1 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody, Welcome back to Packers unscripted. I am Mike 2 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: Spoffor joined alongside my trusted colleague Weston Hodkowitz. We're coming 3 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: to you hear from our studios at lambeau Field. We've 4 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 1: been away from these desks for a couple of weeks. 5 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: West some different things going on. Our producer Marvin was gone, 6 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 1: than I was gone. Now we are back. It's in 7 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: the midst of O t A Season here for the 8 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers, and actually this is Mini camp week, 9 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: the mandatory mini camp. So we'll do another show later 10 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: this week after a couple of the mini camp practices 11 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: and give our impressions of what we see out there 12 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: on the practice field. But to this point, two weeks 13 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: of O t a s are in the books. What 14 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: are your impressions of these spring practices to this point. Well, 15 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: first and foremost, I love when you mentioned, you know, 16 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: Marv was gone. He got to go to Jamaica. Yes, 17 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 1: your time, your time off is coming, You're time go 18 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: to Florida. And then I've just been here the entire time, 19 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: joined this wonderful spring we've been having in Wisconsin. Uh No, 20 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: but you know it was interesting. O t A s 21 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: are always uh, you know, there's there's little narratives you 22 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: can draw from, there's little nuggets of information that you 23 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: can glean. But this year is a little bit different 24 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: than maybe any o t I have ever covered, Mike 25 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: because of the amount of veterans that weren't here during 26 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 1: the first two that were open to the media. Historically, 27 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: I think that's been something where a lot there was 28 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: a lot of veteran turnout. The workout bonuses obviously are 29 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: predicated on that. But we're kind of in that space 30 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 1: right now after not after because I understand I don't 31 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: want to get people upset, you know, the COVID pandemic 32 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: all that still ongoing. But in terms of being able 33 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 1: to have a physical offseason program again, uh, there's certain 34 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: guys that have just wanted to train on their own 35 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: and will be in this town this week for mini camp. 36 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: So we've got to see a lot more younger players 37 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: and I think we've seen in the past. We've got 38 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: to see Jordan's love leading this offense once again and 39 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: really seeing how these rookies have been integrated a lot 40 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: faster into some of the first teamwork than what we've 41 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: seen in the past. So in that way, it's been 42 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: very interesting to see a lot of those young players 43 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: get opportunities that traditionally we might not have seen here 44 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: during the offseason program. Yeah, the thing that stood out 45 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: to me that that strikes me as a little bit 46 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: different from I guess you'd call it the pre covid 47 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: O t A S that that we used to cover 48 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: um in prior years. Is that so far, And we'll 49 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: see if it changes this week during minicamp, But so 50 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 1: far we haven't seen really seen much eleven on eleven 51 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: that is at full speed. Now, granted there are no 52 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: pads right now. Everybody is just in you know, shorts, 53 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: jerseys and helmets. There is no pads, so there's no 54 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: full contact. But they also aren't doing doing a whole 55 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: lot of the eleven on eleven at full speed. And 56 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: what I take away from that is is that Matt 57 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: Lafleur and the coaching staff have decided that these these 58 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: O t as this part of the off season has 59 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:04,399 Speaker 1: been for learning, not so much about competing, but it's 60 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 1: about learning. It's it's it's learning the playbook, learning the offense, 61 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,239 Speaker 1: trying to learn some of the nuances and whatnot. At 62 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: a slower speed, so that when you do get potentially 63 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 1: this week for a couple of days in mini camp, 64 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: but then even more importantly in training camp starting in 65 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: late July, when things are going full speed, the learning 66 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: the learning stages have gone at a little bit slower pace, 67 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: so that hopefully there's there's there's better retention, better understanding 68 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: of things for when they really want to move forward. Yeah, 69 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: it's a really sharp observation too, because I don't really 70 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: recall in the past, it almost seemed like the seven 71 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: on seven period was more competitive than the eleven on eleven. Uh. 72 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: The seven on sevens is where we've probably seen the 73 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: most uh the fastest, you know, play speed between the 74 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: receivers and the defensive backs, with the offensive lineman going 75 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: off and doing drills on their own, where the eleven 76 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: eleven eleven on eleven has been more and more of 77 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: a walk through type tempo or job tempo. So again, 78 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: Matt la Fleur will be the first one to say it. 79 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: I mean, there is only so much you can learn 80 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: from in terms of the competitive nature of this