824 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,799 Speaker 5: would be the ninety five ninety six Bulls versus that 825 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:52,480 Speaker 5: twenty fifteen sixteen Warriors team, the two best regular season 826 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:58,120 Speaker 5: teams in history. But since they biffed the bed, they 827 00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,200 Speaker 5: are taken out of that ekway. I think I would 828 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 5: still go ninety five ninety six Bulls seventy to ten 829 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:09,759 Speaker 5: with the ring and oh there are two teams that 830 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,279 Speaker 5: I would want to see them against. I think I 831 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:18,320 Speaker 5: will want to see them against that twenty thirteen fourteen 832 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,000 Speaker 5: Heat team. 833 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that you get the vers Lebron. 834 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,080 Speaker 5: Get Jordan versus Lebron. You get Jordan versus like I 835 00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:30,480 Speaker 5: got something to prove Lebron. Yeah, that would be that 836 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:31,719 Speaker 5: would be a fun matchup. 837 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 1: I think that's the right answer. 838 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,960 Speaker 5: I think that's the one, Like I guess I would 839 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,319 Speaker 5: go if if it wasn't that, I would go with like, yeah, 840 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:42,719 Speaker 5: those twenty that first KD title with the Warriors first 841 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,920 Speaker 5: or second, really to be honest with you, and it 842 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,600 Speaker 5: would be, but it would be mostly just out of 843 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,759 Speaker 5: pettiness in spite, like I would just want to show 844 00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:52,480 Speaker 5: people like, oh, yeah, like that Brandon basketball, like the 845 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,240 Speaker 5: Bulls Brandon basketball was better. 846 00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, but. 847 00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:59,080 Speaker 5: But as far as like prime teams and like matchups 848 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 5: and everything like that, that I think that heat that 849 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,279 Speaker 5: he Bulls would be. 850 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:08,640 Speaker 1: It's fair Bulls. Oh one, Lakers is also very intriguing. 851 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,080 Speaker 1: I just I don't want to see the Bulls lose. 852 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:17,839 Speaker 1: Then having having Shack going against Luke lonely, you know. 853 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 4: I mean Robin, he would go against rob Ye. 854 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,359 Speaker 5: I think that would be the match up because Luke 855 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:29,120 Speaker 5: Luke would be barbecue chicken baby. 856 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 4: Although Luke did okay against Jack like. 857 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,799 Speaker 5: Look, Luke did like his thing against Shaq like as 858 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,719 Speaker 5: well as he could have the Australian brute that he 859 00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:40,200 Speaker 5: was right. 860 00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:41,080 Speaker 3: I think he had it right. 861 00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,520 Speaker 2: Luke would have been okay, maybe not barbecue chicken trip 862 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:48,000 Speaker 2: on the barbie then Barbie. 863 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:50,920 Speaker 3: Last one for you. Game of the week. You've got 864 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:54,000 Speaker 3: a choice. Friday night there's two different games at. 865 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:59,040 Speaker 2: Bucks at Spurs or Sons at Warriors. Saturday night you 866 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,880 Speaker 2: got Lakers at n and then Sunday you got Books 867 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:07,120 Speaker 2: at Nicks. Excuse me, no, you got Grizzlies at Books. 868 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,239 Speaker 4: Okay, Lakers. Knicks is in New York. 869 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:15,320 Speaker 5: That is I couldn't And then we'll go on Lakers 870 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:21,279 Speaker 5: Knicks in Madison Square Garden Lebron and MSG and think, uh, 871 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,839 Speaker 5: you know that's a hard matchup to that's a hard 872 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,600 Speaker 5: matchup to be as far as storyline and Lebron and 873 00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:28,600 Speaker 5: New York and you don't know how many more these 874 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:33,719 Speaker 5: you got. Obviously you know we think he'll at least 875 00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,360 Speaker 5: play again next year. But you know, Lebron could say, like, 876 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,000 Speaker 5: I think I'm retiring and this could be the last 877 00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:42,400 Speaker 5: ever time he's at MSG, So like, I think, I 878 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,160 Speaker 5: think that's the matchup of the week right there. 879 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:48,680 Speaker 1: All right, you've chosen correctly on every every question and 880 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,239 Speaker 1: specifically with that game of the week. Good good call, 881 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 1: Jaquith Neil, What a great guest, What a great job 882 00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:58,160 Speaker 1: by you. Where where can people find you? Follow you 883 00:46:58,200 --> 00:46:58,840 Speaker 1: all that concern? 884 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,759 Speaker 5: Oh you can find me in the halls of the 885 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:08,040 Speaker 5: United Center, crying and begging the guys for another Bulls 886 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:13,160 Speaker 5: Championship has been When the Cubs won in twenty sixteen, 887 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:19,000 Speaker 5: the memes were I not bulls and Bears in a 888 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,200 Speaker 5: couple of decades now bulls and bears. 889 00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:22,920 Speaker 4: So you can find me there. 890 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:26,520 Speaker 5: You can also find me at Jackie Sneil on all 891 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:30,000 Speaker 5: social media or my website Jackieysneil dot com. A lot 892 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,840 Speaker 5: of dope stuff coming down to Pipe, so you know, 893 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:33,840 Speaker 5: check it out there. 894 00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,279 Speaker 1: Check them out. I'm on Twitter at jack Underscore O. 895 00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,400 Speaker 1: Brian Miles is there at Miles of Gray. I'm on 896 00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,360 Speaker 1: Blue Sky at jack ob and the number one Miles 897 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,240 Speaker 1: is there at Miles of Gray. He's better at social 898 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:49,439 Speaker 1: media than me and we are hashtag mat boost bees 899 00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:53,160 Speaker 1: on the socials for show links and updates, and be 900 00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:56,160 Speaker 1: sure to join the conversation on our discord. 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