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Speaker 3: Okay, pardon me.

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Speaker 4: I was having an offire conversation with Jason that I'll

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Speaker 4: never be able to preako.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad I inspired this kind of discourse.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, why would you do?

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Speaker 2: We're having important conversations out.

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Speaker 1: There, you know, to us.

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Speaker 4: Okay, all right, I don't know how to write turn

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Speaker 4: from that. Luckily they couldn't hear what we were talking about.

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Speaker 4: But last night was the Holy Event. Mother did her

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Speaker 4: very first podcast ever, which is crazy.

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Speaker 2: Pope was doing a mask. Nobody went it was crazy.

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Speaker 2: Nobody showed up.

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Speaker 3: Where was I wonder?

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Speaker 2: Yesterday he was letting people come in from the heat.

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Speaker 2: He was just trying to get like an audience. Oh okay, well,

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Speaker 2: I guess. I guess normally he does something where like

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Speaker 2: I've not been to the Vatican, but he'll go and

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Speaker 2: everyone's out in the quick. I've never been a Vatican No, No,

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Speaker 2: I mean about the I'm serious.

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Speaker 1: I've never been a lot of people have not. You know,

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Speaker 2: I've not reached my holy land there.

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Speaker 1: Can are you being serious?

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Speaker 3: No, I'm not about the part where you were on any.

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Speaker 2: Kind of mission or pilgrimage. No, I haven't yet. No,

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Speaker 2: but he does. I guess he'll stand up on a

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Speaker 2: little balcony and he does a thing. But it was

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Speaker 2: ninety five degrees in Italy, so he was welcoming people

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Speaker 2: into the church and was like cycling them through so

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Speaker 2: that everyone could be you know, hear his message. Well also,

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Speaker 2: you know, being not as hot. This is why, because

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Speaker 2: he realized if he didn't do that, nobody was going

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Speaker 2: to come yesterday. You could have probably met the Pope

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Speaker 2: shook his hand, because everybody was too busy watching Taylor

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Speaker 2: Swift or trying to make sure their technology was updated.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we got to talk about technology. But I thought

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Speaker 4: I thought the Pope was having a screening in there,

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Speaker 4: so that I thought that's why everyone was going.

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Speaker 2: Oh, like, everyone's coming to see him, and that would

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Speaker 2: have been very related. I would have made my pilgrimage

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Speaker 2: then if you could have said Vatican and Taylor Swift

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Speaker 2: and the Pope, Pope Leo all at the same time.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm busy, Oh.

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Speaker 3: Dream blunt rotation. But you know, just kidding, all right.

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Speaker 4: So during the New Heights podcast, let's get like, let's

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Speaker 4: get this stuff out of the way.

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Speaker 3: That like we have to.

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Speaker 4: Of course, she announced her twelve studio album, The Life

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Speaker 4: of a show Girl. She showed us the cover. I

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Speaker 4: love the cover. Jason's going to like join in on

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Speaker 4: this report because he's as big of a swifty as

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Speaker 4: I am.

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Speaker 3: Sure, what do we think about the cover?

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Speaker 5: I love it, and I love the alternative covers too,

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Speaker 5: especially though I don't know if it's a cover, but

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Speaker 5: the one where she's kind of got her leg up

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Speaker 5: and the diamond like she's yeah, it's looking it's getting naked.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, naughty girl on the theme is like old school

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Speaker 4: Vegas show girl, but it's more about her life when

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Speaker 4: she gets off the stage. It's a short album for

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Speaker 4: her twelve songs. It's gonna be pop music, so Fred's

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Speaker 4: gonna be happy. Max Martin is back, who's just a genius,

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Speaker 4: worked on the Backstreet Boys some of their biggest songs.

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Speaker 3: So she called it her Lightning in a bottle result,

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Speaker 3: and we are getting.

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Speaker 4: That on October third, aka thirteen with a zero in

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Speaker 4: for a living. I don't want to do math anymore,

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Speaker 4: but she's still.

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Speaker 3: Making us do that.

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Speaker 4: Okay, let's get into the podcast. So I feel like

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Speaker 4: the biggest It was two hours.

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Speaker 3: It was two hours.

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Speaker 4: Then I guess a lot of people thought it was

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Speaker 3: However, YouTube crashed and.

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Speaker 2: I was sitting over here going one hour of one

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Speaker 1: It was nine. Yes, you're doing numerology.

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Speaker 2: Like, wait, nine nine and a half still not wait

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Speaker 2: where does thirteen come in?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, poor Jason Kelsey didn't understand numerology. That was tough

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Speaker 4: for him to understand. But but I was adding that

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Speaker 3: But yes, YouTube crash.