thing 81 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: by you know, making guys go out there without pads 82 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 1: and and just going through some of those emotions. But 83 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 1: that being said, it is about the retention of this 84 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: playbook and the fleur last week when he was talking 85 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: with the media. The thing that was interesting about that 86 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 1: second o t A is that was the first time 87 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: they were putting in installs that these guys had never 88 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: seen before the week before during that first o t 89 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: A open to the media. Well, that one was some 90 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: that something that they had already run through for the 91 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: majority of the rookies during the rookie minicamp, and then 92 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,679 Speaker 1: you're getting used to lining up in the formations and 93 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 1: and really like the first chapter in any kind of 94 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: history book or any type of textbook that you might 95 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: have in school. So it'll be interesting when we talked 96 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: to Matt Lafleur at the time in which we're taping 97 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 1: this tomorrow, uh and and hearing what he's going to 98 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 1: say exactly about how these guys took that information and 99 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: they ran with it, because it is there's a lot 100 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: of young guys on this football team. There's a lot 101 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: of new draft picks, there's a lot of you know, 102 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: undrafted free agents trying to make their mark, and it's 103 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: up to them to pick up that playbook as fast 104 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: as they can develop their own process for absorbing all 105 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: the information and putting it to practice. Yeah, it seems that, uh, 106 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: from what we've been hearing from Matt Lafleura and from 107 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: the coaches and whatnot, there's, uh, there's definitely an onus 108 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,359 Speaker 1: on the players at this time of year, especially the 109 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: young players that it's it's not just being there for 110 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 1: the meeting and doing what you can on the practice field, 111 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: but you do have to, you know, take that playbook home, 112 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: do some homework, whether you're at the apartment or at 113 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: at the hotel or wherever some of these guys are staying. 114 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: You know, there there's some homework assignments that go to 115 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 1: this if you want to if you want to keep 116 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 1: up on things and not not have the head swimming 117 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: every day when you get into a new meeting, and 118 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: then okay, here's a brand new offensive concept. All right, 119 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: you know, let's go. Well, if you don't have the 120 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: if you don't have the other stuff down, or at 121 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 1: least down to the to the point where where you 122 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 1: don't have a whole bunch of questions floating around in 123 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: your mind, then adding new stuff, um becomes all the 124 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: more difficult. And and every every guy learns that his 125 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: learns at his own pace, right, So so that's the 126 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: coaches are trying to get a feel for these young 127 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 1: guys what they can handle. And eventually those are the 128 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: types of things observations that that decide, Okay, what are 129 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: the reps we're gonna give this guy in training camp, 130 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 1: what packages? What personnel formations is he going to be 131 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 1: in because of what he's absorbed in, what he understands. 132 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: The incentive is there to try to absorb as much 133 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: as you can because that's going to lead to the 134 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: reps and the opportunities that you get later this summer. 135 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 1: And what was really the biggest question that people wanted 136 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: to ask during this offseason program, Well, Aaron Rodgers isn't 137 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: here right now? How is that affecting the young players? 138 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: And then obviously Jordan loved getting a chance to run 139 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 1: this offense with the starters once again as he did 140 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 1: last year. Rodgers wasn't present. So the one thing that 141 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: you brought up and we've talked a lot about, is 142 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 1: I personally, now that we've gotten a mini camp week, 143 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: now that Rogers is back in the building, uh, you know, 144 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: absent just a couple appearances here there, I actually think 145 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: this has been a great way for these young guys 146 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: to go about absorbing this thing, and not just the rookies, Mike. 147 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: I think that's one other thing people talked a lot about, 148 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: is this okay getting the rookies understand the playbook. It's 149 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: for a Marii Rodgers too. It's for you know, even 150 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: an aj Dillon, guys that are still new to this 151 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: thing in the grand scheme of things, being able to 152 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: really pick up not only the core principle of this, 153 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: you know, this academia that Matt Laflour is throwing at 154 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: these players, but also the changes that are going to 155 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: be implemented now that you don't have Vante Adams. Now 156 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: that you are going to have it's a new season 157 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: with new concepts and new take on things. That's why 158 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: I'm really excited to see, you know, getting potentially Rogers 159 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: back in the fold this week, seeing how he he 160 