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Speaker 1: The San Antonio District judge resigns after a federal corruption prode.

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Speaker 2: A former San Antonio, Texas judge goes to federal prison

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Speaker 2: after pleading guilty to accepting bribes in exchange for rigging

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Speaker 2: cases in his court. Angus McGinty committed the ultimate judicial sin.

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Speaker 2: Why did you do it? I did it because I

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Speaker 2: was foolish. Listen to how to Bribe a Judge on

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Speaker 3: The John Nnick and Kenny Florian Podcasts Gary Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, you're your hosts John Annick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 4: Oh smile Ken Flow.

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Speaker 5: Happy New Year, ladies and gentlemen, Thank y'all for being here.

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Speaker 5: Episode one thirty seven of the Anaki and Florian podcast

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Speaker 5: Flow Going Gun Show. If you're watching the video today,

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Speaker 5: it is Monday, January first, twenty eighteen. Kenny begged to

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Speaker 5: work the holiday. We were in the people pleasing business

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Speaker 5: and as such we are here.

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Speaker 4: Kid. You look great as always.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 6: You know why because I didn't do Jack Schmou last night.

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Speaker 6: I didn't do anything. I didn't nothing interesting to talk

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Speaker 6: about it. I basically was there with my wife, my

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Speaker 6: pregnant wife, and we had a Roop beer float to

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Speaker 6: celebrate the New Year.

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Speaker 4: And that's it.

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Speaker 5: Well, I know you're not a big drinker to begin with,

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Speaker 5: so I would imagine it's not like mass consumption when

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Speaker 5: your wife's pregnant, right, like all of a sudden, you

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Speaker 5: start drinking a whole lot more.

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Speaker 7: So.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, needless to say, I was in bed at

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Speaker 5: eight thirty pm Eastern time. I flew the Red Eye

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Speaker 5: after the pay per view, and it's probably the last

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Speaker 5: time I'm going to do that, right because Cyborg Home

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Speaker 5: goes the distance and we're just firing it out of there.

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Speaker 5: Ride wasn't there, but we were able to make the

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Speaker 5: Red Eye, thankfully.

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Speaker 4: So right back at it today.

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Speaker 5: A little college football today, we're going head to head

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Speaker 5: with the college football playoffs. But dude, Mixed Martial Arts

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Speaker 5: fan is going to turn out for the podcast on

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Speaker 5: New Year's Day. So you won the main event challenge,

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Speaker 5: so quickly before we get into the UFC two nineteen

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Speaker 5: stuff and talk to UFC Featherweight Champion Max Holloway.

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Speaker 4: Congrats on winning the main event challenge.

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Speaker 5: Valiant comeback, of course, out of team Annik, my squad

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Speaker 5: of handicappers and listeners. In the end though, and you

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Speaker 5: guys know this if you've been following this show, Florian

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Speaker 5: is a sharp mixed martial arts better. I wish he

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Speaker 5: actually played with more money in his personal life. He

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Speaker 5: is won't to do that, So we'll take our well,

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Speaker 5: we'll take our loss and move. I do have to

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Speaker 5: pay off this bet though, well so.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well we got to figure it out because I

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Speaker 6: would love to see it in person, so you know,

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Speaker 6: when the UFC maybe comes to La or maybe we

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Speaker 6: find a way to do it when we meet up,

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Speaker 6: because I want to see. Actually, I want to make

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Speaker 6: the damn sandwich. I want to make the vegemit myself

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Speaker 6: and then watch you puke in front of me.

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Speaker 5: So the Australians tell me that if you toast it

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Speaker 5: and go butter first, and then the vega might on

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Speaker 5: the sandwich, it's easier on the taste.

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Speaker 4: What I'll do.

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Speaker 6: I'll do that for you, but but I will I'll

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Speaker 6: let you do that, but I'm going to I'm gonna

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Speaker 6: put the vegemin on.

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Speaker 4: Oh that's okay, that's okay. I allow you to do that.

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Speaker 4: We'll do it.

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Speaker 5: I think I'm going to Perth, but I'm gonna come

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Speaker 5: to La a little bit early. And although you know

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Speaker 5: you might be in crunch time there with that whole

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Speaker 5: pregnancy tay, we will figure it out. No tattoo bet

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Speaker 5: involved here. I'm gonna eat a veget might sandwich to

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Speaker 5: pay off the bet. We got a lot to get

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Speaker 5: to though, as usual, the UFC closing out its calendar

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Speaker 5: year in Las Vegas, Nevada with a big year end

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Speaker 4: Not now, but right now. Headlines. Let's go.

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Speaker 3: Headlines. It's time for headlines. I have some very urgent

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Speaker 3: and important breaking new headlines on the John and Kenny Florian's.

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Speaker 5: Podcast, All Right, UFC two nineteen Cyborg versus Home. If

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Speaker 5: you watch the pay per view until the end, though,

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Speaker 5: you know I am not leading with the main event

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Speaker 4: The Uncrowned King can flow ja beibe.

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Speaker 5: Nirmago Medov twenty five and oh twenty four rounds in

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Speaker 5: and I called howibnrmago Madov's UFC debut in January of

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Speaker 5: I sit here Monday morning, maybe reactionary, but I think

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Speaker 6: Eighteen, twenty five and zho twenty five fights in mixed

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Speaker 4: It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 6: And then when you consider all the guys that he's

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Speaker 6: it's amazing to watch. And this is a guy that

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Speaker 6: continues to get better. You know, the way that he

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Speaker 6: he just pummeled them. Man, he pummeled them. He took

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Speaker 6: look like a fight. It looked like Habi Narmaga Madoff

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Speaker 6: And to Edson Barbosa's credit, Man, I'm telling you, maybe

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Speaker 4: It was scary to watch, to be honest.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean to see it in person and again

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Speaker 5: And you're right two years ago when he thought Tony

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Speaker 5: But I just was so impressed with Kabib, Normaco Mettov

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Speaker 4: So he wasn't just out there and floating around and dancing.

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Speaker 6: He was doing he was moving and doing something every

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Speaker 5: So Kenny Joe Silva tried on several occasions to book

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Speaker 4: He was obsessed with that fight.

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Speaker 5: I remember after Tony Ferguson beat eds and Barbosa, we

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Speaker 5: I'm like, you gotta get Ferguson the title shot Joe right,

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Speaker 5: I'm making this fight between Kabib and Tony Ferguson if

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Speaker 5: that still hasn't happened. I mean, Kenny, is that not

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Speaker 6: Well, there's two things that Tony Ferguson has that can

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Speaker 6: say that, but that's the only way I see it happening.

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Speaker 6: Three rounds is not gonna be enough for you to

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Speaker 4: So just that alone makes it very interesting.

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Speaker 6: Also the fact that these guys were supposed to fight

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Speaker 6: three times before, So yeah, this is absolutely a fight

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Speaker 6: I imagine that's gonna be the fight that Connor takes next.

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Speaker 6: I just I don't know, you know, he keeps making

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, man, you know, Cyborg showed those three p's that

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Speaker 6: Was not the case. It looked like Cyborg was the

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Speaker 5: Yeah, she looked like she could have fought for an hour,

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Speaker 5: joining us on the guest line is one Ray Longo.

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Speaker 4: Let's get to him.

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Speaker 3: It is now time for the Ray Longo minutes.

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Speaker 4: And I'm going to punch a hole in this fucking ships.

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Speaker 4: That's what I wanted the.

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Speaker 3: Ray Longo minute.

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Speaker 8: During Ray long the.

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Speaker 3: John nik and Kenny Florian podcast.

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Speaker 5: Ye had two listeners checking a rehab because they didn't

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Speaker 5: they love the guy, and twenty eighteen, on the first

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Speaker 5: day of the year, begins with Raymond Peter Longo here

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Speaker 5: live on the Anakin Florian podcast.

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Speaker 4: Happy New Year, my friend, Happy new.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I listen. I'm excited with coming out swinging in

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Speaker 4: Oh well, good, look at how good he looks today, Kenny.

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Speaker 5: I can't apologize to those who are not ingesting this

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Speaker 5: with their eyes. He's wearing yellow, which dovetails very nicely

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Speaker 5: with your complexion.