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Speaker 4: So if you were not listening on the iHeartRadio app,

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Speaker 4: then you did not get the last portion of that

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Speaker 4: they kissed and there's a whole thing. I believe they

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Speaker 4: have it up now. I feel like the headlines and

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Speaker 4: you know, add in if you have anything, Jason, were

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Speaker 4: things that should we never hear her talk about, so

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Speaker 4: in terms of re recording her music and like that

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Speaker 4: process and then buying her master's back that was a

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Speaker 4: I feel like we do.

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Speaker 5: Oh yes, you're super open about that, like their first

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Speaker 1: I was shocked and.

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Speaker 4: Me too, and he admitted that he really fell for

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Speaker 4: we have a clip of him describing what it was

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Speaker 6: Yeah, as much as you and I've told you this

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Speaker 1: I give the airs to her credit. Yeah, I give

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Speaker 6: Because if I would have never gone to that show

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Speaker 6: I would have never went on here and told everybody

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Speaker 6: how about hurt I was. Yeah, I'd never It's just

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Speaker 1: I really the best things about that last statement is

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Speaker 1: you didn't even know what the word in golf meant before,

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Speaker 1: Like you met Taylor, like this is you brought into

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Speaker 6: Fun were the perfect I'm telling you, so she makes

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Speaker 3: Thank you for saying that.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for saying that.

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Speaker 6: And then but it's like you see you on the

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Speaker 6: stage and you see how crazy you can get an

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Speaker 6: entire stadium going, and then I get you in a

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Speaker 6: it was just the easiest conversation I ever had, and

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Speaker 6: it was just so much fun that it just it

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Speaker 1: Off from what they say, locked yourself off. Yeah, thank you,

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Speaker 1: that's I think right.

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Speaker 6: And I had I had never experienced something so mesmerizing

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Speaker 7: Hey, yeah, I honestly everyone should leave.

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Speaker 4: She was looking at him like, Okay, he is fine.

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Speaker 4: He's so fine. And I love the way he described it.

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Speaker 4: I loved their dynamic. We never got to see their

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Speaker 4: dumber than he was, which I hate that he does that,

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Speaker 4: but she kept calling him out.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's such like a man, like a straight

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Speaker 5: bad but didn't follow any of the proper channels to

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Speaker 5: actually like, didn't reach out to her management, no one

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Speaker 5: on her team. He thought he was just gonna walk

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Speaker 5: And then he got mad after that he didn't meet

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Speaker 2: Wow, saves me to my next point. Jason, Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 2: a little that was a beautiful little Uh, little soliloquy.

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Speaker 2: It was a beautiful little speech, but I'm skeptical. I

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Speaker 2: don't think he felt all that. I think he wanted

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but he did not.

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Speaker 3: He did not.

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Speaker 2: He was not out of body when he went to

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Speaker 2: think he's figured all this stuff out. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 2: initially he wanted to meet her because she said her swift,

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Speaker 2: she's hot, right, and then I wanted to get to

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Speaker 2: know your soul. No, he wanted to be her and

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Speaker 2: he was butt hurt beat at the time. We all

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Speaker 2: remember the clips. Oh yeah, Jason just made the best.

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Speaker 2: He was butt hurt because he was denied. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: this was because the love of his life. He was

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Speaker 2: being blocked by the elevator.

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Speaker 3: Didn't even try. It was like ridiculous, and I love that.

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Speaker 4: But you said after you saw her that it was

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Speaker 2: No everything, audience, all that, he said a lot of

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Speaker 2: what Taylor Swift can do. I've always been amazed by

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Speaker 2: what Taylor Swift can do. The first time I ever

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Speaker 2: saw her, I'm just like, how on earth she's just standing.

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Speaker 3: By her beauty?

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Speaker 2: Well, I do think she's pretty, but it wasn't even that.

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Speaker 1: It's not that.

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Speaker 2: It's like she was standing there talking about the Turkey's

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Speaker 2: sandwhich she ate for lunch, and eighty thousand people are

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Speaker 2: are Our tears are like streaming on and they're completely silent,

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Speaker 2: hanging on to every single word and breath that comes.

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Speaker 1: Out of her mouth. I preventally the.

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Speaker 2: Last time I saw it was at a cult meeting.

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Speaker 2: It was crazy, and I'm just I'm watching this going like,

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Speaker 2: this is truly amazing. And I'm being sincere when I

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Speaker 2: say that. I just don't buy that. The initial reason

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Speaker 2: for him wanting to meet her was because he was

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Speaker 2: so captivated by your soul.