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:48,119 Speaker 1: mingles now with this offense where you've had young guys 161 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: now that I've had a month two months in this 162 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: playbook to really absorb what they're what they're trying to 163 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: put out on the field. Yeah, well Mini camp is 164 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: this week, so uh, what are you what are your 165 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: thoughts heading into this week. What are you gonna be 166 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: looking for out in the field. Obviously Aaron Rodgers is here, 167 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: other some other veteran players. I think we're gonna see 168 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: as far as what we've been able to see because 169 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: because the media has not had access to all of 170 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: the O t A practices, So I don't like to 171 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: declare who's been here and who hasn't because we don't 172 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: exactly know that in terms of every day of the week. 173 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: But I think we're going to get our first look 174 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: at Sammy Watkins potentially um out on out on the 175 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: practice field here in in the Packers unial reform, some 176 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: other veterans perhaps that that we haven't seen to this 177 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: point because this is the one mandatory week um of 178 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: of the off season. And uh and presumably we'll hear 179 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: from Aaron Rodgers after practice as well and see what 180 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: he has to and this is gonna be the funniest thing. Well, 181 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: it will be great to hear what Rogers has to say. 182 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 1: You know, we haven't actually sat down with him formally 183 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: and talk since anything has really happened this offseason, so 184 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: it'll be good to get his thoughts on, you know, 185 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: the the grand, big scheme of what the Packers are 186 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: going through. But the real story here is the Sammy 187 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: Watkins of the world that we haven't talked to yet, 188 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: him coming in in year nine, trying to show that 189 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: he still has a lot left to offer. A Packers 190 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: offense in in perimeter receiving game that has really nobody 191 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: set in a certain position. They could go a number 192 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,719 Speaker 1: of different ways with you know, the first guy in 193 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 1: the depth charts for the eighth guy in the depth chart. 194 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 1: Then you look at the defense, Mike Gyro Alexander is 195 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 1: going to be here, Where is he lining up with 196 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: this group? How are they deploying that Nickel package? As 197 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: much as Rogers drives, you know, so many headlines and 198 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: so much of the news around the Packers. We knew 199 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers was going to be here this year. It 200 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: wasn't like last year where there's so many questions. So 201 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: it's more about these veterans that we haven't seen before, 202 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: these guys potentially stepping into a new role. What do 203 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: they look like when you get out there for this 204 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: mini camp, because realistically, this is the closest you're gonna 205 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: get to training camp and not necessarily the padded stuff. 206 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: But in terms of getting into the playbook, being able 207 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: to get into the early installs, that that's personally what 208 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,239 Speaker 1: I'm gonna probably be looking at the most. You mentioned Alexander, 209 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 1: and I want to get back to him in just 210 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: a second, but I will take care of some sponsor 211 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: business here. 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The biggest 218 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: piece of news coming out of this building since we 219 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: signed off a few weeks ago, um from Unscripted for 220 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: a brief hiatus, is that Jayar Alexander has a new contract. 221 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: He will not be playing this season under the fifth 222 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 1: year option. He has a long term deal. He is 223 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: in the fold multiple years here for the Green Bay 224 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: Packers and something that it's a great thing for Jayar 225 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: Alexander and his family. Um, we saw some photos and whatnot. 226 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: He's certainly celebrated um with those closest to him. But also, 227 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: you know, creates a little extra cap space foo for 228 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: Green Bay because he his cap number now is not 229 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: that fifth year option number, but really about half of 230 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: that with the way the new contract with structure. But 231 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: and you mentioned it, how are the Packers going to 232 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: line up these uh, these top three cornerbacks when you're 233 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: talking about Jr, Alexander Russell, Douglas, Eric Stokes, the big question, Okay, 234 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 1: you know who's going to play Who's going to play 235 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: the slot? You know, we know the Packers are going 236 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: to have five defensive backs on the field quite a bit. 237 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: That's just life in the NFL these days. A couple 238 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: of weeks ago we heard from I guess is maybe 239 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: almost a month ago now, we heard from Jerry Gray, 240 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: the defensive backs coach, passing game coordinator on the defensive side, 241 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: and he was asked the whole question about who's going 242 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: to play the slot out of these top three cornerbacks 243 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: and whatnot. And he didn't say it in so many words, 244 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 1: but the impression I got from the answer that he 245 