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Speaker 4: Ray.

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Speaker 5: So did you do anything last night? Ken Flow was

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Speaker 7: I didn't do much more than that, and I stayed

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Speaker 4: Yes, that's nice.

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Speaker 7: This is exciting.

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Speaker 5: I can barely fucking sit still, it's so exciting. You

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Speaker 7: the outside and using her reach a little better. I

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00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,440
Speaker 7: thought she ran in and that's where Cyborg was able

438
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Speaker 7: to do a lot of the damage.

439
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I couldn't agree more man, you know, and I

440
00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,280
Speaker 6: would like to see her just kind of fight that relaxed,

441
00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:52,160
Speaker 6: composed way.

442
00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:54,960
Speaker 4: I mean, I think that experiences that.

443
00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:58,399
Speaker 7: Many bet with that many belts. It is crazy. She

444
00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,400
Speaker 7: just seemed like and I it's a kind of her thing,

445
00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:05,800
Speaker 7: but I think she should have the experience to really

446
00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:10,320
Speaker 7: move that, you know, because I don't know. I saw

447
00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,760
Speaker 7: spurts of something that I thought would have given Cyborg fits,

448
00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:15,119
Speaker 7: but she just didn't stick with it.

449
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Speaker 4: I agree with you, man.

450
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Speaker 6: Now, one guy who probably a lot of people are

451
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Speaker 6: waking up with nightmares about is Habibrmaga Matov.

452
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Speaker 4: What do you think about his performance?

453
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Speaker 7: Man, I'm sure no different than anybody else. Man, I mean,

454
00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,800
Speaker 7: I gotta tell you, but I still think even with him,

455
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Speaker 7: you know, and that was I mean, Bobo's is not

456
00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,320
Speaker 7: an easy guy to deal with her. He just made

457
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Speaker 7: that look easy. And again I think this guy, his

458
00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:44,440
Speaker 7: mindset is really what people should key in on. Because

459
00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,080
Speaker 7: he was walking through some of that stuff. He accepted

460
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Speaker 7: the responsibility he was going to get hit, but he

461
00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:52,520
Speaker 7: wasn't going to take no for an answer, and he

462
00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:54,919
Speaker 7: just got what he wanted. Man. And when he gets you,

463
00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,359
Speaker 7: his ground and pound is literally vicious. I mean, he

464
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Speaker 7: lumped up at some pretty good and look, man, hats

465
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,160
Speaker 7: off to barbos I think most guys would definitely have quit,

466
00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,320
Speaker 7: They would have given up their back, they would have

467
00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,680
Speaker 7: did something to get out of that fight. But man,

468
00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:11,520
Speaker 7: that guy's a tough son of a bitch. Man. He

469
00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,800
Speaker 7: stayed in there under the shittiest of circumstances that it's,

470
00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,399
Speaker 7: you know, like again, hats off to him, But the

471
00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,320
Speaker 7: other guy is just a ough he's a he's a

472
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,920
Speaker 7: killer at this point. I mean, if you can't deal

473
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Speaker 7: with the wrestling that that guy brings you, you just

474
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:28,920
Speaker 7: didn't for a it's just a nightmare.

475
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Speaker 5: And he's made a lot of improvements too when it

476
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:33,760
Speaker 5: comes to his striking game. A lot of those weren't

477
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Speaker 5: going to be showcased in a matchup like this. But

478
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:37,560
Speaker 5: he said to me when I spoke with him last

479
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Speaker 5: week that you know, to defend a kicking game like barbosas,

480
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,919
Speaker 5: you need to figure out offensively what you're doing too.

481
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 5: And he feels like his kicking game over the last

482
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,760
Speaker 5: six months with Barboza on his radar is on a

483
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,840
Speaker 5: different level than it was. But you know, you got

484
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Speaker 5: a guy in Widman Ray who prides himself on his

485
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,399
Speaker 5: ground and pound. I mean, have you ever seen a

486
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Speaker 5: guy on the ground under one hundred and eighty five pounds?

487
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Speaker 4: Strike like this kid insane?

488
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:04,240
Speaker 7: Now he's he's on a whole other level. And again,

489
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Speaker 7: I mean, I think it's a great it's a it's

490
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 7: a great roadmap for guys like Wiseman because I really

491
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,920
Speaker 7: believe Chris could do the same thing just like Kane

492
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:17,159
Speaker 7: Velasquez does. I mean, and I think again, Velasquez, you

493
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:18,720
Speaker 7: got to give it up to him. The guy's two

494
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,840
Speaker 7: hundred and forty pounds and he can keep it frisk pace. Yeah,

495
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,159
Speaker 7: and when he's on, he's he's another guy. He's just

496
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:29,359
Speaker 7: hard to beat. And I think, you know, Velasquez's stand

497
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:33,120
Speaker 7: up is much better than Kabeb's what we've seen. And

498
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Speaker 7: you know, I'd like to see Chris really adopt that

499
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 7: mindset and just go after because he's you know, he

500
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,439
Speaker 7: will get you down and then it comes down to

501
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Speaker 7: controlling it and keeping it on the floor and it

502
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Speaker 7: you know, Like again, I think we have to give

503
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Speaker 7: it up to Edson. He did get up a couple

504
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,359
Speaker 7: of times where nobody's really been able to do that.

505
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Speaker 7: So I don't know that was a phenomenal performance by Kabeb,

506
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 7: but I mean it really he really it should be

507
00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 7: him and Ferguson. I think, you know, yeah, that's the

508
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,880
Speaker 7: the other guy should just relinquish the belt. That Dane

509
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,239
Speaker 7: has got to step in and go, hey, you got

510
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 7: till March first to defend this or you know that

511
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:11,680
Speaker 7: that's over. But he's not. I think Kabeb walks right

512
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 7: over him. I don't think that's even a fight, to

513
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 7: be honest with you, and uh, you know, kuld Bebe

514
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 7: Ferguson is really the only intriguing matchup right now to make,

515
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 7: and that's the fight. I'm sure that's gonna happen, but

516
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 7: you know, I think the other guy should just relinquish

517
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:26,439
Speaker 7: the title at this point.

518
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,199
Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, last thing. Unless you got anything for

519
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 5: us on the way out. If you had to pick

520
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,159
Speaker 5: a fighter at one hundred and fifty five pounds to

521
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:38,199
Speaker 5: beat Kubby Normago Matov, Kenny sort of felt like it

522
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 5: would be Connor McGregor forced to choose, although he didn't

523
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,400
Speaker 5: really love his options. I mean, who is the guy

524
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:47,200
Speaker 5: best equipped at fifty five to actually give this guy

525
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 5: a competitive fight?

526
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 4: Is it Tony? I I sound like you think it is.

527
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 7: I think Ferguson. I think what what look? I'd really

528
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 7: have to uh, you know, I just don't think Connor

529
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 7: has got nowhere near the ground game to deal with

530
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 7: this guy. And once he gets you down, I think

531
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 7: Ferguson might be a little trickier off his back, and

532
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 7: that that would be interesting if he could, you know,

533
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:12,119
Speaker 7: somehow negate some of the ground and pound. But I

534
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 7: think that's what makes that fight interesting. And Ferguson looks

535
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 7: like he's got a decent gas tank, I mean kind

536
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 7: of just doesn't have the gas tank to deal with

537
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 7: this guy. That's the other thing he really you know,

538
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 7: he hasn't shown that in a five round fight where

539
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,679
Speaker 7: he's you know, he has periods where he takes a

540
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,719
Speaker 7: little break and he has come back, but his conditioning

541
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 7: is nowhere near this guy. I do believe this guy

542
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,639
Speaker 7: could afford another time that night. Just give him a

543
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 7: little break. I mean, he looks like he trains hard.

544
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 7: You know, Look, he's not out there. Look, I love

545
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 7: what he he said about his family, kind of keeps

546
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 7: that a little private. This guy is serious, man, He's

547
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 7: all business. He doesn'na give a shit right now about

548
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 7: you know, the rolls royces and the stupidity and all

549
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 7: of that shit. He's he's a fighter and I really

550
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,919
Speaker 7: hope the UFC embraces him and gain behind him, because

551
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,199
Speaker 7: I think the guy speaks well. He stands for the

552
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 7: right stuff. He's a great interview. He's got a great

553
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,640
Speaker 7: sense of humor. If you ever see him, like, yeah,

554
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 7: what's not to like about that?