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Speaker 4: But he knew she was years before because he talked

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Speaker 4: about her in interviews years before.

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Speaker 1: So I think it was like a growing thing.

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Speaker 5: I think, like you agree with her there, and then

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Speaker 5: I saw her just like anyone else that goes to

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Speaker 5: that show, you're I agree, you know, get amnesia about how.

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Speaker 4: And for sure, other highlight for me was hearing about

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Speaker 3: To and I'm going too long, so I will end

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Speaker 2: But I don't think you can go too long too.

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Speaker 2: I don't think you can. Today's your day case.

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Speaker 3: I'm having a great time.

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Speaker 4: She talked about how when she wanted to buy back

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Speaker 4: her Masters from Shamrock, she was like, Okay, this is

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Speaker 4: like my life's work. This is also photos, this is

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Speaker 4: no lawyers, no nothing.

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Speaker 3: I am sending my mom and my brother.

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Speaker 4: And while they do work with her, she sent them

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Speaker 4: able to buy them back. Shamrock did not have to

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Speaker 4: sell them to her because that would have been their

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Speaker 4: money maker for the rest of their you know, however

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Speaker 4: long and I showed that I did fine, for sure,

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Speaker 4: I want to it in perpetuity, and she described it

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Speaker 4: to me, going, well, just to me, this is.

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Speaker 2: What I mean. This is what I mean, is that

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Speaker 2: Taylor has this way of making feel people feel like

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Speaker 2: she's talking to them, like singling out people in crowds

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Speaker 2: of gazillions. It's a really amazing quality. It really is.

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Speaker 2: It's God given or something. It's it's yeah, otherworldly, it is.

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Speaker 4: But she did say like, okay, imagine like I die

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Speaker 4: and like someone else owns my all of my life's work,

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Speaker 4: and then they can leave it to their family members

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Speaker 4: in their will. She's like, I don't think that that

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Speaker 4: part's right, Like you can negotiate after a certain amount

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Speaker 3: So I thought that was interesting.

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Speaker 4: And then of course her hiding in a mop cart

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Speaker 4: out on stage in a mop cleaning cart. So you

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Speaker 4: can if you want more of this, because I'm and

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Speaker 4: I go for hours and hours type the French showon

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Speaker 2: No, it was it was all very interesting, and I agree.

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Speaker 2: think that they you know, they were allowed. But there,

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Speaker 2: you made a good point. I saw a few edits too.

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Speaker 2: that she went too far with Like that's amazing to

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Speaker 4: I think that she very much wants to control the

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Speaker 3: And it was such a big but.

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Speaker 2: You may never see her speak that freely ever.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think you would not give that to

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Speaker 5: a regular news Yeah, exactly, exactly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah you mean talking about sourdough for twenty minutes.

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Speaker 5: But if you also notice, like the editing, he kept

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Speaker 5: I was like, yes, you get that back. You don't

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Speaker 5: get any other brand in the same shot as you, Taylor.

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Speaker 1: Without a check reaching over, and he would go right

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Speaker 3: Okay, I was like these drunk cuts.

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Speaker 5: He kept drinking things, and of course like she is

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Speaker 5: no brand deal here.

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Speaker 1: You're not gonna get me with the you know water.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I love them together, I always have.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I don't know this savvy story he tells.

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Speaker 2: And now you were a jock and you wanted what

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Speaker 1: She cried about it.

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Speaker 3: He did, yeah, and it all.

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Speaker 2: Worked out very well for you, which means I need

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Speaker 2: to start crying more.

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Speaker 3: She said, crying. You don't know. You should use this platform,

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Speaker 2: To and it sometimes works, but then I got out.

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Speaker 2: I stopped using this platform to to enunciate any interest

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Speaker 2: I had in dating. You know, I got misquoted and

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Speaker 2: maybe I should get go back to it. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: just start crying about all the celebrities that won't meet me. Yes,

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Speaker 2: maybe one of them will be like, I'll meet him,

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Speaker 2: it's fun and then boom.

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Speaker 3: She said.

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Speaker 4: She did like have to check though, to make sure

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Speaker 2: Christ if you think, if you think there wasn't an

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Speaker 2: extensive background check, an extensive vetting process. They dug and

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Speaker 2: Probably go see a physician. I would imagine that he was.

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Speaker 2: He went to the three checked in the mail for

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Speaker 2: stuff Dad has throwed up his booty. They looked everywhere,

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Speaker 2: they looked. I'm telling you, she is like a deity. Yeah, yes,

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