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 1: gave is the Packers are going to go about this 246 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: more with regard to matchups of which cover guy they 247 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: want to match up against a certain receiver, not who's 248 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: lining up where it's gonna be, like, hey, twenty three, 249 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: you've got him, twenty one, you've got him, and don't 250 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: worry about where they line up. Just worry about guarding 251 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: your guy. That's that's what I took away from how 252 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 1: Jerry Gray kind of danced around the whole question of 253 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: who's going to play the slot quote unquote, And you 254 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: know why you're right about that because you look last 255 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: year how the Packers utilized Kevin King. Kevin King had 256 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: never played the slot before in any like substantial snaps 257 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 1: during his time in Green Bay, he played both the 258 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: nickel and the dime. By the end of the season, 259 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: the inside positions. Uh. Jerry Gray even said it too. 260 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 1: If a guy can learn the outside, he's confident that 261 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 1: same player can learn the inside. He doesn't make many 262 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: qualms about Okay, well as this guy's situation fit the best, 263 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: that's not necessarily the case. Yes, Chandon Sullivan mostly played 264 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 1: that role the past few years, but I think when 265 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: you look at the makeup of and Alexander, of a Stokes, 266 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: of a Russeul Douglas, I think all those guys have 267 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 1: different attributes that lend themselves to play in that position. 268 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: The most intriguing thing to me is the fact that 269 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 1: the first time there was the thing. For his first 270 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:21,479 Speaker 1: four seasons in the National Football League, you've figured, Okay, 271 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 1: Alexander's probably on the left side of this defense. That's 272 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,839 Speaker 1: the position that they they've typically wanted to shut down. 273 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: That's where they're going to keep him. The idea of 274 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: job moving around more is the most intriguing thing. Will 275 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: he spell or shadow the top receiver every single week? 276 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,079 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's even going to be the case, 277 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: but the idea that you can't just kind of pigeonhole 278 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,719 Speaker 1: them to one spot, I think is going to make 279 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: this defense really dynamic. You look at why I think 280 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: Joe Barry was so successful in year one, whether it 281 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: was the cornerbacks, defensive line, linebackers, anywhere. He was very 282 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: multiple with how he used his players. He liked using 283 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: two inside backer formations with being able to play off 284 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: potential blitz packages. Off of that, He'd liked being able 285 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 1: to bring up a Kevin King and a dime package 286 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: late in the season and almost use him as a 287 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 1: pseudo inside backer. He was very creative with how he 288 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: used the personality his fingertips and with how deep this 289 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: group is this season. That to me is what is 290 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: the most exciting part. They brought back a lot of pieces. Yes, 291 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: they lost to Darius Smith. I'm not saying that that's 292 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: not a huge loss, but the amount of guys they 293 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: brought back, Mike, compared to where I thought things were 294 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: going to be at back in February, I'm blown away 295 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: by the possibilities of the secondary and really this entire defense. Yeah. Absolutely, 296 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: I mean we talked about this actually when the season, 297 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: when the season wrapped up last year, when we're talking 298 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: about the possibilities you know of can you can you 299 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: bring Rasul Douglas back? Like is he still going to 300 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: be around? And this essentially what will be the Packers 301 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: starting nickel secondary. Of the three corners were talking about 302 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: Alexander Stokes and Douglas put him in whatever order you 303 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: want to put him in, and then the two starting 304 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: safeties Adrian Amos and Darnell Savage. That's a nickel secondary 305 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: that is a top five in that group that that 306 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: rivals what the Packers had when Dom Caper's first came 307 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: in in two thousand nine and took over this defense 308 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: when he had Charles Woodson, Al Harris, Tremont Williams, Nick Collins, 309 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: and then you know the other safety it was supposed 310 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: to be Morgan Burnett, he got hurt as a rookie. 