555
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 6: He needs he needs to come up with his own

556
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 6: blender like vitamins, needs to come in and do like

557
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 6: the Nermalga Manoff blender something like that.

558
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:21,400
Speaker 7: Yeah he's sledgehammer, Yeah exactly, he needs his own sledgehammer

559
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 7: right there. He just smashes everything. But no, that is

560
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 7: you got to be impressed with that performance. I mean,

561
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,120
Speaker 7: I don't know, I don't even know what to say.

562
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 7: I mean, he is a handful for anybody. But I

563
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 7: think the you know, look, he's the key. The key

564
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 7: is going to be who can keep that fight standing

565
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 7: with him and then he I think he would be

566
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,879
Speaker 7: in a little trouble, you know what. I mean, but

567
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 7: that's gonna be the key. Can you stop a takedown?

568
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 7: Can you keep it standing? Because not like again, I

569
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 7: think last night was the wrong time to look, but

570
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 7: it didn't look like his striking was at the level

571
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 7: of some of these guys.

572
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's his weak absolutely, that's what he made

573
00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 4: it look.

574
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 7: Obviously, he makes up for in tough and I'm sure

575
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 7: he's powerful when he's swinging, but he's definitely not a

576
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 7: technical fight yet that way. I haven't seen it. And

577
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 7: but you know, when Bobosa was tired, man, he did

578
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,199
Speaker 7: land some nice shots, but not like it was you know,

579
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 7: anything that's gonna, you know, scare anybody. It's more the

580
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,360
Speaker 7: fact that if you get tired with this guy, you're

581
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,880
Speaker 7: screwed completely. And I'd like to see the Ferguson fight.

582
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 7: I think that's a great matchup, and I think that

583
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 7: that's the one I'd like to see. I don't think

584
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 7: Conna's got the endurance. He definitely has the punching power

585
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 7: for the guy, but I don't know how he's you know,

586
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,400
Speaker 7: this guy goes for a couple of takedowns and gases

587
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 7: him out, and then his power is going to go

588
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 7: down to drain too, So that's a tough matchup for Conna.

589
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,120
Speaker 7: I'd love to see it, but I don't. I don't.

590
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 7: I don't think anybody thinks that's happening, do.

591
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 4: They, right? Yeah, No, I think it's a long shot.

592
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 5: I think for the timeline too, I think Kabib's gonna

593
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 5: want to get in there first quarter twenty eighteen. And

594
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 5: you get me a great idea. I mean, how much, Kenny,

595
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 5: how many Kabib hammers can we sell? If it's a

596
00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:01,199
Speaker 5: hammer with like his papa wig or what is it, papaca? Uh,

597
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 5: the papaca as like the handle, right, his wig as

598
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 5: the handle, and it's a maybe.

599
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 4: I like it.

600
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 7: I like it, but I mean the other thing what

601
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 7: could be too is I think you know, the only

602
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 7: thing that could beat him now is his injuries. So

603
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 7: he's got to really train smart and he's got to

604
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 7: stay healthy because it looks like that's going to be

605
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 7: his achilles heel in the future.

606
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 4: All right, buddy, thank you so much. We have our

607
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 4: awards show next week.

608
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 5: I think you got that steamroll of for Vola Kid

609
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 5: coming up in Saint Louis, so we'll get into all

610
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 5: of that stuff. And the only thing we need from

611
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 5: you next week is your Male Fighter of the Year. Okay,

612
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 5: that's the only one. We got thirteen awards, we only

613
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 5: need one out of you.

614
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 7: Okay, Mail, I got it. I'm on it.

615
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 4: And again, Ray, I'm retired, so you can't pick me.

616
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 4: Yeah right, exactly.

617
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 7: You know, you know you were my favorite Elbows from

618
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 7: Helbows guy. This guy could cut you know you just

619
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 7: look at his elbow. You know, I started bleeding. I

620
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 7: never seen anything like that in my life. Seriously, only

621
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 7: know started lead you. I was gushing. It's like a superhero.

622
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 7: This guy is amazing. I can't think this guy.

623
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 4: Laugh. I can't even.

624
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,479
Speaker 5: Even bring you into the ground and pound conversation. I mean,

625
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,919
Speaker 5: he's got like elbows are on his Wikipedia page.

626
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 7: I gotta go look at that.

627
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,199
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, guys, all right, we'll let you go to

628
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 5: get to the Wikipedia page of ken Flow and uh,

629
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 5: we're going to bounce this scuppy hammer idea around a

630
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 5: little further offline.

631
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 7: But who was the little the Greek guy? I think

632
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 7: you fought him?

633
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 6: Uh, Carole Carolin the show too, Carolexis Alex Caro Alexis,

634
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yes, he's doing good. He's he's doing working

635
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 6: for a charity right now, and in Arizona he actually

636
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 6: builds homes for veterans.

637
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 4: It's pretty amazing. Yeah, oh, it's pretty awesome.

638
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 7: He's got about eighty five stitches over his right eye

639
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 7: thanks to you.

640
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 6: He reminds me about that. It was his nose awful. Yes,

641
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 6: thank you, guys.

642
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 4: Listen, have a great night.

643
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 7: I have a great twenty eighteen.

644
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 4: Happy new brother, all right, happy to you guys.

645
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Speaker 5: There he is the great Ray Long go every week

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Speaker 5: I know this is my New Year's surprise for you

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Speaker 5: New Year's Day, No less, this guy's breaking away for

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Speaker 5: what is Max Holloway is with us?

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Speaker 4: Max? Happy New Year man, Thank you for the time today.

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Speaker 8: No, happy New Year you guys, thanks for.

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Speaker 5: Having me so i'd imagine the last few weeks since

679
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Speaker 5: the win over Jose Aldo have been pretty nice for you,

680
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Speaker 5: celebrating Christmas with the family.

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Speaker 4: I mean we're able to take a little bit of

682
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Speaker 4: time off. I know you're a workhorse.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know our.

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Speaker 8: Jim, our Jim.

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Speaker 1: Basically, they actually closed the gym for a week and

686
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Speaker 1: we never did it for five year street for the

687
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Speaker 1: last five years, so it was closed then. Uh I

688
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Speaker 1: was enjoying. Man, that's uh. I got one more thing,

689
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: my son's birthdays. Next week we're doing a little vaca again,

690
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: and uh I gotta get my fat butt back down

691
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: to fighting late and get back in the game.

692
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Speaker 4: So, uh so next week we're gonna do our awards show.

693
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 5: Here on the show, it seems like you're already stacking

694
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Speaker 5: up a lot of these Fighter of the Year awards

695
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 5: for twenty seventeen from a lot of different media outlets.

696
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 5: Ken Flow actually went on national television last week and

697
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 5: gave you his nod on UFC tonight. I mean, it's

698
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 5: about time Kenny Florian used his television platform.

699
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 4: I have to give him some respect.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I took MANI me I like to bring him

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Speaker 1: out of retirement to make it man. I don't know, Ken,

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Speaker 1: but uh that over Twitter.

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Speaker 8: I lived with a little Twitter.

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Speaker 1: Good Man, that's good. That's just for a little bit,

705
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Speaker 1: not thet you know, it's just it's just a lot

706
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Speaker 1: of hard work. Man, longer in the works. Finally figure out.

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Speaker 6: Max, the best part about being retired is you got

708
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Speaker 6: to kick someone else's asked to prove a point to me.

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Speaker 4: You didn't have to beat me up to prove a point, right,

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Speaker 4: Uh yeah yeah man, oh.

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Speaker 6: Man, So listen, Max, how has life changed for you

712
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 6: since you've become the chap Man?

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00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: Just like anything else? Man, you know, it's a lot

714
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: more media, a lot you're in the lime light, a

715
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: little bit more, a lot more picture taking, a little

716
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: more autographs, you know. Like that's that's all I add

717
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: to me. You know, a better pay d and that's

718
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: about it. You know, it's they got to keep the

719
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: whole work. You know. People will get comfortable when they

720
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: hit this, uh this pinnacle of their career. But I'm

721
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,479
Speaker 1: just getting started. You know a lot of people are saying, uh,

722
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: certain guards in the future of right division and this

723
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Speaker 1: and that, and I thank so everybody forgetting I'm twenty six.