311 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: But then there was Charlie Pepper. There was a Tarry 312 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: big Bi in that mix. But that you you really 313 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: you have to go back that far in terms of 314 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: in terms of that one through five of a Nickel 315 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: secondary and the talent level, the depth of it UM 316 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: now where the Packers go with the depth at corner 317 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: and safety. Beyond that, there's some sorting out to do 318 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: their Keyshawn Nixon from the Raiders UM brought came over 319 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: kind of you know, familiar with with Rich Pisacci and 320 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: what UM and what he's done on special teams and 321 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: and he would appear to be potentially a big piece 322 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: of the special teams here in Green Bay. But he's 323 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: going to be part of the cornerback depth mix. And 324 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: you're and then you're looking at your looking at these 325 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: young safeties like like a Sean Davis or Trek Carpenter 326 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: who was who was just drafted. How the how the 327 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: depth beyond those top five gets sorted out, will definitely 328 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: be something to watch as the summer goes along. But 329 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: that group of five, that group of five is as 330 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: good as talented, as deep as the Packers have had 331 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: in a secondary in quite some time. You can't do 332 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: this thing on paper. Matt Lafleur said that as much 333 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: last week, but he did talk about on paper it 334 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: does look really good, not just the secondary, at all 335 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: three levels of this defense. You talk about, you know, 336 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: this secondary being as deep as it's been since that 337 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: oh nine teams. Same can be said for inside linebacker, 338 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: sam can be said for edge rush, or maybe even 339 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: more so that it isn't just based on you know, 340 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: Clay Matthews, there's another potential guy there with Preston Smith 341 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: and Rashawn Gary. The defensive front, like, this is the 342 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: best defensive line on paper during my ten years covering 343 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: this team, when you factor in that they finally added 344 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: a first round pick and then also being able to 345 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: get Jaron Reid in here too. Um, you have massive 346 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: defensive linemen that that are athletic, I mean, so you 347 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 1: have to play this thing out. I think really it 348 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: just comes down to what you mentioned. It's this can 349 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: you keep this unit healthy? And that was the problem 350 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: last year. Now, by the good graces of the football gods, 351 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: they were able to find Russell Douglas. If you don't 352 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 1: have Russeul Douglas, maybe the season goes in a different direction. 353 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: When you lose Jayre for literally the remainder of the 354 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: regular season. Isn't that just crazy? Though? I mean, I 355 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: don't mean to interrupt you, but no, we're when we're 356 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: looking at the landscape of things here and we're talking 357 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 1: about you know, this, this secondary and particularly this this 358 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: top three cornerback group of Alexander Douglas and and Stokes 359 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: and what the Packers are going to take in two 360 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: and you know, if Alexander doesn't get hurt, Russell Douglas 361 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: never puts on a Green Bay Packers uniform. And not 362 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: only that, now Douglas has a long term contract of 363 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: his zone to go with Alexander's new long term contract. 364 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 1: Now these guys are potentially going to be playing together 365 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: in that in the at that cornerback position for this 366 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: Packers defense for multiple years. And uh and they never 367 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: set foot on a field together until the playoff. And 368 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 1: it only happened. Yeah, and it was only the eight 369 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: snaps that Alexander played. It's just the way things can go, 370 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: the way things can change week to week, you know, 371 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 1: month to month, a year to year. It it always, 372 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: it always fascinates me because because last year, at this time, 373 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 1: we were having a completely different conversation about where the 374 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: Packers were with their cornerback position, who they had, and 375 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: then bringing in a first round draft pick and Eric 376 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: Stokes and you didn't quite know how he was going 377 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 1: to fit in. Now look where we are twelve months later. Well, 378 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: and I want to bring this step up to before 379 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: we move on when we talk about, you know, Brian 380 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: Goodkins hitting on his draft picks, when you talk about 381 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 1: him signing draft picks, I think one thing that's really 382 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 1: gotten overlooked is the quality of free agents he's signed 383 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: within those draft class is that aren't necessarily guys that 384 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: were breaking the bank. In the case I'll make for you, 385 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: as the two thousand sixteen draft, Deveandre Campbell, you add 386 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: him now in with Kenny Clark, with Dean Lowry. You 387 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 1: look at the seventeen draft for Seul Douglas now paired 388 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: up with Aaron Jonesen, You're you're looking at your Robert 389 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 1: Tonyans is a fifth year guy. Guy going into his 390 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,199 Speaker 1: fifth year now, Um, you know the year before that, 391 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 1: Alan Lazard is a fourth year player now. Along with 392 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: Gary and Savage, they've found ways to augment this roster 393 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: with really talented players that haven't committed fortune. So that's 394 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: the key. As much as it's important to have Aaron 395 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 1: Rodgers and and to have you know, Pro bowlers and 396 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 1: all pros and guys making plays all over the field, 397 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 1: you have to be able to find diamonds in the 398 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: rough to the roster's too big, there's too many players, 399 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 1: there's too many injuries. And that's one thing since Brian 400 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 1: Goodkin's took over in eighteen, he has been able to 401 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 1: identify those players with his personnel staff. Yeah. Absolutely, there's 402 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: no question about it. One other topic to touch on 403 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 1: before we let before we go today, because when we 404 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 1: left last time, it hadn't happened yet, and I'm talking 405 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 1: about the schedule release. Um. The schedule is out for 406 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: two week five is the game in London. UM, Packers 407 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: have are scheduled for five primetime games. Um. If I 408 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 1: were a betting man, I would say they'll be at 409 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: least one more that gets flexed into prime time to 410 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: make it six for us here in Ino. But the schedule, um, 411 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: what what were your what was your initial reaction? What 412 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,199 Speaker 1: were your first impressions when you saw it? Well, my 413 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: first initial reaction was I have a much different reaction 414 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 1: to this than Mattel Floor and Brian good couns. I 415 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 1: was thinking, this is not a very good schedule in 416 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: terms of how it lays out for the Packers. But 417 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: as it turns out, it seems like what Floor and 418 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 1: and Good counts in the organization are actually okay with it. 419 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 1: The Week fourteen, by to me, is a really, really, 420 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: really long time from the start of the regular season. 421 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: But I think the Packers really liked it last year 422 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 1: having Week thirteen and so um a year after having 423 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: the latest bye they've ever had, they found a way 424 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,959 Speaker 1: to actually make it even longer this year. And they're thinking, 425 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 1: is is that you know they play the Giants so 426 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 1: early in the season, they were just very cautious about 427 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 1: taking a bye that early. Now during an eighteen week season. Yeah, 428 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 1: with the with the London game being in Week five, 429 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: they were they were not in favor of taking the 430 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 1: bye immediately after the London trip because that would be 431 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: week six and then you have to get all the 432 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: way through week eighteen then without a break. And uh, 433 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 1: and so they did not request to have a bye 434 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: after London, and uh. What struck me about it not 435 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: only the the full bye week not being until week fourteen, 436 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,880 Speaker 1: but the Thursday night game, which is sort of your 437 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 1: quote unquote mini by because you play on a Thursday 438 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: night and everybody gets the weekend off. That's not until 439 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: week eleven. So when this regular sea and starts with 440 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 1: the London trip mixed in, the packers are playing ten 441 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 1: consecutive weeks, then the eleventh week being a short week 442 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: on a Thursday night, before you get any kind of 443 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: a break. But the plus side on the back end 444 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 1: of that is that you get the mini buy after 445 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: that Thursday night game, and then a few weeks later 446 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: you get your full by. You have two significant opportunities 447 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: for rest, recovery recuperation in the back half of the schedule. 448 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: As long as you can you know, both healthwise, position wise, 449 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: record wise, you can survive these first ten eleven games 450 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: before you get any kind of a break. If you 451 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,880 Speaker 1: get yourself in a good position there, then the rest, 452 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,919 Speaker 1: the recovery the potential health of the team can be 453 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 1: there for for the stretch run because because of the rest, 454 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: because of the rest being all pushed until later and 455 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: something else. I think that it's really, you know, kind 456 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: of stood out to me throughout this in higher process 457 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: is we know the injury rate with the NFL. Guys 458 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 1: get banged up, and if you can't avoid that at least, 459 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: it's very difficult to Yeah, you might as well take 460 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,360 Speaker 1: this thing on the back end of it and give 461 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 1: yourself the best chance as you get into December and 462 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: January to get healthy. I you know, I can't imagine 463 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: a scenario in which the Packers have any worse injury 464 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,959 Speaker 1: luck than what they had in one. I mean that 465 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 1: season in and of itself was right up there with 466 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 1: what they've had some bad ones, but I mean when 467 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: they had some awful look. So I mean that that 468 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: aspect of it is something that you hope history doesn't 469 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,679 Speaker 1: repeat itself and it will get better. There A c 470 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 1: l s were twice the number what the average is 471 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: in in a in a you know, a season. So 472 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 1: I think it's just that gauntlet to getting to December. Uh, 473 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: and it's going to take a lot of hard work. 474 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: It's going to take a lot of mental toughness, but 475 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: seventeen game regular season is going to be a daunting challenge, Mike. 476 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,040 Speaker 1: We've said it since the day that they added that 477 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: game to the schedule twenty weeks, as Mason Crosby was 478 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: even talking about last week. Even for a kicker there, 479 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: that's taxing. So it's gonna be, you know, a battle 480 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: of attrition, and the teams that are smart about it, 481 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: that can manage those waters the best, ultimately they're gonna 482 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 1: be the ones at the end of the season standing toll. Yeah. 483 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: Another another interesting element and we've seen this in the past, 484 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: although it wasn't the case last year when the Packers 485 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: opened with the game in Jacksonville against New Orleans. But 486 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: this year, you only have the six division games right 487 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: to each against the Bears, Vikings, and Lions. Well, weeks 488 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: one and two our division games, Weeks seventeen and eighteen 489 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 1: our division games. So four of your six division games 490 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 1: are you know, right out of the gate and then 491 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: right at the end, and then all those weeks in 492 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: between you only have two division games, um that are 493 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: that are spread out in there. It's just it's kind 494 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: of interesting it's interesting to me how that fell. But 495 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: we had talked about it before. With regard to the 496 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 1: opponents on the schedule. I mean, you're talking about going, 497 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: you know, going to Offalo hosting Tennessee on a Thursday night. 498 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,719 Speaker 1: You're playing um you know on packers knew they were 499 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: going to be going to Miami, but now they know 500 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 1: it's going to be on Christmas um down in in 501 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: South Florida. So just a lot of really interesting, a 502 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,479 Speaker 1: lot of interesting, you know, maybe borderline quirky things with 503 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 1: the with the way this schedule is. But now it's like, okay, 504 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: there it is. It's all laid out, and and all 505 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: Matt la Fleur cares about is week one against the Vikings, 506 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 1: and he's not even going to talk about anything else. 507 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: And and frankly, I don't blame him, no, And and 508 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: that wasn't just a line of bs. And he said, 509 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: he's like, I don't even really know who's on the 510 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 1: schedule for a week two. It really is to that 511 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: level of specificity. The other thing I'll say too, and 512 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: I understand it. We're still gonna get the questions. There's 513 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 1: no way to avoid it. But when you have seventeen 514 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 1: regular season games last year affirmed to me that I 515 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: don't want any valuable, established veteran playing in the preseason. 516 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 1: To me, Aaron Rodgers has played, you can play ten 517 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,439 Speaker 1: more years. I think he's played his last preseason snaps. 518 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: I agree, they're just valuable. And the people that come 519 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: out and say, well, what happens if New Orleans happens again, 520 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: then New Orleans happens again, Right, you can't And and 521 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: what did that? What did that? What did that blowout 522 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: lost to New Orleans mean? In the end, absolutely nothing. 523 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: The Packers got the number one seed in the NFC, 524 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: So if they had won, if they had won that game, 525 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: or if they had lost a close one against New Orleans, 526 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 1: it ended up having zero, zilch, no impact on the 527 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: season whatsoever. Now, again, it's different this year because you're 528 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: opening with a division opponement, right, so there's a little 529 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: bit there's a little bit different feel in that regard. 530 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 1: But I am told, but I am totally with you. 531 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: It's a seventeen game season. This thing, this thing is 532 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 1: an absolute marathon. And and uh, I mean I I 533 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 1: sort of felt, you know you mentioned earlier. I felt 534 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,719 Speaker 1: from the day that Jordy Nelson tore his a c 535 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 1: L in Pittsburgh in a preseason game, that that would 536 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: be the last time that would be the last time 537 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: that something that that the Packers would play their starters 538 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 1: for any sort of significant tie in the preseason. It 539 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 1: is simply not worth it anymore, Jordy Nelson. Absolutely. You know, 540 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 1: the other guy doesn't get enough credit for this. Desmond 541 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: Bishop changed the entire complexion of that young man's career 542 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: absolutely twelve. Who knows what Desen Bishop would have accomplished 543 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 1: for the next three or four years if he doesn't 544 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 1: tear his hamstring basically off the bone out in San 545 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: Diego in in a in a preseason game. Yeah, to me, 546 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: it's not worth it. Week one, week two, week three, whatever. 547 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 1: People want to win a super Bowl, Let's win a 548 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 1: super Bowl. I'm not I'm not very concerned about being 549 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: the champions of the September, you know. So that's just me. 550 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: I hear you, I hear you. Well. We will be 551 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: back in a couple of days to talk about our 552 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: observations from Mini Camp, but for now we'll call it 553 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 1: a wrap on this edition of Packers on Script and 554 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 1: be sure to follow all of our coverage of the 555 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 1: team all week long. The rest of the off season, 556 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 1: we got all kinds of stuff for you on packers 557 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 1: dot com for West, I'm Mike, Thank you for tuning 558 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: in everybody to see you next time.