724
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Speaker 1: I want me here for a long time, and I'm

725
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Speaker 1: gonna prove it, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, Max.

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Speaker 6: They asked me the other day for a Bowl prediction

728
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 6: for two thousand eighteen, and I said that you would

729
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:03,719
Speaker 6: fight Connor McGregor.

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Speaker 4: Now, is there any talk about that.

731
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Speaker 6: Has anyone reached out to you or maybe proposed that

732
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Speaker 6: idea to you?

733
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you know what the the UCO change before we

735
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 8: had that contract issue before this, before my last fight,

736
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 8: before we frank you, he was going back and forward.

737
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: With contracts and stuff, and uh, they bring up they

738
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Speaker 1: bring up Connor in it fifty five and we should happen, yes,

739
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 1: because mean here and it happened so long time ago.

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Speaker 1: You know. It's if that guy wanted to who that

741
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: went over my head. It is what it is, you know.

742
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 1: But uh, at the end of this, if if we

743
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Speaker 1: don't end up fighting on their side, you know, you

744
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Speaker 1: know who's the best in the world. And like I

745
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: said before I took it was a long time. You know,

746
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: it's who want to fight the best, gonna fight press.

747
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: So if they guys, if he's back, if you want

748
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: to come back and stay enjoyed, you know that guy,

749
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: the guy's joined life for now, I know and there's

750
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Speaker 1: no reason to uh, you changing somebody who goes to fight,

751
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: you know. So I'm here. I waited. You know that

752
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: we got contenders in the rise, and I think it's

753
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 1: nice for a future if we run down the back

754
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Speaker 1: and it'll be you know, it's life.

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00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, Max holl the way with us here

756
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 5: on the Anakin Florian podcast. Now, you have really been

757
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 5: at the forefront of this UFC to Hawaii conversation and

758
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 5: the initiative for for a long time. I mean, I

759
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 5: remember when you first cracked a mic after one of

760
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 5: these fights talking about UFC to Hawaii and good news

761
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 5: last week man UFC president Dana White saying the company

762
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 5: is now actively working on it, and without you accomplishing

763
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 5: what you have in the octagon, the company's not working

764
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Speaker 5: on that going into twenty eighteen.

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00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 4: I mean, do you recognize that?

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Speaker 5: And if so, how satisfying is it for you to

767
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 5: know that in some part your work inside the octagon

768
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Speaker 5: has opened up this discussion.

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Speaker 1: All right, So it's an ad Man and Judia see

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Speaker 1: along Dana.

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Speaker 9: I So Dana has only worried about being stadiums or

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Speaker 9: outdoor EBA. He can't say it range every ten.

773
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Speaker 1: Minutes over here he's talking about Molley or something.

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Speaker 9: Who we haven't who we rained that much. I have

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Speaker 9: an idea state and I did that uh at my

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Speaker 9: high school season over here is dry drys can be

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Speaker 9: it hot all the fall in the side, so you

778
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Speaker 9: have to worry about you don't have to worry about

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Speaker 9: uh about wine. I rain and but uh, you know

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Speaker 9: I do society.

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Speaker 1: After the last.

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Speaker 9: Fight, I told him, come on, U see y and

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Speaker 9: he told me, you know I can't. I might just

784
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Speaker 9: think about might have to suck it up and you know,

785
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Speaker 9: fierce my beers and do one so and then he

786
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 9: did have the person say it's exciting. You know it's exciting.

787
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 9: I hope uh, I hope the the Hawaiian uh tourism

788
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Speaker 9: agency over here listen to what they have to say.

789
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Speaker 9: And uh, I think I'd be not only great for Hawaii,

790
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 9: not any griff for UC.

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00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: But grit for Waii. You know, the tourism and all

792
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: that stuff. So it would be the only way to word.

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00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 5: I know, you can sell out a Loha stadium. They

794
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 5: just got to give you the opportunity. Hopefully they do.

795
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 5: But I would imagine your timeline for fighting is going

796
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 5: to be before the Hawaii thing is done and this

797
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 5: potential fight against Frank Edgar're in a perfect world?

798
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 4: Is it like April May for you? When do you

799
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 4: want to come back?

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00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 7: Ah?

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Speaker 1: You know what we see it happens. You know, we

802
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 1: see it happens that the June, the June and December

803
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: I did the last two years is great. You know.

804
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: I times to relax, focus on some injuries. We have

805
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Speaker 1: some stuff and and get back into our train cat

806
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Speaker 1: my bibe.

807
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 8: And it's seen great doing that.

808
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 1: You know, that's why my bide felt great. I an't

809
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 1: take too much damage as I did with him the

810
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,439
Speaker 1: first time I heard all this. Uh, you know it's good.

811
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Speaker 1: You know, we see what happens. I'm just waiting, you know,

812
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: whatever you want to do, I'm here waiting. I want

813
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,399
Speaker 1: to fight, and you know, to prove that your best,

814
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: you got to stay active. You know, Like I said,

815
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: we're finally bringing back UH stability to this to this

816
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: division and UH a lot of new contendercy UH is

817
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: on the come up. So it's exciting times. But say

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Speaker 1: the way and you cety five you know, you know

819
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 1: I want to defend mcconnor and this and that. But

820
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Speaker 1: people keep saying they want to come down to forty

821
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: five and fight at MA week Grass. You know, you guys,

822
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: just hold on. It's hold on, I say you guys, wait,

823
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 1: I don't want to no excuses when you guys come

824
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,879
Speaker 1: down here and have a lot of tenser los gating

825
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 1: ten pounds easy for you guys, And I'll put you

826
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Speaker 1: guys out on.

827
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 4: The best right now.

828
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 5: And I think if you do fight Connor McGregor, he's

829
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 5: not coming down to one hundred and forty five pounds

830
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 5: to fight you. And I know you've said you're gonna

831
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 5: fight multiple divisions before your career is over. I think

832
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 5: because you make the weight cut look easy and you

833
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 5: don't complain about it and you smile on the scale,

834
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,760
Speaker 5: people maybe don't talk about you at fifty five or seventy,

835
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,720
Speaker 5: but uh, I think a lot of us are excited

836
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 5: to see those matchups for you in the not too

837
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 5: distant future.

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Speaker 1: Man, Oh yeah, for sure. You know, like you said

839
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Speaker 1: one seventy United question too. You know a lot of

840
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: you know I'm not gonna tell you to wait the

841
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Speaker 1: way I am. That's a secret, you know, Just tell

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00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: him to tell him domb sure, I'm sure you gotta

843
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Speaker 1: get kicks. But but you know you would see the

844
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Speaker 1: beg tell me you know we have you know we

845
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Speaker 1: lie me and uh the year c T I missed.

846
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Speaker 1: I got the best in the beauty uh, in the business.

847
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: His name is Tyler Mitan, and I'm finding him. You know,

848
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: he does a job right, and it shows every time

849
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: I go there and fight.

850
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 4: Hey, how about Yancey maderis getting the main event? Huh?

851
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,760
Speaker 1: Oh, yes, that is a beast man in the cupboards,

852
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 1: gonna get crazy and you guys se uh you see him.

853
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is this, guys, you're going

854
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: for another cupboys an excited man and uh when you

855
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: go out there and do his thing, you know, I

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00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:37,760
Speaker 1: think it's a strict j Whris. I'm excited man, trying

857
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: to get him the restrict you deserve and man that Yeah,

858
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on in.

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00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 4: All right?

860
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Speaker 5: Last thing, what does your son think of all of this?

861
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 5: I mean, does he even remember when when you work champion?

862
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 4: At this point? What does he think of everything that

863
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 4: has happened over last year and a half.

864
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: Oh? Man, he he's living Champlaine more than me. I

865
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:11,399
Speaker 1: think he's OK. People these things he was the same

866
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Speaker 1: with having him last.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we hit that.

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Speaker 1: Man. You know, he understands he he loves the games

869
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 1: and he he uh, he does the guts, so he

870
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: understands the he understands you know, sports period of winning

871
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 1: and losing and uh and and being a champion. So

872
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: it's always amazing life. And uh, you know, I'm great

873
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: that I can support the guys.

874
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 5: His dad has won twelve fights in a row. Folks,

875
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 5: you have featherweight Champion twenty seventeen Fighter of the Year

876
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 5: here on the Anak and Florian Podcast.

877
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 4: Max Holloway.

878
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 5: Congrats on everything, man, appreciate the time today, Happy New Year,

879
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 5: and uh we look forward to seeing you, I guess

880
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 5: in June, if not sooner.

881
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,919
Speaker 4: Man, all the best, Thank you guys.

882
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 8: Man, you guys have it going.

883
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 4: All congrats man, Happy new Year, Thank you mother.

884
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 5: All right there he is Max Holloway with us on

885
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 5: the Anakin Florian Podcast. So when I asked him a

886
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 5: couple of weeks ago before the Aldo fight about his

887
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 5: future at lightweight and welterweight, he said, I'm a fight

888
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,760
Speaker 5: at one hundred and eighty five pounds. So Max Holloway,

889
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 5: I think at this point is probably going to retire

890
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 5: as the UFC's all time leader and wins and appearances, right,

891
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 5: I mean, if he can add longevity to everything else

892
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 5: that has been a successful part of his career, right.

893
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 5: You know, Stephan Struve used to say, oh, I'm going

894
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 5: to be the first to get to fifty UFC appearances.

895
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 5: Donald Seroni was on a tear. You're thinking, this guy's

896
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 5: going to retire as the all time UFC wins leader.

897
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 5: Then all of a sudden you get finished a couple

898
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 5: times and that conversation changes a little bit. I think

899
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 5: because Max Holloway has started at forty five and can

900
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 5: finish potentially at seventy, that he is going to be

901
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 5: just littered across the UFC record books when he has done.

902
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 5: And of course, here on New Year's Day in the

903
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 5: middle of the Hawaiian afternoon, we appreciate the UFC featherweight

904
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 5: champ giving us a few minutes. I was just saying,

905
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 5: Holly Holm Kenny thirty three, two and three as a

906
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 5: pro boxer, multiple world titles at one hundred and forty pounds,

907
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 5: one forty seven and one fifty four, right, but only

908
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 5: five times did she make the walk in boxing and

909
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 5: not win and she's now lost four of her last five.

910
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 5: And it's very interesting for me to hear you and

911
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 5: Ray break down this performance by Holly.

912
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 4: Holm, because there was a lot of good in it.

913
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 5: Physically, in the clinch, she showed things against Chris Cyborg,

914
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 5: even if it was a stall tactic, right, she was

915
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 5: able to reverse Cyborg a couple times and at least

916
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 5: give Chris some things to think about. But I guess

917
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 5: I'm not at the front of the line necessarily for

918
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 5: the rematch, even though this has been the most competitive

919
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 5: fight recently we have seen Chris Cyborgan because I don't know.

920
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 5: I guess I have to watch it back, and I

921
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 5: hope my call wasn't two one sided. If the fight

922
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 5: was closer, then maybe I thought it was. But I

923
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,760
Speaker 5: just didn't feel like there was anything appreciable in terms

924
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 5: of the sustained damage going from you know, home to

925
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 5: Chris at all.

926
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, and that's why I was a little surprised. You know,

927
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 6: Tyren Woodley was watching the fight and he said, you know,

928
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 6: this is a closer fight than than a lot of

929
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:02,959
Speaker 6: people think.

930
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 4: I think.

931
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 6: You know, I have Holly winning two rounds. I thought

932
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 6: she won the first round and that was it. I

933
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:13,720
Speaker 6: thought Cyborg run one, rounds two through five. However, whatever

934
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 6: it is, I thought that, yeah, absolutely Holly could have

935
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 6: fought a better fight. As close as that fight was,

936
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 6: I thought she could have found a little bit better angles.

937
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 6: I thought she could have countered a lot better. But

938
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 6: more than anything else. And this is what kind of

939
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 6: you're alluding to. You talk about her boxing record. She

940
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 6: has experienced in kickboxing now is you know a ton

941
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 6: of experience in fighting in big fights in the UFC.

942
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 6: But I have yet to see her common compose in

943
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 6: a UFC fight. And I think that when she starts

944
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 6: to really see the octagon as her home, as her

945
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 6: place where she can go out there and just kind

946
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 6: of have fun and be creative and be the great

947
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 6: martial artist that she is, I think a lot of

948
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 6: those people that beat her a lot of those close fights,

949
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 6: I think Hollywood would win a lot of those fights.

950
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 6: I really do. I think that we haven't seen the

951
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 6: best Holly home yet. Regardless of all of her great performances,

952
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:12,720
Speaker 6: I still think that she still hasn't shown that that

953
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 6: that kind of mastery level where when a person walks

954
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 6: into their domain they own it, They own that space,

955
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 6: and she hasn't owned that space. And I think that

956
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 6: even even when she beat Bitch go heyes, she knocked

957
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 6: her out. You see, like all that tension, she kind

958
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 6: of just lets it go and she's you know.

959
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 4: It seems like there's just a lot of pressure on

960
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 4: Can I go home?

961
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:31,720
Speaker 6: Yeah?

962
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.

963
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 5: Well, And I don't know if you ever got anxiety

964
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 5: for training sessions. I mean, you and I have talked

965
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 5: a lot about broadcast television and how some of the

966
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 5: nerves we had early on we wish maybe we could

967
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 5: get them back because it might be a performance enhancer.

968
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 5: Did you ever have anxiety for maybe some sparing sessions?

969
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 5: But she every day she has anxiety and then once

970
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 5: she gets warming up at Jackson Wake, it goes away.

971
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 5: You know, I think there's some benefit to that. But

972
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 5: I just you're right, man, very very tense individual in

973
00:43:59,080 --> 00:43:59,760
Speaker 5: a lot of respects.

974
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, no, And you could see it. You know,

975
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 6: it's very apparent. And obviously it's worked for her. She

976
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 6: has succeeded at a very high level despite that. But

977
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 6: I think that would be the next level to kind

978
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 6: of that would be the next thing to take her

979
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 6: to the next level would be to kind of find

980
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 6: a way to shed that pressure, to shed that tension,

981
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 6: because she really is such a talented human being, and

982
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 6: I feel like we have yet to see the best

983
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 6: Holly Home in the octagon. But with that said, she

984
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 6: is fighting amazing fighters. I mean she is fighting, of course,

985
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 6: an amazing fighter in Cyborg. Cyborg is extremely good. But

986
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 6: I think that Holly showed that she could be able

987
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 6: to win that fight. It would not be easy, but

988
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 6: she has the skills and she has the capabilities to

989
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 6: perhaps win that fight. But Cyborg, that's what makes her

990
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 6: such a special fighter, That's what makes her so dominant

991
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 6: and just an amazing performance.

992
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 4: All Right, we'll see who's next for Chris Cyborg.

993
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,919
Speaker 5: Maybe it will be Megan Anderson the natural Featherway, maybe

994
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 5: it'll be a man in newon Az. I know, Cyborg

995
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 5: in a perfect world wouldn't fight a fellow Brazilian, but

996
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 5: she's going to fight whoever signs on the dotted line,

997
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 5: and Amana Nenez has expressed some interest. I want to

998
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 5: bank through a couple of these other winners at UFC

999
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 5: two nineteen. Nice win for Dan Hooker against Mark Chacase.

1000
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 5: You know, here's a guy in Dan Hooker now fighting

1001
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 5: in his natural weight class one hundred and fifty five pounds.

1002
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:17,800
Speaker 4: He has never been finished in the UFC.

1003
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 5: He has never been knocked out as a pro, and

1004
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 5: I think we haven't necessarily seen just how good he

1005
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 5: can be because he spent the bulk of his career

1006
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 5: at featherweight.

1007
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 4: So congrats to Dan Hooker.

1008
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:29,879
Speaker 5: I'd like to spend some time on Carla Asparza though,

1009
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 5: if we could, because you and I sort of disagreed

1010
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 5: and again our scorecards. Right, you're working the desks, You've

1011
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 5: got a lot of different things going on. I'm calling

1012
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 5: the fight, so you might as well toss my scorecard out.

1013
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 5: But once the fight's over, I asked the truck to

1014
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 5: tell me who wins the fight. I thought they were

1015
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 5: going to tell me Carla Asparsa. She did win by

1016
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 5: unanimous decision and hand Cynthia Calvio her first pro loss.

1017
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 5: Your thoughts on this fight at one hundred and fifteen

1018
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 5: pounds and what the win means now for the former

1019
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:56,959
Speaker 5: champion Carla espars Well, there.

1020
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 6: Was no doubt that the fight was close, right, I

1021
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 6: thought they were going to give to Calvio, But I

1022
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 6: have no problem with it going to carlas Sparza. I

1023
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 6: thought she, you know, in that third round, she was

1024
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 6: the one who was kind of looking for the takedown,

1025
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 6: wasn't always successful with it and didn't do much with it,

1026
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 6: but she was moving forward, So I totally get that.

1027
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 4: Listen, it was an.

1028
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 6: Awesome round for Calvio, a possible ten eight had it

1029
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 6: not been for that close armbar from Asparza and that

1030
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 6: reversal at the very end to get on top, could

1031
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 6: have been a ten eight for her. But either way,

1032
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 6: I think after that, Calvio kind of went into cruise

1033
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 6: control a little bit. Now, this is what her seventh

1034
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 6: fight on her UFC record, so still doesn't have a

1035
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 6: whole lot of experience. Seventh pro fight, fourth UFC, right, right,

1036
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 6: So this is gonna be one of those she goes

1037
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 6: back and she's gonna watch it and she's gonna be

1038
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 6: a little disappointed with what she did, not because you know,

1039
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 6: you know, she lost a fight, but because she probably

1040
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 6: should should have done more during those second and third rounds.

1041
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 6: She was giving up takedowns, wasn't able to score on

1042
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,240
Speaker 6: the feet like she wanted to, a little bit hesitant

1043
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 6: and maybe shut down her offense a little bit because

1044
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 6: Carla was shooting in a lot. So a big credit

1045
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 6: to a Sparza and her experience to switch things up

1046
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 6: and to keep Cynthia Calvio guessing. Calvio is gonna be

1047
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 6: a fantastic fighter. I think she's gonna learn from this.

1048
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 6: This is gonna be one of those experiences where that

1049
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 6: propels her forward. I think she's got the right attitude

1050
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,720
Speaker 6: to work harder and kind of work on those things,

1051
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 6: especially in regards to the wrestling and maybe her striking

1052
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 6: a little bit.

1053
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 4: But yeah, it was it was a.

1054
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 6: Close fight, man, So you really can't complain about a

1055
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 6: fight like that. That's a fight that really could have

1056
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 6: gone either way.

1057
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,439
Speaker 5: And this is far and away from me the most

1058
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 5: interesting women's division in the UFC one hundred and fifteen pounds.

1059
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 5: Of course, they're all chasing Rose nama Unis right now,

1060
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 5: Carla Asparza has a win over nama Unis, and you

1061
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 5: have a big fight coming up with Tisha Torres and

1062
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 5: Jessica andraj Perhaps Carla Asparza gets the loser of that fight.

1063
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 5: I think the winner's probably getting a title fight. But

1064
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 5: Joanna you Jcheck is probably gonna fight for the belt

1065
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 5: in her next fight. You got Cloud Jagdelia, who could

1066
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 5: be a possibility for Asparza, Carolina kobo Keaevitch might have

1067
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 5: a fight on the books, but it's going to come

1068
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:07,959
Speaker 5: out of one of those names you just heard next

1069
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 5: for Esparza and for Calvio. I think watching this tape

1070
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 5: and learning from these fifteen minutes to your point is

1071
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 5: going to be very beneficial. I just don't like when

1072
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 5: fighters are and I love Calvia like Calvi excuse me,

1073
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 5: like batshit crazy, infectious personality, Absolutely love her. I don't

1074
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 5: love when fighters feel like they have a decision in

1075
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 5: the can in a close fight. It happened recently Courtney

1076
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 5: Casey against Felice Herrig. These fighters act totally shocked by

1077
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 5: the scorecards, and I think when she goes back and

1078
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 5: watches it, she'll probably have a different opinion on that.

1079
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:42,839
Speaker 5: Neil Magni defeats carlos kandit unanimously thirty to twenty seven

1080
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:44,760
Speaker 5: times two in a twenty nine to twenty eight there

1081
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 5: Inevitably we're going to spend more time talking about carlos

1082
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 5: kandit probably Kenny. But what else can you say about

1083
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,919
Speaker 5: Neil Magni tie with Donald Roni for the most UFC wins.

1084
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:59,280
Speaker 5: Since twenty thirteen, Neil Magni has won thirteen UFC fights.

1085
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 5: Sports books were exposed on Neil Magne. I thought maybe

1086
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 5: betters would look at Carlos Conda in that minus one

1087
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 5: fifty range despite the layoff, and think there was some

1088
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 5: value there. Magne cashes again Ken Flow for the eighth

1089
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 5: time as a fucking betting underdog in the Ultimate Fighting Chack.

1090
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:18,240
Speaker 6: It's amazing, and this is a classic Neil Magni performance,

1091
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 6: right He goes in, he does the work quietly, he

1092
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 6: collects his check, and then he's out and no one's

1093
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 6: really talking about him again. He's just got to go

1094
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:27,919
Speaker 6: right back to work. He's probably training right now as

1095
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 6: we speak. He's just one of those likable guys who

1096
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 6: puts in the work day in and day out and

1097
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 6: goes out and doesn't talk about it, just goes out

1098
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 6: there and proves people wrong time and time again. So

1099
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 6: I really love the guy and want to congratulate him

1100
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 6: on another amazing performance. I'll never forget his fight against

1101
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 6: Hector Lombard and then talking to him after that amazing

1102
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 6: comeback win, and he was so so humble about it

1103
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 6: like it wasn't really a big deal and he was

1104
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 6: just lucky to kind of get the win.

1105
00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,320
Speaker 4: And it was very authentic.

1106
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 6: He was very he wasn't kind of putting that on

1107
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 6: just for a show to act like he's well, he

1108
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 6: really is the real deal. So Neil Magne is awesome man.

1109
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 6: But for Carlos Condent, I saw a couple of things

1110
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 6: that concerned me because this wasn't the typical Carlos Condit

1111
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 6: that we're all used to seeing. Carlos content has been

1112
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 6: one of my favorite fighters for a very very long time.

1113
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 6: He was not the natural born killer on Saturday Night.

1114
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 6: He was kind of looking for shots and and he

1115
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 6: was very hesitant to get in the mix and stay

1116
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 6: in the pocket, something that he does very well, and

1117
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 6: just couldn't get off in those combinations. And you know,

1118
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 6: I think that it has more to do with it.

1119
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,240
Speaker 6: It's two things. Either he was not given a plan

1120
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 6: to go out there, or maybe wasn't working on certain

1121
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 6: tactics during the fight that he should have. Or number two,

1122
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 6: maybe he's getting a little bit gun shy now, you know,

1123
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 6: maybe he's getting a little bit gun shy as a

1124
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 6: fighter because he has had a lot of fights. I

1125
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 6: think he just had his second child. That stuff, you know,

1126
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 6: that was his what forty first or forty second fight

1127
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 6: of his career, and I hate to see those kind

1128
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 6: of things.

1129
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:09,399
Speaker 4: I hope that's not the case.

1130
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 6: I hope this was just either a flat Knight or

1131
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 6: whatever because Carlos is I felt that as good as

1132
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 6: Neil Magni is, Carlos didn't.

1133
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 4: Show us his true capabilities.

1134
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would agree with a lot of that for sure.

1135
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 5: Just one win Kenny since twenty thirteen for Carlos Condit,

1136
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 5: certainly two years ago was very close to beating Robby

1137
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 5: Lawler for that on speed UFC welterweight title, but a

1138
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,760
Speaker 5: pro dating to two thousand and two, to your point,

1139
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,879
Speaker 5: forty first pro fight mixed in some pro kickboxing there

1140
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 5: as well. And I hate to sit here, as a

1141
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:43,240
Speaker 5: non fighter and just in general sort of a soft

1142
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 5: athlete in my life and say that a guy's heart

1143
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 5: is not in it. But it just didn't seem to

1144
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 5: be the same Carlos Condit. Some people will chalk it

1145
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 5: up to rust and the layoff. I know you and

1146
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 5: Jimmy Smith got into that conversation a little bit, but

1147
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 5: obviously you and I saw what he did against Thiago

1148
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 5: Alvez after a fourteen month layoff, and that was a

1149
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 5: layoff that had an ACL reconstruction as a part of it, Right,

1150
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 5: So I just felt like he got away from the

1151
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 5: fight game. And I don't know, man, I just feel

1152
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 5: like I think his next performance will certainly be better.

1153
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 5: I certainly don't think this is the way that a

1154
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 5: type of fighter like Carlos Condit goes out. I think

1155
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 5: to a fighter, he's the most popular guy on the roster, right,

1156
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 5: But in terms of you guys, who you guys respected,

1157
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 5: whose T shirts you guys buy, it's Carlos Condit. I

1158
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 5: just I don't know that he's going to want to

1159
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:28,879
Speaker 5: go out like this.

1160
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 4: Flow and that's the thing.

1161
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:33,240
Speaker 6: And you wouldn't be off basin saying that, because obviously

1162
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,760
Speaker 6: we heard about what he said after the Robbie Lawler

1163
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 6: fight that maybe he wasn't going to fight again. And

1164
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 6: then again, you know, after he fought Damien Maya, you know,

1165
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 6: he really stayed quiet. We weren't sure if he was

1166
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:47,359
Speaker 6: going to come back after that one either, right, and

1167
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 6: then he said, you know, I kind of got back

1168
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:50,959
Speaker 6: into training and I felt good.

1169
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 4: So I decided to go out there and fight.

1170
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 6: Okay, technically okay, your your body's doing the right things,

1171
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 6: all that stuff. How do you feel up here? Do

1172
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,800
Speaker 6: you want to fight up here? Is it in you still?

1173
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,320
Speaker 6: And that's the big problem for a lot of fighters

1174
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 6: is sometimes the body speaks before the brain, or the

1175
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 6: brain speaks before the body, and you have to find

1176
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 6: that balance on.

1177
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 4: Is it is it time for you to give up

1178
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 4: what you've been doing for a very long time. It's tough.

1179
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 6: It's a really hard thing, man, it's a really hard thing.

1180
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 6: But one thing that can't be denied. That was not

1181
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 6: the Carlos content that were you see even listen and

1182
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 6: even in losing, you know, that's not the Carlos content

1183
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 6: that we're used to sing, right, I mean Carlos even

1184
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 6: in losing, like that fight against Robby Lawler was ridiculous,

1185
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 6: could have gone either way. Robbie fought his ass off.

1186
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 6: So it's tough, man, And listen, there is a number.

1187
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 6: There is a certain number that every fighter has, and

1188
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 6: everyone's different. Some guys, you know, three fights that that's

1189
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:53,879
Speaker 6: what you have, and that's it. That's all you're gonna

1190
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 6: give us. Some guys can go up to fifty sixty fights.

1191
00:53:56,680 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 6: Those are super special, unusual individuals that have I have

1192
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 6: sixty hard fights in them. But everybody has a number

1193
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 6: that I believe is God given and maybe that numbers up.

1194
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 4: Who knows? Yeah?

1195
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 5: Interesting, well, put and I could just see Neil Magni right,

1196
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,800
Speaker 5: I think his show money is seventy k Can you

1197
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 5: see him just going to accounting? Excuse me, sir, this

1198
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 5: check is for seventy thousand. It actually should be for

1199
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 5: one hundred and forty thousand American dollars. I beat Carlos

1200
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 5: Conta tonight, so you could just double that.

1201
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 4: That's gotta feel good.

1202
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, And how about too, righte that Neil Magne made

1203
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 5: one hundred and forty thousand dollars Saturday night?

1204
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 9: Right?

1205
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 8: You know?

1206
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 5: And you and I obviously we could sit here and

1207
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 5: scream and advocate for fighter pay. We've had a million

1208
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 5: conversations about it off the air. We'd all love to

1209
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 5: see the fighters get paid more and do well. But

1210
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,359
Speaker 5: Neil Magne made one hundred and forty thousand dollars Saturday night.

1211
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 4: And go ahead ask what some of the undercard boxes

1212
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 4: are making.

1213
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, take a look at those like twenty five hundred

1214
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 6: dollars pay days. I mean it's yeah anyways, yeah, but

1215
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 6: good for a lot of that's awesome.

1216
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, I'm going to shout out a few

1217
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 5: prelim names here and you tell me who you want

1218
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 5: to talk about. But before we get to those f

1219
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 5: s one prelims, the loan fight on fight past Kenny

1220
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 5: Anaconda choke victory for Tim Elliott, and this was an

1221
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 5: emotional moment for Tim. Obviously, if you listen to our

1222
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 5: show two weeks ago, the MMA community lost an absolute giant,

1223
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 5: one of the true great head coaches Hall of Famer

1224
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 5: in my mind, Robert Fallis. Tim Elliett bought a house

1225
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:22,760
Speaker 5: in Las Vegas for two hundred and seventy thousand dollars

1226
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 5: because Robert Fallis was his head coach and he wanted

1227
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 5: to be around him more often. Right, move from Missouri,

1228
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:29,839
Speaker 5: which he had never done in his pro career. Before

1229
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:33,320
Speaker 5: he had bounced around a little bit, but moved to Vegas,

1230
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 5: and then of course this stuff goes down, and Tim,

1231
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 5: I know, felt like Kenny once the fight started, he'd

1232
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 5: be okay when it came to the emotions without Robert

1233
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 5: Fallas in his corner.

1234
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 4: And that's exactly what happened. Once the fight came on,

1235
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 4: Tim was able to focus and how good do you

1236
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 4: feel that this guy leaves with a fifty thousand dollars

1237
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:54,799
Speaker 4: bonus as well? It was almost like Fallis was making

1238
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 4: sure we had a bunch of decisions the rest of

1239
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:02,479
Speaker 4: the way to preserve Tim's bonus. A devastating, really horrifying, sad,

1240
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 4: sad story with a little bit of an upturn to

1241
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:08,839
Speaker 4: the frown. With Tim Elliot's performances, it was a fitting end.

1242
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 6: It was a fitting finish from Tim Elliott, and he

1243
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,879
Speaker 6: did it against a dangerous guy and a pretty good

1244
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 6: Brazilian jitsu black belt fighter.

1245
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 4: So awesome to see Tim Elliott get the win.

1246
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:25,359
Speaker 6: And again, this was also a way he really he's

1247
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,839
Speaker 6: gonna grieve now, Okay, after this fight is when he's

1248
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 6: going to actually grieve and let it really soak in

1249
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 6: that his coach, his mentor one of his best friends

1250
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 6: is gone. And I don't think he could move forward

1251
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 6: without fighting this fight. That's why I feel that maybe

1252
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 6: sixty percent of that was him being able to just

1253
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 6: move on fight and move on and be able to

1254
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 6: kind of grieve the loss of Robert Follis and everything

1255
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:57,439
Speaker 6: he meant to him. And I tell you what, it's

1256
00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:59,839
Speaker 6: going to feel a heck of a lot better get

1257
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 6: a fantastic win like that to finish off of Saturday night,

1258
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:08,320
Speaker 6: and I wish Tim Elliott the best with that process.

1259
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 6: He will find a strength moving forward from this. And

1260
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 6: Tim Elliott has been one of the nicest guys that

1261
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 6: I've met. He's been over at Fox Studios and a

1262
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 6: huge guy for one hundred and twenty five pounds by

1263
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 6: the way. Yeah, but just really happy for him and

1264
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 6: I wish him the best in the future.

1265
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, started his Wake Cup for Demetrius Johnson back in

1266
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 5: the day at one hundred and sixty two pounds to

1267
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 5: get down to twenty five. But he is a great

1268
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 5: athlete and a motivated individual and certainly did his coach

1269
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 5: the ultimate honor over the weekend by getting the finish

1270
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 5: and ultimately the bonus. And of course we're naming our

1271
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 5: Cornerman of the Year Warred the Robert Fallis Cornerman of

1272
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 5: the Year Award and try to continue to keep his

1273
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 5: memory alive as best we can. And of course Fallas

1274
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 5: made sure every single one of those prelims on FS

1275
00:57:57,800 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 5: one wet the distance Kenny, but anyone you want to

1276
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 5: talk about out here, mikhal Olek Sagik, a winner over

1277
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 5: Khalil Roundtree, Junior, Miles jury Man.

1278
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 4: I mean when his head is right, I mean, this

1279
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 4: dude's a beast.

1280
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 5: Eight and two in the UFC, two and one at

1281
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 5: featherweight Marvin Vttori defeatso mariok Metov. That might be Italy's

1282
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 5: best hope for UFC glory. With respect to Alessiota Kurico,

1283
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 5: I think the Tory is the real deal. And then

1284
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 5: Matthews Nicolao, I think a dark horse at flyweight now

1285
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 5: that he's back with a win over Lewis Smolka, so

1286
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 5: Nico Lao, Vittori, jury Olek, Shaijuk who gets the love

1287
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 5: from the flow here Monday morning, Oh.

1288
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 4: Nikolau, I thought he looked very sharp out there.

1289
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, awesome, left hook was moving really well, just seemed

1290
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 6: to be in a nice flow when he was fighting,

1291
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 6: and just seems sharp all the way around. He seemed

1292
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 6: like an assassin in there. So I see a lot

1293
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 6: a lot of good promise in that kid.

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Speaker 5: Okay, last thing so next Monday, January eighth, Third Annual

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Speaker 5: AFPA Awards we just didn't come up.

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Speaker 4: With a better name. Folks, they're the Aftas. What are

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Speaker 4: you gonna do?

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Speaker 5: So here are the category it really does. Yeah, all right?

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Speaker 5: Categories Real Quick, Team of the Year, UFC, Rookie of

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Speaker 5: the Year, Breakout Star, Best in octagon post fight speech.

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Speaker 5: The Robert Fallis Cornerman of the Year award. Must be

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Speaker 5: a man, No, I'm just kidding. Of course it can

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Speaker 5: be a woman. Actually, Danielle Nickerson Platinum Princess, getting a

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Speaker 5: lot of folks right now, So Upset of the Year.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna call it the Cornerman of the Year award. Right,

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Speaker 5: there's still the Washington Redskins, I think right, they are

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Speaker 5: all right. Upset of the Year, Knockout of the Year,

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Speaker 5: Submission of the Year, Fight of the Year, the Adam

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Speaker 5: Snacks Gueller Male Fighter of the Year, the Inez Florian

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Speaker 5: Female Fighter.

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Speaker 4: No, I'm just kidding. No, we're not putting your mom's

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Speaker 4: name on it. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: And last, but certainly not least, hottest male fighter. The

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Speaker 5: most physically attractive male fighter to you, Kenny. So this

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Speaker 5: can just be the male fighter who is most physically

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Speaker 5: appealing to you. It doesn't have to be like the

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Speaker 5: hottest fighter on the roster, like last year, you went

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Speaker 5: with Luke Rockold.

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Speaker 4: Two years in a row. I think he's the the

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Speaker 4: two time winner. I think.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I went with Tyron Woodley last year because I

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Speaker 5: felt like, if your wife's that hot, you must be

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Speaker 5: doing something right in the looks department. So real quick,

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Speaker 5: I'm going to go through some of our winners from

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Speaker 5: twenty sixteen just so I can shout them out. But

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Speaker 5: if you want to nominate winners didn't do formal nominations

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Speaker 5: this year at Annik Florian pod on Twitter at John

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Speaker 5: Underscore Annik at Kenny Florian, if we're free, somebody submission, Well, yeah,

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Speaker 5: like Alexi O Lennok is banging all over ken Flow

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Speaker 5: on Twitter because he goes on UFC tonight and said

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Speaker 5: that his Ezekiel choke was not the submission of the year.

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Speaker 4: So Alexi's gonna probably get some love next week. I

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Speaker 4: don't know if he can supplant Demetrius Johnson's souplex into

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Speaker 4: Armlock necessarily, but all right, So nominations at Annik Florian

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Speaker 4: pod real quickly our twenty sixteen winners, just because I

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Speaker 4: thought it was interesting.

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Speaker 5: Your Team of the Year last Year was Team Alpha Male.

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Speaker 5: I had Jackson wink MMA. Last year, your Quarterman of

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01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:54,960
Speaker 5: the Year was Matt Hume. I had Justin Buckoles. Your

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Speaker 5: UFC Rookie of the Year was Lando an Adam. Mine

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Speaker 5: was Mickey goll Breakout Store of the Year. You had

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Speaker 5: co Garbrandt. I had step A Miacic. Post fight Interview

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Speaker 5: of the Year. You had Nate Diaz. I had the

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Speaker 5: Assassin Baby Brandon Moreno Day know what. Knockout of the

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Speaker 5: Year you had Joel Romero. I had Landovanatta. Submission of

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Speaker 5: the Year. You had Nate Diaz over Connor McGregor. I

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Speaker 5: had Ben Rothwell over at Josh Barnett. Fight of the

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Speaker 5: Year you had Diaz McGregor two. I had Swanson CHOI.

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Speaker 5: We went over most Attractive Male Fighter. Yes, it's a category.

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Speaker 5: Female Fighter of the Year. We both had Amanda Nunez

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Speaker 5: and the Snackscaler. Fighter of the Year you had Cody

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Speaker 5: Garbrandt and I had Michael BISPINGCK. So a lot has

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Speaker 5: changed this year. You're getting all of our awards next

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Speaker 5: week on the show. We also congratulate Casey Hinson. He

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Speaker 5: wins our Picticlar contest for the second straight year. Everyone

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Speaker 5: who finished above five hundred, you're gonna get something like

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Speaker 5: a canful autograph card. You're getting something they are.

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Speaker 4: I have one on my drawer right now. You can't

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Speaker 4: have that one, but you just wait, you just wait

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Speaker 4: twenty years. Man, that thing's gonna be bow to be

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Speaker 4: telling you through the roof too. It's like fucking bit

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Speaker 4: by that shit now.

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Speaker 5: So and in terms of the Pick to Click, we're

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Speaker 5: not bringing it back for twenty eighteen. We're gonna think

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Speaker 5: of a new concept to get the listeners involved. Main

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Speaker 5: event Challenge. We'll be back in a big way, of course,

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Speaker 5: coming up next week with the Saint Louis Picks. Thank

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Speaker 5: you to UFC Featherweight Champion Max Holloway, Thank you to

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Speaker 5: Ray Longo, to Janco, Ben Neil Foley, our whole team

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Speaker 5: at Fox Sports appreciate you coming in for us on

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Speaker 5: the holiday.

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Speaker 4: Ken Flow, Happy New Year.

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Speaker 6: Kid, dude, Happy New Year to you as well, and

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Speaker 6: to another amazing year of MMMO.

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Speaker 4: Man is is May Rocky BJJ closed on New Year's

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Speaker 4: Day or what we are? Closed?

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Speaker 5: We're back over on the third, kid. I want to

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Speaker 5: get in there and do some hip escapes. It's new

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Speaker 5: Year's Day. Let me get in there anytime.

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Speaker 6: But I want to see you eat that you know

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Speaker 6: that sandwich that vegem might sandwich.

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Speaker 5: First, that you get you all right, Australians, tell me

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Speaker 5: how to ease my pain. I'm gonna hold my nose,

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Speaker 5: but I need other ideas. All right, We got to

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Speaker 5: get out of here again. Thanks to everybody for listening.

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Speaker 5: We'll talk to everyone next Monday, after awards and preview

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Speaker 5: and picks for UFC Saint Louis that Jeremy Stevens versus

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Speaker 5: due ho Choy Sunday January fourteenth. Until then for the

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Speaker 5: flow on office at Fox Sports, John anixan so long

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Speaker 5: for now. Thank you all for listening to yo later.

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